Lather Up
Passion project podcast by multi-Emmy award winning TV producers who love soap operas. LaTanya "La" Horne and Chanelle Oliver bring their take on what works and what doesn’t on 'Beyond the Gates,' 'The Young & the Restless,' 'Bold & the Beautiful' and 'General Hospital.'
Lather Up
Death Fake Out, WSB Gets Jason, Spencer vs Forrester and Diane Leaves Jack
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Beyond the Gates: Thought Jacob was killed undercover and Bill motivates Anita. General Hospital: Instead of shooting WSB spies, Jason is set up by the agency. Bold and the Beautiful: Now that Logan is officially a design house, Forresters and Spencers are at war. Young and the Restless: Diane finds Jack in bed with Patty and Victor kicks Nikki off the Newman ranch.
La & Chanelle (00:00)
Hello, hello, Lather Up with La and Chanelle is back for another new episode. And although we've had a slight interruption due to March Madness, there was still some stories to watch. But we begin this week with big congratulations to the super duper talented Michael B. Jordan for winning his first Oscar for the amazing movie, Sinners and
His humble beginnings started on what? All My Children soap operas, ladies and gentlemen. Don't poo poo the soap operas. They be making great people. They be making talented people. The soaps see it first and then you see it later if you don't watch the soaps. Yes, congratulations. Oh, so well deserved. So well deserved. Do we have any Nielsen Knowledge? Yeah, I can do a quick recap. Thank you. Beyond the Gates
saw its first ever year over year gain among total viewers. So we are still in this. We haven't heard yet for season three, but as we continue with season two, we're seeing the gains. And also General Hospital averaged 2 million viewers for the 10th time in 11 weeks. And I feel like this is loyalty versus what we're seeing in the storylines. But the Young and the Restless ranked number one among soaps in women 18 to 49.
Continuing to tie the Bold and the Beautiful season to date. Loyalty. That's what I'm gonna say. Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty. ⁓ Are you implying that the storylines are not riveting? We will discuss this at a later time. Let's begin in the DMV with Beyond the Gates. Even though it was only three days, they packed a lot into those three days, including a fake out.
When I tell you, I rush to my phone to text Chanelle and be like, sweet, googa mooga, my gosh, Jacob, we knew he was in trouble, we didn't know he was in that much trouble, he won't in no trouble, they pulled a, we gonna date ourselves and we don't care, they pulled a Dallas, it was all a dream. Naomi just had, apparently she's been having dreams that we didn't know about, but she had a nightmare that her mom had to deliver the bad news.
after being told by Elon that Jacob got shot outside Ophrey Genes while undercover. Never happened. I was like, not my Jacob, not my undercover brother. The devil is a liar. Sure enough, it was. I couldn't believe it. I should have been suspicious because it was right off the bat. Like it was the first scene this week, this past week. And I was like, that's how we starting off? With death of a main character?
I should've called coming. It's okay. That's what I'm here for. No, just kidding. But again, it just shows though, I felt this is one of the few times in a while that it had me being like, ⁓ Naomi cares because she has been throwing hooks and jabs and bricks at our brother for quite some time, ever since the baby scare. And without the pregnancy scare, you know, they've gone through counseling. We know that they're dealing with some of their other issues, but seeing that...
He couldn't live without her for another day and broke protocol just to have a quick booty call. I'm glad that at least she knows that she loves her husband and he was right there waking up beside her when she was ready. Well, actually he was already awake when she saw. So when she woke up, he was right there beside her apologizing for this undercover operation to take so long.
but he still did not tell her to watch out for Grayson. It's like, come on, man. I was surprised that he didn't, maybe he's concerned that if he says something about Grayson, it'll make her aware of what he's doing or something. But I thought he cares so much about Ashley. Lawyer Bae, like this is when you have to trust your wife because when all of your apprehension right now is falling on the shoulders of Smitty, my guy is not okay. Like he is like.
Pick up, pick up the phone, pick up, I gotta go. pick up, Jacob, what are you doing? You said when it gets dangerous, it's gonna be, I'm like, breathe. He looks panic stricken for this upcoming I don't think he's built for this right now. This is not the kind of journalism he is used to. I was gonna say, this is obviously out of his lane because you would think he'd be able to take this better. And honestly, I feel like Jacob can tell Naomi what's going on. Just give her a dime and be like, you know, attorney-client privilege or something. you go, spousal's privilege at this point.
But yes. But yes, Smitty's losing his mind and he just can't Well, someone who we already knew lost her mind, Leslie. But this week, she finally got some comeuppance. It was well done. And Kat got to watch it. Yes, firsthand. And look, karma. And that's it was. Nobody, I mean, somebody did a little something, but Kat didn't. Because that was the first person, of course, that is accused by Leslie. You did this.
just sat here and enjoyed the show. So this shouse. The shouse is no more for the time being, it's on hold. Darn that one inch. What had happened was Vernon called in a favor to Bill. Bill worked some magic and got an inspection done and one inch over the property line has caused all construction to be halted. She has to get.
whatever she was coming up with, her shouse, all the foolishness, she wanted a moat, like just the stupidest stuff. It cannot be built until it gets approval. And the construction foreman tried to tell her and she's like, I've got money. This should be taken care of. This should be handled. Then he contacted the inspector and she was gonna try to not only...
use her money and bribe them, but she was gonna try to seduce. She put on makeup, pushed up the girls, and then a woman walked in who was not hearing any of her mess, circled pretty much the entire map that she had of what she wants done and was like, until this is changed, you get nothing. That's safe. She got an inch, but took the mile and vice versa.
