Pharmaphobic
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Pharmaphobic
Ep. 63 - Healthier Without Trying
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We just got back from Germany and Czech Republic, and the food messed with our heads a little. Schnitzel fried in butter that didn't feel like a grease bomb. Sausages that were somehow lighter than a Wendy's. Gelato with four ingredients. We weren't doing anything special — we were just eating their normal.
The other stuff stacked up too. Older people hiking without complaint. Kids walking to the bakery alone at six. Farmland ten minutes outside of Prague. People sitting in the grass by the river on a Friday because that's just what you do.
None of this is new. Most of it is what we used to do. What we can't stop thinking about is when we decided that stopping was progress.
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Contact Daniel and Janie:
Email: info@achievethelifestyle.com
Website: achievethelifestyle.com
Instagram: @achievethelifestyle
Pharmaphobic is powered by Achieve the Lifestyle, a company dedicated to helping you empower your health, redefine your lifestyle, and all for the health of it. You're listening to Pharmaphobic, where we challenge the state of health in America. I'm Janie, a physician assistant, and I've seen how healthcare keeps people dependent instead of truly healthy.
SPEAKER_01And I'm Dan, a veteran Turn Fitness Pro here to uncover the truth and explore simple and sustainable health solutions. From big pharma to big food, we're exposing the conflicts of interest, keeping us sick, and finding better ways to take back our health.
SPEAKER_03No fluff, no gimmicks, just real talk, real solutions, and a little bit of fun along the way.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to another episode of Pharmaphobic, brought to you by Achieve the Lifestyle, where we help you become the strongest, healthiest, and most capable version of yourself. I am laughing because right before we started recording, somebody cracked a little jokey joke. Just a little jokey joke. That somebody would be my special guest and co-host of the podcast. The one and only. My travel.
SPEAKER_03You can't be a special guest and a co-host.
SPEAKER_01Yes, you can. My travel companion throughout life and throughout this world. And hopefully the next world too. The one and only, Janie Brown. How are you doing?
unknownHello.
SPEAKER_03I'm good. How are you? Guten Morgen. Or Guten Morgan.
SPEAKER_01I'll just say Gutentag. Guten Morgen. Gutentag. So this is what we're going to talk about today because we just came back from a trip. And we're going to talk some some health stuff while traveling and what we saw on the other side of the world. Um we recently were in Germany and the Czech Republic. And it was a very good trip. Highly recommend. Um Czech Republic is awesome. Everybody's heard of Prague, but there's more outside of Prague. And Prague is pretty cool, but there's also other stuff to see. Now I uh point of fact because you said Hallo.
SPEAKER_06Hallo?
SPEAKER_01German is hilarious to me because most people know German as a seemingly the impression of hearing people talk in German is that it's a very aggressive language. I get you know a lot of harsh sounds to it. But when the Germans say hello, it's the kindest hello ever.
SPEAKER_03It's H A L L O.
unknownHello.
SPEAKER_01And then they go watch the truck, and then they jump into the jerk into the conversation. I was like, whoa. Super kind, and then we go super harsh sounding language. Pretty funny.
SPEAKER_03The and then the Czech language, I which I don't know if it's what their language, if it's just Czech or what it's called. I was like, I was like, how do you say thank you? And they said it, and I'm like, Yeah, we have I'll just do the international thank you, which is a bow.
SPEAKER_01The silent thank you, just bow. So I'm gonna say thank you in Japanese.
SPEAKER_03Which, by the way, on our last night there, we stayed at a hotel near the airport in Munich, and the hotel restaurant had a robot, and maybe I'll post a clip on Instagram of this, but had a robot that would bring the food out from the kitchen, so then the servers could take it to the table. And it was a Japanese robot, and the voice was a Japanese voice speaking in German.
SPEAKER_01It it I clearly a robot C3PO looking thing with C3PO, no, R2D2 looking thing. So for you Star Wars guys, it's the short one that goes that one. Um, for the people that aren't Star Wars people, I mean. But it had shelves on it, and the foods, the plates were on there, and then it would just come to the middle of the thing, and the servers would like dish out the plates from that thing. I mean, it I guess servers don't have to carry plates anymore if you have this little robot, but it's talking and moving around the whole time. It's kind of guys, like I just think about Terminator. I'm like, this cute little robot eventually is gonna be hunting us down.
SPEAKER_03It brings out your schnitzels and shoots you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that eventually it's just gonna be hunting. But the thing is clearly a Japanese, you know, little toy.
SPEAKER_02Looks like a panda.
SPEAKER_01It does because it was black and white, it looked kind of like a panda, and then it had like like ears on it or something, and and then it's speaking in German, but it sounds like a Japanese girl. It was hilarious.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Kind of creepy, but funny at the same time, and that's how it starts, guys. It just makes it look cute. Then next thing you know, you have assassin AI robots hunting you down. Skynet is active. Anyway, let's get into this.
SPEAKER_06You want your schnigel? Nine!
SPEAKER_01Let's get into this trip. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so another just general observation. Um, I'm a vague white woman. I can blend in anywhere in Europe.
SPEAKER_01Uh German Janie got spoken to.
SPEAKER_03I got confused for a local multiple times in two countries. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And they spoke to her in German, and then she's like, uh, and then they said it again in German.
SPEAKER_02Louder.
SPEAKER_01Louder. And then the same thing happened in Czech.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's funny. They I think they confused me too.
SPEAKER_03What do you mean?
SPEAKER_01Like, I think they thought I was like Czech too. You know what I was saying? Oh, God. Anyway, let's get into this trip. So we got a lot of stuff to talk about, things we saw just observationally, of course. And every time we travel, um it's funny because there's so much that is so different from here. It's like, of course, Dan, you're in another country. But we're looking at the details that kind of influence the health of the people. That's usually what I just can't help but start looking at that every time. Every time we travel somewhere new, it's like the first thing that I'm looking at. I'm picking up stuff at the grocery store and I'm translating ingredients and things like that. That's how I start learning the language.
SPEAKER_03And also, as people who take care of ourselves, like we make it a priority to take care of ourselves, right? And I think a lot of our listeners do too. And so I say this as when I deal with patients who are regularly active and they take care of yourself, you're gonna notice more subtle differences than somebody who is sedentary and doesn't take care of themselves.
SPEAKER_01And when you're committed to it too, because just because we took a trip doesn't mean that the the self-care, like the wellness attitude stops, right?
SPEAKER_03But what I'm trying to say is like, for I'll give the example for shortness of breath. If somebody is sedentary, like doesn't do anything, and I ask them, do you get shorter breath on exertion? And they're like, always, right? So how do I know if that's worse or not? Because they can't really, they haven't tested themselves. Whereas we're active regularly, and it's like, do you get shortness of breath on exertion? Oh yeah, much quicker than I usually do. Okay, so then you're just more sensitive to changes. Then that can go changes for worse or changes for better. And so when we travel and we feel the impacts of the stress of travel, I feel like we feel them a little bit more uh apparent, they're more apparent to us. But when we feel the benefits of travel, like if the food's better and stuff like that, we we feel it as well. And I think we're more if you take care of yourself regularly, regularly, you're gonna be more sensitive to either to even little changes that can occur.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And and the food quality thing is very noticeable too when you're traveling and you're used to a certain thing, and then you have something completely different that is better for all intents and purposes, and you're like, whoa, this is like so.
SPEAKER_03That's why we when we travel, it's we're not traveling just to see how it impacts our body for better or for worse. We're traveling to enjoy it, like we have lives, right? We have we we want to experience things, but we're also keeping an eye on how do I feel? Like, how does this food taste? How does this food affect me, and things like that, because there is a difference.
SPEAKER_01And so I think but bottom line up front, um what is we doing, boo-boo, is the question that keeps coming to mind. In America. In America, what is we doing with our food? And that's you, that's I I just as we go along in the episode, you'll there's smart differences. And where I land is I, you know, they tell us here that if we didn't do things this way, people people would run out of food and all this other nonsense. And I get it, we have a bigger population, so it might be better to figure out the scale of how to do things a better way versus let me just do things a crappy way so that I can, you know, have food in every corner and people throwing away full plates of food and of this ridiculous abundance of food, right? Because nobody's going hungry over there. And they have a way better food system than we do. You know? So let's get into it. So we went to Germany, we went to check. Let me put these filters on, guys.
SPEAKER_03But can we talk about the flight to Germany?
SPEAKER_01Yes, in a second. We should talk about the flight to Germany. I just have to point out that the difference with these on and these off is getting very marked.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Your boy's getting old.
SPEAKER_03Dan, by the time this podcast airs, Dan will have turned 43.
