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Between Worlds: A HUGE Mistake and One Woman's Extraordinary Near-Death Experience
What happens when you're given a 1% chance of survival and doctors tell your family it's time to let you go? For Elle Saramaga, this critical moment led to an extraordinary journey beyond physical consciousness that would forever transform her understanding of human existence.
After a physician mistakenly administered the wrong medication, Elle experienced catastrophic organ failure that sent her into a two-month coma. As her body struggled to survive, her consciousness expanded into realms beyond ordinary perception. While doctors insisted her brain couldn't possibly survive the extreme conditions, Elle's family refused to remove life support—a decision that ultimately saved her life.
Perhaps most compelling is Elle's perspective on the relationship between science and spirituality. "Science is the left hand, spirituality is the right," she explains. "If they worked together, our world would be advanced." This integrated vision now guides her professional life—after relearning to walk and write following her medical crisis, Elle pursued education in pharmacogenetics and genetic medicine, determined to bridge these seemingly separate domains of understanding.
Elle's story isn't just about survival against impossible odds or mysterious realms beyond physical existence. It's about recognizing our fundamental interconnection—not just spiritually but scientifically through energy and DNA—and awakening to our extraordinary potential as human beings. Join us for this remarkable conversation that will leave you questioning the boundaries of consciousness and inspired by the profound wisdom that can emerge from life's darkest moments.
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My daughter said no, mommy, that's the actual date. You've been in a coma for two and a half months, and then I just started. I went to try to write something and started crying because I couldn't write my name. I feel like I'm shamelessly dependent on God, meaning I'm the type of person like God. Should I eat a sandwich today?
Speaker 2:Girl, you are singing my song. I literally say that Me too. Like I literally say God, I'm sorry. Like I even say it, and sometimes I'll talk to him full blown in the middle of the day, going are you serious? Right now You're rushing to the hospital. Something is really wrong. Was it the medicine you just started taking? As the emergency doors open and you rush in, your last thought is someone please tell my daughter I'm going to be okay. But it wasn't okay.
Speaker 2:Al Saramaga was given only a 1% chance of survival after a doctor mistakenly administrated the wrong medication. Al lay in a coma for two months. The doctors told her family it was time to let her go. As her family stood by in despair, elle's spirit slipped away. She was pulled into a realm of light. She saw the future of the planet, its struggles, its hope. A surge of clarity rushed through her. This is not the end. She had a purpose and she woke up After having to relearn to walk and write, she dedicated her life to genetic medicine. She is determined to give back, to give the best version of herself and change the world. One discovery at a time, raw and real. Here is Elle Suramaga.
Speaker 1:How are you? I'm good, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:I am doing so well. I'm branched off onto my own podcast, so it's been great. It's just amazing what's going on. Tell me what's going on.
Speaker 1:What's new with you since I last talked with you? Doing more in genetics and just learning a lot and excited Boyfriend I've found and I share this with my daughter too since my NDE my priorities are different in regards to relationships and even you know just what I place importance on. So it's more kind of like what can I give the world of myself and what can I enjoy and take from the world, of the lessons from this life? So that's like more important to me.
Speaker 2:And just a side note too, I know I've said this to you, but my interview with you on my other podcast was one of, if not my, favorite one. I felt like you know, I think you know this, but if you don't, I was the person on the podcast that was sort of stepping in with just a toe into that world that I had no idea about, and I was coming from a direction of trying to bridge that gap with people who don't know, maybe want to know, and I find your I found yours personally so enlightening, mostly, I think, because of your, your, your relationship with the Bible and your spirit, spirituality, and that's something I could hone in with. So, anyway, I just want to tell you that, because I think you're awesome and I'm so happy that you said yes. Previously to the NDE, you were already going through some medical issues. Walk me through what that looked like. Before you got to the point where they actually said to you you have 1% chance of survival.
Speaker 1:Well, the irony is is, before this all happened to me, I was pretty healthy. I almost never got sick. I used to eat organic. I almost never got sick, I used to eat organic. You know, I was just kind of like felt it was really important what you put in your body and I was careful of doing that. I never got the flu, I never got the flu shot, you know. So that was the irony of it.
