Jesus Appeared to Her at Age Three: Unity Consciousness, Divine Love & Energy Healing with Dame Sandra Biskind

Jesus appeared to her at age three — and told her she came to remind people they are love.

In this episode, Katische Haberfield interviews Dame Sandra Biskind about childhood visitation experiences, unity consciousness during a life-threatening medical crisis, reincarnation, karmic soul agreements, and frequency-based energy healing.

At age three, Dame Sandra describes an entity identifying as Jesus appearing at her bedside. Years later, during a medical emergency at 18, she entered a full unity consciousness state where she experienced all beings as herself.

Inside this episode:

• Childhood Jesus visitation and spiritual calling
• Unity consciousness during medical crisis
• Reincarnation and soul agreements
• Ego mind vs true self
• Maintaining divine love during illness
• Compassion through suffering
• Energy healing and frequency technology
• Sustaining high-frequency consciousness in daily life

This episode is for listeners exploring spiritual awakening, unity consciousness, reincarnation, divine love, and practical energy-based transformation.

Dame Sandra Biskind is a global visionary and thought leader, and international speaker, transformational mentor and #1bestselling author of four books. She was knighted in 2017 for her work to help end suffering.

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At the age of three, I had an entity appear at my bed unlike your negative entities. This man was so profound. I thought he was gonna blow the roof off the house. He told me his name was Jesus. And of course I was in a home that didn't know what that was. We weren't religious on any level. And he said to me, "Sandra, You are a child of God and you are love, and you have come here to remind people that is who they are". Welcome to the Infinite Life. Your host Katische Haberfield. This week I am privileged to have a very special guest, and her name is Dame Sandra Biskind. Now I'm gonna read you her profile and then I'm going to explain to you how her energy entered my world. So Dame Sandra Biskind offers a rare combination of business savvy, transformational leadership and soul enrichment with her down to earth wisdom. Coupled with her multi-dimensional gifts, she shares profound sustainable shifts focused on enlightenment. Sandra is committed to working with leaders who are passionate about attaining the next level of enlightened success and making a global impact known for solving unsolvable problems. Jack Canfield said. She's a profound healer, trainer, speaker, and author who does some incredible transformational work. I've experienced her work and I found it truly life changing. So much I had her work with my entire staff with magical results. She has an amazing ability to shift energy and remove unconscious blocks on a very deep level. Her unconditional love, joy, and radiance fills the room. the real deal, and I highly recommend her and her work. And Jack was the co-author of Chicken Soup for the Soul Series and the Success Principles. is a global visionary and a thought leader and an international speaker transformational mentor, and number one bestselling author of four books. She was knighted in 2017 for her work to help end suffering. Dame Sandra, thank you for coming on the podcast. Oh, thank you, Katische. It's just such an honor to be here with you and your audience. Thank you. What was really interesting is that I forgot to press record and I'm gonna admit to this because this is an interesting thing. I haven't actually spoken to you for a couple of years and one of the things that I posted this week on social media was a clip of another person that I've interviewed for this season on love. And he's a Swami in the Bhakti Marga Hindu tradition. And I started off being very nervous around his energy as well. And I said to myself, I'll check the recording. And I actually was recording and then we made a little joke about how when he forgot to press record. And so I started talking this episode and I forgot to press record. and what I then just got a flash, an acknowledgement from Spirit as I was reading your profile was that your energy was already removing that template of forgetting to record from my energy field, so it won't happen again. So thank you for that. I You are welcome. You came into my world through Facebook, through your weekly meditation sessions session, I remember that was your energy and understanding energy and that of your husband Daniel was very new to me. I didn't understand how energetics worked. I always thought that you had to be in the same room as somebody to feel their energy. I didn't understand how you could do a meditation and send that energy out to the world. And I also didn't know a number of things including that when you participated in an energy healing meditation that you would see the colors behind your eyes, changing and shifting as you healed different beliefs that were in what I would call the chakra systems. So thank you for that. That was very eyeopening. You're welcome. It's really opening up the third eye center, which is your Pineal gland, and once that's opened, there's a level of joy and love that you'll, you won't experience without that being opened. Absolutely. Absolutely. And the second thing that I experienced with you and DanielI was in the middle of the night having your presence at the end of my bed. I remember being incredulous about this