About Parenting An ADHD Firecracker Without Losing Your Mind with Betsy Mosley

What happens when a quiet, detail-loving mom raises an extroverted sparkplug who can’t sit still, and then finds herself called to special education? We open up about parenting an ADHD daughter, learning to release control, and discovering how grace and truth can live side by side without watering each other down. Betsy Brown-Mosley walks us through her unexpected path from dance teacher to banker to special ed, and how each stop taught her something essential: lead with empathy, live in the gray, and celebrate the small steps that add up to real change.

Together we unpack the tension parents feel when kids don’t fit the mold, and why labels like ADHD can guide support without defining a child’s ceiling. Betsy shares practical strategies from the classroom—chunking tasks, honoring movement needs, coaching self-advocacy—and how those same tools lowered stress at home. We talk about partnering with teachers, choosing when to advocate and when to coach your child to speak up, and using simple rituals to separate truth from lies, like writing down heavy thoughts and tearing them up. Along the way, there are stories of former students who found their lane and thrived, proof that love plus structure can re-route a life.

This conversation is also about calling. Betsy describes the peace that nudged her to quit banking, start subbing, and step into special education where small wins feel like mountains moved. We reflect on how far special ed has come and why its individualized, strengths-first mindset should shape every classroom. If you’re a parent, teacher, or caregiver walking with a high-energy, out-of-the-box kid, you’ll find hope, tools, and a reminder that your work matters more than you know.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:30

And I have a very special guest with me today. She is like my daughter. This is Betsy Brown Mosley. When she was five years old, I met her. I met her when I became best friends with her mom. And we have been best friends for years and years and years. We raised four children each together. So I had four, and her mom had four. And I do not know how in the world I could have raised my four kids without her. I just had to have her friendship. I want you to have a friend that you can talk about things with that will encourage you, not encourage you to gossip or encourage you to get down, but encourage you to get up. So, Betsy, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

So I grew up in Jacksonville and with Denise's kids and all my own friends as well, but we were like family together. Went to college and graduated from Texas State with a dance degree and then taught dance for five years. Then I moved on to the banking industry, which is really random.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

And she was great at it. She was awesome leading. She found her leadership capabilities. Yes, that's true. That's true.

Career Detours And Finding Leadership

SPEAKER_03 1:52

I also learned to live in the gray, uh, working in the banking industry. So that was a good thing. It was a really good thing for me. And then from there I uh went back into education, but to teach in special education, not dance. And that was a totally different shift, and that's where I am right now, and I love it.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

In between there, I got married and had a kid, and so got married to an awesome guy, and they also have a water cup in here in town named Wimberly, uh Blue Jug, which uh had tell me, talk about the water, because even though I love the water and that's all I drink, I don't know how to talk about it. What are you for a minute?

SPEAKER_03 2:31

So it's good water. So we send it through a reverse osmosis process, which cleans the water, and then we run it through minerals to remineralize the water, and that's what makes it the good and what we call the best for you water. So it's yummy, it's healthy, it's good water the way that nature intended. So that's what we try to do is make it as close to what nature intended as possible.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

And it really, I started drinking it, I guess, right after you guys bought the store. And like I cannot drink other water anymore without feeling bad. Okay, so good on that. But today I feel like we're gonna dig in a little deeper to what you're doing now in your career, and maybe we'll back up a little bit when your adult was born and started growing up, and just talk about the synergy between the two of you as she became a little bit more her in her own spirit.

Water Business And Wellness Sidebar

SPEAKER_03 3:31

You know, everything was normal, normal pregnancy, normal birth, all the things were normal. Um, and then once she started to kind of get her own little personality, uh, that became a little harder, more challenging for me. And she's I feel like she's very different from me. She's very much an extrovert. I'm not so much an extrovert. She's social, she wants to be with people all the time. I would much rather be inside, watch a movie, you know, be one-on-one with people. Yeah, yes. Um she's a risk taker, very much so. Which I've learned, I'm learning to let go of that and let her kind of take those risks and learn for herself. Um, my husband, on the other hand, has a very hard time letting her risk anything. Yeah, um, he wants full control.