It was wonderful. And who threw some cold water on her as well? Mr. Vernon. Hmm. Looks like you're having issues with the shouse and whatnot. And then she realizes that it was him who pulled the trigger. He was like, I have only just begun to fight, old girl. I'm coming in. Coming in hot. Taking you down. Like, finally. This is what we've been waiting for. Use your powers for good against somebody who's terrible.
And again, this was the karma needed because prior to her finding out about this renovation delay, minding her business in the country club, we thought that Leslie was turning over a new leaf. we never did. I didn't. No, we really didn't. You're right. No. But we had Chelsea, we had Madison, we had Danny, we had Kat ready to plan this wedding of the year for Chelsea and Madison. Next spring.
Wonderful. It was gonna be glorious. However, Leslie hears them, overhears them, and apparently not only takes the date, takes the band, takes the location, takes basically every idea down to the color scheme and is trying to use it for a wedding that will never ever, ever, happen. Not even close to happening because...
Eva and Isaiah have not even been dating six months. Isaiah has made it abundantly clear. I ain't trying to marry nobody, but I do really care for Eva. And Eva is not... She's not there yet. Yes, she's just thankful to have a guy on the regular. And Leslie is trying to manifest a wedding that if she keeps it up, probably will never happen. Yeah, and so with doing this...
It comes out because once they try to make the plans and call the right people, they're like, it's booked. Every date, the backup dates, everything? Like even down to the dress designers? And finally someone breaks call because they were gonna try to find one of the wedding planners who was like backup of the backup. And she's right near the country club because she's working with Leslie and she's flustered and all get up. She is like, I'm about to quit the industry.
She has had one meeting with Leslie and is already ready to walk away. Look, some people need to have that kind of sentiment. Like sinners do not welcome in that vampire. Like, don't welcome her in. It was crazy. But luckily now that they know that and everything else, to the point that Kat even confronts Isan was like, you know, you might not listen to me, but I thought you were smart enough not to propose to Eva. And she was like, wait a minute, wait, what? So.
We had that trickle down effect, but I'm still mad at him though, because while he laughs off and jokes, and he did put Leslie in her place about slow it down, when he talks to Eva about it, he's like, well, maybe we should keep the date and do something for the clinic now that it's open, maybe like a gala or something. No, sir, if you don't give up that date for Chelsea and Madison's wedding, give them back everything that they planned.
And use this as a peace offering, Eva. It's like, come on, girl, you're smarter than this. Your mama was doing too damn much. This could have been your way to at least apologize for more of her antics. No, instead you go to your dad talking about, need mama to just chill out with Izaiah You're missing the big picture, and that's why you are still looking out beyond the gates in your apartment building, like, girl. What also upset me was the fact that she...
went running to Ted, mama's out of control. This woman has been out of control since the first episode. She has been a menace. Yes. Every time she's on the screen. All your life you've had to fight your mama, her craziness. Yes, and for you to be like, she is out of control. I'm like, why you acting like you just seeing this? So she demands that her dad steps in and is like, shut her down. What happens? Leslie comes over.
and is again causing problems. He's like, what are you doing? You are making things harder for your daughter and her new man. Just back off. And she's like, why don't you fire Eva for me? Because she doesn't like Derek. She thinks that he's too mouthy and he, I'm starting, I'm not gonna lie. I'm starting to like Derek. A little bit more time with your niggas. A little bit. Like she a few things. He was like, I thought you knew.
I don't have to deal with you. I don't have to talk to you. Cause she gave him crap because he was at lunch working at the diner. I don't pay you. He was like, I don't care what you do. You and I are never to speak. I only deal with Eva and Eva alone. He called and told. He took a picture of her looking nuts. It was awesome. So much respect for Derek now. Ever since he left the firehouse, he done got a pair and I'm happy to see him.
But it was just, she was on a tirade. Everything she could do, she was just making enemies even more. Even Shanice's aunt, Dr. McCormick, she seasoned the woman because she was visiting her niece in the hospital and she, they went to lunch, but Ted couldn't go. So she brings Shanice back to the hospital and she's like, ⁓ I hope to be able to say goodbye to Ted before I leave.
Leslie is walking past on her way out, heading to the elevator. What'd you say about Ted? What you know about Ted? And she's like, who are you? And Shanice is like, that's Leslie Thomas, AKA the one I told you about. That's a problem. And Leslie doesn't know this woman. She could have been anybody in that hospital. She could have been Ted's boss. You didn't know. And she's like, well, why don't you take your, you know, well-to-do self
elsewhere and leave Ted alone. Dr. McCormick was not having it, came right for Leslie. I'm kind of hoping she stays just to give Leslie a problem. Again, it was three days, three episodes, three times that Leslie struck out this week. Okay. I appreciate it. We're on the right path. This might get a few more viewers because this is what we've been talking about wanting, needing, desiring. It was glorious.
And it also helps with the emotional stuff that happened in these three days too, because my heart, Miss Anita and Bill having their moment. Bill gets on my nerves so much for the mistreatment of Dani but when he does stuff like he did this past week, you remember he has a heart. He couldn't even look at Miss Anita. She came down and she look broken. She looked like she'd been through it and
She overhears what he did for her by getting the construction stopped at Leslie's property. And she's like, I came down to thank you in person. He can't even look at her. He's looking up, he's looking around. And she sends Vernon out on a errand to pick her up something. She's like, I want some stripping grits from Oprah jeans. So can you go away? It was just a way to get them alone. And Bill still can't look her in the eye. She's like, I need some honesty from you.
