Lather Up
Passion project podcast by multi-Emmy award winning TV producers who love soap operas. LaTanya "La" Horne and Chanelle Oliver bring their take on what works and what doesn’t on 'Beyond the Gates,' 'The Young & the Restless,' 'Bold & the Beautiful' and 'General Hospital.'
Lather Up
The Return of Newman Enterprises, Hope's Double Life, The Enemy Within and Crossover Anticipation
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Young & the Restless: Matt Clark gets his memory back while the Newmans get their company away from Phyllis. Bold & the Beautiful: Hope is now with Logan & signs her brother up too. General Hospital: Sidwell learns he had an enemy under his nose the whole time in Pascal. Beyond the Gates: Martin is getting ready for a big fundraiser that includes visitors from GC.
La (00:05)
Hello there! Welcome for another installment of Lather Up with La. Alright, let's get to the news of the week. We have the final reveal of Heather, who is Joey Armstrong's sister, coming on Monday. That would be Ashley Jones, best known as her character Bridget on Bold and the Beautiful. Now, later in the show, we're gonna
Chanelle (00:10)
and Chanelle.
La (00:36)
solidify who we think Heather really is. But we also have a inkling that Hope Forrester, the actress Anika Noelle, is pregnant. And I called that last week because she's wearing very bulky clothes, not the cute little tight stuff that she's been wearing. So I being an avid soap watcher
Have seen how they try to cover up pregnancy, then I think she's with child. And so do other viewers.
So let's keep an eye on that. But if that's the case, kudos to her. Then we have on General Hospital the arrival of a newcomer named Tristan Roberts. they didn't explain what he's gonna be, but he's going to apparently join the show on the 16th.
Thousandth episode of General Hospital. Can you believe they've had that many episodes? But he's arriving. That's gonna be his debut day.
Chanelle (01:37)
Crazy.
Yeah, that's actor Dean Guyer, probably best known from Glee and Neighbors.
La (01:41)
Yes.
Correct. Then we have Scout, but not little Scout, a more grown-up Scout. That's gonna be played by Kayden Brenna Takarski, forgive me if I'm ruining her name, but she will be taking on as Scout Cain Drew Cain's daughter on General Hospital, and she's a teenager now.
Chanelle (02:03)
In July, I'm again, justice for little Scout though, because I thought there were possibilities to have her woven into the story, but I do want to see what this older recast of Scout might bring to port Charles and.
La (02:17)
He might
be the savior he needs to get out of his body embodiment. So we'll see in July.
Chanelle (02:23)
Okay.
look, Steve and Finola back taping.
La (02:27)
⁓ they
are coming back. Steve Burton and Finola, who plays Anna Devane, will both be coming back to General Hospital very soon. So Steve has both of them have been on hiatus for a minute, so probably at least a month. All right, now let's go to Genoa City
Chanelle (02:37)
Glad they're back taping.
They're needed.
La (02:47)
Young and the Restless. All right, we got Matt Clark. Matt Clark has been going through it because he is finally getting his memories back about what a diabolical human being he has been, and it is hurting him. He is not happy about all the bad things he's done. Also, to help bring his memory along, Noah.
Chanelle (02:48)
Josh Josh Josh.
La (03:15)
Has brought the Shadow Room to Wisconsin. So we're in shadow, what is it, Shadow Room GC?
Chanelle (03:15)
Noah.
or LA. Yes, the Los Angeles. Yes,
the Los Angeles version of the Shadow Room is now in Genoa City down to the decorations. It really is the flooring at this point. I get now.
La (03:28)
Yes.
It's in the stools.
AKA
Young and the Restless paid for that set. We're gonna use that set by any means necessary.
Chanelle (03:40)
And it really is by any means because
as Victor said, who authorized this? Why was it needed?
La (03:46)
Right. We were like honestly,
I saw a glimpse of it and I was like, we flew all the way to the West Coast to try to trigger his memory. It did not even occur to me that Noah would do this. He didn't tell Sienna, he didn't tell anybody that he was gonna do it in the exact replica.
Weird. But did trigger his memory. But my confusion is, did it only trigger his memory for the last what, like months that he was wreaking havoc on the Newmans? Or does he remember when he was younger and in high school harassing and doing all the bad things to Sharon and Nick?
Chanelle (04:10)
Yes.
La (04:31)
Does he remember all of it or just the recent bad stuff?
Chanelle (04:35)
He's like, Josh, we have some questions. And that's a good point because now he remembers it all. And he's like, I'm a monster. But then it's like, well, do you want to a feeling of evil or wanting to kill? Not as profane, but I kind of, enjoyed it. It was good. I'm like, oh goodness, here we go. So now he's a ticking time bomb who eventually will be working, working for Victor. And I'm like, again.
La (04:58)
It can go off at any time. Yep.
Chanelle (05:03)
Josh, as anti-climactic as many of these things throughout this week have been, I'm talking and looking at the Newman Enterprises takeover and take back. I just want to know if this is how you were going to use Roger. I wish you would have brought him back as a different character because now you have me rooting for serial rapists who can go off at any time.
who seems to be making Phyllis fall in love with him. And now you have me question where is Patty? Cause she kind of liked him too. Why?
La (05:37)
Roger brought it this past week. Him in the fetal position in his holding quarters, just reliving all the pain and suffering it caused and just crying, him begging Victor, even begging for a shower. Is it possible that I could wash up and just get a meal? ⁓ please, sir, can I have some more? ⁓ He just delivered every time. I was like, I'm telling you.
Chanelle (06:01)
He
La (06:06)
At first, when he was on One Life to Live, and he was unfortunately a rapist on their show, too. His delivery of redemption was so powerful that I couldn't not root for him. And He was a killer on General Hospital as Franco. You can make him the most evil man in the world. And when it's time for him to ask for forgiveness, he gets you. You're like, I see it.
Chanelle (06:33)
Yeah,
even on As The World Turns, I remember him. He come on home, baby, come on home.
La (06:34)
Okay, we we gon' work we gonna work on it.
Yes. Now let's talk about the anticlimactic return of Newman Enterprise.
Chanelle (06:48)
Josh,
Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh. I know this is before you were strictly just the head writer, but I need you all to have in that writing room, a cork board, some red string, and some note cards. Because I wanna know how you get from point A to point C with all the convoluted mess around point B, Because it's like, what in the world? Phyllis.
this whole time, weeks, months, if you will, has been touting the fact that she not only beat Victor and the Newman's, that she got over on Kane, that Summer's Conglomerate is gonna just look to the future and build a legacy for her kids even though they don't want her. But all that changed after Nick's dying in her office. brought back because of her efforts, along with Matt Clark.
to only say, know what, prison is not where I need to be. Let me go on and give this company back. Just make sure that Christine knows that her first case was a flop. was very just like, okay, we had Michael coming back, Michael who has been hired and fired at least three or four times to finally let her see the light and say, you don't wanna go to prison for this. Just give Victor what he wants. That's all you need to do. Get out of prison.
Don't worry about what's gonna come next. You won in your mind. And that's what they did. And you brought Christine over to the Newman Ranch to first say, I don't know what's going on. That's not a good look for your DA. Then they finally admit. The emails, they were all a lie. With her being like, what? My forensics team combed through it. It looked legit. We're telling you it's a lie, Christine. Just go with it. To the point that they are
hashing out a scheme and compromise where it's like, okay, you give us back Newman Enterprises, we'll drop the charges. And she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't agree to that. Why are you even here, Christine? Really, when Phyllis calls her a bug, this is the moment that Cricket, I'm just shaking my head. Like this was just not the perfect setup. Like you all should have hashed this out before she got there. Because now you have the DA knowing that you lied, knowing that you did steal the company, Phyllis.
