Murder under Gaslight
True stories of murder in Victorian era Ireland.
Come with us as we travel back to Victorian Ireland and delve into mysteries and murders that enthralled and terrified Ireland in a time where forensic science was in its infancy.
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Murder under Gaslight
Episode 13- The servant who boiled the truth- The Richmond Murder- 1879
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In the summer of 1879, the quiet respectability of Richmond was shattered by a crime so brutal it stunned Victorian Britain. When the remains of wealthy widow Julia Martha Thomas were discovered scattered and burned, suspicion fell on her seemingly unremarkable Irish servant, Kate Webster — a woman with a past as dark as the Thames itself. What followed was a tale of deception, audacity, and cold‑blooded violence, culminating in one of the most sensational trials of the age.
How did a servant with nothing to her name manage to outwit neighbours, pawnbrokers, and even the police — if only for a moment? And what drove her to commit one of the most gruesome murders of the Victorian era?
Step back into the gaslit streets of Richmond as we unravel the chilling story of Kate Webster, the woman who shocked an empire.
Welcome to Murder Under Gaslight. Your guide to Victorian Era Island's most gruesome crimes. Your host is Don Mortel.
SPEAKER_02There's something on the stove in a quiet house in Richmond. In eighteen seventy nine. It's not food. At least not in any normal sense. Outside everything is calm, respectable. Just another evening in a well to do part of London. But inside, something has gone very, very wrong. A woman moves through the house carefully, calmly. She's wearing clothes that don't belong to her, living a life that isn't hers, and she's trying methodically to make sure no one ever finds out what happened there. But she slips just once, and that's all it takes. Because this isn't just a murder story. It's something colder than that. And at the centre of it is an Irish woman who thought she could start again. This is murder under gaslight, and this one feels a bit closer to home than most. Because although I'm recording this here in Ireland, I was actually born in London, and that's where this story begins. Richmond, to be precise, 1879. Now, if you picture Victorian London, you probably think of fog, gaslight, maybe a bit of Dickensian grit, and you wouldn't be wrong. But Richmond that was different. Quieter, more respectable. The kind of place where people felt safe, which is exactly why what happened there hit so hard. London at this time was crowded, growing fast and full of contrasts. You had wealth and comfort on one side, and real hardship on the other. And in between those worlds were servants, thousands of them. Mostly women, and a huge number of those women were Irish. They'd come over looking for work for stability, sometimes just for survival, but they weren't always welcomed. There was suspicion, prejudice, a sense that they didn't quite belong. And into that world walks Kate Webster. Kate Webster, real name Catherine Lawler, was from County Wexford. Rural background, tough upbringing, and by the time she was a teenager, she was already in trouble with the law. Petty theft mostly. But it wasn't a one-off. It became a pattern. Eventually, like a lot of Irish migrants at the time, she made her way to England. And she found work the same way many did. Domestic service. Moving from house to house, job to job, never really settling. Now the woman she ended up working for is Julia Martha Thomas. She's older, mid-50s, twice widowed, living alone in Richmond, and by all accounts she's respectable, religious, proper, but also not easy. She had a reputation for going through servants fairly quickly, which should probably have been a warning sign. But in early 1879, she hires Kate Webster, and that decision does not end well. From the start things aren't great, they clash a lot. Webster drinks, she pushes back, she doesn't follow instructions. Thomas tries to dismiss her more than once. But for whatever reason, she lets her stay on a bit longer. And then we get to march second, eighteen seventy nine. A Sunday. Julia Thomas goes out to church that evening. When she comes back, something kicks off inside the house. We don't know every detail for certain, but we know enough. There's an argument, it turns physical, and at some point, Webster kills her. Whether she pushed her down the stairs or strangled her, that part shifts depending on the account. But the outcome doesn't. Julia Martha Thomas dies in her own home. Now, here's where the case becomes something else entirely. Because Webster doesn't panic. She doesn't run. She stays. And over the next few days she does something that shocked even Victorian London. She dismembers the body. Boils it down. Gets rid of what she can, piece by piece. Some of it ends up in the Thames, some of it is never found. And there's even a claim never fully proven, but widely reported at the time that she passed off fat from the body as dripping. Now whether that's true or not, it tells you how the public saw this case. It horrified people. But this is the part I always find almost more unsettling. She doesn't just cover it up. She steps into Julia Thomas' life. She wears her clothes. She presents herself as her. She sells off her belongings, she even gets helped disposing of packages without anyone realizing what they are. It's bold.
SPEAKER_01Almost unbelievably so. And for a short time it works. But not for long. People start to notice things that don't quite add up.
SPEAKER_02The story doesn't hold, and Webster knows it. So she does what a lot of people in her position might have done. She leaves. And she heads back to Ireland. Back to Wexford. But here's where the Irish connection really comes into focus because this isn't just a woman going home. This becomes part of the story. In the newspapers, in public opinion, she's not just a suspect. She's an Irish suspect. And that mattered in 1879. There was already a lot of tension between Britain and Ireland, and cases like this fed into existing stereotypes. The idea of the dangerous outsider, the untrustworthy servant. It's uncomfortable, but it's important to acknowledge because it shaped how this case was understood at the time. Webster doesn't stay free for long. She's arrested in Ireland and brought back to London, put on trial at the Old Bailey, and the evidence against her is strong. Witnesses recovered remains, her own inconsistent statements. She tries to shift blame at one point, but it doesn't work.
SPEAKER_01The jury doesn't take long. Guilty.
SPEAKER_02She's sentenced to death, and in a final attempt to delay things, she claims she's pregnant. It's a known tactic at the time, but it doesn't hold up under examination. And on july twenty ninth, eighteen seventy nine, she's executed at Wandsworth Prison. In the end, she confesses. But even after that, the story isn't quite finished because one part of Julia Thomas is still missing. Her head, and it stays missing for over a century. Then, in 2010, during building work in Richmond, a skull is found. Buried on what used to be part of the property, and testing confirms it. It's Julia Martha Thomas. After more than 130 years, the last piece is finally found. So what do we do with a case like this? It's brutal, obviously. But it's also about more than that. It's about movement between Ireland and Britain, about class, about identity, about how people are seen and judged. Kate Webster was Irish. That shaped how people viewed her, but it doesn't explain what she did. That part is hers alone. And I keep coming back to this idea that this story sits between two places London where it happened, and Ireland, where part of it leads. I was born in one. I live in the other. And cases like this, they remind you how closely connected those histories really are. Next time we step back into the shadows, once again, another story, another case, another truth. Waiting under the gaslight. Until then, stay curious.
SPEAKER_00Murder under gaslight is a West Meath Pocket cinema production. Historical advisor is Jason McKevin. Murder Under Gaslight is presented by Donald McKevin.