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50. Taking Pride in the Work with Brian Woods

Griffin Hahn & Andrea Meier Episode 50

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Andrea and Griff are joined by Brian Woods, who gives some great insight into a day in the life of a mixer driver. We talk about efficiency, cleanliness, safety, and meeting customer expectations.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to Load It, the Hahn Ready Mix podcast with Andrea Meyer, Griffin Hahn, and producer Lex.

SPEAKER_03

We also have a special guest today, Brian Woods. Welcome to the pod. Thank you. How are you guys doing? Doing great.

SPEAKER_00

We are happy you're here.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. The Olympics start today. Do you guys watch the winter leaps? It was yesterday. Or did was it today? Yeah, I think they started like some of the curling and stuff yesterday. But I think the opening ceremonies, everything, are today. Yeah. You guys do you guys watch it?

SPEAKER_01

They had Snoop Doc carrying out the torch or something on something. In Italy?

SPEAKER_05

It's an honorary coach or something. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, no. I didn't see any of that yet. But my husband is leaving today. He's going to the Olympics.

SPEAKER_03

What? I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. He gets to travel for work and they happen to be in Italy, and his company has uh tickets or whatever to see in the hockey games.

SPEAKER_03

So that's so cool. That's so cool. Somehow I'm like gotten addicted to watching cross-country skiing at the Olympics, which the U.S. is not very good at, unfortunately, normally. But it's just it's actually really enthralling to watch. And they they have nothing left. Nothing left in the tank more than any other sport I've ever seen when they cross the line.

SPEAKER_00

So it's just you know what's funny. I saw that last night at the junior high swim team practice. They had nothing left at the end of their hour of swim team.

SPEAKER_05

Man, to work at the math least. Because you were yelling at them or what?

SPEAKER_00

I was just watching through the window, but they were they were gassed by the end of the swim practice.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I I found that pretty entertaining too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Cool. All right. What announcements do we have for today?

SPEAKER_00

Um, it is February. It is time to do our wellness checkups for everybody. And I have those dates here for for drivers. Don't worry about it. Chris and Dispatch will send out the schedule and get everybody here when they need to be here. But just so you kind of have these ideas in mind. Um, February 17th, we're going to be in Muscatine. The 20th, which is Friday, we're going to be here in Davenport. That's where we get the bulk of them out of the way. And then the 24th, we'll be in Geneseo. And then we'll do it again the next Friday in Davenport, just in case we missed anybody that first time on the 20th.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. That's all you got?

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, I had a couple announcements. I was really proud of our team. The month of January, we had zero rejected loads. And I'm I'm not certain of this, but I think we've never gone through a whole month without a single rejected load. So I think that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00

Especially a month when we were frozen solid and doing concrete.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we were pouring concrete at five degrees and had no rejected loads.

SPEAKER_00

So I think that a truck that broke down and couldn't get out. Yeah. Like that is it's astonishing.

SPEAKER_03

Astonishing. So um very proud of everybody and nice work on all the effort it took to get to achieve that. So that was great. Similarly, we made it to Friday, January 30th, before we had our first coachable event on Samstara. So we almost made it a whole month without a single coachable event on Samstara, which with you know slick roads and and not great visibility sometimes, you know, I'm also surprised uh with that. So that that's also wonderful. So just wanted to tell everybody I appreciate that and all the hard work that came into that. And it's it's really great.

unknown

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Look at you celebrating already this year. Yes, look at that. Just your res resolution for this year to celebrate more.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00

All right, good. Well, let's talk to Brian.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, wait, hold up. Hold up. I forgot. Producer Lex has an announcement he won't do.

SPEAKER_02

I think we've brought this up before, but we've talked about idling trucks before. Especially in the winter, we see bigger issues show up with idling trucks because they don't create enough heat to burn off all the new DEF system. So when it's cold as it is right now, we need to make sure we're not idling our trucks because we get buildup in their trucks and then we go into D-rate, and we have all these issues. I don't really know how to explain it better to say.

SPEAKER_00

So not not idling them longer than we absolutely have to. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

So if we're sitting for an hour or something, we need to probably turn off our trucks.