SPEAKER_01Old timer. Oh gosh, you're fine. Things are happening, guys. Usually, namely my eyesight is where I feel every bit of my age. Anyway, yes, let's talk about the flight over to Germany.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So there was a medical emergency on the flight over to Germany, and I had, so our flight was overnight, and I have like this neck turtle thing, so I can just knock off with my head to the side a little bit. It's great. And I actually left it on the plane, so I gotta buy a new one. Anyway, um I, you know, I get to a point like they gave us some food. I get up, I brush my teeth, I'm getting ready to like setylin. I take half a dose of NyQuil to help me. Plus, I had a little bit of nasal congestion prior to going, so help the sinuses stay open while I sleep, and I'm out. And all of a sudden I just hear I hear somebody say, medical, medical. And I don't even remember getting up and jumping over. But all I know is I run to the guy, he's on the ground. So a guy had come out of the bathroom and just passed out. And I'm on the ground, I like I tap him, he comes um right awake, and I was like, Are you okay? Do you know where you are? He speaks a little bit of English, but that's not his primary language. And he just stands right back up and then passes out again. So I run and lift his legs, and I'm trying to tell him to stay down, stay down. And he like comes back, like comes back to, sees me holding his legs, pulls his knees into his chest so I can't hold his legs anymore, pushes his feet down and then stands up again, passes out again. And finally, then flight attendants come and they're helping him to stay down. They're speaking to him in German English, trying to figure out what he speaks. And then a German doctor finally comes up and I was like, I think it's orthostatic. He needs to stay down. And then I tried to go back to sleep. The whole time I'm doing this, I have my little neck pillow on.
SPEAKER_01That was a I I thought a completely different thing had happened. So I was asleep.
SPEAKER_03Like Dan goes to like danger.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's where my mind went to. So I I felt I was asleep and I felt you get up, and I what I heard was somebody hit the ground, like a thud. And then I just you got up and I just jumped in behind you and like started going, like, oh, something, something bad's happening, you know. So I need to be up out of my seat. And it's crazy because I don't even remember how I got up either. I just don't know why my eyes open, I was like, I'm up, like jumping, let's go, whatever it is. Um funny how that kicks in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, because you you responded pretty quickly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But the German doctor, I don't know if he was, I don't think that they would fly with the doctor, but he had a whole like stethoscope, blood pressure cuff, like bag, or maybe it was air. It'd make more sense if it was on the plane already. But he actually gave them something, like a little bit of tonic, because he started passing out again right before we landed. Um, and so I'm just like, yeah. I thought like, I thought MI heart attack. So my whole thing was like get start doing CPR immediately. But he was just, I don't know if he has an underlining underlying arrhythmia, a heart issue.
SPEAKER_01Dude was young too. He wasn't that old.
SPEAKER_03He was probably my age, which um might maybe, but he um he was I saw him have a at least a couple glasses of wine because he was sitting right in front of us. And he uh Yeah, the Munich has a medical staff on duty, like just on call, like within the airport. And so they came, they boarded the plane after we landed, and then EMS came, like the transportation people came as well. And they were like checking his blood sugar, and I saw it looked fine. And so I think it's more volume status. Either he was dehydrated, and then I don't know if he like dropped a deuce in the bathroom, and then that can cause you to kind of vasalvagle when you like bear down like that and then go to stand up. Or if he has, like I said, an underlying arrhythmia or something else, but they they told him they had to take him to the hospital, so he's gonna miss his connecting flight.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So that was interesting situation. All the flying we've done, I've never been on a flight with a medical emergency.
SPEAKER_03I'm just glad that's what it was. Like it, like it was something somewhat benign where the guy remained conscious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it wasn't like a heart attack or somebody had to be.
SPEAKER_03Because we over the we were over the ocean. There's no stopping.
SPEAKER_01Or stroke or something like that. Yeah, and I'm glad it wasn't a tactical emergency either. It wasn't somebody going crazy on a plane.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Turning it into a freaking fight. Because that's where my mind went to.
SPEAKER_03So then I could not fall back asleep after that.
SPEAKER_01Well, let's talk about prep for the flight, though. Because I think the travel prep begins before, and I we learned a lesson on this one, which we kind of knew, but we we kind of um didn't follow through. Like eat a good meal before you get on the plane, especially for an international flight.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, that could go either way. So, well, that's not fair because previous flights we've been on, they've given us a lot of food. Like, especially the flight to Dubai.
SPEAKER_01Well, but man.
SPEAKER_03We got like six meals.
SPEAKER_01Uh, first of all, that was a 13-hour flight. Second, I have to say, Emirates is another level of flying. Like, I doubt the only other airline that I've heard was that good is the Singapore one. Emirates is ridiculous. Like, and we listen, we're not flying in those, like they have these first class rooms. It's like a hotel room to fly in. We're not, that's not what we're doing. We're we're hey, we're way in the back.
SPEAKER_03We're economy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we're economy flying, okay? Economy in Emirates is ridiculous. I mean, there's stars in the ceiling and stuff, like a freaking Rolls Royce. It's crazy. Like economy and Emirates. So I can't, you put that off to the side, flying Emirates and compared to everything else.
SPEAKER_03So we flew Lufthansa, and I have their app, and it'll tell you what your meals are. Right. And so it's just, and we've I did this with our flight to Dubai. There's the um, there's an app that you can download that helps you fight jet lag and adjust to different time zones. I can't remember what it is. Time saver or something. I can't no, I can't remember what it is. But anyway, it a few days prior to the leaving, it'll tell you like this is the time of day you should try to get sun exposure. Here's when you should have caffeine, stop caffeine, try to take a nap here, go to bed here to start to adjust you for time. Um, the time change. Very effective and it could work. However, it's very time consuming. So I can understand how it would be worth it if you were a professional athlete, if you were, if you, you know, had to land and then immediately attend like a very important business meeting or something for work. But for just leisurely tourism, I don't think it was worth it because then even after you land and then before your return flight, you have to start, you know, and doing stuff. And so two days before we fly out, I don't want to say, Oh, I'm sorry, I need to go take a nap. I don't want to go see this site because I need to get ready for back home. Maybe, I mean, you can decide if that's good for you or not. But the thing with eating a big meal prior to leaving, and then you're gonna eat on the plane. But what are you gonna skip your meal on the plane? Because when they feed you on the plane, they're timing it for when you land that that's going to be like you're gonna have breakfast before you land because we landed at 10 a.m. So do you see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I here's what I'm what I'm looking at. And this is like Oh, the portions are small? The portions are terrible usually. I mean, it it's a plain meal, right? Like you can't ask for a full course thing like those.
SPEAKER_03And they don't want people just like blowing up the bathrooms either.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, that is terrible. And again, Emirates shout out because they were cleaning the bathrooms like every hour or so. It seemed like somebody was in there cleaning the bathroom. Um, but the bathrooms were also huge on the Emirates flight. Yeah, I'm gonna say the Emirates is something else.
SPEAKER_03Because I remember on this Lufthansa flight, I went in and was like flossing and brushing my teeth, and I was like, I had no room.
SPEAKER_01Like, yeah, no, no, the Emirates one crazy. But um what I'm thinking about is making better choices along the way. Because once you leave your house, it becomes a I'm traveling, I understand. You know, all rules are out the window. So instead of starting that early, and that that that's the the the probably one of the underlying lessons of traveling is like, hey, put yourself in a position to make better choices, right? So that you're not going on a trip for a week and then you come back 10 pounds heavier or some crazy crap, and you've undone all the progress that you've made in your little health journey.
SPEAKER_03So our flight was 6 p.m.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I worked the morning like like so. We both worked like half a day. So I had my regular breakfast, but you know, it was Friday, so I had a really early breakfast. Then I had my lunch. You know, we didn't have, I don't think I had a snack that day. Yeah, I had my first snack of the day. So I was like half fed by the time we started heading towards the airport. And then we're sitting at the airport, and it's like, okay, we got there early because it's Miami Airport and you don't know what you know what to expect. We got through in like 10 minutes through security, but it couldn't get away.
SPEAKER_03It was one of those things where I was very anxious because it was too easy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was so easy. I mean, we got there like just walked in, walked straight up to the counter. Here's the check bag, then go to security. There's like two people in front of us, and I'm like, whoa, that was the easiest international.
SPEAKER_03Especially coming off the um the TSA, the was it department opponent DHS cuts. And I know it's over because it's like the government wasn't.
SPEAKER_01And Miami Airport never had a problem.
SPEAKER_03Right, but still that was just on my mind, like be prepared, be prepared. And then international flights. Now that the European, uh the EU is doing the is it the entry and exit system thing. Oh, the B system thing. Yeah. Um, they tell you, and I and I yes, I understand that's when you get to Europe, but I'm I wasn't sure. I'm like, are they gonna make us do anything over here? Because it's it's just a little bit more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So the the whole thing was that we had plenty of time at the airport, and the timing of it was right when we were starting to get hungry.
SPEAKER_03So you're which I had brought protein bars.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you but you start thinking about food, you're like, oh, I'm starting to get hungry, you know, it's almost dinner time, blah, blah, blah. And that's where you start coming off the rails. Where I was like, and granted, you know, just the way the day failed. But if you can plan your situation, be like, okay, I'm gonna eat something right here so that I'm not making choices hungry at the airport with expensive convenience stores where they charge you like three dollars more for the same snack, and then everything's a bunch of BS, and then the little healthy snacks that they have are extremely expensive. You know? Now, if we have to eat at the airport, convenience store, you know, friggin' food at the airport, what do we usually get?