because the only things that I'd ever experienced in the middle of the night around my bed were ghosts and negative entities. And so the energy of love was unfamiliar to me in the middle of the night. As a child, I always grew up being very aware of nasty things around me and not having human beings understand. The level of fear that was in my life. and to then be, say to you, Sandra, I think you are at the end of my bed and I could smell your perfume and then describe it. And you say yes was like a whole new revelation to me. Yeah. And this is the thing, Katische we promise our students that no matter what they're going through, if they need us, we will bilocate into their world. And and I have been doing this for decades. I, do remember at least. I think 40 years ago my daddy knocking on my door and saying to me, I think you need me. And I'm going, yeah, why? And he said, oh, because you appeared at the end of my bed at four o'clock this morning, so I figured you must need me. And I said sweetheart, I actually don't, but let's come in because obviously I was there for you. And then I was able to work with him on what it was that he needed. So yeah, bilocating to where people need us and want us is very normal for us. And I've never heard of that before. And I was wondering, did you come into this incarnation with that awareness that you were able to do that, or was that a process of your development over your lifetime? Yeah, look, it was obviously a process of of tapping into what I had brought in because I came here in this specific lifetime to do very specific things. And at the age of three, I had an entity appear at my bed. Unlike your negative entities this. Man was so profound. I thought he was gonna blow the roof off the house. He told me his name was Jesus. And of course I was in a home that didn't know what that was. We weren't religious on any level. And he said to me, Sandra. You are a child of God and you are love, and you have come here to remind people that is who they are. That was a very profound sentence for a 3-year-old. And I do remember going to my mom and saying what does Jesus talk to you about when you go to bed at night? And she looked at me like in shock because obviously we had never, she didn't know where I got that name from at all. And, she regrouped very quickly and said what does he talk to you about? And then I told her, and it was very interesting 'cause I said, look I'm gonna be a priest. And she said, no, darling, a priest is Catholic and a man, and you are neither of those things. I didn't know what Catholic was, but I knew I wasn't a man. So the next day I went back to her and said, okay. I'll be a nun.'cause I thought nuns were, women. And she said, darling, don't you wanna get married and have babies? I go, yes. She said you can't do that if you're a nun. And I remember, you know how three year olds can do this, put my hands on my hips and looked up her and said, I don't you worry about a thing, mommy. When I get older I will work for God. And that was it. That was the whole premise of my life because I had come here to do that. Yeah. Wow. Wow. And so now I know how that energy was connected to me through Facebook to find you was because my main person who I know that you're not allowed to call it, so as a spirit guide. My main guide in this lifetime has been Jesus. That was the, figure that has always appeared to me when I closed my eyes. And that was incidentally somebody who I had to actually do a lot of deep work with to move from a particular lifetime in his incarnation when we were incarnated together Where I suffered horrendous guilt, for the actions that were taken against him as Jesus Christ of Nazareth. And I, my mind showed in, showed to me as having to go through the eye of the dragon to sit on the edge of the world. And I literally saw myself sitting on the edge of the world with Jesus having a discussion about. Did I put him on the cross myself? No. Did I put the thorn of crowns on his head? No. Did I nail the hand? The nails in his hand? No. Then I didn't kill him. I do not need to continue to punish myself, was a major thing for me to then be able to move forward and then now be able to feel and interact. With his consciousness in other ways, but now that has also come through now as ah, okay, he sent me to you. There you go. Yeah, for sure. And the majority of people that I work with have this connection to divinity, right? And Jesus being the. One of the most divine beings ever. And by the way, even if you had done all of those things and he had have said yes, it would only have come with a yes with. Profound. Love that when you heard the yes and the love behind it, you would not have felt guilt. And that's the thing that we need to know because there are people now who did do all of those things. And I remember when I was in India, I was, talking with an enlightened guru and I was saying about my connection with Jesus. And as I was saying that a man walked past his door that I saw through the glass, and I went like this. Oh. And he looked at me and he said, oh. I said, oh, what? And he said, now I know why you did that. He said, that man was Pontius pilot, and I had a visceral experience to just seeing this person walk past the door, not knowing why. And so it's really important for people to understand that you're gonna meet people and cats, you're gonna meet people and they're going to be. Somebody that you've incarnated within the river of souls that we come through