Speaker 1:And then when I got this, you know infection, which is how everything started I started recovering from the infection in the hospital and then, all of a sudden, I had a reaction to a medicine and then that kind of was I started having kidney failure, kidney failure, lung failure, my body was, you know, deteriorating, so I was induced in a coma so they could take pressure off my body and because they couldn't figure out how to stabilize me, and, yeah, they ultimately at the end, where they were trying to convince my family to take me off of life support, they said you know, she has less than a 1% chance of survival and they said if I was going to survive, that I would be in a vegetated state and that you know that the brain could not survive the level of carbon dioxide that my brain was exposed to.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you something, simply because I went through sort of the same thing with my mother. When they tell your family this, do they make that decision at that moment to say no, we want to continue. We believe she's going to come out of it. Or is that something that they decided? Who decided to keep you going?
Speaker 1:My family did.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they tried to they'd come from different angles, you know.
Speaker 2:I tell people like medical advocacy.
Speaker 1:this is medical advocacy, advice. Make sure that if, if, whether it's you or somebody else in your family or close friend that you're seeing, make sure that you realize your power and your voice and that you can make decisions for the situation. Because they tried multiple times to try to get my family to take me off of life support. They wouldn't budge up until the end when they said you know, there's really nothing else we can do. And they finally said you know, we've got to take her. We've got to take her off. She has a less than 1% chance of survival.
Speaker 1:But what they did was a new angle. They said we have an oscillator. It's in the basement. It's old technology. Nobody knows how to use it. We're going to bring somebody in. We're going to switch her from life support to this oscillator. It's going to take pressure off of her lungs and if she survives, then we'll put her. They didn't say if she survives, but they said we'll switch her out. Translation what was really happening is is they were using that as an opportunity to take me off life support, in their mind, knowing that I was going to crash and you know that that would be it. Okay. So what happened was is they went to take me off I, I, I began to crash and then all of a sudden I started breathing on my own. So they're legally obligated to put me on the oscillator to keep to, to help support my breathing. That's the only reason I'm here.
Speaker 2:That is nuts.
Speaker 1:You know, so yeah.
Speaker 2:While you were under, you have made several statements saying that keep talking to that person because there is something there that they're hearing and that to me feels like that. This was part of that journey for you back to the side.
Speaker 1:Yes, when somebody is in a coma. When I was in a coma I went in and out of my body and from what I understand I think in general people go in and out of their body Some people will walk down the hallway of the hospital that they're in. Some people will be over their body which I was over mine at one point in a procedure room, which I was over mine at one point when in a procedure room. I remember being out of my body and in a different dimensional realm, and then I heard singing and then it's like as quick as an atom, like as as an atomic particle moves. I was like back in my body in the hospital, hearing the and seeing everybody singing or not everybody, but there were a couple of people that were singing by my bedside some spiritual songs to me.
Speaker 1:So that's how we move, that's how we're meant to move. Actually is that freely and interdimensionally? We're interdimensional beings, but in that state, of course, you just automatically experience it. So it's important for people to keep talking and encouraging the people that are there praying for them, things like that, because you know, we hear it, we can see it, we hear it and it does encourage us to stay.
Speaker 2:I'm glad they kept you on and I'm glad they sang to you. Wasn't it your church friends that came and sang?
Speaker 1:for you. Yeah, it was a church actually that I used to go to.
Speaker 2:Really. Oh my goodness, that's how much people love you. That's awesome. Yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had um, they had heard and they came like um, you know, quite a few of them came and I had, like, family and friends in different countries even praying for me, um, and so I had a lot of people praying for me.
Speaker 2:That's because you're amazing and you were meant to be back here, right, you have this near death experience. You are on the other side, walk us through, when you realize because obviously that's probably black. And then, all of a sudden, you're you, you sort of awake, on the other side. What is? Walk us through that, and then, all of a sudden, you're you, you sort of awake, on the other side. What is?
Speaker 1:walk us through that, yeah, so I don't remember the time where you know where your eyes close and then you open.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, that's that blackness yeah Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah Then. So I I don't remember experiencing the blackness, I just remember I was in this world and all of a sudden I had a continuation in another world. And was in this world and all of a sudden I had a continuation in another world and that was like like I didn't know what happened, I didn't know, I thought that that was life and I thought that that was, you know, for a while, until I had three guides that kind of came forward and explained to me just different things about life. And also I had a lot of questions. Once I realized that I was in a different, you know, reality or a different. Um, I was in the spirit realm.
