Dead Roses & Pickleball Out of Context | Danielle w/ Paddle Battles

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 🔹 Plus, Danielle from Paddle Battles joins us to talk about building a following with funny reels, Rhode Island pickleball pride, and becoming a literal cartoon in a children’s book

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It's coming soon. Follow at dink underscore and underscore dash. Now, do it now. Kitchen Talk, we have Valentine's Day coming up. One of the biggest made up holidays in the United States. It's almost here, so bad decisions are about to be made by husbands everywhere, and maybe some wives too. So I wanted to talk about the worst Valentine's Day gifts, dates, or ideas that maybe you want banned forever or should be banned forever.

speaker-1 (02:03.508)
or just a story you may have to share about a Valentine's Day that you've had.

Well, I know gift wise, this hasn't happened to me, but gift wise, I don't understand like the big, huge stuffed animals. Okay. I'm just thinking, where is that living after the 14th? Like where, like people think ahead, okay? Same thing with the carnival, like don't get that and have to drag it around for four hours at Six Flags. I just, I don't like them. I don't know why they exist. And I think it's a terrible idea.

Yeah, I mean, I think we leave that for the, you know, preteen, early teen girls to get it at a carnival. I just... Yeah, because, I mean, you could throw that in the corner of your room, on your bed, with all the other...

don't like it.

speaker-2 (02:50.038)
an adult, where is that living? It's literally going to just collect dust somewhere and or be donated the next week.

Also, I'm thinking, did you have $55? It probably could have gone somewhere else. I agree. We could have put that on food or something. Paddle Princess, I know you have a story.

Yeah

speaker-3 (03:07.886)
pretty good story about Valentine's Day. It was our second Valentine's Day in Texas, my husband and I, and I had literally wrote it all out for him. I know, Steph, you don't like the melting pot. I love the melting pot. And I wrote the phone number down. I told him exactly what I wanted him to.

what package, what wine I wanted, what flowers I wanted, everything. I had it all set. All he had to do was make the phone call and make the reservation, right? So it's Valentine's Day. I'm at work. One lady, her husband sent a quartet to come sing to her. Everybody's getting. Everybody's like, and I am, okay, paddle princess. I am a princess. I loved, I love to be doted on. I like the, I mean.

No waste

speaker-1 (03:57.006)
I am... ...Stra!

circumstance.

I actually, I like that kind of stuff. Like I wanna be spoiled, I love that. None of that happened. Okay, I get home from work and I'm like so excited because I think that he made the reservation like I asked him to. And he's in basketball shorts and a t-shirt and he's grilling steaks. I'm like, what are you doing? And he's like, well, basketball's on. I don't care, you're taking me out to dinner. Like what are you doing watching basketball? Why aren't you dressed?

So he's like, I thought that we would just grill steaks and watch basketball. I hate basketball. I cannot stand the sound of the squeaky shoes. I don't like basketball. I am scared. Like my brain, it's too much. It's too overstimulating. I can't handle it. This is awesome. he's got basketball blaring. He's grilling steaks. And I'm like, OK, whatever. Like, I'll just get over this. We'll go on another night. So then he brings me my card. My card was him writing like a sweet little I love you message.

on the back of the HEB receipt that he bought my roses with that were 50 % off because they were half dead.

speaker-1 (05:04.942)
So were they a dozen?

yes, I think they were a dozen, but they were half dead, so they were 50 % off, and my card was the back of the receipt. And, okay, there's more. So I'm already just done. Like, I'm done at this point. We're still married, by the way, in case anybody's ever wondering. Not only that, but while he was getting stuff ready, he broke the champagne glasses from our wedding that were engraved. So that happened on Valentine's Day. That was my wonderful Valentine's Day. And of course,

After that, after I found out he broke my champagne glasses, like they were crystal, they were real crystal, they had lots of actual value and sentimental value. I was livid, and he learned real quick that, yeah, no, he's not gonna treat me like that on Valentine's Day. Drastically, but we're not done yet. So then, I'm like, okay, you are going to make this reservation, you are going to make this up to me, we are going to go to the melting pot. Like, I I love the melting pot. So he does. I end up getting stuck at work.