with, right? And so that's I'm just gonna put Max outside 'cause he's just gonna jump all over me. Hang on. okay. We are waiting for the cat to get exile at the moment. Sorry, It's all right. So what I was gonna say was that, that you meet people and you can have an experience of absolutely falling madly in love with them in the moment. Or you can go, whoa, I don't wanna know about this energy field. I'm not sure. And of course all of this past life. Remembrance, even though we don't realize it, we are remembering the lifetimes and the events, emotions and decisions that we've made with that particular person. And so what I've found, and I think you know this 'cause you did a three day weekend with me in Melbourne. And what I've found over the 40 years plus of doing this work is that once we go back in and we discover those events, emotions and decisions we can on a quantum level, change them. So quickly that you can actually change your relationships because I know this is gonna sound strange, but maybe not to your audience, but our past lives absolutely can mess up so many things and that's why it's important to do the work around them. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So what I wanted to ask you about today is the various ways that you have experienced that you have found profoundly changing for yourself and others. This infinite love, this divine love, and then of course, human love. Those profound moments where you've experienced love in your own difficult moments or your client's difficult moments. Just some examples or stories of things that have stepped out for you. Yeah. Beautiful. Ever since I was a child, love has been the thing that's catalyzed me. Like my auntie said to me the other day, oh, as a kid you were crying all the time. No matter who you met, no matter what was going on, you were the one that was crying. The only kid. And I'm going, yeah, because my heart was so overwhelmed with love for everybody that, that love brought up these human emotions. But I, think my first full enlightenment experience was at the age of 18, where I was in the middle of my HSC exams, which in Australia we know what that is, the, yeah. And my right ovary burst and I was, I started dying. And so I was taken to hospital and they couldn't find a surgeon for nine hours. So really, I was practically gone. By the time the surgeon came in and I was in a full enlightenment awakened state. I didn't know it at the time, but I was one with my mother crying in the hallway. Every other patient in the hospital, all the nurses and doctors there was no one That wasn't me. I was just, it was just, oh, here I am again. There I am. Look what I'm doing. Look what I'm saying. It was the most profound experience of oneness and and understanding that. It didn't matter who or what was happening to me. I was going on in all of these people I was carrying on. So when the surgeon came in and he was a very silly man and he, looked at my stomach and I was 18, he said, oh, I hate to cut up, open this beautiful stomach. And I like. I'm like what? Anyway, I said to him don't, I'm happy where I am. I was actually really happy knowing that I was dying in this beautiful experience of absolute profound love and oneness. It was my first time I'd ever really experienced love to that depth, and then my mother almost started screaming and I was 18, so I could have made that decision, but I thought, no, I'll have this surgery for her. I loved her and I knew I wasn't gonna wake up out of it'cause I was practically gone. And I did wake up out of it in a trashed out, painful body. And I was so upset because that feeling of oneness and love had just disappeared in the body that was trying to survive what it had just been through. So that, was a. One of the very first experiences of understanding that we are all one, and in that oneness, we are all love because you can't know yourself as another being and not love them, it's just impossible. I think another story was. I was sitting at the lights and I was looking over at the the walkway and this little kid was running across the road and behind him there was this young woman striding across with long red hair coming out the back. And behind her was a little old man, with a walker hunched over. And I looked at them and I was them. I'm, I was like. There I am. I'm running. I'm striding, I'm shuffling. And it was just all me again, and the profound lover. I just wanted to get out of the car and go up and hold them like, because I love them so much. And this has just been my experience of life, is that I can't meet somebody without loving them. Now I, that doesn't mean I don't like. I don't meet people that I don't like. I do meet people that I don't like, or I should say I don't like. The way they show up in the world, right? So that's a bit different, isn't it? And so that these experience of, love have been very deep and very profound. And what I'm going through now at the moment, eSSH with a very, sick husband, like Daniel has multiple myeloma cancer. Parkinson's and he's in the middle of treatment that is knocking him around so badly. I think the treatment will kill him. We've gotta, I've gotta stop it somehow. But I remember one night he had his back to me and I just put my hand on his shoulder and I felt, everything ripple underneath my hand. Like I felt the pain and he was asleep. Even in his sleep. The pain was rippling through his body and. It was like compassion exploded in my mind and my heart. I, my, I've always thought I was a compassionate person, but I had no idea what this was. It was, oh, the level of compassion I had for him, and then everybody else who was suffering just overwhelmed me completely. Compassion and love I have come to understand is, are really two of the same things. Love encompasses so many emotional realities because love isn't an emotion. No. is an energy, and it's the most powerful energy in the cosmos. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's very hard when we have someone in our life who is unwell. And sometimes we can get back stuck into this, oh, whoa. Woe is me. Why is this happening to me? Like we know that our loved one, like my father was very sick with cancer too. And we think, why I need this person in my life? Why, is this happening to me? And you can, you need to learn to feel that self-compassion for yourself. That's one of the things that has been big on my journey, has been trying to understand. Because I have spent the last five years being a Ghost Rescue medium and helping cross across some really so convicted criminals who were executed for their crimes that were located and did not move from jail that are nearby me. And at times it has been overwhelming for me. And why me go why, do I have to do this work? And the answer was because you have these skills, because it helps with your own karma and because it teaches you compassion for all human beings. Because at the end of the day, they made a decision, which led to a. Action in their life. It does not define their soul, but it did define their incarnation, and there is wisdom in that as well. So it's compassion and action is also very difficult skill that we need to learn to master for ourselves as well as others. But I know that your skills, when you met Daniel, you, the two of you, magnified each other through the love union that you. Yeah it, was a very interesting story. I was, I was doing a meditation and channeling evening in Auckland. So I'd gone to New Zealand to work and my manager came in one day and said, oh, this American gentleman is coming tonight. And I thought, okay. And I was sitting up at the kitchen bench waiting for the whole night to start before people arrived and I thought, this will be interesting. And I got. He's for me. You're gonna marry him. And I went oh no. God, you say jump. And I say, how high? And this is too high. I'm not going to leave my house, my car, my cat, my business, my family and my boyfriend in Australia to marry a man I've never met and move to New Zealand or anywhere else. And he walked in and I thought, oh God, you've made such a bad mistake. He'd, been on a vague and diet, he was so skinny. His hair stood up like Dagwood. He had glasses on an inch thick. Not really, but and and I'm going no, And I. I just did the night, tried to ignore him, and at the end of the night, I just went up to him and said, hi, because that's what you do. And the next night Rob invited my manager, invited him to dinner, and then I got, oh, so he's gonna ask you to marry him tonight? I'm going no, this cannot be right. Anyway, he did. He said, I wanna take you home and look after you for the rest of your life. And I was like. I said, Tim, that's the best marriage proposal I've ever had. That was really coming from a place of love, right? Like you don't wanna do that to somebody you don't love. And, three weeks later we were married. I kicked and bucked and screamed and didn't wanna do this. And then, but the thing is, when God puts people together, it was like a one of those relationships that it was a destined relationship for so many reasons, and I didn't know this, but. Daniel had been married for 20 years and he was in what he called a dysfunctional marriage, and he used to, every morning when he was meditating and praying, he used to say, God, I'm giving thanks for your perfect divine love relationship for me. He said he would. This is very important for everybody, by the way, who doesn't have a relationship, and he would say. He said, I said it as though I already had it. This is manifestation 1 0 1. I've got my God's perfect divine love relationship for me. It doesn't matter who she's what color, creed, anything. Your perfect love relationship for me is great. And one day, about a year into this, he did say being a man, he said, God, if she looks all right, that would be good too. And it was like, okay. But for him, he understood that led to his separation, to his divorce and to meeting me, and he knew that I was. God's perfect divine love relationship for him. He's never wavered on that. He's always known it, it took me longer'cause I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna make the changes and do do this thing. And plus I'd already been in a marriage of seven years from 20 to 27. I was 45 at this stage and I did not wanna get married again. I had my life worked out. It was great. However when God says jump, we are going to say how high. And that's the, that's how love can make things happen. That even when you don't want them to happen, love can triumph. And yeah, it was 27 years later, we're still together and much more in love than ever before. And this illness. And Kish, I do have to say this'cause you've worked with both of us, so you know how we work together. If we weren't on this spiritual journey and had the enlightened perspective that we had, and if we weren't able to stay neutral to what is going on, I don't know how people can actually get through this without this