Speaker 1:I I had a lot of questions like tell me about this, I want to know why this is that way. And and one of the guides was answering my questions, but he didn't speak a lot, he was very, everything was telepathic, and so he would just kind of like say merge, and then I would merge into that thing or experience, and then through experiencing I would learn and understand, and then, you know, then I would be pulled out of that and then merge into something else. So that's everything was very like. The learning was not really with words or explanation. It was more experience and emotion and it's like you feel it in your soul, like your soul was just connecting immediately.
Speaker 2:Were you ever nervous or afraid or anything on that side?
Speaker 1:You know, like in all of the interviews I've done, nobody's ever asked me that.
Speaker 2:Well, because I'm sitting you just did it so perfect. I'm sitting in your shoes going. Damn I would. I would be like what. The F is going on, like what? And you see three people and you don't know them. I think one you had said was just from my previous interview looked like your daughter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, no, I'm blown away by the question because yeah, please answer. Yeah, it's simple, it's a simple question, but it's like yeah, that's right. Nobody like nobody asked you know if I was afraid, and it kind of speaks to some of the lessons that I learned. It's the simple things. That is really what life is about. We overcomplicate everything.
Speaker 2:Don't we.
Speaker 1:So I wasn't really afraid. I didn't feel any type of fear. I felt more curiosity and I felt love and. I felt some protection, Intrigued, you know like, with some of the things that I didn't necessarily understand, and there were some things that I didn't like. You know, like when I was seeing, I saw some prophetic things of the world, prophetic things about my life and different experiences. So those were more. I didn't really feel fear.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, because I think I don't. I mean, obviously I don't know how I would feel. I haven't gone through that. I think we're all afraid of dying know how I would feel. I haven't gone through that. I think we're all afraid of dying. Most of us who haven't gone through an NDE and it's it's, I will tell you after hearing your story and really feeling like I'm living through it with you because you, you know, are telling a great, great story, I don't have that fear as much as I used to Like. I'm like okay, okay, it's going to be okay.
Speaker 1:Elle said so but yeah, before that, before everything happened to me, I did have a fear of death and it was more, um like, of the experience. I don't have a fear of the experience of death any longer. I do have a fear of loss. You know FOMO. You know FOMO, you know, and that's because I have a child.
Speaker 2:Other than that, right right, right, right right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, other than that, I don't fear it.
Speaker 2:There's this quote that you said. That literally blew my mind and I'm like wow. So I'm going to say the quote and I want to talk about that just a little bit. And I'm gonna have you quote it because, basically, let me, let you. I don't know if you remember, but it was something about the spiritual world meeting the medical world and what that meant with the left and right hand. Do you remember that quote? You said, no, I don't. Oh God, it's so good, you should like coin it. Basically yeah, no, no joke. But basically what you said was the fact that the spiritual world and the medical world have all this angst and hatred sort of toward each other is like your left arm hitting your right arm. And I thought, oh my God, that was the point where I had that paradigm shift, saying, oh my goodness, I'm, it's okay for me to believe in the Bible, but also to believe in this too because it does.
Speaker 2:this is conflicting thing. It's like it's very conflicting for a lot of people, and especially someone who, like you, is very, you know, into your faith and then, having this experience and how you you've been able to bridge that gap in your own, in your own person, I wish, like a lot of us out there, I feel like it's. No, I don't believe in that. They don't even give it a chance.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm shamelessly dependent on God, meaning I'm the type of person's like God. Should I eat a sandwich today, girl?
Speaker 2:you are singing my song. I literally say that me too, like I'm all. I literally say god, I'm sorry, like I even say, and sometimes I'll talk to him full blown in the middle of the day going are you serious right now, like right?
Speaker 1:totally, when god literally does not care yeah, right, right.
Speaker 2:He's like do what you need to do free will dude dude Right Exactly.