And then you have Victoria who lied and presented this false evidence to her being like, what did you tell her dad? Nothing. ⁓ okay. Well, I perhaps fudged the truth a little bit, but we want to make our company back. So please drop the charges. It was a lot. And there was no kind of twists or turn that really made it even worthwhile. The paperwork was done basically in a day because by Friday, Victor Newman was back in his office.
It was so anticlimactic for this payoff that was supposed to be big. You almost forget that Cane started this whole mess back when he was Alexander Dumas with an AI system that we never really saw working except for doing fake paperwork. I was like, what in the world? But I feel like now almost all is right or all is well in Genoa City. But it left me with an empty feeling. I'm not even angry. I'm just.
disappointed or, ⁓
La (10:09)
It's true. And now Victor has recruited Matt. You get to live. I'm not gonna send you to jail. But now you're going to be my henchman and your goal is to take down Cane Ashby. What are you taking? His AI program was stolen by Victor. Victor had it stolen by Phyllis. In the process of both of them having it, he has supposedly nothing really left.
What are you gonna do to him? unless you kill him. There's nothing to take from him anymore. And the fact that, like you said, Victoria is the one who handed Christine all the fake evidence. Victor made the deal. What was to stop her from being like, Okay, Victor, you're in the free and clear, Phyllis is in the free and clear, but Victoria, you got the ball rolling, you're under arrest.
Chanelle (11:02)
at least give me something for a payoff because even trying to go after Cane or even Billy, all of that is now, you know, I love the saying the fruit of the poisonous tree because it's like you have all of this information, but you know how you got it was fake and no deals will be made. And you know how I feel about something in my heart of hearts. I want a for a Cricket. Lord knows I do. I should. She's
legacy at best. But the way that they have her written as an attorney, it's always like, you know, she's going to lose in the ninth hour. She's always going to lose. And first case out the gate of being voted in as DA. It's a loss. It's a wash. Crazy.
La (11:51)
And she gotta get rid of her forensic teams because if they comb through that fake evidence making her think that it was legitimate, they suck.
Chanelle (11:59)
I'm saying I'm like it was it look open AI was it chat GPT plus was it clawed code like perplexity like what was used that you could not tell and they were like nope it's good and she's like well I mean I thought it was it sounded like girl he's telling you it's fake at this point just believe him and and live to fight another day
La (12:02)
Yeah.
And then we have after Victor gets the company back, gets the family over, everybody cheers, everybody's cheering Victor. You did it. I'm like, technically we wouldn't have been in this position if you hadn't have done what you did in the first place, but that's neither here nor there. Then he calls Lily over and makes good on his promise. He gives her Chancellor, which
Shocks Nick, because he's like, after all we've done to get our companies back, you just gave it to Lily. I believe the drugs had an impact on his memory, or Victor never told him and Victoria that the plan was for her to dupe Cane into thinking that her and the twins were kidnapped and in return she gets Chancellor. But of course, the two kids never thought he would follow through with that because Chancellor has been run and owned by whom? Nikki.
Chanelle (13:11)
Aww, Nikki
Newman.
La (13:13)
Miss, I got a headache every five seconds. And so now to seal the ultimatum that he gave Nikki, We can get back together and focus on our family and our business when we get it back, if you cut Jack out completely. He didn't even give her a chance to answer, although she did just leave after he gave her that demand. So
God forbid she comes back and is like, you know what? I love you too much. Jack's out of my life for good. Now he's already given away Chancellor and he can't take it back. There's no way Lily's gonna let him take it back, although she has lost it like 20 times. She turns around, gets the paperwork, and goes straight to Cane and is like, I got the company back, and he's like, Good for you. I knew you could. And she's like, And I'd like you to run it. And I'm like, girl, what?
You know Devon is not gonna go for that, neither is Nate, and you just put a bullseye on his back by Victor because he's gonna need to get that company back to give back to Nikki.
Chanelle (14:22)
Mm-hmm, and just another thing here when Billy thinks he's flying high, he's about to crash out.
La (14:26)
⁓
I lost it to my brother. Again Billy ain't never gonna get it.
Chanelle (14:32)
Poor thing, poor thing. And even with,
it really is that at this point, Devon's already side eyeing her and her decision making. Devon, they have made him like the ultimate hater. I need them to do, yeah, a better storyline. He is someone that we grew up loving and still do. But from the heat and smoke that he had for Mariah after, deservedly so, kidnapping Dominic to now.
La (14:41)
Yes.
He's so bitter.
Chanelle (14:59)
Every time that Lily just smiles and twinkling her eye talking about Cane, he's like, I don't know why, why you even giving him the time of day. And even with Holden, yes, Holden started off wrong, but that's her half brother. let them live. And it's just like side eye and him while he's talking to Lily about Malcolm, who is coming back this week. and then it's just this whole thing of, okay, Devon.
You're doing all this hateration in the dance-ery while still trying to manage the articulettes and you about to be in a crossover. Like what's going on my guy? Smile.
La (15:34)
I thought that
after he had his tete à tete with Mariah and got everything off of his chest, that he got everything off his chest. But the bitterness is still fueled. And I can't tell you why anymore. He just an angry man, and I don't know like you said, right now his focus on I'm wondering if Cane left. Like if for some reason Lily cut off from Cane and he just left town. Would
Devon still be mad. He just likes being mad right now. Yep.
Chanelle (16:06)
Gang banging on bacon. You know how
I feel about just waking up angry for no reason. And it's like, go be with your family. I feel like Abby misses you. Dominique misses you. Like.
La (16:13)
Yes, like, mm-hmm. Yes.
Focus on your music, the managing musicians. What the heck is Tessa doing? Do something, do something musical.
Chanelle (16:28)
That's true. Another one who is just randomly always popping up angry, Daniel. That hobosexual finally talks to his mother and again couldn't tell me, gun to head, what is Daniel doing aside from just playing his guitar Don't know. But he is warranted when he realizes, yes, Phyllis gave back Newman Enterprises.
but then he wants her to do with feeling and actually mean it. And you know your mother just like we know your mother. She doesn't think she did anything wrong. She was hella wrong, but she in her mind does not think she did anything wrong. And for him, it's like, it's not the fact that you actually gave it back. It's the fact that you don't understand why it was wrong in the first place. And it's like, sir, do you know who your mother is? You gotta know. And when...
her now spiraling because she has nothing, nothing, nothing. I don't know what else, like what else he could do. And if Phyllis isn't leaving town or on a vacation, then she's just persona non grata in GC. And she might be lower than Matt Clark, because at least without his memories, now that he has him back, he's not evil. People are like, you know what? He at least did save Nick's life.
They tried to give Phyllis that kind of courtesy, but she comes in too hot. She's always too strong with it. Even after getting the charges dropped, she has to point in the face of Cricket that you lost. Technically I won. I told you, should have believed me. Yeah. And it's like, take the victory and go. Just come on, Red. What's going on?
La (18:08)
And I better not see Lauren hire her because yes, she needs a job, she needs a friend. She actually got one with Sharon, which is ludicrous to me because she gave her this pep talk. You go back out there and you do what you do best. I'm like, lie, cheat, steal? Don't encourage this woman. She needs to wallow and sit in her failure. We have let her get away with too many.
bad things too often. You failed. You failed. I'm sorry. It's what happened. And I'm with Daniel.
You only gave it back because your back was against the wall. You fired Michael three to four times in the last two weeks and he still saved your butt. Pro bono. He'd sure he didn't charge you a dime for all his legal advice. And you going to Daniel, I finally took your advice and I did it. No, you didn't. You didn't want to be in an orange jumpsuit. That's why you did it. If that wasn't on the table, you still would have been going around town bragging. I
I'm the winner. That's all you would say to anybody who would listen. So for you to be like, I finally done the right thing. No, you didn't. You only did the right thing because you were forced to do the right thing. And for you to be like, now you all can take me back into your bosom. The hell we can. You suck as a human. You haven't improved. Get over it. hopefully maybe Esther's hiring. Clean up the tables. I don't care. But
You cannot be back in the business world. You have tarnished yourself You can't be trusted as a business person. Cane can't trust you, Billy can't trust you, the Abbott can't trust you. You are not worthy to work in Genoa City.
