Feeling dread on a Sunday? Here’s how to break free | CT Kaupp.

Do you have feelings of dread on a Sunday about the week ahead? Feel as though you have to be super productive over the week ahead? Irrespective of if you're self employed or an employee, this episode is for you!  Our guest this week is CT Kaupp who is on a mission to help the world overcome the Sunday Scaries for good! 

•  The discussion covers CT's journey from corporate life to solopreneurship, the importance of mindfulness, journaling, and finding fulfillment, and how simple practices like cold plunges and connecting with animals can enhance one's quality of life. 
• CT also shares insights on how to maintain authenticity in our fast-paced, comparison-driven world and invites listeners to reset and find balance through mindful practices.

Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to the Infinite Life Podcast
00:39 Meet CT Kaupp: Multi-Business Solopreneur
01:40 Understanding the Sunday Scaries
03:44 CT's Lightbulb Moment and Mission
08:59 Identifying and Addressing Root Causes
12:32 Practical Tips for Overcoming Anxiety
19:03 The Power of Cold Plunges
23:39 The Power of Physical and Mental Resets
23:58 Childhood Memories and Their Impact
28:03 The Healing Power of Pets
32:18 Finding Joy in Simple Activities
36:08 The Importance of Self-Compassion
39:48 The Value of Mindful Breaks
43:23 Conclusion and Invitation to Connect

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Welcome to the infinite life with Katische Haberfield. I'd like to take you on a transformative journey, exploring the mysteries of the soul. I hope you enjoy the regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions that I've had with guests on the podcast. I hope that these answer some of the questions that you might have about life on this planet, on others, and in other dimensions. Thank you for joining me and please don't forget to like and subscribe and Most importantly, share with your friends. Namaste. Welcome back to the infinite life with Katische Haberfield podcast. I'm your host Katische Haberfield. We're in season 13. This week we have CT Kaupp. CT is a multi-business solopreneur, beach lover and golden retriever enthusiast dedicated to helping individuals and businesses align their work with their souls purpose. He started his first business CT KLLC in 2017, offering web design and source support services. And expanded his mission in 2024 with a mindful SPX, guiding others towards balance between meaningful work and fulfilling life. for his genuine and intentional approach, he empowers entrepreneurs, creatives and professionals to build purposeful careers through his digital content, coaching and speaking engagements. CT's life mission is simple, to rid the world of the Sunday scaries for good. So welcome to the podcast CT. Thank you very much for having me. So it's Sunday here in Australia. I know you're in Saturday night. So Sunday scaries is a rather optimal talk topic to talk about. I started off in mainstream industries. I started off working for,, Accenture, who back then was called Anderson Consulting. And like the rest of us, had to get up on a Monday morning, go to work, work long weeks, work hard, play hard, but you do develop the Sunday scaries. That dread, the, Oh my God, I have to do it again. I need to earn money for the week. I did all this training in this profession. I'm good at it, but is it what I'm here for? Is it my life purpose? And, Oh, I don't have time because I had to do the washing, I had to go do the grocery shopping, I had to take the dog for a walk. I wanted to go to the beach. Didn't quite get there, so I'm not as relaxed as I think I am. Did I get anything out for tomorrow morning's breakfast? Tomorrow morning's lunch? Oh, I have kids. Who's got what? What does it say on the timetable on the fridge? Ah, we don't sleep well. So, my interpretation of the topic. I would say you explained that quite well. Yeah. Yeah. It's the dread and anxiety and worry and the, yeah, just, , the uneasy. I think that would be the right word. The uneasiness as you're going from Sunday to Monday. And I think too, that the it's funny because it's a Sunday scary. So you think you need to fix Sunday, but actually it's more, I think, fixing the week, that then leads into your Sunday that then leads into your Monday as is the better approach and getting to that root cause. Yeah, because we can be as organised as we like on a Sunday, but, if you don't like what you're doing on Monday, then that flows over to the rest of the week and we get the, oh, it's Wednesday, it's hump day, and Friday, finally Friday. And this is, , I turned on the radio on Friday. I usually listen to podcasts and audio books when I drive, but I turned on to the radio because I had left my phone at home. And, they were celebrating the fact that it was Friday and finally Friday. And I'm like, we're reinforcing this culture of thank God it's Friday. Yeah. And I, so like where it came to me, like how this came to be, why I feel so called to this is that I had an experience where I was supposed to meet with some friends on the beach, actually, like you just didn't mention, play volleyball on a Sunday. And they reached back out and said, Oh, Hey, you know what? We can't, so and so's friend has a Sunday scaries. And I just like vividly remember I had my phone in my hand and I was standing right beside my couch and I just let it drop and I was like Wait a second, there's something deeper here, because if we are fulfilled and find meaning and purpose in our work, because we work so much, of our lives, we can find fulfillment and purpose and meaning within that, it doesn't need to be the holy grail, but the everything it doesn't have to be our identity. But if we can