What do you see right now? Do you see cancer or do you see Ms. Anita? And he goes, see my mama. When his mother apparently got sick and he's like, cancer took her light away and I'm seeing your light dwindle too and I need you not to it. He gave her a great speech. Yeah, I mean, just, he said, think what his father basically took his mother's light away and just the fact of having to correlate.
you know that he has always craved that belonging and that family sense of belonging with the Duprees. So from knowing how he felt about Vernon, but to saying he's looking at Miss Anita and seeing like the crab, the red devil taking her light. And it reminds me of this much. I was like, Bill. And then to take it even further, Kat comes in. ⁓ don't really say anything. She just falls into his arms and he just
holds her and he's like, just because we're not legally family anymore doesn't mean you can't call me. My phone number still works. I was like, Bill, damn it man. Again, everything he does to Dani, you hate him. But then as a father, I mean what he's done for Chelsea and Madison, how he treats and loves Kat. I swear, sometimes I feel like Dani and Bill are better parents to Kat than Ted and Nicole. And it's just baffling
I mean, I know I love my auntie, but like the way that her aunt and uncle just ⁓ validate her feelings and I just. And his speech was so motivating that Miss Anita called Dr. McCormick and was like, I need you to work on my case. So her fight had dwindled a little bit, but he reignited it. And I have to give him his flowers. Damn it, Bill. ⁓ Why you gotta be good sometimes?
here for it. I know he did. I was misty. I was like, my goodness, boy, what you doing? True. Look, and aside from that fight, this triangle that Dr. Nicole has going on between Kial and Carlton. Now that I think about those are two close names, girl. Be careful in bed. Just be careful. ⁓ But even with them, the fact that she keeps learning more and more about the whole basketball brawl, if you will, because
They went from trying to compete to just take each other out. Then it's the idea that they know that both of them have done the do with Dr. Nicole. And now even Kial, like he was trying to play it cool, but he ramped it up with the apology because he kind of butted into conversation that Carlton and Nicole were having, but amped it up by giving her basically a key, if you will. Like,
saying this is for you, like I am putting down roots and I've never had to fight for a woman, but I will learn how to do this to take the number one spot. I think he said what, Call him A and call him B. He's like, hey, I don't know about the B's, but I'm like, ooh. So even though she probably will not make a like solid choice anytime soon, again, both of them are doing better than Ted at this point when it comes to at least fighting for her love.
We'll see where it goes. I was very impressed. I was like, and just like Nicole said, she's like, nothing is more attractive to me than a man that'll admit he's wrong. And he came on bended knee, not marriage proposal, but he came head in hand. Like I messed up, but here's a peace offering. Here's the key to my new home. Come and go as you please.
and I don't intend to be seeing anybody else. So she was like, what happens if I come over unannounced? He's like, you will come over unannounced. Pour your glass of wine, babe. Like, we're good. I was like, get them, Kial get them. So that's one of the things we're lurking on. And then just again, the relationship is on the rocks and neither of really know it, but Ashley and Grayson, outside forces might be tearing them apart if it's not Jacob already threatened to tell Grayson, look.
let her go because you know she doesn't deal with liars. But now Dr. Leah, the chief of staff, ⁓ she rode Ashley hard for the mismanagement of what's happening at the hospital in her little bit of time while she was filling in for somebody. The way she talked to Ashley, I don't know if she'll be allowed to fill in anytime soon again as a supervisory.
position because she messed up the schedules, messed up people's medications, like the times that they get them, and the chief of staff was not pleased with her performance. I mean, she's only been a nurse for a year, but. That measly gift meant nothing because right now she doesn't realize that all eyes and the issues will be pointed out now because this is also Leah's way of getting at Grayson.
because she basically told him, choose, are you gonna be basically the impaler's henchman or are you gonna be trying to get your girlfriend to understand what you are dealing with with your mom and stuff? I don't care either way because she's like, basically I'll kill you and her. When you threaten with that level of I'ma kill you and possibly her, Grayson better watch out. I don't think he's built for this either. This might not be the lifestyle for him. Nope, he just wanted the money to help his mama.
But again, he's not equipped for this life. Woo! All right, now let's head on over to Port Charles. Port Charles, who have the worst mobster and henchmen I've ever seen. Jason spent least 20 minutes on the roof, supposedly gonna shoot, call him. He aimed and then he pulled back. And then he aimed and then.
Brennan got in his way. Take them both out. That's what I thought he was gonna do. No, he can't And then he contemplated. And then he did it again. I was like, and then he ended up leaving so he could go to his son's basketball game and he shot no one. Sir, you got one job. You're already leaving for God knows how long, Mr. Burton. The least you could have done was took a body.
Look, he's still not as bad to me as Randy on Beyond the Gates. Never gonna be that bad. the principle. Like, if you gonna bring it out the shooter, then shoot somebody. Like, if that's the case, you should have been at the docks and the piers waiting with Brett because Lucas finally came through. Shout out Marco. Even though they really weren't smart about it. No. But they got the medicine. And now it's like, go forth, Britt, and find how to get the dosage and mixture you need. But again, you...
Marco, you putting a lot of pressure on your daddy to be the one to save you when Cullum, as well as now we know Pascal. Got a little crushy crush. And the crush is a little upset because he don't like Lucas and the fact that you are causing issues for him, but he's blaming it on Lucas, which is also very interesting. But this is going to be interesting to see how this unfolds because they know that one of the vials is missing.
Not just one, it was two because they said Pascal said Remember you said that there were four there were six vials. Now. I only see four. I'm like, ⁓ no, he was supposed to grab one because he was a problem was you keep catching Lucas and Marco at the safe. Yeah, every 10 seconds. So of course, you're going to think one of them took it if they had spread it out or like you said last week, go at two in the morning when people are asleep, I suppose that every time there's traffic.
in the house that'll see you near it. Look what the vial says. like, we manufacture a Take a picture of it. Or can we at least take a little bit of extraction from all three or That's exactly what Marco should have done. Taking a syringe, took some out, and then you could have gone from there. But no, you got to take the whole vial. Or at least pretend to break one of the vials like, oops, my bad. Again, things could have been done, but at least they're trying.
