Advanced Spiritual Tools for Psychic Children and People with Tina Erwin

Katische welcomes back guest Tina Erwin for the fourth time to delve into transformative spiritual practices including advanced visualizations to raise frequencies and protect against negative energies. 

Key techniques discussed are:

• the pink rose petal visualization, 
• the salty rain visualization, 
• the soul train
• and the Archangel Triangle of Force. 

• Tina’s deep knowledge in metaphysics and practical methods for spiritual protection provide listeners with tools to address paranormal encounters, enhance their spiritual practices, and improve emotional well-being. 
• Additionally, they touch on the impact of energetics in various environments like hospitals, prisons, and everyday life. The episode encourages feedback from listeners to see how these practices positively impact their lives.

Chapter Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to The Infinite Life Podcast
00:43 Important Safety Announcement
01:59 Welcoming Tina Erwin
03:25 Tina Erwin's Background and Mission
05:11 Discussing Tina's Latest Book
06:53 Advanced Spiritual Toolbox
10:48 The Soul Train Visualization
20:58 Pink Rose Petal Rain Visualization
30:56 Salty Rain Visualization
33:46 The Power of Salt in Cleansing
35:03 Visualizing Protection for Your Space
37:59 Humorous Reactions from Spirit Guides
40:15 The Archangel Triangle of Force
45:02 Combining Techniques for Healing
54:36 Using Visualization in Prisons
01:04:13 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Tina Erwin

Tina is passionate about being a "Ghost Helper." Her mission is to teach the living how to help the dead. She wants to empower everyone to help any ghost they may find. Tina says that this is the compassion we will all want for ourselves. She urges everyone to use The Crossing Over Prayer™ on GhostHelpers.com and in “The Crossing Over Prayer Book©”
Tina has studied metaphysics all of her life, gaining insight into yhe mystical world of magic and spirituality. She is the author of 9 [nine] books on metaphysics. Her writing comes from an intense desire to know and unders

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Transcript

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Welcome to the infinite life with Katische Haberfield. I'd like to take you on a transformative journey, exploring the mysteries of the soul. I hope you enjoy the regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions that I've had with guests on the podcast. I hope that these answer some of the questions that you might have about life on this planet, on others, and in other dimensions. Thank you for joining me and please don't forget to like and subscribe and Most importantly, share with your friends. Namaste. Welcome back to The Infinite Life with Katische Haberfield. I'm your host, Katische Haberfield, and this week I have a very important announcement before we get into the episode. Please do not listen to this episode if you are driving. Operating machinery or doing something that needs your concentration. This is because in this discussion with our repeat guest, Tina Erwin, we will be doing some very special, things that come into her toolkit that require you to be seated in a safe location that is quiet, where you can completely put aside the rest of the world for the moment. Press pause on this episode, whether you're listening to it on a podcast player or you're watching it on YouTube, and make sure that you are comfortable, that you've got your phone, off and you have no distractions. Okay? So go do that and then come back. And so for the rest of you who have now come back, we are very blessed to have Tina Erwin with us, and this is her fourth time on the Infinite Life Podcast. And I had to look back on my notes because I wanted to see exactly, I say this every time I say it to you now, but I wanted to see how far ago it was that you came on the podcast and it was back in 2021 was the first episode. So it feels like a long time ago now, even though it's really not that far ago, but in my life, it's a long time. And then we had a double. Massive split episodes part one and part two on psychic protection in 2023. So the first episode that you can go back to is very foundational to this episode. It's how to cross ghosts over and is based on the first, Tina's written nine books, but it's based on A bunch of Tina's books that are all about ghosts. And then the follow up episodes, part two, one and two in 2023 are all about psychic protection. We talk about a whole myriad of tools that you can use. So it's very much two episodes that you need a notebook and a pen for. And so today. I'll just reintroduce Tina with her profile from Podmatch because I know this all, but new listeners won't. So here we go. Tina Erwin is a ghost helper, and I'm going to put in, and an author, and many other things, but she's famous for being a ghost helper. She's passionate about this. Her mission is to teach the living how to help the dead. She wants to empower everyone to help any ghost they may find. Tina says that this is the compassion we will all want for ourselves. She urges everyone to use the crossing over prayer on ghosthelpers. com and in the crossing over prayer book. Tina has studied metaphysics all of her life, gaining insight into the mystical world of magic and spirituality. She is the author of nine books on metaphysics. Her writing comes from an intense desire to know and understand the hard science behind the unseen world of action and reaction, combined with a sincere desire to share this understanding with other knowledge seekers. Ghosts just seem to find Tina. It's as if she's a ghost magnet. In every single case, Tina says that these ghosts are all looking for help, and they tell her why they didn't cross over. They tell her stories. She assists these souls by crossing them into the heaven world. When a psychic only connects to a dead person, the ghost does not receive the critical assistance they desperately need. Her lifelong studies into the deeper meaning of events and actions were further enhanced by the experiences of a dynamic 20 year career in the Navy. Working for the U S submarine force, retiring at the commander level, commander Erwin found the Navy to be a tremendous schoolhouse in which to study all the facets of her of behavior and karma from the worst to the finest levels of humanity. She has a master's degree in business and management. You can find all of her books on amazon. com. And you can learn more about Tina at tinaerwin. com and ghosthelpers. com. Tina, welcome back to the podcast and we're here to discuss your latest book, Psychic Children, Psychic People, The Key to Protecting and Understanding Intuitives. I'm so excited. I really, book was a culmination of a lot of years and a lot of families I'm desperate and then endlessly writing hurriedly writing down all