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Ep. 70 - Why So Sick?!

• Dan Brown, Janie Brown

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We lost our dog Rolo this week, and it broke something open. Why do so many dogs end up sick, weak, and put down the same miserable way? We don't think that's how it's supposed to go, for dogs or for us.

That question led us straight into health maxing. Peptides, GLPs, twenty-five injections before breakfast. We're not buying that real health comes from a vial made in China.

Then we found out Puerto Rico's GLP prescriptions jumped 74% in a year, right as Eli Lilly pours a billion dollars into the island. Convenient timing, or something else?



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SPEAKER_00

Pharmaphobic is powered by Achieve the Lifestyle, a company dedicated to helping you empower your health, redefine your lifestyle, and all for the health of it. You're listening to Pharmaphobic, where we challenge the state of health in America. I'm Janie, a physician assistant, and I've seen how healthcare keeps people dependent instead of truly healthy.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm Dan, a veteran turned fitness pro here to uncover the truth and explore simple and sustainable health solutions. From big pharma to big food, we're exposing the conflicts of interest, keeping us sick, and finding better ways to take back our health.

SPEAKER_00

No fluff, no gimmicks, just real talk, real solutions, and a little bit of fun along the way.

SPEAKER_03

Hello there. Welcome to another episode of Pharmaphobic, brought to you by Achief the Lifestyle, where we help you become the strongest, healthiest, and most capable version of yourself. As always, I'm here with my lovely companion in life, lovely co-host, and special guest in my life. And of the podcast. Miss Jane Brown, how are you doing today?

SPEAKER_00

I'm great, thank you. Ever just forever confused why you think I'm a special guest.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we have another lovely special guest today, and you won't be able to see or hear her. Maybe you'll hear her a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Miss Maggie Moo.

SPEAKER_03

Miss Maggie Moo's in the studio today, the podcast doggo. Um, this is Maggie Moo's what, like fifth episode, maybe?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she's she's just lurking in the shadows like a little panther. Where is Maggie Moo?

SPEAKER_00

She's right down in front.

SPEAKER_03

You guys could see Maggie Moo.

SPEAKER_00

I wish I could put her up here and she could just she will never not unless you put like a comfy pillow right there.

SPEAKER_03

Maggie Moo, as we've recently discovered, is a pillow fort type of girl. Um, she puts pillows down wherever you put them, she'll find them and turn them into a little pillow fort situation. And she'll hide behind them. It's it's uh it's hilarious to watch.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Speaking of doggos, yeah, she's flying solo now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Maggie is solo.

SPEAKER_00

Rolo was never on the podcast.

SPEAKER_03

No, Rolo never came to the podcast studio.

SPEAKER_00

No, but he's on our Achieve the Lifestyle photos. That's fine. But Rolo was my dog. Um, he was 14 and a half years old. And I've had him for 12 years. And on two days, three days ago, because it's Saturday, three days ago, we um we helped him transition to resting in peace. So it was a hard decision to make and never thought I mean, I you know, you want the most optimal situation to happen. I was like, you know, I'll just wake up and he'll have past in his sleep, right? But he was getting pretty bad. Um, he was getting very weak, something neurologically was going on. He couldn't maintain his balance, just seemed like staring off into space at times, didn't know where he was. And really the biggest thing for me was the obvious thing he stopped eating, but uh he stopped, his tail wouldn't wag anymore at all for the past at least month.

SPEAKER_03

And so the lack of interest in food is lack of interest in food was a big one. Rolo was a fat butt.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then he stopped going outside. Like I'd have to taking him for just to go outside and pee and turn right back inside was so taxing for him. And a couple times in the past week and two, we've had to carry him outside. So it was like I'm really forcing him to be a dog. Um, I was putting like putting food into his mouth so that he would eat. Because yes, he was in lost interest in food, but it was like he didn't remember how to pick up the food. Yeah, he'd put it in his mouth and it would just fall out. And so um at that point, it's you know, what are we doing? And so we took him to the vet. Um, and unfortunately we weren't aware, and I mean, hindsight is 2020, right? And so looking back at pictures from April and beginning of May, I saw the dramatic difference to him to earlier this week, where he had lost a lot, specifically muscle. Like his his hip bones were protruding, his shoulders were protruding. Um, his head was kind of like the bones on his head were very apparent, eyes were a little bit sunken in. So, you know, I opted to never do blood work on him. So I you know, probably had some sort of organ failure going on, probably had cancer. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he had bulbs and stuff. He that boy had cancer.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so um when we got to the vet, she was like, Yeah, he's lost a significant amount of weight. And I was like, Yeah, because he clocked in at 50 pounds. This boy was sitting at 65, 70 in his prime.

SPEAKER_03

And Rolo had a vacation when Janie and I went to Puerto Rico and we with his uncle Jake. With his uncle Jake, and his uncle Jake put bacon grease in his food every day. And we came back, and I was like, Janie, is is Rolo chunkier?

SPEAKER_00

Living his best life.

SPEAKER_03

And he stayed chunky for a good amount of time. It was chunky boy Rolo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so um, and she also said his breathing pattern was consistent with discomfort, and so that just broke my heart because no thank you. And so um we let him go, and it was very sad because I'm he's been with me for 12 years. And Rolo was like this just presence, this just comforting presence, because if you he was an ultimate seeker of comfort and needed to be where you were. So if you were sitting on the couch right beside you, either bodied up next to you, probably head, paw, something on you. So it like weighted blankets are a real thing. He was like a weighted doggo, just ultimate comfort. And then um, when I first got him, I had lived lived in Albany, New York. Bedroom wasn't very big, very cold. And so most people may think that it's bad. But yeah, he did sleep in the bed with me um as a source of warmth, honestly. And I I've really missed that because he would always sleep kind of at the back of my legs. So if I slept on my side, he'd kind of fit in that crook, or he would just be laying right beside me. So it was just that that presence that is really missing.

SPEAKER_03

So funny Rolo story. Yeah when I met Rolo, Janie was setting the conditions for this relationship, right? So she's like, I'm going on a trip. You want to take care of my dog while I'm gone? I'm like, sure, I'll take care of the dog while you're gone. Have to see if you're useful. Yeah, and um, I brought him home that first night, and he jumped on my bed and laid right in the middle of the bed. Like just his bed, just stake it, taking up the whole thing. And I'm like, I was gonna go to bed and I had like this little corner of the bed, and I was like, I I should I move him? But I'm looking at him, I'm like, I guess he's got a little pity in there. I don't know what he kind of dog he is. He looks like he looked like a Rhodesian ridgeback, kind of meets a Labrador. You know, he's just a mutt.