Chanelle (19:45)
But hopefully he don't.
And
then you think about it, she did screw over a lot of people just to have the company giving right back on the silver platter to Victor Newman.
La (19:58)
Yes,
yes. I hear they're hiring at the Shadow Room. Maybe you can tend bar.
Chanelle (20:05)
And again,
I just, and with the Shadow Room, I know we are saving on all those expenses and budgeting but Sienna made a good point. Out of all the bad things that happened at the LA version of the Shadow Room, why would she want an exact replica when she doesn't even want to go back to the original? Like what? Hey.
La (20:27)
We are gonna use that set, Chanelle.
Chanelle (20:30)
And not only her,
you had Audra being like, wait, what? A Shadow Room? Holden? Holden was like, why? Why bring us to GC? What's going on?
La (20:33)
Holden, Not there.
And we're doing a soft opening.
Chanelle (20:44)
Where look where Daniel apparently has the bright idea of not only checking it out Which i'm like it's only going to be some time or there's going to be some live music elements and him and Tessa Going to pop up with a guitar or something I see the vision Josh, but again How are we getting from point a to point c because point b is always a little shaky ride. I tell you
La (20:52)
Of course, of course. Mm-hmm.
All right, should we head on to LA?
Chanelle (21:08)
Yeah, it was the slap on Friday that did it for me. I do, I really do.
La (21:11)
You love a good soap slap. All
right, so we have Hope, double agent. The rage I have for this situation knows no bounds. The fact that she is misleading the Forresters as in I just need a break, then I'ma come, you know, when you all have decided about Hope for the Future then I'll consider coming back. No, if you are on hiatus.
Taking a mandatory break because you're so traumatized by Steffy and Ridge's decisions, then you have no access to the building in my eyes. I don't want you going to anybody else. Your husband works for Spencer, your brother wants to be a designer, and you have Katie. I just don't feel safe with you being out in the streets with any information that we're doing for our next line.
But that's not the case. Unfortunately, the Forresters are oblivious to the possibility that Hope could be a liar and a cheat, even though she stole your company less than six months ago. Alright. So she signs up with Logan. She is officially on the payroll. She is going to do the new line called Hope Logan, because Hope for the Future is of the past. Okay, Chick. If it's from the past, then you should have cut ties like a dignified professional, as opposed to playing both fields. So she
also hooks up her brother Deke. Hey brother dear I've decided to walk away from Forrester because they don't know greatness when they see it. I am a design content creator, can't draw a lick, but my visions make a profound difference in the world of women that
I'ma do what I did for Hope for the Future for Logan. And I want you to do all the work. Okay? I'm on it, sis. You're a pillar to the female community. I'm like, all right, pizza boy, let's do this. And so he signed up.
Chanelle (23:08)
Ha ha ha!
La (23:13)
So then you also have the return of Wyatt. Shauna was even like, hey, I want to get in on the ground floor of Logan. And she's in the opening credits now along with Wyatt. So is she coming back permanently? Don't know for sure. But she made her little pop-in when she dropped off Wyatt, who apparently did not have a car because he was getting it taken care of in the shop. And she's like, I used to run boutiques. What that got to do with running a fashion line? You don't draw.
You know how to ring up stuff, okay. I guess maybe you bought stuff. I don't know. Like, clothing that she thought would work well in her boutique. But that's not the same as creating a line. What would you do? I don't understand her purpose. But you have Wyatt coming back, he brings back the Hope Diamond.
And please break down your confusion about how the Hope Diamond has been handled now as opposed to when we first were introduced to it.
Chanelle (24:07)
When we had this beautiful blue diamond, Hope for the Future was all the rage. It had security. He had to do, I think it was like a biometric fingerprint, had to sign contracts and digital signatures left and right. This time it came back in his pocket. Great little little pouch, but it was in his pocket nonetheless. And I just wonder.
through all of this grandeur, if we were trying to bring Wyatt back into the Spencer fold, was this the only kind of opportunity they saw? Having him the diamond and then try to plead his case of come on back home. Why? Well, because while dad has, it's a new softer, gentler Bill, you know, your consulting seem to be on hard times a little bit. And now we have even Will back. Why? Because RJ and Ridge,
fired him from Forrester Creations. And even our little brother is now working at Logan. Couldn't tell you what he's going to be doing, just like, couldn't tell you at Forrester Creations, but he'll probably get his six figure, seven figure salary. And through it all, I'm just like, well, we haven't got to check in on Wyatt I haven't heard what he's up to. Apparently him and felony Flo didn't make it. And I'm like, we can bring them back.
But is he supposed to be in the design element of Logan or are you trying to bring him back to Spencer Publications? Are we still even publishing anything at this point? Are we all?
La (25:40)
I haven't
seen an issue of Eye on fashion in years.
Chanelle (25:43)
Couldn't
tell you, couldn't see the projections of the things that Bill had been buying. Look, too cheap to buy the fabric that, Eric wanted, but he got an open wallet and checkbook for Hope and her apparent needs. Again, I wanted a fashion house versus fashion house type of storyline and Logan, it has potential. I won't completely say.
what that potential is, but it has potential nonetheless.
La (26:14)
It's because it's an underdog because unfortunately they keep having Ridge and Steffy be oblivious to the possibility that some other fashion house could take
clients and attention away from them. Like the fact that Ridge tells Hope, ⁓ you know, Logan's gonna fail, so why are we even worried about it? And then Steffy says the exact same thing, but she kicks it up a notch with, not only is Logan gonna fail, we're going to show them how much they're gonna fail. You're telling this woman, Hope, trusting her, to not go tell her aunt, to not go tell Bill Spencer, to not share this with her husband.
Why are you telling them anything? Don't tell what power you possess as a fashion house. Show. The big problem with the Hope for the Future was that we couldn't give money and couldn't do the rollout for the next line because we needed to focus everything on couture. Well, you know who I haven't seen that we're doing this for? Eric. Eric should be nonstop, day and night. mainlining.
coffee to get his couture thing together. Everybody's working their butt off. Ridge and Steffy and Zende, all these people, RJ, are working on couture. Where are you, We wouldn't even be in this predicament if you didn't get in your feels and go to Logan on a whim and then realize you made a mistake and come back home. Now we have to play catch up and clean up your mess and you're nowhere to be found. Get in the office.
I'm done. I'm like, all these problems stem from him. So if you still got it, you don't want to be put out the pasture, you want to die with a design pencil in your hand, where are you?
Chanelle (27:46)
Lord.
Good point. Well, we know he ain't at Forrester Creations because the upheaval of Will leaving and Electra still kind of being oblivious to how creepy sometimes RJ can be about wanting to have the best for her. I root for Forrester Creations because of the legacy of it all. But I look at the day-to-day operations and I'm like, you got Miss Dylan doing perfume samples.
You got Electra who went from an apprentice slash assistant to the main jewelry designer, gonna be doing the necklaces and the pieces for a couture line we still haven't really seen put together because of what I saw RJ showing on the catwalk, it wasn't good. I hope that was just some fabric samples or something else. I saw, I was like, what in the Toga bed sheet was this?
in different colors, but again, neither here nor there. What I did appreciate is finally, Katie found the cojones, if you will, to be summoned to Forrester Creations thinking that Brooke had something poignant to say. Maybe I thank you or I'm proud of you or anything other than what we know Brooke is about. And she gave her like one last spiel of
Stop doing this. You know, you've already hurt Forrester Creations enough. What more do you want to do? You know, just say that you're jealous and Katie being Katie. you know, I love me some Heather Tom. She's like, you know what? I'll admit, I used to want to be like you, but not now. You are just low down. Basically should have called her slut from the valley, kind of like a la Stephanie Douglas Forrester. But no, but she did hit Brooke where it hurt.
by saying, only do you lack the social awareness, being a Forrester that you think you are, but even as a Logan, what kind of mother are you? Hope wanted her line and it was shelved. And you know what? Sometimes I wonder, do you even care about Hope? You know, I feel like Ridge is your destiny and Hope.