Speaker 1:That being said, the science is the left hand and divinity is the right hand. If in spirituality is the right hand, if they got along, if they worked together, then our world would be advanced. We wouldn't have as many hurt people hurting people, which is, you know a lot of what happens in our world and we would be able to understand not only other people but our own power in a more direct way. Usually, we understand our power in indirect ways, through having a near death experience or, you know, completing a task that you know was elusive and something that we wanted to do, and or losing all the weight we wanted to. It's like all of these indirect ways that we find out our power. When you know we can, it can be so much more direct. You know, it's important to be able to explore both.
Speaker 1:There are people like Dr Evan Alexander. He was a neurosurgeon and he had a, you know, a near-death experience, or he experienced a near-death experience. And there are other. You know, after the first podcast that I did, ever, a doctor emailed me and said he had a near death experience and he hadn't spoken about it for like nine years. He was afraid to because it's it's a little taboo in the medical world to even think Right. Right, people could go through that and experience that.
Speaker 2:Right, right, you know, funny enough, when I was doing Ethereal Edge and really loving everything, I was learning that taboo. When I started Ethereal Edge, like I was, I said to them I'm going to a conference this weekend and I would tell my staff what I was, you know, going to do and they would just poke me and make fun of me. And I'm like you know, at first it was like, oh yeah, you know. Then, as I was like meeting people like you, I've been blown away. I'm like you. I feel like my eyes opened and my, my whole world opened, the, the loving God and Jesus, and then the woo, woo part of it.
Speaker 2:And I, and giving yourself permission to have both. So, speaking of woo, woo, I'd love you to get into, you know, seeing the Akashic Records and what that experience was like for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, before, when I'd heard about the Akashic Records, which I didn't really know much about, the Akashic Records before, all of that but I imagine a place of a hall of records like books and scrolls and things like that. For me, I saw, and I think it's different for everyone, just like the soul's experience is for everyone. For me it was more like a holodeck that you'd see on Star Trek, where you step into that period in time and then you learn, you go and found out after the fact that Nikola Tesla first stated that there was a hall of records based on Akasha, that existed scientifically in the universe and it was based on physics, not metaphysics. So you know, that's an example of like spirit and science. And and um, nikola Tesla said that he got a lot of information about his theories and experiences from the, the, a divine spirit, and from and from the Akashic records. So then I thought, okay, well, this is not that crazy, you know. So the Akashic records is interdimensional, so it's like records of not just what's happened in this dimension, but it's other dimensions as well.
Speaker 1:Now I will say that the church that I used to go to was very fundamental Christian and of course, they wouldn't think or talk anything about that, but I think with everyone, they have to explore for themselves what resonates that the Bible is very is filled with lots of depth, a lot of codes, a lot of like metaphors, and so everything is not always cut and dry. That's why there is that scripture, for example ask, seek and knock and the door will be open for you. Because, if you think of it, a door is a pathway to a new experience and understanding. So everyone has to kind of seek that out for themselves. It's a part of free will. Everyone has to kind of seek that out for themselves.
Speaker 2:It's a part of free will. Elle, you need to start your own church, the Church of Elle, because I would join it. I mean because you're right, like where I feel and I don't feel alone anymore. And I actually have another friend of mine who she's right like with me and you and I don't feel alone anymore because and I actually have another friend of mine who she's right like with me and you, uh, you and I, and she also is been, I say, awakened on the spirituality of the world and the next dimension and I firmly, truly believe and agree with you that we are a dimensional species here and that we all live in these different dimensions.
Speaker 2:I truly believe a lot of the things that I learned on the Ethereal Edge podcast, talking to people. There's no reason for them. I mean, truth be told I'll probably edit this out Truth be told, we had some friends on that. I was like I don't know about that. We had some friends on that. I was like I don't know about that, I'm not quite there yet. I'm not there yet, but I'm open to it.
Speaker 2:I'm like, if you would ask me 20 years ago, hey, you know what, you can send a song to China and it will get there in a nanosecond and they can listen to it. I'd be like you're out of your mind. What are you a witch? You're like, you know, like, but that's what we, that's what we do now, that's our world that we live in, and that's a whole other podcast. But yeah, I didn't know about the Akashic Records until I literally was starting to research when we met with you, and then, when you were talking about it, I was like, wow, that sounds really great. You should have asked for the lottery numbers while you were there. That's what I'm like. I'm just wondering what the lottery is going to be.