SPEAKER_00

But I was like, He looks a little bit more aggressive than he ever is.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, exactly. And then if he barks, he's like, it, but it's like, no, this dude does not, he ain't about that life at all. So I was like, do I move him? I lasted two days where I was sleeping like like in the little corner of the bed, like this. Like, I don't want to move him because he just took over the whole thing. And in one night, I said, you know what, I can't do this anymore. And I just moved him. He's like, just rolled over. He was playing me. That boy was playing me. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

The funny roller story story that when I very first got him, he was a little bit wild. And he would, he loved to just like single leg, like he'd take one leg and wrap it around and then get the other one and hump you, right?

SPEAKER_03

If he wasn't getting what he wanted.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And so I was walking him when I very first got him, and we were and it was in a crosswalk, cars were stopped letting us cross, and he just sniper attacks me from behind, just like start single legs me and just starts humping my leg in the middle of the street. I was mortified.

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I was like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, if you didn't do what he wanted, he would just grab you, especially to Janey. He wouldn't really do that to me all the time, but he would do it to you. You didn't give him what he wanted. He'd just be like, you know what? Single leg attack.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but he'll be he'll be greatly missed. And so that's why Maggie's with us today because she hasn't been alone since we got her. And so um, we didn't want to leave her alone too long. But I think she'll be okay. She seems to be adapting very well. I wonder if she sensed that he wasn't feeling well, and that made her a little bit more on edge.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, doggies know. Yeah. I um my whole thing on this is like and I think it's like it's made me think about why we're doing what we do, even more so because I don't believe for one second that dogs should be getting cancer. I don't believe that humans should be getting cancer. I don't believe that, you know, three-quarters of the illness that we see in dogs, three quarters, I'm being modest, and humans that we see today, that people are, you know, all the heart disease, all the cancers, and the dogs are the same thing. Everybody's dog dies of cancer. Everybody's dog dies a terrible death. They're all sick as hell at some point, and then you gotta take them in to get put down, and then they kill your doggy in your face, and you gotta go through that, all that stuff. And I don't think any of that is normal. And then you're gonna pay them a crap ton of money to kill your dog, you know what I mean? Or maybe you pay them a crap ton of money to run tests on your dog to then have to kill your dog, you know what I mean? I don't think any of that is normal. I think that's a construct that we've been fooled and cornered into. You know, he was very sick. What I and I I didn't want to put him down. I was praying that it I would just wake up in the morning and he would be gone.

SPEAKER_00

Now, let's you didn't want to put him down, but you recognize it was our best and only choice. No, the because you're making it sound like you didn't want to put him down, but I was like No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if it it took the whole the way the situation's put together, we are left with no choice. Yeah. Because like, and then I'm talking about you and I, and I'm talking about everybody, you know, how many dogs die in their sleep? How many right now? How many dogs? I know two people that had one dog that wasn't that sick, that just passed away hiding in a corner, and then another dog that was very sick, but they found her dead. And you know, she died in the house. Everybody else's dog that I know of, they've had to put the freaking dog down. Yeah, and that's crazy to me that that's not how you're meant to die, bro. You're not meant these dogs, they're all in pain, they all have lumps all over the place, they're all sick as hell, you know, renal failure, cancers of all sorts of types. Why? Why? Same thing for humans. Why? So it just sent me down this spiral, you know, this rabbit hole of when we were kids and dogs would just die. You know, how many whose dog got cancers when you were a kid? How many humans got cancer when you were a kid? Like cancer was this far-off thing that you heard one person, the cousin of you, this distant person that had it, and now it's such a common thing.

SPEAKER_00

It yes, it is becoming more prevalent, but also the testing for it has become more sensitive and more easily accessible. Excuse. So it's not wrong because when we were growing up, there weren't veterinary specialties that I was aware of. Like right now, there's you can have a cardiologist, an ophthalmologist, a dermatologist, an endocrinologist for your dog. Okay. The vet I had growing up was, and a lot of current vets are not large animal vets, they're only small animal vets. The vet we had growing up was uh the large, so he took care of horses, cows, dogs, cats, everything, right? And it was more, and it wasn't like let's do this extensive test. It was like maybe acute surgeries, you know, stuff like that. But it wasn't let's do labs at age 10 to screen for this renal disease because we have this medication for it.

SPEAKER_03

Also, you see, but you see what you're saying, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, no, I see what I'm saying. But I'm saying that there's more testing available because they now they see the money in it, right? Because heart strings for dogs. I'll die on a hill the fact that we take better care of our dogs than we do ourselves or our fellow people. When I was doing smoking cessation education, I got people more with the fact that secondhand smoke will harm your pet. They didn't care at secondhand smoke will harm the people that they live with. And so, you know, pulls out our heartstrings like do this for your pet. And there's many things that can go at reasons to why that is. I won't get into it. But when you have a dog, just let it be a dog. And then now we're not the same thing with people, where it's like, oh, let's keep lowering the LDL threshold, let's keep lowering the blood pressure threshold, let's keep doing this. You can go more and more medications. Now it's you need to put your tick, you need to put your dog on flea tick, heartworm. Well, it used to be topical. Now it's a pill, used to be two pills, now there's a pill with all three of them in there.

SPEAKER_03

And it's just now there's mRNA rabies vaccines.

SPEAKER_00

Now yes, all you know, the vaccines for the dogs, but we never check titers. So why does a dog need a rabies vaccine every year or every three years, depending on the type? But we as humans only need an MMR vaccine once ever. Yeah, the and like why, and I don't know the answer to this because it's never been explained to me, but now I'm starting to question is there a rabies titer that we could check? And I think there is. I've seen some people talk about it.

SPEAKER_03

Well, they they they don't dose it either. They give every your dog weighs 20 pounds or your dog weighs 120, they give it the same dose.

SPEAKER_00

That's yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03

So it it is, and it's on the new rabies vaccine is mRNA based.

SPEAKER_00

So I know I took Rolo off in his final years or final year, and Maggie's not on flea and tick prevention. Um, she's I do a topical spray that's natural. Um, and it's a little bit more inconvenient because I have to do it multiple times a week. But I'm fine with that. Yeah, but it's also doubles as um a spray that prevents bugs from getting in the house. So I just do it out on our deck.

