Time, Fuel, & Money
Time, Fuel, and Money is a conversation for founders, investors, operators, and high-performers who want to understand the deeper forces that shape how we live, build, lead, and make decisions. Hosted by Deborah Moorad, Karim ReFaey, and Vassili Kotlov, the show blends neuroscience, psychology, business, energy, and human behavior—turning complex ideas into practical, emotionally intelligent frameworks.
Each week, we explore what really drives progress: alignment, awareness, relationships, incentives, momentum, and the hidden energy behind ambition. Through stories from biotech, venture capital, government, aviation, engineering, and everyday life, we break down how time, fuel, and money work together—and how they quietly shape careers, companies, and character.
This is not a hustle show. It’s a clarity show.
A place to think deeper, grow wiser, and operate with more intention—without losing your humanity.
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Time, Fuel, & Money
Currency Beyond Cash: Rethinking Value, Ambition & Power
Why money isn’t the only currency that moves founders forward
Episode 10 challenges traditional definitions of success by examining the non-monetary currencies that drive ambition: connection, humility, fear, joy, inner peace, and identity. Through stories spanning startup life, personal growth, and the Oklahoma Standard, Deb, Karim, and Vassili explore how isolation and humiliation influence decision-making more than spreadsheets ever will.
This episode reframes wealth—and shows why founders who understand emotional currency outperform those who chase only financial returns.
Topics:
- Redefining value beyond money
- Identity, fear & ambition
- Isolation, humility & connection
- Emotional currency in leadership
- Meaning-driven decision-making
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