Speaker 1:Okay. So the first thing to know is that, I would venture to say, in about 10 to 15 years, money is not going to be a thing any longer.
Speaker 2:So we don't need the lottery numbers. And what is going to be in its place.
Speaker 1:We are going to go back to egalitarian system of kind of I wouldn't say like barter and trade. I don't know how to explain it, but it's more.
Speaker 2:It's almost a sustainability.
Speaker 1:It's almost a sustainability type thing. Yeah, it's kind of like everybody has what they need, but anything above that they just add into the system of our collective community. But everybody has what they need and it's not something that's earned, it's more something that's it's a right, a human right. So you have it.
Speaker 1:I don't exactly know how it's going to work, but that's one of the things that I did get told from a guide was that money was going to itself go away as a system. Just going back to and some of the reasoning of that is what I was saying about Nikola Tesla, if you think about it, what stood in the way from what he was sharing from a spiritual and physics and engineering perspective. He was sharing science and spirituality and he was a very ethical person. So the thing that got in the way from that being spread is money and greed. That's what shut everything down. We've gone through so many cycles of that where it's clear that money and greed is an opposing force and a dark force to a lot of good that we can achieve in the world. So ultimately it's going to go away.
Speaker 2:I would love that world and I look forward to it. So what is the last thing that you see or that you experienced before you come back to the other side?
Speaker 1:Different experiences. For example, in asking why there were certain, why the way, why the world was the way it was, I saw some corruption and some corruptive actions. I saw some you know some of this like seedier things, and then I would have like I would see the experience, my soul would be like, okay, that's enough. And then all of a sudden I was pulled out of that. Why?
Speaker 2:do you think they?
Speaker 1:showed you that, yeah, I was asking a lot of questions like why do people suffer here? Why is this happening here you, what's going on with this? And why is the structure the way it is? Why is the matrix this and that and the other? And so I was shown these different things to answer my question. I was also shown things that I didn't know that I might have. Maybe it was a subconscious question that I didn't really vocalize at the time, like I didn't know that. Everything was conscious, like you know, plants. So I was told to merge into a tree other life forms, like a lily and a fish, and experienced yeah, I experienced not myself myself, I actually was them. So, like I lost all sense of myself and became the fish. So I had like a fish mentality.
Speaker 2:Were you underwater with as the fish and it was like um, maybe you weren't a fish, maybe you were a mermaid, just kidding.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I was actually I was.
Speaker 2:I was a fish.
Speaker 1:It was like um, I was an orb that went like I possessed the fish. Oh okay, so, uh, so I understand when people get attachments. Or you know, whatever. Or the spirit is actually in an orb form, like that's actually our soul, like right in all of these, you know whatever. Or the spirit is actually in an orb form, like that's actually our soul, like right in all of these, you know, in that that circle, you know that's, that's what we are.
Speaker 1:What's next, a light panned around the room, forming a tunnel. It was a really bright light, and then it made like a tunnel shape and because my mindset was like everything was okay, I didn't think, oh, here it comes, this is the tunnel that they all talk about, that, you see, you're about to cross over. I didn't have any of those thoughts at all. I was just kind of, I felt like at peace and I felt like everything was fine either way. And so, um, I looked at the light and then my guide was standing with me there, like next to me, like we're about to go somewhere, and then, all of a sudden, you know, um, I was told it wasn't my time, and then the light, like unpan, like you know, reversed back around, and that was the last thing that I remembered, and then you woke up.
Speaker 1:You remember waking up. You know I remember a doctor. I remember the doctor like coming in at some point and I had a tracheotomy and you know I still have a the scar right here. So I wasn't able to speak right away. But I remember feeling very angsty when I, when I fully came to and when the tracheotomy was taken out, the doctor was snapping his fingers in my face and was saying you know, like say something. They wanted to see if my brain was working and everything else. And the doctor said say something. And I was really irritated and I said something. That's funny. My family in the room, somebody said oh, she's back. I don't remember who it was that said that. And then a couple of people laugh.