SPEAKER_03Uh plantain chips.
SPEAKER_01If they have them without crazy stuff in them. Pork rinds, pork rinds are usually that's a very good go to. It's a high protein. The cleaner brands, like you know, Epic or I think is it 4501, whatever the one the airport has, that are like just fried in pig fat and or air fried with a little. Bit of pig fat and just pig skin, literally, like three ingredients: salt, um, pork skin, and air fried. That's it. And they're tasty. Beef jerky too, but you gotta look at the ingredients.
SPEAKER_03But I usually bring snacks.
SPEAKER_01Yep. You're bringing some protein bars.
SPEAKER_03If uh if we have like leftover peppers or cucumbers, I'll bring those. If it's not international, I'll bring apples.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Some of the convenience stores will have fruit, they'll have bananas and apples. Um, or we brought dried fruit is another one that we've gotten at the airport. But again, look at the ingredients because a lot of dried fruit will have mysterious oils in it. Yeah. So, but you can find some that it's just the dried fruit, right?
SPEAKER_03Right. And then if it comes down to it, and because I've flown some mornings where I'm just really hungry and I could not have breakfast at home. And so most airports will have a Starbucks. And so I'll do the egg bites. Yes, we can talk about whether there's seed oils in them. However, I think that the protein prioritization trumps that with what you know.
SPEAKER_01When you have very little choices, yes. So if you notice that we're protein forward, right? Because that's what's actually going to be filling. So when we go to the little convenience store, it's like, okay, what has protein in it? Okay, we got pork rinds, we got beef jerky. Now let me sift through the beef jerky and the pork rinds to find the ones that have better ingredients.
SPEAKER_03Um epic bars or not epic bars. Um RX bars are usually at most convenience stores in the airport. Starbucks will have uh oh, what are those bars that I like that are uh no, but they're really heavy and fat. Oh shoot, I love them. They taste so good. But they'll have these protein bars that are good, they have to be refrigerated.
SPEAKER_00And then Oh, the perfect bars.
SPEAKER_03Perfect bars. And then Starbucks also has siete chips.
SPEAKER_01Very new thing. Yeah, Siete is a Starbucks now. Um again, they got acquired, that's why they're at Starbucks. Um, keep a keep an eye out for the ingredients. For now, they're good to go. Um, something thinking about that protein forward type thing. Also, you know, you get into the dried fruit or you buy the actual fruit. But if you notice, it's like, okay, pick a protein and then we put something on the side so that you actually fill yourself up. Yeah. If you start grabbing carby stuff, then you're gonna turn into a carby girl.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we used to just kill some checks mix.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. You start doing checks mix and things like that, and you're just loading up on carbs and empty calories, and you're never gonna satisfy your hunger. Yep. Yeah. Now you're bloated on day one of your trip.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And another thing we always do is we bring uh water bottles to fill up at the airport. And I'm gonna start bringing, especially when we fly domestically, a coffee cup.
SPEAKER_01So they they could pour the coffee, yeah, awesome airplane coffee in your cup.
SPEAKER_03No, or like when we get coffee, I get Starbucks, we can just have them put it here. Or more importantly, when we go to where we're going, like when we go to Summer Strong in a month, instead of using the plastic cups, we can get that because then the plastic cups don't have lids and we're sitting there in a room full of like hundreds of people.
SPEAKER_01Makes sense.
SPEAKER_03A spill. Whoops, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's a good idea. And it doesn't take up that much space. It's a good idea. And obviously, when we take the water bottles, we took we have smaller ones to travel with that fit in the side of our bags. Okay. Um, we also, Janie got me. I used to have like a roll-on bag, like carry-on-sized roll-on bag, but it wasn't European size. So Janie It's like Texas size. Yeah, it's Texas size. Look at girl. So it's just something I've had for forever. And and Janie had this idea of getting these backpacks, right? This I call them coda Gucci's. They're coda paxie. Coda Paxis, the brand, but they're they're fancy and um they're actually pretty cool. Now I'm like, yo, this is the way to go.
SPEAKER_03So it's your it opens like a suitcase, right? And you pack it like a carry-on, but it goes on your back. So while you're walking through the airport, which is usually a significant walk, especially if you park in the parking garage, you have to walk to the terminal, walk to the airport, anything, you're rocking, right? And so now it's a little bit of like a zone two workout. So great, you're getting some stuff in.
SPEAKER_01Your hands free.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're hands free. So you can handle things like let me get my passport, let me get my boarding pass, all these things, no problem. And it's just a more you don't have like you're more aware because so many people they're unaware, they're like on their phone pulling their suitcase and they cut you off, and then like the suitcase like hits your like, you know? And so it's just it's part of you.
SPEAKER_01One thing I love too is like when you're you see the masses uh going up and down in the air in the airport and we're taking the stairs, and there's like three people on the stairs. I love it. I'm like, yes.
SPEAKER_03What airport were we at where we took the stairs, but it ended up being like it was in Germany.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Munich.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was it was like five flights, just straight.
SPEAKER_01It was, but it would just wasn't like like this, it was just I have this thing now where like once I start going up stairs, if if there's a lot of stairs, I feel like I'm gonna fall back. So I'm like leaning into it, and we were that was a nice.
SPEAKER_03He just completely leaned forward.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I almost almost want to put my hands on the stairs. I just feel like I'm gonna fall back. It's weird, but um, yeah, I love that feeling of like going up the stairs while everybody's on the escalator, literally everybody, and then you're passing everybody up the stairs. I'm like, yes, the rebellion is real.
unknownI love it.
SPEAKER_03I just look at it as like I'm about ready to sit for X amount of hours.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, it loosens you up too to do that. Um, and then you know you're not really gonna be getting workouts, so you want to have as much uh non-exercise activity.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So the biggest thing I would tell people, because a lot of people will avoid this, is they'll avoid water intake because they don't want to pee either at the airport, on the plane, or whatever. And I would say, don't worry about that. You need to drink water, water, water, water. You get so dehydrated on planes, so dehydrated.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, but plane rides are especially international trides like that. They dry you up, you get blow gassy, you get bloated, like you're up in the air. The changes in air pressure and all that stuff really could mess you up. You don't feel great when you land. Usually my feet are swollen too when I land. It's it's uh mine weren't. I am not wearing compression socks. Like I am not looking like a 70-year-old lady. Uh I can't. I'd rather just be on my feet or something, which I did pop up and did some air squats and like sat in a squat in the little corner. Um, yeah. I got up and peed so much. You know what I noticed? A lot of women were wearing like compression gear. Yeah. And a lot of the dudes were not. I'm like, yeah, that's right. Men, we're stubborn.
unknownWe don't do stuff.
SPEAKER_03Y'all just gonna pop off blood clots.
SPEAKER_01We we don't no, I'm not popping off blood clots because I didn't take the mysterious thing that gave me blood.
SPEAKER_03Oh stop. Anyway, so anyway. Well, ever since I had that surgery, especially well, yes, I my feet swell during flights, but more so on my right leg, ever since I had that um skin graph placed, my right foot tends to swell easier. And when it does from that pressure sore that I got, it still like impacts the superficial uh nerves. So I get tingles on the top of my foot if my foot swells. And so I'm sorry, just wearing compression socks, and then I don't have to deal with foot tingles. Okay.
SPEAKER_01But you do look like a 70-year-old lady. I'm just gonna throw that out there.
SPEAKER_03But I'm your 70-year-old lady.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. You only yeah, that's the type of stuff you do because you're married. Like, I'm married, I don't need to be impressive.
SPEAKER_03I would do it even if I wasn't.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03We saw a girl who was wearing shorts with the compression socks. At least I wore like joggers over them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was that was uh brazen. That was very uh audacious of her.
SPEAKER_03So I don't care. I felt fine, great when we landed.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so we land in Germany. Yes. Um, we landed in Munich and we drove to Nuremberg, which was what, like a two-hour drive almost? Two and a half hour drive, yeah. Um, first of all, Germany, that uh it's very pretty, like these rolling mountains and rolling hills all over the place. We got the drive on the autobahn. Yeah, well, but it's it's very rolling terrain, right? Um, and it's green and it's like it's very, it kind of looks like the northwest, really. Um and we got to drive on the auto-bond. That is so cool.
SPEAKER_03Oh, when we sold it. So we rented a car, and when I had made the reservation, we whenever we go to Europe, we like to get little meet meets. So just like a little car.
SPEAKER_01So we could be really European.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And it's just the two of us, right? And we don't have a ton of bags, so there's no point in having a big vehicle, and they tend to be more uh fuel efficient. And so we like to, you know, drive around, see things. And the guy, he was so nice. He looked at our reservation, he's like, I'm gonna upgrade you.