these tools I'm giving them and then telling me, oh, I wish you had a book out about this. And a book like this is very difficult to write because you're writing for a family that can't spell metaphysics or this is new for them to people who are experienced in the psychic world and you're trying to appeal to people on all levels and some people this was going to be two books but I combined it into one because if you only bought the first part and you never got to the second part you'd be missing out so it took an extra year. To combine them and nine months just to edit this. This was massively edited. So yes, it is a, it's a labor of love because it's a service to families and to intuitives all over the world who might just like a few extra tools in their back pocket and to understand things that are happening around them. So that's the motivation to get this out there. And I've seen you out on other podcasts at the moment. Helping spread the message on the book. So I wanted to say to people that look out for all the different podcasts that Tina is appearing on. You can find a lot of them on YouTube and on various podcast players. And because we've had you a couple of times on the show what really spoke to me was, as you said, the second half of the book and in particular from chapter 40 onwards, which is the advanced. spiritual toolbox. So can we chat a little bit first of all before we get into the details on there as to why you felt an advanced spiritual toolbox was so important to include for people who were picking up this book and maybe some examples of how you might have use some of these advanced tools. There's quite a lot of them. They go up to, you categorize them by levels, 27 levels of advanced tools here. So pick your favorite one. And why so many, they're fabulous. And that's why we're going to go through a couple of them in detail, but why that chapter? That chapter is specifically designed to take people to another level, if you actually made it to chapter 40, and you weren't totally overwhelmed, then you might be the person who's really going to use a lot of these, for instance, my daughter travels, and my daughter's 40, and she travels constantly, she's always on an airplane, and she clears that plane every single time, and I've actually had two or three planes While I'm clearing them, find a fault and turn around and go back to the jetway. I've had people tell me that they're worried about school shootings. So that's why the section on how can you protect a school if what are the rules? How can you protect a school and your child going there? What are some super simple things you can do To protect a child if you're not with them, or if you're driving in a car, how can you protect your car? Everyone wants to feel safe in their body, in their dwelling, in their home. And it all goes back to frequency. And these tools in Chapter 40 are really designed to really heavily ratchet up the frequency of a location. do these things myself. Some things were, are, have been around metaphysics for a really long time. Some things are new for me that were given to me by the spiritual team that manages me as I'm just somebody's field agent, shall we say help on the path. And the more individuals. Raise the frequency of their location, or their car, or the airplane they're in, or the business meeting they're in. You're bringing the weird airy fairy metaphysics down to an extremely practical level. You have to remember to do them, but if you build a habit, might be quite surprised at how things change. Those are, that's the motivation. The motivation is always service to as many people as humanly possible. So that we have a peaceful, happier world. Yeah perfect, And you mentioned that some of these are new. Which ones are new to you? That are new as far as the metaphysical world hasn't been, hasn't talked about them. I've used these with clients for a long time. For Soul brain. Yes, yep. And I have many clients with children find that the soul train just works like a charm. It's amazing that for children, starting with age from about age seven on this particular spiritual practice works so well a child who's been bombarded by ghosts in their room. Or when they go to school or when they see these things, all of a sudden that child now is in a power position, not delusions of grander power, but instead of feeling inundated, they now can do something what they see. They know they're not crazy. They see that. Those ghosts board that train they can see those angels. So you have some really, psychic children and you have some including teenagers and then adults. I've had adults use this because it's very simple. It's a super simple visualization. And unless you've been doing some of these practices for a lot of time, most people are pretty literal. If you can give them something specific, tangible visually, they can do it. The whole point is to enable a practice. A spiritual practice to be achievable over the long haul. So that's, the soul train is an example of one of those things. Okay. All right. Great. So yes, you can, if you grab a copy of the book it's on page 352. And you, do you recommend that the parents just read it out loud and sit down with their child and to get them to be seated and visualize it with them? How do you approach it for somebody who's doing this for the first time? I would, start by telling your child that you believe them. That something is happening. And even though you as the parent may not be able to see it, you believe in your child because your child is demonstrating behavior that shows that there's a problem. So instead of saying, you must have imagined it, or let's make believe. back up a little bit. What if this child's really seeing this? You have to recognize that normal just left the building. Now you're in a whole new ball game. So tell your child you believe them and that you found a toolbook to help them. And we're going to do this together for the first time. we're going to talk about it. And you're going to explain that there's this cool way to help these ghosts. Take it down to the age level of the child as you're explaining it. You can read it in the book too, but if you explain that we want to help these ghosts and I want to help you to help them. So we're going to visualize a train and maybe the parent shows a picture of a train or maybe it's tell me the train. Or the little engine that could if it's a really small child, eventually, you can have a child draw it. I have 1 client in Texas and her 10 year old child drew the entire soul train. This is what she sees now she drew it and she had angels in it. she put it, facing her bed and she sees it and she see them and she tells them it has three or four cars, for children and a cars for different people who are adults. And when the train gets really full, she can add more cars she make the cars beautiful colors. Make it real, make