Give them bless their hearts. Unfortunately, it does not look good for Marco as we ended this past week because Cullum comes and he has a weapon behind his back and he closes the door. Now, it's much like you said, they kept blaming Lucas for all this. I thought Lucas would be the next target, but I don't know what they gonna do to Marco, but it looks like Cullum might try to take him out. And if he does, Sidwell is going to blanket scorch earth in Port Charles because...
He has been doing everything that he can to keep his son happy. if you, first off, he can't even blame Sonny for this because Sonny don't know half of what's going on at Windermere. So whoever he thinks did it is gonna go down because his son is his world. Well, and then I was just thinking because we left on Friday because General Hospital didn't have any interruptions with Dante.
arriving at the game that Jason left to go to, but didn't even get through to get inside the door. We're saying the WSB wants to have him arrested. And I'm thinking to myself, how are they going to set up Jason to take the fall? Do you think Cullum would kill Marco and blame it on Jason? Absolutely. And if so, what is he willing to spill to...
maybe save himself or even go on the run because again, we got the vial, Britt is at the piers, they were supposed to run away together. They were. If Dante's gonna arrest you, what you gonna do now? What killed me was the WSB sends the commissioner of Port Charles police to go take care of this. If this is a WSB request for arrest, I need a representative from the WSB to be there. Don't just, I mean, don't just have Dante do it. Well that-
the fact that it's like, if this was Cullum and not Brennan, like, can you send a text? Like, sir, you used to work with the WSB. Like, you should know if this is beyond protocol, especially when Nathan, or is he, was over there talking to Dante, saying it's weird that Cullum keeps popping up and the WSB keeps trying to interview, you know, Lulu's kids. Like, there is just something not right about.
this situation and it goes beyond Valentine. And the weird thing was Dante, unfortunately I feel like he's in his feels because of the whole Nathan and Lulu get together. He didn't seem upset or worried. Nathan was like, this is not something that should keep happening to Lulu and her kids. And he's like, are you sure you're just not protective of Lulu because you're with her? And it's like.
Sir, you should be concerned too. Yeah, like two things can be true at once. And I mean, now that they have officially done with the deed, the protection's there. But I need you to go into this conspiracy theory that we might have about Nathan, which we've been discussing little by little, but I'm starting to agree with you. Okay, so this past week, Britt said that there are four children.
by Faison. She was talking to Joss. And I did the math that I don't remember four. There's Nathan, there's her, and there's Peter August. Peter August is supposed to be dead, she was supposed to be dead, Nathan was supposed to be dead. Two out of the three supposedly still alive. Is it possible, according to social media posts that I've seen, that Nathan is a twin, an identical twin, which would explain the DNA being the same, and of course, looking the same,
But we keep finding flaws in the old Nathan, supposedly. He messed up a month or so ago when he was getting evidence and the evidence couldn't be used because he didn't file it right or something. Something that Dante pointed out. Hey, that's something you would never do, but maybe it's because you're just getting back into the swing of being an officer. Then this past week, James and him go to the batting cages.
because James was under the impression that his father was a star baseball player on the PD baseball team. Well, that man picked up a bat and couldn't hit nothing. Why? Because twins are not identical in every way, shape, form. And I feel like the things that are lacking on this Nathan is because he's not the right Nathan. He's a carbon copy or a clone or something, but he is not.
the Nathan that came back from seven years ago? I mean, at this point, I wouldn't put anything past Pet Sematary. I mean, Port Charles. It's like everybody comes back from the dead and we're just not, we're not questioning it enough. And he has just gone back to his old career and he's trying to rebuild his old life. But it's always that inkling of
Where were you for these last seven years? We are not getting any progress on that. And nobody seems concerned, which is concerning to me. Yes, I want answers. And Anna was trying to get them, but now she in an insane asylum. So you would think Dante would pick up the baton, especially now that his ex-wife is having a relationship with him. But again, like you said, nobody seems...
It's like Nathan's here, dah, dah, dah. I'm like, no, seven years, dog. Almost a decade. We need to know what you been doing. So true. Speaking of the things that people are concerned with, Stella took it upon herself to break out and call Jordan and say, look, I went in your purse. Yes, I did. I apologize. But I saw a pregnancy test. Are you pregnant? Is Curtis the father?
And she made her come down to General Hospital to take a pregnancy test. You pee on that stick and you do it now. And not only, she was like, look, I'm be here for you. But then she turned around and found out that Jordan is not pregnant. Why even scare me with the foolishness? Okay. Yes. But then it's going to go to Portia and be like, look, I need you to stay out of Jordan's business and her pregnancy business, which she is not by the way.
Go, your marriage was on the rocks and all this other stuff and Curtis, he's happy and all this. What in the pot calling that kettle black is going on? Especially since Jordan was like coming for Portia when she's like, ⁓ should I tell Curtis the way you told on me? And she's like, you mind your business. Where was that energy when I was pregnant and wanted to tell him myself? And at this point I give.
Portia props because she didn't take out her phone, text or call or show up at Curtis' door and say, your girl might be pregnant. Like, she let it slide. She was like, you know what? I'm gonna do this solid for her and realize that I have put too much energy and time and effort and concern into hating her. It is what it is. And I give her those commendable moments, and her and Stella had a moment.
But it's like, how far must we go in trying to prop up Curtis? Because then Jordan is like, oh, you know, it's between my health and I just don't know about kids and everything. Why are we still talking about this if you ain't pregnant? Probably don't want to get pregnant. Probably if you do. a grown child. We don't have to, and he about to have a child. You should be good, sir. And you know, again, it goes back to while he might have many jobs, he's still a hobosexual moving in with you, like.
