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More for Me and You Podcast
Episode 30 | Reality Check with Kyland Young
Welcome back to the More for Me and You Podcast, brought to you by the free streaming service Mometu.
Today, I’m joined by someone you’ve probably seen on your TV screen competing, strategizing, and living life in the spotlight — Kyland Young. From making his mark as a standout player on Big Brother 23, to pushing his limits on The Challenge, and now gearing up for his next adventure on The Amazing Race, Kyland has become a familiar face in the world of reality television.
But in this episode, we go deeper than what you’ve seen on screen. Kyland shares his journey growing up, the dreams he originally had before reality TV, and the unexpected path that led him into becoming a multi-show competitor.
Later on, we switch gears with a fun round of This or That? — you’ll definitely get to know a whole new side of him — and then wrap things up with a spoiler-free review of the 2016 crime thriller Hacker.
So buckle up, because this conversation is a mix of behind-the-scenes insight, fun, and a little bit of movie talk. Let’s dive in.
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SPEAKER_02:Welcome back to the More for Me and You podcast, where we interview guests across the entertainment spectrum, get to know their journeys, hear what's going about in their life right now, and then we also do a spoiler-free movie review on a movie that they picked that's playing on Momitu. And if you haven't heard our podcast before, thanks for tuning in. And if you could go smash that subscribe button so you can not only listen to this episode, but check out some previous ones as well. We've had some incredible times with a lot of different people. I think we're up to like 30 episodes now, having a lot of fun. And before we get into the episode, big thanks to our main sponsor, Momitu. It's a free streaming service that you can watch up to 10,000 different movies and shows, a lot of things that are just really underserved and not talked about enough. You can download it for free on your Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV, Android, and any smart TV as well. Go check it out. Momitu. That's more for me and you. And today we have a very special guest. I'm very excited because I've been watching Big Brother for the last roughly 15 years. I'm not a super fan, but we have one of the super guests of the house here, Kylan Young. Thanks for joining us on the podcast, my friend. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_01:I'm excited to be here. It's just funny that you said, like, I'm not a super fan. I just watched the last decade and a half of this 30 episode per season show. I've watched a lot of episodes.
SPEAKER_02:Well, looked it comes down to the fact that I married into a family of super fans. Like I married into a family that has been watching Big Brother religiously, like year in, year out, since the inception. I kind of joined in like halfway through Big Brother, right? So I'm not a super fan. I didn't go back and watch the first 15 seasons to like what did I miss out on? Nor do I know what happened on day 47 or like all that stuff, right? I just I'm not that guy. I would be the worst contestant on the show because I just I there's no way I could remember all this stuff. Like as soon as I fall asleep, like I'm the kind of guy that sends myself notes or like sends myself an email to be like, here you gotta get this done tomorrow. Because if I don't, like my mind resets sometimes, and I just like, oh, two days later, I'm like, I did not do that or whatever that is. Like it's just how I am. Like big brother, not a chance. Comps, sure. Physical comps, maybe. I mean, I don't know. I'm 40, kind of dad bot on it. I mean, yeah. I mean, for the thing, feels like a father figure more than the dad bot. I appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate that. I actually have a koozie that says that. Said it's not a dad bot, it's a father figure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I I met a guy who I don't know if he made the koozie, but he's like a comedian. He's called Fit Dad, CEO. He does uh really funny content on the Oh, big fan, big fan. Yeah, I just met him uh very I guess like a month or two ago now, but um in person, it was it was really yeah, because I was like, hey, it was weird. I was like, I like your stuff, and he was really nice.
SPEAKER_02:Well, hey, FitDad, if you're listening, dude, love to have you on the podcast. I love your stuff. I it was all over my algorithm for so long. Uh right when I had our we have like a three and a half year old now, but right when we came to dad, he was all over my algorithm, like constantly. I was looking at baby stuff, like how to make sure this toddler does not uh you know go away. Uh make sure they're safe. So Kylan, we met at a red carpet event. So glad to meet you. Uh obviously, I right right from the moment I saw you, I was like, it's Kylan!
SPEAKER_03:It's Kylie, no way.
SPEAKER_02:Uh dude, big brothers going on right now. Yeah. I wanted to pick your brain real quick before we get into like your journey and your time. What are your thoughts on this season, dude? Like we've talked a little bit about it, but like there's been a lot going on.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, and also we're talking, I know that this will air a certain time later, but yeah, this is right after the you know bombshell. Yeah, spoiler, spoiler.
SPEAKER_02:Uh spoiler, if you haven't caught up by now, sorry.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, this is now now you're two, three weeks late. So now it's on you. Um, but yeah, with Rachel's, I guess we say eviction elimination. I don't know what to call it.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's yeah, it's not really an eviction, but it is the mastermind's eviction.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:At least she's not maybe is she the first person ever in BB history to be evicted without being voted out?
SPEAKER_01:So when I was studying for Big Brother, I could answer that very uh like I I I feel like I did know every single detail about the evictions, the order, people and out, all that. Um right now I don't, so I I I could be wrong, but I believe that they've had at least one time, if not two times, of uh day one competitions where like on the very first day, whoever gets last or whatever it was, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're evicted or eliminated.
SPEAKER_02:But they've also had like the like bounce backs or playback, whatever they're called. Yeah, battle back, not a super fan, right? I don't even know the words. No, of course. But again, yeah, battle the battle back in there. So like those people got to battle back.
SPEAKER_01:Well, no, no, no, there definitely was at least one person, yeah, if not more, who did not have a battle back. They literally very first week or very first day, they didn't even they the uh I remember one of them even had like a record of like the least amount of time spent in the big brother house. It's like seven hours or something like that. And excuse me. Um, so yeah, so I do know that there has I do know that there has been sometimes uh at least one time where someone was eliminated without a vote. And for me, I will say uh I'm not a fan. And and and I told you when we first talked about, like, I'm not a fan of bringing in uh experienced players with new players. Like I think it's and we saw this season, we were I felt like we were watching an NBA player play against college players and like for this cast, like Division II college players. So like I was uh not a fan on principle. And it's funny because when I watched Rachel's seasons, uh I wasn't really a fan of her. Um, but then I met her and Brendan at like my first your second year, probably my second year after the show, after my season, and at like some charity event, and they were just so wonderful, and Rachel's so wonderful, and like I know that she's uh you know an advocate for a lot of um social justice issues and just just such a great person. So like I became a Rachel fan. And so when I saw her on the show, I was like conflicted because I was like, okay, on a personal level, I like you, but on a game level, if I want to remain consistent, I don't like this twist. But then as weeks went on, I was like, I mean, I don't know who to root for because uh this season's been very tumultuous, and like I feel like the uh yes, uh questionable game moves um all around and uh just with a consistency that just is I feel like we have this big brother group chat, um, and it's been I think there's like 30 something alumni in there, and there is just uh and it's public, it's it's like a free app.
SPEAKER_02:Um is it kind of split down the middle of like people like are happy that she was on the show or like oh no no overwhelmingly people are happy.
SPEAKER_01:I also do feel like there's a a little bit of like fan pandering that people do, like, and that's one place I do like to distinguish myself is like kind of just being consistent because I find it also because I do live streaming, so like I'm like it's very hard to play a position that's inauthentic, like 24-7. Yeah, and so I have chosen not to do that, and uh and I you know I say my thoughts and like and I consistently, and and I think everyone likes to suggest that they do that, but like I have you know a very strong track record of doing it. So uh for me, it has been like I I it was tricky because you know she got eliminated, and people I was just like, I mean, yeah, like she also did have a chance to play this game. Like it's it's it's an unit's a twist I don't like, but she did have a chance to save herself and couldn't.
SPEAKER_02:And that's take the take the Rachel factor out. First of all, she did get eliminated, not evicted, she got eliminated.
SPEAKER_01:So let's be real, she didn't get evicted, although she was probably going to be eventually because it was probably I mean who knows with the decisions that true, true, with the judges and all that stuff that's going on.
SPEAKER_02:So either way, she's the first, I would say, legend to be eliminated. Oh, let's just be honest. Like, yeah, yeah, she's a phenomenal player and she's you know, she's a legend for a reason. Uh the fact that she kept calling herself a legend was I I always laughed at that because I'm like, stop calling yourself a legend. Like I agree with that. Like you can call them newbies, but just stop. Like, we know you are, like, just we don't need to talk about it, right? So I will say this is my conspiracy theory. Please. Okay, because so many big brother fans will say there's conspiracy theories about like it's so scripted and blah blah blah. And I'm like, okay, first of all, this shows that it's not. Yes. But I will say if you are a conspiracy theorist, I'm gonna go down this route that it was scripted. Okay because we we are only seeing this it's an edited version, it's not live, right? Because there were a bunch of spoilers and all that stuff, and and my wife even told me, like, hey, there's a spoiler. Did you see it? And I was like, No, I didn't. Don't tell me about it. I don't want to know, and I want to watch it on Tuesday. But either way, it was like it was so it was edited, and she was the first person out, first person to go to the house, right? Yeah, which I personally feel like she's not going to there, she's gonna actually get a or maybe she is, and maybe her family's gonna be there though. And they did this specifically so that she could say what she did on the way out, which was like, you guys better start playing hard, these freaking newbies, da da da. You better earn your vote. And like maybe that's the case, because like she is right, they weren't really playing Big Brother as you should be, they were pretty much playing let's float and see who gets evicted first, and then started kind of playing recently.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think that's my issue with her being there is that I did want to see how these people would have operated without her because like in the early weeks, like I saw conversations when that Vince was having, and Vince, like I wasn't even cheering for Vince, like he was not on my drafted team at all. So I was like kind of against Vince because I was like, dang, he's actually pretty good. Like in the early weeks, he was showing a lot of promise. It reminded me of like a Tyler or Derek, yeah, and then um just fell apart, but I significantly because of Rachel and and people she was influencing coming after him. So I was like, dang, I wonder what it would have been like. Would he have been running things or Morgan or or uh you know other people and what would the environment be like too? Because you do have that. We saw it with 19. 19 was when they had Paul come back as an individual player. And I feel like we saw a similar kind of uh let's follow this person, even though we know we shouldn't, uh, game-wise. And because you know, the returners, it's such a crazy advantage. Like I'm strongly against in concept, like even for myself, like if I if it was if I had the same opportunity, I would not like I wouldn't do it, but I would be like, oh man, this is extra pressure because this is such an advantage to play the game. We sat around my first week, and we were like, I remember we're like, oh my gosh, it's crazy they have returners because I've been in here less than a week, and I feel like I have miles ahead of anyone that's never been in here. And so she's won and she's played twice. Yep. And so it's just like such an advantage, uh, her position. So I was uh yeah, I would the only thing I would say on the conspiracy theory is I do know a decent amount of people in production that were on site during this, during the event and that were a part of it, and uh, you know, and they could all be involved. But I'm I'm I'm in general very uh anti-conspiracy because I always think about I forget who said it, but they said, like, you know, if you ever have there somebody saw like the moon landing, and they're like, Have you ever tried to plan a surprise party and not have someone tell? Like, there is 10,000 people on this team, or like that, however many people in production, and like, but it is yeah, it was it was a rough uh it was crazy. So I'm I'm interested.