SPEAKER_01He didn't want us driving around Europe in a meet meat.
SPEAKER_03So we got a power wagon.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, those those German station wagons are fire.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like they they are, you know, and and your friend Dan, he pointed it out. He's like, Yeah, they're station wagons, but they're really sports cars that look like station wagons because they got a lot of engine for the Autobahn.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and so when when you're on the Autobahn, the likelihood of you getting passed by a vehicle that's a station wagon is so high.
SPEAKER_01I I told the guys, you know, like my close friends are really into cars. They always have been. I'm like the odd one out that I know about cars because I hear them talk about them so much, but I don't know anything about cars like that. But, you know, I'm expecting Porsche's and M serious BMW used to blow the doors off of us on the Autobahn. And it's station wagons that are blowing. I mean, I'm doing over a hundred miles an hour on the Autobahn, and I have to get over for a station wagon that's going like 130. I mean, they're blowing the doors off of cars on that thing. Pretty freaking cool. And then you're seeing all this, you know, beautiful rolling terrain. It was, it was, it's definitely an experience. I would definitely do that. I can see how that could be really fun in a sports car, too.
SPEAKER_03One thing that Germany's really good at that the US could um take into consideration is there is no hanging out in the left lane at all, especially on the Autobahn, because people are going. Like you go over to pass, you get back over. In the US, people hang out in the left lane. Always, not going quickly.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Violations, especially in states like Florida and Texas, where you know that people are are going or zoom zooming on the left lane, and you're hanging out on the left lane, bro. Come on now. Come on, now that's not good for your health. Now, looking at it food-wise, Germans, obviously, people think about sauerkraut, and people are gonna think about schnitzels, and sausages, and all that stuff. Let me tell you something about these sausages and these schnitzels in Germany. Delicious. So good, delicious. Now, there's a difference, right? I think the Nuremberg sausages are smaller and they're smoked, like they're like grilled sausage. Yeah, and Dan told us the Munich ones are are uh kind of boiled, that sort of thing. But the Nuremberg ones, I mean, phenomenal. Like you get this big old plate of just sausages and sauerkraut. Oh my god, it was so.
SPEAKER_03And we also had the German equivalent of um pernil. Pernil?
SPEAKER_01Pernil. Ooh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Remember that?
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, it was this pork shoulder thing, which and it had the fat on top. Yeah, and it was all and it's slow cooked, like slow roasted. I don't know how long it takes them to cook, but that thing was falling like right off the bone. And it had the crunchy fat on top. So she's Janie says it pernil in Puerto Rico.
SPEAKER_03But so Dan says it, yes, he says it like that on purpose, and then I get confused, and then I'm around his family and I'm like pernil, and then they laugh at me. But that's because how he says it.
SPEAKER_01Sabotage. I'm just saying it in English. I'm saying pernil in English, pernal. But you know, it's roasted pork. Like the pork that we eat for Christmas in Puerto Rico, it's like roasted, it's got a crispy top, super garlicky, super delicious. So I had the German version of that, which it's cool to see how foods are all over the place, but that there's different versions of it. And that thing was amazing. I mean, it was so good, like crunchy, but the meat was all soft and falling.
SPEAKER_02Oh it was very good.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. Germans eat a lot of pork. They eat a lot of pork. They got beef too, but they eat a lot of pork. Um, the sausages were fire. Now, here's the thing the food, you think like sausages, this stuff sounds super fatty, right? And it is fatty, but it's not the level of fatty that you would be expecting it to.
SPEAKER_02Agreed.
SPEAKER_01Like, and ever since we went to Dubai, which was our first international trip together, and my first time like flying to that side of the world and being outside a plane in a normal place. Um I've no every fried food that I've eaten over there, when I grab it, Portugal was the same thing, Croatia was the same thing. I you grab it with your hands, and I'm expecting my hands to be all greasy and whatnot. They're not. But it's fried. What's what gives, bro?
SPEAKER_03Well, in I know in Czech when you had that schnitzel, it's fried in butter.
SPEAKER_01Fry exact. Yeah, I had a schnitzel in in check, fried. So schnitzel is like a pork schnitzel or chicken, whatever you're having. It's basically chicken fried steak. Like chicken fried steak, right? So I had a pork schnitzel in Czech. It was fried, breaded, and it was fried in butter. And they put it on there, fried in butter. Um, and it was delicious, and it wasn't greasy at all. I didn't feel like I ate a grease bomb afterwards. I mean, and all these sausages and stuff, you're thinking that it's gonna be super greasy stuff. It's not. And that to me is impressive. And I think that has to do with the probably meat quality is gonna be one there, but it's the way they're cooking it. They're not cooking all this stuff.
SPEAKER_03And we didn't ever ask seed oils or not. We didn't inquire about that, and it didn't say it just said fried in butter the entire time. Was it finished? Uh who knows, right? We didn't dig into it that much while we were there. Um, but there's a notable difference in I'll use what the um the chemists use when they make the mouthfeel. Notable difference in the mouthfeel, the how you feel after um discomfort. There was none, even if we ate maybe more, right? Or like a typical American food, like we had a pizza over there. We didn't feel delicious pizza too.
SPEAKER_01I loved it. Um it is that's something that I've every time we've taken a trip to the other side. I'm like, yo, I'm eating fried food. It doesn't feel like fried food. I touch it with your hand, you don't have grease in your hands, you eat it afterwards, you feel nice and light, like you just had a normal meal. Very different stuff, you know, and check their the distinctions there. They're frying this schnitzel in butter. Um, I don't think they're using seed oils to fry. I don't know. A lot of it, and we can't, you know, we're speculating here because of how we feel afterwards.
SPEAKER_03But they do use a lot of rapeseed.
SPEAKER_01So the Germans have a rapeseed oil, like I had that down here. They have a rapeseed oil um fields.
SPEAKER_02Fields, rapeseed fields, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Rapeseed fields, they have uh a rapeseed oil uh industry of of making rapeseed oil. Now, the thing, which is something that I we should look into. I I put it as a note here, but I didn't have time to research it properly. Um, because they cold press their rapeseed oil over there. So I wanna I wanna see what's the difference there, right?
SPEAKER_03So that's how olive oil and coconut oil is traditionally avocado oil too. But it's cold pressed, which means it's it's not there's no utilization of chemicals. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_01Um, no, it's it's an extraction technique. Uh it it implies less chemicals added to it with all with olive oil, with coconut oil, with avocado oil, like it's easier to get oil out of those fruits, if you will. Um, but rapeseed, which is where canola oil comes from, and it's this yellow, little yellow flower that looks like a weed. And when you see a whole field of rapeseed, it's just like tiny little yellow flowers all over the place. Um, but this getting oil out of these seeds is way, way harder. So it requires way more chemicals, you know, to deodorize them. And this is where we think the damage of the seed oils really comes when you start adding hexane to deodorize it and all this other stuff. Um, and the high use of heat to extract it too, like you're heating this thing up to a level that it shouldn't be heated up to. Because, you know, when you heat things excessively, and this goes for cooking steak and whatever as well, you start breaking down the composition of it, and then free radicals become a thing. And this is where, you know, you get the whole, oh, meat causes cancer when you're eating a lump of charcoal that you overcooked, right? Um, but same thing applies to these seed oils. Like a lot of the the damaging effects of the seed oils isn't necessarily the plant that it's coming from, it's the stuff that we're doing to actually extract that oil because it's almost like you weren't meant to get oil out of these seeds, right? That's what you have olives and coconuts and avocados for and animal fats for, right? Um, but they they have a very large rapeseed oil uh industry, if you will, in Germany. So I don't know if they're using it to cook a lot or if they're just selling it to us, you know, like oh, these stupid Americans are gonna eat the crap out of this. Let me just sell it to them. Um, so that's something we'll research that for a future episode. But the food just feels cleaner, like you could eat something crazy, even desserts. Like we're having gelato. We had gelato like it was our job. And and the you eat it and you don't feel the same. You just feel lighter, you feel it's cleaner stuff, you know, it tastes different too. The sweets are less sweet, which people might be like, Well, I don't want it. It's less sweet because they didn't add a bunch of BS to it. Yeah, you know, they might have just put a little, they put the fruit, they put some milk, some egg yolks, and they put some sugar in there. Boom, here's your dessert, right? It's very simple stuff. So it's something to consider. Um, one thing that we had in in Germany too was uh a Turkish burrito.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the listen, guys. The donor, the donner?
SPEAKER_01The well the donor is the sandwich. I think the no the donor. The durum.
SPEAKER_03Durham is the wrap.
SPEAKER_01Is the wrap. They basically take a big old thing of like a big old tortilla, and they put this shaved lamb or chicken in there, you know, from the little spiral thing.
SPEAKER_06The kebab.
SPEAKER_01The kebab, and then they put the yogurt in there and they put the fire cabbage, you know, with the stuff. It's Turkish food wrapped up like a burrito. Delicious.