She's basically your stain after you took your other daughter's husband. Like what, how could you? That warranted a slap from Brooke and you know, Brooke, her slaps, I'll give it a B plus, B minus. It wasn't, you know, I gotta rate these slaps because again, Stephanie back in the day, that was a slap her around the world. Anybody get it? Her hands were rated E for everybody. Like, know, Liam got slapped, Ridge got slapped, Eric got slapped, everybody.
And then I put maybe Quinn, maybe, maybe second or third, cause Steffy, she can do a good slap or two when needed. I love when she backhanded Liam, you know, that was a good slap. But with this slap, it was a sister slap, if you will, even though it was a soap slap, it was a sister slap. And Katie's delivery of taking that slap was like, don't you ever, ever put your hands on me. This is basically war. And she was like, you know what? I just,
I don't know how to get through to you any other way. And I just hope that, you know, we can figure it out. And she's like, yeah, hope. Hope being the operative word. And I'm like, Lord, Katie, just keep it together because every so often I feel like, again, like a good villain. never tell the protagonist what your intentions truly are. You're wasting time. And she's like, mm-hmm, I love that word, hope. And it's just like, ⁓ here we go.
But this is going to be a lot more, I'll say, fuel driven to the fire versus even Eric. Because once the news of Hope not only leaving Forrester Creations, but leaving her line to pick up something anew at Logan with her brother, Deke, with the Hope diamond, all hell's going to break loose and I will be here for it.
La (32:10)
I want it to be down and dirty because the fact that Katie just saying that Brooke is not a great parent warranted a slap. But when she finds out that Hope has signed up with Logan, that should warrant a punch. That should warrant an eviction. Hope, get your crap and get out of my house and take your raggedy husband with you.
Chanelle (32:35)
That cabin. Mmm,
that cabin.
La (32:37)
And
I want her to team up with Steffy. And I want her to stick the knife in Hope's heart. Steffy has become more of a daughter than me than you ever have been.
She appreciates my opinion. We are going to work to demolish you all. You would have nothing if it wasn't for me. Katie would have nothing if it wasn't for me. The only reason you all even exist is because Bill took pity on his wife and gave you this. Gave G-A-V-E this fashion house. You wouldn't even have a first line if it wasn't for Eric. You wouldn't have anything if it wasn't for me.
And honestly, it's been out of guilt because you weren't even supposed to be born. Girl, I'm doing scorched earth up in this piece. I want below the belt.
And you know Ridge will cheer them all because he ain't never like he haven't he's had smoke for hope ever since she took the company. He called her a bitch to her face. Let's do this. Let's do this. I want a civil war. I want them to be
Chanelle (33:37)
Now that was crazy. That was crazy work.
La (33:44)
just gunning for it. And when they find out that Hope stayed on their payroll, this chick has been collecting a check while secretly taking time off to create her Hope Logan line. Woo! they need to sue her because she stayed on with them but didn't work.
while she was working on something else for their competition. That's a conflict of interest right there. So you have your new line. We're gonna sue because you pretty much did it on our dime.
Chanelle (34:17)
There you have it. But again, at least it gives me that inner fighting that I've been waiting for. The young adults, I know that they want the younger generation to be up there, but I'm like, Electra, you are playing with fire with you still entertaining RJ. The fact that she's, yeah, it's not even cute at this point because the naivete that she tries to present.
La (34:20)
⁓ Mm-mm.
Yes, you need to shut that down.
Chanelle (34:41)
It's like, girl, your man just lost his job and you going home to him every night. And I have the side eye heard even with talking with Dylan and the designs and it's like, yeah, Will said he liked it. Girl, you can't be sharing company secrets with him anymore. He is no longer at Forrester Creations. Like, what are you doing?
La (34:59)
I don't they
they have this unfortunate veil of, you know, even though they don't work with me anymore, they would never turn on me. the moment you step off that lot and we take your security badge, you are cut off.
I'm not talking no shop with you anymore. No.
Chanelle (35:19)
separation.
La (35:20)
Yes. Why do we not see them as the enemy now? Enemy as a work enemy. Not enemy as a human, but enemy you I can't mm mm, no
Chanelle (35:23)
Family in fashion.
But some of that could be enemy as a human too, because again, RJ and the way he talks to Will, it's like, that's your cousin. And the way he'd be talking about the Spencer's, It's one of those things where you all are family at the end of the day. Don't be trying to have this back and forth in the fashion wars and come Thanksgiving, we trying to kumbaya at a table. Like, no.
La (35:37)
True.
Yeah, we can't
go to Eric's with this kind of energy.
Chanelle (35:53)
Yeah,
you all, Donna, you cannot be Switzerland in this situation. you have to pick a side, pick a side and they not like us right now. So what it's gonna have to be is Katie and them are gonna have to be on the outskirts a little bit when it comes to family time. We can't have them popping up over at Forrester Creation. And that should also side eye view for Brooke and Hope popping up when they were over at Spencer Publications. It's like, no.
La (36:00)
Yes.
Chanelle (36:21)
We're not just doing quick drive-bys and fly-bys. We, reasons.
La (36:25)
You know what else upset me?
The fact that when Brooke and Ridge came to their home and Deke and Hope were there, Hope is like, you're home early at my house? Yeah, I am. I can come to my house. You live on the property. I own the property. So if I want to come home for a quickie with my man, I can do that. I don't need to call you first. What are you doing? We need to ask what you doing in my house.
Chanelle (36:46)
Yep, and the fact that they care. that's
true. What are you doing?
La (36:52)
You supposed to be in the cabin.
Why aren't you having a conference in the cabin?
Chanelle (36:57)
⁓ lord, that her! Kinda relegate hurts in a cabin. To the cabin.
La (37:01)
You better get your
butt to the cabin, that's all you own. That correction. That's all you're allowed.
Chanelle (37:06)
⁓ well, even even Steffy stopped by to try to talk some sense into Hope and...
La (37:11)
But again,
why are you acting like you don't know? The woman can't stand you being in charge of her, is what she believes. So for you to be like, why are you on hiatus? I can understand Hope's reservation? But when Steffy is like, I've already explained it to you, but I'm gonna do it one more time. We're just focused on Eric's couture right now. But as soon as we get that taken care of, it's all about Hope for the Future.
Chanelle (37:30)
Slowly.
La (37:37)
And to hear that, and then like I said, Steffy follows up with, We taking down, Logan. And you see Hope do the look away. I'm like, you can't even look the woman in the eye. You're a coward. If you had the balls, you would be like, screw the hiatus. I found somebody who would appreciate me more. I want to cut ties with Forrester. That's what a professional would do. The playing to both sides are gonna bite her in the butt. And like I said, I better have Steffy Brooke.
Zende, RJ, and Ridge, battle ready. Take them down because she is utilizing her mother's guilt. You've already told your mom, You were supposed to support me. And all you do is care about Ridge. This is not news, my girl. he has done that to his family on a regular basis. He has screwed over Steffy, Taylor, and Thomas for your family. So for you to be like,
How could you, Why, mama? Why? What? Right, you see your mother in action. She cheated So for you to be like, I can't believe Ridge is your priority. That's all she cares about. He is the air she breathes. And
Chanelle (38:37)
It's destiny. It's destiny.
La (38:50)
anybody who gets in the way of that is a problem. You are a problem, Hope.