SPEAKER_02:Either way, it was it was crazy to see her go. Like, and it was just like the whole process of like who you gonna pick, who you gonna pick, who you gonna pick, and then just that that came out and happened the way it did. Wild. Yeah, so uh I'll I'll ask you one last question about this season, just uh and and these will be quick answers of like names. Who from the first week once you like kind of got to know them somewhat before any of anyone was evicted? Who did you think was gonna win? Okay, and then as of today, who is your pick to win? Okay, and it could be the same person, right?
SPEAKER_01:Um so if I so I do know before the in the uh during the first episode I did pick uh and it's documented, I was in TikTok live. I I I did pick uh Keanu as my guy pick and Catherine as my girl pick. Okay, and obviously Catherine's out of the house, and immediately it started to feel some type of way within the first week or so. I was like, oh my gosh, like I don't know about these guys, but then obviously Keanu's been battling, so uh it's interesting. We'll see. But now looking at where things are, I mean, it's hard for me to not imagine that Morgan and Vince, like, or at least one of them are gonna be in the final two, if not both of them. And you know, I mean obviously anything can happen as we've seen in this month of mayhem. They said it's just beginning, but we have three eviction nights left, and we have five people that need to be evicted. Yep. So I don't know that means they need to have either a triple or two doubles or another twist, which I can't imagine them doing another twist where someone gets eliminated, especially knowing how people feel about now. So yeah, we'll see. Um, but those are the two that stand out to me right now.
SPEAKER_02:Cool. Yeah, from the beginning, I would say uh Vince was my like number one, and I think I really resonated with his answer when uh they asked him, like, what are you gonna do? And he said, I'm gonna do my best. I just really love it. I miss that. I like it. Oh, yeah, when they did the very beginnings, like when they uh they got like their envelope or their or their kind of social media, like they had to read something off a card. I like that. And it was like, What are you gonna do? Like, what are you gonna bring to the brother house? And he's like, I'm gonna bring my best. Okay, and I was just like, I was like, that's that's cool. And I just feel like then once you found out that he was like a super fan and kind of all that stuff, until he started crying. Uh I felt like he was gonna win.
SPEAKER_01:And crying's good if people believe it, but since nobody's believing it, so it was so bad.
SPEAKER_02:Come on, Vince. Come on, brother. Uh when you if you hopefully listen to this episode one day, come on, man. So and then, but now I um not that I think he may win, but I also I feel like he is like I'm pulling for him is Keanu. Yeah, I'm pulling for Keanu to win because his his closest ally in a sense was kind of Rachel at this point of the game. Yeah, weirdly, his frenemies straight up. But I think he's going to he's going to bring like he's gonna get with some people. I don't think the judges is gonna be a thing anymore, at least for maybe one more week, depending on who wins head of household or how the mayhem stuff goes, blah blah blah, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know who in the judges.
SPEAKER_02:I'm still gonna I'm still gonna pull for him because I think like at the end of the day, if if the battle back stays, or if it goes away, because that might be a thing, it might go away. Oh, battle of the block. The blockbuster. Blockbuster, sorry, yeah. There we go. Blockbuster. Battle back. See, again, not a super fan. Yeah, yeah. Um, but the blockbuster, if that were to go away and it'd just be a veto, like pure, pure big BB style, then I feel like he's still got a chance because he can take himself off the block by just winning comps.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, I think it is it is uh, and also it's weird because I in my head I'm like, well, they should be looking for an opportunity to get rid of him because of that competition win, especially when you get to Final Four. It's everything.
SPEAKER_02:And they tried, they tried for like four weeks straight, right? So he it couldn't get him, and then even Kelly's surprising when he comps too. So who knows what's gonna happen. I'm actually excited now. Now the fact that Rachel's like sparked a fire. I am excited, yes. And these these quote unquote newbies are like, all right, we gotta figure this out now. The the crutch is gone, like the the wicked witch of the west is gone, like whatever, like you know, the legend, she's gone. Now they gotta start playing, and they don't have that person in their ear. They don't have like Ava doesn't have her pulling her to the side and saying, You gotta do this, even though Ava hated it. It was like, hey, you she gave you some pretty sound advice. Yeah, like she's smart, so yeah, that's gone. Now you gotta play. So looking forward to see what happens. But this podcast, Kylan, we like to talk about your journey because people know you for who you are today, obviously, being a big brother uh contestant, being on the challenge, and being uh soon to be on the amazing race, which is really exciting. Yes, can't wait to tune into that on September 25th, right? That's it first night. So excited for that. But no one really knows the amazing race of your life. Hey, look at that. I like it. Look at that dad joke popped in there. Um so is a father figure joke. I don't know. No, dad joke. Definitely a dad joke, though. Kylan, Kylan called me a father figure. All right, so your journey, dude. Where did you grow up? Where did you where'd you live? Like, you know, what kind of kid were you? You know, kind of like your influences to be, you know, then we'll talk about a little bit when you get into your older life.
SPEAKER_01:But when you was a kid, um well, I grew up in Southern California in the high desert. So it's like uh about an hour and a half northeast of LA. And in the I. The IE, yeah, but in the worst part, Victorville is the same.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's yeah, that's like that's like North IE.
SPEAKER_01:I always notice how when you talk to people and they've they are familiar with Victorville because I think it's very, you know, we we tend to just live through live conversations passively, and it's I feel like it's kind of just human nature, and so people are just like, oh, yeah, where are you from? It's like, oh, Victorville, it's like, oh, cool. It's like, no, you don't know it, then you don't know you don't know where it is.
SPEAKER_02:It's like a perspective where Victorville is. Victorville is like north of the pass that is like near Big Bear, kind of, but Lake Overhead, but like keep going north. And if you've ever seen The Fast and the Furious, and you have someone that tells you, like, when he when when Rome is like, I ain't going back to Barstow, like Barstow and Victorville are practically the same town, except the only difference is like Barstow has like an outlet.
SPEAKER_01:Like no, no, no. All right, Barstow is the outlet, but Victorville has a mall and it has a movie theater, it has a little bit more people. I feel like in Victorville, we're like, well, at least we're not Barstow, all right? Like that is kind of the so it's one level above Barstow, but only barely.
SPEAKER_02:Um it's really like if you leave LA, which which town are you gonna stop in to pee before you go to Vegas? Exactly. It's an in-and-out gas stop on your way to Vegas. I've been to the Valero in Victorville mo numerous times. So usually decent rates. Because we uh I grew up in Santa Clarita, so okay. I don't know, Charlie Brown's. Oh, wait, oh wait. Charlie Brown, like the brown, it's like a it's like a brown build, like in the middle of the city. Well, I've never been there funny enough. Dude, I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it okay. They have like these like animal, like the burgers that they have. Like what city is the ice burger, and I don't even know what the city is. Yeah, well, it's definitely not a city, it's a town for sure. Uh probably they have it's a passer-by town, but it's like that's the only thing you stop at is Charlie Brown's. It's iconic, and it's between pretty much Victorville and like Palmdale.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, no, um, that's why I was like, I don't have many reasons to go to Palmdale, so I think that I've seen it. Um, but yeah, so Victorville is a terrible place, but that was where I think it was inexpensive. Let's say my my parents, uh, my I had split households because my parents got divorced before I turned one year old. So um, but both remarried, um, very close, very involved in my life. So good uh with my siblings. So I grew up with all of my siblings. Uh, we've never even acknowledged like a half sibling sort of deal. It's like we have I have four sisters, and I lived with all of them because I would just go week to week between my dads and my moms. And but yeah, my dad and my stepdad both worked in LA commuting from Victorville. So that was another thing, is that like that was just normal to me. It's like when it's all you know, uh, it's all you know. So even growing up in the two households was normal, that was which was interesting because that was you know, two religions, two philosophies, two there's just so many differences. And uh the so then I ended up going uh back and forth. So I was in Victorville, and then uh pretty much until we graduated, I think it was just like I said, I think it was just an inexpensive place to raise kids if you wanted to have a house, but uh work in LA and that was uh and we just you know wandered. We we I was like growing up, I feel like uh very it's I always I try and clarify outdoors because I meet so many people and talk about like us being outdoors and they seem to be you know in the woods and we like had no green around us at all.
SPEAKER_02:So it's just kind of we're in the uh trees of the Joshua trees. Yeah, the Joshua just wandering the desert with a bunch of cactus, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it was um, so I mean if we go all the way back, like I was uh I well now I know the the the expression would be like a nonverbal kid um because I I didn't know uh that I was on the autism spectrum until Big Brother, uh, because you know it's three months, 24-7 live feed. So people are watching. I get I after the three months, I I get out and I see you know messages, emails uh from people. And then even my my sister, who's a social worker or uh has her master's in social work, she works with a lot of families, and she was like, Hey, I've never observed you, but I noticed this. And they she had gotten messages too. So I was like, Oh, let me let let's look into this. And uh, but yeah, but so at the time it was just a kid that didn't talk, and my sister would talk for me. Funny enough, my older sister, that was like the joke was they would just ask her, like, they'd be like, What do you want? And I would just look at her and then she would be like, Oh, he wants this to eat or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:And uh and nobody's you had close family ties of like and coping mechanisms that were there, but yeah, when you're in the big brother house, like you don't have those crutches anymore to like fall back on, and you're like, uh, I can't make this decision, actually.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's it's that, and it's also the the thing I I try and explain, at least for for myself, is how communication, interpersonal communication is learned through osmosis, which is essentially you learn for most people, for a neurotypical person, um, you're you see how to interact with other people and you just do it because you're around it and because you see it. Uh, for a lot of neurodivergent people, especially on the autism spectrum, you are very you don't learn that way. You learn through like taking notes, trial and error, but very, but not automatic. Like it is, and especially if no one tells you, then you're just like, oh, that was an interesting interaction. But like you may not know why, and you may not feel the same things. Um, it's not to suggest that like I don't have feelings or emotions, but they're just triggered differently. And uh so so I've learned how to interact. I've learned about like uh so many things. And so, and but the coping uh and and masking that I was able to do is that that's the the term that's typically used, was you know, just I I benefited from having such a supportive family. And so my mom would go to all my classes uh in elementary school and she would just tell them, like, hey, by the way, like here's some differences to pay attention to, look out for. Um, especially because for me it's uh autism and ADHD, but neither ADHD was discovered in college when three of my five professors approached me and were like, Hey, have you ever checked this? I was like, What do you mean? Um, what are you talking about? Yeah. So then um the and then my later on was uh my yeah, uh after big brother. And so, but growing up, it just was a quiet kid, you know, didn't necessarily I try to avoid recess a lot. I tried to just stay in with the teacher and ask them like if I could count the money in the student store or something. Um and but like I was content. Like I genuinely I just saw this post the other day that I reshared that said, uh, you know, people who feel good about themselves try to make other people feel good. And that's very core to myself. And I do credit my family, my parents, like they really built a self-esteem for all of us, I think. And uh uh it was really I was just like, yeah, I'm different, but like that's that just is me and uh doesn't make me less.
