Anchormen Ep31 Holy Week Pt.2 w/ Jim Cross

This is the week most Christians go to church. This and Christmas, but those that do not go to hear the Good News, or Gospel, are missing more than an Easter message. They miss the opportunity to build relationships with Kingdom men and women at the local church. 

This week we finish our conversation with Jim Cross speaking on the subject of Holy Week. Many details in the Gospels are there but most churches skip over details. This week we don't. Let's join Todd, Bob, John and Jim as we discuss some of the very important details that get skipped in many Good Friday and Easter Sunday services.

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SPEAKER_02 0:09

In our walk with God, we often experience moments when our faith is tested. It's in these times that we truly discover what it means to be anchored in faith.

SPEAKER_03 0:19

Our faith is like a sturdy ship anchored in the harbor. It keeps us grounded when the waves of life toss us around. When we lean on God in His Word, we find the strength to persevere and trust in His plans. The anchormen remind us sweetly that Jesus is our anchor, providing stability and assurance in the midst of uncertainty. Together, let's dive deeper into the powerful words that encourage us to hold fast in the faith of Jesus alone and not rely on the good words to gain righteousness.

SPEAKER_04 1:32

So Jesus leaves from the Last Supper and he goes to the Garden of Gethsemane.

SPEAKER_03 1:37

Let's see.

SPEAKER_04 1:42

He goes there to pray.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

You know, one of the things that the significance at the Last Supper, he looks at Judas and he tells him, as and I was listening to this message. He tells Judas, he gave him permission, go. Yeah. Like go. Go do what you must do whatever. Like the like Satan has to get permission from God.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

He gave Satan permission to go and mess with Job.

SPEAKER_04 2:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

He said, You go right ahead because Satan says, Well, I've been like and have you considered my servant Job? And he told him, he says, Go, do whatever you want, but don't you touch him. Don't take his land on him.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Don't take his life. Because he gave him sores. I know he gave him body sores.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

And yeah, oh, he killed his kids? Yeah, yeah. Trashed all his livestock. And the thing that got me about that was his old lady constantly telling Job, well, curse God and die. Now, how was that going to make anything better? Yeah. And but Job still wouldn't listen to her.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

He still worshiped the Lord. No, you're right, he wouldn't. He said he had to go in front of God and say, hey, what about this guy? But you know what? That's what Jesus gave. Judas permission. And then so here, Jesus gives Satan permission to go into Judas and do what you gotta do. So Judas leaves. He sets it all up with the with the with the uh guard. Soldiers. And then Jesus after dinner, what was the last thing he did? He washed your feet at dinner. And then and then he, when they left, he was going to the garden. Now who did he take with the garden with him? All the disciples went in, the apostles went with him, but he took three deeper into the garden. Peter.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Peter, James, and John?

SPEAKER_04 3:49

No, Peter went with them.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:52

Yeah, Peter, I definitely remember. Because they kept falling asleep. Yeah. And he kept saying, you know, I'm I'm in stress here. I need you to stay awake. And then he'd go back and they'd fall asleep again.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

And he was so worried about that, falling into temptation. He did not want that to happen. Yeah. He's telling them to stay awake. To stay awake and pray, right? Yeah. Yeah, so you don't fall into temptation. And what did they do?

SPEAKER_03 4:22

They fell asleep. They fell asleep, yeah. And that was three times they did it.

SPEAKER_04 4:26

Yeah, I was gonna say it was two or three times that he had to was it in the Garden of Gethsemane that Jesus was sweating blood? Yeah. Yeah. So the significance of the reality of what was about to happen was starting to hit pretty hard. Yeah. He was sweating blood.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

Well, he knew that time was getting closer and closer.

SPEAKER_04 4:45

He knew they were coming for him and said, you know, don't fight anyone. Yeah. Why are you treating me like a criminal? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

Take me away. And then they said the gospel said something about a couple hundred guys came to take him. Yeah. They need an army.

SPEAKER_04 5:02

Yeah, I have no army. Yeah. And then that's when Peter cut off the guard's ear and Jesus healed it. Yep. And put his hand on his ear and healed it. He picked it up and healed it.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that guy was somebody's servant, one of them big shot servants. Jesus told somebody, he says, You not know? I could call down legions of soldiers and just trash this place.

SPEAKER_04 5:27

Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

He said, but that ain't what I'm about.

