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Tasers, Tariffs & Tapioca: America 2025
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer gets blasted by her own side for doing her actual job - meeting with the president to fight for Michigan auto workers. We break down the outrage, the optics, and what it says about political tribalism. Meanwhile, Bill Maher also survives a visit to the White House and confirms that the real D-45 is very different behind closed doors, Starbucks tries to colonize boba, Marjorie Taylor Greene hosts a town hall that turns into a live-action “COPS” episode, and somehow chocolate chip cookies become the standard for rational discourse. Pour a whiskey, grab a donut - it's that kind of episode.
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Hello again, everyone, and welcome to another edition of Whiskey and Donuts. I'm your host, trey Scott. Today is April 16th 2025. Trey Scott, today is April 16th 2025. I'm here with my co-host, john Mack, who seems to have some exciting news he wants to share with us today, so I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to him to start us off.
John:I know that you don't follow the AOC thing too much and I think you were just comparing her to somebody else about something. But so her and Bernie this is completely off topic, sorry Her and Bernie Sanders are doing some kind of world tour. I don't know if they're going to try to run her for something in 2026 or if they're planning to try to run her for something the next presidential election. I don't know. But so they the whole social security thing, and I'm gonna make this quick the whole social security thing. They've proven that money's going to people that are dead or whatever. I don't know the exact numbers, but they've proven that it's happening. So she came out and said this, this it's not an exact numbers, but they've proven that it's happening. So she came out and said this it's not an exact quote, but it's almost an exact quote. She said how dare we take social security away from infants and children, even though they don't qualify for social security? Don't qualify for social security those families rely on and need that money, and that's the type of America that her and Bernie are fighting for.
John:I thought you're a special kind of stupid. That's that. First of all, the reason why they're taking it away from those people is because, well, they don't qualify for it. You said it because, well, they don't qualify for it. You said it yourself, but you want them to qualify for it. So then maybe you shouldn't be having that conversation. Maybe you should try to change that to where these people can qualify for this stuff. Anyway, that was my little tyrant, sorry. I don't know how we got off onto AOC, but good God, that woman's freaking dumb as a rock. I shouldn't know how we got off onto AOC, but good God, that woman's freaking dumb as a rock. I shouldn't even be insulting rocks.
Tré:I'm sorry, poor rocks. You know, let's go over to something else real quick while we have a moment. You know, while we're sitting up here trying to protect women's sports, starbucks said hold my boba tea. Sitting up here trying to protect women's sports, starbucks said hold my boba tea. Starbucks has a. Starbucks is saying we want to be Gen Z, so bad that they're bringing out these new like berry refreshers and they're calling them popping raspberry pearls. Now, it's not going to be tapioca and it's not even going to be real boba. It's not going to be tapioca and it's not even going to be real boba. It's just going to be like flavor grenades in like a juice cup. It's freaking diabetes. It's diabetes in a cup it just sounds so dumb, it's like.
Tré:It's like somebody like my age just discovered K-pop. They bought a silk robe on Etsy and now they think they invented Asia.
John:Have you ever had boba?
Tré:I've had it and it's Disgusting.
John:It is the most disgusting Thing ever. Like the texture, the taste of people are like it's so good. It is the most disgusting thing ever I have. Like the texture, the taste. People are like it's so good. I'm like, no, you know what's good. A chocolate chip cookie, god damn it. A chocolate chip cookie is so good. Everything else. Let's set the standard of what's so good before we start talking about what is so good, right? Absolutely. We can agree that chocolate chip cookies are really damn good, right? Yes, so good. Right, we can agree that chocolate chip cookies are really damn good, right? Yes, okay, so, so that's our standard of what's so good it is. It needs to either compare to that or be better than it, right? You can't say that boba is so good because it is not a chocolate chip cookie. So it's way below that, absolutely, oh, my god, my God, right, even people that, like Boba, love chocolate chip cookies.
Tré:You know, I know people who work at Boba Shop who won't drink the Boba. They literally get it free. They literally get it for a free discount and won't drink it. I do not blame them. I do not blame them. I do not blame them.
John:It's really bad when you need a special straw to drink your drink because of what you're putting in your drink. Oh my gosh, they have boba straws unreal. Where were those straws when I was a kid?
Tré:man freaking boba, I don't. Starbucks has been doing too much sometimes, and this is the literal definition of too much you know what I get at starbucks, what you get black coffee hey, is it still 50 cents, or is it still seven dollars?