SPEAKER_03Very popular over there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, very popular.
SPEAKER_03Czech and uh Germany.
SPEAKER_01I mean, and that thing is it was like a chipotle, get out of the way. Give me one of them Turkish burritos. Like that, it was a generous portion of meat and vegetables wrapped in this thing. Delicious. Um, and again, something you'd expect to be super fatty, super heavy.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't, it doesn't hit the one that you had that we had in Nuremberg was better than the one we had in Prague.
SPEAKER_01Correct. The Nuremberg one was really good. Really good. I mean, it was top-notch food. I was as soon as that thing hit my mouth, I was like, oh my god, I've never had anything like this before. This is really good.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, something to consider when you go, if you guys go over to Germany, think about them Turkish burritos. You want one for sure in your life. Get it in there. Um, you know, one thing, whenever we go to Europe and all these other places, there is so much smoking and drinking. Um, so yeah. I think the Czechs smoke more than the Germans, but the Germans, they I was surprised with by how much they smoked.
SPEAKER_03I didn't see as much cigarette smoke as vaping.
SPEAKER_01Oh, vaping is everyone was vaping is a thing.
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SPEAKER_01Peel it back a little bit. They they drink more with more meals. Like, you know, people are pouring pints at 9.30 in the morning. I was that's shocking to me. I'm like, whoa, my guy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, last time last time I went to Germany and visited our the friends that we stayed with when we were in Nuremberg were my friends Dan and Trish. Trisha, excuse me. And they I went there 11 years ago and we ended up going to um Oktoberfest. It was a last day of Oktoberfest in Munich. And we were I remember having this conversation because one of the people that was with us was somebody that they knew who had um like been a student of theirs or helped babysit their child. I can't remember. No, they didn't have a child yet, so it must have been like a former something, I can't remember. But um she was like 18 or 19 or something like that. And in Germany, I think you can drink at 18. Yeah. And the thing is, is the culture around drinking is so different than it is in the US. Whereas drinking is just a part. It's like it's almost not a big deal, right? It's just a part. Like you start like when even though you're not legal to drink, maybe you're 16, but you have like a family event at your house or whatever, and people are over, they'll give you like a little pin.
SPEAKER_01I think the whole the drinking but they don't drink to intoxication. Like they like they drink toten.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're 20. When they turn 18, it's not like in the equivalent to the US, you turn 21, take 21 shots, puke your brains out, black out. Good job. It's not like that.
SPEAKER_01We I think they drink more often in less quantity, it seems. Uh, this is my observation. You know, like I'll have a beer with lunch, I'll have a beer with dinner type of thing, versus I'm gonna have six beers with dinner.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Or I'm gonna have, I didn't drink from Monday through Thursday, but from Thursday to Sunday, I drank two weeks' worth of drinking to a drink.
SPEAKER_03It's also, you know, I don't recall at the grocery store seeing like a 30-pack of beer.
SPEAKER_01No, that it's higher quality beer, obviously. Like, and and that's another of a social thing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's very where I think I and obviously we weren't in people's homes seeing are they drinking more at home alone? Because in the US, I know a lot of people drink at home alone.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, and it it the beer, I mean, obviously we're good we're in Germany, we're gonna try a beer out, right? And then in in Czech, um, they supposedly came up with Budweiser and we stole it from them. Supposedly it is a claim. You know, they made Pilsner beers and pils in Czech. Um, so we have to try it out. It does taste better than Budweiser here, by the way. Um, yeah, fight me. It's like, hey, the Czech version is better. What can I say? I mean, I'm sorry. But um the you have a beer and it just feels different. I don't know. And it has higher alcohol content too now. It's not like you're drinking a freaking light beer or an old duels or something. This is high gravity stuff.
SPEAKER_03So remember when I asked this woman like what the difference between the two beers on the menu was, and she's like, Well, one's an EPA. And I'm like, EPA?
SPEAKER_01I I caught it. I was like, it's an IPA.
SPEAKER_03And I was like, Oh no, no, no, thank you. I don't want to lick a tree.
SPEAKER_01I'm good. Those IPAs. Oh dear God. But um, it I don't know, it just tastes different too.
SPEAKER_03Did and it didn't, I didn't feel intoxicated. Granted, we never had more than one in a sitting, and we tended to get smaller ones when we got them.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was gonna kick my butt because we just don't we don't drink. So I'm like, this is higher gravity stuff, higher quality beer. I'm just gonna have this one thing and I might get a little buzz off of it. Right. But I didn't.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, we even had one mid-hike at the top of a mountain.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was cool. Uh the fact that they had beer up there was that just goes to show you that it's like, yeah, that you there's a lot of drinking, you know. But all that smoking, all that vaping, all that drinking, two things, obviously, and you've heard us and other people talk about this before. Obesity rates, just observationally speaking, and then you could put the numbers behind it, are way lower than ours. Cancer, way lower than ours, heart disease, way lower than ours. And this is where you know we the the picture starts to get painted, right? Like these people are not so my observation, and I have another uh client that made this up, he pointed this out to me because he spends a lot of time in the UK, right? He's got like a he's married to a person from the UK and they have family over there, so he's always back and forth. Um, and he's like, okay, their average, so if we take our average and their average is better than ours, meaning less obesity, less disease compared the average European to the average American. But when you go out to the fringes, like really sick people and really healthy people, then we have more, like you see more fit people, like muscular people, people that work out more, like little fitness fanatics over here than you do over there. You know, so but we also have more of the really sick population as well, given that our average is sicker. It's a pretty interesting observation. Um so they do less than us to stay in a better situation. Like they don't have gyms in every corner in Europe, you know, they don't have 200 influencers talking about fit. I mean, 200 is a very conservative. We have thousands upon thousands of fitness influencers in the US, right? Targeting the US market, and it's still not enough. We're still the unhealthiest country in the world, right? That's why we're in it. We're like, man, we're like a thousand and one people talking about health.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it's still not enough, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I would say that, especially in well, Germany and Prague, Prague, they utilize the outdoor for activity much more than we do.
SPEAKER_01Yes. So something I put that on here too. The day we got to Germany to Nuremberg and we went out, it was very sunny. It was kind of chilly, but it was a sunny day in Germany, beautiful day, which was surprising to me. I expected it to be all rainy and overcast, which is what usually people think about Germany. And um, and it wasn't. It was very sunny, and people were outside in droves, sitting in the sun, hanging out under trees, like big groups of people, young people, older people having a beer outside, you know, eating ice cream gelato outside. There, everybody was out in the sun and just congregating, right? And that was pretty cool to see. I'm like, man, it's it's it's fun, right? When you see a bunch of people sitting around and just having a good time on a what day was it? It was Saturday, so perfect, right? Um, enjoying the sun. Um next day, it was very rainy.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't very rainy, it was very overcast. It was just a constant light rainslash drizzle.
SPEAKER_01But there were still a lot of people walking around.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01A lot of people, way more people than you'd expect on a day like that walking around.
SPEAKER_03So you get this attitude in the in probably in the northeast here. There's never bad weather. There's just bad clothing options, right? And so even though it was raining, people were out, they were wearing their raincoats, there's kids playing in the park still. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01It um it also, when we went to Regensburg, coming back from Czech, we stopped in this town in Regensburg, and it was another very sunny day in Germany.
SPEAKER_03Regensburg, Germany, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it was, I I had to take video of it because you know, Regensburg is like it sits over the Danube River, like half and half, which is a huge river. So people were like what river is it? Danube. The Danube River. Little little high school joke. Um, but uh it it really a lot of people were just sitting outside in the sun.
SPEAKER_03It was also Friday late afternoon. So people were just getting off of work, out of school.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's like it very picnicky. Like you think about people having picnics, and people are like, oh, people still have picnics. I guess they do over there. You know, they got their little thing laid out, they're sitting on the grass, people got their shoes off and they're hanging out in the sun by the river. I mean, it was picturesque, right? But I'm talking, um, it's not one or two people. I'm talking a lot of people were hanging out outside, sitting in the grass in little small groups and just kind of hanging out. Um, I'm like, man, that that looks that looks very healthy to me, right? You're sunny, you're connecting with people, you're right next to a beautiful body of water. You know, I don't know, man. That just sounds very, very, very healthy. You know, instead of sitting somewhere on your phone drinking yourself into a stupor, whatever. Anyway, um what's the takeaway on Germany here? I think the food is great. Uh if you go to Germany, definitely eat that food. It's very different. I mean, things that sound unhealthy to you, just eat them and they're really clean.
SPEAKER_03And I would say with the people, the things that um struck or that words are hard. Tired. Things that stood out to me. There we go. And I was I had the advantage of we stayed with friends who have lived there for over 10 years. They have a daughter who they're they're American, they they work as civilians on an army base, but they had their daughter in Germany. So she speaks German, she speaks three languages German, English, and British, she told us. Okay.
unknownThat's pretty funny.