Parenting Opposites And Risk

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Um and so that's really interesting. So here are two parents that really have had kind of control and their lives have been ordered, and into that life, God called Aubrey's name, sent her and put her in Betsy, and knit her together to come into the earth to do the things he's called her to do. Isn't that interesting that he chose Betsy and Rance? So I think what now that I've raised four kids, that he does that to grow us too. It's not just her growing, but it's stretching you too so much. And we just rejoice when we remember that she was born for purpose, that you were born for purpose. Um I really feel like that understanding makes it so much easier to walk, you know, through these things. But keep going because and she acts like me. And I'm not blood related, but spirit, I'm just telling you. Spirit flows right through her the her youngest sister, acts like me.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

So and so anyway, she um it was challenging just because I felt like she was so different. So I really feel like that was God was pushing me to learn well, plenty of times where I felt like I was the worst mom and wasn't doing anything right. And I do go to a local church, and I've been able to meet with women within the church to help me realize that those are lies, you know, from the devil. Those are not that's not how God sees me, and God gave me Aubrey for reasons. So and we've worked through so many things. We've she's been to counseling, I've been to counseling, and we've worked, you know, to to do the best for her and for us, and um, and not that anything's wrong, it was just a challenge, and so I was trying to figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

She was trying Has she been like given a label with learning?

SPEAKER_03 6:29

She was diagnosed with ADHD, and um, within the diagnosis, the doctor said there was an emphasis on the H, which is the hyperactivity, which is like, because I'm very not hyper in any way, shape, or form. So um, and really and truly kind of fast-forwarding into my position where I am now, it's been interesting. Um, because of what I do now, I've been able to look back and say, oh, uh, you know, some of this was um like these tendencies that I didn't even realize. And now I'm learning like how to support her, um, different techniques to try, you know, and so it's been really interesting.

Purpose, Stretching, And Faith

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Because the thing is when we raise them up, we're raising them to harness the gifts God's put into us. Nobody knew that when I was young. Um, so I kind of had to run wild and hit a lot of walls, but we don't want Aubrey to hit a lot of walls or all the children that Betsy's working with now. Um she's there to help them have the tools and their families to have the tools to grow them up to be the best they can be. All of us want that for our children, but God wants it more than us. So he I love how he's led you through teaching dance, and I remember how frustrated you'd get with that. Like those girls would not do what you want them to do. And then if their parents came in, oh my gosh, that was and I was the same way with teaching. Like I loved my kids. I didn't have a problem with them being rebellious with me. Yeah, but I really it was like the tipping point for me if the parents wanted to gripe because their kids were trying to get away with doing nothing. Yes, it drove me crazy.

unknown 8:23

Yep.

Labels, ADHD, And Support

SPEAKER_01 8:24

100%. So I remember that, but even that was for both of us to learn more about how to manage that and how to equip parents better, how to equip the children for the future that they're gonna have. I love this full circle that he's I mean, I don't think it's full circle yet. You've got like all this circle to come, but what will he do with you? Yeah, it's gonna be good because it's been good. Yes, it has. I want you to know today that our children are superheroes. They don't fit into a mold that we've created in school districts. They need to be seen individually and they need to be have their gifts and talents addressed individually and their ability to discipline themselves uh be an individual thing too. We need to challenge them to discipline themselves. Uh you know, I was challenged just because my dad was really hard on us, and I couldn't come home with a teacher telling my dad that I talked in class. So I had to figure out how to shut my dang mouth, which you see, it didn't last long. But with my dad, I figured it out. And then praise God, um, I had some teachers that saw that nervous Nelly over there and started me reading. And that was such a gift because she they would let me finish my work fast which always did. And instead of making me sit there bored, I could go to the back of the room and read. Wow. It just changed my whole life knowing that. And then I started to write because I had teachers told me, write. Yeah, you know, that's what we need, but it's very hard to operate in that ability in classrooms today. And I can tell you from experience. Yeah. Um, your classroom is a little different because you're in charge of that classroom and you have people helping you. And thank God for those kids, because those are super powers for those children. Every child that is born is a gift to us. And when we recognize that, it's gonna change the world, Joe. Yeah. And and even if you think your kid's fine, sitting in a desk learning. I can guarantee you, if you don't find the locks that need to be opened for them to really embrace the gifts that they already have, they're gonna go through a season that's hard trying to figure out their way. So take make the effort. And sitting eight hours a day is a really hard thing for anybody. Adults can't do it. 15 minutes and we're out of there.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

