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The Mayor's Mixtape-Episode 46

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Mayor Heather Graham hosts At-Large City Councilor Brett Boston on the 46th episode of the Mayor's Mixtape. Councilor Boston shares why he chose to get involved with politics, what it's like to be the youngest elected City official and why he values his Boards and Commissions seats while serving on Council. Learn about his goals for the future and how Mayor Graham and City Council intend to collaborate together and with other community partners.

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Haley Sue Robinson:

Okay. Welcome to the 46th episode of the Mayor's Mixtape. I'm Haley Sue Robinson, Director of Public Affairs.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

I'm Heather Graham, City of Pueblo Mayor.

Brett Boston:

I'm Brett Boston, at large city councillor.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Yeah, today we have a guest.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Not appointed.

Brett Boston:

Yes.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Yes. We have you here on the podcast as uh officially elected official. Um thank you so much for joining us today, Councillor Boston.

Brett Boston:

My pleasure.

Haley Sue Robinson:

I'd like to remind um the listener that we're available on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, BuzzSprout, wherever you get your podcasts, and we're also on local channel 17. So there are lots of opportunities to listen to this podcast. Don't forget if you have questions or you want to suggest a topic for Mayor Graham to cover, you can email us at mayor@pueblo.us. So, Councillor Boston, welcome to the podcast. We're excited to have you here.

Brett Boston:

Excited to be here.

Haley Sue Robinson:

You recently became the youngest elected official on city council as previously you were appointed and while serving the remainder actually of Mayor Graham's term when she vacated her seat on council to become the mayor. Um I think we'd like to help our listener get to know you a little bit. So tell us about yourself and why you decided to get involved and run for city council.

Brett Boston:

Well, you know, I'm just a Pueblo native. Um, just a kid that grew up here, never had any aspirations to get into politics. Um, you know, I just went to Centennial, went to CSU Pueblo, got a degree in business management and administration, uh, tried my luck in a couple different fields, um, whether it was management, customer service, sales, things like that. And then uh ended up taking over the family business. Um, when I took over the family business, it was shortly after COVID, and there was um a new world that we were kind of entering into. And uh my business just so happened to be bordering property with an extended stay hotel. And um at the time I was only 25. Um, I had a lot of issues from this negligent business owner that were plaguing not only me, but my community and the side of town I grew up on. So uh I started trying to figure out ways to kind of combat the issue. Um I reached out to several city officials at the time and kind of didn't get any help. Um so I started reaching out to some mayoral candidates at the time that were running a lot of Facebook advertising because I wanted to put eyes on the story. Um I wanted people to be aware of the issues I and many of the other people in my neighborhood were facing. Um one of the candidates said that I was a great speaker and that he said I should present my issues to city council. So I came with not only complaints, I came with evidence and potential solutions to combat this problem. Um that night only two people cared to listen to what I had to say. One of them was former councilor Sarah Martinez, and one of them was now Mayor Heather Graham. Uh Mayor Graham reached out to me and we had lunch. We talked about all my uh problems, come up with some possible solutions, and uh she ended up shutting down that negligent business that was right behind me her first day in office. And then that kind of sparked um a catalyst event that had uh had some new legislation created and kind of started holding more of those negligent business owners accountable for those extended stay hotels. And now I think we've had at least three of those um get shut down due to malpractice. So um at the time, like I said, I was only 25 when I met her and started speaking. And then when she got elected, um I was 26 at the time, and I figured, you know, if my voice was able to help fix these issues in my neighborhood and my ideas were able to help combat this problem, maybe I could continue to stay involved and help with other issues that I think are happening in the city. So I uh put my hat in the ring for uh the city council appointment. I did not get it the first time, but uh two months later or so it came open again. I said, why not try one more time? You know, what do I have to lose? And uh somehow I got an interview. Um, and then uh I did a pretty good interview, I think. And then after much deliberation, I was appointed as the youngest city counselor ever. Uh fast forward 18 months, and now uh I think I'm the youngest elected city counselor ever as well. So here we are.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Yeah. Um I think I think it was important for folks to understand kind of the journey that got you here and and how getting involved, uh coming to council, and then seeing some of your work come to fruition by working with elected officials um is important. And it's it's also a similar path to Mayor Graham. Um as far as you know, being business owners and being unsatisfied or dissatisfied with um