it specific. Then when you do that, you have the child invite angels to the room. You can also have angelic icons, pictures, or little statues and garden places, so all kinds of little statues. They don't have to be religious, but they're peaceful. And then, because some children may also see the ghosts of animals. I remember seeing my neighbor's dog who died. I see the dog wandering the street completely confused. And there's new video who videoed a ghost horse. Can't make this up. So you can invite even the ghosts of animals on the train. And then you, as the parent and the child together, the angel to please take these ghosts to the heaven world. You're crossing over the ghosts to the heaven world, the train leaves every night, and then you say goodbye to the train, and then you can go to sleep. I complicated it a little bit by explaining it, but if you do it every night, it's really simple. Did you call the Soul Train? I did. And then if your parent might say, how many tonight? Oh, there's just two people tonight. It's not a cast of thousands. Might just be one or two. You picked them up at the mall. Or the grocery store. You never know. Grocery stores, I don't know about Australia, but here, grocery stores are full of alcohol. No, we don't have it. I'm not in my state anyway. It's not allowed to be sold in the supermarket. It's entire aisles of alcohol. Higher than even I can reach. So you'll see a lot of either homeless or ghosts or drunken ghosts in grocery stores. Or if you went by past a bar, bars are always haunted. So your child's picking these things up, not because they want to, but because it's just what happens sometimes. I've used this myself, obviously, a long time ago, but with a client of mine, and we used it to put her ancestors in, her there were ancestors who needed to get on that soul train yeah, I adults can use it, ah, As well, but I was thinking just now how particularly useful this would be if you've got a child who's in hospital. A really good place if they are confronted we've talked on the other episodes about the crossing over prayer and giving it to hospitals and being aware of the fact of ghosts in hospitals. I was recently sitting with a friend for a day. And she was in a critical care unit and getting some plasma and she didn't like it at all. Because many things that we've discussed in other episodes about being, feeling like she actually had other people with her. And I was sitting with her and Yeah I, she watched me as I felt, because I, don't always see, but I feel them always. And I said to her, I felt immediately, and I got really, started to get emotional, and I, and she looked at me, and I said, Veronica, I, sorry, I hope you don't mind, but I've just gotta cross somebody over right here. And then so I crossed that porcelain over and my body just does this physical, energetic reaction. Like you can see it, I can't even help it. But when the energy is moved, my body shudders. And that's the first time I think, like I've done remote clearing for her in her house. But that's the first time I think that she actually believed me, that I could do it. Because I was sitting there, we were talking about nail polish of all things, I was buying a Christmas present for my mom. And she was having a transfusion she's, been ill for a long time, but we're in a ward of cancer patients, and I knew that this person had died of cancer, and, but I crossed them to light, and I was just thinking about how there's lots of people who do go into hospitals, but especially children, who could, that could be a very easy thing that they can do just quietly if you've already taught them about it, you can bring in a book with a picture of a train, and they can do it while they're in hospital if that's what they're they're encountering. So it's a, fabulous tool I think for, anybody. And I think that it takes away the fear for them because they're not coming close to you and they can see that there are other people boarding this train and they can hop on it. Is that how you would also explain it? It's you don't have to come and interact with me physically. Here's a whole service for you. You're redirecting them Yeah. because you don't ever want to be in resonance with these ghosts, You to redirect them. You're putting yourself in a position of, protection and it's protection for, you or your child and it's service hospitals are just a tough place. Police stations. You have to go to a police station for some reason, courthouses, you just never quite know or if you, I don't know if they do this in Australia, but here they put crosses on the side of the road where someone has had an accident and they die and I, clear those every, time I pass them. So you pick them up and you don't even realize it. It's not a bad thing. It's just a fact of life. And we, the goal is to handle this matter of factly without an emotion where you have the tools, you know what to do. You take care of it. You move on with your day. It's not dramatic. It's, and if you are level and calm with your, with the people around you and with your children, they're going to handle it in a much more comfortable, dispassionate way. And that's really helpful For children. Perfect. Okay. I was wondering if we could Actually, if you could walk us through the pink rose petal rain visualisation, because that one is just such a beautiful visualisation, and I thought that who better to do that than for you to talk us through, so to get us into a state where we could actually do that visualisation. I know it just seems so simple, but I thought if somebody hears you explain the process and they're listening to this now, they could just stop and do that. and do that for the room that they're in or the house that they're in. So do you want to explain the concept of the, pink rose petal rain visualization first and then take us through it? Yes, I'd be delighted to. This actually came from my brother, who worked for the Screen Actors Guild in downtown Hollywood. And everyone is always fighting over something when, and with that organization, and so he developed this. I'm always trying to make sure I give credit where it's it wasn't original with me, you need to know that. And it goes like this. Let's say you're in a contentious room. It can be a city council, a school board meeting, it can be, a holiday with very contentious relatives. You can't control any anybody else. You can only control yourself. So if you look at your surroundings and you just you can some people can do it with their eyes open. Some people really want to have their eyes closed. It's achingly simple. You simply visualize that the most glorious. rose petals are falling from the heaven world and piling up in the room you're in. And they have this subtle magical fragrance because these massive roses, massive rose petals, rose is the highest frequency. It's higher than frankincense. So the frequency