And I see in my own daughter that it's so challenging for her, and I do feel like she would thrive in a different environment. And I I can't do that for her, so we're doing the best we can. But I just know in my heart that you know, she she's so intelligent, and um, but she just has a hard time being in the classroom and sitting and you know, just like you did.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

So anyway, um But you are doing good things for her, and that's the thing. And one day, you know, um one of my granddaughters said she's gonna be a teacher, and I was like, what? That is awesome. God, she's just one that really struggled through school. And the more that are called, I think, into teaching, they will struggle within the system to give that individual attention. I worked very hard to do that with my kids, and I loved them so much. And I see Betsy doing that. I'm so proud that she's a teacher like the teacher that she is. You know, I would like the governor and the legislature and the administration to realize that status quo is not okay. It needs to be changed, but uh until it is, we have teachers. Yeah. And they will fight for those kids as long as they get the chance to do that. And I'm so thankful for that.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Yes, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

And parents, you're the teacher too. So please, too, as well.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Yeah. It's so important to advocate for your children when you feel like it's necessary. I know there's been times where, you know, my daughters come home and told me stories, and I felt the need to advocate for her. There's other times where she would come home and tell me stories, and I would tell her that either she had to advocate for herself or we would look at it from a different perspective so she could understand that maybe her viewpoint was a little skewed.

Seeing Gifts Beyond The Mold

SPEAKER_01 13:01

And we should need to be a little bit disrespectful. Yes. And prayer too. We have to teach our kids that they have power and love and a sound mind through their prayers. And um, you know, as we teach them that, they start to see God move. Yeah. Like, you know, teachers moved around or a teacher's heart changing if there's from um, you know, my granddaughter that's getting ready to graduate this year. One of them, actually, both of them, uh, were uh learning was very hard for them. Uh one, because she's more ADHD like I am, and she basically managed to make it to second grade without learning how to read. She's graduating this year, and she's a reader, and she's amazing, and she's very she's doing really good in her ranking, and I don't know what hers is, but I know that the one that had diagnosed with ADHD and dyslexia and um all these other challenges when she was just a little baby is in the top 10% of her graduating class.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

So, guys, I'm just telling you, yeah, you equip your children, and that's because Kayla was her advocate and your mother's advocate. And uh because of that, they are gonna go out into the world so much stronger. And and so was Susie Pim's advocate. Yeah, you know, through fighting for your kids to grow up in the Lord and teaching them the right way, discipline, and tools for their gifts, to manage their gifts, you are gonna help them for so many years past where you are right now, whatever situation you're in. My kids are old now. 50 to 40. I mean, I can't even believe it because I'm old. Um, but for years while I was a mom, while they were young, I still am a mom, but while they were young and I was this active mom every day, I thought, what am I gonna do? How am I gonna get through this? You know, I I don't know how to raise these kids up so that they'll be okay. But everything that I feel like I I try to put into them, I see those seeds, especially their faith. I see those seeds have taken root and have grown. And now they have passed them on to my grandchildren. And my grandchildren are passing them on to my great-grandchildren, and that is the most important thing that they got. But through that, they got all of this other stuff. They were able to receive discipline, to be respectful, work ethic, all of those things they got because they learned about who God is and who they are in Him. Right. So that's what we need to teach them.