SPEAKER_03

And so Yeah, it doubles. It is, I just I was left with more questions than none. And then to sit there and witness somebody administer a lethal injection, so basically a death sentence to a dog, I, you know, you think I, with my life experience, you think that something like that would register lower on the on the suck, right? Or the or the the traumatic experience. It would just register. It's a dog, right? It's not a human person, it's not an 18-year-old getting blown up, it's not, you know, that's pretty bad, right? But I thought it would register lower, but it registered pretty high. It definitely moved me a lot to see.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta hold it together because I'm not a pretty crier.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it's crazy, right? To see the dog die right there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And it really makes me really angry. Cause obviously where I take this, it's like, why would why is this dog have cancer? Why did my friend's dog have cancer? Why did the neighbor's dog have cancer? Why does that other dog have cancer? Why is everybody putting their freaking dog down? Because their dog are dying, they're they're dying these miserable deaths, right? That's not the way it's supposed to be. Then you start looking, you're like, oh, dogs used to live 20 years. They were they lived longer. We're not saying that doggies are gonna live as long as us, but you know, 20 years was probably back in the day, was normal. 17, 18, 16, depending on the dog. Bigger now, bigger dogs, like a great dane, might last you eight years, you know, and the smaller dogs are maybe you get 12 out of them, and they die a miserable freaking death. And it's crazy, man. And you you have no choice but to go and pay to put them down. To me, that's wild. It's just it's a whole scam that we've been like, it's it's a whole construct that makes a lot of money that we've been forced into. And people just assume now that, oh, you have a dog, eventually you're gonna have to go put it down. That's normal. No, it's not, guys. Like, wake up. And it and then you can extrapolate from there to what's happening to us, the humans. Our lifespans are going down dramatically as well, right? And everybody is getting diagnosed with some crazy illness, and it's there's a lot more going on. That's what I that's what I came away with. I'm like, man, this is messed up, and we really gotta like.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, it's because we took I mean the same thing like we talk about with humans. We take us out of how we're supposed to live, like how we're designed to live, and we inject all these conveniences from you know, that allow us to be more sedentary, that allow food to be easier. So processed foods, but that comes at a cost. We've done the same thing with dogs. You know, are dogs meant to be inside 24-7? No.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and we've created these toxic environments for ourselves that's hurting us. They're smaller, they're more sensitive, so it's really hurting them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And so, you know, this is the first time that no, it's not the first time, but I I always feel a pang of guilt when I live in a place that doesn't have a yard, right? Because the couple places that we've lived in together that have had yards, it's been great, you know, just like let them roam out, you know, and we can have more opportunities to sit outside and do things because dogs are meant to be like outside running around, eating real food. Their food is not that much different than the quality of food for humans.

SPEAKER_03

Point on Rolo. He obviously he ate kibble a long time because we didn't, you know, we weren't paying attention.

SPEAKER_00

Granted, I did give him a better quality one. It was definitely more expensive, but I I ate that cost because I wanted to give him something that had less junk in it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, if guys, if you're feeding your dogs kibble, which most people are, go home, pull the bag up, read the ingredients. Kibble is the dog version of eating frosted flakes every day. Um that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, and it's synthetic vitamins and minerals in there, seed oils, fillers, all sorts of BS in there. So when you start, you read that, you're like, whoa. Starts to make sense why your dog has lumps all over the body all of a sudden. But anyway, um, he last year he he was having these like seizury type things, and we're like, man, that time we knew, we knew, because he was starting to get bumps. We knew the time, you know, he's 13, time's coming. But he eventually stopped eating the kibble. He didn't want to eat it. So we changed him to like real food, right? Chicken, and there's a whole rabbit hole on chicken.

SPEAKER_00

Chicken and sweet potatoes because he had like a 24-hour period where he would not, he could not hold his bowels or have formed stool. And it was, it was a lot. So I just needed to give him something very benign. And he went from not eating to then he seemed to love the chicken thighs and sweet potatoes.

SPEAKER_03

And he came back. Yeah. But that's the whole thing. He came back, he went back to normal. He stopped eating the kibble himself, and then Janie gave him real food, and boom, a couple days later, you have your dog back.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That says a lot, right? You know, and then we kept it feeding him real food, and Maggie, we took Maggie off the kibble and and, you know, real food for her too. And, you know, eventually like, okay, give it the Rolo. There's a whole rabbit hole on eating too much chicken, and a whole rabbit hole on dogs and chicken, period. Um, but it um, we learned that the hard way because he almost got like, after a couple weeks of chicken, he almost got like an allergic reaction to that much chicken. Um yeah, that was crazy too. But we learned the hard way. All this to say, man, the whole kibble thing is crazy to me. And then we wonder why the dogs are sick.

SPEAKER_00

But well, it goes back to what you always say the further we get from our design, the further we get from the design, the sicker we get.

SPEAKER_03

That's the whole point here, right? And the design is not, oh, my dog's 12, I gotta go take him in because he's in miserable pain and somebody's gonna kill him in front of me. That's not the design. That's not how this was meant to work. Oh, I'm 65 years old, I have all sorts of mystery illnesses, so I guess I gotta roll over on 25 medications and wait till my dying day, which is next week. That's not how this was meant to work. I refuse to believe it. You know what I mean? And I think everybody, when you sit there and ponder this, deep in your soul, you know that it's wrong. You know that it's wrong. You know we're messing up. You know it. Just have to think about it for two seconds. A lot of people choose not. To and that's crazy to me too. Oh, you want to cover the sun with your thumb, it doesn't work. It doesn't change that there's a whole freaking construct out there designed to keep us sick, and it's pulled us away from the way that things were designed to work. And if we keep consenting to this, we're just gonna keep getting sicker and sicker and sicker and sicker. That's that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00

I think it really boils down to quality of life, right? Because Rolo obviously didn't have a good quality of life um towards the end, but better than some, right? Because we are still taking care of them. But in regards to humans, because transition to humans, so then we can get on with um what else we were gonna talk about today, but um what quality of life is it if you are on 25 medications? If you if you're you know, so that's one thing I struggle with, like with my patients, specifically um, some of my older patients, where you really have to look at your quality of life. And if you're wheelchair bound, getting pressure ulcers, not able to participate in activities of daily living, but you're just there for who? For what? Right? And I'm not I'm not advocating for euthanasia people, not that's not what I we in Canada. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is I want you to hopefully not get to that point without thinking about it beforehand. So now, us in our 20s, 30s, 40s, right now, you know, 50s, 60s, wherever you're at, what can you do right now to preserve your quality of life? And a lot of that is investing in your health. Because when you get to 80, 90 years old, if you don't have your health, it doesn't matter how much money you have, how many vacations you can go on, what you can buy, because you don't have the ability to participate in any of those things. So health, strength, capability, that's funny because that's all the things that achieve the lifestyle focuses on is what you need to invest in, foster, and grow so that your quality of life is extending. Now, maybe the time is not the goal, shouldn't be time, right? The goal should be quality of life. And that quality of life will likely afford you more time, but quality over quantity.

