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Prometheus: Bezos, AI, and the Rise of the Physical Economy
Jeff Bezos is officially back in an operational role — and he’s betting billions on a new AI venture called Project Prometheus. But this isn’t another chatbot startup. This is AI aimed squarely at the physical economy: manufacturing, materials, engineering, aerospace, supply chain, and the real-world systems that make global industries run.
In this episode, Gary and Scott break down:
• What Project Prometheus is — and what we actually know so far
• Why it’s attracting elite talent from OpenAI, DeepMind, and Meta
• The meaning of “AI for the physical economy,” explained in simple terms
• How Bezos and co-leader Vik Bajaj are positioning this as a multi-decade moonshot
• The emerging shift from digital AI to AI that designs, builds, and optimizes physical systems
• Potential applications: factories that self-optimize, AI-designed materials, robotic labs, new aerospace components, and more
• The profound implications for business leaders across manufacturing, engineering, logistics, and operations
• The risks, unknowns, and why Prometheus could reshape competitive advantage for entire industries
This is one of the clearest signals yet that AI is moving beyond screens and into the world of atoms. If you’re a CIO, COO, CTO, or executive responsible for operations or innovation, this episode will give you a front-row view into the next wave of AI transformation — and what you should be watching now.
Listen in and learn why the future of AI won’t just be about thinking… it’ll be about building.
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00:57
Welcome back to the Macro AI podcast. Thanks again to all our listeners for listening to the show and providing feedback. I'm Gary Sloper. And I'm Scott Bryan. And today we're diving into what we thought was a really intriguing story. uh Jeff Bezos is stepping back into an operational role to help lead a brand new AI venture called Project Prometheus. Yeah.
01:27
It's his first operational role since leaving Amazon in 2021. I mean, that alone makes this worth paying attention to. But what really makes Prometheus fascinating is its mission. They're not building another chat bot or wrapping some technologies, you know, claiming that there's AI associated with it. They're really trying to bring artificial intelligence into the physical economy. Yeah. And I think that's the key. That's the phrase. That's everything. uh Physical economy.
01:56
AI has mostly lived in the digital world. So text, images, code, internet data, but Prometheus is aiming at the world of physical production, engineering, uh materials and manufacturing. And if they succeed, this has enormous implications for global industries and for really every business leader that's listening today. Yeah, exactly. mean, kind of what we know about Project Prometheus,
02:24
ah Really the headline is the venture reportedly raised about 6.2 billion. That's with a B, not with an M. So 6.2 billion. That's a huge raise. And that puts it in the same league as some of the biggest AI companies on the planet. And they're only just starting. They've already hired close to a hundred people for this organization, including researchers from OpenAI, DeepMind and Meta, for example.
02:51
Yeah. And that's really kind of an unusually strong leadership team right out of the gate. uh then obviously Bezos brings the experience of scaling Amazon, building Blue Origin and running some of the largest physical operations on earth. His co-founder ah for Project Prometheus is Vic Bejaj and he has deep scientific and computational roots. ah So he was at Google X, Verily, Foresight Labs.
03:20
And he's really known for his ability to drive breakthrough research and development. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's a solid leader right there. ah Prometheus is still operating in stealth mode. Uh, if you've followed this at all. So we don't have a full product roadmap or even a public headquarters where they're located. So, uh, it's still kind of under wraps, but what we do know is the thesis. So.
03:44
artificial intelligence that works directly on physical problems. So think of things such as engineering, manufacturing, aerospace, hardware, materials, science, not just digital information, which we've talked about here on the show and also just what you see in the industry. Yeah. And that's what makes Prometheus different. As we noted, it's a, they're trying to build AI that can actually do things in the real world. So, you know, things like, uh, designing components, optimizing manufacturing processes.
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uh maybe even run robotic labs on its own. Yeah, yeah, that's a point. And I think here for you all listening, know, what is artificial intelligence for the physical economy really mean? So we kind of slow down and make this crystal clear because it's the heart of today's story. When people talk about AI today, they usually mean language models. So think of chat, GPT, Claude, Gemini, they get a lot of press, a lot of usage. uh
04:44
you know, globally, ah or even things like image generators or code assistance. All of that is part of the digital economy. It's the world of screens, content, software, e-commerce, marketing, for example. That's what you think of when it comes down to the digital AI. Yeah. But that entire digital economy is only about 15 % of global GDP. The other 85 % is physical and it's the world of uh
05:13
know, atoms, it's factory, supply chains, energy systems, transportation, aerospace, we noted, uh construction, and all the materials used to build all those things in the rest of the economy. Yeah, no doubt. And here's the challenge. AI has had a very hard time entering that physical world. ah And really because unlike digital AI, which trains on texts from the internet, for example, AI for the physical world needs entirely different data.