Does it improve?

speaker-3 (06:06.496)
So I get home extra late and I go into the house, I throw on my dress, I fix my hair real quick, I grab all of my jewelry and I grab all of my makeup. Okay, we're talking lots of money. So by the time we get home from Austin, which is an hour and a half drive, it's late AF and I just wanna get in the house. So we get in the house, I was like, I'll get my stuff in the morning. That night, my car got broken into and all of my jewelry and all of my makeup got stolen.

if he would have just taken you on Valentine's Day.

I feel like instead of wanting to grill steaks and watch basketball. I don't I don't want that. I want to be pampered. I to be a princess

Has he tried making a coupon book?

feel like he's also like, I grabbed this candle at the checkout for you.

speaker-3 (06:54.38)
I was like, what are you thinking? What is happening?

You pretty much put like the SOP together for him.

Literally, I wrote it all out. I had it in order. We will leave it this time, make the reservation at this time. This is the order that I want. I want this bottle of wine waiting. this is, all you need to do is call and do it. Wow. So that was my Valentine's Day.

Yeah, just.

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe the handwriting was off. feel like with the flowers, it was only your second anniversary. So throw away 10. Some of them were dead. And just give her two.

speaker-3 (07:29.614)
my second Valentine's Day in Texas. That was the Valentine's Day after our son was born. So we'd been married for a couple years at that point.

my.

speaker-1 (07:39.33)
Well, I don't know if anybody out there can top that. I would love to hear your Valentine's Day, I don't know, the day to the gifts or the ideas that just fell flat, didn't go. No, absolutely, absolutely not. The only reason we celebrate is because that's when the best Reese's come out. The heart-shaped Reese's, the chocolate to peanut butter ratio, just like the Christmas trees is to die for. That's the Reese's.

We don't really celebrate.

speaker-3 (08:07.394)
The is, my husband was in the Air Force. We were young at that point, very young. We had very little money. That year we actually had some money saved up to be able to afford to have this nice dinner. And then that happened and all of my stuff got stolen. And I was just like, okay. Now I'm old and I'm like, I don't wanna go and see people. I don't wanna have to do my hair.

wants to take you and you're like no thank you.

I don't want all of that, but we were young and in love and I was just like, like I want to feel fancy.

I do see the idea here though, because this is kind of diabolical actually. think, like I do in most things, I set the bar really low initially for me, for people meeting me. And then when I step over that joker and you're like, holy crap, wow, he's better than I thought. I set you up for a failure and set me up. He was setting the bar low so he can now overachieve.

Maybe that's what his goal

speaker-0 (09:02.574)
I agree.

I just don't think he was ready for the amount of celebration of things that I do.

That is valid. You are a celebrator.

I am a birthday celebrator. I love to celebrate and I love to, I want it to be a great Valentine's Day. It was a horrible Valentine's Day and the week after that was horrible because I had to spend another week fighting with the insurance company who didn't give me hardly anything of what was stolen out of my car. But yeah, that's my Valentine's Day story. After that I stopped asking for anything.

I'm out of shots.

speaker-2 (09:36.237)
I can't top that.

No, famously for the past over 20 years we just do not celebrate this made-up Hallmark holiday No, unless we're trying to get candy out of it. Yeah, tell us your stories if you've got one out there I don't know that you can top paddle princess. I'm sorry for those of you out there that maybe have a bad story Maybe this is the year that you are an overachiever and you do it right, but you've been warned act accordingly

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speaker-1 (10:32.57)
Quick pickleball wisdom in and out before you know it. Listen, one of the most common mistakes made by beginner players like me is too much movement. Well, that's not my problem. Both in footwork and paddle motion, all the big swings and added steps decrease your efficiency. I'm all about efficiency and low drag. It takes time away from hitting the ball, which you should be doing a lot more of, especially to the other side of the net when appropriate.