Like again, he's just that good guy, nice guy that I always have to side eye because I just don't trust Curtis. And you make me want to try to root for it. And right now, like fetch, it ain't happening. my gosh. Let's talk about your favorite friend, the ultimate spy. Joss. It ain't Harriet. Joss climbs into the window and demands answers from Britt.
and demand that she don't tell nobody about her being a WSB agent. First off, Britt got bigger things on her plate. She ain't got time to care about you or your mother or anything to do with whatever you're doing. She trying to live that part. And then she also spoke very disrespectfully to Carly when she came over and saw Sonny and Carly talking. She's like, you still talking to him? He's a horrible person.
You're not great either. Please remember that. Look, and when you have to have the mobster to be like, hey, don't disrespect your mother in her own home. And Carly's like, you know what? Yeah. Respect me. It is my house. They be like, little girl, who are you talking to? I will tell Brennan I know. Like, what, you know, I just need more. I need the threats of, this is your mama. Like, I need you to like, maybe take it down five notches. When you come to Carly's house.
Maybe check going upstairs, see if Valentin's still there before you just come in like swinging. It was really very, very hard to root for her. I never root for her. Yeah, cause even going out, like she's, think at this crossroads, if you will, where Brennan is like, you are basically swiped from the WSB files, go live your life. You're still a sleeper agent. And like she's supposed to be going out with Trina.
and all the others, like the fact that she was even trying to hang out with Emma and our boy Gio. And Cullum is there with Brennan, which is getting so weird. Like you both hate each other. You know you both are playing different sides. We know this. You know it. And then it's like Josh kind of going up to Cullum and he sees this and Trina's there and she's like, oh my gosh, hi, it's, you know, I remember you. And Trina's looking at her like, girl, like what the heck is going on? And then she's like, woo.
Sorry, I had to fake being a dumb college student. And Trina's like, did you? Did you? Like you laying in a real thicket. She's like, yeah, because he gives me the creeps. That's not the move for someone that gives you the creeps. You avoid them. Everybody knows that. That part, like no one told you to play Queen's Gambit and try to beat him at chess, girl. Like, Joss. It really is. And then.
As we pointed out, Brook Lynn is getting very close to this Jane Doe, AKA she has now named Phoebe. We don't know where Phoebe came from. Like Chanelle said, I thought it was going to go with Delilah, but apparently no. She is calling this child Phoebe and she's like, I got a great idea, Chase. Let's take her until the family found her. Of course, of course, of course. And this is gone. This is Michael.
Michael got down and dirty in the gatehouse with his little friend, Ms. Jacinda, and got caught afterwards by Olivia, because she came down to get something for Leo that he had left. And the Pearls got clutched. Olivia called a family meeting, bugged the heck out of Tracy, who was trying to arrange who Danny is going to stay with if something happens to Jason with Alexis.
And she finally comes back home and she's like, what do you want? We need to discuss Michael and the company he keeps. And it's just not good. He could, anybody could have caught him. Luckily it was me, but, and they confront Michael and he's like, what? So, mean, Lisa, you know, doors and they're like, that's not the point. You been messing around with that.
former sex worker and it's disgusting. And Tracy, ⁓ I love Tracy. She's like, everybody calm down. Especially you Olivia with your mobster lovin self. And I'm sorry, maybe I'm not remembering this correctly, but Ned, weren't you a bigamist He's like, mom. It was only for a little bit. She was like, little bit goes a long way. I was pulled out of my meeting with Alexis to just a smile and nod. She was like,
you all act like you all are perfect. Like when did the Puritan-ness come into this? To the point that Michael really came in hot was like, I don't want to hear from you. Don't want to hear from you. And then Tracy was like, well, I'm going to say, he's like, the only one who's making sense right now is Tracy. And I think what pushed it was Tracy was like, the only thing I will say is I told you don't play with that girl's feelings. And he's like,
Tracy, you know, she's no longer a sex worker and I do have to, he's like, but does she know? Michael's like, you know what? We are going to rectify this situation. Homie grabbed his keys, went to find your Jacinda, was like, can I kiss you in public? Okay. I mean, you could just say you could be girlfriend and boyfriend for real, but she was like, sure. Like, think my favorite part of the whole encounter with Michael, Olivia and them is when he was like,
You think you're better than my grandmother- Bobbie, who used to be a sex worker? was like, Chanelle told us about that one. Again, he got himself a type. And we say, that's okay, Michael. You've been through a lot, baby. I understand. But when you gotta be like, you know my grandma was a sex worker. There ain't nothing else you can say. Cause even Tracy's like, well, she got a point. He did say, yeah, she was.
We're And so it's like Olivia, if you keep acting like this, you ain't never gonna get your pizza oven. Never. I get it. We don't want to have the birds and the bees talk in front of the kids. But like Michael said, it wasn't in the nursery. It wasn't here in the living room in the family It wasn't in Tracy's bedroom. It's like, everybody calm down. Wait a minute. Like again, Nate and Olivia, it was so random, but it was just like, he was like, mother, you're not no saint. He's like, hell no. I ain't say I was.
I didn't call this meeting. I was pulled into this. So Michael agreed. He's like, well, maybe, you know, between locking doors and maybe I could have gone to the second floor, but I'm going to get mine. And now he has officially shown that he is willing to show off Jacinda as his partner, love interest girlfriend. And I will say she's growing on me. Such work aside, she hangs out.
The fact that even hanging out with Christina. Yes. And the bond that she, you know, we learned a little bit about her little by little. She enjoys even working for Nina. She's like, she definitely enjoys when Michael kind of puts Nina in her place. Keep her, keep her. Look, maybe marry her. if that's your type, go ahead, Michael. I'm just gonna go after another one. At least we know this one.