Speaker 2:Now you're back and I do want to talk about this briefly because it's really extraordinary, this whole thing that where you came from all the way to where you are now and I don't want to miss anything the next thing that happens, you have to learn how to walk and basically move again. Right, yeah, almost talk. You could talk a little bit. Walk me through that.
Speaker 1:So I had. I didn't know, like I said before to me, nothing had happened. I saw the whiteboard. You know where they write the nurses you know, information whatever. And it said like October something. And I went into the hospital in August. So I looked at one of my family and I was like I think it was my daughter. I said stop playing tricks on me, you know, change the date back. And they said no, that's the actual date. And I didn't believe them. And then she's my, my apologies.
Speaker 2:How long were you under?
Speaker 1:and then she's my.
Speaker 2:My apologies how long were you under? Um? I was under for two and a half months. Well, how did I not know that? From in my head it was like a week or something yeah, oh my goodness, like that's. So that's nuts. Imagine you go, you what you go. It's like it's winter, you wake up and it's summer. I mean it feels like that it was summer and I woke up and it was like fall. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And um so, um, um, my my daughter said no, mommy, that's the actual date. You've been in a coma for two and a half months. And then I just started crying because I didn't understand like it was just hitting me, and I looked at my body and my I had atrophy. You know how you're you lose all your muscle tone.
Speaker 1:So all of that, I looked down and then I started. It started clicking. Oh my gosh, you know I wasn't here. Gosh, you know I wasn't here. Then I had to recollect or make sense of the fact that I was somewhere else, and these people in front of me are not going to understand that. I was perfectly okay where I was. And now I'm here in this hospital. I couldn't walk. So I like tried to move and I wasn't able to. When I had the, the trach in, I went to try to write something and started crying because I couldn't write my name. So I was. It was kind of like a shock to me, like oh my gosh, what happened? Like why can't I write my name? In fact I saved that first little scribble, did you really? Yeah, that's when I tried to write my name. And then I started realizing you know, like how, the ramification how much damage was done and had to go through, learn how to walk again, learn how to write all of these things, and then having the PTSD from that too.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask you how long do you think you were in, how long do you think it took you to get back to being able to walk normally and write and sort of function.
Speaker 1:Well, they were forcing me. They were like you're going to get up and walk every day. It, I would say it took probably. I would say it took like maybe a month or two before I could really walk again with assistance.
Speaker 2:And you mentioned PTSD and I read one of your articles where you would get to that that fall season and every year you'd kind of get to this like PTSD, as would your family and your daughter like what's going to happen? Is it going to happen again? Oh my goodness. And then you walk me through what that felt like to you now celebrating life at that time because you know how far you've gone.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, that first year, that was difficult because, yeah, we were literally holding our breath. My daughter was holding her breath, I'm holding mine, wondering if anything's going to happen, if you know if something's gonna like like a shoe's going to drop right around that same time, because I had no treatment plan, I had no resolution and things like that. And that first year passed and okay, got through. Okay, here comes the second year, the second year okay, let's hope that it's not going to happen and then past that year and everything was fine.
Speaker 1:And part of the reason is because people who are on life support the statistics for people who live after they've been on life support are very low. Like, most people die within a year after being on ECMO because of all of the damage to your body. So I didn't like we were constantly running to the hospital for for every little thing because I didn't know if I was going to live a year. You know, past a year after being on ECMO, which is life support, I would say, like the first three years was, like you know, holding our breath right around that time.
Speaker 1:But after that was then I started to celebrate every year. You know that, uh, and, and my, my family, the first year they didn't even tell me the um, the date of my, what would have been my death date, which was like September 18th I think. So they just they kind of let it pass, but they were looking at me funny the whole time. And then, after the date passed, then they were like okay, yeah, yeah, and so, like they did tell me on the date, this is the date that you were supposed to die, so, but by that time it was like later in the day, so you know, but yeah, so, but now just kind of celebrate, now I don't even think about it. The past few years that date is coming down and I haven't even thought about it. Yeah, Until I brought it up.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I'm just kidding. Following this experience, you had a very big spiritual awakening.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, like I said, there was no real treatment plan. I felt like a lot of doctors were afraid of me after that and you know just, but not really giving any real solutions other than keep staying medicated, which I was not into doing. And so I started doing my own research and I started, you know, showing my research and saying, hey, this is a theory, I have what about this? And this is what I found and, you know, really starting to get some respect because they were some of them, starting to get some respect because they were some of them, the research I was presenting was valid.