SPEAKER_02:And so I think it's a great thing to be different at the same time, to be honest. Like, and to be honest, it it's I've had limited interactions with you, like we've had some interactions in person, and then obviously just again Big Brother fans will say, like, I interacted with Kylan for the the whole entire season, right? But it's us we uh from a one-sided conversation, right? Yes, but it's like no, you're you're just a very kind individual, like, and I think that's I think partly why you you went so far in in the house as well. You're just very kind and you were able to have a a solid social game, and so I think like your whole upbringing played really well into like people liking you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, I I think uh in a lot of ways, yes, but I also feel like it's just so effortful. I think that's the difference, is that it's like a I'm paying attention to a lot of things, yeah, uh constantly. And and uh so I think that's the double edge of it, is that like in in a lot of situations I can do it really well. Um, and kindness is for sure like my default. So it's not even that, it's just more like making sure someone feels received, feels, feels that way. And uh which in these games, uh, not even just Big Brother, the challenge also has been tricky because you know, you're with these people so consistently and they uh and you're looking for a reason to not trust someone because it's you know to game and you know that people are trying to game you. And so that was the trouble that uh I have had at times is like people will think that like they'll pick up on something as inauthentic and because it is technically like my my my intention's there, like I care and I want to be kind or or consider or whatever it is. Um, but I have to very intentionally sometimes uh or usually think about how to do that. And uh, you know, I'm so I'm paying attention to how other people are doing that and or what I've learned in the past about it. And luckily, I think that uh, you know, people talk about like uh hyperfixation for for ADHD a lot, and I really feel like mine became communication. Some like I I remember my mom was trying to get me to talk to uh other kids and people, just learn how to speak, and so she would like bring me with her to uh you know events she would go to because she was a real estate agent, she would uh, you know, a chamber of commerce meeting when I was a kid. So I like learned, you know, how to interact with people and uh against my will very much, but I feel like as soon as I started learning it, I was like, oh, this is an interesting skill set that like is not natural to me. So let me just keep learning and reading about it and studying and for sure. Um yeah, it's benefited me in in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think people need to definitely do that. Like on things that no, and it's not just that specifically, it's like all just things in life that your your skill sets are not strong in, like, spend more time on those skill sets to like be like get around people that are are better at better than you at something and just to learn it and understand it. Uh we had a uh episode recently with uh Brynn Norquist who she I and I I am gonna butcher the word Okay epistemophiliac is what she called me. She said, You're a person that just loves to learn. And I'm like, Yeah, that's kind of true. Like I I'm a person that like knows a lot about or a lot about or no, a little about a lot. I always get those words. I know a little about a lot because I'm just always so curious, but then there's certain things that I'm like I really lack in this. I need to spend a lot of time with someone that's really, really good at this, right? And so I'm not gonna say I'm a great podcaster, like it's only been like 30 episodes, but I I spend time listening to podcasts because there's certain things that people do differently or better or whatever, and I just want to be like, you know, good for the guests that come on and spend their time out of their, you know, you come on here. I'm not paying you to be here. It's like hey, we're just hanging and talking and chatting, right? What we're waiting for I'm out of here. I pay people in popcorn.
SPEAKER_01:So you've been honestly, that is the best currency for me in this situation.
SPEAKER_02:But it's like again, I don't want to waste people's time, right? Like, there's a lot that goes into this, and so like, yeah, I just want to learn how to be better at something that I I didn't I haven't been doing for years, right? So um that's cool that you got a chance to do that. Like your that your mom saw that for you. I mean, even though you're forced, you're you're forced upon your will to do it, but like it's a good thing because I think it you know obviously paid off for you then in in the long run. So uh getting out of your childhood, you uh and again, you we didn't talk about, I think you moved to Venice too, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So I was I lived in LA pretty much, I went to college in LA. I went to uh Pepperdine, and then um sometimes I lived in Orange County, but I would always go to uh I always worked in LA since I ever since I graduated. Yep. And I uh eventually during COVID, I had friends, I was living in the arts district downtown, and I had friends that had uh, it was like seven guys that lived together, and they were like, hey, we are craving like community and you know, we're tired of like the isolation. So we found this house. It's like a 10 bedroom house in Venice, this historic house, and it's usually a bed and breakfast, but they are listing it for rent because they can't have a bed and breakfast during COVID. So, uh We're gonna get it for a few months with you and my girlfriend at the time, my ex-girlfriend. Um we were living together at in the arts district, and we were like, Yeah, you know what, let's do it. And then and then actually credit her because she did not really want to do it, but she knew that I was craving community and everything. And uh, and she was kind enough to to to come out and she and she was a uh uh a nurse, a uh uh ER uh ICU nurse. So she was in the thick of it, like she was truly in the thick of it, and uh so yeah, I definitely am just appreciative of of that uh compassion.
SPEAKER_02:What a cool experience to live in a house with that many people, like yes, and a great opportunity. Like I've I've I've heard of obviously we talked to creators and like oh, I became a creator during that time, or I I did this during that time, whatever. Like I honed in this craft during that time and turned it into something that is big now, right? Started business or whatever, right? So many stories that go off of that. What a cool experience to have to be like, hey, like uh I know we're not supposed to be around people, but like you want you guys want to quarantine together? Like just live and just like learn and whatever. Like that's and it was a vegan household as well.
SPEAKER_01:A COVID big brother house, if you will. Like cameras. And it was funny too, because all of them were creators, almost all of them were some sort of creators or creative. And I was not, and that wasn't even really my interest. Like I was working, a job I really liked. Um, at that time I was with uh Scully uh app for helping kids find scholarships, and I was doing business development and partnerships and really enjoyed it, really liked what I was doing, and uh, but was just I liked these people and uh and I liked I wanted to have community because COVID was was a little bit isolated, and so uh that was a ended up being practice for big brother because I was in a house full of like all these wild personalities, um, and we were you know isolated kind of because of COVID.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm sure you guys did some comps, like just yeah, not big brother comps, but just like hey, how can we pass?
SPEAKER_01:Gay nights at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so yeah, it was it was uh how many push-ups can you do in a row, huh? No, I it was it was yeah, it was and it's funny because I think that like I said, some people were creators like of various levels though. But one one girl I want to shout this uh Brooke does everything on on Instagram. She moved into the house uh because it was kind of a road, we did end up uh have a few people only came for like a couple months, and she was like, I really want to. She was like doing, I don't even remember, she was doing odd jobs, but she wanted to be a creator, and she now has like I don't know, a couple, a few hundred thousand followers on Instagram. She just finished uh a bike uh skateboard, uh skateboarding across America. She won't is presented with an award from Red Bull for being the first woman and it was to ever do it, or first person maybe to ever do it. And uh yeah, partner with Red Bull on it. So like it's just was really cool to see like people like that that that just started when you got to see them start to talk to the people there and and want to do something, and then and then you see them do it. And it was it's uh it was a really special experience. That energy of the house, it did feel kind of magical, I will say.
SPEAKER_02:That's so cool. Well, speaking of that kind of thrill, uh what kind of thrills are you into? Because I've kind of doing some research into some crazy stuff, but like what what's your favorite kind of go-to thrill?
SPEAKER_01:Um well, that's another one that just kind of came about uh somewhere in like my teenage years, because I was very like I would get a stomachache if I saw like my sister get near the edge of a tall hill or something. Like I was just anti-thrill kid. I didn't want to do a roller coaster unless I had loops. Um I was tricked onto one once as like a teenager and I was just crying about it.
SPEAKER_02:Like I was right there, so yeah. I I grew up in Santa Clarita, by the way. Oh, yes, yeah, yes. I was in my backyard. I used to take like oh, it's been there for no no, I'm saying I don't even know if I it was the roller coaster.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know where it was, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe it's been Knottsbury Farm.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, true, exactly. One of the true um, I love I love Six Flags though. Now, that's the thing, is I love Six Flags. I love roller coasters, and I really do. It's funny. I I think that there's sometimes shifts in your life that like it's really cool and you can kind of credit a moment. And for me, it really was. I was listening to this interview uh on I think I was at some like uh you know, personal development event or or maybe because I feel like it wasn't really I wasn't really using YouTube like that in in high school. Um and uh but Will Smith was in this interview and he was talking about, you know, I started attacking things I was afraid of because I didn't like being scared of so many things, and I was like, it just clicked, and I was like, you know what, that that feels like a something I should try. And I started doing it. To this day, I think that I will chase like a certain level of discomfort. Um when like when I am about to do something, I'm like, oh, I'm kind of scared. I'm like, I should probably do it then. Like, and so that was uh the face your fears. Yeah, face your fears.
SPEAKER_02:You need to go to Fear Factor next.