Yeah, mean, look, ex wife is crazy and an attempted murderess. Sex worker is not the biggest issue that you have with the person who's in your love life at Who knew she would be a step up? There you go. All right. Now off to LA where Bold and the Beautiful and the Spencer's versus the Forresters So Katie is still reeling her hands like,
I mean, my sister mad at me and Bill's like, and we made a killing. This was amazing. Our little debut of the House of Logan is awesome. And Will gets an earful from RJ who was like, I know you have something to do with this. The whole Bill and Katie taking my grandfather's designs. So I'm going to make sure that my dad fires you. And Will is like, I am.
I didn't know nothing about this, but if they want me to, I'll quit. I mean, out of respect because what my dad and mom did was wrong. And so Ridge comes home, not home, but back to work and RJ is like, fire him dad, he's a bad person, he's a Spencer. And Ridge is like, he's a Spencer, but he's not the bad one. The bad one is over at Spencer Communications, me in the head of it. So.
Ridge is like, we're not gonna fire you. I believe you, even if my son doesn't. And Will is like, I'm gonna go get my mom and dad a piece of my mind. And he goes over to the place and Bill is like, yay, did you quit? Did they fire you? You can come work here? He's like, absolutely not. What you and mom did was terrible. And did you even once think about your son? What it was gonna do for me if you did this? I was like, no, they never thought of you.
I didn't even think of you. He came in real hot and it's like, that says a lot for the nepotism baby who just got the Malibu house. Make sure that that is in your name before you come swinging. You had dollar Bill Spencer. Bill is petty, like 50 cent level petty. To the point that he was the one who spilled the family tea at the debut where it's like, the only reason we have these designs from Erica is because you know, Ridge had to...
give him early retirement and then he pushed him out the company and he felt he wasn't considered at all and he wasn't feeling like he was deserving and now he felt like Eric just wanted someone to make him feel like he was needed and wanted and respected. We did that. We paid that man. These are ours. Everybody's like, Eric, is this true?
And at this point, they were like, Eric, is this true? And when he said nothing because he let Ridge do all the talking, which was so ridiculous, like you're a grown man. That's what you keep saying. Grown man that still got it, but you can't speak up for yourself. I mean, at this point, they're going to have to say he has dementia or just or something because it's like every few months he's like, I'm still able to run.
everything in Forrester Creations if I want to. And it's like, no one said you couldn't. Like we thank you for your time, your effort, your legacy. You almost died, old man. Like if you don't go play some pickleball and love up on your much younger wife, like what more do you need? And then it's one of those things where they brought him back because of course, RJ now has the Forrester genes of wanting to sketch and design and everything else. He wants to do a men's line. Which is actually refreshing because
We ain't getting no hope for the future anytime soon, apparently. So the fact that he's even thinking, I would love to see some handsome men on a catwalk, runway, showing athleisure wear and everything else. Jackets and blazers. I was like, I can see it. It's like, I'll give Ridge that much. At least just semi-dress decently. Sometimes I question what you put the other people in, but.
You know, it is what it is. It is. So the fact that Eric is kind of just being able to walk back in, Forrester Creations didn't even apologize to the former workers. It's like you really founded a company and through it, chucked up the deuces when your feelings got hurt. And truth be told, he did screw over Logan because you did come to them. They did not seek you out. And you said that you can handle this. You could not. We all knew you couldn't. It was one man.
And honestly, I would have just gave them the design and be like, you know what, these are yours. Enjoy, but I will not perpetuate. I won't give you anymore. But you do what you like. Yes, you paid for them as Bill said. Take them. And again, it's like you will never recreate anything else. And they were beautiful designs on the runway. It's just the idea of now you have Brooke coming in hot.
and basically declaring family fashion war against Logan. She said, I'ma take you down. And I hate to say it, but the way she spoke, I feel like now she gonna put her sights on Bill, make him show his true colors that all she gotta do is do a little shimmy and he will walk away from Katie with a quickness. No! And then Ridge will be mad at Brooke because she won't explain what she's doing, she's just gonna do it.
⁓ speaking of Daphne. Logan Design. Speaking of Daphne, I need her to have a backbone. Ivy is just Ivy. You are best friends with the co-CEO of Forrester Creations. Stop letting the little jewelry designer be mean to you and threaten you. Don't you dare tell Electra what I did and I got rid of her letter and that I'm manipulating her to be what RJ as opposed to Will. Don't you dare.
What you gonna do? That's true. Not a damn thing. I will choke you with your own necklace. Get out of my face. That's right, friend. And I'm married to the COO girl. I got more power than you. Just sweet thistle it. Definitely need like Daphne to come in a little bit harder with it's like, is you're gonna tell or is you're not? Like if you're going to let Electra know that everything Ivy is doing Aunt Ivy is right now poison Ivy, then do that.
If not, then continue on the line because it's like you keep coming at Ivy. You know where her stance is. You see Electra crying in the showroom. It's like, girl, pick a side. Well, the problem now is the newest employee, Dylan. yes. Heard Daphne and Ivy speaking about what Ivy has done and she confronts Ivy. Did you mess up stuff with Will and Electra?
Are you manipulating them? Like Daphne said, you heard what the woman said. Yeah, you heard it. That's exactly what she's doing. But I'm like, what is your plan now? Because she's so upset that Electra can't stand her now. Shock and awe. And the fact that Electra tried to make the girl leave and then Dylan tried to make her feel bad. She's like, I had nothing. I was living in my car. This is my first good job. was like, technically you were already working. Mind you, it was a dishwasher, but that's what you wanted. Yeah.