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It's time for Pickle Pals!

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We're talking to someone who's living proof that pickleball social media isn't just about trick shots and sponsored posts. It's about building real community. I want you to meet Danielle, the creator behind Paddle Battles. You're going to want to know that name and go over on Instagram after this and look it up. Who's connecting Rhode Island's pickleball scene one post and tiny, tiny state at a time.

She works with Ocean State Pickleball Club, appears in children's book about pickleball. We're to talk about that. It wants to tell you why the online pickleball world is the most supportive corner of the internet. And we think so too. From Narragansett, Rhode Island, we have Danielle with Paddle Battles. Thanks, Danielle.

Hi, thanks for having me, Guy, and congrats on 50 episodes.

Yeah, gosh, we're really doing something here. Yeah. There was a stat that like 90 % of podcasts don't go past one and then even fewer go past two. So maybe, I don't know if it's our tenacity or just stupidity. I'm not sure yet.

It's your dynamic personalities.

speaker-1 (12:06.12)
that's right. So paddle battles, a great name, obviously. What is it and how did you kind of land on?

So I started making silly little reels just to send to my friends by text when I first started playing pickleball and they loved them and that it gets such great feedback. And they said, you should put these somewhere. And I thought about it for a while and I didn't do it. And then I started sending them to my mom and her friends who play pickleball. And they say, well, where can we see this every day? And so I bit the bullet and I started on TikTok and I started posting them there and just kind of snowballed onto Instagram.

and it's been a lot of fun. I'm one of those people I get a kick out of myself. So I don't know if anybody's watching them, but before I go to bed, instead of doom scrolling the news or any negativity against Drake May, I will go to my own page and watch my own reel and just laugh myself to

Yeah, no.

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Yeah.

speaker-1 (13:03.598)
I love it. Yeah, I think that's why we do the podcast too, is we're just people that like to listen to ourselves and we think we're funny. So that's that's what it's

There's so much humor in pickleball!

my gosh, yeah, if you're paying attention, if you're paying attention, you're not one of the serious, serious snobby people, then absolutely. Number one, you shouldn't be taking yourself seriously. And number two, there is a ton of humor out there. It makes for good.

much. Yes and it's all relatable because we all go through the same things. You can't remember the score, you can't remember which side you're serving on, can't hit against the wind, you can't hit a lob against the sun. Like everybody experiences the same thing so it's very relatable.

Yeah, absolutely.

speaker-1 (13:40.982)
Now are you someone who's getting recognized now when you go out, you're an influencer now and you're getting recognized?

Well, funny, I played in the US Open three, two years ago with my friend Lynn and somebody came up to me just out of nowhere and started yelling, battles, paddle battles. And I hadn't even told my friend Lynn that I was doing that, because it was just in its infancy two years ago, really. And she said, what is he talking about? And he came over and he's like, I'm your biggest fan. I'm like, my God, I have a fan.

That was the one and only time out of Rhode Island that anybody yelled paddle battles or recognized me. But now since I've been doing it for a couple of years, word has caught on at Ocean State Pickleball. That's my home court and the other pickleball facilities. And so when I play in a tournament locally, somebody, there's always somebody who'll usually say, I was hoping you'd be playing in this tournament. I always wanted to meet you. So it's been great. No, no stalkers.

Great. Any stalkers yet?

speaker-0 (14:42.89)
No, no stalkers. Okay, well, that's good. I don't know if that would be a badge of honor or not.

Yeah, I'm not sure how that works. Is that like, okay, I finally made it now. Yeah. Hey, just shout out to all the stalker, pre-stalkers out there. If you're looking, I'm here. Come on. So you're, you do a ton of content. love your content on there. So what do you think for, from your perspective, what makes great content?