level of understanding of joy and of love, because that's the thing that is keeping us. Hopeful it's keeping us together. It's, actually growing the love. Now I know that might sound weird because I've known a lot of people that go through this and they end up, can't stand the situation or their partner or whatever, but for us it's the opposite. The love is expanding every single day and we are getting a bit silly with it because, and I will if you, don't mind me sharing this for, a long time, Daniel, I'd asked Daniel, how are you feeling? I don't know. What would you like? I don't know, because in that state that he's been in and all the drugs he's been on, he's just been in a non-coherent state and one day I was looking at the cats and the kittens on Instagram because I'm a massive cat person, and there was this little AI. Ginger kitten that came on and the woman said to the kitten, what would you like? I don't know. How are you feeling? I don't know, da I don't know. And I'm going, oh, that's Daniel. This kitten is Daniel. And and then she said what do you want? And he said, I don't know. I'm grumpy. And she said, why are you grumpy? And he said.'cause I want chocolate. And Daniel's a chocoholic, right? So I just took this to Daniel. I said, Daniel, this is, you have a look. He could not stop laughing. And he said to me, yeah, it is me, isn't it? And now we've got kitten talk. So just so you know, if you guys are going through a really rough time Meow means I love you. Three meows in your own means I love you. And meow is just, hello. And. When we wake up in the morning, we look at each other and he goes, wow, meow.'cause he's so thrilled to be beside me. And I know this is gonna sound crazy and very silly, but when you are in a really rough situation, find what works for you to bring you joy. Like when we do that, we can't stop smiling. And so there's a lot of things that we do to bring the joy and the love. Into expansion, into alignment with who we are. And so I'm just giving you a little bit of a heads up. I'm, I hope there'll be a lot of people. Meow, meowing around the world right now. And it's interesting 'cause it brings back to your theme of cats anyway in Codebreaker, right? Your book. Oh, exactly. That's right. Ego Puppy is the part of us that really can piddle in purple over us because it's our ego mind. It wants to keep us small. Ego mind doesn't really want us in love. And that's because we've had so many lifetimes where we've been hurt by love. And so the ego mind's going no, we won't do that. Let's not go there because we know you're gonna get hurt or abandoned or left behind. And so the ego mind has control. But yeah, when you are not in the ego mind, you can then pursue your true self. And we look at the true self as it can be a cat, it can be whatever, but it's it's really fun to look at ways to discover where you are at in the world. Are you operating out of your ego or are you operating out of your true self? And you know the difference because your true self is always in a place of love, wisdom, divinity, and joy. Whereas the ego mind is not in that place all the time. No. That's right. Yep. You speak a lot about coming back to neutrality if you're experiencing the, negative to, reset. Yeah the reset is so important and you definitely experienced that in those three days. I was really so proud of you, sweetheart, and it was, it's very much this. We're gonna stay strong. When we're neutral, we're gonna go weak and into a place where we're triggered when we're not. So we, you have to ask yourself, am I being triggered or am I trigger free? Now, if you're being triggered, the exciting thing about that is you've probably got an unconscious program. Running your life. Now, what's really important, and most people don't realize, is that the unconscious mind is running our lives more than 95% of the time. That means that you think something is going on. You think that you're being triggered by this, but the unconscious mind's going. Oh no. It's over here. This is the problem, and I think that's why Jack Canfield and a few of the other transformational leaders that I work with say that I'm the woman who solves seemingly unsolvable problems because I never, ever work in the conscious mind. I'm not interested in the story. I'm only interested in what's behind the story, which we have brought through from our ancestors. This lifetime and other lifetimes. And then once we get to the core event, emotion decision, it's easy to neutralize it. And being neutral means being strong, right? I love it when people go I, test people when I'm talking to them all the time. Are you weak or are you strong? And I just say to people, don't let your ego get in the way. When I say, oh, you go weak when you say that.'cause people don't like to think that they're weak. It's not about that. It's about the excitement of finding the program that is running everything. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. One of the things that I also found really interesting is that through this journey of helping people with their ego and with their emotions, you discovered a form of technology, which I believe you're wearing on your chest right now, Yes. because it looks a little different than last time I saw you. They're much more sparkly like a diamond now. I, definitely am a girl, so I'm not gonna have them looking so completely boring to what they were. You're right, that for 40 plus years I've been creating programs that are shifting people into living a more energy s. A stronger energy experience, right? And so I would do the do what I do. And then I was introduced to the life wave energy patch, tech technology. And I was finding that I would be putting these patches on people and within. Literally a nanosecond. They would go to make the same shift or feel the same way energetically. Then after I'd spent time with them doing a correction and it was like, oh, hang on a minute. What is this? Because there's a lot of skepticism around putting a little sticker on your body with nothing in it. Like nothing goes into the body. There's no drugs, chemicals. The only thing that goes into the. Body, which is similar to what I do well at the same experience, is information. So it sends your own light and energy back to the brain with information telling the brain, oh, hang on let's, change this now. You need help here. You are not the body has been designed in a way that is so perfect. The body has been designed to self-heal, but we live in such a toxic world. With so many toxic emotions that degrade our energy field, the amount of love we can experience, our alignment to source. So what these are doing is they're realigning us to source energy, divine energy, where the body goes. Oh yeah, I remember this. I can do this. I can elevate glutathione, I can elevate kindin. Oh, I can do these things and the body does it. So when we are changing cellular structure on that deep energy level, for me, I'm like, oh I, I. I say to all of my clients, Hey, try them just because they're going, they can't take me home, but they can take these home. Yeah, that's. And what I love is that the amount of miracles that I'm having. With the two lots of work, like right now I'm working on a program where I'm gonna do an eight week program that will combine the corrections that I do with the platinum process that you've been through and the patches and the chakra energy system and a whole lot of other things so that people can make a shift every single week for eight weeks, but by the end of the eight weeks, they're now showing up in a totally different frequency, and they can sustain it. They can sustain it with what they've learned. They can sustain it with the patches because I think it's really important for transformation. A lot of people say that and they go to a weekend and they feel a transformation, but it's not sustainable. So sustainable transformation, being able to sustain a frequency that manifests the life that you want. Is really important. And to do that you need to live as a very high frequency energy being. That's how people are attracted to you and you've obviously living as a high frequency, energy being, otherwise people wouldn't be attracted to you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And what's really important of what you're saying is it's that integration into daily life because yes, we do get triggered by other people. We've gotta come back to the naturality and then the patch technology that you worked with says to, to you this is my way of putting it. I'm having a little wobble right now. Yes. I don't have access to my mentors. Please help me in this moment. Let me apply this technology. It's just reflecting my own light anyway, and I'm correcting the signal. So let me be, come back to peaceful state. That's how I would Katische, you've put that in a way that I've never heard before. How brilliant. Thank you. Because I know when I do my talks and everything, I bring people on stage with me. I give them a correction, and everybody can just see the shoulders drop. They take a deep breath, their body's already like this, and then when we go into another place, I can put a patch on them and they'll almost start crying in relief because they go into that place that you just described. It's oh, I don't have to carry that around with me anymore. One experience was so beautiful. I was at an expo and this woman came up to me and she said, I've had the worst experience ever. She said to me, it's so bad. It's so bad. I can't even tell you how bad it is. She went on like that for five minutes. I said okay, Would you like me to give you a patch? Yes, but I need you to know it's really bad. And I said, okay. And I finally got her to just take a deep breath and I put a patch on her and she looked at me and she started crying and she said, oh but I, it was bad. I can't find it anymore but it was the worst thing ever. Now I don't even know what it was. And Right. In an instant, she has been relieved of what had been torturing her for her whole life. And obviously for me, as somebody who came to this world to help end suffering, there's no way I could not start to share this. It's like a moral obligation to share a technology that that does this. And that's why I, even in my seventies now, I'm still doing the work that I do and about to create a program where I say, okay, everybody come here. I wanna give you this. I want you guys to be able to do exactly what I do and become platinum coaches and certified platinum coaches because there's only so many more years I'm gonna be doing this. But it's a body of work that is, has that, it's. It's stayed the test of time, right? People who've worked with me for decades ago, and even Jack, like Jack Canfield will still call me and say, Hey, I'm going through this. What do you think? And I know that this work is as profound a body of work is anything on the planet. And so combine that with this genius who is David Schmidt? By the