SPEAKER_01:I know I heard they're bringing it back. Yeah, yeah. Are they really? That's what I hear. But it's uh uh but yeah, so now I love roller coasters, uh you know, the faster the better. Um, I did end up going to skydiving school a few years back. Um, that was really something I do want to go back. It's been a few years since I've I've been back, but it was such an experience. Um, and uh yeah, and I think I don't know, it's I I have done bungee jumping, and uh I would really love, and I think this is the first time I'm even acknowledging how much I want. I'd really love to like somehow find my way into like a jet, like a fighter jet. I've seen some people have been able to do that, and I don't know how, but you just need to get casted into the next Top Gun movie. Yeah, some like I yeah, I think I think that's what this experience with Big Brother has kind of pushed me towards is, you know, I won't say like dreaming because I've always been a dreamer, but like just not just because you don't see a path to something, like you can still call it out and be like, hey, you know what? I kind of and there's power to calling it out too. There's power to speaking something out, and you know, whether it's manifesting or whether it's just like connections and people seeing, uh finding out that like, oh wait, this is I know, I know somebody who has a jet or whatever it is, who knows what that uh opportunity is. But um, I think that's something that tie up on my list that like would be really cool to experience. And I've gotten to experience some really cool thrills in the challenge. And we had a car go off a cliff, we had a we were jumping off of a semi-truck, flying down like a highway um to like try and hit targets while we were roped up. So, like I've got to do some really cool stuff that I'm very grateful for. And um, yeah, I want to keep doing it.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely. Well, obviously, I need to talk about Big Brother a little bit. Of course. We've already talked about other people's seasons, but let's talk about yours. What were your favorite parts about Big Brother? Like being in the house and like the people you met, like just overall, like there's there's probably a few things that just really stand out about your time in the house.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, uh I'm favorite thing about Big Brother for my season. Wow, there really are multiple things because I think I would somehow have to wait it between the the friends that I made in the house for sure. The friends we made along the way. Yeah. And but also um I got to be a part of like something that you know, it's reality TV, but it was still part of something historic. Yeah. And it was um we had the cookout alliance, because Big Brother had a history 22 seasons. Uh, they had two black players ever make it past even halfway in the game. So uh I feel like the mindset going into the house, because like representation's been important to me, and I think that because I have felt its impact. Like when I see something that uh or I see myself in something, and and it can be powerful. Yep. And so I remember going to the house and I was like, okay, like I'm gonna be the one to do, I have to be the one to do it, like not just for me, but for all of us. And uh then I got in the house expecting to see like one or two other black people, like which was normally the case. And then I see that there's like six of us, and I was like, oh, so like now we have even numbers. Like maybe, and immediately it became okay, my immediately it became my goal is not to that I have to be the one, but I do have to make sure that there is one, that the winner of this season is one of us, and uh more on the side of like uh that that's been the interesting thing to like. I'm now not interesting, I guess maybe even annoying at this point, uh, but when to explain to people that it the especially and some people are trolling, they don't want to understand, but some people come out in good faith and they're like, hey, like I want to understand, uh, and they don't ask it this way exactly, but I can kind of sense when they are asking with a curiosity rather than like just a negative vibe or trolling. And they want to understand like why that, you know, why could this group work together and not other groups? And it's like, no, yeah, this is a a there's a shared experience in the black community that's different than other groups because uh I I I try and tell people like about culture. It's like you know, Irish is a culture, or there is a there are different cultures um across uh across different races, yeah. But for most uh African Americans that are descended from like the slave trade, you don't know that culture because you don't know the country of origin. So the bond is just being a black American. There's and it was okay, this group has been excluded, and sometimes explicitly, uh, but a lot of times I I I genuinely uh believe like just based on unconscious bias. Uh, but unfortunately it happens, and that's why they weren't making it far because it is a social game. And for us, it was like, okay, we want to be inclusive of this group that's traditionally been excluded in this exact environment. And we literally locked in on day one and were just like, hey, uh, I think we named it day two, the cookout. Yeah, and we're just like this could be a thing. Yeah, and we could make it happen. Exactly. We never met, we all six of us in the same room um for like 50 something days. And uh finally we and then we made it to the end, all six of us, the first alliance ever to make it to the end without losing a single member. First alliance of over three people, and yeah, so we made it, and uh then um I didn't win, but I got pretty far and it was a great experience. So, for to hear what that meant for so many people, because there are people that I'd been watching for a couple years, only myself, but I was a really big fan. But I talked to so many people who've been watching for so long and just the things they felt, and then also to talk to past black players who felt uh othered during their experience, like it brought them some healing, and it was uh an honor and a privilege to be part. Like I get chills thinking about it because I remember we were at uh we ended up doing like a little meetup with some of the the black alumni from from Big Brother Seasons, and we were talking to people that played the game 20 years ago, you know, and it just was like or you know, 10 years ago, different ranges, and hearing what it meant to them, and then you know, hearing what it meant to so many other people. So that was really special. And uh uh it's hard to, you know, not that that's why like it's the most traumatic experience of my life. Like it's for all of us, I think. Um, or most of us, I should say, not all of us, but it is uh there's nothing like it um in the bad ways, but there's nothing like it in the good ways. And uh I had that extra good element to it as well that I'm forever grateful for.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I I I think one thing that's missed is that people are so focused, especially people that are not like avid Big Brother fans, like they just see the news headlines or whatever and they just pick apart, you know, pick it up or trolling, right? Yeah, yeah. And so most people are like, like, oh, the African-American Alliance like got together, like you know, all the black people in the house got together and just made it happen. But I don't think people understand how hard it is to keep an alliance together. Like, it's it's not just the fact that it was like the first black alliance to like make it that far and to do and actually have someone win, right? It was beyond that too, it's like there's I don't think there's ever been an alliance that's been made on like day two that has made it all the way through either. Yeah. So to be able to keep it that secret and to be like, hey, we're gonna all be on different sides of the house, buddy up and like do all that. It was so secretive, and and you guys couldn't meet in the same place or the same house. It had to just be in passing and be like, here, you know, it was so well done. Like, I don't think people give you guys enough credit for getting all the way that far and getting everyone there. Like almost everyone, not everyone, but like no, no, every all six made it. It's just crazy that like you know what I'm saying, like it just to get to that point, yeah, it's phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01:I I say uh I feel I have humility for everything except for that, because it was that hard. Like it's the game is the hardest of all of these games. Um, you know, we have players that have played other games of this has been the consensus, and we know it just because of the length of time and the isolation and so many factors for this game. Uh, but the to to move one person forward in the game is hard. To move six is it's like it's nice to have the numbers, but to move them without losing a single person is challenging. And also to just play the game, and I think it speaks too to when you have something bigger because it sometimes we say that the things that helped is that we had a mission that was bigger than ourselves. For sure. So people would look and be like, wait, are they working together? It's like, oh wait, no, because those two don't even like each other, and they didn't like each other, but they just cared about the mission more than that, and so it almost helped in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You almost had to like, I mean, it was real, but it wasn't almost like play it off the way, like, hey, no, they actually don't like each other. Yeah, it was like obviously they were there anyone thought that like of those groups, like people just really, really didn't like each other.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, I mean, there was a strong, legitimate like beef between like Tiffany and Derek. I think between Ozza and Chada, if I remember, and between Ozza and me that I didn't even know about. So that was like a one side that was funny because I didn't know how much he disliked.
SPEAKER_02:One of those when you get out, you see the you see the video play and you're like, oh, really?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And she sounds like Oh, yeah, cool. I didn't like you. And I was like, what? Um, and everyone knew but me. I think like I always thought I was like, Yeah, keep it up, keep your joke, like you're doing great, and just uh but the uh but it's funny because that that bond, like our whole cast is bonded for sure. But uh the cookout, like we have a group chat. I mean, there's this this is four and a half years later. I don't think we have more than a few days without a message is popping up in that group chat today, like it's a family.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't think people realize like how close you get when you're just in tight quarters or something like that. I have a question that I need I need to ask.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:My brother-in-law is a BB super fan. And I was gonna try to get it on the on the phone, like live to get a call, but like uh something happened with his internet fiber cable, like fiber cable like got cut by some construction company down the street, like tried to FaceTime him, didn't even go through, it was crazy. So I have a question from Danny here. It's a two-part question though. So how did being filmed in the Big Brother house influence your actions? Like knowing you're being filmed influence your actions? And then what was it like returning home without cameras? Because you're so used to having like being filmed, like did it that whole just mentality of like I'm being filmed, I can't, or maybe I can't do this, or I will do this, or I'm not gonna change anything about myself versus then getting home and like did that influence how you were even before you were in the house, right? Like you started doing things differently.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I say when when people ask about the cameras, I would say that you don't for some people say you forget that they're there, and I I wouldn't say that my I'm for sure myself, but I I I think that a lot of people you don't forget, you just start to care less. You get more comfortable, yeah. You're just like, you know what? It's hard not to notice a moving camera, like you know, and you but you're just like it is I remember one somebody in the house was like, yeah, like I you know I don't curse and like you know, my parents don't think I'm a my parents still think I'm a virgin, and then by like the end you're they're just sharing the most raunchy stories and they're just like it is what it is. Like I can't you can't hide for for you can't hide for that long. Like you you're just on camera for so long that uh you know you can't play a character, and and so like there could be one thing, like obviously yes, Derek.
SPEAKER_02:A oh yeah, yeah, Derek and the Dinkers' job. Like true. But Derek was like, I mean, especially with any law enforcement, like they specifically gone and be like, I can't tell people I'm a cop because they're gonna think yes that I can get I can get away with things. Oh, I was thinking Derek Frazier and his dad, but yeah. Oh no, the Derek that won. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Derek Vasel, yeah. Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know his last name. But he was on the the the new. Yeah, so he's on BB Unlocked. Yep. So uh which I sorry I haven't watched one.
SPEAKER_01:So okay, you're not a super fan, but but it but Danny probably watched, right? Is it Danny? I'm sure Danny's definitely checked. Danny. So yeah, so I'd say that that is you like you don't forget, you just kind of start caring less. So you might you know want to hold on to something, but there's just people are gonna see, you know, or you yeah, you just start talking. Uh the only thing I will say on that though, too, is when people watch the live feeds, they feel like they have such a ownership over who you are and like what you are because they watch over three months, so I understand why. But one thing I try and tell people is how like when you watch and you think that you're like, okay, well, I know I know who this person is because I I got to watch them for so long, and they they make like character judgments a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I try and tell people that it is you haven't been filmed this long, so you can be in the house for you have somebody that's in the house for you know however many months and uh 24-7, and then they say something that bothers me. I'm not even talking about myself because like I I messed up and I we've already owned up to that and everything's good. But other people that have said stuff that like that was just so much uh out of character, and it's out of character even on the show. And I feel like people will watch it, and it's like, okay, so you watch this person for you know, they lasted for two months, six weeks, whatever, and you didn't like something that they said for about 16 seconds, and now this is what you think. It's like, well, no, I saw, you know, or they're just we I one thing I've gotten in the habit of like trying to, or one thing I've been trying to uh share more because I'm watching this season, people are judging, is they I is that like, you know, we it's really easy to look at uh bad actions of someone else and say that, oh, that's just their character, but for our own bad actions, that's well, that's just bad behavior. That was just me in that moment. And so it is really easy for us to do that for for other people, but it's like, well, why not give the same grace that you want people to have for you in that moment to others? And so because it's like you're people think that there's a quote of if you squeeze the orange, orange juice comes out because that's what's inside. And so they're like, yeah, like under pressure, we get to see who people really are. And in so many cases that can be true. But then there's also study after study on psychological studies that like if you put people in outrageous, stressful environments, they act out of care. Yeah, it's a pressure cooker. Yeah, yeah, it's a pressure cooker. And so I I try and you know tell people to extend that grace to the house guests that you see. But uh, so as far as but the adjustment side to circle all the way back, as I tend to try and do for Danny, the coming out of the house, I wouldn't say it's actually anything to do with the cameras. It's much more about the uh habits that you build. So, like when we because you wake up every morning and the announcer comes on and says, like, uh good morning, house guests it's time to wake up. Please replace your batteries, which I think is a choice. I feel like they could say your mic batteries, but they don't. They say your batteries. And I think that they're trying, like, because you start to feel like, am I a robot? Like, what's happening here? So you wake up, you replace your batteries, and I feel like I remember that, like waking up and like, oh, I need to do this, but I don't need to do it because I'm not even mic'd. And uh that, and then also just interacting because you're so isolated, like you don't see production, you don't interact with other humans outside of the people in the house. So I remember uh I think it was the day after a group of us, um, we went to like a restaurant, and the waitress came up and we had a moment where she came up and was like here to take our order. I was like, Hey, how's it going? Good. And like we just kind of looked at her and she just looked at us and we were like, What happens now? Like we forgot. Like it was genuinely like, oh, oh yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, there's something we have to do now. Menus. Like, like, let's look at this.
SPEAKER_01:And because yeah, you it just you're so out of real life, out of your normal life. And uh, so that was a weird adjustment. It was like adjusting to the habits and interacting in in the real life in the real world in such different ways.
SPEAKER_02:For sure. Danny, hope that helped. I thought it was gonna be. Love you, bro. Uh, all right, so moving on to the amazing race. Yes. Okay. It's coming out. Like the this episode is gonna drop like the Tuesday before the amazing race. Perfect. So it's Thursday. Thursday night. Thursday, the 25th. What was this experience like? And obviously, I know that like you can't tell us, but like, what can you tell us about the experience? Um, first of all, like A, why'd you do it? Oh, okay. And then B, like what was the what was it like just kind of, you know, just like or even why? Like, why were you doing it in the first place?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Uh okay, so the Amazing Race was doing this Big Brother season. I'd heard about it, but I I was actually planning or well hoping to do the challenge, and then I got the call that I wasn't doing it because I didn't match the theme. And uh it was, you know, and which I was like worried, I was like, okay, is that real? Is that not real? It turns out finally his show came out. I was like, okay, I didn't match the theme, so I'm okay with it. They weren't lying to me. Uh, so that was a relief. But then it felt like kind of it worked, it worked out extra well because uh right after I found that out, I found out that I was had this opportunity to join Taylor for the amazing race. Awesome. And uh Taylor and I, she was the winner uh of the season after my season, season 24.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Um, she was the first we we kind of call our seasons like the the uh I always say the godfather and godfather too. She says the Iliad and the Odyssey. Okay. Um, but it was, you know, we have the cookout and then we have this season of Taylor Hale, that is probably the most popular player to ever come out, Big Brother, as far as that fandom. And she has just you know million to one odds to win. She's uh I think on the block the most Vinny winner or something close to that, and uh, you know, very heavily bullied in the house and everything, and so and goes on to win. Uh and so many changes.