Chanelle (38:55)
that's a shame. Well, you put it like that, yeah, cause even when Katie called her a stain, I'm like, yeah, we've said it, but you don't have to say it for family like that. A mistake, how? Don't say that. She's a blessing.
La (39:01)
Yeah.
Well if who
Well hey,
no. Who can better tell you the truth than your family? You suck. Let me tell you why.
Chanelle (39:12)
That is a good point.
Katie need to come back with a family tree and be like, at here. If it wasn't Ridge, then it was Bill. If it wasn't Bill, then it was Deacon. If it wasn't Deacon, it was Eric. If it wasn't Eric, it was Thorne. If it wasn't Thorne, hell, you took Hope's first boyfriend, Oliver, and you slept with him too. Who's next? Your nephew? Do I have to protect Will? What's going on? Like, I just-
I need more of the history lesson in the shade throwing, just so that we can see it.
La (39:42)
Well,
When Brooke f realizes that Hope has betrayed her with her sister, I want Brooke to be so mad that she's like, I curse the day that Storm died so you could live.
Chanelle (40:01)
Ooh, to Katie with the
La (40:03)
Every
time your heart beats, it destroys me because you're here and he's not. That's how much I hate you. That's how much I hate you. to Brooke, you know this is gonna be the ultimate betrayal. She has fought tooth and nail for that girl. She even tried to look the other way when she stole the company. Like she does everything, and I feel that it's guilt.
Chanelle (40:11)
you're hitting below the belt and the, ooh.
La (40:29)
Because she knows that Hope is a product of an of an affair. So she has to make up for that. you had this terrible shadow over you this whole time because of what I did to have you. So for the rest of my life, I gotta make up for it by doing any and all that you ask. But when I've gone out of my way for most of my life to make your life perfection.
Chanelle (40:34)
Yeah, yeah.
La (40:54)
And you're like, I don't feel like I'm treated right. I'm gonna go with my aunt and not tell you, not discuss it with you, and still break bread with you every day in your home. I feel like that's when Brooke is gonna just snap and be like, Everybody gotta go. I'm taking no prisoners.
Chanelle (41:14)
The the plague on both your houses. House of Logan. House of Spencer.
La (41:16)
Yes, yes, a plague on the house
of Logan. It's coming. That's what I hope. I don't want this niceties. I want war.
Chanelle (41:28)
What is it good for? Absolutely everything in this situation.
La (41:30)
Yeah.
I want war. I want Brooke to not be all teary and crying. I want her to be like, vengeance is mine. Yeah.
Chanelle (41:40)
Mount Up.
Let's head over to Port Charles We actually had, I'll give them some leeway when it comes to the passion project of taking down Sidwell.
La (41:45)
⁓
Yes. Everybody's involved now. Everybody wants a piece.
Chanelle (41:57)
I'm here for it. And we had some movement in the right direction. Thanks to sanctimonious, Lucas who would have thought Lucas came through after setting up Pascal. We finally got him to see the light and be like, so well, we'll kill you. Especially now that he thinks that you're the reason that Marco was killed.
La (42:04)
Live this yes.
На водиф reason that Sidwell is convinced now that Pascal had a hand?
Chanelle (42:24)
Whoo, gonna say it.
La (42:26)
Joss is using some of her spy skills and decided to mess with the lighting at Wyndemere. She went, got the bulb, got the wires, did a little tinkering, and the lights went out. Of course the backup generator brought all the lights back. And when that happened the police had just come
Chanelle (42:34)
DOS
La (42:47)
the new guy, Detective Fitzgerald, is like, after being told by Lucas, I just need you to investigate Pascal. He's rocking Marco's old tie that I gave him. I think he had a hand in his demise. They come over to question Pascal, even though they've already questioned him before, and Pascal points that out. I told you everything I knew about the Marco death. I would never have heard him. He was like, I recognize that, but it was brought to our attention that we just needed to do another round of questioning.
That's when Joss does the lighting thing, the lights go out. When the lights come back on, Pascal is a memory. He done ran. And Sidwell is like, what is this? Innocent people don't run. That's the case. So let's go with his guilt. Did not go well. Then he tries to run, gets in his car, it does not start.
Chanelle (43:23)
Hmm
La (43:38)
Lucas, Laura, and Sonny have come up with this plan to try to get Pascal on their side to get them what they need so they can take down Sidwell. Sonny has stripped all the wiring out of that car and is like, You need a ride, my guy? It's like, my goodness. Yep.
Chanelle (43:51)
He really did.
get in the car.
I have to give it to them because with detective Fitzpatrick, we have gotten so much just from, knows that Port Charles, a lot of corruption is going on. Too many people know too many different people. He was like, I'm just doing this because Dante already made me come out here and Lucas, you know, threw his weight around and being practically family. Then he's like, this ain't right.
Then he puts out the APB. ⁓ Pascal. So how the mighty have fallen? Like he told John, I just wanted to stay my butt at the five poppies, but no. Now I'm here in Port Charles as a butler. And then gave her information. Cause she was like, so we're on Spoon Island. He's like, damn it. Like he's like surrounded by this cold murky water. He's like, ⁓ okay. Like I'm like, goodness. And then it's like, you had Anna here.
La (44:36)
As a butler.
Right.
Chanelle (44:51)
I mean, that's because she got too close like you. I'm like, like he has been just flailing. And so by the time that Sonny was like, look, we will set you up with a new identity. We will help you get out of Port Charles, we just need a little information on said, well, he's like, what do you want to know? Here's the code for the safe. I did not kill Marco. Just don't kill me basically. And
La (45:21)
Lucas took the initiative, went to the safe in Wyndemere, and got the pictures that Sonny and Laura had held over their heads by Sidwell of them supposedly committing the murder of Professor Dalton. Well he got those pictures, brought back to Sonny. Sonny burned them, and Laura's like, we're free. And Lucas is like, Hold on there, Mayor. We're we still got work to do.
Chanelle (45:28)
And the proofs.
Again, I feel like he's tasted revenge. Now he is on the hunt for more justice for Marco and he's gonna take down Sidwell. And I don't think Sidwell has even noticed the changing.
La (45:57)
Yep.
He's too busy,
very upset about the Pascal situation.
Chanelle (46:06)
but that's what we need. We need him not on his game and distracted, not only with the Pascal thing, because even before Pascal and Fitzpatrick came in the picture, you had, had Tracy, you had Brook Lynn and you had Lucy confront him being like, yeah, deception, we want you out. We don't know what shady business you got going on, but we want our company back. And he's like, without me.
La (46:09)
Distract it. Yeah.
Chanelle (46:29)
ladies his company would fail they're like we're willing to take that chance we will build again if it falls under and he's like what is up with these women what is going on in Port Charles?
La (46:40)
And then Joss
with her whole lighting thing, she like you said, figured out that she was on Spoon Island. She gets out of the door with she jimmied it and she gets the door open and instead of going through the catacombs or a back door.
Chanelle (46:43)
⁓ Joss.
Yeah, I feel like, thank you, Anna.
La (46:59)
This woman tries to walk out of Wyndemere in the front door and gets caught with gun in hand by Sidwell. And he is like, There's no need to keep you alive. And he's about to kill her, but Cassius saves her because after Pascal makes a run for it, There's an APB out on him. And
Chanelle (47:03)
⁓ the audacity.
La (47:19)
Luckily Cassius is like, I'll go to Wyndemere because if Fitzpatrick had come back and seen that gun, he'd probably be dead because Sidwell would have killed him. So Cassius is like, no no no no, you can't kill her. And then she leaves behind a clue in hopes that somebody sees it, her ring she puts near the sofa. So I guess that's to indicate to whoever finds it, most likely Lucas, that she's there.
Chanelle (47:45)
I need some sort of revelation, awakening of the mind to understand that we don't want this stretch out too much longer, but now we're cooking with grease and firing up on all cylinders.