John:no, no like two or three bucks or something. Everything's two or three dollars. I don't know if anything's 50 cents. My son asked me today. He's like a song came on, uh, and they were talking about two dollar beers in the song. And he said when or do you remember ever getting a into our beer? And I was like, not, really, not any time. Recently I remember when I was in college up at Humboldt State there was a brewery up there in Arcata and they did 50 cent tank nights. Wow, wow, you'd walk out of there freaking drunk.
Tré:Five bucks.
John:I got five dollars, I'm good 30 years ago, five bucks was a lot of money.
Tré:And this economy is about to be a lot of money right now. But I tell you it does show one thing though Starbucks can gentrify anything. Yeah, they sell cups. John, I know you don't watch too much news because you got work to do and stuff, but did you hear that this week Marjorie Taylor Greene, congresswoman out of Georgia, had a town hall and it turned into like an episode of Cops Because, like, apparently people got a little rowdy? Next thing I know people are getting tased. We don't. We don't have any details, we don't have any facts yet I just want to know who was getting tased.
John:Was it the right getting tased or the left getting tased?
Tré:I would say it looked like some. I'm thinking they might have been Bernie Bros. I did not think her fans were being tased.
John:Maybe you never know. You never know. Have you ever seen some of those Antifa fights when they're fighting right-wing people?
Tré:There's like eight people in a parking lot and then like 16 more people standing around them, and then the camera has to get right in the middle and stay close and not let the viewing public see that there's actually no one else there.
John:Right, no, but have you seen the fights that have happened between Trump supporters and Antifa people? Were there like stage fights?
Tré:Oh, I don't think so. No, just wild fights. I've seen some like like some nonsense out there, but but what's have you ever?
John:seen like well, I was just wondering, because we're talking about like bernie bros getting tased at her at her town hall and like I've seen some like ex-military dudes that are like big guys, bigger than both of us, like six plus 270, big burly, look like they just came straight out of the Iraq or Afghanistan war. They've been there for 20 years and these Antifa guys come running up to them with baseball bats and they just freaking, start doing work on these kids. I'm just like holy shit. It's funny to me because that's what they get.
John:You know, and you know, I guess, if you're going to go to a convention whether it's a Republican convention or a Democratic convention because there are Republicans out there that deserve this shit just as much as as there are democrats but if you're going to go to these things and you're going to protest and cause scenes and disrupt and you're going to make that scene and then you're not going to leave and comply with security or the police, I guess that's what you get. That's the way. You know what it means, if you want to come up there and act a fool with something.
John:Once the police are on scene, it's over right, do your job and just get on, move, go out of the way. Hey, my dad, my dad told me a long time ago like I mean, he never. He never used the phrase fuck around and find out, but he always, always said you know, if you're going to do something like that, if you're going to do something stupid and the police are going to come, your best bet is to comply, because if you do not comply, they will put hands on you. And it's not fun. I've had police put hands on me before. It's not, it's not pleasant.
John:And so I learned my lesson and ever since then, anytime I was ever in any confrontation with the police, whether it's just a speeding ticket or being someplace I shouldn't have been as a young man, I always complied. I never, I never fought with them, I never, because one time was enough, I got you on that. You know you have to learn a lesson and some of these people think that they can. Just, you know, and not all cops are bad, not all cops are good, but you never know when you're going to come across a cop that's had a really bad day, right, and if he's had a really bad day, you have to remember all cops carry guns and some of these cops don't mind shooting people. And if you run into a bad cop that's had a bad day and you get in his face and you spit or you slap him or you punch him or you push him, he might shoot you and uh, it's unfortunate but that's the world we live in right now and, like I said, I've had cops put hands on me before.
John:It's not pleasant, I didn't, I didn't appreciate it, I did not like it and uh, I, I wouldn't, I, I would highly not recommend it my only experience, uh, hillsborough street there in raleigh, north carolina.
Tré:Uh, yeah, the pepper spray came out. It was not me, I had nothing to do with the bull jive, but some people were a little bit rowdy because they didn't want to go home after the bar had closed and I just happened to be in proximity and, just like a stray bullet, stray pepper spray has no names on it, I wouldn't imagine. I've been pissed about that ever since, Ever since man.
John:Hold on. Who were you mad at, though? Were you mad at the cop that pepper sprayed?
Tré:No, I'm mad the full, precipitated it, right? I'm like it's time to go home, and so do you know what ever since it wasn't since that day. Even before then, I would say look nothing after midnight. You need to be heading home by two o'clock in the morning. You need to already have been in your home yeah, nothing.