SPEAKER_03

Well, always but here's the thing I think there's a construct, a design where we could, we should have both. We should have time and quality of life. And when I look at people that are 90 and they're playing golf and stuff, and people are like, oh my God, how does he do it? I'm just like, I actually think that's the norm. I actually think that that is the way that it's meant to work. Yeah, I was just talking us, all of us that are sick at 60 and 50, and we're dragging ourselves to the finish line at 70 something years old and dying some miserable death are out of whack with the way that it's meant to be. And these people that are doing that in their 90s are actually the ones that are living the design.

SPEAKER_00

That's how I that's how I'm I had a conversation with a patient last week who I think she's in her 60s, maybe early 70s. And I was telling her about the importance of strength training. And she's, you know, like a little hesitant, like most women are. Power Athlete just did a great article about how us women have been duped in regards to exercise, what's the most beneficial for us? And so I was telling her, I was like, Yeah, we need to get strong. You know, we need to be strong and capable. And she's a religious person. So I was like, like Moses, who was knocking down doors and taking over lands at the age of 90. Right? Who's 90 and is leading people walking miles a day? Like, we need the that's that's our design.

SPEAKER_03

So here's something too, because you mentioned being on a buttload of medications and you know, quality of life. I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge the other side of the coin too, all these health maxing people. Oh, quality of life is you having to inject yourself with 200 peptides every day from China? From let me say that again. From China? Yeah, nobody knows where the where the origination material came from, from China? Like that that's quality of life too. Oh, I'm I'm on this, I'm on that, I'm on that, I'm health maxing, baby. I think that that is baloney as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, unfortunately, a lot of people, their quality of life, they're attributing that to this is what my labs look like, this is what my body looks like, this is how I look in these clothes, this is the number on the scale. So then doing all that health maxing is their goal, where you really need to do some introspection and look inside and see what are your parameters of quality of life.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I and don't get me wrong, like, listen, if you're 60, 50, whatever, and you need a little HRT, get it. But when we start talking about, like we always go off the deep end, right? We start talking about, oh, I got this peptide for that, that peptide for this, this peptide to keep me lean, this peptide. Bruh, bruh. So now you gotta wake up in the morning and hit yourself with like 10 needles so that you can be healthy, right?

SPEAKER_00

But but but and you gotta record it. And you for your get ready with me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, or post all the vials of stuff that you're on, like so that you can be healthy. Like true health can't be achieved by maximizing what you've been giving and actually paying attention to what you've been given. Like every biohack nonsense that is out there, there's a natural alternative. We've been provided the answers, baby, and now we're just imitating it with a far less effective, way more expensive version of itself, synthetic AF that Lord knows if it's actually making us healthier in the long run. You know, again, peptides from China, what? That's not that's not that's not quality of life either, in my eyes. That's not quality of life to me.

SPEAKER_00

And a lot of times people will try to do that health maxing so much and try to get it all done, it ends up creating more stress. So they end up being unhealthy from it in a different way.

SPEAKER_03

So then so before we get speak, because this is a good segue, but before you know, since we're talking about health maxing um and and injecting yourself with 200 peptides every day so that you can tell people how Huberman-esque you are. Um I want to share my favorite Rolo memory. So we can this episode is in memory of the goodest good boy, Rolo. And then you you can share yours. I have a few moments in my life where I've laughed so hard that I thought I like I was losing control of my body because I was laughing so hard. And one of those moments was provided by Rolo. I remember I came home from work. Um, this was back in New York, and I was gonna walk Rolo, but it was a little drizzle out there, and Rolo had a cape, a red cape that Janie would put on raincoat, little raincoat, and it was like a little Velcro thing that would go under and it had a popped collar, it was hilarious. Probably post a picture on Achieve the Lifestyle. Um, so funny. I thought he looked hilarious, and um, but he hated it. He did not like it, he did not like wearing that coat. So I I set up the the phone and I wish I still had the video because I was he's gonna react to it. And I brought him in in the living room, like Rolo, we gotta go on a walk. And uh I pulled the coat out, and this dude immediately attacked the coat. He's just losing his shit on the coat. It's so funny. And I was laughing so hard because he did not, he's like, like you're putting it on him, and he's like turning around trying to get it. Oh, God, Rolo. Yep, eventually he got old and he just let you put the raincoat on him. But back then he was like, no, I don't want to do this. Other dogs are gonna make fun of me, man. Like, what are you doing to me?

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Oh, Rolo.

SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_03

What's your favorite role?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I have a lot, but one that comes to mind right now is when I very first moved to Dallas, I had this amazing apartment. It was a loft apartment, um, like exposed brick walls. And to get up to the bedroom master bath and closet, you had to go, there's a spiral staircase. And Rolo ran up it when I very first moved in. And my friend Ann was with me because she helped me move. And but then he couldn't get down because he was like, he looked at the spiral staircase and he was like, No, he just stood up there frozen. So I had to carry him. No, he's 65, 70 pounds at this point. So I carry him, right? Like a baby. And so his butt is kind of like on my stomach, and his his back is along my arm, and I'm carrying him like this. And then I get down to the bottom of the stair and I just feel wetness. I was like, he peed on me because he was so scared. So the whole time you were there, you had to carry him down that no, he eventually well, sometimes I did, but he eventually started going down on this.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was just the very first time. But yeah, he was he moved to, so I got him in New York, he moved to Dallas with me. I didn't know anybody, so he was like my way just to get out and explore the neighborhood. He moved down here to Florida with me where I didn't know anybody but you, but you were working your butt off. And so, you know, he's been my my buddy.

SPEAKER_03

He did the move from Texas back to New York, yeah. Oh, Rolo. R.I.P. to Rolo. Doggy heaven.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Dan wanted to end the episode talking about Rolo. I was like, no, we need to start it. We're not gonna be like, all right, and to wrap it up, let's talk about dogs dying.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So no, I want you to I want you to sad stuff's over. Hopefully.

SPEAKER_03

I want you to think about what I just said too. Because I really think about what's happening. Really sit there and think about it and get uncomfortable for a second about what's happening to doggies, because it's happening to us. The whole thing messed up, but that's why pharmaphobic exists. Hopefully, to grab you by the shoulders and tell you to wake up. Okay. Anyway, moving on. We got some health news for you. We're talking about injecting yourself with 200 peptides so that you can health max it out. Okay. Uh, this one's near and dear to me because it's about Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_01

Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. For those of y'all that didn't know, I was born and raised on the island of Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_00

How do you how do you say it?