SPEAKER_04 5:30

Yeah, not what I'm supposed to do either.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

And even Satan reminds him when he was in the desert for 40 days, and when the Jesus when Satan came to tempt him, he even says, just jump off this cliff. Your angels, if you're Jesus, your angels will come down and catch you. Keep you from falling. And then what did Jesus say it back to him? He says, Don't put your Lord, your God, you your test. There you go. You got it. You know it. Man.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

So You know when we're talking about that? Yeah. It made me think of a song, and I couldn't think of the song, but I just looked it up, and uh it's the worship song, Death Was Arrested. It talks about here um we're free, free, forever we're free. And then the key line in that is when death was arrested and my life began. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

I don't think I've ever heard that song. I haven't either. Oh, good catch.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

You would have. Who says it? Uh it says uh North Point Worship. Oh, okay. I don't hear that some sort.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

Yeah. Yeah. I don't go to that church. So Gethsemane means oil press. In the garden when where olives were crushed, Jesus was pressed in soul, choosing the Father's will, not to start a law plus grace plan, but to finish redemption. His cup was the suffering he'd bear, so he'd never face wrath.

SPEAKER_04 6:57

He asked his father two or two or three times to take this cup. Take it away from him. Yeah, father take it away.

SPEAKER_03 7:02

Take this mother away. But if it's your will, then I'll do it. Let it be done. Powerful, isn't it? Your will, not my will. Yep. And that's supposed to reference in uh Romans 5.9 and John 19.30. Todd, could you have your phone up? Could you grab your uh grab 5-9? Romans? Romans 5-9? Sure.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Romans 5-9. It says, How much more then, since we have now been justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from wrath?

SPEAKER_03 7:39

His cup was a suffering he'd bear, so we'd never face wrath. Perfect. And in John 19, 30 also, but probably that's the same close to the same thing. Yeah, yeah. So Jesus, Judas comes and greets him with a kiss. Of all things.

SPEAKER_04 7:59

And Jesus says, Why are you coming armed? I'm I'm not I'm not a criminal. I haven't done anything. I'm not gonna resist. Right, right. The other significance was they came at dark in the dark of night. Yeah. You know, so that no one else would see what they were doing, because they knew they were taking him away and they didn't want a crowd to appear, right? Or for there to be some type of you know commotion. Right. So they came and got him at night, knowing that he'd be alone or virtually alone.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

Right. Yep. Before the sun even came up, it was dark out still overnight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

It's when the one guy guard got his ear cut off, too. Yeah, yep. And Jesus said, no more of that.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Peter took out his sword. Put away your sword. Yep. Jesus told Peter, put away your sword. Peter served the blow that cut off the dude's ear. Now imagine if you had your ear cut off and Jesus is a and picks it up and puts it right back on and it's fine. Would you hesitate to take that guy? Did you hesitate to take that guy to torture him? I believe.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

I just think about E Lot will turn me into a chicken.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

I just think about all of these apostles and everybody that were around Jesus the whole time, and they still had no clue what was going on. And still had no clue that he was gonna go up on a cross and be crucified, but Jesus knew it. And um I sort of compare the apostles to the way that unbelievers are in our world right now, where they have no clue and they they just don't get it. You know, yes, there are some people that just have chosen to not wanting to believe for whatever reason, right? But it's it's just hard to understand all the parallels with all the stuff, like where we're living now versus what they went through. Because even in our own lives, as we believe, we have strong faith, there are times that people will waver.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

Reminds me of when at the Last Supper, didn't that's when Peter says, Well, no, I'll never turn my back on you. Yeah. And he says, I'll never deny you. I'll never deny you. I'll never deny you. He told him at the Last Supper. And Jesus said, Yeah. Jesus said, You're gonna deny me three times. And you don't even know it. And he was, yeah, he was embarrassed. And all the other all the other disciples scattered. Except Peter. He's hung around. He went and followed. Yeah. And uh when when they when they came and got him, I don't re recall hearing about any other the other apostles being around.

SPEAKER_04 11:01

No, I think Peter witnessed him be beaten in the in the yard, in the garden.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Yeah. And then when that rooster did crow three times, he realized he'd caught vision, he caught eyes with Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

It's kind of ironic, isn't it, with how Paul has written 13 epistles in the New Testament that he wasn't around. He wasn't around. Isn't that unreal? Yeah, yeah. With what he learned and what was taught.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

And Peter had his three little epistles, and that was it, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

But there's a reason why, again, God had who was supposed to be there to be there.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Yeah. Just like today.