find the fulfillment meaningful meaning and purpose, then the idea of Sunday scares does not even exist. It's not even in our thought process. And that was the epitaphs. Society has just normalized it and has continued to perpetuate the cycle. What I want to know about that friend, , so you were going to go to the beach and that person had the Sunday scare, the friend. a Sunday scaries. It was so bad that their friends knew that every Sunday he gets Sunday scaries And they had to go help him. What was the situation? took it so I didn't I don't know them super well. They were they're just friends of a friend. But the way that I took it was, yeah, it was like, it was too much. It was like, too overwhelming that, we can't do anything because they have to take care of that. It's normalized so that it is okay, but we just normalize it but we don't actually work through it. So saying that you have the sunday scares or any anything that you want to give a label to? It doesn't really do much than feel like it's accepting in and of yourself because oh this person says that they have it and that person's society and then we're reinforcing like you said with the radio and like all of the things that we're consuming in everyday life is just reinforcing it so it's just like this idea of I have it or there's like putting the label on it without actually doing the work , to get through it and figure out the root cause to, to find that fulfillment and meaning in their life. Mm hmm. So you said it was like a lightbulb moment for you in terms of this is what I want to help people with. How did you go from it was a lightbulb moment on that beach couldn't meet up with my friends they've got Sunday scaries it's my life mission. So over the last six months or so, I've had many iterations of the Mindful Soul Paneur or XPX for short. This was just one of those and just kept iterating and I kept iterating on it. And I'm very in tune with energy and intuition and just what feels right. And so there was something about that experience that was like , it was a deeper experiences, a deeper sign to me, to dive into that, with more vigor. And then because I just feel like I've seen it so much from a 30, 000 foot view from society, wherever we live, whatever kind of job or career that we have, and , it's agnostic. It doesn't matter if you're a solo business owner or you work for a big company it's like really has nothing to do with the. the type of work. It's more about internally, like how you feel about that. And you may work eight to five and you love that because of X, Y, Z, or you may run your own business and enjoy that because of A, B, and C, but the scientific scares could still be present depending on kind of , the equation, behind the scenes, so to speak. That's a good distinction because I had, just assumed that's a vague gross generalization that, if you're self employed, you must love what you're doing and therefore you don't get the Sunday scaries. But what you're saying to me is no, Sunday scaries still apply to business owners and solopreneurs. I'm supposing, have you, you've had the Sunday scares yourself? I would say not very often. However, when it does happen, when it has happened, it's like a light bulb, moment. So there's, basically two times that I re that I feel that I've experienced it. And it was one when I was working in corporate and it was, I don't want to go to work tomorrow. And that was the side of me of, Oh, why am I feeling that? What does that mean? Why do I feel that way? And it was because I was freelancing on the side and I was loving the six to midnight more than the eight to five. And so that, that told me that I need to pursue that at a much deeper level. And then, secondarily, it happened, I was at the movies on a Sunday afternoon, and I got out of the movies, and I'm like, I don't really want to do the web stuff tomorrow. I don't want to work on that business. And so then that was the sign to me of, I need to make this coaching thing, take that to the next level. So it's more of like an internal sign to me that's that something is out of alignment with whatever I'm doing, whether that was working in corporate or, like we were just saying, , doing the solo thing, it didn't matter. And, allowed me to take a step back and reevaluate. Mm hmm. the thing is, CT, some people might say, I don't like, or I don't want to go to work, for years, decades. How have you identified how you can help people who might have that thought and might have that dread feeling realize that now it's time to act on it. Some people just think that's so part of natural life that they wouldn't even stop to identify that as an intuitive hit or a sign. How do you help people understand that you're having that feeling for a reason? Yeah, I think , there's so many layers to it. I think there's more layers to it when they have that kind of mindset that , may have been there for several years, but it's really working through those layers to figure out. Where the root causes because you can come to me and say that you hate your job or you hate your boss or employee,, coworkers or whatever you can come to me with all this work related, let's just call it drama or, negativity, but then working together two weeks from then we realized that actually it's the disconnection that you feel with your spouse. That then is feeding into that work and so there is that holistic wheel. I like to think of it as , it's identifying the root cause because what you think the root causes may not actually be what is causing those feelings. Yeah. And I think that's a really important thing because, we do have, multiple things that are reasons for the way we feel, but they're layered and they're, you have to drill down, right? To get to the, to that root