John:Nothing good have happens after the sun goes down. I can tell you that I can testify to all of those things.
Tré:There's no good behavior going on, nope, whether it's Whether it's at a place, at a club Shooting, whether it's on the highway Because someone is speeding, or drunk If you're home drunk, or just yep, if you, if you home, certain things can't happen Well and it's weird, you know, when I was younger, I mean, I spent a lot of time that was, you know, I don't know shit when I was younger.
John:Sometimes I wouldn't even go out of the house till it was dark, you know, and then that was just the time to be out. You were out till the sun came back. I was like a freaking vampire. You, son, come up, I go back in the house?
Tré:I would. I would die if I knew that my daughter was keeping the same hours I was at the club. That would be like, oh my gosh, man john, you know what. You know, it's kind of crazy. Like a fencing protest. You got a black card on that. Starbucks colonizing boba marjorie taylor green who was actually one of my favorite congress people, by the way had a town hall that was so chaotic it needed its own paramedic team. People got tased, bro, like what. So, but if you thought that was the headline of the week, my man D45 had a full-on moment at the White House this week. Do you know what he did? 45 or 47? D45, man, he'll always be 45 to me.
John:Okay, so okay, he never left. That's the new one. I was just making sure I didn't know where we were going with that. All right, he never left. Right, all right, he never left, right.
Tré:All right, you know what he never left? Because they let him live there, rent free, right.
John:Ah, see Okay.
Tré:All right, I like where you're going, okay. So what did he do? Well, you know what? This week my man complimented Gretchen Whitmer, who happens to be the star of another one of our podcasts Holla, he wasn't roasting her, he wasn't mocking her, he wasn't like giving her like one of his cute little nicknames. You know.
John:He said I think she was at the White House. I think she was like on his side about something.
Tré:Wasn't she? Well, you know she went up there to talk about and it was regarding how tariffs are impacting, you know, auto in in michigan, of course. So you know she was doing the thing that she should be doing as the governor of a us state, um, and I think he called her like an impressive woman, he said she's very impressive, all these things. And then, you know, after he said that, she handled it well. She's tough when, like, yes, it's coming from a man's mouth himself. I love it. But you know what, john? You know what, john? You know what's got me mad about this.
Tré:I'm sitting here like I sound like I got a smile on my face around now, don't I? I'm really, really happy that they got along, but the left is mad at her because she kept it classy, right, god forbid. Oh my God, it was crazy, she was. It was crazy, she was. It was ridiculous. They're like she put her. She covered her face, uh, while she was there on, for when there was like this certain, this camera angle, or have you? And she just made that choice and so they wanted to. They, being the left, decided to go after her for that. This is the end of your political career. I'm like what are you talking about?
John:what do you think? I don't think it. I mean, look look what tulsi gabbard and robert f kennedy got for just pulling their heads out of their ass and deciding to work with the man. You know what I mean. I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't think it's the end of her political career. It might change her team, but it won't end her career.
Tré:You know, this bullying thing on the left is really problematic and you know we've talked about that before we even began the show and then since, but it's just bonkers in this case. You know, she's obviously the governor of the US state. Some things have gone on recently with regard to, you know, this tariff issue and we've talked extensively about that that. But what we have to deal with, you and I as private citizens with our own individual economies, is that we have to now negotiate the best deals we can for ourselves. Correct, we're not making, you know, like you said, we're not making decisions at the national level. Gretchen isn't making decisions at the national level either, but she has constituents there in Michigan and so she needs to go to the White House and negotiate the best deals that she can for her constituents. Why is that wrong?
John:It's not. It's the way. It's the way the program is supposed to run. The Republicans and the Democrats are supposed to work together the Republicans and the Democrats are supposed to work together.
Tré:If I've got a problem with the way the president handled it, you're like my podcast partner says well, trey, you and I don't make these decisions, and he's in the seat right now. He gets to make that call. We can, I'm talking about me personally. Trey can be mad about it, but it's his call. Her responsibility is different. She has to. She needs to go and have a conversation with the president and say, okay, look, she's an elected official, she's an official job, that is her literal job.
Tré:If we're getting upset with people for doing their literal jobs which, by the way, serves the interest of the people that you this is I'm talking about just liberal mouthpieces and pundits say that you're speaking. For why is she wrong? Would it be better for her to just sit on her hands and let it all happen, or would it be better for her to go to the White House and say, hey, we need this, this and this exempted from the latest round of tariffs? I understand that you have a. I understand, mr President, that you have a plan, a larger plan, but let's move these items out of the equation. What do you think? And I'm not sure what the actual outcome was, but she at least needed to make that call, and then credit to him for taking the meeting.