Advocacy, School Fit, And Resilience

SPEAKER_03 15:50

I know I've also with my daughter, I've been to counseling, and and this just came to me when you were talking, is that we've also utilized um people in our church to talk to Aubrey to kind of um help her see truth versus lies. I think that's so important for our kids. And you were talking about, you know, raising up your kids knowing God. It's just so important for our kids to know the truth um versus what's a lie, and you know, being able to um differentiate. Differentiate, yeah, those those things. Um, and that was really helpful for Aubrey when um she had that specific, it was a very specific conversation that she had in prayer time and uh with some ladies at the church, and it was really, really helpful for her. Um and they did kind of a um where they utilized a piece of paper and they wrote down some things and then they like tore it up and so oh so that they could throw it away. Yeah, and be over it. Yeah. It was just really, really cool.

Special Ed Wins And Small Steps

SPEAKER_01 16:54

You know, I do think that's a great exercise for this. Like, are there things that you are still holding on to in your life? Are there stones of hurt that when you were young you experienced and now you're passing them on to your children? I know I did that. Yeah, um my girls are so strong, and I want them to be strong, but I don't want them to be wanting to do things without the Lord. But I grew up in uh a space where I felt like I it was necessary to be super strong and to run things and to do things, and it has taken me even now, I still have those tendencies, but much less. And and so if that's you today, I'm just telling you, you're not abnormal, but you can break this cycle for your family. You don't want those curses to flow down because it's not that being strong is bad because it's good. God wants me to be a strong woman who gets my strength from him, right? He wants that, he wants me to be a faithful woman, he wants me to be a woman that is humble before him, but also somebody who can pull down mountains and kick them into the sea. He wants me to do that, but he wants me to do it through him. Um, and I wasn't raised understanding that, so I just became really strong. Well, when I had kids at a young age, I taught them all that this is what they should be. And um then they started to pass it on to their own kids, and I was like, wait, stop! I don't want that to go anywhere. Because by then I knew. So, so do spend some time with the Lord. Spend some time with the Lord in the next few days and let him show you things that are stony parts of your heart still. Uh, because we choose those to hold on to those. But he said he'd remove those stony parts and give us a heart of flesh. And I I have really been seeking him for that for the last couple of years, and I I he just keeps like unearthing another one. And he says very politely, I want to say God is so polite, which makes me want to be so polite. Um, he says, Are you ready to let go of that? And sometimes I'm not quite there, but then I am, and he removes it. And and this is how you know it. It doesn't come back except as like informing you to not let that happen again. Yeah, it really goes. And one of those ways that I've done that is to write it on a rock and throw it into the river, or write it on a piece of paper and throw it away, or burn it, or whatever. Because it's the physical uh act, too, that helps you to really because then you remember it, it's it's stuck in your brain, and you say, Oh, I already got rid of that. I don't need that anymore. I'm not holding on to that anymore. So I pray that you'll do that this year. That'd be great.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Yes, yeah, and it sets you free. So now I'm uh teaching. I've been teaching for I think this is my fourth year, um, teaching in special education. And um, I started out as an as a paraprofessional with um our pre-K special education teacher, who's amazing, very gifted at what she does. And um, she encouraged me to apply for this position. Um and I at the time I was very doubtful. I just said, you know, do you really think I could do this? And she's like, absolutely a yes, I think you would be wonderful. So I interviewed, and then they said, as long as you can pass the test. Well, I passed the test, so the job was mine and I've enjoyed every minute of it. It changes all the time because these kids are not predictable. They're not, and so you never know. Every day is a new day, and and there's um it's like uh it's almost like a mountain range, you know, like you'll have really good days, and then you'll kind of go through a lull where you're like, okay, we gotta figure this out, you know, and then you'll kind of figure that out, and then there's something else that shows up, and you're like, oh gosh, okay, now what do we do here? And even, you know, this year was pretty challenging. And um, at the beginning, I've had some different um challenges this year with the students that I have, um, that I wasn't used to. So I've had to learn a lot about caring for the students and um their physical needs. That was something very different that I wasn't used to, that we were working physically with them as well as, you know, um academically, if you will, um, as best we can. And emotionally. Um, emotionally. Um, and it's it has been challenging again, but it's just been really cool. I love the little steps that we see. And um the parents also, you know, it's really cool to to communicate with them and and you know watch their excitement when they see these little steps that their children are making. And um, you were talking about every child is a gift and they're gifted. Um, and what came to mind was that sometimes they have these children have more of an impact on us than we could ever imagine when we first see them or meet them. And if we would just give them the chance to have that impact, yeah, it's huge. Every time I send a kid on to third grade, I'm like