SPEAKER_03

Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_00

There you go.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so born and raised, 23 years of my life spent in Puerto Rico before I left for the army. My family, my parents still lived there, grandparents, the remaining ones, um, still there. So yeah. Puerto Rico last year, and I I, you know, if my fellow Puerto Ricans that listen to this, um, we like Puerto Rico always, you know, they we gotta go hard on stuff, right? And become top dog in stuff that unfortunately is not great, right? You know, like our top superstar right now that everybody recognizes for is probably one of my least favorite uh musical artists that has ever come out of the island. Bed Booney. Bad Booney, right? Especially the version that is in circulation now, whereas he used to be more of a street actual rapper kind of guy. Now he's just this like weird pop gender fluid type situation that it confuses the hell out of me. I understand he's past my generation. I'm 43 years old. I was in my mid-30s when I actually saw, oh, who is this guy? You know, but he was very different to what he is now. And I I that's what we're known for. Like that in most countries. And I can't stand it because I think it's literally one of the least talented people to come out of the island. Anyway, past that. Um you know, at one point we had the highest crime rate in the union, past Baltimore. I remember when that headline came out, I was still living in Puerto Rico. I was like, wow, this is great. People know our name because we have the most crime in the union. That is crazy. Well, now we had the highest growth in prescriptions for GLP ones year over year. So Puerto Rico did a 74% increase from one year to the next in GLP prescriptions. That is wild stat, right? So the population of Puerto Rico is about three and a half million people. When I was growing up, it was more like four and a half million people. A lot of, you know, after the hurricane of 2017 and the crash of 2008 and all that stuff, a lot of people have left the island and now they're in Orlando, Florida, it seems. Yeah, they're in Orlando, Florida right now. Um, or Fort Worth, actually, when I was living there, I was like seeing a lot of Puerto Ricans coming in because I was in Fort Worth right around the time that that hurricane happened. Um, anyway, they supposedly have uh 300k diabetics out of a population of three and a half million. So that's about 10% of the population are diagnosed diabetics. That's not counting the ones that are roaming around pre-diabetic that are, you know, undiagnosed currently. So that that's pretty, that's a lot of people that are that are diabetics. And to the point, um, Eli Lilly just saw a market opportunity, right? And they're when I was growing up, Puerto Rico used to have all the pharmaceutical industry manufacturing plants were in Puerto Rico for a reason. Yeah. Now they're in India, you know, which it gave a lot of jobs like well-paying, you know, chemistry jobs and manufacturing jobs to the islanders, right? And then this governor kind of killed that initiative because he wanted Puerto Rico to become a state. It was a whole mess. And, you know, states couldn't have those tax incentives for companies. So and then a lot of them left. And this is where the China-India outsourcing thing started, you know, which in my opinion, if we're going to manufacture pharmaceuticals and millions of people in this country are gonna rely on them, they should be made in this side of the world. They should be made on American soil, they should be made on in countries that we are close to. If we really are that dependent on that soil.

SPEAKER_00

Then they'd have to hold it to a higher standard.

SPEAKER_03

Well, there's that part. And and you know what? We are the pharmaphobic podcast. If the whole pharmaceutical industry collapsed, I wouldn't care. Like, in my opinion, they should be making anesthesia, they should be making penicillin, they should be making uh a couple of the antibiotics, like stuff that actually works in acute situations that we need regularly. But things like statins, you know, a lot of these diabetic medications, they shouldn't be at the level of usage that they are because we should have a healthier population. So the pharmaceutical industry, instead of being a trillion dollar industry, might be a couple of billion-dollar industry, right? That's my opinion, right? I'd like that they have so many products that are complete BS, just side effects that put you in this treadmill of needing 25 other products to live. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Getting back to this, Eli Lilly is in reinvesting in the island now and expanding their plant in Puerto Rico. They're putting in a billion and some change to expand that operation. Now, that operation is gonna produce uh oral GLPs because that's that's the next wave, is you know, there's already been an oral GLP.

SPEAKER_00

There's an oral GLP before any uh um injectable run one uh libelsis, I think is what it is. Um it's just obviously if the injections have GI side effects, what do you think the pill of a GLP is gonna have?

SPEAKER_03

And it's gonna go through your liver and all that stuff. So now you have Wagovi pill, they're going hard on that one. Um, and then um Manjaro pill version, what are what is it? Or for glipron. So they're yeah, that's a big old word. Or for griplon. I haven't looked at the brand. Or for glipron. That belongs in your body, guys. Let me see. Right there. That belongs in your body.

SPEAKER_00

That's not, that's gonna be a different medication.

SPEAKER_03

Well, but it's Eli Lilly makes it.

SPEAKER_00

That's their that's gonna be the Because Monjaro's trzepatide, so that's not a brand name, though.

SPEAKER_03

That is gonna be their oral GLP. Okay, whatever their oral version of Monjaro, that's it. Um, so it um they're putting down a billion and some change in the island to expand this plant. That plant's also gonna make uh cancer drugs and all sorts of, you know, good business, baby. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Weight loss and cancer, good business. Positive creates job opportunities for people.