I don't think you understand what it's like to be poor, but I do. was like, technically you could have gone back home. You didn't want to. Electra's like Forrester her adjacent. Like she wasn't living this kind of life. But Dylan act like she was like, I have nobody. You just didn't want to embarrass yourself and go back home with nothing. That's on you. Your pride let you stay there and live in your car. Nobody else. True. But she won't give Electra that peace of mind. And again,
I don't know why nobody will say anything to Electra about, we know you kissed RJ. We know this. yes. Every time somebody's like, your lips have been doing things, she act like she don't know nothing about it. Like, what are you talking about? I'm like, did RJ not put it on you with this kiss? Because you don't remember it at all. Redo, it was such a non-factor. It must have been, because that's the second person who was like, your lips be lying because they be kissing on somebody else. She's like.
What? I'm like, come on girl. I wish the writers, if you're gonna play her like this, you have to make her kind of be, how would you say, like not evil, but it's like she knows what she's doing. This whole like, who me? Couldn't be. No girl, you put the lips and lips in the cookie jar. Like you've been kissing on Will, you want Will. Will is your prince. If you were as adamant of Electra being your best friend,
You were working at Il Giardino. You didn't look back and see all them motel rooms and like rooms up there and be like, huh, I wonder, you know, can I stay here? No, you've never done that. You left them high and dry with your dishwasher. You've come to Forrester. You've already raided the closet trying to look fashionable. And now you have a friend in Deke. Like it's not adding up. I wish if you're going to be like, yes, I want your man. I'm going to take your man. You don't deserve your man. I would at least respect it more.
because this whole like, I'm your friend. Why are you mad at me? I'm like, girl, try that line on somebody else. And if I was Electra I need again, like I do with Beyond the Gates and other like soaps, I need some more like mean nicknames. Like look at here, midnight ballerina. I need you to get off my man. We're gonna work it out. We're gonna make it through. Like Miss Dylan, look, de facto, I need you to act like you know your place. And it's like,
when she's trying to be mean, it's not really hitting. And then it's like, I have to see you every day. I mean, yeah, but you don't have to speak to her, but- I absolutely wouldn't. Yeah, know Dylan's gonna be like, hi, Electra, give her the side eye or give her the up and down and move it. I would act like, you know what? Yeah. Steffy said I need to be professional. She didn't say nothing about it. I gotta be nice to you. That part. All I want you to do is do what I need you to do, receptionist. I want my messages and I want-
you out of my face. That's all I want. And then on the same opposite end of the spectrum, you could have the girls who apparently think that Electra is a goody two shoes, maybe like Dylan. The fact that she had to, you know, scrape and scrap just to get by. Like maybe they're like, she has... She's more relatable. To them. Tenacity, spunk. I mean something. Like it's just one of those things where at this point, even if like Will doesn't want to admit it,
He's gonna have to choose. The fact that he hasn't kicked out Dylan has basically shown us that he's made his decision. Absolutely. If you want Electra back, either fight for her, and at this point now, you gotta fight your cousin for her too, because RJ is just... Gunning. Gunning so hard for him. To the point he's like, I know my aunt Katie, you know, did something wrong, but I blame your father. If she's your aunt and that's his mother, he's your cousin.
And you are our family, you know, even if you didn't grow up together, like it could be a little bit more. And it's like, okay, like I need Will to kind of use whether it's the Spencer brain or a little bit more of that tenacity and gusto. Because again, RJ is your cousin who kissed your girlfriend. Why haven't there been more swinging?
Last but not least, Genoa City Look, it wasn't swinging, but it was a slap. So many slaps. It was a double slap. Jack got caught in bed with Patty Williams. Not only by his wife Diane, but by his own son Kyle and his brother Billy. And the boys were like, ooh. Diane was like, ⁓ hell no.
What are you doing? And Jack played the, was drugged. I was not myself. She took advantage. Like, mama, is that you? I would have played it a little bit higher, Jack. Like, yeah, you were dazed and confused, but sir, you are shirtless in bed with your former wife. And you didn't make an effort like you should have to jump out and get dressed until they Unhand me, woman. Yes. So Diane is...
She's not caring about the drug edge. All she knows is I thought you were on the verge of death I thought Victor had your life in danger instead. I see you having a good time with this crazy woman I'm out and she leaves and when I say she leaves she didn't just leave the yacht she left the Abbott home that she redesigned and
didn't look back, so I'm sure she's at the athletic club or wherever, but she is more than angry at Jack, and Jack don't know how to make things right. Kyle tried to talk to him, Billy tried to talk to him, and he's like, I don't even know. I don't know what happened. And it's like, mm. My question is, did something really happen, or did she just drug him enough to get him undressed, get in the bed with him, and make it look like something happened? Per Victor.
Either way, it just didn't look good. And the fact that again, Jack got slapped hard by Diane. Like he is truly rethinking his whole stance of what happened. And even if you were trying to seduce Patty to get off the boat, mission not accomplished, my guy. You did too much too soon. And unfortunately,
Now everyone's going to try to blame Victor, but it's like, he might've laid up the dominoes, but he didn't push and topple that one over. Like that was you and Patty and the drugs. It's assault, but it's also like, Jack. ⁓ And the rescue mission just cost Billy, Chancellor, again. So because we don't like to communicate, if Billy had called Phyllis and told her about the rescue mission,
Maybe she wouldn't have been so eager to try to be a superhero for the Abbotts and help Jack by giving Victor Chancellor in exchange for Jack's safety. The same night of the rescue. Billy comes back to the office and is like, hey, Jack is back. And Phyllis is like, I know. I made it happen. He's like, no, you didn't. We rescued him, me, my brother, and his wife. She's like, wait.
I talked to Victor and he made a call. He didn't call you? No, we had already got him and he's home safe and sound. Ooh. And then Billy is like, okay, let's sign the paperwork so I have Chancellor now. Well, what happened was I decided to be a good person. Your brother's safe now. And I thought that was because of me. So I gave Chancellor back to Victor. Billy is so upset.