La (47:58)
You know who else did that little move?
The ring move? Daenerys on
Game of Thrones. Remember she dropped her ring in the woods and that's how it was indicated where she was.
Chanelle (48:08)
I do remember, I do remember.
And look, and the fact that Pascal, look, he's not gonna be vacuuming anytime soon, so somebody gonna find that, ring.
La (48:16)
⁓ right, there's no cleaning going on.
Chanelle (48:19)
Somebody gonna find that ring. ⁓ That's true. But while they're doing all this, we still have to deal with Cullum being just the golem, if you will, of Port Charles because he is threatening to kill Brennan, messing with his tubes and everything else. Then he has Pascal being like, okay, we gotta worry about him. He's still upset that.
La (48:20)
You better hope you better hope it's not Sidwell.
Chanelle (48:45)
while the distraction of trying to figure out who killed Marco, Britt is on the run. They need to finish this project and they still need a little bit more time. But through it all, now they realize not only is Britt on the run, but you have a Rocco with her. And they were like, you know what? I don't think Dante put out any kind of APB with the FBI. Wonder why that is. They're like, you know what? He doesn't want me to figure it out. So now I think
Sidwell and they know basically that it's Rocko who shot Detective Cullum.
La (49:21)
Yes. And please break down Liesel's awesome discovery of Drew.
Chanelle (49:30)
Well, because as they search for Brita, so does her mama because she's like, she just ran off and she's like, no, she's like, this does not seem like what something Britt would do. She needs money.
La (49:41)
Which is kinda stupid
because did she or did she not pretend to be dead for yet?
Chanelle (49:46)
That is a mother's love through and through because she was like, it couldn't be just Britta. My darling would never. So she comes up to Willow's house with Drew and is like, okay, either Willow with your congressional willing and dealing to help her go international or it could be you Nina because you have the money and the means and motive to help her. And they're both like, we didn't do either of those things. And while she just kind of rolls up in the house, Drew is out in the living room.
La (49:48)
Yes.
Chanelle (50:14)
And you know how we feel about this eye choreography that he's been doing because he is blinking. And she's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Oh, you just put some glasses on him. And they're like, why? Because she's like, and Nina's like, oh yeah, it's creepy. She's like, no, because he's been saying S-O-S since I got here. And they just stop. And they're like, what? No, it's just muscle movements, just spasm. She's like, mm-mm. She's like, you know I know the game and how to play. She's like, that is the international symbol for help.
And that's SOS, see, long, short, SOS. What's going on? That was so, like, the comedic moment, like, and we know,
La (50:50)
I was done. And then remember
she told Nina she was like, Your daughter is a viper. You like her if you want to, but she is going to bring down the world.
Chanelle (51:01)
It really- it is one of those things where it's like, ⁓ Liesl, the comedic relief, we didn't know we needed until we had it because they're like, ooh.
La (51:09)
I have
loved Liesel for the longest time, but then now she's in trouble because Cullum feels that the best way to try to smoke out Britta is by taking her mom. But what I'm laughing at is you do realize Cassius is not gonna be pleased that you took his mama either. And he's not Nathan. He's not a nice one. So Cullum, you might have crossed the line.
Chanelle (51:14)
Yes.
It's not a kill, but don't push him. And the fact of the matter is they do need her brilliance because they were like, if we don't have Britt, who is smart enough and who can understand it to finish the project? Yeah, it's gonna be, it's gonna be lethal. But again, with the kidnappings, you're gonna have to be like, people gonna start noticing you just swiping up people.
La (51:40)
⁓ yeah, the sheet project. Yep.
They're just vanishing for no reason.
Chanelle (51:55)
It really is. And speaking of vanishing, at one point I thought Valentin would, but he did it. But he was called to the rehab facility of Brennan. And at first he was like, no, I could be a trap, but that special code word ex machina. And he was like, no, he means business. It's serious. I must go. Must see him in person. And they go.
La (51:57)
Yeah.
Chanelle (52:19)
And this was also set up by Nina who was hurt that Valentin not only didn't reach out to her first, is in a tumultuous love affair with Carly. And it's like, I could have helped you, but no, now you're with her and I have to bring a message from Brennan and best of luck basically. So she's not telling, but she has to deal with her own issues because Willow and Chase are getting closer. So close that Willow's like, you know what?
I need help on my team. Why don't you come and get a job with me as my chief of staff? Mind you, I thought with the hype up and talking about his service with law enforcement, that she was gonna say, my, you know, head of security, my bodyguard. I feel like that was a missed opportunity, because chief of staff, it's a stretch. But I mean, again, they said because he's basically a deadly do-right type person that it should work out. We'll see how it does.
La (53:14)
But he knows nothing
about politics.
Chanelle (53:15)
Absolutely
nothing, no willings and dealings. I was like, you need the person willing to grease palms and whatnot. And if you're not the person willing to grease palms, at least someone who has a generic inkling of what's going on. Cause I'm like, Kai was apparently a good person who knew that he could be what Drew needed. But hey, here we are. Uh, but through all of this, you have Brennan who's like, I didn't take Joss. You have Willow who's like, come be with me, Chase. And then you have Tracy who saw them in a moment.
because Willow just can't keep her hands off Chase after seeing him shirtless for so long. It's like, I get it, sis, I get it. But you're not moving smart at all because Brook Lynn has already seen you hugging up on him and he was so grateful you helped him get Phoebe. And then you were so grateful that he believes in you, that she was trying to come by your house, brought you a little candy bowl type thing. It was like, yeah, stay away from my husband.
You back up. And she was like, what? Me? No, we're just, we're good. But we know that Michael is kind of playing puppeteer in the background and was like, you know what? I don't like Chase. Definitely don't like Willow. I can set them up to cheat because the way that they look at each other, something is brewing. And now he has Jacinda helping him where it's like, oh shoot, I dropped my sunglasses into this lake, oh.
darn what could ever happen in a Chase being Chase, I'll help you. I'll find them. So he gets them out and he sees Willow in a bathing suit. She sees him just basically buff and shirtless in his swim trunks. They talk and reminisce again to say that he has no feelings whatsoever for Willow, talking about missing rubbing her feet. I'm like, sir.
You in so deep and I feel like your feelings haven't changed that much that you don't even realize that you are playing with fire. And through these conversations and these hugs, Tracy sees them and is smart enough not to interrupt, just listen in and watch. And she was like, Chase, pack up your stuff, get out my house. How dare you cheat on my granddaughter? You a scum. And he's like, wait, what?
And while Brook Lynn is trying to be the dutiful wife, her spidey senses are tingling. And she knows that she's already confronted Willow and she's even called now on the help of Lucy because it's like one mistress who would know playing the sidekick role. And if she's being crazy is Lucy. Lucy's like, I don't think that's above board. That does sound a little suspicious to me. And she's like, I would know. So.
I think as we move closer, they're going to have a stumbling, if you will. And it's only going to get worse now that Willow is trying to attach herself to Chase and vice versa. And he's just over the moon because with Willow's help and a closed adoption because of Ethan, again, we called it. We know that
La (56:25)
Ha ha.
Chanelle (56:27)
He even is Phoebe's father and he's like, look, I can't take care of her. I would rather have her in the Quartermaine house. The lap of luxury living as the heiress that she deserves to be. I'm gonna have a closed adoption. They can have my baby enjoy. And you have Alexis who has to deal with Willow
and then Willow bringing back and helping Chase and hugging even in their office. I'm like, girl, stop touching this man. And pretty much she's like, we're just a great team, you, me, Chase, here and Alexis. Alexis is like, this has nothing to do with me beyond just getting this legal stuff set up. And she's like, no, no, we're a great team. She's like, how so? Well, because you helped me, you know.
La (56:55)
Yeah, give her hand off him.