cause because some of those things could be , excuses, rationalizations, they could be, my wife says I can't. When she's probably thinking, geez, I wish he'd change his job, , but all these perceptions and, , it might be, my kid is going to this school next year and I want to be seen as a lawyer or a banker or a accountant, I can't go and be this that I really want to be until they've finished school. So I'm guessing that's what you mean in terms of that. Yeah, there's so many labels that we all put on everything. And so saying that I heard a while back was you limit what you label. Mm. and that, that really, really stuck with me because it's so much of what you just said, Oh. My kid is going through school, so I can't do anything until he graduates or I have to do this because it looks a certain way to my family, friends, neighbors, whatever we can go on and on until the sun comes up or for you, the sun comes, it goes down, but figuring that out because there's just, there's too much, I guess there's no way there's just too much noise. It's too much. We're consuming stuff 24 7, 365. And so we have all this noise that we can't just sit still for five minutes. Mm. And so once you have identified it, do you have any tips, for people who are thinking, well, sure, I get that, but how would I? work through it? Because , you and I, we work with people and we help people, but there's that big gap, this jump between when a client is ready to come work with you and when they sit with their own thoughts at home and they're like, should I, shouldn't I? Oh, I should be able to do this myself. I'm a smart person. I can work through this through myself. I can rationalize it. It's not that important. It's not in a priority. I've got this other bill to pay or whatever. Have you got any ideas of how people can work through that, just this initial fear and anxiety that they have that this isn't big enough for me to seek help? Yeah, that's a great point. I would say to make a list. Just very simply. You can do it on your phone. You can do it on a sheet of paper. Doesn't really matter how you want to do it. But whatever you're feeling right now, throughout, this isn't really a Sunday thing. This is just like throughout the week, when you're feeling that negativity or that misalignment, write down, like actually document that. So that you can look back in three days, three weeks, whatever it is. And do you still feel that? And then if you do that and you're like, okay, like there's something obviously deeper there that it continually keeps coming up, or it could be the opposite and you, Hey, you know what I had that I felt that way for a couple of days and then. it went away, disappeared, whatever. But, I think because, it's similar to a fitness journey. I talk about, , just journaling is really important, but this kind of has the same idea to it is when you're starting on a fitness journey, you may not see the changes on scale or body composition that you want, but that doesn't mean that changes are taking place. A couple of weeks or months into it, you start taking progress pictures. You don't feel like you're seeing anything. You're not seeing anything like tangible. But once you start taking progress pictures and you're like, Oh my gosh, look at where I am now versus where I was. And without that, you would think that the workout isn't working. So very similar to that. Is writing down just so you have that documented. It doesn't need to be long. You don't need a journal for hours on end, but just to get those thoughts and ideas around what's really bothering you. We're, , work or personal. It doesn't necessarily matter, but it's really just like getting in tune with with yourself and that energy that's off. So you then you can reflect back on that, because if you don't. You'll just have no idea. You won't remember., we all have the monkey minds that I guarantee, , try this. Go in the shower and be like, Hey. Okay, when I get out, I need to remember A, B, and C, when you get out of the shower, I guarantee you're going to forget two of three of those, if not all three of them, because like our minds, aren't wired that way., and so it's just important to get it down, documented. yeah, I know some people will, write on their mirror with a lipstick or an eyeliner or, a whiteboard pen. The things that they were thinking in the shower because they haven't got paper nearby, but they're like, right, I'm gonna write this on my mirror or whatever just so I don't forget it. And I have a little sign, a printout. No, it's not a printout. It's done in my scribbly handwriting that I ripped out a piece of paper. Stuck on a blue tag next to my mirror, which says, , overthinking doesn't allow your intuition to shine through. Often I'll be standing there thinking, thinking, thinking, and they're like, Look at the picture. Look at that piece of paper, Katie. Stop thinking!, my brain goes a million miles an hour., but yeah, simple things like that, I guess, could help too with that. Yeah, , we could go, we can go on and on about that. Like I, very similarly, I have recently put a saying on my phone as my alarm and it's just, again, that like simple. Awareness to remember that to, go into the day with that phrase, in mind. And that's just that's something I've done more recently, but very similar to just having, , a little post it or something that, reminds you of it. But it's so simple. You don't even think about it, but yet it can have such a big impact. Mm. The reason why I brought those examples up and for so I'll just have to move over those who are going to watch this eventually on YouTube. I'll show you something. Here's my stack of beautiful journals that I keep getting gifted, that are empty! Because I'm one of these people that just