SPEAKER_03And so she's been raised in Germany, and so they're raising her in that culture. And so, Dan, my friend that lives over there, as we were walking around and like going into the downtown Nuremberg, we stopped at everyone stops at crosswalks and follows the rules of the light of the crosswalk, right? And even if there's no cars coming, people won't cross if it's not green to cross. And he says that they do that, especially if a kid is in their presence because they want to teach and reinforce that behavior that you don't cross the street until it's green to go.
SPEAKER_04It takes a village.
SPEAKER_03I thought was great. Yeah, so it takes a village, okay? I don't think in America we always think about who's who's around us. How are we influencing the decisions of who's around us, around us? What standard or what example are we setting, especially for younger kids with our behaviors? The other thing is that kids are promoted to be very independent over there at a young age. I think Trisha was telling us at age six or seven, it's like a rite of passage that the kids start going to the bakery because those they're like little bakeries in every neighborhood.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, let's pause there for a second. They're baking bread er day over there. That bread is fresh.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and she said it won't really last greater than one or two days. Yeah. So it's it's like what we talked about on previous episodes about Europe. You're constantly having to go every day to get food because it's fresh. It's not going to be able to sit on the shelf for two weeks because there's a ton of chemicals and things in there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, it is fresh. That bread, every day, everywhere you go, you're going to get fresh bread. You know, and if you take it home and you want it for one or two days, you just toast it and it's good to go, right back up. Um, they have they actually banned a lot of ingredients in Europe that we use in our bread over here, like BHT. We've talked about that in past episodes, and then we could get into the glyphosate usage over there or whatever. But a lot of fresh bread, a lot of cheese. I've never seen a cheese counter like we saw in that German grocery store.
SPEAKER_03I don't really remember that grocery store because that's when the jet lag hit me and I fell asleep standing up in the grocery store. I was like, I was weakened at Bernie's.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to my life. But no, the cheese counter was huge. I've never seen that much cheese in my life. I don't, I don't think even Wisconsin got that much cheese. I mean, it's all different types of cheeses, but hey, cheese is bad for you, whatever. Okay, that's what they say. Anyway, um, the water, how about water? They serve they have a lot of water in glass bottles over there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, water glass bottles.
SPEAKER_01Um you could also drink the tap.
SPEAKER_03The tap water is good. They hold their tap water to a higher standard. We didn't check to see exactly what is allowed in or out, but uh, we got an Airbnb in Prague, and that's one of the things that they mentioned. The host was like, yes, the water is drinkable. Um, the only place I've been to where the water hasn't been drinkable is um Dubai and Mexico. And in Dubai, they had a water filter in the kitchen to get water from.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And in Mexico, the house we stayed in was all reverse osmosis.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_01Uh Dubai, it's a desert, obviously. So they're wherever they're getting water from. I'm assuming the ocean and desalinating. Um that there's a question there of what they're using. I'll tell you what they're not using in Dubai, in Croatia, in Germany, and Czech. There's no fluoride in the water. We're one of the only countries in the world that still does that, and that, or that does that in general. Um, and there is the use of chlorine is way more limited. Like you, you know, here in Florida, you can it smells like a pool when it's certain times of the month. You open your tap and it's like literally smells like a pool. Yeah. Like the amount of chlorine they use. Not in Germany, not in Czech, not in Dubai, not in Croatia, you know.
SPEAKER_03So my skin and hair was gray over there. Yeah. And then we come back here and it's like you're drying out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So just things to consider. I'm pretty sure there's ways of um purifying water that don't involve the heavy use of chlorine. I'm just gonna throw that out there.
SPEAKER_03Um, but anyway, it was just great to see that um, like Dan said, it takes a village. And so they're instilling that independence in kids at a young age to be able to go. They can go to the bakery, they start to learn social interactions, they learn responsibility, they learn, you know, a little bit of independence too. And everyone is there helping to and you know enforce it, right? Where in the US, I could see if a kid is by themselves, people would be like, why is that kid by themselves?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You know, judging and worrying. And so it's that was something I really appreciated from being over there.
SPEAKER_01We used to be like that back in the day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_0190s, 80s, 70s. We peaked in the 90s. Anyway, um, going over to Czech. Now, something, and this is something that I notice in both countries. A lot of older people that are riding bikes and going on hikes and things like that. Like the the hike we did in Czech, that was no joke. That was a uphill, uphill.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That was an uphill, uphill.
SPEAKER_03There's a lot of stairs. Yes, and a lot of decline.
SPEAKER_01Uphill, uphill. Yeah. Like I'm talking, like, we're we're leaning into that to go uphill, and there's some old people out there just trucking it out. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of people on bikes and things like that. But I'm talking about like older people that you would expect to be out there kind of dragging their feet somewhere and they're now they're going. That's pretty cool to see. Um, that they're still, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, that's something that's out of life.
SPEAKER_03I told Dan in the US, I think we have a lower threshold for youing using assisted assisted devices or taking disability if there's any sort of inconvenience with us walking. And so you'll see people utilizing a cane or maybe their gates altered and they're moving slower, but they're still getting out, they're doing what they need to do. I'm not saying that they're going, you know, they're doing their 20-minute zone two walk or something like that, but they're going to the bakery or the butcher or the store to get things for the day and they're doing it on foot. Where in the US, it's, well, I can't walk as well. So can I get a handicap sticker? Can I get this? Can I get this? Can I get this? And it's come to a bit of a fine line, especially in medical practice, because people would come to me for a handicap placard or to get uh a DME, so durable medical equipment for something. And I have to think if I restrict their movement, am I going to cause more harm than good? Right? Now, if somebody has like in-stage COPD or CHF and then walking five feet causes significant shortness of breath, sure, let's get a handicap sticker. But if you're morbidly obese and it's uncomfortable for you to walk, would I do more harm by giving you a handicap sticker?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it it becomes like a self-licking ice cream cone type of thing where you're you're losing mobility because you're not moving.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know? And so it's on a case-by-case basis. And I could see how some people would think that that's harsh, but uh if you don't use it, you lose it. And I don't want to facilitate people losing things unnecessarily.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's crazy to see people like, okay, you're gaining all that weight because you're not moving, but you're not moving because your weight isn't allowing you to move effectively. So now we're gonna put you in a position where you're gonna keep gaining weight and moving less. So it's gonna continue to make your situation worse. And I it's sad, but it's like, man, you have to put your foot down somewhere. You gotta say, like, hey, I'm just gonna do this and push myself here a little bit so that I can get out of this conundrum, right?
SPEAKER_03But what we saw in Europe is that people, I don't even know if that's an option for a lot of people. And so they just they have no choice but to keep moving.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're not set up for that.
SPEAKER_03And is that what's keeping them uh capable, alive, more mobile, because that they have to, you know?
SPEAKER_01You know what? The the the uh the accessibility thing in Europe is is way less, I think. Like, you know, you get into these buildings and there's a bunch of stairs to get in.
SPEAKER_03You know, did you see the the wheelchair ramps? Yeah, remember Dan made a comment on them? So the wheelchair ramps, and they're very subtle. They're coming at because it's you know, older buildings and cobblestone streets, and then there's like two stairs. And what they did for wheelchairs is they just put two stone like that's the wheelchair ramp.
SPEAKER_01Yep, yep, yep, yep. Man, so somebody's gonna heave you up there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And it's like it's not at a you know ADA regulated grade. It's like, oh, the stairs, this and this. Well, the ramps just there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, somebody's gotta heave you up there. It's really interesting. Really, uh, I just they kind of it's almost like it's set up to keep people moving, right?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh by design, whether they landed on that or whether they purposely planned that out. But I listen, proof is in the fruit, right? Way less disease. The average person is way healthier than us. I just we need to change some stuff on this side. Um, in in Czech, I think same thing, a lot of walking, a lot of people outside. The days in in Prague in Czech were beautiful. I guess.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we had great weather.
SPEAKER_01Sunny all day all day. It was in the 60s, it was perfect weather. Um, and everybody's outside walking around and stuff. We stomped at that place out in Prague. Like we just went to go see some, get a coffee and see some monument, and then the the monument happened to be straight uphill, like uphill to the uphill, to the uphill place. We didn't even know it was gonna be that uphill. Like by the time I had a flannel on, I was like, I was sweating my butt off. Yeah, I wasn't expecting it.
SPEAKER_03That was really cool. I didn't know about that place. So the Airbnb we stayed at, those hosts were awesome. They had gave a ton of great food recommendations locally to the neighborhood because we stayed in a neighborhood just a little bit north of the known um area, the old town of Prague where the astronomical clock and Charles Bridge are. But there was this one monument that I didn't know of from my last time there. And it was it's this big bronze statue of a man on a horse. And it's up on the like the top of a hill, kind of looking out over Prague. And it they mentioned it on the in the Airbnb information for our place. And I was like, hey, it's right there. So let's go there and then we'll walk to Old Town. Yeah, but Dan said it was very uphill, but it was it ended up being the museum.