SPEAKER_00

It's a bad idea to come in in the morning and start your truck and let it sit there for an hour. That's that's what I heard.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yeah, kind of the opposite of what you think with a regular vehicle. Now, I don't I don't want anybody to be sitting in a frozen truck when it's five degrees, right? So if it's a truck off, like uh if you do that, you come inside to the batch office or whatever, you know. So let's let's use common sense with it. But yeah, it's good. Aaron Powell How long do you think it needs to be shut down? Uh I think it's all about just not running it cold. Or not, you know, not if you're gonna have the the the engine running, we want it to be moving and hot, right?

SPEAKER_00

So tricky with these new fancy trucks.

SPEAKER_03

Well, thank you, producer slash mechaniclex.

SPEAKER_00

We're clearly the experts in here.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yeah. The stuff doesn't uh yeah I give Lex credit though.

SPEAKER_00

He asked the questions to understand where I just took the message of move the truck. Okay, move the truck.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Lex tried to understand. We appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03

Good. All right, Brian, should we dive in? Yeah, let's go. Well, thank you so much for being on here. Let's start. Just tell us a little bit about your background. Where are you from? What did you do before you came here? You've been here 10 and a half years, right? Yeah. Yeah. So uh just tell us your story a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

Born in Davenport, Iowa, been here my whole life, worked at Hun office furniture down in Muscatine for about almost I think eight, nine years, became uh a lead supervisor there. Before that, I had was at into uh restaurants.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Uh I became a manager there, did that at IHOP, became a manager supervisor. Then I went over to uh Hun. And then when I left there, actually, I went to Ralston Peren.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Uh did that for a couple years and hated it. The hours were just excruciating. It was just horrible. Um, made a lot of money. Yeah. That's when I got off into went and got my class A's. Did that for about six months, didn't like being on the road. Uh then Han came. I seen Han and uh I came here. Nice. And when I came here, uh I can't remember his name. Was it Dre trained me? Oh, okay. And I remember when I started, that's the first day I met Brian from uh Valley, I think it was. Oh yeah. Oh God, it was horrible. Uh and he uh didn't want me to drive because I was a trainee. Yeah. And uh Dre told him he's gonna drive anyway. And uh I remember that and I was nervous and I said, Man, you sure you want me to do this? Because he don't want me to do it. He said, You do it anyway. I think we were doing a job up at West High School, if I can believe. After about three days, uh I was ready. Yeah. Um, it didn't take me long to catch on, but I enjoyed it. You know what I mean? I took a liking to it. And I remember and I remember Larry telling me, uh, he looked at me and he says, And I was like, why would he want me to slow down? I said, is he is he hating on me or does he, you know, he don't want me to go this fast? Because I took he, but didn't take he because I move at a certain pace.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

When I got into it, man, it's it's it's just been perfect for me. Uh I like the job. I like what I do. And I think that makes a difference. Married, uh, had my wife here, she was employed here. You guys gave her an opportunity and she's went and flourished from it, opportunity for her. So, you know, her husband good.

SPEAKER_03

Good. You know, you talk about IHOP, and my biggest thing that comes to my mind is like how when you work at an IHOP, do you see like one one pancake for the customer, one for you? Like how how do you like it?

SPEAKER_05

Man, listen, it was uh we ate good.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05

Any any anything that came over that didn't they didn't want, yeah, it got ate.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. I would yeah, I would be huge if I actually do. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't I worked for Cracker Barrel's home office for a little while and we trained managers on how to cook everything in the kitchen. So everything they made, we had to eat. But the best part of it was you have access to everything on the menu, but you can make it exactly how you want it. And so now I think that every time I go to a restaurant, I'm like, I don't want what's on the menu. I want this combination of what I want.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, absolutely. Well, you you spoke to it a little bit already, but so so 10 and a half years, you said you loved it, but what's really kept you in this industry? What's kept you here at Han over that that a lot of that amount of time? Because it's not very common for people to spend that much time in this role.