SPEAKER_03

Actually, it's oh no, no. Actually, it's not. Actually, it's not. This is this is what's happening with a lot of this technological stuff. Um, you know, the AI data centers, they come in saying that they're gonna create, oh, it's gonna create 10,000 jobs. You got the jobs that are gonna build it, but then when it when all that stuff is done, temporary jobs, the actual jobs that it creates is not that many. Like the data centers are projected to create maybe 50 jobs. This thing's projected to create maybe 100 jobs. A billion and some change investment for 100 jobs because everything's automated and all this stuff, but it's gonna be like some higher tech manufacturing type jobs. Hey, listen, 100 jobs is 100 jobs. That's a hundred people that that, you know, can live better lives and all that stuff. And like I was saying, back in the day when I was growing up, um, in like early 90s, late 80s, you know, all these pharmaceutical companies had their plants in Puerto Rico and it created a lot of jobs for Puerto Ricans. And that's fine, right? Um this, you know, we can debate the merits of pharmaceutical industry or whatever, but the jobs that were created for the people, that's great. And here, a hundred jobs, billion dollars and some change to expand the plant, they're probably gonna make a gazillion, you know, multiple billions off of what it comes out of that plant, um, and create a hundred jobs there locally, supposedly a thousand in buildings. Now, I you know, the the economic situation of Puerto Rico is kind of crazy, right? I don't know how they do it. And me and my friends that don't live in Puerto Rico anymore, we always wonder about this. Because I'll go to Puerto Rico and see all these Lambos and you know, like all this stuff that's in there, like expensive cars and all this stuff. And I'm like, are those you know, YouTubers and stuff that moved? Because a lot of YouTubers, you know, Logan Paul and a lot of these people, they they went to the island and there's a whole debate there of people coming to Puerto Rico as a tax haven, um, you know, Wall Street types, cryptocurrency billionaire types, and they've created these havens in parts of the island where things are really expensive because these people are loaded, right? Um so I'm like, is it are these cars that I'm seeing them or are these Puerto Ricans that are making that kind of coin? I don't know, right? We we've had a knack, a propensity for appearances in Puerto Rico, and people tend to live beyond their means a lot, right? Just to appear the opulence and that sort of thing. I don't know. I I'm I'm not, you know, I'm I'm speculating here as somebody who grew up in the island. But I'll you know, being on GLP is not cheap. And I'll tell you more you know, there's the tax burden in Puerto Rico is pretty big. Like sales tax is like 11% in Puerto Rico. You know, it the local tax is crazy. The tax game in Puerto Rico is crazy. The amount of money that they take from you. Um I don't know how people 74% increase in GLPs. I don't I don't know if that's the prescribers found a way to like get it covered, or if people are shelling out the coin for the GLPs. I'm just shocked that it's that many people jumping on this stuff. It's crazy, right? Um the biggest jump in the union. I mean, you you know, like a place like Boca, like here where we're at, wouldn't surprise me because people here have a lot of disposable income. We live in a like this zip code is crazy with wealthy people. You know, if San Diego or New York City, even, or you know, here in Boca, like I saw, like, oh yeah, this sharp increase in the consumption. Like, yeah, people have the money to pay for it. But Puerto Rico, I'm I'm I'm flabbergasted, right? Um, now it just pointed me to the observation that I make, and I don't know what your impression as somebody who's been to Puerto Rico, you weren't raised there, but I our culture is not one of necessarily taking care of yourself. Um, Puerto Rico has a big drinking culture. I like even more so than a lot of countries. Um I'm trying to think of other cultures that drink like us, maybe the Irish, um, maybe the Mexicans. Uh because not even not even Americans like are as drinky as Puerto Rico. Um the food, which is funny because uh I had a client a couple years ago give me like a diaspora cooking book, like a Puerto Rican cooking book, and I started thumbing through it, and I was looking at the recipes, and then it hit me. Because all this time that I've been out of the island, I've just been like, yo, our food is unhealthy as hell. So much fried food, so much, and then it hit me when I was looking through it. I'm like, oh wait, these are like old-time recipes. They're not, she's not using mozzola cooking oil, she's not using vegetable oil to make her rice and to fry her little uh plantains and stuff. She's using lard, like pig fat and beef fat. And I'm just like, oh my god. We switched up our entire way of cooking. And then I had a friend send me a video of somebody making carne frita, which is fried pork chunks, the old-fashioned way over an open flame in a big old cauldron. And they basically set it in there at low heat to where the pig chunks render the fat, and then eventually it starts frying it. So they didn't add anything to it. They didn't add any frying oil, none of it.

SPEAKER_00

So, how long did that take?

SPEAKER_03

It took a little bit. Yeah, because you got to slow cook it for it to render the fat in water, and then you turn up the heat and it starts frying in its own fat. Yeah. But, you know, it just hit me that it's like, yo, we we switched up the way we cook for this highly industrial ingredients. You know, all this stuff has seed oils in it. We fry everything in this weird vegetable oil. And then you combine that with heavy drinking, you combine that, you know, with uh the way we eat in Puerto Rico, which is something that's funny because I got to talk to my parents about changing how they eat because their blood sugars are like creeping up, right? It's like that. When you when you get a plate, right? I want you to, you know, take the meat, you know, you get your little churrasco, your little flank steak, right? You know, you get your little bite, right? You get your little steak, you know what I'm saying? You got that, you put that on the plate. Now, grandma would have come through with a big old spoon of rice and giving you two of those. Pow, pow. You got a mountain of rice in there, and uh, the rice is cooked in vegetable oil, of course. So it's really fatty. Um, and then she's gonna throw the boom two big old cups of beans on top of that. Then you're gonna put a roll of bread next to that, and then you're gonna get some plantains on the side with that, right? So you see what I did there with my plate? It's super carb-heavy, carb-loaded, seed oil cooked type of thing, and then a little bit of meat on the side. So I was like, tell him I was like, Dad, you gotta pick one. Okay, we're gonna do rice and beans. Okay, there's no rolls and no plantains to be had. Now, me, I would just take the rice and beans out and I would go for the plantains. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? The plantains.

SPEAKER_00

Says the guy who gets rice and beans and then a side of my fungo.

SPEAKER_03

Whenever I have Puerto Rican food, yes, I'm gonna go hard. But anyway. Um, the uh so the way we eat is kind of messed up, right? It's unbalanced. Too many carbs on the plate. Then the physical activity levels, we are not, you know, and this is, I guess this is true of all islanders, because if I heard uh James Mackey. Jimmy Mackey talking about it. He's from the Bahamas, he has a really big gym in the Bahamas, um, and a very successful gym in the Bahamas, which he was explaining how hard it is to run a successful physical activity place in an island. And he's like, yo, they like we're not known for wanting to work out and get after. It's like island time. We're chilling, right? And I the Puerto Ricans are the same way. We like to hang out and play dominoes and have a couple beers, you know, that's and that's the natural setting, right? Going to the gym and stuff, which by the way, there's a rising, I gotta acknowledge that surprise still surprises me whenever I go. There's a rising fitness culture in Puerto Rico that's phenomenal, right? Running clubs, those were around, but now they're getting really big. Um, highroxy type people CrossFit blew up for a little bit there in Puerto Rico, and it's still going kind of hard. Um yeah, now they have like, you know, the muscle heads are like like old school, like bodybuilder types, and there's like these boutique bodybuilding gyms popping up, and that's great. I love it, I love it, but it's not enough to counteract the what we're our setting, right? So physical activity aside from you know, toiling on the mountain for people from the countryside is not that great. Um and here we are shelling out money that we may or may not have for GLPs to be the highest consumer of GLPs. Um what do you make of that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think it's the same as anywhere where you know people will, you know, if they just look at me very superficially, they'll be like, you're anti-GLP. And it's like not in all settings, right? I'm anti putting a ton of money into pharmaceuticals and ignoring the quality of our food, proper education on actual beneficial exercise for the long term and promoting that, right? Like we talked about China and how they're instilling in like elementary school nutrition and um exercise. Now, granted, you know, they're gonna control what type of nutrition, what type of exercise, right? And so that's the hardest thing most people have is they're like, I don't know what to eat, I don't know what type of exercise to do because you're just bombarded with do this, do this, do this. And so the fact that Puerto Rico is known for having drugs tested on them just makes me suspicious for the uh the push of a drug in Puerto Rico in any form. Yeah, contraceptive if people agent orange, agent orange, oral contraceptive pills, pills, yep, and I think some vaccines were tested in Puerto Rico and not always with informed consent.