of rose oil is super, super high. without having to do anything really special, you can raise the frequency of the room, which reduces conflict. I was actually in a car with youngest son and for some reason he was really angry about something and he seemed to be getting angrier and angrier. So I the car with pink rose petals and, invited some angels in along the way. And everything changed. It was amazing. He said, I know you did something. And I said, yes, I did. We're driving. We need to be very safe. So you bring these rose petals in. You can also invite beautiful archangels to come in and create a circle around the group. They don't, you're not asking them to do anything. You're simply asking that angels be present. Anyone can do that. And a lot of people will say to me, Oh, I don't want to impose on those angels. They're. They're busy. I, they couldn't be bothered with what I need. Girlfriend, let me tell you, they can impose on your angels because angels earn karma in the process of helping mortal people. We have to ask for them. They're not going to interfere with free will. if you filled the room with these beautiful rose petals and this subtle fragrance. seems to slip around everywhere. And then you bring in angels and you just sit back and watch what happens. It's one of the coolest experiments you could possibly do. The problem is you have to remember to use it in various situations. That's, but as you become more familiar with these things, that will become of you. It will live within you. That's the hope with spiritual practices. You can have them live within you. And if it's not your building or your meeting, if people are becoming contentious and here we have Thanksgiving in November and the somebody always ends up dead and Thanksgiving because some relative angry because they're not part of each other's day to day rhythm of life. And so you have these conflicts. But if you were to fill it with pink rose petals. And you can imagine in your mind this subtle fragrance that's interpenetrating the auric field of all the players. Now think about that. What are we really doing? We're bringing in something that's soft and delicate, non combative, gentle, with a super high frequency. And it's filling the room like it's just like millions and millions of rose petals. We're not just doing a little sprinkling here. It's a lot. And those rose petals are impacting the auric field of all of the residents in the room. And then the angels are in the room and they glow, they emit a frequency of loving kindness. And that's impacting your auric field as well. So you have physicality in the other dimension of the rose petals and the fragrance, the presence of the angels and the power that they're emitting. Now you begin to understand the full dynamic of that rose practice. It's a spiritual practice. It's called a practice because you're doing it over and over. You get better and more sophisticated at it. Does that help? Perfect. Yes. And I was thinking, so for those of you who do happen to have a diffuser and have essential oils rose oil is an expensive investment, but Hey if it means Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter, you have a peaceful lovely time with your family, dab it behind your ears and put it in your diffuser. I guess also What they could do Tina would be to, you, if you have a TV in your room, that's connected to YouTube, you could add to the sensory stimulation by we can get lots of nature channels that have like row pictures of roses and things. So then you could visualize in your mind, maybe roses. Picking up any ghosts or anything that if you've got lots of drinking relatives that the ghosts come around the drinking relatives, do you think that would work putting the, inviting them to use like a, The roses aren't going to help the drinking relatives, oh, okay. but what it could do, this is a worthy experiment, because we're always experimenting in metaphysics. We're always learning and trying new things. If you did that experiment, though, that person may not want to drink as much. For some reason, they, that need isn't quite there in that moment and they can't explain it. They feel differently. They're almost disconcerted. They feel different. They feel different than they look around and they don't know why. And you haven't harmed anyone. The first rule is to do no harm. You've simply shifted that frequency a little bit. Just enough. And the other thing you can do is if you have rose oil, you can put it on your wrists here here because your left hand energy is entering, your right hand energy is leaving. So if you're shaking hands with someone, that energy is leaving you. You want that energy to be a high frequency. You can also put that rose oil you can blend it with frankincense and myrrh. Myrrh has a tendency to turbocharge whatever it's with on your solar plexus. So that you're whatever you're connected to, because we are connected to everybody you're going to hug people. So now you're reestablishing the connection or you're shaking hands with someone, giving them a little hug or the kiss on each cheek what a European thing American thing too. So connecting to people all the time. People are going through things. Death or divorce or their relative is, in crisis or life is happening all around us. Everybody's grieving something. So if the moment's there with you, there's a lightness and they feel a little bit better for a short period of time. is a really sweet service. Yep. Yep. And we all we, all have that relative that has that one too many drink. And if you visualize that and you're wearing the rose and they just don't reach for that extra glass you can ask them to not drink if they don't reach for that fifth glass of wine and they don't stumble over and fall down the path or whatever they usually do, or say something ridiculous, then that's, that makes the whole experience so much nicer for everybody. It does. Drinking is so prevalent right now, and I'm not going to sit here and be judgmental. It's what happens, but it's something that we can deal with maybe in a subtle, gentle way that keeps things in a really peaceful place. Beautiful, thank you. And so I like the salty rain visualisation too. I, I find this one a very easy one. Can you talk this one through for people who've never heard of a salty rain visualisation? Yep. use it and she was, she wanted me to be achingly Specific. And when we were editing the book, my sister said she's going to want you to be specific. So I did try to be specific in the salty rain visualization. Let's look at a tiny bit of background salt, sodium chloride works in every dimension. If it were not for the salty seas that surround the planet, we would have fallen into a pit of darkness a long time ago. The body can't function without salt. Salt helps us conduct electricity. salt is a critically important element for the human body, but I