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So think of things such as lab experiments, sensor telemetry, real world physics, manufacturing failure data, robotics tests, material samples, all of that really is required for more of this physical environment. So it takes a lot more time and additional resources to make that happen. Yeah. And that data is expensive. It's a, it's really slowly generated. It's very scarce.
06:13
So you can scrape the internet for text, but you can't scrape the internet for uh something like, how does titanium behave at 3000 degrees in a hypersonic airflow? Or how new battery chemistry degrades after 4,000 charge cycles. So that's the data. That's why the physical economy has been stuck with slow, costly R &D cycles. Sounds like you've made a couple of inquiries on those specific questions.
06:43
ah You know, Prometheus is trying to do here is build the infrastructure that gives AI the ability to understand and eventually manipulate physical reality. That means running enormous simulations, building extremely capable digital twins. We talked about digital twins on some prior episodes and really creating a robotic laboratory where AI can run experiments continuously.
07:11
So this is a whole new frontier and it's interesting that, that Bezos is going after this. Yeah. And I think this is the leap from AI that thinks to AI that builds. And once AI starts building things, like in the real world, from materials to motors and aircraft components, the pace of physical innovation radically accelerates. And also the pace of
07:39
uh Data that's available for other AI startups etc. Also becomes more available. We talked about data commons in a previous episode Hmm. Yeah, that's good pointer. I remember that episode well And so you're probably wondering, know, why is Bezos doing this? He's he's made quite a bit of money and he's successful in a lot of other projects But if you think about him, he's uniquely suited for this play everything he's built has involved mass massive physical infrastructure
08:08
So think about the heritage of Amazon, know, large fulfillment centers, logistics networks, the AWS data center empire and, and blue origins aerospace systems. So he's, he's kind of diversified there. So he's always been obsessed with the physical side of technology. Yeah. Yeah. And he's always played long games. took years to become profitable, but it became one the largest companies on earth because he was willing to invest ahead of the curve. And, and, um,
08:37
You know, Blue Origin also similar, but Prometheus looks like another version of that type of thinking. He sees something that just others aren't moving fast enough on. And he thinks he can capitalize on that and probably uh make an impact on humanity. Yeah, that's a good point. And frankly, he has the capital and the patience to take on a project that might take, you know, five, 10 years to mature. That's something most startups can't dream of, especially if they've got some
09:05
know, particular investors involved. So Prometheus may be the most Bezos like thing he's done since Blue Origin. ah So it'll be interesting to watch. Yeah. So you want to, I think let's just take a, take a minute to speculate on what they might actually be building. I think based on the talent that they're hiring, the statements that they've made, one possibility is that Prometheus becomes an engine for designing advanced hardware components. um
09:35
things like new aerospace parts, electric motors, batteries, alloys, semiconductor structures or lightweight materials that are optimized by AI. Yeah. Yeah. Those are, those are all areas that are ripe for the picking, think. And another possibility I was thinking about is, that they're also targeting, they could be targeting factories themselves. So if you think about factories creating AI systems that. It dramatically compressed production timeline.
10:04
Imagine a factory where, you know, the workflow adapts in real time. You have quality control happening autonomously and the entire system is optimized by AI that understands the physics of every step to produce the product, get it out the door. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, uh, that's also a world where Prometheus becomes, you know, the new global standard for industrial digital twins. So simulations that are so detailed that they can predict how, uh
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jet engine will behave before any metal is cut. that kind of platform would disrupt, you know, big ones, big guys like Siemens, Dassault, Autodesk, the giants of engineering software. Yeah. And, you know, to that point, I mean, think about, there's really an interesting angle here. If you think of Blue Origin, Prometheus could become the research and development supercharger for his aerospace ambitions. So designing materials for space manufacturing,
11:03
components for rockets, even automating parts of spacecraft construction. So that whole workflow, ah Blue Origin could be the initial guinea pig for that and then help leapfrog out into the commercial space. Yeah, 100%. So his own projects, but also that commercial opportunity as lots of manufacturing greenfield is popping up in the United States and probably more to come.
11:29
But we don't know yet. I think all these possibilities point to one common theme that AI isn't just generating text or images. It's really beginning to shape the physical world and it's happening now and this type of investment and this brain power is a good example that it's beginning. Yeah. I think any of the business leaders listening today, they're probably asking, what does this mean for my business or my competitors?