John:Well, and I said to you several weeks ago, when this whole tariff thing started this is all, in my opinion, it's all about negotiating. That's what he wants to do. He just wants to renegotiate all this stuff. And so he came out, and so he said some mean things and he did some mean things and he hurt some people's feelings by saying, hey, I'm going to give everybody, whatever, a 200 percent tariff on jelly beans or whatever he did. And everybody's like, well, you can't do that. But he can and he did. And now all these countries are like, hey, let's renegotiate this stuff. And he's like, yeah, you're right, you should totally come to the United States, you can come to the White House, you can sleep in the Lincoln bedroom and we'll renegotiate this whole thing. I think that's what we should do, and he's saying that more often than he's saying I don't want to renegotiate all this stuff. What he wants to do is he wants to renegotiate a better deal for the United States, and I believe that's going to be the outcome. At least I'm hoping that's what is going to happen. That's what I believe the direction he is going, that's what I'm hoping for for America. It doesn't mean that it's going to get better tomorrow. You know what I mean. I think we're in for a long haul.
John:I think China is trying to. You know, like I said, whip their fencing sword out and play with the big boys, and I don't think they can. So we'll see. We'll see where that goes. I don't know if China getting out of business with us is a bad thing. That's like what it goes back to.
John:Like the whole thing with russia with you, right? Like you're like, why is everybody being friendly with russia? Well, why do we care about china? Like why do we care? Like, if they don't want to play, then they're going to be like oh well, we're going to put 200 tariffs on. And we're going to be like well, we'll put 200 tariffs on. The reality is, is somebody's going to cave at some point, and it's going to be who caves first. And and I don't think donald trump is going to cave in the negotiations with china I truly believe that china will end up losing that war. I'm not saying it won't cost everybody money. It'll probably cost us a little bit of money, but at the end of the day, when it's all renegotiated and things are set right, which will hopefully be before the end of this year, I think things will be different and we'll be having a different conversation.
Tré:I did misspeak a moment ago, John. I said that she had called him up. The White House actually invited her.
John:Oh, that's even better.
Tré:Right, and she went, and she went, donald.
John:Trump said hey, I want to talk to you, you should come here. And she said hell, yeah, I should go talk to him. That's even better.
Tré:Like, can you imagine? Like what the left would have said. Or just let's say, I guess democrats would have said if she had skipped the invitation, they'd be like, oh, she's not doing enough no, they would, they would have.
John:They would have totally been like thank god she didn't. They would have totally paraded her around like good for her for standing her ground and not working with that hey, but you know who would have been wait john.
Tré:You know who would have been wait, john. You know who would have been saying that Democrats who don't live in Michigan, who don't have any skin in the game.
John:True, true Right Us Californians for sure.
Tré:Right, you know, or like if she'd been up there and she'd been like smiling and grinning all over the place, they'd be like, oh, she's just pandering, grinning all over the place. They'd be like, oh, she's just pandering, yeah.
John:And then I say good for her man. You know, that's your, that's your girl, though, right that is the one that you were, that's your girl absolutely my girl.
Tré:It's a midwestern power. Move man. What do midwesterners do? They show up, they roll up their sleeves, they do the work, they don't cause a scene that's what they do.
John:You were saying something a couple weeks ago when we were talking about her. It was like they have to win Michigan right, like Michigan's one of those states that you know what I mean they need. So you know, if she's the one that's, maybe she'll be the next vice president or president who knows, unbelievable she's out here, Maybe she's the one that, uh, that changes the whole dynamic.
John:You never know, it's possible. I don't know enough about her, but I don't. I don't uh, condemn her for going to meet with the president. Bill maher went and met with the president, that's right you did send me that, I did.
Tré:You know, I've forgotten about that part.
John:Yes, I did watch it, I did watch it, you and I. I've forgotten about that part. Yes, I did watch it, I did watch it. You and I have to talk about that. Yes, by all means so, and good for him for sticking with his side and calling, doing what you're doing, calling it out, calling out the bullshit that needs to be called out on your side. I mean, we do it with the right all the time, like I. There's things I'm pissed off at the right right now about that we're not talking about. We'll save that for another episode.