SPEAKER_02:Which is kind of kind of why I'm no, that's probably why I'm pulling for Keanu so much, is because he's been kind of bullied in so much. Like those, I like the underdog story of those.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I see the comparison for sure. And and that's what I've said. I've said, like, if you guys, if Keanu was uh either a woman or a smaller stature man, like an Ian from the past or something like that, it'd be a lot easier, I think, for people to realize, like, oh, this is bullying. Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and and so many thoughts. But now granted, he he not the course.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna pick you guys off.
SPEAKER_01:But it was just the clapping and the and the the the lack of clapping and the changes.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, when that when like he won that uh the walkout veto and and he's like, You got you got a script? And it's like he was at that point, he was like, Yo, like this has gone too far.
SPEAKER_01:It has, and they and they really yeah, they yeah, they so many so many thoughts on on that.
SPEAKER_02:But all right, so but amazing race.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so amazing race, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Why you why why are you doing it? And or why did you do it? And then obviously, like, you know, just what can you tell us about the about the experience?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, the amazing race was always something I I wanted to do. I feel like ever since I got into the space and started watching, uh excuse me. I feel like oh, actually, so The Amazing Race was one of the few reality shows that I was familiar with. I didn't really watch that much, but like my dad had seen some of it, or my parents had seen some of it, and I'd like see it in passing or something, and and none of them were like, you know, lifetime fans, but I knew also I was like, this is gonna be something that like all of my family would really enjoy as well. And that was another factor, especially my dad, because my dad like what he is so supportive. He doesn't enjoy these shows though, so that I do. Um, so but I know that he's really excited for the amazing race. So that's another little plus. Um and the and just seemed like such a cool experience. I mean, you and and two of my friends, uh, one of my closest friends that I met in the house, my season, uh Derek X and uh Claire, they they met in our season Big Brother. They competed on the Amazing Race, season three, four, and they won. And so that was really cool. And uh, and then I was like, and he told me about it, and it just seemed really, and I I watched his season, obviously, and I was like, this show seems dope. I'd like an opportunity, but I was like, I'm never gonna have an opportunity because they just won. So like they probably don't want any big brother people on here for years ever, and it was years, but not as many as I thought. And uh, so I found out through Taylor that um it was gonna be a family and friend season, uh, like a big brother plus one season sort of deal. So it was like somebody from Big Brother, and then uh a loved one of some sort. Yep. And then uh she the casting had mentioned me because they knew that she and I had dated for a time and uh were like on off, and it it started talking again. And first we were friends, like after a season, she was dating uh someone else, Joseph, who's a really good friend of both of us, who's also on our season of the amazing race, uh, and uh with his brother. Awkward, yeah, yeah. You would, I mean, on on face value, it would be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but uh he is and we're so similar, so it's funny, me and him. Um, and uh but we ended up uh all they he was going with his brother and she and and they hit me up or Taylor told me hey, they they asked me about if I would do it with you. And uh, and we can, you know, we're we have we we love each other, we haven't able to make it work because of like schedules and so many different things, but like, you know, what if we use this as like a test to really see if we can build like what we can build here? Uh for the race, it was like let's prepare together, let's bond, and we were able to build like a really great uh like harmony between us in so many ways, and uh just leak just preparing for the show. For sure. And then um after the show, uh we still we still tried uh for a time to continue dating and then kind of found like it not exactly aligning. Um and and who knows, like you know, what the future holds sort of deal, but uh it at the very least it did build like a connection, a deeper connection between us.
SPEAKER_02:And so let's let's ask this question in in a different way because obviously I know like spoiler-wise, you can't really have spoilers, so I get it. I was I've been on a couple of your TikTok lives and and you've shouted out me out a couple times, so I appreciate that. But I know like the trolls will get in there and be like, Oh, he blinked twice, so that means that this happened. It's like you guys are dumb. I know. Uh two things. A, did you have fun? Yes, and B, are you really excited? Like, are you happy that you had the experience?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, uh yeah, I'm very happy for the experience. I I say uh it lives up to the name, it really is amazing in every way. And um it's really excited to watch because the other thing that's interesting for the race, you don't get to see the other teams a lot of the times. So, like for the other show, a lot of the shows, you're watching each other compete, you're competing right alongside each other in the race. You may be miles countries apart at times. And you are so you have no idea what the other and I know most almost all of these people I I knew. Uh so when I get to see them, it was really exciting. I was like, Oh shoot, you guys are all here, and now we'll see uh I want to watch my friends yeah do these crazy things.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because now it's it's the amazing race. Yeah, it is amazing, and even with Big Brother, it's still like you're in a house together, but you still don't see all the conversations that are happening, and you get to see them after the fact, which is kind of cool too. So I'm excited for you. I get you get to do that. Um, dude, thank you again for coming on to do this. I really want to give you one moment before we go to the next segment, but can you look down the barrel? Just let people know where we can find you, uh, there be social media, if you have a website, whatever it may be. Did you write a book? I don't know. Go ahead and run right straight down there and let us know where you can find you.
SPEAKER_01:Um, well, you can find me on Instagram at KylandYoung uh and Kyland.young on TikTok. I live stream pretty much every night. So come and chat, hang out. And yeah, and I I also just say I love talking about the shows because I'm a fan of these shows. So like I love connecting with people, and that's the podcast connections with Kyland. Uh, and so yeah, all those those are the main channels. Like YouTube's Kyland Young. Um, yeah, everything's Kylan Young except TikTok. For some reason, Kylan.yo cannot get Kylan Young unlocked. It is something that I have that is. You gotta fight for that, man. I've been trying. So it's gone. But yeah, so that at Kyland Young on TikTok.
SPEAKER_02:How much money you want?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and watch uh and watch the amazing race starting September twenty-fifth.
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SPEAKER_01:Would you like to play? I'd love to play. I'll put the popcorn down so I can focus.
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SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, I have it. That's why I watch the movie. But everyone else, download Momitu because there's cool movies on there.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely. Got 20 questions. Wow. There's no wrong answers. That's my nightmare.
SPEAKER_01:Not the 20 questions, but just being able to answer one word for 20 questions.
SPEAKER_02:But I will force myself to do it. You got this. I believe in you. I trust in you. You can do this. We'll do it together. Okay. Okay? 20 questions, no wrong answers. And the first question we ask to every guest. Okay. The rest of the 19 questions are kind of tailored toward you. Wow. The last few get a little deeper. So let's have some fun.
unknown:Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_02:Tacos or pizza?
SPEAKER_01:Just so you know, I won't do this for every question. Just so you know, whenever people ask me about the shows, they're like, what do you like better? The challenge or big brother, the amazing race? Yeah, yeah. I say, I'm like, it's like pizza and ice cream. I used to say pizza and ice cream for the challenge and big brother. And then when I added on the amazing race, I was like, it's like pizza, ice cream, and tacos. Like, how are you gonna pick? They're just different vibes for different things. So this is my struggle with questions in general. Yeah. So I need to just add the disclaimer. I'm like, I'm going to make a choice, but I am not married to this choice. It is me forcing an answer that maybe I'll completely disagree with 60 six seconds after I say it. But I'm going to try. I'm going to, these are answers for how I feel in this very second that you're asking, just for the record. But now I will say pizza.
SPEAKER_02:I feel like we're going to have a lot of fun with this. That's it.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes. I need that disclaimer for everything.
SPEAKER_02:We're going to have fun with this. Podcasts or playlists? Podcasts. All right. What's your favorite podcast? Not this one.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Impact Theory. Impact Theory? I like Impact Theory a lot. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I haven't heard of that one.
SPEAKER_01:Is Tom Bilew. What is it about? He uh people's people that are like just he interviews different people that are like performing at a high level. He was the founder of Quest Nutrition. I think they sold the brand for like a billion dollars or something like that, and he just likes performance.
SPEAKER_02:That's awesome. Nighttime or daytime? Daytime. TikTok or Instagram? TikTok. TikTok. Why do you like TikTok?
SPEAKER_01:The live connection, it's different than other lives, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The interactive for sure. Family lessons or personal drive?
SPEAKER_01:Family lessons? What do you mean?
SPEAKER_02:Like uh grown-up family lessons, things that you stick with, like, or just your own personal drive. Like, hey, I I've I've learned this and I've gotten through this myself and I'm gonna you know teach it to myself, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna say personal drive because my family has faith and like I'm fortunate that they not all of them, but for the most part, they are like, this is weird. We don't understand what you're doing, yeah, but keep doing it. If you're if it's making you happy, like they they really mean that they're like if it's making you happy, go like I don't understand, but I'm supportive.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, cool. Personal drive, love it. You go to the movies, are you eating popcorn or candy?
SPEAKER_01:Popcorn. This one is forever answer, actually. I'm I'm struggling to not eat it because this mic is so close, and I know I am also a loud, aggressive popcorn eater. Like, I'm like, shh, like any anyone who goes to the movies with me ends up making a comment about my popcorn eating. So I'm like, you know what? I'm not gonna subject you guys to that. So you can hear me talk. I'm glad I could get you some more.
SPEAKER_02:I think you should uh you should probably pop that and and eat it on a live and then just have it be all up in the mic.
SPEAKER_01:No, I might have to do this popcorn is a lot of fun. I keep one of these in my trunk and you sometimes in my backpack, but I ate my one. I I keep emergency popcorn on me.
SPEAKER_02:I love that. All right. Uh, you're watching BB. Are you rooting them on or are you a critic of gameplay?
SPEAKER_01:Rooting on. Guys, it's too easy to critique, it's too easy to hate. Just be nice, be kind at least.
SPEAKER_02:You wouldn't be like, you know, I would have done that differently.
SPEAKER_01:No, I yes, I can think of that. I can observe.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you still root them on though. I love it. Yeah, absolutely. Be positive, guys. Spread the love. Uh, what tests your strength more? Patience or stamina?
SPEAKER_01:I would say patience. I feel like and I only say that because I I I actually do consider myself a patient person. I I I I've observed that, I've had that noted about me. That but I still feel like I struggle with patience as everyone does. But I've noticed that I tend to be better at it than most people, and who knows why. I mean, well, I have some thoughts, but many.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, patience is kind of stamina of the mind. But obviously that question is more tailored towards like patience or like obviously stamina of the body, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, stamina of the body. I mean, I'm like, it's I'm always I always want to push the it's like there's uh uh another Will Smith, he says, like, you know, he's you could be bigger, stronger, faster, but if you and me get on a treadmill together, like only one of two things is gonna happen. You're gonna get off first or I'm gonna die. Like that's that simple. And I feel like that's the mindset at least that helps me push my body in the endeavors that I do.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean if a bear's chasing you, not both you no, both people are not gonna die. Only like the slowest person is, right? Would you uh prefer to seek a mentor or mentor others?