SPEAKER_01 22:34

I know, but like that's how I felt even with my high school. I saw one the other day. Or 10 years, 10 years, I guess. And he comes up to me all smiling. I was at a restaurant and he was working there. And he and I thought he worked at the restaurant. I had no idea because I hadn't talked to him in a long time. He owned the business. And he was putting in sound systems and security systems. And he was telling me about this. And he said that I started learning all of this in your class. And you know, that it wasn't just what I taught him.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

I loved that boy.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

And he was one of those that, like, I mean, I had the whole classes were kids that most teachers did not like because they made their life hard.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

My class was a zoo of those kids. They just all congregated in my classes, but I loved them. They make me laugh, they made me grow, trying to figure out how to help them, trying to figure out how to make a difference in their lives. And I'm telling you, when I just get to see that one little thing, and this was a big thing to me, really, but I I was like on a high for two weeks. Yeah, it's just like being able to see that their gifts are used is awesome. With special ed, when you decided to even start as a paraprofessional, did what what what was where was God in your because you quit the bank at one point.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

I did quit the bank. So at one point I worked at a bank that was inside of HEV. And we were open seven days a week. And I decided every once in a while I would get a day off if I had to work Saturday, Sunday, I would get a day off during the week. And so I would substitute. And I substituted in like here in Wimberly in the special education um department at the high school because I had a friend that worked there. And um I also substituted somewhere else and I was like, never again. Like I'm only going back to special education. I loved it. I thought it was amazing.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

When you started thinking about quitting the bank, were you praying?

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Yes. I mean, I knew God was like, I felt um at peace. Okay. Quitting the bank. And so I feel like um God was on the board. Yes. And God gives me peace when um I feel like I He gives me peace when it's time or when there's, you know, something that we're making a big decision about. Um, or he'll give me like a reservation and then I'll, you know, communicate that with Rance. But Rance was okay with me quitting. I felt at peace, and so I felt like God was saying it was okay. I quit the bank. Um, and then we just really weren't sure what was gonna happen. I didn't expect to go back to teaching. I had just, I mean, in early spring, maybe even winter of that year, I had um cashed out my um TRS. Oh wow. Because I was like, I'm never going back to teaching. Because I couldn't picture a past for you. So I still didn't know that that's what I had no idea I would be teaching again, obviously. Um, and so when I quit, I didn't really know what I wanted to do. Um, and then finally I said, you know what, I'm just gonna substitute because I just for something to do. So I started substituting, and again I found myself back in special education.

Grace And Truth In Practice

SPEAKER_01 26:03

And then it just evolved from there from telling you and encouraging you. Yeah. So he directs our steps. He does, even when we're not necessarily saying, okay, I really want you to direct my steps. Yes. He really still keeps you on the path if you have any sense of God. But I agree. It could get even better, you know. Like, um, I was just thinking, you know, I talked about not liking the way school is, but I like how much has happened in special ed. When I was first teaching in Jacksonville, special ed was basically a dumping ground. Nobody did anything with kids. They sure weren't getting individual treatment. But that's what I want for all of our kids is what we have in special ed, where you're looking for the little improvements and celebrating those. I you know, I think that's really important that I just wanted to correct that because I really do see a lot of yeah, we've made leaps and bounds in addressing individual children and what their individual needs are. And now we need to just spread that out and learn the lessons from special aids. So I'm thankful that you're part of that.