discovered that salt works in every dimension and that if I'm working in another dimension and I have a being who presents himself as this great, mighty, whatever, then I stumbled on this. I started visualizing that salt is instead of raining water, it's actually raining water. It rains salt. And if you can visualize and say the words, a 22 percent salt solution, it's really salty. If you're a divine being, you're fine. Salt's awesome. If you are a detrimental being, you will be destroyed. They will vanish. one of the best ways to perform due diligence. If you have to work on the other side, if you're not worried about working on the other side, and you just want to cleanse your home or your car or your office space, or even your just your little cubicle, you can visualize that in the old fashioned cartoons, there would be a cloud that would come over the. Person and it would just rain on just that person. That's your visualization. You're looking at this cloud of salt down on someone and something. And you can have it pour down and that can be on yourself. Let's say that you have to go to a place that's a really toxic place. you're, a person who has to work with some dark places. Some of the homeless encampments are really dark places and they're, they're truly sad places. You can visualize the salty rain coming down upon yourself as you're moving. I'd also use that triangle of force practice, which is really effective. But if you didn't remember that one, just remember, you're just being bathed in salt all the time. It's just salt all over you, salt in your car, and it's not going to harm you. It cleanses your auric field, your force field that little cool. beyond you and if you can get to the point, you're really good at visualizing that this rain is just coming down and coming down. You may say, where is it going? The salt dissipates in the ether because it's not harming the ether or the 4th dimension and you can then graduate to from your room or yourself to your entire property. And when you're doing visualization, it takes practice. Many people say I can't visualize it. That's what daydreaming is. You're actually visualizing something else. We've all done it. don't think you can be a mortal person and not know how to daydream or visualize something. Of course, you're asking your husband to do that when you go to the store, visualize that there's this package sitting on. anyway, if you're doing your house, you're visualizing that this salty rain is pouring down on the exact perimeter of the property that you own or rent. Not anybody else's property. If you happen to be in an apartment or a condominium, then you're visualizing that this rain is in just the space you occupy. But let's say I have 5. 7 acres up here in Washington State. So when I bring down that salty rain, it comes down on everything. And it's especially helpful until they're able to stop the chemtrails. So it comes down and it cleanses the etheric structure. And that means that all these fabulous old growth trees are cleansed, and the animals in the forest are cleansed, and the negative thoughts that may have wafted around a location, they can be cleansed, at least for a little while. Look at it this way. You bathe every day, or every other day, or whatever your You wash your hands, you wash your dishes. When you use salt, and many places use salt to wash things, you are washing the etheric structure of a location. And that's a really new concept. people think, oh, I have to protect myself. I'd like to protect the entire property. I can also bring that salty rain on the street that runs in front of my property. it's, or the street that runs, Any street that's public access you pay taxes for. So if you're in a courthouse, you can bring a salty rain in the courthouse because it's a public property. You can do that. So you're bringing this cleansing energy and it cleans a lot of the old emotion. So you're in a hospital room, bring a salty rain. You're, sitting in a chair and you visualize that the floor walls inside those four walls, this salty rain is coming down. If you're concerned where all that debris is going, you can ask an angel to take it to the higher realms. So you're neat about it. So does that help? Yep. No that's, beautiful. Yep. And if people are thinking, Oh, how am I going to remember these things? Then do what I do and just put a note in your iPhone. And so it says pink rose pedal visualization or salty rain visualization. And then if you're out somewhere that just reminds you, Oh, I feel this bad energy. Let me remember salty rain. I can do it. Imagine. Imagine it. And it's also, it's great one because. In my past life regression sessions and all the different sessions that I do I do teach all my clients how do I, to throw salt at the spirit guides to identify whether they are who they say they are. And they find it so hilarious because when you are working with real entities that are from the light, they have the funniest reaction. They think it is hilarious. do! They think it's hilarious. And they're a little bit grateful that you performed due diligence. You were savvy. I think that's really outstanding. Yeah, and you can have a look at some of the videos on the podcast where we've actually done that live on the live recorded sessions of past life regressions, especially in the healers path session we, did some three sessions for people who were in healing professions and the, The number of ghosts that came out of those sessions was just mind boggling. But at the start of it we did, I did teach them to meet their spirit guides and then to throw the salt on them. And they were in tears of laughter with that reaction from their spirit guide. And it changes every time. It's really delightful to watch the I can see it watch the reaction of the client and then of the spirit guide they'll put up an umbrella and they'll shake and they'll do a dance and laugh and or they'll wag their finger and just have this ridiculous laugh on their face. And it's really quite Sweet. yeah please try that next time you're connecting. With anything on it, anyone, if you feel an energy coming towards you in a meditation or anything, just I even say to someone visualize you have an old Italian Nana who used to have a salt pot on her bench when she was cooking, just, Visualize that, get the little spoon out and throw it at them, and that's that's how people, they, everyone's had a nana who had a little salt pot on their cooking bench, so that's like easier than thinking about the big sacks of salt or whatever it is. Don't make it complicated, just get nana's salt and throw it at them. Yeah, I like, yeah, I like that one. Okay, You just spoke, and I just want to come back to that one the Archangel Triangle of Force Visualization. I don't think many people will have heard about this one. Can you give us an example of where somebody would, when somebody would need