SPEAKER_01:I guess seek a mentor. Yeah, I think that there's you know, you're never a tool to learn, and mentors can teach me how to mentor others just through example, even. Yeah, love it. Dodger dog or a double double? Oh, double double, in and out. Yeah, yeah. I'm in out purist. There's like nothing I I and it that's another family thing. Like, we are strong in and out people. For sure. That's like, yeah. My mom met one of like the owners of Five Guys or something somewhere, and they were like, Hey, like, you know, have you ever been five or like no, I'm not loyal? Like, after he already said who he was, and she's like, No, like I'm in out loyal. He's like, Well, I respect it. I hope you try it, and like gave her, you know, some gift cards, and I just was like, and we did, but it's just look, I love five guys, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:They have a a very unique way of making their stuff, but there's just something about in and out. My wife and I go there every family trip, so like whenever we get back from like any trip, if it's just it's two of us, or if it's like family trip or whatever, like we always go there. We just got back from like a family trip, and we were like we were so tired. We had just flown back from Hawaii, like we had toddler, and the closest in and out to our house does not have a drive-thru. Whoa, it is the worst in that sense. We were forced to go to Taco Bell because it was just the closest thing to that way that was all that was open. It was either that or Jack in the Box, and was just like, all right, Taco Bell, it is, let's go. So, but yeah, in and out is like usually our go-to after everyone. And it's the value trip.
SPEAKER_01:I always tell people that I'm like, I'm not saying it's the greatest burger, I'm saying for the price, nothing touches it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but there's also just some type of like experience that you get from being there, and now the whole like six seven trend, like everything. I didn't, oh my gosh, what is it? I don't know, dude. I'm 40. I don't know. Uh you already know. You knew 6'7. No, all the kids like they say six at like six seven, and it means nothing. Like, yes, I filmed it out from the music, which is crazy. Some song that like some rapper had, and it just says six seven, whatever. Uh, but no, in in in and outs right now, it's like all over like TikTok. They'll just be a video, like so. The guy would come to the mic from like order number sixty-seven, and like people like six seven, like go crazy. And so there's this one that like I just I loved it because there's this one kid that like he gets up and he's like order number sixty-eight. Like I love it, and then he says uh order number six seven, and then he finally everyone goes nuts. But like though, it's it's a thing. Yes, I don't know, it's a dumb thing, but like to be honest, I love that it brings people together, they laugh, they joke, all that stuff. Like, I'm all for it.
SPEAKER_01:So I need to whatever it is, do it. I needed to, I I need to to embrace that part of it. Yeah, I I that it's bringing I didn't know it was bringing people together. That does help with perspective because I was on TikTok live and one of the kids, this this kid Jason, who's been like, he's like an OG, like he's always in the lives and super supportive and everything and funny. But he uh he's a young, he's young, he's like a freshman college, and he said, uh, he's like, Hey, can you say six seven for me? And I was just like, Why? Like, like, are you setting me up for something? He's like, No, it's just like a thing. And I was like, Oh, six seven. He's like, Oh my god, he said it! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
SPEAKER_02:And I was like, What is this? It's like if people remember Pee-wee's Playhouse and like they say the word of the day, that's pretty much what it is. That's they're fair, except it's no Pee Wee's Playhouse?
unknown:No, the six-seven playhouse.
SPEAKER_02:You never heard of it right here, even Ken hasn't heard of it. It's just it's nonsense, it's a thing, but it is bringing people together, it brings people in a harmless way. All about it. I suppose Younger Kyland would be proud of you today or surprised by you today.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh. I mean both.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you gotta pick one.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, it's this or that, not not these. Um I would say surprised because I think that uh to a certain degree, I'd say like pride was expected. Like I once in the upbringing, like it was like, hey, you gotta do something positive, productive, and that was always the plan, but it was never anything like this.
SPEAKER_02:Yep, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:We've got a big brother question.
SPEAKER_02:Slop for a week. Are you eating slop for a week? Or would you rather do Judd's 24-hour confinement room?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, 24-hour confinement room. Really? Yeah, yeah. I mean, slop's not that bad. No, no, slop's not that bad.
SPEAKER_02:But once again, the patients, I don't mind being 24 hours of just pure silence in your thoughts and nothing else.
SPEAKER_01:But that's so much of Big Brother. Like when you get to the end, especially, like, like, because you you within a few weeks you've talked about all the things there are to talk about.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. But so to put in perspective, there is a room. Yeah, there's a room that someone created that is like literally the sound, it's like a soundless room. And people have tried to go in there, it's like three hours is like the max of time. Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, okay. I didn't know what this was. Like you can hear your own heart beating in the room.
SPEAKER_01:I'm so curious though, to experience that. Like, truly dude, gnarly.
SPEAKER_02:All right, if not TV, would you rather do nonprofit work or tech startup?
SPEAKER_01:Uh, I would probably lean tech startup in the sense of the company I was with was Scully. And SCALY is uh a social impact company, which is basically a for-profit company that does good and helps people. And I think that if you could do both and uh you know increase your impact even more than a nonprofit, then why wouldn't you?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Actually, shout out to my friends at Ad Good, it's a tech company that does advertising. And actually, what they do is they partner with nonprofit organizations to help get their commercials out on like OTT streaming like streaming or like on television, like so like Momitu or other other places, and they they get their nonprofit organization ads onto streamers for uh for free. Like, well, not like they still pay for it, but they pay a massively discounted rate in order to get the advertising out to help the nonprofit with their budgets. But then like it would be like Momitu. We would we would give them say five percent of our advertising space at at no charge. So for us, it's a write-off.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:But that's cool, but then for the for ad good, they're helping kind of bridge that gap so that more people can learn about nonprofits within their so like there's a nonprofit specifically. Like I'm a I'm a big fan of Laura's house in Orange County. They've been fighting against domestic violence in Orange County for like 30 plus years, and they work with the sheriffs and all that stuff. It's an amazing organization. But what they could do is they could say, Hey, Laura's house, we'll help you with your the advertising that you pay for to promote your stuff in Orange County, which they do. Hey, we can do it at a discounted rate, and hopefully they can get twice the amount of volume at the same spend or something like that. So I like really cool organization. Add good shout out to you guys. I don't know if you're listening to this or not, but hey, if you do, there it is. That's really cool. I like it. Appreciate what they're doing. Star Wars Marathon or Lord of the Rings Marathon?
SPEAKER_01:Star Wars. Star Wars. I love both. Yeah. But I was just glad you didn't say Star Wars or like Marvel, because that would have been a struggle.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Like if I say like Marvel or DC, is that a struggle or no?
SPEAKER_01:I mean kind of no, because I love I'm I'm I'm Superman tattoo. Like like I love Superman, but uh Marvel's just has a larger repertoire of movies.
SPEAKER_02:More important for growth, failures or victories? I mean failures, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's all always more to learn than failure.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. We need to get rid of participation medals, we need to get rid of eighth place medals, like all that stuff, hopefully, is already gone. If not, it needs to be. Because yeah, when you don't win, it actually helps you grow more sometimes.
SPEAKER_01:I mean well, and also I think that there's something about like that we haven't I think there's like overcorrection sometimes. It's like, you know, the participation trophy for you know people's children's like self-esteem or or whatever for nothing. But then it's just like, why don't you what if we instead like teach the winners how to you know uplift the losers or something like that? Like, like or or yeah, I I I feel like there's a there's a balance to things, and we tend to just move in extremes too often.
SPEAKER_02:It shouldn't just stop at 246A, who do we appreciate? Like that's it needs to go further than that, right? Yes, yes. All right, so what do you admire most? This is again another BB con conversation question. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01:But no, I love I love the shows. I am a super fan. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I know you are me and Danny.
SPEAKER_01:We're we're here, we're here for the big brother questions.
SPEAKER_02:What do you admire most? Strategy, social game, or being a comp beast? I mean, wait, are those three different things? Or are you blowing like strategy slash social game? Like obviously being on the being on the side of like not winning comps, right? Or being more of a comp beast.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, since you added the slash, I'd go strategy social game. If it was just purely social and comps, it'd be harder for me, even though like I know social is more important, but I'm just better at comps than I am. So uh, but strategy come adds another layer that I really like.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because obviously, like Keanu this season is a comp beast, yes, right? Like Kelly is kind of like looked at as a comp beast kind of, but like the social game is not really there, right? The strategy behind telling everyone I'm gonna get you out one by one, not really the best strategy, right? Yeah, but there's like players like Ava who are being very smart with their social game in a sense, right? Like she's kind of floating, but uh I think it's Derek.
SPEAKER_01:Derek is Derek Lavazza.
SPEAKER_02:Derek is by far the best social game strategy of all time, but he also I'm I'm sure he did win it.
SPEAKER_01:He won like one of beast a couple, yeah, yeah. Which is yeah, and then um and Tyler I think was so close to that, um, but just a slightly didn't count for like a bitterness and as much as which is hard to measure. That's why I feel like I was worried about in my season was like a bitterness, and probably made decisions at the end because I was worried about it that I didn't need to. So that's interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, all right. This is a long question, but what's the best zing? Gotta love zing bot Cody's about not making enemies except Christine's husband, or Liz being more excited to meet Austin's mom, dad, or girlfriend.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, um, definitely Cody's. Like, yeah, I love Cody. I love him, but that was a memorable. Like I had to try and remember this Liz one right now. I think Cody's that might be the most memorable thing ever. It was just rough.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Those are those are like the two most memorable ones, at least are more talked most talked about, most controversial. Yes. Um, yeah, Cody's. I'm I'm that my answer is Cody for sure. Leading into this season, I'm actually, I really, really, really want to see that. They need to, they need to, they need to bring it back. They they both need to make it to Zingbot. I just I gotta hear that. So yes, Zingbot. If you don't know what Zingbot is, you gotta look up Zingbot, is the best. And some of if you just look up like YouTube videos of Zingbot, you're gonna be like, this is so dumb.
SPEAKER_01:And also have no context. You're just watching like some be mean people and have the jokes you don't even understand.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, Zingbot's the best. I'm so glad that they do that.
SPEAKER_01:That's the and it's coming up, has to be coming up soon. Maybe this week. Is it might be? Is it seven? Something like oh, yeah, so maybe next week. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's seven. So I got I think I got well, we don't know exactly.
SPEAKER_01:They might do a double eviction this week.
SPEAKER_02:Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, we're going out of the house left and right. Who knows what's gonna happen? Uh, packing for the BB house or packing for global travel? What do you prefer?
SPEAKER_01:Hmm. Packing for the BB house. We have laundry there, so we can wash stuff. Um washing clothes in the sink.