SPEAKER_05

For me, it's been uh it always has to do with the company, right? And it has to do well, how do you feel about your job? The company's been great, right? I haven't had no, you know, when you uh go through uh changes in your life and your company is there for you, that that means something, right? It's it's easier for me to uh a lot of people talk about money, right? We love money, we always want more money. But I've learned even when I was a manager, when you treat people good and you and you care about them, and they'll forget about how much money they make and that won't be the issue. Right when you when you show your appreciation. Yeah and that's what uh has been done here. Good. Uh I remember uh Brian Hunn walked up to me and actually shook my hand and uh and commented on on some things I've been doing. That that's a rarity for the the owner himself to come and do that. And that made a difference because he said we want this to be a family here. Yeah. So that that kind of stick and stays. Then me too, man. I just don't like jumping around. When I get somewhere, I like to stick and stay, right? Yeah. But it's been a venture for me, and it's been uh some things that keep me here, the company in itself.

SPEAKER_03

That's great to hear. That's really great to hear. That's what we want, right? It's is to everybody to have that experience, feel like um they're part of the family and and that they're valued because they are, you know. And so that that's wonderful to have that. You're definitely one of the most efficient in all phases of your role, right? And in getting started in the day, at the end of the day, between loads, getting to and from a job site.

SPEAKER_00

This is what I was looking at before we came in here. Okay so last year over 860 loads he did.

SPEAKER_03

That's a lot, Ryan.

SPEAKER_00

And consistently had one of the cleanest trucks across the board, and his end-of-day time averaged 28 minutes. Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. So, like what how do you do that?

SPEAKER_05

You know, it's uh uh it's like when I wake up in the morning, like I'm here early, right? I'm always here early. And I sit in the car or I I always give myself time to get here to get my mind focused. For me, it's uh it's more than just a job, right? This is what I do. And for me, my purpose is to go out and make money, right? So I can get money. So if I have, I feel like if I put in the work and then I come to Griffith and say, hey man, it's like a respect level for for me, right? I thrive on that, right? I thrive on being the best at what I do. You got pride in it, yeah. Prideful, and it and it and it hasn't wavered, right? It gets stronger like every day. Like, like I feel like you should be able to do ever all phases of the job. Yeah. I feel like you should be able to keep your truck clean. I feel like you should be safety-minded. I feel like you should be able to get up on your truck and and wash it down at a precise time. I feel like you should be able to uh rinse your truck out, wash it out at the end of the day, do your post trip and get off the clock. I don't believe in wasting time. Yeah. Right? I'm I'm very concrete on that. Because it's like No pun intended. No pun intended on nobody. However, however, everybody does it is what they do, right? I'm just talking about what drives Brian, right? I take a lot of pride in um uh a fast turnaround without uh the being unsafe about it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know what I mean? So, like you're you said you'd spend some time in your car. What's the rest of your like morning routine look like to get you off on the right? Ooh, I stop, I get me a red bull.

SPEAKER_05

Well, that's part of it. Don't like it. CB on me. Uh I stop and get my red bull. I come in, I do my pre-trip, uh, start my truck up, set in the truck after it gets together. I always clock in about five minutes, you know, the five minutes grace period. Yeah. I'm always at that five minutes grace period when it allows me in. Um I make sure, first I make sure my truck's together. So it's all together. And then I come over and and go in service. Uh sometimes it might go over a little bit, but I pretty much try to get in service at a precise time. Uh I remember one time I had a situation where I got in service before an individual that was had more time than me, and he didn't like that. So I think I called uh this fast and told him, Whatever you do, don't load me before you. Because he was like, What how you get before me? I don't like to waste time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I just like to get it. Well, that's very evident. I mean, everybody you we're not out there every morning or whatever, but we can tell. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

Um but it ain't based on what anybody else, as far as what anybody else do. Yeah. That's that that's what they do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're focusing on yourself. Yeah, on me. Sure. All right. What about when you get to a job site? What's the first things you're kind of looking for when you arrive on a site?

SPEAKER_05

Where do I go? Looking for somebody's eyes or hands, uh, one of the contractors to kind of give me an idea where to be. If there isn't another truck there. If there's another truck there, then I take the lead off of him. I'll observe his truck, see how many shoots he has on. Yeah. I get out, I I I turn my water on, I drop my shoot. If he got two chutes on, if if I can put them on and not be in the way of anything, I'll go ahead and put them on. Sometimes I'll walk over and ask them, hey, what you doing, what slumped does he got? Or I'll look at the load so I can have it slumped and ready for him at that point. Sometimes that don't work. Sometimes I'll just wait too, because they might want this load to be a little drier. Yeah, if they're pulling some curb off or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And make sure that that where I'm going, that I can get there without any issues.