But again, if you had just texted her or something to let her know, bide your time. Do not do anything with Chancellor. We are trying to get Jack. Screw Victor and everything he's doing. But he lost it. And so he goes to his girl Sally and she's like, well, just to remind you, Spectra Charles is up and running. There will be no Abbott communications. So what's your plan?
I know, I know, you you and Audra are running things. I'm like, but you still unemployed though. Hobosexual. Hobosexual. It's one of those things where it's like, you want to root for Billy sometimes, but it's like, man, like you didn't even have chance for a good two minutes. Couldn't pick up new wallpaper. Couldn't even sit in a chair right. Nope. After all that and all that taunting and Nikki, you didn't even close the deal. ⁓ Billy. Speaking of Nikki.
Another hobosexual, her and Victor had a drag out, blow out fight because she found out that Jack was kidnapped and she's like, how dare you? The best line, I don't know if I can forgive you. He's like, I don't care. Get out. Get out of my house. It's like she forgot about Christmas. This so sad. Get out. Get out. Get out. So, but the best part is when Claire sees her at Crimson Light and she's like, I had to leave. I couldn't take it anymore. I'm like, that's not true.
But you know, I mean, whatever, however you want to spin it. It's like, I don't have to take this. I'm leaving. Well, he kind of kicked you out. And again, the fact that your supposed best friend is like his arch nemesis, Nikki, it's not going to bode well for you. You've got to pick a side. And then the way that Diane is laying hands on folks, you got to be careful because...
I feel like she blames you and it's like, what now? First it's Nikki, now it's Patty. Who want these hands? Because Diane is tired of all these women trying to come for Jack's rescue, his heart and emotions. But it's also not good because now that Diane has left the Abbott Manor, you got Nikki probably going to be there to console Jack and was like, I told Victor I was mad at him. That he...
kidnapped you and he's gonna be dwelling and sad and sad because Diane leaving. Don't let them get close. Oh, I didn't even think of that. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. Oh God. Yeah. That's all gonna happen too. Oh no. Well, also getting close, the brotherly bond. Again, Josh, show runner, writer, AI creator. I don't know. It's just, I-
I need him to figure out what this storyline is because now we have bad boy Adam going back to his old ways, bringing along narcotics Nick as they go to Vegas to try to figure out where Matt Clark is. And if you don't bring Matt Clark back to the wreak havoc on Genoa City, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I need him and Patty together in Genoa Yes!
Crazy on crazy. Ooh, Genoa City would never be right again. But yes, like, I don't know what their, why couldn't you just Zoom with the woman that he needs to talk to? Was it RZA? Not RZA, RZA, whatever her name is. When he was Spider. They had to go to Las Vegas and try to set up a meeting, but Nick isn't allowed to be at the meeting because Adam needs to be with her by himself so he won't smoke her. I'm like, this plan does not.
look like it's well organized to me. I'm skeptical at best. And when the previews for this week, we saw she gonna pull a gun on him. So she obviously is not happy to see it. Yeah, Riza ain't gonna be too happy at all. And it's just the idea of through it all, you still have Matt Clark texting Noah of all people. I like, I'ma see you soon. And it's like, is he here in Genoa City? Is he not?
Stop texting me. Just show up. It's like I do have great data plan, but damn it, man. Like, are you here or are you not? Like come for me. Let's figure this out. Yes, these texts are getting on my nerves. Look, I was like block the number. just block the number. It's like, scream God can't get you if you ain't answering the phone. Like it's just one of those things where it's like, okay, Matt Clark, I need him in there. And through it all, poor Cane.
Again, Aristotle Dumas, I don't know where he went. All his power is gone. To the point that he wasn't even part of the conversation of bringing Jack back and then he's going to try to attack Victoria. like, you're going out of town. You know about Lily and the twins, sir. As much as has been happening, the Newman's have Chancellor. Like what have you been doing? Your family's not even here. Have you been trying? went to Phyllis's office.
and you left a video vlog. what, you left a vlog, you left a letter, you didn't even open the laptop. Cane, Cane is not able, okay? That's what I'm gonna say, right? Cane is not able. We're going biblical with this. I'm tired of him being the way that he is, where it's like he's being chopped at the knees left and right. I question when he, I mean, you,
How do be the same man? Lily's gonna come back on her own and be like, I'm back. Right, I saved myself, because you can't do it. Good to know that you care. Thanks, Cane. I got the vlog. Whoopi. I just, ⁓ stay on the train at this point. Don't come off until you have a plan that works. And another plan that isn't gonna work, and I'm just gonna say it right now. Lauren is a fool for attaching her wagon to Phyllis, because T minus, I give till May.
when Victor has taken all of his corporation back and summer conglomerate is a thing of the past. And just like Michael tried to point out to his wife, when Victor comes for Phyllis, you will be collateral damage because you sided with her. I just don't know why Fenmore's isn't enough for her. And basically Michael said that it runs itself. I really want to see how these changes are going to impact when we do the crossover.
between Young and the Restless and Beyond the Gates. This is happening, it's happening people and I need to figure out how all these storylines will align to make it make sense. Because if she's not running Fenmore's why would I meet with Lauren Fenmore then? But then again, it's not like she's giving it up, but you're taking your knowledge, expertise and day to day struggles over to like Summer, Conglomerate I don't understand why.
Which is Newman, which we still, none of us know what that company does. And we definitely don't know what Summer Conglomerate does. It's gonna be interesting to see and then it's also just gonna put another stress on her relationship with Michael. Is it worth it? That's what I was about to say. I hope your new challenge is worth it. All right, so let's get ready for a full week of our stories.
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