Invitation To Share Stories

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Yes, yeah, I agree with that 100%. So do you pray for those kids? I do, I do. And your parents? Yes. And have you seen God move? Yes, I do, I do feel like He has. Um, even when I was substituting, yeah, I I kind of I mean we have some cool stories that I look back and I'm like, why don't I do this every day? Um, we do. But there were times where I would go in to substitute, and I would start out by letting the kids introduce themselves, you know, getting their names and you know, whatever. And then I would try to say, you know, I remember this one in particular where I went through the class and I was like, Are you do you like basketball? And I would try to like see if God would give me kind of a word for those questions. Oh, I love that. I didn't, they didn't know what I was doing. No, no, no. But you're public education, yes. And it's because of that personal, and those words matter. Yes, they it was the it was so awesome. And that teacher, um, I said, I loved substituting your class. And she was like, What? Nobody likes substituting in my class. She was like, Oh my gosh, can I call you again? I'm like, Yes, please. Oh, that's um, so it was really cool. Um, and yes, I do feel like um he definitely hears our prayers. Uh can't really go into a lot of it just because of yeah, privacy things. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

So we think we're just getting a job to make a living. I and I really felt that way. But part of me also knew the verse that I worked as unto God.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah.

Advice: Listen, Consider, Trust God

SPEAKER_01 28:56

And and so when I went in and I had a bad day, it he kind of convicted me. Well, it was your attitude, it was the words that were coming out of your mouth. And he says that, you know, like to pray that the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart please you, Lord. And so then I started like changing and praying that every day I started seeing things change and like you. I was out in the business world, but I was saying words of wisdom and words of knowledge, and God's word was coming out of my mouth over these people. And they would say, Oh, I love how you say things. And I would say, Well, it's the Bible. This is coming out of my mouth, but they would be attributing that to me. It would sound wise because there is no wisdom. Yeah, except God's wisdom. You've already planted the seeds, but I feel like you're gonna see fruit come forth.

SPEAKER_03 29:50

And it's like, I really do feel like he placed me in this position. When I first told uh a lot of people that I talked to, when I first told them this is what I was gonna do, when I that I got this position, especially family and close friends, they were like, no way. Like, what are you sure? I got that a lot. Are you sure? You know, why do you want to do this and that kind of, you know? I feel like he put me in this position for a reason. Um, I've I work with really great people. Um, that's been really there's been some challenges, but overall, it's been really, really great. I've been able to pray with some of the people that I work with.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Um and that helps too, just because then you're in agreement with God's word. Yeah. And it really makes a difference in the earth. I wish everybody knew it. I wish everybody knew.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

Yeah. And I just feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

And it makes me really happy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

I think, you know, I went through seasons in life where I didn't feel that way. And so, I mean, just as an encouragement to those of you watching, if you feel like you're not where you're supposed to be, that's okay. You know, finish out that season and seek God for what's next because He's not wasting anything. No, I learned a lot. Yeah. In Alema, you know, everywhere that I was, I learned so much. I said I learned to live in the gray when I worked at the bank. That was something that I really struggled with when I was teaching dance. Everything was black and white. And I could not, I couldn't figure out how to see any gray. And I'm still very black and white, but I'm very much, I learned so much, like how to live in the gray, how to give grace, how to like how to give grace. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

So we want truth in our lives, but what would we do without grace? I mean, for ourselves, and also we need to remember that because God gives us so much grace, we need to give grace to those that were leading, those that are around us and in our lives, those that were planting seeds in their lives. Yes. It's just like if we would remember that God's grace and truth go together, yeah, it would really change us. Yes, you know? And and watch Jesus walk to the earth and how he gave us truth and then poured out his grace, and then truth and poured out his grace. He didn't leave us in a bad place where we just saw the truth and were like, great, I see this ugliness in my life. He said, Let me give you grace and I'll fix it. Okay, so you were worried about being on the podcast. Has it been fun? Yes, it has been, right? Every one of them. So if you're thinking about you want to share your stories on the podcast, I hope you'll reach out to me. Uh, Betsy, now I'd just like you to share, if you don't mind, just some advice that you would leave with um the girls that are out there that maybe you wish you'd known earlier, and now that you know it, it really has changed your life. It could be anything.