SPEAKER_03

Good. What about when you're when you're dealing with customers? What are your kind of tactics for you have great relationships with many of our customers, right? That's that's obvious. So what have you done or how do you connect with them to build that kind of mutual respect?

SPEAKER_05

Aaron Powell Well, after 10 and a half years, I had to work on Brian to get that together. Because sometimes we go in thinking we know it. And I had to learn how when you're dealing with contracts with the customer, it's how they want it. Yeah. So that's the mindset I go in. However he wants it, however wet he wants it, however dry he wanted, wherever he wanted, I got to give it to him. He wants it slow, fast. I kind of focus on that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Which is sometimes hard to do, right? You think you have a better idea.

SPEAKER_05

Over the time, right? Yeah, yeah. Because I've uh I've been frustrated, you know what I mean, and irritated. And you have to uh kind of pull yourself away from the personal part. And it's different for other people, right? There's some things that's who that you like, man, did that really just happen? No, I mean I'm just trying to do my job. Yeah. And uh, because some people don't know how to leave personal things at home, they bring them to work, but yeah. And that's what I work on not doing. Yeah. So then I can deal with you with this situation. But it took some time for that. That's not nothing. You you learn that along the way, right? They said when I first started, you gotta have thick skin for this job, and that's a fact.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for sure. Well, I think you do a really good job deflecting that. But I, you know, I think as you build those relationships, that all gets so much easier because you're not an easy target if they know you and respect you and know what you're about and that you're there to do a good job. You know, it's not like um, you know, like you were telling the story of your first day, you know, your first time driving. That's an easy target, right? So um, so yeah, so it it it can be really tough at the beginning for sure. But yeah, that that time and that mutual respect to build uh makes a big difference.

SPEAKER_05

And then once you build it, you just kind of you keep it that way, right? You remember, you put in your dialogue of, you know, this is how I pour for him, this is what he likes, uh, he appreciates this, you know what I mean? And it feels good too when you walk away and they say, Hey man, when I pull up, they do, you know, and then I've got cocky ear again. It's just, man, I'm glad to see you. Yeah. You know, and that makes you want to do a better job. Absolutely. And give it all you got. You know what I mean? Because you think who said this to me? Uh somebody told me, well, you only be there with them for 10 to 15 minutes out the day. So just make it work. You know what I mean? You might not come back and pour for them again for another two months. Right. But it's all about the customer satisfaction. You know what I mean? Because I know that affects everything that we do. Yeah. Like you said, it everything has to line up. Yeah. And it's not hard to do.

SPEAKER_03

What about um safety? What what goes through your head from a safety perspective as you go through your day? Like, is it I guess has there ever been a situation where you've like pulled the plug on a poor and been like, that this isn't this isn't good, this isn't safe, we're not gonna do it. You know, oh yeah. I've done that.