Speaker 1:I started to get more support and I started to follow through on some of the things that I was researching and one of my doctors said, you know, you'd be a really good doctor, you should go into medicine. And I was like I don't like doctors, so, but then I said I love the whole process of researching and I like the nerdy parts. So I said, you know, maybe it's something that I would, would would pursue. And I had three doctors write me recommendation letters for school and then I started I'm about to graduate in one program this year, this fall, and I still have more to continue to get to the MD level, but at least this one program will be over and I'll be specialized in pharmacogenetics, which is the first part of my path on the genetics path.
Speaker 2:That's what I decided to go to pursue, so yeah, how many years does it take for you to get where you need to be?
Speaker 1:um, it's gonna take me about three or four more years, depending on that eight that's wonderful, oh, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:That's just amazing and to I mean, honestly, I my eyes are. I didn't know. It was two months to go from your that you were supposed to die. They're fighting for you, literally fighting for your life, and and then here you are. Let's switch gears just for a second. What are your hopes for the future? And you had mentioned that we're about to evolve into a different type of society. What are your hopes for the future and for the world?
Speaker 1:Starting at the core of things is that people start to realize their own personal power. I think that it starts there. Everybody needs to realize the depth of how amazing they are and just how beautiful they are as a human being and how powerful they are as a human being, and start honoring their lives that way, doing things that matter and focusing our intention on things that matter. So if you and I do it, that's two of us, and then we talk to others, then others will join and then others and others, and that's kind of how a society shifts, and so that's the first thing.
Speaker 1:My hope for you know for just us as a collective in general, know for just us as a collective in general is that we start to realize that we're all connected to each other, and we're connected in a spiritual and scientific way, like physics wise. We are actually connected energetically. We're connected DNA wise as well, and so how do you treat the people that you're connected to? How do you feel about them? How do you work together with them? You know, how do you bounce your energy off of the other person? Those are the things that we feel when we connect with somebody who energetically aligns with us. It's a real thing, it's actual energy, and so how do we, on you know, understanding how to honor that and then put it into practice in our lives?
Speaker 2:That is exactly why I started this podcast. I my biggest thing is I want people to understand how amazing they are, and there are some people out there I was one of them back when I was younger so lost and so like scared and not knowing and and just I guess, just knowing what you just said that we are all connected. You are never alone. If you just ask, you will receive, and if that is help, if that is love, if that is a hug, whatever it is, and it's like that whole manifestation thing, but literally I feel like God, source, alien. Whatever you believe in, if you ask, you'll get it back and it's going to be okay.
Speaker 2:I love the church of El. I love it. I'm not even kidding. I want to help you write a book because I love I honestly love the way you think and I wish everyone did Like I really believe that if we could just take your little brain and then like, throw it out to the universe so we all get better. But yeah, okay. So I always like to end things with, uh, a little rapid fire, fun questions to end on a high note and uh, so I have a couple of weird questions and just whatever comes to your brain. Here it is. So what is your favorite comfort food? Cheese? Oh, me too. Grilled cheese, freaking fondue love cheese very aged cheese.
Speaker 2:Okay, what is your favorite smell?
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna say lavender, because there's so many. My favorite smells that I'm just gonna say lavender love it mine's grass.
Speaker 2:Isn't it weird? It reminds me of playing soccer.
Speaker 1:I like another smell. I love petrichor. That is, petrichor is the scent of how dirt smells, right when it's first starts raining. Really, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's so crazy. That's so crazy. Yeah, no, mine is a fresh cut grass. Reminds me of playing soccer when I was younger. It was my happiest, that was. My happy place was playing soccer. So well, I'll thank you so much for coming in and being a part of the little edgy and ageless family here, and I am so, of course. Yes, I'm so honored. I love, I just love you. You're so amazing. Again, the church of Val. If there's anything you want to, anything and everything about Elle will be in the description, meaning her books, her book, any articles she was going to share, how to get in touch with her. All those things will be in the description and until then, thank you, elle. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me, tracy, you bet, and I really appreciate it.