SPEAKER_04 11:40

One of the amazing things about Peter, I mean about Paul, is that you know, we can kind of see ourselves in those shoes, right? We're not sure, we're unbelievers, going through life, kind of trying to figure it all out, and then here we are, 30 men meeting, you know, once a week to know more and to understand more, and to get a better understanding of all of it. And uh, so for God to have downloaded all that information to to Paul, he went from as a Jew beating the believers to joining the believers and leading them, you know, to all the way through to being in jail at the end and and and still writing think about the couple other ones.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

But the timeline when when we're talking about Easter week, when Jesus was crucified, Paul was around. He didn't follow Jesus, he was going after Jews that were following Jesus and trying to persecute him. Yeah. At that about that time.

SPEAKER_04 12:38

And after when they were all swearing that he was real.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

Yeah, yeah. So just think about that timeline when when we're talking about Easter week.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

I had to uh at one point when years ago in this other church, I did uh um uh a piece on the Sanhedrin, and I got to learn so much about that, but it was uh composed of 71 men. There could never be a tie. There could never be uh and uh religious leaders and and made up this group of men, but they pretty much took care of getting Jesus in front of the Romans to show him as uh supposedly a villain, a crook. And then when the festive or when not the festivities, but when things start, Pontius Pilate says, What's his crime? You know, show me on the sheet. Was he a pickpocket? Is he a whatever? Yeah, he's looking for the real. He was gonna turn him loose. Yep. So they take a break, and Pilate is back in his house, a living room, whatever, and his wife told him, Don't have anything to do with this man. I had a dream about him. And that, to me, I hear stuff like that coming out of the Bible. And you know, there's I look at it as a lot more believers around than what we're aware of. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

Well, a lot happened that weekend. A lot happened from the trial to the crucifixion. Yeah, because there's so much significance in everything that happened.

SPEAKER_04 14:43

During the trial, he was he was the option was I want to let him go, and they said, No, no, let him go. And so then they said they opt for another person, it's for Rabbas, right? And they and and they said, Do you want to let him go or let him go? And they picked up.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

There's significance just in that, too. Very much significance just in that.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Yeah, that he was a substitutionary, he was a sinner, he had committed crimes, right, and Jesus took the penalty for him.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

And have you ever seen that live passion playing group?

SPEAKER_03 15:10

Yeah, seen it.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

So in Luke 23, there's a really cool thing that um stands out to me. So it says, when Herod saw Jesus, he was greatly pleased, because for a long time he had been wanting to see him. Because obviously he's heard about him. It says, and it says from what he had heard about him. He hoped to see him perform a sign of some sort. He plied him with many questions, but Jesus gave him no answer. The chief priests and the teachers of the law were standing there, vehement vehemently accusing him. Here's the part that is is kind of like I think like I've never heard before and that is always brushed over. It says, Then Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked him, dressing him in an elegant robe. They sent him back to Pilate. That day Herod and Pilate became friends. Before this they had been enemies. So in all this mess. It's a political thing. Yeah. It was a political thing. Yeah. Wow. Two enemies, all of a sudden now they're buddies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Yeah. And Herod ended up telling Pilate to take care of your own dirty laundry. Don't send him back to the world.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Yeah, and then what did Pilate do? Pilate washed his hands. Yep. I don't want nothing to do with this. Yep, just like a politician. Yeah, yeah. Just like a politician. And he turned them over to the people, and the people are the ones that crucified him.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Yeah. And see, the thing about that was the Jews had Jesus in front of Pilate because it was against their law for them to kill him. They couldn't kill him. They had to have somebody else do it.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Guys, we're going to have to wrap it up here. Maybe next week we can finish the rest of the finish up. We can talk about Easter a little bit more and finish up. Yeah, but this has been excellent. Jim, thank you for joining us. Appreciate it all. Thank you. And Bob, thanks for coming. And Bob and Todd, thanks for all. Glad we're all here. No problem. Great. And uh everybody out there have a hope you had a good Easter. Talk at you later.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

So you're gonna be like, oh yeah. No, never heard it. Oh, I love this song. This might be good for us to sing.

SPEAKER_03 18:26

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