SPEAKER_02

Nope.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. And so what's why is wire GLP so readily available to Puerto Ricans? To me, it's like are they taking advantage of their sort of easy lifestyle, but their propensity to want to look a certain way. Right. And so instead of educating people on okay, like you can look this way, and also you can do strength training and eat a nutritious diet, and you'll have the aesthetics, but also your health will improve. Okay. People will be like, well, well, GLPs will improve health. Sure, they will because they help with insulin sensitivity, they help with inflammation. I'm not gonna argue that, but so can taking care of yourself. Now, some people are so far gone that they need the assistance of GLPs. Again, I'm not gonna argue that. That's true. People with BMIs of 60 and 70. I'll take all the risks of a GLP because the risk of your weight at that point is much greater. Now, with the GLPs, they inject themselves and then their labs look better. They may feel better, they may, their body weight will come down, but what we're chasing a number on the scale, we're chasing lab values. Again, going back, what's your quality of life? Because a lot of people on GLPs, they are they feel tired, they feel weak, they have lack of motivation to participate in all um activities, you know, nausea, like the nausea, GI distress. Um, there was a guy on Mind Pump who tested the GLPs, and he's like, I only had enough energy to either play with my kids or go to the gym. I couldn't, you know, do both. And so if we're telling go to the gym, go to the gym, now there's no quality time with the kids. Well, if you spend quality time with your kids, you have no energy to go to the gym, where you need to have a balance. Yeah, it's not either or. And so the other thing with GLPs, excuse me, is that with the lack of education on lifestyle, I've seen two, two separate people who have filled out new patient packets and on their diet, because you say, what type of diet do you follow? Or what what's your like, yeah, do you follow any special diet, right? And they'll mark yes. And two people have put GLPs. Meaning the like zip bound or wagovi is the diet they follow. That's not a diet, my friend. Okay. And to me, that just is I'm just gonna assume you don't eat enough or you eat improperly.

SPEAKER_03

Now, or you've never addressed it, period, and now you don't eat, so you don't have to do that.

SPEAKER_00

And so many people I've talked to have already been prescribed GLPs. And I'm like, hey, have you tracked your total calorie intake prior to going on the GLP? Do you know what your protein intake versus carb versus fat intake is? No, never addressed it. I was just put on the GLP.

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Cool.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, because that's helpful. Because the majority of people are not eating a sufficient amount, especially women, but they're hat, they're weight loss resistant because they're not fueling their body efficiently. When we had Jose on here, he explained cutting or cutting weight, losing weight is a metabolically active process. You need energy to lose weight, you need calories to lose weight. Because most people aren't a committed anorexic. Okay, because that's severe deprivation. Your body starts wasting away. A lot of people will restrict, binge, restrict, binge, restrict, binge. And you become weight loss resistant because you're constantly fighting. And then, like, I have food noise. No crap, because you're not fueling yourself efficiently. Yes, you would you will have food noise. And then they get on the GLP, but they had no problem restricting their calories. Okay. And so now we have to be careful. They get put on a GLP, they're not doing strength training, progressive strength training that actually challenged the muscles to adapt to either maintain or grow.

SPEAKER_03

Not Pilates.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And now we're increasing risks of osteoporosis. Now we're increasing risks of we're accelerating sarcopenia. Now we're increasing risk of dementia or at least cognitive deficit. Maybe it's not classic dementia, but you deprive yourself enough, your brain, brain fog, confusion, slowing down, speech is slower, more withdrawn. And so my problem with the GLPs, and you could say this with all pharmaceutical drugs, because I can even say it with statins. People don't change their diet, but hey, taking a statin, my LDL is low, but I'm hitting up McDonald's and Cheetos every day.

SPEAKER_03

Diabetics on whatever medication, they're still eating them.

SPEAKER_00

So we're just giving people excuses to not change their lifestyle and saying, you know, it's America, do what you want. Freedom, baby. Because your freedom to make bad choices and not care about your health is really lining the pockets of a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03

So it's in their best interest to keep you exactly in that state. To the tune of my company's worth a trillion dollars now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. You know, I I uh And so I, you know, I I told a I was just speaking with somebody yesterday because he he knows that I was seen and he's working to get off some medications, and he's like, I know you want me to get off all my meds because he knows we have this podcast. I was like, listen, I know you have, I know you know that I have a pharmaphobic podcast. He's like, I know. And I was like, it's not that I'm anti-medication. Dan, maybe. Oh yeah. Me, no. My goal is I understand some people are in a position where they've either been on medications or they just for whatever reason they're on medications. And my goal for them is let's decrease, let's get you off of it, sure, if we can safely, but let's get you on the least effective dose. Even if your dose doesn't change, but we've improved your quality of life while you're on that medication and you're doing other things and not only relying on the medication to help you, that's a win. And so that's my goal for people. Now I am in the position that I'm in with my work, is where I see a lot of people who are given GLPs inappropriately because they're not doing the lifestyle. Now, you out there may be you have like we have a lot of people who are active in our lives, right? And maybe some are on GLPs, but they're really active and they're doing all the quote unquote right things. You know, it's America, it's your choice. You have autonomy over your body, do what you want. But I see people seeking help from the medical system that's not that's supposed to help them with health. And it's like not addressing their health at all, not addressing their nutrition, their lifestyle, their anything, but here's a prescription. And that's a huge disservice that unfortunately the majority of us are like, that's fine. That's that's what it is. I have a med problem solved. Bing, bing, boom.

SPEAKER_03

And and again, going back to the to the peptide talk, because I'm extrapolating this, I'm I'm applying this to all the peptide situation, the peptide madness that is going on right now. Some of them may be useful, some of them may not be. You know, I was reading this thing talking about your body having receptors for some of this stuff that it there's no marked receptors for things like BPC 157 or TB500, but there are marked receptors for GLPs.