Mayor, Heather Graham:

government.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Sure, yeah. And and holding people accountable. And so I think it's great to have folks get involved, and you touched on something really important too, which is uh coming not only with complaints but with solutions. So uh I think that's important too. Um you know, Mayor Graham, we had uh Counselor Hernandez just a couple of weeks ago, and I asked you to share some advice as a new counselor. Um we can't really count count Counselor Boston as a new counselor, and I don't know that he necessarily uh needs advice with with 18 months under his belt, but I think uh sharing the uh thing in common of both being young elected officials, maybe you can share uh with the listener and with counselor Boston what it's like to be a young leader in the city.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

What it's like to be a young leader. Well, everybody knows more than you, and everybody's way smarter than you, and everybody's done more than you. Um but that doesn't matter. So um as long as you stay your path and um just continue and and always do what's right, regardless of what that might do to your reputation. Um regardless if you get re-elected for doing what's right, um I think it's just important that you uh stay the course.

Brett Boston:

I agree. You know, I mean my whole life I've kind of been, you know, in and out of the family business. I've been a young leader. Um, you know, I've always been one of the younger ones in the room, and people always think they're smarter than you or they know more than you. But um, you know, we're in these positions for a reason. I think people trust us. I think people wanted change. Um I think they wanted the old guard gone and they liked our fresh perspective, unique ideas, and you know, I think we see the potential of Pueblo and we don't want to hold it down anymore.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Gosh, and restaurant experience gives you like a whole new sight. I think everybody needs to work in a restaurant at some point in their life.

Brett Boston:

All the different personalities, um conflict management, you know, there's so many different problems you have to deal with on a day-to-day. People don't understand what it takes to run a successful restaurant, let alone three.

Haley Sue Robinson:

I uh I can't necessarily say that I've ever run a restaurant, but I do believe that most folks should work in the service industry and and restaurant experience is like none other.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Right.

Haley Sue Robinson:

You know, dealing with the public. Um, to your point, Mayor Graham, about personalities with folks, you know, back of house, front-of-house, um, all those things really help you understand conflict management, people management, uh in both your cases, I'm sure financial oversight, uh, budgetary management. I I think I think it's a valuable asset to be someone who has worked in restaurants.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Yeah.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Yeah. Um Counselor Boston, as we move into 2026, do you have any goals for this year? And

Brett Boston:

How much time we got?

Haley Sue Robinson:

And uh maybe what you want to accomplish during the next four years.

Brett Boston:

Well, I'd say short-term goals. Um, you know, I think the biggest goal is to rebrand city council first off. Um, you know, I think there was uh a lot of issues um last year on council between the administration or the the way we portrayed ourselves to the public. So I kind of hope that we can rebrand as a council and kind of start working together as a group, together with the administration, together with community partners, together as a community as a whole. Um I think when we're at odds with each other and uh we're grandstanding for you know personal biases rather than what's right for Pueblo, we're kind of just holding the city back. So I hope we can kind of you know put our egos aside in a sense and just start working for the citizens and doing what's best for Pueblo. Um also economic development is a huge thing. Um, you know, we're gonna be having a new economic development partner here soon. I'm excited to see what that may bring for us. Um I'm trying to bring new revenue to the city, um, new events to the city. We have a boathouse opening up not too far from here.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Yeah.

Brett Boston:

Um I hope to bring festivals to the River Walk with live music, open consumption zones, nice things like that. Um, just more events in Pueblo to get people to come down to Pueblo, stay in Pueblo, spend money in Pueblo. Anything we can do to help our budget shortfall by increasing revenue to the city is a good thing. Getting people here to support the local businesses, support the local events, the artists, things like that. That's gonna be something I'm gonna be trying to work hard on this year as well. Um, some other big things this year. Um, you know, we're gonna try to do everything we can to impact public safety. We got a uh hopefully a camera program coming up into the works here soon where we're gonna be targeting two um high issue areas being Northern Avenue and uh East Fourth Street. I'm gonna try to get some uh cameras connected to the real-time crime center here soon. That's something I've been working on for a long time, and that's something about government is uh it does take time. And um, although people may think, you know, you haven't done much, it's sometimes it takes 12 to 24 months to get a project complete. Doesn't mean you're not working on it. Um, you know, I told the story the other day that uh my first week on council, I set out to get a handicap access ramp added to Alan Hamill for easier access on that path down to the river walk for people in a wheelchair. And I just got confirmation about a month ago that it's gonna happen. When it's gonna happen, it might still take you know another two, three, four, five, six months, but it's gonna happen. And it took 18 months to get that accomplished. Um other longer term goals that I think I have, you know, we want to try to expand the tax base. Uh, we want to make Pueblo a destination for people that, you know, want to live here, want to move here. Um, so by doing that, you know, we need to address public safety. We need to have, you know, some better jobs, we need to get those, you know, housing units built. Um some other things that I really hope to accomplish that people may think is crazy is I want to bring regulated gambling to Pueblo. Um I don't want Pueblo to be a casino city, but I do want, you know, maybe two, three, five at most casinos, all century located in the downtown area. Um, that'll help revitalize downtown. Um, you know, I think it'll increase property values, it'll increase foot traffic, it'll increase tourism, and it just gives another reason for people to come and experience Pueblo. We already have so many great things down there, you know, whether it be the Da Vinci Museum or all these other, you know, great things we have, why not one more good thing? How about, you know, the Ferris wheel we always talk about, or a nice amphitheater, you know, in the area. You know, just everybody that I, not everybody, but a lot of kids that I went to school with, um, their first thing they wanted to do was get out of Pueblo.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Sure.

Brett Boston:

I know you're one of them that didn't, and I have several friends that are now, you know, emerging leaders in the community that didn't. I just think we need more kids that want to stay here after college or after high school. So um those are some of the goals. You know, I have a lot more I can talk for hours probably about a lot of the goals I want to reach. But

Haley Sue Robinson:

Those are exciting.

Brett Boston:

I think some of those are the bigger ones for sure.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Well, and and they seem pretty comprehensive as well. I think uh one thing that's important for folks to understand is as an out at large counselor, um you mentioned a couple areas of town, you know, downtown, uh 4th Street, Northern, um, and and that's who you represent. You represent the entire city. And so uh to me it sounds like it's you know comprehensive goals that encompass everyone. And uh I heard things for that are great for adults, I heard things that are great for kids. Uh so that's really thoughtful as well. That's awesome.

Brett Boston:

Yeah, you know, I mean just uh anywhere that I can help, you know, working with, you know, whether it be the other city councillors, the administration, community partners, um, you know, I think we need to take advantage of all those opportunities. Um, you know, like you said, the whole city is where I represent. I'm here to, you know, help any councillor, help any constituent, whether I agree or not with your idea, you know, I'm always open to sit down and chat. Um, you know, if we can't come to agreement, we'll see if there's some sort of compromise we can we can get to and you know move Pueblo forward in the best way. And whatever's best for the city is what I try to do.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Great. Well you touched on something, uh compromise. And so uh mayor, I just wanted to ask, you know, what are some of the things that you're looking to accomplish this year with the help of council or that you're you know potentially looking at on the horizon that um may happen not outside of 2026 in the next couple of years.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

I think that um this year, last year was you know focused on economic development. There was a couple hurdles in last year um for us to get to the point that we're at now. Um and so I'm looking forward, like Councillor Boston said, um, to be having uh more oversight over what we're doing with economic development, uh strategic planning when it comes to what kinds of businesses we're trying to bring to the community, how we're highlighting um Pueblo. You know, last week I got to be part of a groundbreaking um out at Pueblo Plex for 150 new jobs, and kudos to Pueblo Plex for attracting Voyager um to come to our community that's that's outstanding. And so I'm hoping to continue to work with our partners like Pueblo Plex and the Urban Renewal Authority. Uh one of my big projects this year is Building Back Bessemer. So I hope that we we see the Bessemer community uh change and then we can replicate that change in other parts of our community that are are are needed. Um like Counselor Latino's uh district. Um he also has similar issues um as the district four representative. So I'm I'm looking at um revitalization, um economic development, um, and making Pueblo the best place it can be to live.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Great. Um Councilor Boston, you also serve on quite a few uh boards or commissions. Can you talk a little bit about what what those positions are and why they're important um in your position as a city councilor?

Brett Boston:

Sure. Uh we'll start off with PACOG. Um it's the Pueblo area of governments um or council of governments. Uh that board, um, I actually got elected chair this last meeting. Um it's a very important board. Um, you know, if you talk to a lot of people, a lot of people don't know what it is or don't think it's a great use of time. Um but I think it's been a hugely underutilized asset. Um, and we hope to change that this year. Um I think we have a great leadership team that got elected as officers, and we have a lot of new people coming onto that board that I think are excited and hungry to learn. Basically, what that board uh works on is all of the uh CDOT issues in the area. So it's gonna be a lot of your major transportation um highway interstate uh projects, as well as any um major community environmental issues.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Sure.