way? David Schmidt was Nicola Tesla in a past life. Isn't this don't you, love it when you do the past life? Yeah. Actually think about this. I remember talking to you about that and, we said I think he was Tesla. Yeah. It's been confirmed for me and because I, I said to him, he's become a good friend. And I said, David, who's your hero in this lifetime? I knew exactly what he was gonna say and he said, oh, that's an interesting question. He said, Nicola Tesler. I said, yes, of course. And because he's already doing what Tesla was doing. And of course now in this time he's expanding on it and making it even more powerful. And and he's still going through a similar thing like somebody who's created a technology like this is gonna get jumped all over and he does. And of course the FDA, you know that something is really, good when the FDA says, you are not allowed to tell people what this does anymore. I'm like, huh, it's got 200 patents worldwide that anyone can look up and see what it does. And he's got that many clinical studies, but they've said, no. If I was to say this, what it does here, and you would've put this out there, it would be a problem. Of course if it was not going out there, I would just tell you. But the thing is that that only just happened when life wave came to this point where it was making over half a billion dollar. Yeah. Half a billion dollars because that many people were having miracles happen and so that many people were buying it. And the drug companies are just they're so greedy, they wanna shut anything down. I know in Australia. They wanna shut home, homeopathy, done all sorts of crazy things. And luckily here in America, that's changing now and things are gonna change and it's gonna get worked out, which is just a godsend for the whole of humanity. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also interesting'cause it parallels to the past life in terms of Tesla Yes, being suppressed anyway. Exactly. Yeah. It, to me it's a clear indication that he's come back to move forward. That, and through that, and that's the trajectory of humanity anyway is that we reincarnate time and time again when an idea is not right the first time, and we are still, it's still in our soul path. We come back the second time or the third time and we perfect the communication. Things have changed. We bring in others with us. I I know that I have in my own experience, spent a lot of time looking at, what I would call negative experiences of, reincarnation, but what I've learned is that you can focus on the positive and see the same thing in a different light, and you'll realize the reason why that was so important to your soul and what it was that you were trying to shift or break down in humanity. And that we are trying to get to that place of coexisting together to allow people with different belief systems to use both and, or do you know what I mean? Yeah. homeo, homeo, I can't even say it. Homeopathy. Yeah. Essential oils, patches, reiki can coexist alongside medical surgery and medical specialists and drug companies. It's where the soul is and where that incarnation is at in that point in time, should all be allowed, the option to choose what resonates with them. Yeah. I can see how that is really important for his soul because it's okay, we have to come up against it again, but this time we are moving it forward and those who are ready to use it will embrace it. That's exactly right. just so I love what you just, I love what you just said. What I find interesting, and I think this is really helpful for people, especially when we're talking love, and that is how do you love somebody with a completely different view to you? How do you love somebody that's on Facebook or wherever, really saying the most horrific things. And the thing is that everybody has done everything. And I say this to all my students, we've all been there, done that. And people don't like that when I say it. But we've all been nasty. We've all been everything. We've all been raped, murdered, we've all done everything. And so to actually go to that place of judgment, come out of love and go to that place of judgment is a bit redundant because it's like thereby the grace of God goes I right. And I think that understanding that if you can maintain this energy field of love, you will have an incarnation that will serve you and it will serve you into the next one. Because your frequency and your consciousness is here, here where the love is right here. And and that frequency and consciousness actually comes through. We are always evolving out of where we've been. Into this newer version of who we are, which I find super exciting. By the way, Katische Daniel and I just besotted with some South Korean TV miniseries at the moment and 'cause I went there last year and I was like, oh, I went there with the patches and they were the most amazing people and so open to past lives and spiritual things and everything. And the, I'm watching one at the moment, which I think you are gonna love. It's called My 19th Life. And. Oh, okay. Yes. So anybody watching if you're interested in past lives and the and how they can get so complicated and everything and in this lifetime, she says, ah this is the problem with reincarnating too soon. And I'm just, Daniel and I are like, oh God, this is so good. So it's a fun Korean one and anything like that you can watch, it does give you a beautiful insight into the reality of how our lives work. And have you, worked, have you