John:But it's crazy to me that he got the same shit that what's her name, whitmer? Yeah. That you were just talking shit. That what's her name, whitmer? Yeah. That you were just talking about. Like people are like you know. I think he even said like are you going to talk to him about this stuff? He's like what do you think I'm not going there for like a peace summit? He said I'm a fucking comedian, you know. But you know it was nice to hear him say you know the things that he said. Like he got to say some things to Donald Trump and Donald Trump listened to him. You know what I mean. And I think he even said somewhere in there that Donald Trump asked him his opinion about something and he's like why does my opinion even matter? You know he's a comedian, but's there, it's real people, right? Yeah, bill maher might be a richer, normal person richer real people yeah yeah, but he's he's still real people, right, he's not.
John:He's not like a. He's not like elon musk rich, right, he, he's a comedian that has a tv show and he's done well for himself. You should be listening to people like that, because there are a ton of Democrats out there that listen and watch him, right, and they're pissed off at him because he goes and he even said it. He said it perfect, like I went there, I went down to the basement or whatever, and I can tell you, right now a crazy man doesn't live in the White House and to him that was reassuring.
Tré:I did hear that it was nice. Nice, it was nice, he was very nice.
John:I think he was typical Bill Maher. I don't think he was nice and I think he even said I'm going to continue to hammer this man on this shit because it's my job and he should. Nobody's saying that he shouldn't. Nobody's saying that these people shouldn't be hammering Donald Trump for doing the things that he's doing when he's doing something wrong. If that's what you feel, If you feel it's wrong, no different than you. No-transcript what politicking is. You know what I mean. That's what the right and the left are supposed to be doing for our states absolutely I agree completely that's what we.
John:That's what we elect them to do to fight for us, because they're our voice. They work for us us.
Tré:One of the things that Mar said was that he couldn't understand or explain why the person that we get at the press conference is not the person that he saw in the White House. Right? That would be my conversation with Donald if we ever met. It would be the same. Come on, man, why are you trolling? Because you know that everybody, we loved this guy. What is it? 20 years ago, 19 years ago, on the Apprentice, we loved the entire nation loved this guy, loved him, right.
John:So we know that he existed, and it's not that he's trolling, but look at the people that he's talking to Right. Look at the media that are asking him questions. Look at the way the media has treated him. Wouldn't you be hostile towards those people?
Tré:There's no question that the media definite. There's no question that. Uh, the last I'm talking about since he left office. So while he was in office I didn't like it, but then, after he left office, you know my position on that that wasn't yeah.
John:Total four years a fucking bullshit yeah, and I think he has every right to be mad at these people. So it's not like when, when, uh, your girl whitmer went there, that he was rude or mean to her. Right, he had a civil conversation, it sounds like, with her. He even said nice things from the podium about her, according to you. So I think the only people that he's hostile to are the people that are hostile towards him, and that doesn't make him a bad person, that just makes him human. Like I would be upset if somebody was saying shit about me and my family, especially if it was all lies me through the courts of the United States trying to destroy and defame a business that I built and my family and all of the things. I would be pretty hostile towards you about that. So I think that's, at least in my opinion, the question that Bill Maher is posing.
Tré:I think that's why they get that version of donald trump, in my opinion it would be, uh, it would be interesting to see, uh, a sudden pivot to the the less bombastic. But that's, I'm just chill like that.
John:You know me, except when I'm talking about you know, if you listen to him, sometimes, like when he's on like air force one and, uh, you know they're traveling and he's talking to the media. I think the people that are like that talk to him and treat him with a little bit of respect and dignity, because, even more said, that's all he wants. He just wants to have. Just treat them with a little bit of respect and he will do the same to you. I think those people that ask the questions, whether he likes the question or whether he doesn't like the question, it's how you ask it. If you ask him the question like, hey, dude, I just want to know, like, what's the play on this, like the tariff thing, and you ask him it in respect, I think he'll give you what he believes is a solid answer, because I've seen him do it. Solid answer because I've seen him do it.
John:It's just it's unfortunate because 90% of the media that's in that room are against him. They say mean shit about him. They say shit, that's not true. They you know what I mean Even politicians, the other politicians, they, they're. They say shit, that's not true. And they say shit that's not true and they say it in such a way that it's fact, like they state statements that he's said as fact and if you go listen to what he said that the whole world has access to they can prove that it's not true. But yet obama will still stand at a pulpit and say that he was talking about white supremacists being good people. He never said that. It was never said. So if you have a whole media that's pushing that narrative to you, why would you be nice to those people? I would tell them to fuck off.
Tré:Man, there is some dramatic, some drama under the surface apparently between Leon and the president but we've got to do some more digging on that between Leon and the president, but we've got to do some more digging on that. But apparently Musk is upset with the president's advisor, which is that Pete Navarro guy and he called him a moron. So there is that that's kind of going on right now, but we haven't seen a ton of that.