The relatable aspects of pickleball, like I was saying before, just the connections it makes with people. Like I'll get in the comments a lot, that happened to me yesterday. I can't stand people like that. I know exactly who you're talking about, that type of thing. So it's just, it's the connection, the relatable connection. And finding humor in it instead of becoming frustrated with it.

Because there's a lot of incidents, as I'm sure everybody knows, playing pickleball, there's a lot of things that can be very frustrating about people and about the game. But if you add some humor to it, you don't take it so lightly anymore. You're laughing at the end of the day and you're enjoying the sport.

Yeah, yeah, I absolutely love that that aspect of it. There's so it's, you know, the mental health aspect. I talk about it all the time on the podcast, how important that is and what it does for people. And the laughter just hitting all the dopamine centers and all that. It's just it is kind of a super sport. And I think people sleep on that. So I'm so glad you're out there putting out great, lively and funny content for that. And you do some of the marketing and social media or all of it for Ocean State Pickleball Club, is that right?

speaker-0 (16:02.062)
Thank you.

speaker-0 (16:08.366)
I don't anymore, I did before it was even opened, I was their marketing, social media and events planner. Wow. Yeah. And so I told the owner, Kara, she's a very good friend of mine. Once you get big and you have an indoor facility and you have so many members, I'll have to step down because you'll need a professional company, like a court reservoir. We were doing it all by hand. Oh my gosh. We accept checks for tournaments. Yeah. So I helped her.

builds the reputation and the business of Ocean State Pickleball. And I did that for two years. We built quite a following. We had fabulous tournaments. We were known all over. And then once she opened the actual facility with eight courts and a lounge and a bar and a restaurant, she really needed a professional company to come in and step up and take that role over.

Now, okay, so in everything that you're doing, has there been like a time when, because you talk about the online pickleball community showing up for people, has there been a time that really stood out to you or like, wow, this is special, I see it right here now?

I see it all the time on social media, on other people's accounts. People will be having a bad day and then the comments come in saying, keep on shining, keep on doing what you're doing. You put a smile on my face every day. You made me laugh yesterday. Please don't quit, keep on doing it. And I see that all the time, it's amazing. It's way more of that than the negative, which I think keeps us all, our spirit going.

Yeah, I think I think you're right. I do see less trolls You know you do see because it is so mainstream now You're seeing it in commercials over and over again And I've said famously that I don't know famously infamously But I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg of pickleball because we haven't even made it to the Olympics yet So, you know, I think we're at the bottom on our way up for sure. I know we see less trolls I think because of that

speaker-0 (17:57.356)
Yes, it's becoming more of a respectful sport in a way where Nike has just signed Annali Waters. That's a big deal. mean, you can't, Nike's not putting that on anybody who doesn't deserve it. know, that recognition. that was huge for pickleball. And I think from, I think that's going to skyrocket the sport even more. And I think it's going to attract a lot of younger people.

Yes, that's big.

speaker-1 (18:21.37)
Yeah, yeah, definitely will and man I see I get beat by eight year olds and ten year olds all the time. So yeah, they are show they are showing up Courts out there They're taking advantage of those young knees versus my old knees So in your area are most of the pickleball courts They've got to be indoors, right? Cuz you've got nine months of good skiing and three months of poor skiing pretty much, right?

Yes, they are.

speaker-0 (18:45.23)
Ice skiing, I call it. Yeah, that's why we all have weak knees as well. So we are so fortunate in Rhode Island. There are at least eight indoor facilities with four or more courts in them. And they've all just been popping up over the past two years. So three years ago, this weather, nobody's playing pickleball unless we went to Connecticut or to Massachusetts, you know. But now within a 30 mile radius, I can get to eight different facilities. Yeah.

Connecticut also known as Northern New York State.