SPEAKER_05

Um I I think one guy don't even want me to come to the war because and I can't even remember the poor. I I can't remember, I know who it is, but I won't mention his name. Uh it was a situation like that where it was a bad, and I think Gary came out, rest in peace, and got everything together. But I really don't think there's a poor that I've actually well, I take that back. Uh I had an incident over at Batador where we he wanted me to pour it, and I seen myself sliding and I addressed him and said, Hey man, I don't think this is a good idea. He got very uh irate and very disrespectful. I called and I won't leave the poor unless you guys tell me to leave the poor. Yeah. You know, if you want me to stay there and wait for somebody to come and finish the poor, that's fine. Some situations you just have to uh No, I had to buy my tongue, you know what I mean? And I had to walk away, you know the incident, you took care of it. I know my truck. That's why I get out and I walk around, and that's what they tell you. Get out and walk around and just see. And sometimes some contractors get upset, they think you're wasting time. And for me, if I can see where I'm going, then I can get there better. Yeah. Right. Yeah, them type of situations, you just I don't even think you prepare yourself for them because you wouldn't expect expect it to happen. You wouldn't expect people to get that upset that they do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, it it's important that the job we do is is not without danger, right? And so you going home at the end of the day in the manner in which you came is the most important thing. And you know, and on top of that, it's an expensive piece of equipment, right? So taking care of yourself and and the truck and is is important and more important than whatever the 15 minutes it takes to figure out the situation.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but I think sometimes too, excuse me, sometimes too, we'd be we'd be focused on the business aspect of it too, right? Yeah. You don't want to rub somebody the wrong way because you know this is your bread and butter. Yeah. You gotta be able to make a judgment call that's gonna not only that won't hurt the company. Yeah. And I think sometimes that's the difficult part of it, right? Because you're still a man, you're still a person, and you still demand a certain amount of respect. Yeah. Right. And safety is something I just refuse to uh to cross for the sake of.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. No, I I love hearing that. That's that's what we want. We don't want anybody to knowingly you know, there's sometimes you can't you can't see something or you don't know something's there, but we never want to knowingly put ourselves in harm with harm's way. That's just not okay. All right, let's change topics a little bit. Let's talk about truck cleanliness. Like Andrew mentioned, you keep one of the cleanest trucks in the fleet. Why is that important to you?

SPEAKER_05

It's important, but every aspect of the job is important. Yeah. And I think that's where some miss the ball, right? If you keep your truck clean all during the day, then I won't have a problem at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You we've talked before about spending a couple minutes every load saves 45 minutes at the end of the day, right? And and you end up ahead of the game. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

And and that's a it's a priority, but it's like the whole job is a priority, right? My whole method is not to let build up get on my truck. The shining and all that stuff, that's a whole different atmosphere. But keeping that concrete from building up, keeping it from getting in them rollers, keeping it from getting on there and just leaving it, that's just to me, that's just like that's a neglect. It doesn't have to be because we still got time in the day to get that together. Yeah. Right? The easiest place to do it is a central mix plant. Yeah. It's not an issue river planting here. The most difficult is the dry plants. But even with that being said, once you hit it because it's powder, it's coming off. Right. I think to me personally, I believe buildup comes from just you neglecting your truck. And that's not no shade on anybody. That's just what I've learned since I've been here. Yeah. Right. I watched Larry, so I watched the best. Yeah. Right. And I never watched, he never sweated over his truck.

SPEAKER_03

We've talked about it before, but he just kept it. He went home cleaner than he came to work.

SPEAKER_05

I I tried that.

SPEAKER_03

It never worked.

SPEAKER_05

It's never worked. And I just think it goes back to to w what you take pride in. Yeah. You know what I mean? So for me, is is all aspects of it and and and keeping the truck together is is is a is a plus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What I see with you in particular in your truck and you take care of yourself, right? And you take care of your workplace. Like that you that's where you have to be all day and you want it to be somewhere nice and and that shows in how you take care of it.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. I appreciate that. You talked a little bit about difficult situations. Is there been kind of a a singular moment where you you said that you had to learn that skill on how to just kind of keep your mouth shut, you know, or if you know or or or de-escalate, right? Is there been like a singular moment that taught you how to do that or or where you learned that lesson?

SPEAKER_05

I believe it just came with uh sometimes you gotta open your ears and hear somebody else's opinion even when you don't want to. That's I think the most difficult part is for someone to to scrutinize the way you responded. You know I ain't no young chick so I've been around so uh my biggest thing was for you for young people to tell me you know I mean and but I had to learn how to think about it before I respond. And like I said it goes back to me how it's gonna affect everything. Not just me today, how it's gonna affect everything. Yeah. I've always liked to get m my point across and I had to learn along the way how sometimes you don't have to have the last word right you just got to okay you're right. Now I my thing is I tell contractors man as long as you're talking and and yelling and screaming you're gonna make me more jittery and we're gonna make more mistakes. Yeah. That's it so just calm down or let somebody else run it, we can get this done. Yeah. It's exactly how you want it. Yeah. And that's what I had to learn that it's how they want it. It's it's their concrete. It just took some time I don't think it's one certain thing that that I learned that taught me that. I just think over time I had to learn how to uh to keep my cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then I seen some others blow up and then I said man is that how I act yeah yeah well I think you I think you go through you go through examples like that where you see how your reaction engages them further and then you test it out and you see oh when I do this this sort of takes the wind out of their sails and you know knocks them off their game a little bit where they calm down too. So I think it's kind of a trial and error thing with people. And some people learn quicker some people take take longer but I think the most successful people all get to that point.