John:That's kind of old news.
Tré:It's old news at this point, yeah.
John:Yeah, they addressed it at a press conference. What's the press conference? Chick's name, what's her?
Tré:name? Oh, that girl. She's a dime piece. Is it Carolyn or Christine Levitt?
John:Yeah, whatever. So she addressed it, they brought it up to her and she basically said hey, boys will be boys. Elon was just at the UFC fight with Donald Trump. Elon was just at the UFC fight with Donald Trump, so I don't know if there's any beef between Donald Trump and Elon. There might be a beef between this guy that you're talking about and Elon, but I would imagine that's between them.
Tré:I mean, if you called him a moron on Twitter, that's kind of like a little more than shots fired. It's like me saying, hey, Pete Navarro, you're a moron. It's shots fired. Leon saying it Whoa, yeah.
John:But have you seen?
Tré:Carolyn Leavitt, the press secretary.
John:Have you seen her face? Uh-uh, what happened? She's pretty. Oh, yes, I've seen her face.
Tré:You know what's funny? I like her. I actually. I mean, she's easy to look at, but she's actually sharp when she represents the president's positions quite well.
Tré:She rarely looks confused okay, of the clips I've seen, rarely looks confused. Um, and she looks. There's a certain believability about what she's saying. You believe that she believes what she's saying, unlike the woman who used to have that position who would like lean on the podium and kind of like nod her head a little. It was always a little bit. There was this sort of condescension in the way that she would address questions, even from friendly media. Are you talking about Joe Biden's press secretary? Yeah, I don't know her name, but the little black girl or the, she wasn't black, she was Caribbean.
John:Yeah, she said that she was the first lesbian woman of color to hold that position ever, and that was her claim to fame.
Tré:There were things that I saw her answer where she looked at even though she's young, looked as confused as the president looked, and be like.
John:Well, and she was reading from a very confusing script you know, when, when the new girl comes out there and she brings, she'll bring the work, like you're gonna ask me this question. These are the facts. If you would like, I'll print them out and I'll hand them to you and you can read it I'll tell you what she's very good at her job.
Tré:I remember last time he was president there were like several of these people who they weren't very good.
John:um, well, the last one he had was good. She has her own show now on Fox. Oh okay, I can't remember her name either.
Tré:She was a blonde chick also I can't remember her name, let's do a quick lookup. Oh, kaylee McEnany, mcenany McEnany, I don't remember her at all.
John:She was good too. She was just as good as the chick that's on there right now. Gotcha, I think we call them chicks.
Tré:We're gonna get hate for that we are gonna get hate and we will absolutely deserve it the young women but a dime piece is a dime piece. I mean they can get on me about that. Hey, creepy, perverted old man yes, I I am a very old man. I'm a little bit condescending sometimes. But I mean a dime is a dime, I'm just saying.
John:My wife tells me I'm condescending all the time and I'm like no.
Tré:I'm not as I'm saying I'm not.
John:I'm like, oh, maybe a little bit right now, when I was thinking, no, I'm not.
Tré:John, when I was thinking no, I'm not Just a little bit, john. They'll say I'm condescending, but you'll never say that I don't love women, right? And that's why we go so hard in the paint on this broadcast for women in women's sports.
Tré:Just saying, man, this dude sent me a thing the other day I think we'll get into this right now Like some 45-minute boring-ass YouTube about some guy saying that, oh, it's not really that much difference between male and female athletes, of like mid-level athletes in terms of like the non-elite. I'm like I don't care. Right, I don't care. His name is Anthony, I like Anthony, but he had sent it was some, it was some other comedian or it's not Bill Maher, but someone kind of like him. He's got a British accent. Oh huh, listen to this bullshit. First of all, just because you got a British accent doesn't mean you know shit. But, for whatever reason, americans have this idea that, oh, if someone has a British accent, it's therefore an authoritative sounding voice and therefore everything they say must be trusted. I'm like, first of all, he's talking bullshit.
John:He's talking bullshit. Listen, there's only a couple accents that I believe in, and they are all American accents. They're all in this country.
Tré:You know what? Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin.
John:They had legitimate accents that were believable, but anyone else's fuck them. They had legitimate accents that were believable.
Tré:But anyone else's fuck them.
John:They don't carry any special weight. I don't think they're smarter just because they have an accent.