When I was growing up in Revere, I didn't even acknowledge Connecticut. You'd have to name the states in New England and school, and every one of us would be like, Connecticut? That's part of New England? Is that really? Nobody ever knows.

We might have to concede that to the South. Although my dad's from Connecticut, so I feel like I do have to acknowledge it is part of New England.

Heart of New England. They mostly root for New York sports though in Connecticut. And then the only reason I know this is because my daughter went to Quinnipiac in Connecticut and all of her friends were like New York fans. I'm sorry for her. you doing?

speaker-1 (19:54.099)
gosh, how gross. I'm sorry for...

It's like being in a third world country. feel so bad for her. So the one thing I do know about New Englanders, huge, huge loyalty to brands. Do you see a lot of that loyalty to the facilities up there?

Yeah, do. feel like everybody's home court obviously is the closest that they live by. Mine is still Ocean State Pickleball because it's literally down the road from me. Right. But I feel like each club in this state has its own personality and it depends on the day. If I want a fun, lively match or a drop in, I'll go to Little Rody in North Kingstown. They have a much younger crowd, livelier crowd.

less intense crowd and it's a blast and they put on the funnest tournaments they have. There's one character there, I'll call my character, his name is Kevin. I won't say his last name but if he sees this he'll know who he is. Kevin could give aspirin a headache. He is the loudest person you will ever meet on a pickleball court and he loves to tell you what you're doing wrong. But everybody loves him and their tournament over the summer was a dink tank tournament and it said come dink Kevin.

nice.

speaker-0 (21:09.592)
So people got to dink them in the dink tank and that's like the personality of that facility. Yeah, Ocean State Pickleball has a whole other personality. It's a little bit more reserved, but it's very community oriented. Everybody's friends, everybody's friendly, that type of thing. Third Shot Drop is outdoors only in the summer and it's competitive, but friendly. So you know you can show up there at any given day and get a good match in and nobody's gonna scream.

Love that.

speaker-0 (21:37.998)
And Pickleball City is a new facility in Cranston who does a lot of work. They'll build their tournaments around local small businesses, which is fantastic. So they're giving all those local businesses shout outs and some exposure that they normally wouldn't get. So every facility has its own little- I like that. ... personality and it's great. Yeah.

Yeah, for people who have never experienced New England, then just adding in pickleball to that, that's almost like a package you could sell people. I don't know if it's a good package, like you want to punish someone. But for me, it would be a dream come true, obviously, going back up to New England and playing. yeah, loud New Englanders have to be experienced for sure. Yeah, that's right. So you were in a children's book from our friend Rachel Chateur, right? Yes. What is it? Where are the pickles in pickleball?

I'm proud.

speaker-0 (22:28.184)
where are the pickles in pickleball? She and I became friends on Facebook because obviously she used the hashtag pickleball and she's an artist and she's a musician and I love all that stuff. So somehow we got connected on Facebook and she sent me over to her Etsy store with her pickleball designs. You could purchase them on shirts and dresses on anything and her designs are fabulous. So I had her make me a dress.

How was that?

speaker-0 (22:56.482)
with one of her pink paddle.

Yes, yes, not for me, but yeah.

So I posted a picture of the dress for her to see that how much I loved the style of it. And she just happened to be writing that book and she literally put me in the book.

How's that seeing yourself as a cartoon?

That was insane. Yeah, it's in my mom. My mom has a poster of it in her living room.

speaker-1 (23:20.494)
Wow, all right. Way to go, mom. Yeah. Too big to put on the fridge, I guess. Yeah. So, okay, so you do a ton of stuff in the pickleball community and for the pickleball world. Someone's sitting at home right now. They're thinking about engaging in their pickleball community online, but they're nervous. What do you say to them?

Hey now!

speaker-0 (23:39.828)
just do it. Take a deep breath and do it because you will feel welcome very quickly and you will feel included and you will feel like there's people out there like me. Because there's such a variety of us and influencers out there and players out there that everybody feels included, I think, when they first start.