Chanelle (57:13)
fight the charges and Chase is like, that's cause you're innocent darling. And he's like, mm-hmm, Alex is like, go on. And she's like, you know, I just, I just want to thank you. because the setup is going to be great for the fall that Michael has coming their way. Because now you have Michael who's plotting against you. have Tracy who wants to plot against you, or at least is keeping a closer eye on Chase.
La (57:19)
Ha ha
Chanelle (57:36)
You have Brook Lynn and her spidey senses and Ethan just kind of floating about because after the close adoption he's like, I'm good. But then he has to make sure that Ava doesn't tell any kind of secrets because she knows that he's Phoebe's parent because she went with Alexis to hear more about Delilah. I'm like, see this bold and beautiful and young and restless is how you connect stuff. And I appreciate it.
La (58:02)
And of course Ava is like, my silence will cost you.
Chanelle (58:06)
As it should.
La (58:08)
As we all knew, Ava doesn't do nothing for free.
Chanelle (58:11)
Yeah. And speaking of free, I'm going say free your mind because out of all the ways to get rid of Christina, this whole...
La (58:20)
⁓ no, that was insane. This woman comes out of the blue talking about I decided to go to medical school. I got into medical school and I got into medical school at UCLA.
Chanelle (58:35)
I I can't.
put nobody down, but I just wish they really thought about what we know about Christina in the past and what we've had to go through after, you know, Charlie's done burned down to be like, no, no, no, I'm not an entrepreneur. I want to be in the medical field. I applied and you know that I'm wishy washy, but I think I can do it. And if not, you know, at least I say I tried.
And I'm like, this is how y'all are trying to get Christina out the way?
La (59:05)
love even Michael was like wait what
Chanelle (59:07)
You
like medical school, that's where I'm going. Did you apply? I applied, I got in. You feel like a top medical school at that. And I'm like, girl, but you in New York, you couldn't have said Columbia, you couldn't have said something down the street. Hell, Johns Hopkins. Look.
La (59:20)
NYU like there
are too many places in the area that you could have stayed, but you prefer to go to the West Coast. when she spoke to Michael? That's what I thought she was gonna ask him. Do you know someone who can run Charlie's? I'll still own it, but I need somebody to run it because I'm not gonna be here unless you've taken the stuff online. But we know that the actress is leaving and they haven't said if they're gonna replace her, so
Chanelle (59:44)
Mm-hmm.
La (59:48)
She obviously has every intention of moving to LA.
Chanelle (59:48)
It's...
And then it's like, how long is she supposed to
be there? And then as we now know that Scout is about to be aged up tremendously. And I just want to know how is this all coming to be? Because at one point we thought that Molly was supposed to be going away on a book tour. So we're going to lose all of the Davis women.
La (1:00:10)
I guess it might be Alexis on her own.
Chanelle (1:00:13)
Mm-hmm. And then all of a sudden Scout just pops up as a teenager. This is gonna be very interesting. I mean, I'm here for it, but this is, side eyeing a little bit.
La (1:00:21)
I wonder if she can join the Scooby Gang, Dani and Charlotte.
Chanelle (1:00:25)
Yeah, because I mean with her being a teenager herself, I say she almost looks as old as Dani. So it's not gonna be like stay home Scout. Like I feel like she could drive like Charlotte. Like, good.
La (1:00:38)
All right, let's get to the DMV where we have Jacob dealing with survivors remorse about the loss of Derek. We have Ashley behaving as you like to call a widow, even though she wasn't even with the man anymore.
Chanelle (1:00:43)
⁓
Mm.
It was just a lot. And again, I hear the debates online about why are we giving Ashley so much screen time and not knocking the actress. It's really just the character and the way that they have her written. And the fact that most people have some sort of anchor versus indifference towards her. At least you could say she's doing her job. But yeah, the fact that she took off of work.
and has been moping around. We saw the Tide shout out with her doing her laundry and her efficiency. You know, cause that's all she looked just sitting around in them. And it's just this whole thing of the guilt that she has because he died. And of course he was on the scene because he heard from Grayson that she was in danger. But as Naomi had to point out to her, you didn't want that man when he was alive.
La (1:01:30)
Yes. I was like, Well at least your clothes are clean, girl.
Chanelle (1:01:52)
You couldn't forgive him after he lied about being able to walk. You gave him back the ring. So the opportunity to even be engaged was taken off the table. What are you doing? And then you have Grayson popping up, even though she's like, I told you to stay away. And he's like, look, I just wanted to check on you. And I just wanted to say it again, I'm sorry. And Naomi's like, the fact that you even opened the door to Grayson, is it possible?
that you still have feelings for him and you just don't know how to deal with those feelings because you have the guilt over not giving Derek the opportunity for a second, technically third chance. And she has to sit with that because again, Ashley's just Ashley. And if she's not whining or moping, then she sits in confusion and that's what she's doing at the moment. That's life passes by, but hopefully she gets out this funk.
because if she's not with Grayson and if she's not hanging with Naomi, what are you good for? Like even Shanice is at work. Hell, even Eva has to, you know, have a lunch date where they reminisce about Derek. So there are other people mourning, but they're giving you a whole lot of grace to sit in your big feelings about the man that you didn't want but thought you possibly could be with.
La (1:03:16)
So true. But we're really getting ready for the crossover this week. We have Victor Newman and the Abbots coming to the DMV to attend a fundraiser for Martin. Although we weren't really sure how we were going to do this, especially since the fact that we have not seen Diane and the concern that she might be missing, but she is dressed to the nines.
Chanelle (1:03:20)
Yes!
La (1:03:46)
in the promos. So we're under the impression that by Wednesday maybe, Tuesday or Wednesday, we will figure out how she was convinced to go with Jack and Kyle. It was revealed that Kyle knows Martin through the National Urban League.
Chanelle (1:04:02)
Mm-hmm.
La (1:04:02)
in
New York when they were in school together and that Victor contributed to Vernon's campaign and in turn wants to contribute to his grandson's campaign because he's always supported the Duprees. So he's gonna be the keynote speaker at Martin's fundraiser. And there's supposed to be some weather issue that's gonna cause chaos at the event.
Chanelle (1:04:30)
Tornado.
La (1:04:31)
Yes. And then we're gonna see what happens. But there's a lot to focus on. So we're gonna do our best this week to figure out how this crossover is going to play out. The promos were captivating, so I'm looking forward to it. I
see the prime opportunity for a crossover between Bold and the Beautiful and Beyond the Gates because fashion. You have Dani and her partner Pamela doing a modeling agency. Who better for Logan to try to get hooked up with than them to model their new stuff? But that's for another time, I guess. So we'll just focus on this one. Hopefully it works out and then I truly think we should consider a bold and the beautiful one.
Chanelle (1:05:20)
Yeah, I feel like we had the possibility with that because it only phone calls. But we know down the line, even with Young the Restless, it could be like a triple crossover where, you you start at LA, Maryland.
or Wisconsin and then you end up everywhere else because you have Fenmore. That's where the ChelseaKat bags are there. And then it's like for the fashion show, it's like we have the couture and we have the jewelry, but we don't have the accessories beyond that. And then it's like a ChelseaKat bag. And then we also need Dani because here we're losing Hope. Again, call us.
La (1:05:40)
Yes, everybody could end up in LA.
We need ChelseaKat. Yep.
Chanelle (1:05:57)
if you want some ideas that might actually move the needle a little bit more. Cause I love the idea that everybody's in the same universe in the soaps world, but I want more interactions that makes sense. And then I feel like with Devon, like we said, he's been on his hateration tour, but with the Articulletes and now that Miss Anita is feeling a whole lot better, we know they'll be in town soon. So that is prime opportunity for him too.
La (1:06:08)
Correct. Yes.