this and how they would use it? I used to be a basket case in hospitals. It's shoot me now. Just don't, please don't make me walk in the door because they come at you like this cloud and you're overwhelmed. And I was in a situation where one of my brothers had to go into a hospital. We were, we had gone to Bryce Canyon and we were outside Las Vegas and he became very sick and we had to go. My other brother was with me and he said, you're really good at this, you need to figure it out, for help and they'll tell you what to do. And so I did figure it out and I realized when you study sacred geometry, and I have a tetrahedron here when you study sacred geometry, you have a you have a pyramid shape. Has four sides and a base, but a tetrahedron is three sides and a base, so I want to make sure that I make this as visible for your listeners as possible, because it's not a pyramid, it is in fact tetra meaning three sided, it's made out of crystal, and it's crystal clear, and you are inside it, and it moves with you wherever you go. And you are visualizing that you're inside. This is a, I call it a triangle of force. It's technically a tetrahedron, if you can't visualize something this sophisticated, that's okay. You can visualize that you're inside a triangle. You can visualize that you've got an archangel at each point of the triangle. And as you're moving. Let's say that you're inside this triangle that's moving. You've got an archangel that's, greeting every ghost in front of you, and you've got an angel on either at your back. So in other words, I have an angel in front of me, and I've got two angels at my back. On the three points, I'm inside a sacred geometric shape, a triangle. It's one of the most powerful sacred geometry shapes. ever. A lot of amazing shapes, but that's a really powerful one. It's one of the platonic solids. When you understand that, and you are visualizing that you're inside this triangle, the angel, you're asking the angels as a practice of protection and service, it's twofold, cross over every ghost that comes toward you. And any ghosts that are coming from behind, the archangels that have your back, are there for you. And they handle those ghosts. And you visualize this, that you're moving in this triangle. Maybe that sounds like a sophisticated level of visualization, but it's worth a try if you have to draw it on a piece of paper so that you can have a visualization of it can make a really big difference if you have to go into a negative place. Even if you're remote viewing, and a lot of people remote view, put yourself in a crystal triangle of force and visualize this cool little guy. inside there these dark beings cannot penetrate that triangle. Wink, wink. It's really powerful. So if you're inside of it and you're working in another dimension, if you're sophisticated enough to remote view and work in another dimension, you are savvy enough to use that triangle of force. And someone said why didn't you just want to keep it secret? How are you helping people? If you keep it a secret, you share it. And then those people are protected or a super psychic mom has to be in a hospital with her child. She can have protection. She can bring a salty rain on her child. She can put her child in a triangle of force. So she can make a huge, difference. Speaking of hospitals, let's just take a second and put some of these together. Let's say that you have a loved one going into the hospital for surgery. All right, you could fill the surgery theater with pink rose petals and angels, so that there is peace and calming. Everybody's got stress. Maybe the surgeon had a, an argument with his wife. Maybe the anesthesiologist is, about to divorce her husband. Who knows that your problem, but it's going to influence the patient. if you fill that with, pink rose petals, you could cleanse it. With the salty rain, you fill it with pink rose petals, and then you visualize the whole thing is in a triangle of force. So nothing else can come in. There's no other interference. If you get really sophisticated at using these practices, then you can start to create layers of how you use them. It's a little bit more advanced, but do you see where I'm going with Yeah, no, I understand where you're going for that. And what if say somebody is I'll give you an example. If somebody is going into a everyone's got teenagers. My teenagers don't drink and not interested, but they're invited to 18th birthday parties and the university starts this week here in Australia, so they're going to go to parties and if they go into an area, we have an area in the city, which I don't like at all. It's called the Valley and it's just nightclub after nightclub and, Like I had to go there for a birthday party the other day and I was like, oh, it was just like, how can I get in and out as fast as possible? But not talking about ghosts, talking about negative entities that might be. in the area. Can you use that triangulation of force to have them moved on? So obviously there's the service with, ghosts, but there's service also to these negative beings to see, to have them transmitted and moved on to the light. When you're asking the angels for help, you can ask them to cross over any being who crosses their path. Any. Whether it's a ghost, it's a black magician, it's a lower realm intelligence. doesn't matter. If they're coming toward you and they're not for your highest and best good, then they need to be crossed over and no longer stay there. Again, it's a service for the area. The other thing is if your, child, if your teenager is under 18, you can visualize that they're inside that triangle of force. them. You can also ask their permission to send them with just a little bit of bit of protection because you never quite know things happen in these places. And I, my children are much older now, but I lived through teenage years and they're really hard sometimes. And you do the very best you can with the protection that you're offering, and you can fill the car with angels, you can fill her triangle angels, wherever she is, and you can assign an angel to be with her, and whenever you're using the services of an angel, always show gratitude at the end I know you do that, where you're saying I'm so grateful for your help, thank you, all these different angels, and you don't even have to know the names. You're making a request. And if it's an area where there's been child or child abuse or child problems, you can request children angels. They're not as visually intimidating as a seven foot archangel. Yeah. So just. Again, the whole purpose of this particular podcast and show is to just offer people as many ideas as possible. I'm really grateful to you for, making this, opportunity available. Yeah. I was at no, no problem. I was out, I just thought I've dropped my kid kids off at school. I'm going to go for a walk. And I went for a walk in this, part. I