Tré:I think they sound cool, but man yeah, listen to this clown jive for so long. I'm like this is such crap because my position has always been and you don't need me to get into this right now, but I'm just going to put a button on it one real quick time here. I don't care if he is the smallest, shortest, weakest, slowest, least talented person on that team. He is still a he. Now, if he wants his pronouns, to be….
John:So hold on. We got Elon as Leon. Yes. We got Donald Trump as D45. Yes, and we got protons now.
Tré:Perfect. We got our own vocabulary on this show. We got our own vocabulary on this show.
John:We got our own vocabulary.
Tré:The pro towns go on with the pro towns but if he wants his pronouns to be almost said it just now to be she, her, whatever that's going to be off of the competitive athletic field, it's going to be everywhere else. I'm happy to call you she. You want to wear whatever clothing, you want to wear makeup. You want to have a woman, a female sounding name, I'm happy to indulge those things. I will not support you taking a spot that belongs to a biological female. I cannot support that.
John:I agree. Like, what was the Bud Light trans name? What was his name, Her name? Oh Wait, the one that got Bud Light in all the trouble, you know they picked a trans person to be their spokesperson. Hey, I'm all for him doing whatever they do, whatever it is the social media stuff and going on talk shows and making a dollar.
John:That's an honest dollar for just being you. I'm all for that, and if I met you, I would probably walk right past you and not even give you a second look, because you're not a very good looking woman. So there is that part too.
John:I'm like, but it doesn't mean that you don't have the right to to do that. Just. It just means that you're not my type and I'm just going to walk right past you and I'm not going. I'm not going to give you a second look, but go into life and just live. Be who you want to be, but quit taking spots on the women's sports teams. I agree with that indeed it was.
Tré:I had to look it up just now. Dylan mo, dylan mulvaney, yeah, yeah, yeah, talk person I. You know what's interesting is? I don't. I think I may have seen the name before, but I didn't really know what was going on back then, um, in april of 2023. Ironically, I wasn't really that involved in American politics Shocker. I was sort of paying attention to other shit and now you guys have pulled me back in.
John:What happened in 2023? You weren't involved.
Tré:I mean, that was just two years ago, I know I was just like well, also, the trans thing has never been interesting to me. I said a long time ago, years ago, I said the pronoun thing is exhausting. I use that exact language and I said that these people I did use that terminology, I still use it Want all the oxygen in every room, Not all the oxygen in one room, all the oxygen in every room. Think about it. We talked about trans on this podcast several times and even a lot.
John:Oh yeah, I think it's almost part of every single. We have to stop it. We're starting to sound like we're anti-trans oh, imagine that.
Tré:Cancel us, please, so we can get more views, like we did on Snow White, who is our. She keeps on giving. We stopped dunking on Snow White and she's still bringing us listeners and we're getting email.
John:I love it. You know what's crazy is. You know what our second highest viewing is?
Tré:probably about Leon. Which is it oh?
John:it is the clip that our social media person made with that goes by the bottle of blantons and the donuts right before we tried recording our first episode. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, I love that. I think last time I looked that was at like 13 000 views, holy shit that's crazy, right, and it's just like this little short, like this little thing, like I just hey, come, look at us, people doesn't even say anything. People love donuts, I think it does, and whiskey it's a bottle of bourbon.
Tré:People are like, yeah, like cool, john, I'm not even drinking tonight.
John:This is crazy I don't mean is crazy.
Tré:I feel like we're letting our sponsors down.
John:I can go grab a bottle of whiskey he's like Trey. I'm literally at the bar, I'm not scared, I'll just go grab a quick drink. We'll give a shout out to a whiskey. Which one should we open? Alright, and.
Tré:I will give us see if I can find a way to wrap this thing up, John. Great, great, great conversation tonight. We've covered a lot. We have we have? We've covered a lot of topics. All right, what?
John:should I open.
Tré:Oh, what are my options?
John:Well, on the shelf, we got George Dickel, we have Eagle Rare, we have Blanton's Stagg Jr in honor of the Masters, which just wrapped up on Sunday.
Tré:Congrats to Rory McIlroy for completing the career. Grand Slam. Let's go with that.
John:Eagle Rare alright we'll do some Eagle Rare. Ooh, alright, we'll do some Eagle Rare. Right now, let me grab this bottle and open it up. Hold on, we'll see if we can get the cork popping out of here. Tell me if you can hear this. Oh that was nice, and then we'll get the glass closed. A nice little bloug glug glug in there. I don't know if you got that it didn't glug very well.