It was also revealed through flashbacks how Hayley was able to infiltrate the Hamilton clan. She was initially targeting Joey Armstrong. And when she came to the DMV, Randy was like, uh-uh, that is a dangerous game that you don't want to play. But I got a better mark for you. His name is Bill Hamilton. He's a very affluent
attorney here in DC, Maryland and Virginia, all you gotta do is seduce him. And the best entryway is his oldest daughter, Naomi. Friends with her,
get in the house, do a little flirty mcflirty with Mr. Egomaniac, this younger woman because he doesn't really spend time with his wife because she's always traveling with their youngest daughter who's a model. So you get to see how she introduced herself to Naomi through a Pilates class. And then she's just like, I don't know anybody.
I don't know the area. This is a fresh start for me. And Naomi like, I'll help you. It's not a problem. And one thing leads to another. They become very, very close. She reveals everything that's wrong with her parents' marriage. And Hayley is just lapping it up with a spoon, more ammunition for her mark. And then she needs a job. And Dani being so kind is
Hey, any best friend of Naomi is a friend of the family. You need a job. Bill needs a paralegal. You are smart. You can learn. Dani initiated her getting a job there because she was sympathetic to her daughter's best friend. And that's when Hayley starts wearing, as she puts it, it's not inappropriate to have cleavage and a slit up to my thigh, is it? And of course Bill is like, absolutely not, girl. The other people dress like 50 and 60-year-old women.
You dress like a woman. So you get all of the information on how he was able to be seduced by Hayley. And then the worst part is when it's revealed to Dani that he is seriously into Hayley. They are thinking that.
Chanelle (1:08:18)
How dare you.
La (1:08:37)
Chelsea and Dani are on their way to a trip for the modeling and he's packing, they're getting ready to roll out. Hayley is in one of his shirts with no pants and is just walking around like she owns the place in their bedroom. Chelsea comes first up the stairs, catches them together, and she's like, What is this whore doing at my house? And he's like, Don't talk to her that way. He chastises Chelsea, and then Dan.
Dani
tries to come up and Chelsea tries to stop her, but she pushes past and sees this. And she's like, I put up with the waitresses, I put up with the paralegals, I put up with all these other women. And now you have the audacity to bring this woman into our home. And he's like, She's not just a woman, she's the woman I love. And you just see Dani gobsmacked by that declaration. And he's like, I'm leaving you. And to me,
Chanelle (1:09:26)
Yeah.
La (1:09:30)
Even though we've had to deal with Nicole thinking about Ted and Miss Anita's like I can see that both of you still have feelings for each other. I feel like audiences would be more accepting if unfortunately Shanice gets the shaft and Nicole and Ted get together than if Dani and Bill get together. Because Andre listened to
Dani going on about, hey, I brought attention to Bill that Mike was, a terrible person and that he never noticed. And that made me remember how much I tried and how Hayley took over my family and all of that. And he, It was not your fault. I love you now. Don't even worry about Bill. He's your past.
I know as an audience, as a viewer, I would not take seeing how horrific Bill was in dumping Dani, if she took him back, I don't know if I could accept that.
Chanelle (1:10:29)
So true.
La (1:10:31)
But we're excited about a crossover. let's see GC meets DMV, how that goes with Victor Newman and the Abbots.
Chanelle (1:10:41)
yeah, also just the whole Jacob and the whole commendation ceremony thing that he had at the police precinct.
La (1:10:50)
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I mean, I don't think it was necessary because he did not catch the impaler. A civilian died. I just don't think he deserved any alcolades for that, but his father did, the the chief of police Elon. So they did the whole to-do. His mom invited people and made her famous chocolate cake.
Chanelle (1:11:03)
Elon. Yeah.
La (1:11:12)
And he was in a funk because he does feel guilty and the fact that Derek died saving his life. And Naomi has been trying and trying to talk to him and let him know Derek did what he did because he believed in what you were as a cop and you can't feel bad about this. And he's like, I will not rest until any and all people involved in the impaler is taken down. That is my life's mission now. And so they have the thing, and he leaves the
event early 'cause he can't take it anymore.
Chanelle (1:11:43)
true. Anybody say Darlene his mama though? She was on one.
La (1:11:47)
Yes.
Darlene does not like Eva. She has made it clear to Izaiah. He is like
If you make me choose between Eva and you, you ain't gonna like the outcome. So she tries to placate and she's like, you can help me with the plates and stuff and everything. And she's like, see, I know how to play nice and you need to do the same with your father. But then Leslie busts in for no reason because she's feeling some kind of way because it's hilarious to me the fact that she's like, Eva, you all up on your dad. You all up on work.
You don't have time for me anymore. She's like, I'm doing what you asked. You brought me to town to get along with my dad. I helping the clinic because Derek is dead and you need somebody to run it. I am with Izaiah because you said I need a man in my life. Why are you complaining?
Because she has nobody. Malone is sort of dating her, but he's just hitting it and quitting it in my eyes. She doesn't have any real friends. Jan has, Ashley to deal with, so she really not hanging with her. Mona doesn't give her the time of day. So she's lonely. And Eva was, I brought you here to give you all this stuff.
Chanelle (1:12:43)
He
La (1:12:55)
Well, you gave it all to her, so now she's occupied. I'm sorry, you need to learn a hobby or something. So she busts over at the event at the police station and talks crap about Darlene's cake, threatens her as you know, don't be talking about my daughter, I'm a whoop your butt. Like, really, we're in a police station. Like you you're already on their list with your, you know, Justice for Laura.
Chanelle (1:13:15)
Threats.
La (1:13:21)
You really don't wanna make idle threats to the chief of police's wife. That just seems in bad taste, but that's her middle name, Leslie Bad Taste Thomas. And to me. And so that whole episode was a lot.
Chanelle (1:13:36)
Mm-hmm. And this upcoming week with... There we go.
La (1:13:40)
The impaler. The impaler
called Joey and was like, I want to set up a meeting. And of course, Joey has told Vanessa. He's told Elon. He's told Donnell. Everybody who asks, I ain't got nothing to do with the impaler. I don't know about the blood plasma ring. I'm not involved. And who calls them? The actual person. So Randy is assigned to set everything up.
Make sure nobody's allowed to get near. But of course, Vanessa walks in, no knocking, hears about the impaler meeting, is like, I want to be there. He's like, How many times I gotta tell you what I do, you can't always be a part of. It's just in your best interest and it'll keep you alive. So you are to go home. Randy, take her home and watch her. And of course, Randy doesn't. After Vanessa talks him out, she's like, I will stay here. You just go. And so he comes back and
Joey's like, Randy, I done told you. He's like, no, no, no. I got somebody assigned to her. Don't worry. So at the end of Friday's episode, the impaler walks in and we're convinced it's Heather. His sister is the impaler.
Chanelle (1:14:50)
If this is true, then I will gleefully say we called it as usual.
La (1:14:58)
Cause you love to say
when we call it. But I mean, Ashley Jones is too good of an actress not to have a profound position on the show. And in my head, if you're not gonna make her Madison's mom, who's doing all of the terrible advice online about medicine in her daughter's name, she is ideal as a criminal boss.
Like her brother. And you've brought up Heather's name too many times in the last couple weeks about him reminiscing. He wishes he could contact her, but he was told not to. Vanessa trying to find out where she's been. You don't bring her up unless you're gonna bring her in. So we're convinced that's gonna be Ashley Jones. And if so, I wanna see her as a boss lady. That'll be cool.
Chanelle (1:15:51)
A woman in a male dominated industry, I'm here for it.
La (1:15:55)
Women can be criminals too.
Chanelle (1:15:58)
darn good criminals.
La (1:16:01)
Yes. Well, that concludes this week's episode of Lather of La. we're gonna keep watching them stories because we do it for who? Every week, Bye.
Chanelle (1:16:05)
and Chanelle.
We do this for you.