can't seem to pick up the pen and write their thoughts through. I'm like, oh, but it needs to be something profound and beautiful and it must change the world and I can't bother this journal until that thought matches the beauty of the journal. What tips do you have for people like me that get overwhelmed by blank spaces and where to start? Start with their thoughts that you, that, like the world you've read, listen to seen on TV shows, programs, books that says all famous, all, interesting, successful and non successful people journal. But there are still people like me out there in the world that go, I need the right pen. And, I don't want to use that journal now because it's too pretty. You need the right pen and you need the right color journal and the right, the right, you know, the feeling on the paper and everything has to be perfect. I would say actually quite simply is that do what works for you and forget the rest. So I feel as a society, we all, we're just consuming so much. And so I'm big into cold plunges, but you may think that's the dumbest thing in the world. And I can find some doctor or scientific paper that tells you all these amazing benefits about cold plunges. I'm sure that you can find. Another one that says, Oh, it's really not, there's really not that much benefit to it. And so we can just we can find whatever we want to find to, to prove our thought, whatever we like or don't like. And so to me, it's not as much of a, Hey, you have to do this. It's more of just. Do what works for you and forget the rest and if waking up and playing music that gets you excited for the day works for you, then do that. Or if journaling helps you unwind or to get more intentional with your thoughts or be more in tune with your thoughts, then do it. Or maybe it's not journaling in the sense that you're talking about, but maybe it's I'm going to open up an email draft and just jot something in there at the end of each day before I, , leave to go home for work. You can do like, it's just trying to find a different way to do it. But again, like if it doesn't work, then just don't do it because it's more to me about sustainability and continuity. And if you don't like it, then you're just going to resist it. And so like to go back to cone plunges. You can get all the amazing, you can read about all the amazing benefits, but if you're ready, your mind's already made up that you hate it or you're not going to like it, well then I guarantee you're not going to stick with it most likely. And so, just a thought there. Yeah, and , I know you mightn't think it's related, but I do find it interesting. So cold plunges, have you found that, so I read Wim Hof's books, I've watched Tony Robbins do all these cold plunges, I have myself tried to do cold showers, and there is that feeling when you, I've never done a proper cold plunge, where , you go into cold water and it just literally takes your breath away. Did you, why did you get into cold plunges? Does that help you with overthinking or the Sunday scaries? Or, for example, I think it could be an example of a tool that, does help people, for example. I would tell you that it is cold plunges in, in the sense of what you described of like you're getting in the tub of, of very cold water. To, to me, like the, you can do the cold shower thing, but there was something about, , I was at a retreat and that's where I first did it. And there was something about doing that, like with other people having that camaraderie. But there was something different about that experience than just having a termite shower in cold water. I guess it's the same thing, but for some reason, for me, it was different. And what. I tell people is that cold plunging is the best example of mindfulness because I literally sat in the cold plunge in particular direction so that I would look out towards the mountains. That was going to be , my sight line. And I'm like, I'm just going to, it's going to be cold as heck. I don't care. I'm just gonna look at these beautiful mountains for three minutes and we're good. I don't remember looking at the mountains ever. The entire time. It's like the only thing that mattered was controlling the breath so that I survived and it was way more intense. We had done the day prior. We had jumped into a pool that wasn't heated and the goal was, Hey, we're going to go in there like 5 to 10 minutes. We're doing it as a group. So again, you can have that camaraderie aspect and we all kind of felt like, wow, this isn't that bad. Like Copeland won't, it'll be fine. The next day we do the actual cold plunge and it's water out of a hose. In a tub, in a bunch of ice in there. So I don't know how cold it was, but decently, , much colder than the, the pool was. And so it definitely was like a shock to the system. What I tell people though is that the energetic, heightened sense of energy that I felt afterwards, like my creative juices were through the roof and. It was a digital detox retreat, so we don't have any of our devices. I can't work because we don't have that available. But that is like the everlasting feeling was just this insane increase of just energy and creative juices and wanting to, just crush a deep work block because I was just like, so amped, amped up. I don't drink caffeine. So maybe that's what people feel like when they drink caffeine. But it was something like I had never experienced. Okay. And you said this was at a retreat and then do you do that in your daily life now? do you have your own cold plunge pool? I do not. If we can speak this into existence, what I would like is the contrast therapy. So I would love to either find somewhere or be able to build it. To have like cold plunge and hot tub next to each other. Mm. there's like a lot of benefits with