Whiskey & Donuts
Whiskey & Donuts is where sharp analysis - and maybe a shot or two of speculation - meets unfiltered conversation, tackling politics, culture, and the issues that matter with a mix of logic, humor, and straight talk. No echo chambers, no nonsense -just real discussions with a side of wit and a strong pour of common sense.
Whiskey & Donuts
Transgender Mice Take Center Stage
Bitcoin is crashing, and Tré’s upset - but John’s got bigger concerns, like the billions being spent to find out whether LGBTQ rats can transition. In this episode, we take on the wild world of government spending, market corrections, and how it all affects your wallet.
We track the NASDAQ’s rollercoaster ride, from steady growth under Bush, Clinton, and early Biden to the COVID-era’s artificial inflation fueled by stimulus spending. But were those gains ever real? And now that the market is correcting, is this Trump’s doing, or just the inevitable fallout from pandemic-era policies?
Then comes the spending debate: Trump’s viral claim about $8 million for transgender mice research, verifiable USAID allocations - including $3 million for LGBTQ+ initiatives in the Caribbean - while domestic crises like Maui’s recovery remain underfunded.
With inflation, market uncertainty, and questionable spending priorities, we ask: Should taxpayer dollars stay home, or is global influence worth the cost? Let us know where you stand.
Subscribe, follow, and pour yourself another round of straight talk.
We're having fun, we're talking shit, and then something serious comes up. I'm like fuck. So I did want to. Let me take a quick peek. God damn it, bitcoin's still way. Oh my God, it's down even further, john.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh, my God.
Speaker 1:So can we talk about what you guys are doing to fucking crash the economy right now?
Speaker 2:come on, man, come on what we are doing to crash the economy yes, it's on purpose like I have anything to do with this, but hey, we can talk about it. Uh, so I I sent you a whole bunch of stuff this morning on that.
Speaker 2:Yes, you did, I'm still reading and I think and I mean I could be wrong, I'm just one guy that doesn't even know how to play in the stock market I think that if you look at the trend of the NASDAQ over the last I think I sent you a thing that went back to the 80s you can see the trend of it. It was going up and then our buddy, biden, got in and I believe it was like April 2020, something like that. We had a slight crash and everybody was like, oh, but I believe that also was covet. I think that's right. I think right about the time of the downtick from where trump was, because even biden had it on a pretty good uptick bush, clinton, all it. It's a pretty good up, uphill climb until covet and you can see where covet hit. So you can blame covet on.
Speaker 2:And you can see where COVID hit. So you can blame COVID on Trump or you can blame it on Biden or Fauci, whoever you want. But you can see a downtick in there where it crashed, and then you can see where the Biden administration started just pumping money into the economy and it went, it skyrocketed, and I think that's the economy that you're saying was a good economy, where you had started buying into the stocks and you're saying now that it's crashing. And if you listen to analysts, with the inflation the way that it was or is and everything being up the way that it was, it has to self-correct at some point because that's an inflated number. It wasn't ever real because of how much money was pumped into the economy by the government by just printing dollar bills, because of COVID, a lot of those things are true.
Speaker 2:All of those things are true. None of them were false. None of them were false.
Speaker 1:However, the correction that we're undergoing right now should have looked a lot. The slope should have been a lot smoother. That's my issue right now.
Speaker 2:Well, but the problem is you had Donald Trump come in and fucking take a sledgehammer to everything and it was never going to be a slow transition, and I think that's what people are panicking about. That's's what you've panicked about. You're like, look at what he's doing to my money, right, and you and you've blamed the whole thing on him and you're laying it at his feet, but you know, nobody's batting an eye at all of the billions of dollars that are being spent, funded for, to find out if lgbtq rats can transition in europe, like nobody's, nobody's bitching about any of those things. Uh, and it's, and it's silly to me, but I mean, it is what. It is right. We are where we are john, what, what is?
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't know the story. What is this thing with conservatives right now and the transgender mice? I've seen and heard this probably a dozen times the last several days, same.
Speaker 2:What is going on?