Yeah, I agree. see a lot of the creators out there and I'm famous for just saying, just do it scared. You know what mean? Just do it scared. Get out there, put your face on things and just, you know, everybody's got an opinion, so share your opinion. The Pickleball community is very opening and welcoming and loving and so if you've got a thought, just do it. Just crack that camera on and just send it.

I agree and they'll be happy they did it.

So five years from now, what is Danielle doing? What is Paddle Battle doing?

Well, the pickleball community in Rhode Island has given me so many different opportunities and I've met so many wonderful people. I feel like I want to give back to my community. So in lieu of posting things about pickleball merch, which I have been doing for the past few years, which I love to do. I love giving shout outs and exposure to small brands. I think I'm going to help out small businesses in my state. Oh, it. So approach them. Yeah, approach them and say, you know, do you want more exposure? I've got

speaker-0 (24:56.59)
12,000 followers between Instagram and TikTok. Most of them are Rhode Islanders and they don't know about your business and we could collab and it won't cost you anything. And I'll give a shout out to you, cause I don't do any of this for monetary purposes. do it because I get a kick out of myself. I really do. So that's why I do it. So I think that a lot of the businesses will be very receptive to that. And that's what I hope to be doing.

I love that. I love the giving back and helping people. That's just so altruistic, know, and it does come, you can tell it comes from the heart. When people go watch your videos, you can see everything is heart driven and it's all about laughter and having fun. So I love that. Speaking of that, how does everybody find you? What's all the social media handles they need to know?

It's Paddle Battles Pickleball on Instagram and TikTok. And hopefully soon I'll be doing a YouTube as well. Awesome. some shorts on YouTube, but I haven't set that up yet. So right now, Instagram and TikTok.

All right, Big Dick Energy Nation, pull your car over right now and go follow those pages. Danielle, thanks so much for being on the Big Dick Energy Podcast. We love it. We love what you're doing. We're going to be here side by side with you, supporting everything you do. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

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It's time!

Time.

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for your six pack. Pick six is where we take one question, each bring two answers and immediately regret agreeing to this segment. Pick six tonight, the question that I have is pick up all things that sound wild out of context. Pick up all things that sound wild out of context.

I like it when you take the middle.

I can't get it up.

Okay, okay, okay, all right. I was banging with strangers all morning.

Let's switch and see if it feels better.

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I wasn't ready for that speed.

Listen, I was on top the whole time but just couldn't finish.

What do you got? Get up in the bdepodcast.com page and tell us if you've got one for the pick six.

you can use.

Just in. Breaking!

speaker-3 (27:12.716)
Hahaha

You're obnoxious.

I was not expecting that.

Pickleball has, we're a little bit late to this, but this is our good friend over at Pickleball Kingdom. Pickleball has a reality show now. If you haven't seen it, it's good, go get on it. Pickleball Kingdom launched a reality competition series called Paddle Battle. It's on YouTube, premiering on January 14th, so not too far removed from that. New episodes drop in every Wednesday, 16 players, seven days of filming, four prizes. Two of those prizes are getting your own Pickleball Kingdom. wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

And it's kind of like what happens when a survivor on a duper ladder have a baby and raise it inside a franchise location.

speaker-3 (27:49.592)
Hahaha!

Interesting. I have not seen it yet, I it like flagged, know, like something to do, something to watch.

haven't either.

speaker-0 (27:56.91)
Yeah.

Two winners, one man, one woman, get pro contracts for a year based on their play. And then, like I said, two more winners get awarded an entire Pickleball Kingdom franchise. But those are decided by audience vote. Do skill challenges, cry in a confessional, and then decide if they deserve to own a business. It is on the YouTubes. Yeah, go get it. That's it for this episode. Unless you've got something to say, think we got it wrong, have a better take, we want to hear it.

You said this on YouTube?

Nice. Check it out.

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up on do.