Brett Boston:

Um so you know when you when you notice all these huge projects, um, besides the Highway 50B interchange, I don't really think that Pueblo has gotten the love that it deserves when it comes to the CDOT projects and um the help we need. So um we hope to really utilize the uh the power of our MPO and our our group to uh really get what Pueblo deserves and kind of start making sure that the money that needs to be allocated to Pueblo starts getting allocated to Pueblo and uh we can kind of get past some of these issues that we've been dealing with, such as the issues on the boulevard. Um so hopefully with this new group um we can put our minds together and start moving that in the right direction. Um I also sit on uh Pueblo Urban Renewal Authority. Um I'm currently the ex officio member on there this year. Um we're going through some exciting changes. Uh we're getting in the starting the process of hiring a new executive director. I believe uh we're reviewing applicants today, and by the end of the month, I believe we'll be having uh an executive director hired. So um, you know, and that's a huge community partner that we've been kind of um working to put the pieces back together, figuring out where projects are standing, and uh once we get that all ironed out, I think this will be a huge asset to the community because urban renewal can be a great tool, um, such as uh what they've done in the Bessemer Smelter district with the knocking down of the Convergys building and building back there, that's gonna be a catalyst project that'll help uh start to revitalize that neighborhood and get some dollars set aside so that we can help um do some good things in that area. Same thing with the Dillon urban renewal area. Um, all that land over there by the mall and the Walmart on the north side. Um, if it weren't for urban renewal helping with the funds that they're able to, um, I don't really think that land would ever have been able to be developed. You know, it was a floodplain. They had to move, I don't know how many tons of dirt, but let's just say a lot of tons of dirt had to get moved. And that's gonna bring, you know, a bunch of new development. I don't know exactly the number, but you know, it's it's probably gonna be 15, 20 plus new businesses, you know, whether it be restaurant, retail, office space, medical. You know, there's gonna be a lot of new things coming in there. Um, so it's a great tool that can really help with blights and um revitalization of an area and just kind of create some new projects. I'm also on planning and zoning.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Okay.

Brett Boston:

Um, I just serve as the city council representative there. Um, planning and zoning is really interesting because um you always kind of know what's going on in the city and what dirt's gonna turn into before anybody else. So that's always fun. Um, you know, I get to tell everybody like, hey, what's going in on this area? I see people, you know, putting up signs or moving dirt, and it's like, well, you know, so that's kind of cool to know all the information about that. But um, it also is a huge responsibility because um, you know, just because one person says they're gonna come in and build something, you gotta think about the lifetime of the property.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Sure.

Brett Boston:

And uh just because one business owner is gonna be a good business owner doesn't mean the next business owner that has the same use by right in a certain zone is gonna keep it the same or you know, not do something that can be detrimental to the area. So you always gotta think the big picture about that and um all the different uses and the variances that could be allowed for a property. Um but you like you said, like I said, you just gotta make sure it makes sense to the area around it. And uh I think actually now

Mayor, Heather Graham:

HARP Foundation.

Brett Boston:

Uh I am the Pure representative on the HARP Foundation. Um that will potentially change at the uh next election. Um we'll see if they still appoint me to that.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Sure.

Brett Boston:

Um but HARP Foundation, um, we just do um the biggest part of the foundation compared to the regular board, is their biggest focus is uh fundraising, right? Um coordinating events, and uh the big exciting news that I already mentioned earlier was the boathouse. Um I believe the boat house will be completed any any minute now. I know they were just waiting on the elevator.

Haley Sue Robinson:

It's uh it's being installed now. It's actually here in Pueblo finally. We've been waiting for months, honestly, for that elevator, but it's finally in Pueblo and they're installing it. So that's exciting.