Speaker 2:I'm just picking up on it. I don't know if it's true or not, but at this point I can't say that it's not true. I can't say that it's not true. You know, I think that there was some funding that was sent to some country to get mice or something high on cocaine and find out if they're gay or not. I don't know, I'm making some of that up. I might not be making any of that. It might all be true. The people that are putting it out there might also be making it.
Speaker 2:You know memes are. You know they put a little bit of truth in a meme and throw it on the interwebs and then next thing, you know, people are just adding shit to it, like I just did, that mice are doing cocaine to find out if they're gay in europe. And next thing, you know, people are gonna be like there's game mice in europe snorting coke. What are we gonna do? Call an exterminator? I don't know. I don't know if any of it's. I don't know if any of it's true. Man, I don't know, but some of it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, the money that was being spent by USAID was definitely true. They, you know there was a lot of funding that went overseas to Iraq for, like Sesame Street, like that's a proven thing that they can say. There's a lot of outlandish spending that went to the LGBT community not even in our country. Right, it wasn't even to find out anything about that community in our country. It's our taxpaying dollars. Now, if USAID was pumping a billion dollars a year into the lgb community in the united states, you know you, I'm not saying I would sympathize with it, but you would get more people being understanding about it. Right, there would be people that would be like, oh okay, but when you're sending it to you, send like 500 million dollars to afghanistan to find out if gays can live in the streets over there. Come on now, like you know they can't, like that's not. Those people over there would fucking kill them so and that's just the way their religion is, that's just the way that those people are man.
Speaker 1:So apparently this this came about. I had to do some quick research right there. It was during the president's address to congress Congress last week that he claimed that the prior administration had spent $8 million to make mice transgender Right. John, yeah, john you know the man's a troll, oh my gosh. People have to know, wait. No, the man's a troll, oh my gosh. People have to know. Wait, don't people have to know that we've been doing experiments on mice for you know, generations?
Speaker 2:Oh for sure. But I think the problem is when USA I think the problem with all of it, if I'm being kind of serious, is why are we sending billions of dollars to other countries to do it Right? Why can't we just keep those billions of dollars in our own country? Why do we have to send it to Cuba or Afghanistan or Egypt or Japan or just name a country? Why are we sending them billions of dollars to do whatever lab rat stuff they're doing? And I think that that's that's more of the issue than than than trolling somebody and saying that they're trying to find out if they can do transgender studies on mice. You know what I mean? It's the amount that's being sent overseas to do those outlandish things.
Speaker 1:So what we did, we were able to look up and corroborate, was that we had 3 million from USA went to being LGBTQ in the Caribbean. I don't know over what period of time that was, but we do know it was 3 million. Oh, in 2023, there was an allocation of 25 million over five years, so five in a year for LGBTQI+. That was just international, but nothing sort of like, hey, here's some money, let's uh, let's spend it right, and I think the problem is where is that money really going?
Speaker 2:right? Why are we sending it overseas is? I think that's the bigger issue. At least to me it is. I don't really care what it's for, but if you just look at the overall number of money that we've sent out of this country to other countries to do silly things, I think that's more of the issue. Right, that's our taxpayers dollar and it's being sent overseas to do whatever with that's. That's more of the issue than the trolling the, the liberals. For what it was actually sent over there for, right. Like I said, if you spent half of that money was kept in the united states, you know, to help the lgbt community here in our country, I think you would have less pushback on why that was happening. I think you would get I think the left would get more sympathy for that. Not everybody would stand up for it. I don't think that we should be pumping that kind of money into any one single community of people.
Speaker 1:You know there's still houses that haven't been rebuilt in Maui, so yeah, you know, john, I have to say that it goes back to our prior conversation about USAID. It's hard to understand a lot of the expenditures in a vacuum, but I still hold that, even though certain things you know probably should not have been line items, have been line items. I would say that overall, usaid was and is a vital part of what we do to export Americanism globally. I mean, I don't know about you, but as a proud American, I would love for more of the world to be like us, not the entire world, but for more of the world not only to be like us but to look to us as an example of what democracy, free markets and equal opportunity mean. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Says the guy that wants our country to be a socialist country.
Speaker 1:We already are a socialist country, John we are a. Christian socialist country. We lie to ourselves when we say otherwise.