was just looking to take photos of flowers, to be honest with you. I thought I've got a friend that I'd send a photo a day to and I'm going to send her some flowers. So I go looking at houses and things like that and I walked past, Oh, I walked past this pub and I knew immediately that there had been children sexually molested in there. And so I crossed those children over straight away. For me, it's even now, still you taught me how to do this in 2021. I knew a little bit of how to do it before, but even now it still catches me by surprise when I can feel this energy and I'm like, no, Katesh, you're not making it up. You're very in tune. There's a child there they've been sexually molested. I'm really sorry that you know that, but I'm not sorry that you know that because you're here to be of service, but it's okay. You're okay, you're fine. You walk past here for a reason. This is not a coincidence. And sometimes I'll still get overwhelmed and I'll just say, rescue spirits of light, please come in, help this child. I know there's been some disgusting things happened in here, and I just say I, I'm just too in the moment. At the moment, and that's all I remember is rescue spirits of a light. Do you know what I mean? I can't even get any other. tools out there because I've just the visualizations are just too strong for Me. how do you feel about people who get stuck in that moment? And they just say something like, Rescue spirits of light, please come and help this location. Do you think that's enough? I think that's if, that's what comes to mind, then whatever you're doing to help the location at the moment is enormous service. When you're performing this enormous service. You're asking the spirits of the light. I would be more specific and use angels of the light because I don't know what the spirits are. can also bring in spiritual police take charge of the situation and request children angels to hold their hands. where you're very specific in the teams you're bringing in and you're literally bringing in spiritual police angels of peace and calming to help that area and then children angels to enable them to be crossed over in as quickly a manner as possible I always see the child holding the hand of the angel when I, when, you know, when that, that, when I'm able to get that. It's just sometimes it's like that vision is just, it's too upsetting and you're, like. I can't even think in this moment, but I know who to call. So I just wanted to, reassure people that, whoever you call in that moment will come to help and it's okay. Yeah. It is okay. Some people have the crossing over prayer on their phone and some people carry just a printed version of the crossing over prayer in a handbag or a luggage or a wallet, but it emits. And it's going to help you in that process. And again that's the whole point is to enable anyone to over these souls. And I, I just feel like that this ability to help them is. is so huge. You want to protect yourself and I certainly understand that. And it is spiritual service isn't easy. you're having to hear or see these things that have happened to people, the horrific things that have happened to children. ended up clearing some tunnels where there was human trafficking and I was a basket case for three days. It was, so horrific that I, had a really hard time. That was in 2020 when I, stumbled on that through a long process. And it means that you're seeing the worst of humanity. You're seeing the mindless cruelty of what one human being does to another. And when you elevate yourself to a level where you can, in fact, assist that soul, even though these terrible things happened by crossing them over, you've taken them out of a toxic. cycle, and you've enabled them to have massive healing on levels you couldn't possibly have imagined, which may mean they may not come back for a very long time because they have required so much healing. So it's important service. Yeah. And I literally just did a podcast episode yesterday with an amazing gentleman who incarcerated and in in his time in prison, he actually had an NDE and went to the light and basically came back down. And from the minute that he came back down he nearly died of COVID in the prison. And I was just thinking that since then he's been teaching inmates and he did from the minute that he was in there, how to write poetry. To express their emotions and as they were writing poetry, it basically lifted their thoughts, heal, help their emotions and they could see pathways that were of a positive nature rather than dark nature. And I was just thinking, wouldn't it be amazing not everybody has a perfect squeaky clean family. Somebody in your family may end up through circumstances and karma incarcerated to teach People had to protect themselves from the other inmates and all the ghosts and the negative thoughts and the negative entities around them, but also to help them with those rose petals and the salty rain visualizations to help them whilst they're in there while they take that time to reflect on what has happened in their life, because they're not nice institutions. No, they're really bad. They're really, bad. You could salt the entire prison. Yeah. If you think about it, because it's a public space, You can salt the entire prison. If you were to do those practices. Over time, it would be an astonishing experiment. And I think this is a really genius idea that you're discussing. I think you're absolutely right. family members are outlaws, not in laws, shall we say. And that's a terrible thing. But if they had an opportunity to try something different, maybe they have life in prison. You can still make A change in your life while you're reflecting on what happened or what got you there in the first place. I think that's why the Shawshank Redemption is such an amazing film if no one's ever seen it. Yeah, great film. Also the Green Mile is another really fantastic film, because prisons are unnecessary. Place on in, in life, people are not elevated. People are horribly abused as children. Actually, I have so many clients that I can't believe they're not serial killers because of the horrific childhoods they had it's sometimes it's very hard to hear it. And I'm sure you go through the same thing, but crossing people over helps them understand just the current life just lived. all the previous ones and how they work together Enables them to. Have the blessing and the light be part of them Wouldn't would never have occurred to them. Yeah, I was flabbergasted listening to this gentleman because he was telling me how people in these prisons are not only allowed to drink alcohol but they're allowed to manufacture drugs. These are private prisons and these are America, in America, and basically the guards turn a bly eye to prison mates stabbing each other, and I was like yeah, that's not acceptable. I don't care what they've done. That's not