Brett Boston:

That's exciting for sure. I mean, it's gonna be a great venue. I mean, uh I haven't got to tour it yet, but just looking at um, you know, the opportunity that that brings, um, you know, it's it's a nice facility, it overlooks the riverwalk, it has great views. Um, you know, I just think it uh adds another just another bit of potential for that area. Um, you know, we can kind of leapfrog off of that with my festival idea, I think. I know that the uh HARP will have a liquor license, so they'll be able to host festivals, and uh that's just some really exciting news. But um, you know, I know they might be in a a bit of a pinch, so fundraising is more important than this year than ever. So getting those festivals and kind of increasing their budget would be a great thing, and just to help them expand all the opportunities they can on the on the river walk would be a great thing to do. You know, and that's another thing is uh a lot of people don't even understand all the different boards and commissions in the city.

Haley Sue Robinson:

That's that's why I wanted you to talk a little bit about it, because I think a lot of folks just think that you show up on Monday nights and then occasionally you show up for like a ribbon cutting or a speech or something, and then work your job and that's it.

Brett Boston:

I promise there's a lot more to it than that, you know, on top of you know, my personal life and my job and things like that and the business. Um there's a lot more that I put into council than uh people realize. It's a lot more than just Monday night meetings. It's you know, meeting with constituents, meeting with community partners, um, you know, listening to issues, analyzing the problems, trying to come up with solutions, um, going to events, sure, you know, it's important for the city officials to show face at these events and show representation. Um, but there's a lot more that goes into it, whether you know it's the board meetings. I mean, there's so much. And uh, you know, I don't think the community even knows all the different boards that are in the town. Or we don't, you know, always update the community enough on the boards we sit on. So um I just hope that uh everybody takes those appointments seriously. Um, you know, it's important for the city to stay informed with these community partners, the boards, so that we know what they're doing, we have proper oversight, and uh we can help with the projects um that they're working on. And also, you know, it's it's an opportunity for the community to get involved. There's, you know, always a board opening every, you know, every month, it seems like. And people can go online and apply themselves. And, you know, it's a good place to start. Um I don't think jumping into a city council seat um is the best idea for anybody without any prior experience. I mean, I did it. But you know, it is a huge learning curve. Um, but uh, you know, if you don't want to do that, I think a good place to start is getting on a board or commission so you can kind of learn some of the inner workings of you know the city partners or the community partners and kind of build from there.

Haley Sue Robinson:

That was comprehensive.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Always very comprehensive.

Haley Sue Robinson:

I don't think I realized you were gonna go that deep, but I appreciate it. That's great. Um, and you know, Mayor, you attend most of these board meetings. Um I know you have a couple of seats as well. Um, but even if you're not necessarily the city representative on a board or commission, you're pretty involved in all of them as well.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Yeah, especially the ones that the city has representation or should have representation on. Um I go to all the board meetings just so somebody is there on behalf of the city to either speak um or to bring information back to the mayor or to the mayor's to the city council or uh city departments um just to make sure we have that uh communication uh back and forth because the councillor's right, there's so many different boards um and they all intertwine in the city.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Right.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Um you know, the Urban Renewal Authority, they're the only other board within our community that uh utilizes tax dollars, they spend money like city council spends money. We've given them um that ability. So it's it's important to have representation there. The HARP, um, you know, we have an IGA, they are not necessarily city employees, but we fund a good portion of their budget. It is a city asset. Um, and then you have planning and um all the other boards that

Brett Boston:

Building, airport. I mean, there's so many.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Yeah, there's there's a lot that intertwine at different levels. Um so it's important to have city council representation, uh city official representation on the boards.

Haley Sue Robinson:

That's great. Is there anything else, uh, Councilor Boston, that you'd like to share with our listener about who you are or or what your goals are or um how you'd like to represent the city?

Brett Boston:

Um, I think I covered a lot of that stuff. Um, you know, I just think it's important for people to understand again that things take time. We're not gonna agree on everything. Um but you know, this is a thankless job. You know, all of us got involved because we care about our city. Um I'm sure the people that are mad or angry at me or at any of the the elected officials, um, you know, they have goals and aspirations too and visions for the city. Uh I think it's important that, you know, we we stop being hostile towards each other because we all have a common goal. We just want Pueblo to reach the potential it has. And uh, you know, like I said, I'm 28. I started doing this when I was 25. You know, there's a lot of better things that I could be doing in life, you know, in some people's minds. But what I think's important is getting our city to reach the potential that it has. So, you know, I stepped into this role and uh, you know, at the grace of the citizens vote and the appointment of the previous council, and it's just because I want to create change. So um, you know, I think I had one of the other counselors tell me something that uh you know it's time that Pueblo start saying yes and quit saying no. I think we need to be open to change. I think we need to do things differently because if we if what was happening for the last, you know, 10, 15, 20, 30, 50 years was working, I don't think Pueblo would have stayed as stagnant as it was. So I think people just need to stop with the hate, come to the table with ideas, be open to change, and let's work together to move Pueblo forward. Because at the end of the day, I think that's everybody's common goal is put Pueblo on the map for all the right reasons. You know, stop highlighting the bad stuff. You know, you don't have to repost every bad thing that happens in Pueblo and always talk about how bad it is. There's a lot of good things that happen in Pueblo too.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Yeah.