the contrast. And, I've seen some places around the U s. that offer that. I've seen more cold plunge and sauna than like cold plunge hot tub, but I have seen a few of those that definitely piqued my interest. I'm a big fan of, Jonna Jinton, who's a YouTuber, and Cecilia Blomdahl, and, , Eric Daniel, and they all live in Sweden, Norway, and Svalbard. And so my favorite things to watch them is when they do the crazy, , cut a hot round hole in the ice, they go into the sauna that's on the edge of the lake, and then they run out nude and they jump into that ice and it's , but it's part of their culture, it's part of their, they've grown up with it, it's a ritual, and they do it, and they describe that they feel so much better, and they're open about How anxious they feel, in their daily life. And they're all self employed. They're YouTubers. They document their entire life for us to feel more relaxed yet in the process they feel more stressed because, they've been psychoanalyzing, is this video good enough? Is it a high enough resolution? Did I make them feel relaxed? Did I contribute? Whatever, but they go back to nature to cold plunge after a hot sauna and , it's as though the anxiety of that moment has just gone away because they, exactly what you said, just focusing in on the breath just to survive, but afterwards they're like, yeah, that was great. Let's do it next week., yeah. I'd love to live it in one of those cold countries just to do that. Or you go there. It's like a reset. It's like a reset, but like physically because of obviously the contrast of that. So it's like a it's I guess it's a physical and , let's call it mind, body, soul reset versus just, , meditation or something. So there's a, there's another thought. I know it's getting quite popular in Australia, really quite popular. Another side anecdote when I was little, like talking about, one, two, three, four kind of years old, we used to have a sauna and a spa and I actually did, , hypnosis, hypnotherapy, timeline management,, session , with a friend recently. I, remember going back to the moment in time where my dad was teaching me to not run out of the sauna into the spa because he was obviously trying to teach me safety, but then my inner child was just giggling wildly because it was just such a fun thing to have back then that, that heat and then the relatively cooler, but then the cold air between it. And it's interesting how your soul does try to remind you of these little moments and says, Hello, do you remember this? Remember how good you felt? Remember how you laughed? I have a friend with who has a magnesium pill and every time I go there, she has got a sauna. And if you jump into the cold magnesium pill, I scream. It's like this little girl just suddenly just lets out this big scream, but it's like also, hilarious and you're cold, but you, do feel better. That's something to look into for the listeners and watchers is, do you have a wellness? and I, can you do anything to add to that? can you afford to buy one of those things in the future that can, or can you have a cold bath or a really cold shower just to start the theory out so that you can tap into this creativity? And, that might be that first thing that unlocks space for you in your brain so that then you can say, yeah, this is something that I want to pursue. I want to go down further, I want to talk with somebody about my, , Sunday anxiety, Sunday scaries, but at least I know I can help myself in that process through the insights that I've gained today by listening to this., what else , would you like to talk about , in relation to, the processes that you go through or what you want people to know about the Sunday scaries and, different reflections that you have. I will go back to an idea that you just mentioned and then goes back to earlier in the conversation is You know, to think about not just what is off right now, what feels misaligned in your current moment, but think about what you enjoyed when you were a kid Mm. I'll tell you something like I vividly remember getting for Christmas when I don't know, I was 5, 8, 10 years old. I have no, I do not remember the particular age, but when I was. And, , it was a book of all different dog breeds. And I don't even remember like why my parents got me that. Like I always liked dogs, but we didn't have one. My dad was allergic. And, I just remember enjoying looking through that. And like, I've always, I've always enjoyed dogs. And then we were able to get one, years later that didn't shed and it worked out and everything was great , but over the last six months of the year to a year, I've been feeling this like deeper energetic pole to two dogs, and I just find that fascinating because that's it's not like it's out of the blue, like it's always been there. So it's sort of to your listeners like think about things that you enjoyed when you were a kid, it may or may not have anything to do with your work or your professional life. But. It couldn't can't open other doors or experiences that you could go down. And because you get to do you figure you realize something that, hey, I really enjoyed doing that. And now you make room for that in your weekend. Now you feel Way better when you go to work.'cause you're, there's a little bit more purpose there. You're feeling a little more, meaning a little more fulfillment throughout your weekend. There's something more that you're looking forward to than just getting to Friday to then have the weekend to then feel the dread and breaks that cycle. I, Mm. Mm. And you have a golden retriever? Boy or a girl? I do not, I do not know. I'm just the type that has to pet every single dog that I see. Okay. okay, yeah, alright, yeah. Golden retriever enthusiast, yep. Just because I ask, there's