Tré:We can now spike that out. Here's to Rory Good job, my friend, oh do you know. And here's to the masters, John. There is one last thing we have to touch on before we go.
John:Okay, I'm going to drink some whiskey. You touch on it. I'm going to cheers this.
Tré:I didn't know that Augusta National, which is where the Masters is held. Are you a golfer? I should even ask you that I should know this.
John:Not really. I used to like to watch Tiger Woods, just because he was just a phenomenon and then it's kind of like the same way I used to like I didn't watch basketball, but I always watched Michael Jordan.
Tré:Did you know that tiger is in a relationship right now with Don Jr's ex-wife? I did know that and I was like what, okay, go tiger. I did so it is an interesting little little aside there. But yeah, there are. They have a no cell phone policy at the event. Yeah, and I thought about it and I thought to myself kind of like it yeah.
Tré:I talked to my sister and she's like no, I'm not going around people without my phone. Okay, you're not going to the Masters, and she's like, you know, she's like I wasn't planning to go anyway. I'm like in my mind I didn't say anything else, but I'm thinking to myself good, because you can't not with your phone. So I think that it's a a pretty good policy. I'd like to be able to go to spaces where there are no phones yeah, me and my wife have been working really hard.
John:When we go out to dinner to like legitimately put our phones down. Yeah, just wait, I mean they. You know they take up so much of our lives.
Tré:It's unfortunate hour and a half. Let's just sit down, enjoy a meal.
John:Just us, I mean hey, have you ever been up to the uh, the celebrity tournament tournament up there in uh reno?
Tré:so I went to one up at tahoe before, but it wasn't celebrity tournament, I haven't been, so I have not been to the one you asked about.
John:no, yeah, I guess that's pretty cool. A lot of my friends go up there. I've never been. I'm not a big golfer. I had a horrible accident a long time ago, broke my neck and can't golf. It really plays havoc on a swing when you can't turn your body. Anyway, yeah, they go up there. They always have a good time. They go. They meet all kinds of people up there. They go up there. They stay for like three or four days. They run around the golf course, hang out with all these celebrities. There's pictures of them all hanging out in the bar with like tom cruise or whoever like, just all these like big name celebrity golfers. And yeah, we should try to go up there sometime.
Tré:Okay, I'm in. I'm in.
John:So I'm not big in. But you know we are trying to promote a podcast. Getting knowing some people would be a thing, absolutely.
Tré:So Offensive, got qualified for refusing to face a trans opponent and within 48 hours she got a $5,000 check. In a fan club, starbucks dropped boba without the boba, and I don't even, we don't even know what kind of straw they're going to use, right, they're sugar balls, right, and it's just, did they?
Tré:think they were going to fix like cultural appropriation and climate change, just with one sip, marjorie Taylor Greene, hosting a town hall that ended in total chaos and a taser chorus. We got no answers on that. I cannot wait to see what the news and stories are running with tomorrow with that one and you know, bill Maher, you know a guy that you know you first sort of gave big ups to on the show visited D45. And he came out and he said the president was gracious and measured and he wasn't being snarky when he said it.
John:No, you know I appreciated what he said. It no, you know I appreciated what he said. Again, I'm not a big Bill Maher fan, you know. I just I, I I'm like you. I just call balls and strikes. And if, if the Democrats start listening to and taking note of what guys like Bill Maher are saying, I think that the democratic party gets fixed a lot faster.
Tré:And then my girl Gretchen, going to the White House to actually do her job, which is to fight for Michigan workers, and she gets dragged by Democrats for doing so because she put a folder over her face. Unbelievable Y'all. I don't, don't go ahead.
John:No, go ahead. I was gonna say I have. I have an idea for the artwork for this episode.
John:Okay there has to be a guy standing there, just like standing there getting tased, like just wires stuck in his shirt and then boba balls, like right below him and a sword. Tell me that's not genius, oh my god Right. Genius, oh my god right. Better yet, it should be bill maher getting tased, so that way we put a little bit of something of everything that we talked about in the episode bill maher getting tased, boba balls in a sword lane right below him, like in between his legs. That's it, that's the art. I'm talking to our social media person right now y'all.
Tré:We thank you once again for visiting us here at whiskey and donuts, just in time for us to get canceled yet again for the sixth straight week, right.
Tré:Right but real leadership is quiet and that's what we saw out of my girl. Other leadership, you know, still leadership can be loud, but don't fall for the theater. People Follow the people doing the work, and John and I are going to be right here breaking it down. Every time John, see you next time? All right, man Later. Bud. Every time John see you next time, all right, man later. Bud.