read any of Seth's material where there's a book called oh, what is it? Sorry. Just lost it. It'll come to me. But it's really fabulous and it's about. One lifetime where, he comes back in seven different bodies. So you think that you're here in this one body as your soul, but actually you could be on this planet in a few other bodies having other experiences at this "over Soul Seven" it's called. And at about his seven lives. And oh boy, that was an, I read that maybe 45 years ago, however long it was, and it was such an eye-opener for me. It could be a fun one for you to talk about on one of your shows. Yeah. Yeah. It is it's a reality and I have discovered that myself and for clients of dual incarnations, for example, we've decided to play the same role in opposing situations in the one lifetime. I actually had an experience with a a ghost that I crossed over when when she was a plantation owner. She was white in one lifetime and exactly the same time in the same location her soul chose to be the black person. The and the, black person was the worker in the plantation and she, experienced the extreme brutality from her own self. And it was the the plantation owner, the female plantation owner who could not cope with the epigenetic behavioral patterns of her own ancestors. S that caused her to treat the slaves the way she did. and it was she, the plantation owner who did not go to the light and that, that was who I crossed over literally through the energy. But it taught me. confirm for me. Okay, now I understand that it's not only me that has had multiple dual incarnations, but there are other people and it's Yeah. about contracts with other souls to forgive or repeat, but it's about finding the lessons and loving learning to love your own soul. So that's really interesting that you mentioned that. That's very Yeah. And what I love about this conversation is we do make soul agreements via our ego mind, right? And. Those soul agreements, it could be, I'll never love again. No one will ever love me. I'm not gonna be good enough in this lifetime, whatever it is, right? I'm not good enough, by the way, is a really big one. I haven't met many people who haven't got that in their unconscious on some level. And a lot of people feel like they're a fraud even when they're super successful. And for, so for me, it's like undoing the karmic soul agreements, which you were talking about just then. And really just bringing in a brand new agreement. Wow, I am a perfect divine, high frequency being, and I can trust it's safe for me to be in this world. To be seen, to be heard, to be known, and to really get to that point where they're no longer believing in the lies of the soul agreements that they made in another lifetime when they were probably under duress. Or if they like that woman that you helped crossover, she was probably feeling like i'm evil. I'm a bad person. I don't deserve to go home to God like they were all, I don't deserve love. There'll be all those things going on. But because you helped her through that, she probably won't come through with those same programs in this next life. Yeah. And that's the blessing of it, isn't it? isn't it? Yeah. And especially when they're keen to talk to you from the higher perspective, and she brought in a higher self and her mother. we had four sets of confirmation and perspective. It's wow, this is a really privileged insight to be able to see all the forces at play. And how by simply well for me it's about understanding human emotion and for learning to forgive your own self in the moment and bring yourself back to neutrality because I'm like, I literally am coached by ar Archangel Michael. He's remember when you go this time. Straight up with me. Don't look down. Don't look back. No matter who calls out to you this time, straight up with me. Yes, we've practiced it already. We've had a, we had a, we actually had a drill. He's I. are not gonna regret anything this time. Okay. I am like yes, Yeah. And you know what? That's to me is so people understand they did the best they could. yes. Yeah. And it's on, look, it is only the sabotage of the ego mind that is telling people that they're not right. And I. People become abusive for all sorts of reasons. They're scared they're, they've been abused, whatever. But the fact is that all humans really at their core are love, and the majority of them have forgotten it. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. And Sandra do you still do the weekly meditations? Not at the moment, but we are actually on February 20th, I am doing an eight day reset with the meditations, with everything. I'll send you the information so you can give it to your audience. And we are, giving away our meditations via links and things, and I think that I've given you a link to some of those free meditations now for you. Yes. You have given me a link, which I will put in the show notes. Yes. click on Yep. name in the show notes and that will take you straight to that free gift. Yeah. Thank you, Katische. What an honor to be with my soul sister again. You. And I've only, the other book I have was in the ebook format, but. everyone. This is the Codebreaker Journal, which accompanies the Codebreaker book that you can get to work along with Sandra and Daniel and their brilliance. And then obviously you can contact Sandra if you'd like to find out about her sparkly technology. I'll call it that sparkly. Love you sweetheart. Love to everybody. Thank you bless. Namaste bye.