SPEAKER_05

But I also too one incident now that I'm thinking was the one at Purina. Yeah that was an eye opener for me. That's where I knew I had growth. Something has to happen for that light to click on yeah and when he addressed me the way he did and said the things he said and it it wasn't so much that he said it there but when he had made the call and said the same thing. But it was it it solidified everything. It was good on my that he did that but for me to be able to walk away and then when I came in and Andrea talked to me and and commended me on how I conducted it that made a difference right it makes a difference where if your team and your management appreciate what you done yeah and you know that goes that could have escalated to a whole nother level if if you would have engaged on that it could have been terrible. Yes. So that that was one moment to where I said man I can do this. I've grown yeah you know and it felt good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah you know I mean we've talked about a ton of the things here but what what advice would you have that we haven't talked about already for a new driver that wants to be successful here? Like what what do you think separates a a great driver from a good one?

SPEAKER_05

A good driver would just do what's necessary. Yeah. A great driver would go over and beyond right that means he would take more time to do better at what he's doing right he'll go seek advice from one. He'll take advice from uh the drivers um I experienced something here not too long ago when I gave a new driver advice and he automatically flipped me off and you know you don't tell me how to do my job. For new drivers to me they gotta be willing to uh to listen yeah and take criticism and allow us the ones that's been here that's willing to help them to do and and and and give them some guidance and lead them and don't take it so personal.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

When I started that's what I did. I listened I I was I I took criticism I was willing to do that. And and when you're a new driver I think that's the biggest thing that they don't want to accept. They'll tell you they want it but then when you give it to them Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well I I don't think there's any such thing as like a great first year driver, right? It takes a long time to get really good at this job. It just does. There's so many varied experiences and demands and every job site's a little different that there's no way to be awesome at it all right away. So so yeah that it's definitely important to be willing to take feedback and and see that you know someone like you is coming from a place of I want to try to help you trying to you know make you better and so yeah that's great. All right I got a couple quick hitters for you just some kind of fun questions. Okay. Uh what's your favorite and least favorite type of pour my least wheelburrows.

SPEAKER_05

Wheelbarrows yeah because they're so time consuming too slow for you. Yeah it slows A on everything. Yeah and more of a five gallon bucket guy I've done them oh gosh yeah wheelburrows and uh small loads yeah tough yeah them's the ones that take the longest out of the day yeah the three yard load would take you hours and then you can you know I like to run.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I'm assuming you're you you like the the big paving jobs and stuff is your favorite. Yes, yeah. Yes paving yeah blow and go. Yeah. Blow and go. Yep. All right. When you're driving around you got music, silence, talk radio, loaded podcast what are you listening to? Jazz.

SPEAKER_05

I'm jazz I'm jazz man uh some Luther and you know I mean I I stuff that mellows me down keeps me at peace. I can't yeah I can't do rah-rah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah I'm already oh here I was picturing like upbeat fast music keeping you on pace.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah I'm already Kenny K playing the saxon in there I already read books so I'm I need something to kind of keep me at even key.

SPEAKER_03

I think I know the answer to this one but uh you like early starts better or l or late days that go later early. Early yeah yeah yeah okay when I get a 755 I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_05

I'm up at four right my dog loves it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Breakfast early. Yeah. Yeah. All right last question that came I can't remember who said it the other day when we said you were going to have you come on, but uh I'm just curious how did the Cowboys do in the NFL this year?

SPEAKER_05

Must have been a Bears fan that said that we didn't do too good. I think we have a better season well that's what all fans believe that their team was going to do better than this year.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah exactly yeah it's a well this has been a ton of fun and very informative and I hope that everybody listening can take something away to to help them be better. And so really appreciate you coming on and uh we'll have you back sometime. All right sounds good. Thank you guys appreciate it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks Brian and thanks everyone for listening to Loaded the Hahn Ready Mix podcast. We'll talk to you again next week

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