SPEAKER_02:But you only get a limited amount of stuff to bring, right? You get one.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you have no, you have whatever you can carry on your one bag. Yeah, well, so you can you can have two bags, uh, but we took the strategy of bringing one bag because I can carry as much as as like you carry stuff for all of us if we minimize. And uh like me with the pack is gonna be a similar speed than with the tailor without, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. When uh with the BB house, like do you have to leave enough space to make sure that you can bring home like properties of the bigger? No, fortunately don't. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Because they give you the big brother duffel bag. All right, that's like yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like my favorite takeaway, I think. It was the big brother duffel bag. The uh that that's one that I hold close to me in my gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But it was, I mean, was it also fun like just having a small bag with you for the amazing erasures, like keeping it small and and no, I mean, and that is nice, and and also you really feel like an expert packer.
SPEAKER_01:Like you're like, oh, I can bring enough stuff, like because they tell you to pack for like you can fly spirit airlines. True, true, and you know what? I just met with Derek uh X this weekend, and uh in we went to Vegas, and he didn't realize that the ticket that he bought was like one of the like the he won a million dollars, but he's like, nah, let me pick the cheapest, cheapest ticket. Yeah and uh he found out like as he was packing, he's like, Oh man, I can only bring one tiny backpack, and he rocked it. And I was just like, he's like, Well, it's no problem. I know I can do it.
SPEAKER_02:So I love it, I love it. This is gonna be a tough one, okay. Maybe I don't know, maybe it might be. Maybe maybe it's not. Julie Chen Munvez or Phil Cogan.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man. I will say Phil, only because Julie, we noticed we we had a uh uh Hannah Chata from MySeason point out, she's like Julie's kind of the harbinger of death. Like, she is awesome, she's an icon, but the only time you see her is when she's coming to take away someone from the house to Julie to them.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you're like Hi Julie, you look amazing. What are you gonna say?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, exactly. Yeah, she's almost she's going to mostly deliver bad news of some sort. Um, I mean it's good news for somebody to leave, but like, and then the only time you're seeing Julie is when you're evicted. So it's like um, so yeah, so I think that that negative aspect is is makes it harder.
SPEAKER_02:Who's a better host to the to the audience?
SPEAKER_01:To the audience, Julie. Yeah, to the cast. Um, I think just by the nature of what I said, like you don't interact with Julie, but you do interact with the live in the BB house or run the amazing race for the rest of your life. Oh, and for the rest of my life, yeah, the amazing race. Like, I'm yeah, yeah, see the world or see this one room. It's yeah, it's is yeah. And even I think any virtually any length of time, I think would be the race because it is it's exhausting, but it's also uh what an experience, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, I'm really excited to tap into the amazing race this week. Cannot wait. Yes, because this episode's gonna be. That's cool. This week, no, this week is cool. It's there, yeah, it's right around the corner. And it's gonna be I I cannot wait. Cannot wait to see your your your race, your travels. Oh gosh. I know you're excited to I am, but uh dude, uh thanks for playing this or that. Thanks for playing. I love games. Yeah, whether you're going anywhere in the world on your own amazing race, go to coastlinetravel.com to book your next hotel flight or excursion, go to coastlinetravel.com. With that, we'll be right back. All right, it's time for today's small business shout-out. And I was scrolling through Instagram the other day and stumbled upon something that immediately caught my eye. A tiny little startup called Ancherton Sauce Company. Now, when I say tiny, I mean tiny. They don't even have a website yet. If you want a bottle, you literally have to DM them or drop them a comment on one of their posts. But here's the thing their small batch, hot sauce looks absolutely amazing. You can just tell it's made with care, quality, and that little bit of fire we all need in our lives. So if you're like me and you love supporting the little guys before they blow up, go grab a bottle today. Once again, that's Ancherton Sauce Company. And let me spell that out for you so you don't miss it. A-N-K-E-R-T-O-N, Ancherton Sauce Company. Show them some love, buy a bottle, and let's help this little startup heat things up. We are back with Mr. Kylan Young, and Kylan, I gave you one simple task. Download Momitu on your Roku, Fire TV, your Apple, your Android, or any one of your smart TVs, all 50 of them that you have in your household, and pick one single movie on Momitu. We have over 10,000 titles to choose from, and you picked the 2016 crime thriller. Hacker. Hacker. All right. Why did you pick hacker?
SPEAKER_01:I I just love crime thrillers. Like I'm not uh yeah, I'm not super big in like scary movies. I love movies, first off, in general. But I think of some of my favorites are like, you know, the suspense crime thrillers and this added in the hacking element. And I like that there's an organization like, you know, uh that is trying to, you know, hack against the system and and the you know nuances of the morals of that. And so I I think uh it just was right up my alley.
SPEAKER_02:Awesome. And what was what was like your first take after watching it?
SPEAKER_01:I think my first take is is it uh it was familiar. Like the not like familiar like plot line, but familiar like vibes. Like I don't know, I thought of like a uh Limitless, I thought of Okay, which is a very you know non-hacker movie, but just kind of the vibe of the storytelling reminded me of that. Yeah. And the uh the uh the voice, the voiceover. I didn't I never looked it up. I don't know if you if this guy's voice is in something. I'm I'm sure he is in something else, but it just felt so familiar. Like that's I think where that first familiar, that's why the word familiar first came to mind is his voiceover. And and I don't mind a narration, like I don't mind like you know, uh, especially for some movies don't need to be as long as they are, and like I am actually all for I love a long movie, but uh not when it's doesn't need to be. And I think that they use voiceover um for a lot of uh exposition story building that uh kept the pace fast. And uh I don't know, I'm trying to I feel like it, yeah, it just reminded me of a few of a lot of different movies and and uh in in a positive way though. I I I enjoyed it. I was like, I was intrigued, I was thinking about it, questions about it. Um, and I think it also mirrors uh, like I said, the the hacker organization that is trying to step up against the system. Um but like you know, where's the line of their own morals? And is an interesting question that I like to think about.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And then for those of you that have not heard of hacker before, it's it's kind of like what kind of it's it's a crime thriller, but it's also about kind of like the the hacker system, right? Like getting into the system, the black web. And it's about this kid, Alex, who he is a Ukrainian refugee, like his family uh immigrates over to Canada, uh, and then his parents are kind of like dealing with stuff, so like you know, dad becomes an alcoholic kind of thing, like deadbeat in a sense. The mom's working like jobs, and obviously uh she gets to a point where she loses her job. And Alex is like, well, hey, I've been kind of learning computers on the side, and he starts becoming like a hacker on the black web. So it's kind of the premise of the film. Uh then he gets stuck in kind of some deeper stuff and some some petty theft, but then also at the end of the day, he comes back and has some kind of uh morals about himself too. So uh I really love the film, it was it was an incredible watch. Uh, I've actually personally seen it like three times, so yeah, I I really go back to it. So if you're if you're really looking for like a fun film that you more than likely have never heard of in this genre, definitely check out Hacker. Uh, did you root for Alex? Like despite his kind of criminal activity, like was it was he still worthy of being like rooted for?
SPEAKER_01:I I'd say so. I I I think and that's something like I do appreciate as much as I appreciate, like I said, the nuance of you know, is this a good character or not? Um, I didn't mind uh for the story. I think it made it more enjoyable to have somebody that like you could pretty consistently root for. And um, and also that he is, you know, he's a smart, capable, resourceful person. So I think I appreciate that too. He's not like constantly making like every decision that you hate.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure. It was a fairly small cast, yeah. Oh, yeah, I guess so. It was a lot bigger. Like my take on that is like it's well, it felt a lot bigger than the limited cast that it had.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like, think about that for a second.
SPEAKER_01:No, I didn't think about it. I was like, it's basically Alex, and then Cy, and then eventually Kira, like Kira comes so late in the movie relative for like her role, yeah, and uh and then you got Zed, and you got the parents, yeah, and then you got some like very small side role, like the parents are kind of side rolls, then you got the jeweler that's a side role, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like there's some very small side rolls and some extras, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But for the most part, the number of people like talking on screen is very limited, but it feels so much bigger than that, yeah, and and they have a fun uh like the storytelling style of like revealing stuff, you know, over time, um, like starting in one time and or not like a jumping time, but like starting with uh, you know, an opening scene that like you understand more of later in like a way that and multiple times they do that. And uh yeah, I appreciated it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it was really cool. Did it did it feel more of like a gritty tech thriller? Or did it feel kind of more like a crime drama, or was it kind of in between?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I I feel uh I I guess more in like the tech side, or I mean, or I guess more crime, like because they they don't get technical, I guess. They never really get suit technical. You see him, how he signs on, but then you know, effectively he's selling stuff and and uh in a lot of his IRL like sort of interactions. Um so I think that uh it's probably more in the in the crime side and um the but in a uh but it has that that's why I think of like a limitless or something, because it has like a clean, like it's not crime in the sense of, you know, um you you it's it's different to watch them sell stolen stuff than it is to watch them steal stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's almost like a step removed from the crime. Um, but like you know it's still happening, but it feels cleaner in that sense. Um, and uh and then also the fact that like they are working with the hacking organization that wants to, you know, go against like the the corporations. Um that also is makes it easier to cheer for some for some things, or at least like give a pass on some criminality at times. Um so yeah, I think I think it it is a crime, I wouldn't say gritty crime, but like uh it is like the the modern uh suspense crime like thriller. That's not not too dark.
SPEAKER_02:What's crazy you say modern? This was made 10 years ago, which is that's that's but no, but that's the weird that's the crazy thing, is it's still relevant. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Think about like kind of the real world aspect of of like identity theft and cybersecurity and cyber surveillance, uh, even like Big Brothers, Silent Survey, like you know, like getting surveyed all the time and like seeing cameras all the time and like being like you're always watched now. Like can you trust what you see? Yeah, we talked about that recently on like uh on Stony the Great's episode where when Stoney was talking, we were talking about like how like there was a post that he put on social media and how like old school technology was was almost a blessing because like if someone called your house phone and you didn't answer, they had to leave a voicemail in order to get in touch with you, and then there was like page. And then there was like eventually like flip phones and then smartphones. And now it's to the point where like, dude, like you're being watched at all times. There's always cameras on you. And then on top of that, if if you someone calls you and you don't answer, they're gonna leave a voicemail, maybe. But then they're gonna they're gonna text you. Yeah. And if you don't answer your text, or you leave them on red or or don't even read it or whatever, and you just like see the notification, you read it from there and don't open it, whatever, then they're gonna go to Instagram and be like, oh, did this guy go on Instagram and like post something or respond to something or like something or whatever? Yeah. And like it's crazy. Like you're never left alone. So like even though this was again 10 years removed, there's still aspects of this that is still relevant today, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_01:No, I very notoriously amongst my friends am known for I I my phone is on D D virtually all the time. Like unless I forget, unless it turns off on accident or something like that. And they hate it, but I'm just like, that's how communication works. Like, like worked. Is that yeah, so for me, and also I don't have like kids or anything. So I'm just like, I'm like, nobody needs to reach me that bad, that importantly. Like I can check my messages later on. Yeah, but they hate it.
SPEAKER_02:Having a level of privacy is is important, yeah, or unreachability.