SPEAKER_00

Because we naturally produce it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because we naturally produce GLPs.

SPEAKER_00

And how many people who are put on a GLP understand that their body naturally produces GLP and how to promote it?

SPEAKER_03

They think it's a miracle drug that somebody made in a lab, you they don't understand that your body actually produces GLP. Okay, so there's that conversation, but I go back to it. The health maxing guys that you're hitting yourself with 25 freaking injections every day to be quote unquote healthy, you know, we've replaced now the these pharmaceutical jackrabbits. They know, they know what they know what's up, and they're gonna get in the game, right? We replaced, hey, I'm gonna put you on this medication with no, no, no, I'm gonna give you this peptide, bruh. Get on the peptide, son. So now you need this peptide for that, this peptide for that, that peptide for that. No, no, no, no, no. Don't worry about your food. Just hit yourself with the peptide, bro. You know what I mean? I it's it's the okey doke is changing flavors, but it's still a okie doke.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And that's why, like, I as far as we're concerned, people ask us about the peptides, and listen, if I get hurt, you know, better. I'm gonna give that BPC 157 a try. Oh, ho ho, it's happening. But you're not I'm not gonna live on BPC 157.

SPEAKER_00

And I was just having this conversation with a friend.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not gonna opt out of physical therapy because I'm on BPC 157. Yes. You know what I mean? Like that's the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

That that's you're not gonna lay on the couch and take BPC 157 and say, work drugs.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you're gonna actively be rehabbing, trying, and it's going to be a tool that assists you. It's not your only saving grace.

SPEAKER_03

Same way that, you know, with when it comes to GLPs, it's like, oh, I got in one hand. Uh, eat steak, get some sun, go on a walk, lift some weight, hang out with people that are constructive to me, um, and all these things that get some better sleep, and all these things that are actually going to improve the quality of my life for the long term, right? With no side effects, no side effects, except getting jacked and beautiful and living in peace, right? And then I have the synthetic stuff on the other hand, and it's like instant gratification shortcut comes with side effects and a bunch of risk and you know, stuff that's made in China. And yeah, give me that one. And I'm not gonna do any of this.

SPEAKER_00

No, I've also noticed that people who take better care of themselves, medications when needed, are more effective.

SPEAKER_03

No diggity. That goes back to the Huberman. Better living through chemistry still requires better living.

SPEAKER_00

Because I I have a friend who's been dealing with some some like long chronic pain, like not chronic, subacute pain and inflammation. And she took medication, she like finally broke down because she like dropped 3K in physical therapy, massage, everything. Like, she's just like it's not effective, so it's not working completely. And after one day, she's like, Oh, I feel so much better. I know people who go on medications and they're like, it's not doing anything, it's not doing anything because you're not taking care of yourself. It's wild.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you have to set the foundation. Even if you do need to rely on medications, you need to set an environment for that medication to work. If you're treating your body like trash, then that medication has to like fight through a whole like frontline army of like throwaway soldiers just to get to the main thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I guys, the okie doke is upon us yet again. Puerto Rico, the okie doke is upon you big time with this stuff. Um, I like I said, and and you know, an area that economically is just not doing that great, but we're spending money on GLPs like that, and you know, the pharmaceutical industry is is sees such an opportunity that it's willing to invest a billion dollars on a project on the island, that stuff just raises concern. You know what I mean? Um, I mean, the hundred people that get jobs, they and usually there's overestimation, right? Oh, we're gonna create a hundred jobs, then it's more like 50.

SPEAKER_00

How many people are being brought in to do those jobs and not?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's the other one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the other one. They could bring in the people to do the jobs. Um I I pray for the day that there's a culture shift here and there, um, where we like start understanding and we reconnect with the way things were, where people move more. You know, I hope the fitness industry bug that that is that underground movement that I see in Puerto Rico, where people are starting to go to gyms and gyms are popping up and working out and and all that sort of stuff, that it really takes hold with the younger generation and people just the overall population becomes healthier. And I also, you know, there's there has to be some reconnection with the way that things used to be. You know, your grandmama, now if you're too young, maybe not, but your great grandmother was not cooking with that Mazzola BS. Get that, hey, listen, if you don't live at home anymore, you live in the States. Yeah, we can talk about go when you go to your mama's house, like I'm not. I'm not talking about they have like little, it's the thing, right? They buy it by the because they put it in everything. For the big tub of Crisco. Yeah, they put it in everything. Get that crap out of the house. Get that, get, get that crap out of it. Like, mama, get on the great grandmama plan, okay? Let's get this beef fat and this pig lard, because that was the stuff, right? That actually was, and it makes the food taste better. That's the other one, but whatever. I digress. Listen, at the end of the day, we're not running over. I don't care how much money you spend on GLPs, you're not running away from the issue. You're not getting away from the issue.

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You're not getting away kicking the can down the road.

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You're kicking the can down the road.

SPEAKER_00

It's gonna come up in osteoporosis. So, like I've said before, y'all getting those GLPs, go ahead and sign up for that Fossamax. All right, I'm gonna need it.

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I always go the Thanos meme. You know, he's like, where did that lead you? Right back to me. Thanos is uh protein, lifting weights, getting outside, uh fostering positive social connections and getting some daggone sleep. That's Thanos. It's like, where'd that lead you? All these peptides, all this injecting yourself with this and that for health maxing. Where'd it lead you? Right back to me, baby. Eat well and take care of yourself. With that in mind, that's an episode. Rolo, you know, pour out a little bit of for Rolo, the the fallen homies. You know what I mean? Um, anything you want to add?

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No.

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Okay. Where can they find us?

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Our website is achieved the lifestyle.com. Um, our email is info at achieve the lifestyle.com, but we're probably most active on Instagram at Achieve the Lifestyle.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Hit us up because you go down in the DM if you have any questions, any topics that you want us to address or anything of the sort. And with that in mind, we are out. I need you to uh hug your doggies because they funny. Thank God for the doggies, they funny. Um, and I also need you to quit it with this health maxing BS. The true health maxing is not in a bottle or a vial or a whatever pill thing. It's not even in a supplement cabinet, for heaven's sake. Okay, so keep that in mind. And I need you to stay pharma free, babe. We have thanks for listening to the pharmaphobic podcast. If you found this conversation interesting, which I know you did, make sure to follow us on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. And also make sure to check us out on Instagram at Achieve the Lifestyle. And if you're interested in pursuing a stronger, healthier, more capable version of yourself, check out our website at achievethlifestyle.com.

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