SPEAKER_01It's the military museum, and then it's uh the tomb of their unknown soldier as well. By coincidence, we didn't know that's what it was, but that's what it ended up being. It's on top of a hill, a big hill. You know, we went up this little uphill tunnel, which was pretty interesting. It's almost like a subway tunnel, but it's all people walking. There's something to be said about the safety of the city that people feel like here, I would never walk in that tunnel. I would never walk in that tunnel. Even at night, it's it's properly.
SPEAKER_03We did go through like a sketchy tunnel later that day, but it was okay. Like there was there definitely some drug use. And then graffiti, because they all had like spray paint cans, and we were just walking through, and they kind of like stopped talking when we were walking. And I was like, a little bit of the like uh oh alarms started going off in me, but it was okay. Yeah, no, and and um I think they were just more taken aback by Dan, honestly.
SPEAKER_01You don't see a lot of me over there.
SPEAKER_03No, there's not.
SPEAKER_01You don't see a lot of me over there. I'm like walking around maybe a couple days before I see somebody that looks like me, which is perfectly fine. That's why that's why we travel, right? Um it uh it the the that tunnel, you know, we go straight uphill in a in a pretty long tunnel, straight uphill.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, maybe 400 meters straight uphill in the tunnel.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. We went through, we use that tunnel actually a lot because it was in our neighborhood.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, good. And it was a way to get into the next neighborhood. Um pretty pretty significant incline and a lot of people just walking it up and down at all times of the day.
SPEAKER_03Sought that when the another night later on, we got turned around because we were hunting for a gelato place that didn't exist. And so we got a little turned around and we actually sought out that tunnel to get back home because it was more of a heavily traveled, safe place to be, which is uh not something we're used to here.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Um, and yeah, just all sorts of people just going up and down that thing. Um, I mean, I'm talking, it's long and it was a steady incline. Most people here would avoid that.
SPEAKER_03They're just like chit-chatting, going uphill, smoking, going uphill. There was a lot of people with e-bikes, but then one dude did not have an e-bike and he was He was huffing it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, one of those delivery guys. Yeah, he was huffing it. I'm like, you know what, sir? I commend you for not cheating with your e-bike. Um it uh then we go uphill again. We come out of the tunnel and then go into this uphill park to then keep going uphill, uphill, uphill to get to this to this monument. But what a to then go upstairs.
SPEAKER_03But what a view.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was you could see the whole city from uphill.
SPEAKER_03And the lady was like, so there was you could go to the observatory, um, the roof to look out over Prague and then kind of look down on the statue. And it's almost like you're seeing the statue's point of view from how they would have made it. And uh the lady was like, elevator, and I was like, stairs? She's like, elevator, and I was like, we'll take the stairs. Halfway up the stairs, I was like, we should take the elevator. It was a little bit higher than I thought.
SPEAKER_01We also uh did we do the national park before? Or yeah?
SPEAKER_03That was the no, we did that the first day that we did the national park.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we did we cooked our legs there for a couple of days. Yeah, that was funny, but it um from there we kind of mapped it out and we started seeing the okay, look at that. Where's the clock? It's that way, you know, kind of looking at a map on our phones and then spotting the city. And then it just ended up where we're like, okay, let's go here next. Go to the clock, and then you walk another part of the city, and then like, okay, let's go to this thing, go over the bridge, and then you see another part of the city, and it's like, let's just keep going to this park, and then you see another part of the city. Next thing you know, we did like this big loop, yeah, walk in the city. Like, we should definitely stomp it out. Yeah, and that is a good recommendation. You know, we could have taken Ubers, or they have a different we had to down. This is also by accident because they don't really have they have Ubers, but they have other car services that you're gonna have to download.
SPEAKER_03So Prague has a tram, and I tried to get Dan to take the tram or the bus, and he refused.
SPEAKER_01We just walked it and we stomped it out and we saw everything. That was that was way better. It worked out way better. We stomped we stomped it out, put some miles on the Lamborfities. Okay. No, listen, guys, when you travel, like walk as much as you can.
SPEAKER_03Because we you appreciate so much more of just the general architecture. You get to get more of a sense of the vibe, you stumble upon cool coffee shops or restaurants. You get to see the people and observe things more than if you were in a car. Um, and so in Prague, the things we wanted to see weren't outside of being able to walk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then you get like a good vibe of it, like you said. Um, the buildings are just amazing, right? And you and you can like marvel in it a little bit when you're seeing it from that versus just zipping past it in a car to this one other place, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And plus we had, you know, we had flown for nine, 10 hours, we had driven up to Nuremberg, we wandered around, but then we drove over to Prague. So we wanted, I wanted just to take a break out of the car. Because then when we went to the national park the next day, it was a two-hour drive there and then two-hour drive back. Um, and so yeah, it was nice, it was a nice change of pace.
SPEAKER_01We also eating at restaurants, which I got a little story. First day in Czech Republic after we crossed over from Germany. We stop at this little town called Karlovivari.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, it's Karlsbad in English.
SPEAKER_01And uh I guess there's like a James Bond hotel at the Grand Pup Hotel. Yeah. You know, they filmed a James Bond movie over there, so it's a destination. And then we're walking around the town. There's all these little shops. They got the hot springs that people want to drink out of. And then I we're like, okay, let's get food and then keep going to Prague. Now, I am a person that I'm rushing everywhere, every day of my life. So when I don't have to rush somewhere, like I'm on vacation, I am going to chill and let whatever's gonna happen happen. But I married somebody who lives on a schedule and refuses to not live on a schedule, refuses to live without plans and planning stuff, like planning to plan to plan stuff. So somebody was over there like, oh, but schedule, but we got to get the prog. And I'm just like, okay, well, well, let's find something to eat. And then when you drive into some of these towns, you are gonna get the touristy stuff right in the in the middle. And then, and not to say that that's bad, but if you wander off the beaten path a little bit, same thing with Prague. Like if you go to old town Prague, you're gonna get a bunch of touristy restaurants and that sort of thing. But if you wander away from there, then you really start getting to the good stuff, right? So I kind of look some food up because I wanted to check food. And I found this place. I'm like, oh, let's go over here. But it was, it was, it was a walk into the town. So we start walking, and somebody who's on a plan and a schedule was like, where are we going? Where are you? And then we were just walking past the little park, you know, it's really nice. And we start walking upstairs and walking uphill, and we find this restaurant, and it was in a basement. And I knew when I could just from seeing at the pictures uh on the maps thing, I'm like, this is gonna be good. But then when we got there, I smell that oh so sweet smell of meat being cooked over an open flame. And I I didn't want to say anything, but I figured you were like, damn it, he's right.
SPEAKER_03Um, may I respond? Yes, okay. So you were right. It was a great meal, right? And I wasn't like, ah, where are we going? Where are we going? I was like, how far away is this? Where like because why was I like that? Okay. We had just stepped foot in Prague because this was on our way, or excuse me, on our uh in check, because this was like halfway between Nuremberg and Prague. And we parked. It's a very popular destination, like you said, because of the pub hotel. And where we parked, it was a little bit far away off. We paid for parking, and I was like, Well, how many hours should we do? He's like, two, and I was like, cool. We by the time we started heading to the restaurant, we were under an hour of the parking left. And if anybody understands restaurants in Europe, it's not like the US. It is not turn the table over as quickly as possible, right? They take their time, which I love, right? But in my head, this is what I'm thinking about. I don't know what Czech or this town is on parking. I don't know if they're very strict about it. Like they have like meter police out there because it's the destination. Are they gonna want to turn things over quickly with parking? Are they are we gonna get a ticket? If we get a ticket in check, how are we gonna pay it? You know, all these things. And you're just like, let me pick the place that's the furthest away. And I'm like, we got to get back for parking, you know, because what like, right?
SPEAKER_01And then they proceed to place a farmer's plate in front of us. Well, we found the Czech meat pockets. Let's start there. They call it a pancake, but it's a pancake filled with meat, delicious. And then they put this farmer's plate in front of me. And it's roasted potatoes, garlicky roasted potatoes with chicken, beef, and pork sausages, and like chicken kebabs. And I mean, it was we ate out of that for a couple days because then we took the leftovers and were making breakfast at the hotel with some of that meat and scrambling with the eggs. Delicious, delicious. It was great.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so just listen, you just gotta let yourself go and trust your boy. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03So we did not get a ticket, so hindsight. Yes, Dan was right. Um, but if it wasn't for me and having some sort of schedule, your boy would still be in Germany, okay? He wouldn't know how to get home.
SPEAKER_01Um, yes, perfect. Okay, a couple things so we can kind of wrap this up. Um, one, we went to the gym in Czech.
SPEAKER_02In Prague.
SPEAKER_01In in Prague, um, kind of on purpose. They had a really cool gym called John Reed Fitness.
SPEAKER_03I guess there's one in LA.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And somewhere else. It's like a fitness and music club, they called it over there because the place is kind of set up like a bar.