a big spiritual side to animals as well. And , so it wasn't until, I got my cat, whose name is Max, who I've locked out of this session, because otherwise he'd be all over the computer, and a cat. It's really fast tracked and opened, my career currently, my cat, it's really interesting to see my cat, actually recognizes guests on the podcast and clients , in client sessions. And I've even had, because of past life regression sessions, I've even had people say, it's on the podcast. Oh, I know Max. I know Max from a past life, like he was my cat and I'm like, wow, that's interesting. So for me, I was just like, , I want to get my kids a cat for Christmas., because, , we finally had bought, my own house, a townhouse. And I'd been, divorced for 10 years at the time. And we had a dog that we shared custody of. And he, eventually went up to the, the rural property where my ex husband and his wife live. And so there was that gap in our life. So we had a Labrador, a black Labrador. I was like, Oh, this townhouse is small. The Labrador is unwell. He's gone up to the farm. It's not a farm, the rural property. So there's a hole in our life. And so I bought the cat for the kids. And it's turned out to be my cat. I needed the cat., and, the cat, I talk about multiple benefits of the cat, but one of them, is what I call per therapy. And the Mm, mm-hmm of the cat, , if you feel anxious, and you have a cat or a dog, but definitely with a cat, the cat will go sit down on that location where your anxiety is the most and purr right there. And that vibration will help with the anxiety and helps move it away. It's really quite interesting and I've seen it, on occasion and I've had a hypnotherapy session in here in my office and the cat actually will jump upon, , the client and sit down, because when we do hypnotherapy in some, we do find sometimes that the emotion is still stored in the body and the cat will sit on that exact location and provide per therapy as they are going through a bad moment in time, a moment that they classify as stressful or fearful. They'll go through that moment, maybe cry and exactly the moment when they've cleared that emotion, the cat will walk away. It's like, yeah, so it's really fascinating how there's, , cats can help you move emotions and same with dogs, they do know that, padding a dog or a cat or any kind of animal releases, oxytocin and helps you, feel less stress. For me it was a dual benefit because it opened up a whole new side of the world that I could see, because my cat can see spiritual entities. So that was how I tuned into being able to see the archangels. It was how I learned to see ghosts and negative thought forms. And I've learned a lot about, myself I'd never thought I was an overly. Animal friendly person, like it was just like, oh yeah, we grew up with cats. My husband at the time, he had a dog and, they were like a sideline to my life. But then when I got Max, it opened up whole new conversations on podcasts and past life regression sessions. I learned to use the cat for my own anxiety and therapy. And then I'm like, and I also have many memories with animals in other lifetimes. So it was like, like opening a window or a door to another world that, as you said, can open you create new creativity. And I haven't fully tapped into it yet, is there if I want to maybe write about it or whatever. But you don't know until you sit down and you think, what's this animal helping me with? And why do I have this urge to have an animal? Why do I read the books about animals? Why am I drawn to books on, on, on animals? What role can they help me in my life? And am I supposed to be? Well no, you mightn't be supposed to be the obvious dog washer or a vet or whatever, but there might be a secondary layer to why you're attracted to animals and how they can help you and how they can help others. So yeah, that's a, that's an interesting insight there and how you've always been drawn towards animals. Are you going to get an animal in the future? I would say that, by myself, I don't have, I travel a lot. So it doesn't totally jive, but with a partner, I'm totally, totally open to it. I also would share that, , long term I want to do retreats. And so I feel very called to do, to do a retreat combined with dogs in some kind of way. I'm excited to explore that down the road. Yeah. We have, , I haven't been to them. We have, , it's become big here in Australia. Puppy and goat yoga. Do you have that over Hmm. I don't think I've heard of puppy, but I mean, I can't believe actually I haven't, but, , the goat definitely I've heard of the goat stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Are coming in everywhere. And as you said, opens up your weekend, gives you another purpose, something else , to look forward to rather than, the old sit in front of the TV and have a glass of wine or a beer for the weekend. Yeah. And I think about two for your listeners. It could be 52, 000 different things. You could have liked a woodworking when you were. Younger or just in a previous job. Right. And like you add that back to your mix and now you're feeling much more fulfilled or you like to paint and you have given that up for the last X amount of years. And now you're incorporating that back. We read about all the routines and all the, here's the 62 things you have to do in your morning before you check your phone. But, just think about it a different way and just think about, , what like single thing could you do on a weekend that would, give you more energy and more so than let's just pop on Netflix and a bottle of popcorn or a bottle of wine and some popcorn or whatever. There's just so many more ways that can be productive. And it doesn't mean that you have to make it into a business. You can just