11:57
And I think this is where the rubber meets the road for executives. If AI starts penetrating the physical economy at scale, the first thing that changes is operations. So everything from supply chains to quality control become more predictive or automated and more responsive. And so while you may not be a manufacturing organization, you may rely heavily on those components. So that could invariably change how you conduct business as well. Yeah. 100%.
12:27
And because of that, I think product cycles will shrink. So companies that used to spend 18 months designing a product might find themselves competing with firms who can design, simulate, test, and prototype in a matter of weeks. And speed becomes a defining competitive advantage. Yeah, yeah, that's your spot on there. think really changes how a lot of these companies...
12:52
you know, really need to design and build their moats around their business. In the digital world, the moat was data and algorithms. In the physical world, the moat becomes, you know, AI enhanced manufacturing processes, uh proprietary experiment data, better materials, faster production. These are all advantages that are very hard to copy and something that business leaders will need to pay attention to. Exactly. And then it also changes the talent equation. So suddenly
13:22
mechanical engineers, material scientists, chemical engineers, uh experts in manufacturing who can work with AI become some of the most valuable employees on earth. Yeah. And it's also, you know, just changing how they have always worked in a business flow to your point earlier, if they were accustomed to an 18 month design cycle, now it's a matter of weeks. That's a cultural change for a lot of
13:48
the folks that work within your organization. So it's just another thing to keep in mind. as you know, like anything in these types of transformations, things like supply chains get rewired. If factories become smarter and faster, companies may have, you know, to move production closer to home. They may reduce inventory and rely more on AI driven forecasting than they would have, you know, just a couple of years ago. So it could definitely change.
14:17
how things like employees, supply chains, and just product development are kind of gone to market. Yeah, exactly. I think ultimately, uh digital AI helped companies communicate better and automate knowledge work. And then physical AI is going to help companies build better things. And uh that's an enormous transformation. Right. Right. I agree. Now, think about challenges and risks.
14:46
This isn't guaranteed. The physical world is very stubborn. It's messy, expensive, hard to automate. Uh, and it's filled with regulatory and safety constraints. You can't just move fast and break things when you're building aircraft parts or energy systems. Um, that impacts lives, that impacts businesses, supply chains. Um, so, so it is kind of that, that stubborn environment in the physical world that, that, you know, anybody would need to keep, kind of keep in mind.
15:17
Yeah, exactly. And on that, on that point that the data problem that we mentioned earlier is, is enormous. So if, if Prometheus wants AI to understand the physical world, they need enormous amounts of physical experimentation. And that means a robotics labs, sensors, testing rigs, all of those things cost a lot of money and the data side is going to take time. Yeah. And there's also competition. Look at companies like Tesla, you know, what, they're doing for.
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manufacturing with AI, Nvidia is pushing into robotics. So traditional industry giants are experimenting here as well. It's not just Prometheus. Um, they're not the only one who sees the opportunity. There's a lot of, uh, leaders out there in these organizations that all equally see the opportunity, uh, in the market. Yeah. And like you mentioned earlier, we still don't know Bezos is long-term intention is Prometheus going to serve enterprise customers?
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Or will it become the R &D engine for Blue Origin and Amazon and then pivot into enterprise like you mentioned before? We just don't know yet. Yeah. Yeah. That's all good speculation and interesting to kind of watch from the sidelines. know, kind of here's the big picture. AI is beginning to shift, you know, from the world of bits to the world of atoms. So it's going from that digital to physical and Project Prometheus is
16:41
The clearest signal yet that the physical economy is the next frontier for AI. So it's definitely something to keep, keep a watch out for. Yeah. And if they succeed, they'll, they'll change how the world designs products, builds factories and discovers new materials. And that's a level of impact that goes way beyond, you know, chat bots or office productivity tools. And, is, is going to really impact the real economy, uh, you know, the U S economy probably first and, and, and help us maintain a leadership position and go from there.
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Yeah, and for business leaders, this is really your early indicator. So recommendations, maybe start exploring how AI can influence your manufacturing or engineering, uh your supply chain process and product development workflows and start identifying the right partners for your business because the companies who figure this out now and first are going to define the next decade. So it is the long game.
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ah So it's definitely that, know, canary in the coal mine indication for you right now to think about this within your organization. Yeah. Great stuff. Well, thanks for joining us. If you enjoyed this deep dive, share it with someone who needs to understand where AI is heading and especially anyone working in operations engineering or manufacturing. Absolutely. We'll see you next time on the Macriod podcast. Thank you for joining.