acceptable. You're just re creating more and more karma amongst all these people who are in there. And how powerful to teach one person at a time. how to use these tools so that they don't get involved in creating karma with other inmates for a start, and that they can process and learn these tools for themselves to help themselves, just like this gentleman did with poetry, one rose petal exercise at a time, and you, change the trajectory of humanity because you are working to assist people in the worst of situations, change that situation through their mind. I think that's absolutely a super important point. There was another friend of mine a long time ago was really focusing on using a labyrinth and they did an experiment with several prisons and they put these massive 23 circuit labyrinths, which is the shark cathedral labyrinth is a 23 circuit. Anyway, they're enormous. It might take you 30 minutes to walk, just walk through it, go in and out. And they couldn't believe the difference in the inmates. Inmates who walk the labyrinth on a constant basis, something began to shift because a labyrinth functions on the brain in some astounding ways. I didn't even put labyrinths in the, in this book. Again, there's only so much you can put in. Amazon won't print it if it's over 500 pages. We had to cut a lot. All right. Okay. Where I'm going with all this is, yes, there are people in prisons and there are horrible things that happen in prisons. But every person who might get to read this book or who might get to know this or hear this podcast, maybe that individual could make a difference. Maybe if, can you imagine being a psychic in a prison without any tools? It would be, it's a double hell. It's hell enough, but then it's a double hell. And you all have all these personality and psychiatric disorders in these prisons. So it's a really hard place to be. But you're right. Listening to this man talk about doing what he could do using poetry, is a soft and gentle writing opportunity where they can express themselves maybe it's just private for them, but they get to express maybe some of the horrible things that happened to them maybe little bits and pieces of their souls are restored over time. And that's perhaps the best we can hope for. I think this is a really fascinating to talk about. Yeah. Yeah, it was fascinating because he then connected connected them with, UCA and when they left prison, they were able to do I think you call them bachelor's degrees in poetry. So they took the poems that they wrote and then they were able to get pathways into education. And these were people that couldn't couldn't see any benefit in education. They were just really They'd been told they were dumb their entire life, but once they were taught how to write a poem, they didn't see it as education, but what it did is it just really worked magic with their souls. And then they was, showing the pathway that they could actually go and study poetry. And yeah, it's in the middle of working wonders at the moment, but it was just like, wow, okay there's one step. I think I'll send him a link to this podcast episode and say, listen to this idea and maybe you want to incorporate this as well, because he's obviously out of prison now and has been for a while. that would make a massive difference. That's the ripple effect of offering tools for the service of everybody. There's, we're not discriminating here. Anyone can use these Yeah. maybe someone made some horrendous mistakes. Again, I, sometimes what happens to a person as a child, and the other problem is some people come in very, damaged. Serial killers are born. They're not necessarily made. Sometimes they can be made worse by what happens to them, but I think that these are really important tools, and I think it's awesome that you're sharing them. Yeah. Thank you. So therefore, if you think that there are. With that last comment, serial killers can also be born, then rose petal visualizations in newborn wards would be amazing, wouldn't it? It would be amazing. It's unknown to me how that could or would shift things. can always ask that the wards be filled with angels. So that souls are protected, they're new. Here's the other interesting thing in years and years of study. Not all souls enter the body at birth. Some of them don't come in for many days after birth. Some come in while they're still in the womb. And I, don't really, I don't think we can say, Oh this is when a soul enters the body. I don't know when that is. begins. Apparently there is a spark. It's a visible spark. I saw it. I saw it on Facebook. Yeah, that was amazing. absolutely magical. Absolutely magical. Anyway, there's so much metaphysics when you start really moving into it. It's like mental popcorn. You just can't stop. It's just so fascinating. Yeah, fabulous. All right, you've given us so much food for thought and I just want to end it there. I know we could talk forever, but I really wanted to not over complicate it in this episode for people. Cause I really wanted them to go and get the book, listen to the visualizations you've done and implement one or two things that we've said, because there's so many things, but if they can do rose petals salty rain. And the triangulation, and we can teach that to as many people as possible like Jamie Oliver had his thing originally, teach one friend one recipe from a cookbook and we help the world learn to cook, teach one friend the pink rose petal visualization, and we also help the world one rose shower at a time. Yes, we do. Yeah. Yes, we do. And it might reduce a lot of anxiety for a lot of, let's say that you had a really anxious day. You could literally fill your bedroom with pink rose petals and you might sleep a little better. It's, are all things that are worth a try. Experiment with it. Yeah. every scenario because I could only put so much in, but it's a great, it's a great tool Yeah. And please, if you're watching this on YouTube or on a podcast player where you can actually leave comments, some of them you can, some of them you can't, or you see this posted on any of my social media, please leave us a comment. Tell us. How you found trying with these experimentations and I'll pass them on to Tina via email just so that you can get it's great to get feedback I think. Yes, it is. It is great to get feedback. Thank you so much, Tina. That was wonderful and had a great time. yeah, it's been wonderful as always and We will wait to see how this experiments goes with the pink. We'll call it the pink rose petal experiment We'll see how we can spread that far and wide and I'm gonna As soon as I finish downloading this episode and uploading it, I'm going to send a link to my friend, the former prison inmate. And let's see what we can spark some magic there. So exciting. I'm, thrilled. And thank you as always for having me. And we are great. We are a great team. Thanks, Tina. Thank you.