do art and nobody has to ever see it, but it's fulfilling to you because it's something that, gives you peace. And I think that's an important point there too, because we so often think, well, yeah, I could start that, but I've got to be good at it. Like I need to pay some, I need to paint something that I can post on Facebook to show my friends. No, you don't. You can just. Paint for the heck of it, right? Especially if you're a very goal orientated person, or very achievement orientated. struggle with that myself, is a hobby. Okay, Katische what hobby would you like to do? And I'm immediately like, right! I want to be excellent at it. You can be bad at it. You can fail at it. It's alright. It's like, you need that permission slip. permission to be really shitty at it. I would tell you that I travel, like I just was saying, I travel a bunch. And I can probably count on one hand the amount of times that I've actually talked about that on social media. It's just, it's more like an internal thing. And so if we look at society at large, like people are going to places, trips. To because like their Instagram worthy, right? Cause like it'll look good, but like it's so superficial and it's so like externally driven. And so when I travel, like, it's for me, like it fills my soul and being able to see different experience, different cities for the first time, like different perspectives. It doesn't mean that I need to go live there or I need to move there or I need to go there again. It could just be a one off thing, but Just that seeing new airports, new cities, trying new airlines, whatever it might be, all of that, , it's just very exciting to me and fulfills me on a deep level. And it's just like finding out what that is for yourself, and it could have nothing to do with travel, and that's perfectly fine, or art, or animals, or whatever. But , finding that thing inside of you that really brings you joy, that pure kind of joy, that has nothing to do externally. You're not doing it because your friend Sally, or whatever. Or your friend Jimmy is gonna think you're super cool because you're what it doesn't none doesn't matter. It's all internal I think one of the good things about travel is it reminds you that, you could be in Spain and there's still, there's someone there who's going through the same Sunday scary as you, like you're all human. It's a common element. Even if you speak a different language, eat different foods, dress differently. We all have the same mental processes, right? We're all humans like you said. we look at celebrities or influencers or people that have a bunch of followers wherever like we put them on this pedestal But at the end of the day, they all put their pants on the same way. We're all humans. I wish more of us would see that. And, one thing I would say too is I wish we had more compassion than judgment. We're so quick to judge everyone and everything. And if we just took the step back to have more compassion for the world and maybe try to see things from the other person's perspective versus just trying to put that situation from our lens. I think it could help a lot. mm and I think one of the difficult things about that is that it's hard to be compassionate to somebody else if you judge yourself all the time. Right? That's good. Yeah. I, have a very strong inner critic and one of the things that I'm always talking to people about is stop judging, and then I'm like, could you just take the narrative inside for a little while and stop judging yourself? Giving yourself that internal hug or, I've learned to talk to my, myself a sort of internal narrative that says it's okay. You're all right, sweetheart. Give yourself a hug. You're gonna be fine You know You're doing well today It's fine. If you do that dishwasher cycle twice,, you don't doesn't matter, so that self compassion journey and that's why you know, like When I first started back in 2020, looking at a lot of spiritual stuff, I was reading a lot about self compassion. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever, that's just so shallow. But I realized through doing the work on myself and exploring who I am, it's really very, very deep self compassion because what the mind is filtering, isn't it? It's all the things that you judge yourself on that give you anxiety because you've got this great big screen in front of you that says I need to have 54 masks can be projected out there so people don't see the real me because I'm afraid that the real me would be unacceptable to them actually it's usually a really great big breath of fresh air when we see the authentic version of a person because we're like There we go, that's a real human being, they're not pretending to be anybody. What you see is what you get. Yeah, I had this thought come to me yesterday as I was walking the beach and it was me being me and you being you. And what I mean by that is from a relationship standpoint, the best relationships, in my opinion, are when I'm just being me, and the other person is just being them, and there's an effortless flow, it's natural, there's no awkward silence, maybe we don't talk for X amount of minutes, but that doesn't matter because we're just in that like same energetic space that is comforting, and we're seeing and hearing and value the other person for exactly who they are. Like , that to me is the ultimate versus the societal nature of everything is being judged 24 7 and we're wearing all these masks. And so it's like we've gotten further and further away from just the genuine, authentic. Nature of human connection, Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And, I noticed that on LinkedIn, for example, you post a lot of beach, , images for people just to take a moment and to switch out and to just take