Seasons, Doing Your Best, Closing Prayer

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Okay. Um, so one thing I wish I would have known or um really paid attention to earlier, probably in my life, is that um kind of like Denise, I was very strong and really tried to do everything on my own, and I felt like I knew the right way. And um, I didn't really take into account other people's um, not necessarily their opinions, but just I didn't value the feedback that I was getting from other people. And I and I feel like if you have people around you, even if you don't always agree with what they're saying or their advice, at least listen and consider. Um it's one thing that I wish I would have done earlier um in life is just to at least listen because that doesn't cost anything, and um consider whatever the other person is saying. And uh another thing is I think for a long time it took me a while, and then one day it all just kind of like snapped and cave into poliges, I guess, alignment. I don't know. But um like God is real and he cares about us, and it doesn't matter matter where you are in your walk. Um, like he's there for us no matter what. I don't care, it doesn't matter where you are. Yeah, you could be at the lowest low or the highest high. You could have made all the mistakes. All the mistakes doesn't matter. Um, I didn't make all the mistakes, but we've all made mistakes. So I've made my fair share. And just one day I realized it doesn't matter where I am or what I'm doing, when I need him, he's there.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

He's an ever-present helping me.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

Yeah, it just took a like the situation happened, and when I was driving, and I just it I it all came to me. I was just like, okay, this is it. This is what it's all about, and this is who he is, and he is faithful and he is good. And um, it was when I was working and my first teaching job as a dance teacher, that was um, there was a lot of uh I don't want to use the word trauma, but it was kind of trauma. There were some traumatic things that happened. Um, there was just some really, really hard times that I went through um when I was teaching um dance. And so that's when it happened. Um, there was a situation, and I was like, I don't know what else to do. So I just started praying, and that's when it all like clicked. And so I'm here with you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:23

Isn't that something like you're praying and you want an answer? And the answer is, I'm here with you.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

Yeah, it wasn't, and I wasn't even, I just said I don't know who else to talk to or what else to do. And it just I just felt his presence. And it after that, um, not to say that there hasn't been challenges because there's been plenty of them, but I just know he's there, and I don't that hasn't been um it's I've never had to say I don't know who to talk to. You know, like since that time, I just that's my go-to. I love so anyway.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

I love him too. But I think I also think wherever you are in your life, um, you know, our seasons change. We we are in seasons like Betsy said, in banking for a while, in the dance for a while. Uh, she had a choice. She could have uh done less than her best, but really she just did her best every day. And it wasn't always enough for the world. It doesn't matter because she wasn't working for the world, she was working for God. Yeah, and so I hope you'll remember that. Um, I'm gonna pray for us today because we're at the end of our uh talk. But I'm sure that Betsy Brown, Mosley, is gonna, she's still Betsy Brown, but she is a Mosley, and I love her husband so much. And we're gonna pray just for you guys today that uh, Father God, I just thank you for those who joined today. I thank you for for seeing their heart, for seeing the wounds and the stones that they're carrying around, and for caring so much and being their ever-present help in time of need. I thank you, Father, that all they have to do is just turn and ask, and you will answer them because they're your daughters too. I thank you, Father, that you are mighty to pulling down any stronghold that rises up against them. You will not leave them or forsake them. I thank you, Father, that the words of their mouth and the meditations of their heart really do please you. And as they remember to put your word deep into their heart, bury it in their heart, it's gonna come out of their mouth and it's gonna change their world. So I just ask for peace right now for them, that peace that passes all understanding. I ask for joy in whatever season they're going through. I ask for eyes to see what you're doing in Jesus' name.