Brett Boston:

I think uh some of Pueblo's biggest haters are our own people. Because so many people that I talk to that have never lived in Pueblo or come here for the first time, um, they see the potential I see. They see how great the weather is, they see how great the food is, they see how great the community is. I mean, look how we rallied, you know, for SNAP. I mean, Pueblo has heart and soul. And I think it's time we stop beating each other up and start working together to reach our common goal. So that's just uh the biggest message I think we should portray. And it starts with leadership. So I hope uh, you know, all the leaders in the community, whether it be elected officials or you know, just people that are in big community partners, they they need to they need to set the tone. We need to work together with everybody and just do what's the right thing and do what's best for Pueblo

Mayor, Heather Graham:

and behave.

Haley Sue Robinson:

How do you top that? And behave.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Just behave.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Okay.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

That's my motto for uh 2026 is just behave. Behave people.

Brett Boston:

Decorum. Decorum, decorum, decorum.

Haley Sue Robinson:

I think uh I think that's a that's a good ending point. I like it. I like it. Um I do want to remind everyone, uh, one of our biggest events of the year. Uh the city actually doesn't host a lot of events. We are participants in a lot of events, but we don't host a lot ourselves. Um but today is the State of the City. It will be at the Public Convention Center from 4.30 to 6.30. Mayor Graham, your address is at 5 p.m. It's open to the public. We have light refreshments, um adults, kids, everyone. We want everyone to come. Uh it'll be a new format. We hope that folks find it really engaging and we're excited that um people can interact with our city departments and learn more about what we do at the city. So I hope everyone can make it. And if you can't, you can also uh watch on our Facebook live stream uh for the mayor's address at 5 o'clock. Um Councilor Boston, thank you so much for joining us this morning. It was great to have you on, and uh we look forward to accomplishing some of those goals that you mentioned as well.

Brett Boston:

My pleasure to be here, and uh one more thing I didn't mention is uh I just hope to serve as a uh a beacon of hope for more young people that want to get involved. Um, you know, I'm only here because I spoke up. Um, you know, I I gave my opinion on issues in the community as a young individual, and my voice mattered. If you don't speak up, things don't get done. So be involved, speak up, get your voice heard, and don't be scared because sometimes the youngest person in the room has the best ideas.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Well, and that's uh that's been your slogan is be involved. And I think that's important for all of us. Um so thanks for reiterating that. That's great.

Brett Boston:

Of course.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Great. Um, I'd like to remind our listener, you can find us on uh YouTube, Apple, Spotify, Spotify, BuzzSprout, and you can watch us on channel 17. Um remember you can email us your topic suggestions or questions, mayor@pueblo.us. Oh wait, I have one more question for both of you. Who's gonna win the Super Bowl?

Brett Boston:

Patriots.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Yeah, Patriots.

Haley Sue Robinson:

I had I had I had to ask it because I knew what the answer was for both of you. So I knew we were gonna need I knew you were gonna agree. I will um, for the record, say that Seattle's gonna win. Um, so I disagree with the two of you, but I knew you two agree. I I'm all about it.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Maybe the boards. I don't know. I have like seven squares.

Haley Sue Robinson:

And the boards, yeah, and the squares too.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Lucy has like seven squares. I hope she'll share her winnings with me.

Haley Sue Robinson:

I hope so too. She might just spend it all on dog treats.

Mayor, Heather Graham:

Maybe.

Haley Sue Robinson:

Okay, well, that was the question for from one of our listeners, actually. So um thank you for sharing that. You believe the Pats will win. I believe Seattle's gonna win, so we'll see what happens on Sunday.

Brett Boston:

We'll put a gentleman's bet on it.

Haley Sue Robinson:

And uh thank you again for joining us, and we will see you next week.