a pause because, , you can go onto social media for work, and just go, how do I need to interact? Click like, yes, read that article, write, share that post my own. So yours is a breath of fresh air in that, Come have a look at CT's feet and it's like, beach, ah, I can hear the sounds, I can see the waves. Do you know what I mean? And it's, LinkedIn to, just for yourself and being compassionate for yourself and saying, you know what, you've been doing stuff for 45 minutes on LinkedIn, now just stop for two and give yourself permission to breathe, yeah? correct? Yeah, I'm trying to break that scrolling cycle where we're all just scrolling and scrolling, scrolling, tapping, swiping and all that stuff, regardless of what platform you're on. The goal for that company is to keep you on the app. And so trying to, in those posts that you're referencing, I've take them all as with the hashtag s P X now. And that's let's be here right now. Let's reset. Let's pause and reset. And so just a seven seconds. Your mind is crazy. You have to do nothing. You don't have to do anything right now. Just be here now. That kind of thing. To really try to break up the cycle that everybody is in and the same kind of content that everybody's seeing. And then you're comparing yourself at all. This person just put out all these videos. Oh my gosh, I need to start doing videos. Oh, they have so many followers. Oh, I'm behind. Even though you're doing this amazing, you have this amazing business or you have this amazing career on paper, but you're still like, we're all just comparing, comparing, comparing, comparing. And then the lie is we're comparing our own lives to everybody's highlight reels. And so just always remind yourself of that when you're on social, cause it's just, it's not, it's not apples to apples. Yeah, that's right. And the other thing, , like I have people who are friends who work from home and their companies monitor their computer. so every time their hands are not on the keyboard, it logs it as a, inactive moment, when they take a toilet break or whatever, at least if they're on LinkedIn and they watch your post, they can go here's seven seconds to myself and I deserve it because I need mental refreshment. And I need to be cognitively in tune with my work. So, seven seconds, the computer can clog that I'm on LinkedIn and I'm doing something, but at least I'm being compassionate and going, my brain needs a break. It's a bit tired now. So, you know, that, that, that is helpful as well. And, do you use the beach a lot? You live near the beach. You're in Florida. You said. Yeah, yeah, I live near the beach and , I moved here a couple of years ago just based on intuition of I, I feel called to the water. I feel like I was called to the water many years prior but, , it just worked its way out at that particular time but I was very intentional to live somewhere that I could make that a daily or weekly habit. And to be honest with you, I now feel even more purpose with it because creating that con to create that content, I think that might be why. Because I'll tell you that before, before I moved here, the thought was I was going to find my future wife and three best friends in the first three days of moving here. And that, that never transpired. So I'm still searching for her. And, so maybe this is the reasoning why I was moving here to be close to the beach and, helping people to reset. You never know, you may end up getting that dog and you may end up stumbling over her on the beach when you're walking the dog. They do say that dogs are female magnets, so maybe the dog is going to come first. So is there anything else that you would like to invite people to do? I know that you have got a weekly newsletter called Soulful Sundays. Yes, I would love for any of the listeners or people watching out there. If anything that we talked about resonates, love to have you on board. Yeah. It's called the, soulful Sundays and, , it's your weekly reset and pause. You may not be on LinkedIn or may not be active on there. So it's a good way to, to just stay in tune with what I have going on. I'm always just trying to help people to live more mindfully , and just simple, simple ways to do that. The feedback that I've gotten has been great and it's all, people are always talking about just like simple, it's accessible, , it doesn't matter what kind of job or career I'm doing , or I'm retired, whatever. I always tell people I could work somebody that's 25 the same as somebody that's 75 like it doesn't, age is just number in that way. Just it's agnostic. I've enjoyed putting it out there and, , and then LinkedIn as well. We can, I can give you some links to put in the show notes, but I'm very active on LinkedIn. And, looking to continue to grow that as time goes on. But, , if you want to check on anything else, the mindful SPX. com is the best spot, a bunch of, resources there as well. And, you can sign up for the newsletter right there, top right corner. Okay, brilliant. Thank you. And for people who are wondering, his newsletter, an open rate of 90 percent and the industry standard for a newsletter is about 30 or less. So obviously there's some good content in there because, it's hard to get people to open newsletters. That's why I don't have one. I used to have a newsletter and, I would get there. Oh yeah, you've got a 30%. open rate. That's great. That's industry standard. And I'm like, I'm doing what for 30 percent of these people to open it. And I gave it away. So if you're getting a 90 percent open rate, there must be some good content in there. So well done. Thank you. Thank you. and thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I really appreciate it. And, we look forward to having a chat again sometime in the future.