SPEAKER_03And I think at some times they'll have a DJ. They didn't when we were there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And it's got like statues and like a library-looking thing, hardwood floors. The equipment was this German brand. It's funny because I was telling Nikolai about it and he knew what it was. He's like, he's like Jim 80. And I was like, this dude, he's such a fitness, he's such a strength and conditioning nerd. He's like, I told him, it's like, yeah, it's this, I've never seen it before. It's like this rustic kind of restoration hardware machines that almost look like they look like they're soldered, but they have this fancy leather on them. Beautiful gym equipment. And he's like, Gym 80. And I was like, Yeah, that, that, that name. Of course, you would know what it is. Um, yeah, great gym, great setup. It's funny because you know, the gym had a smell to it, right? Like it smelled like sweaty people in there. And then I went into the bathroom and the bathroom smelled like cologne, super fancy.
SPEAKER_03It was just because the way where the gym was, it was like on the second or third floor of like a business park. And so there's no ventilation. No. So that's that's the only reason why it didn't smell bad because they don't take care of it.
SPEAKER_01It's just no, well, they're not spraying fake fragrances in the air either to like keep it smelling beautiful. I mean, it's a gym and it is what it is, but the place was fun phenomenal. Like it's kind of dark, and it's funny to see how fitness culture crosses regions. Like people kind of look like, you know, the girls are wearing like the big sweats and that sort of thing, and doing their booty workouts, and the guys are all like wearing the Gym Shark stuff, you know. And I'm like, oh, everybody looks like a fitness YouTuber. This is hilarious that it crosses language barriers and stuff like that. Um, but that was fun. Working out in check was was really fun. And then something here that I uh that I wanted to close out with and it and pertains more to food. Um in Germany, driving, we drove through a lot of countryside, see a lot of farmland, a lot of farmland. But it was sad to see farms that were kind of cut short. So land, clear farmland, cut short to place solar panels on it. Okay, so this is fertile land, it's producing food, but we're gonna take up some of it with solar panels. I doubt the farmer did that. Um that smells like a government program. Like, hey, we're gonna take some of your land and we're gonna put these solar panels on it. Which solar panels turn into a bunch of scrap metal. They that they're they yield very little energy, right? They're not a super and the Germans have nuclear power, which by all means is is way, way, way, way better energy producer. So I don't know. It would make more sense to me to not use farmland to house solar panels, land that could yield food, and put the solar panels elsewhere, like on the roof of uh buildings and stuff like that. But as soon as we cross in the check, the solar panels went away and it's a lot of farmland. Potatoes, potatoes, yeah, fields of potatoes. Now here's the thing we Prague is a huge city, right? And I noticed this every town that we went to, but Prague is huge. 10 minutes away from downtown, 10, 15 minutes away from the downtown of Prague, farmland. Yeah, like untouched acres and acres and acres of farmland. I'm like, wow, where do you see that in the US where you drive outside a major city and there's farms? We get a bunch of buildings and on buildings and suburbs and suburbs, and then the farms are in another state type of thing. Um, so they have, and we've been saying this before, it's it seems like it's more of a regional food supply. And I would love to get somebody on that could break it down for us, how they do the food supply over there. Um, where the potatoes I'm eating came from a field 30 minutes away. You know what I mean? That would be great. The the beef that I'm eating came from a farm that's an hour away, right? Not from California.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And that sort of thing. Really interesting thing to see that you uh even outside of a major city, they have farmland and that they're holding it to farmland. Like it's not like it's getting encroached by developments or any of that thing. Like uh Jake was telling us that he's like, you know, gotta be on the lookout fighting developers because they'll they'll take over his farm to build some country club or something. Um, so it is crazy. It seems, observationally speaking, like I said, we should definitely, if I could get some European farming guy to talk to me about this stuff, it seems like they hold sacred some things. Where it's like, hey, this land right here feeds us. We're not gonna mess with it, right? You know, I'm not gonna put solar panels and kill half of my yield so I can house some stupid solar panels. I'm gonna keep the farm intact. And I'm gonna eat from a farm down the street and feed as many people as I can from that farm, which you know cheapens the cost of food, right? Because you don't have to ship it very far. It it just seems more like a more intelligent design. It might be too late for us, but that is something that I would think is worth exploring for us. Because I'm pretty sure that if we look back 60, 70, 80, 100 years, that's how we used to do it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Right. And now we think we're too good for it. And here we are talking about food shortages and this and that, and increasing yield and having to give into nonsense means of production to use a better word than the word that I actually want to use, you know, where we're kind of harming ourselves and talking about food shortages and stuff while we harm ourselves to make more food when we probably should have thought about it better and not start selling our farms to the freaking Bill Gates and the freaking Chinese, and you know, selling our farmland to some developers so they can build a stupid data center on it. You know what I mean? Where like, what are we talking about, bro? Food, my boy. Food. We need the food. What are you building data centers on farmland? Come on now, man. They'll don't get me started on this stuff. Anyway, that's the close out here. What I what I wanted to think about. Um, anything you want to add here from this trip that people should know? Um things that we we can learn and apply here in the U.S.
SPEAKER_03I would say travel if you can, if you have the means to. It's great just to see a different perspective of things, to open your mind to different ways of life, to learn things and to also realize that our way isn't either the only way or the best way, and that we can continue to learn from each other and evolve. And the other thing, and the lookout for a post about this, but I pooped every day on vacation. And I'm really proud of that because if Dan did not, and if anyone knows to me, it's hydration. I can I I for some reason I was in the stress, hydration, change of food, things like that. But pooping is how we get rid of the things our body doesn't want. You don't want what your body doesn't want in your body. That's a confusing statement.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But it need it needs to come out for a reason. Daily's great. And then how can we keep that regular and not disrupt it on travel? I had success this trip. Um, what'd you do?
SPEAKER_00I put it in there. Talk about it, bro.
SPEAKER_03Um, so I can explain further. DM me if you want more details. Um, but hydration, prioritize hydration. You know, I elbowed because I I let Dan have the ILC, so I elbowed him frequently on the plane to get up and pee. Um, bring electrolytes because you need more than just plain water. You need the water to be able to be absorbed, which requires sodium, potassium, magnesium. And so I brought electrolytes. I brought my mega IgG or mega mucosa to help with my gut lining support, which also helps with immunity, which can take a hit when you travel. I prioritized getting fruits and vegetables at the grocery store to have at our place to snack on or have every morning. Kiwis, they're my go-to.
SPEAKER_01Um by the way, we've said this before: fruits and vegetables. Whenever we go to the grocery stores up there, um they're smaller, they're opaque, they're not shiny, bright things big. You know, we get charged by the pound here for something. So naturally, it would make sense to GMO it into a bigger version of itself. So I could charge you more for it. You know, but you grab an apple and it's half the size of an apple here. And that's not a bad thing because we have an abomination of an apple that got manipulated into that side.
SPEAKER_03And we also prioritize, like we mentioned, walking, especially after meals. Like when you're traveling, if you can walk to a place, because then you have to walk after, and that post-meal walking helps with digestion.
SPEAKER_01Yep. That is definitely a plus of walkable places and walking everywhere and be like, oh, it's a mile away, let's walk it instead of taking an Uber. Yep. Um, yeah, I this I think a lot of what I say here, a lot of what we say when we travel abroad, is not to say I'm looking at what's because we have stuff here that's way better than theirs. We have a lot of stuff. I mean, we are we're America, you know, we're we're top dog for a reason. Um, but when it comes to healthier things like that, we are atrocious. We are atrocious. We need to like look outside of ourselves for better ways. And a lot of these countries, what they've done is kept their ways. They didn't invent anything.
SPEAKER_03Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01They kept their ways, which is probably how we used to do it a good amount of time ago. And then we just got into this uber modern situation where we want to drive everywhere and and and build these mega expanses and all this stuff. People be like, well, we got more people. I get it, I get it. But we didn't have to bastardize healthy living to the point that we have now, to where it's completely unhealthy, right? Agreed. And and modernity is this thing that's destroying us. So with them, it's like they're doing things in an older, in an old, what would seem old fashioned. Hey, I'm gonna walk more, I'm gonna get on my bike instead, I'm gonna eat a certain way, we're gonna keep our farmland a certain way. Um, and I think we have a lot to learn. As we like to say, you know, the future of health is actually in the past. It's what we stopped doing that turned into the situation that we have now, right? There's nothing, we don't need to invent anything new. We don't need more peptides and inject this and put this infrared. We don't need no more biohacking and health hacking and all this nonsense that everybody's attaching a bunch of dollars to it. There's a bunch of free stuff that we stopped doing that once we left that, we started getting unhealthier, right? Yep. Now we're reaping the now. We can see the difference clearly between how people live in these other countries and how we live here. Something to think about. I hope that you know sits in your brain and that you'd be like, you know what? We need to change some stuff in how we do business here. Yeah. Anyway, any closing thoughts, Ms. Brown, that you would like to add, Mrs. Brown?
SPEAKER_03Nope, I'm good. We already did the closing thoughts.
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