SPEAKER_01:And I think you know, also the shows like I get used to being unavailable for months at a time with no phone, so it's yeah, very true. But no, it is like uh I think you you and that's the it's such an interesting bar you say. I was thinking modern just you know, post yes 2000 or something. And the technology program. Yeah, but you can look at technology to gauge, you know, the how technology is such a symbol of time is is interesting. Yeah, like it is a like you you if you see flip phones and you know, okay, they're in this time period versus this one, whatever. Usually that's that's the case. And uh um, yeah, I think uh it is and you and you feel that here, but the which I think lends itself to the technology in the movie is older, but it does feel modern, and like you said, it's so relevant to a lot of the conversations and thoughts. I mean, the only thing that's really missing is AI, like to be super, super relevant right now, but as far as uh the the general themes and conversations and plots are very current.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and coding and all that stuff that they were doing is incredible. Were there and again without listing any spoilers here, this is the tar this is probably the hardest question to answer about that. Okay. Were there any moments of this film that stood out to you?
SPEAKER_01:Um there's a a line they said something about how the and I'm I'm gonna misquote it. No, you can paraphrase it. It was something about how the drug dealer or the the the drug addict is a part I actually did have it in this notes I kept out. Oh yeah, pull it up. Um they said uh drug addicts make mistakes, drug dealers commit crimes. And I think that was uh like not that I I'm very pro accountability in in general um across the board, but uh or I guess yeah, I'm very pro accountability like across the board. However, I'm also very pro like compassion across the board. And I think that you, you know, we there is a lot of knowledge around uh, you know, how different circumstances can, you know, make people more or less likely to to eventually find their way to to some sort of criminality that that they wouldn't normally want to do, just desperation, basically. Yeah, and I think that uh they show that with this character. I mean you you see him in the beginning with his like his he you know just wanted to take for keep his mom from losing her house. They were already refugees, they already had to you know leave their land, and he's like, wait, I just want to do this. And uh, and then you especially when you're being um, you know, when when she's getting uh the the open I think it's in the the description, so it doesn't feel like a spoiler that she got fired from her job and it's gonna lose her house.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's early on in the movie, so it's not really a spoiler.
SPEAKER_01:And he's like and it's very unfair the whole situation, the way it plays out. So I think that there is um, I don't know, it it I think it's a slippery slope of like excusing crime and you don't want to get there, but you do I there's some country, I'm blanking out on what it is, uh somewhere in South America that has done very well with uh reducing drug use across their across like their capital and the places where it was worse. And I remember the the some of the I watched uh or read some, this is years ago, probably a decade ago, and the president or or one of the administrators or whatever admin of the c of the country said, you know, we we didn't we stopped looking at uh drug users as criminals and started treating treating them as like people that need help. And that through doing that, they were able to help, like uh able to decrease the drug use as a whole um when they didn't treat them that way. And I think I don't know, I think that this film uh that was a line that stood out because I it's something I believe is at least thinking about things compassionately.
SPEAKER_02:That's really cool. Yeah, yeah, I didn't that didn't stand out to me, but that that's such a cool line. I gotta pay attention to it. Because I will watch this movie again. Like I I it's it was a good watch for me. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah. As far as this film, who do you think will enjoy this type of film? And and would you recommend it?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, no, I would recommend it because I might watch a lot of movies. I love movies, so like that's probably my favorite hobby is watching movies. Um, and so I get asked about recommendations. Normally I say is like, I say, well, what are the movies that you like? I think about answering that in terms of through this same logic. So I'd say like people who like Limitless or people who like uh a, you know, uh even heist to a degree, like the modern, like a now you see me or something, or uh for sure. Not not uh few movies are at the level of like an inception, but it is that like heist element of you know, a thriller that has um some sort of uh I'm sure that there's others, it's it is uh it's like faster pace than a heat, um, because and more modern than like a movie like Heat, but it still is that uh, you know, it's it's uh the I feel like a pace of like an Italian job, but I was just gonna say Italian job.
SPEAKER_02:That's it uh it was on the tip of my thumb. I was like waiting for you to keep you to finish your phrase there. Yeah, and again, and again, I'm I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say like, yeah, I mean granted, like you're you're looking at like the level of the cast, right? Of like, I mean, Italian job has some of the best actors of all time, like across the city. Yeah, oh my gosh, the cast is insane. Which like not only are you gonna get the writing that where they were given, but they're also gonna get all those all those ad lib improv takes that they also you know add into and add their dynamics to their characters. So like it's hard to just compare, but like the vibe, yeah, definitely the vibe of that.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I mean it's a vibe, and also I think uh, and this just is maybe more to Momitu. Yeah, I feel like you, you know, I didn't know what to expect. Like, I and so I think that it didn't feel like you were watching, like, you know, there are some streaming services that you watch and you're like, okay, like these people are struggling, like you're struggling to watch it. And this felt like it's like, oh, I'm not familiar with these actors. It almost reminded me of like when you watch like uh like a British film or something. It's like, I don't know of these people, but like they're all good at what they're doing, and the movie's well made. It didn't feel like it was, you know, shot at like a lower quality, even like it like you said, the scale is the scale is big. Uh and um I think that that was uh another just another element of both momito and then also the the film itself.
SPEAKER_02:For sure. Did you did you get a a good amount of time to kind of go through the app at all or did how much time did you spend?
SPEAKER_01:Um I do enough time to I like the uh the what is it the the navigation just being kind of more randomized? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And that you are user interface or distance of selection.
SPEAKER_01:It's easy to look through, but I also like that it's not um, you know, you're you're not being pushed one thing. It's like more uh yeah, the uh I don't know if it's customized based on your interest because I haven't done enough of it. No, it's or if it's just randomized.
SPEAKER_02:No, so how we do it is we actually hand curate all of our content. And so when you go to the app, when I go to the app, when Ken goes to the app, or when anyone that visits the Momitu app checks it out, it is completely the same for every person. Okay, that's so what happens is that we actually curate the content to the way that we want you to be exposed to it. Okay, so that you do get exposed to content you typically would have not clicked on or maybe seen. We'll promote some like some uh you know indie films that are like made for under 10 grand. We'll we'll promote some international films that you may or may not have clicked on because your algorithm would have never presented it to you. Uh, we also have like we again we we uh we saw each other on the red carpet at Greg Berman's comedy special. Like, so Greg Berman's comedy special is live on Momi Too right now as well. So it's the first comedy special that we've brought onto the platform, which is really exciting for for us to do that and uh hopefully work with more comedians in that aspect as well in the future. But we we present all this different types of content. Now, what's your favorite type of genre? Wait, how do you pick? I mean, so we we we work with tons of different partners with their content and we work through it and just like we bring all this content onto the platform, and then our team goes through. And shout out to Charles, uh director of operations for for content curation. He goes through and actually sets uh all these titles around and everything and moves everything around and curates all these fun. Uh, you know, we have like echoes of Elm Street instead of just saying classic horror, it's just a little more playful and fun, right? Uh I think we have we just we just created a um it's an it's a Asian collection. So this is like multiple countries of thrillers and horror films. And we and we named it Shadows of the East. Okay. And so it's just a little more playful and fun. So again, we have all that stuff, High Noon Heroics and and all this stuff. So again, going through the app, you're gonna find stuff that's just a little more unique. Uh sleuth or stream is another one we just recently created. So it's all like, you know, kind of spy movies and stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But let's just say you're into like what genre really I mean uh uh yeah, I I like so many, but I let's call it like you know, the psychological thrillers that are like the suspense, the the heist, like yeah, anywhere in that space, anything.
SPEAKER_02:So you can go, yeah, Christopher Nolan. We don't have Christopher Nolan. No, no, no, that vibe. I get you, I get you. Uh this is all a lot of like underserved concepts. Yes, yeah, sorry. Um but yeah, so you can go into genres, go over to crime, and you're just immersed in a just a world of crime, right? You can go into the if you wanted to get deeper into that, you could go into the vibe section, which is like our niche category, and you can go to something a little deeper. So, like if you wanted to go into like Korean cinema, or if you wanted to go into like we have a section called Black Voices, and so like within Black Voices is like obviously our black content, and we have broken down from like comedy, thriller, action, suspense, like it's all broken down. Uh, we even have stuff like Nollywood, like from international stuff, right? So uh we have all these broken down, and then we have a whole section actually, it's called World Cinema. Like we have it broken down by country, and you can get really into cinema from like different parts of the world, which is really cool. Yeah, and so like everything is curated like that, but it's dull again, all done by our team by hand, so that you get exposed to stuff that you normally may or may not have done so because an algorithm's only gonna present, like you mentioned, a very small amount of content because it's based on what you've clicked, what you've watched, what you've you know, all that stuff, right?
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, you don't get to think outside of what you normally see.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and there's another so we have two other cool sections. There's a sh a section for just shows. So it and and most of the shows we have are gonna be either independent shows, like real like small budget shows, or we do have some classics which are in there, which are really cool to kind of go back in time and see some of the older stuff, like like the Merle Burton uh the or the Milton Burrell show, and uh even um the the the Lucy show. So like not I love Lucy, but the Lucy show. Oh we have that, we have some other really cool stuff. We have the Beverly Hillbillies on there, so go and you know, some classic, classic content there, and then we have a whole section of channels. So like if you're into like MMA fighting, yeah, we have a section called uh or a channel called the Lights Out Sports channel. And Lights Out Sports is actually Sean Merriman, who's a former Charger player, it's his channel that it's uh extreme fighting, like MMA fighting. Oh wow, and it's just all the fights on just a full loop. So uh we have a cooking channel, we have some stuff, like it's just there's a whole mix of content. So uh yeah, again, all that stuff done by hand by our team. So um sorry that I went a little deeper than that. No, no, no. It's kind of that tangent of there. I'm talking more now, but it's uh it's more just a like, yeah, we we have I'm glad that you you felt that. Yeah, it it like it made me excited because it's like, man, that's that's what we're working for. Like we we want to have that experience for people that typically are only gonna get it served like one percent or maybe less than five percent of the content on another app, and you get to use this for free, which is really cool. So there's no risk, all reward.
SPEAKER_01:I I support it as is I'm hacker got me interested in like I want to see what else is on.
SPEAKER_02:That's awesome. Well, uh dude, thank you for coming on. Thank you for uh obviously reviewing Hacker, but uh more than anything, thanks for sharing your journey. Oh yeah, thanks for sharing a little bit more about yourself. Hopefully, if that's the first time people are hearing that about you, like and and knowing more about Kylan Young, like I'm stoked. Yeah, got the exclusive. But uh, and then obviously to touch on it one more time. Go check out the amazing race coming out Thursday, September 25th. If it's past the 25th and you're listening to this, go back.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sure you can go watch the episodes of the Paramount Plus, it'll it'll be they'll be showing it all.
SPEAKER_02:Awesome. Kylan, dude, thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate it, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I appreciate it. We'll have you on again. I'm excited. I'll I'll come back. Let's do another movie. Yeah, I told you, I I uh I'm really at loss for words, so I love wrapping out. So thanks for having me. Awesome. I'll see you on TikTok later on.
SPEAKER_02:Thanks for spending your time with us today on the More for Me and You podcast. If you've made it to the end, we appreciate you. Now, go do us a quick favor. Please like, comment, and share this episode. And before you go, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode with the incredible guests we have coming up. You can also follow us at MomiTube Podcast on Instagram and on TikTok. Oh, and for your next movie night, check out the Momi2 app. It's free and packed with amazing movies and shows you've probably never seen. Until next time, take care, stay safe, and we'll see you in the pod.
