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Skincare & Beauty: "The Glow Guide"
In this episode of The Care Collective, Dr. Anjelica Peacock, MD, joins hosts Dr. Uwaila Oronsaye, Pharm.D. and Dr. Siddhi Chandra, OD, to debunk common skincare myths and share expert advice on achieving healthy skin. Dr. Peacock explains the importance of sunscreen for all skin tones, offers tips on preventing and treating keloids, and shares crucial information on spotting early signs of skin cancer. The episode also covers the impact of nutrition on skin health, along with practical beauty tips and customized skincare solutions from St. Hope Healthcare’s compounding pharmacy.
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Hi, welcome to the Care Collective, a podcast brought to you by St Hope Healthcare.
Speaker 2:I'm Dr Uwaila Aranse and I'm Dr Siddhi Chandra. The Care Collective is a podcast dedicated to empowering and connecting individuals who are passionate about creating positive change. Our mission is to share valuable insights and knowledge, foster a supportive and inclusive community and provide engaging and entertaining. Foster a supportive and inclusive community and provide engaging and entertaining content that inspires growth and connection. Together, we aim to make caring contagious and amplify the power of collective action.
Speaker 1:So welcome to the Care Collective. I'm Dr Uwala Aranseye.
Speaker 2:Hi, I'm Dr Siddhi Chandra.
Speaker 1:And this podcast is brought to you by St Hope Healthcare, and today we're going to be talking about the glow guide right Beauty and skincare. Yes, so I think it's going to be a really fun episode.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We're really looking forward to talking about some of our favorite products and what we do with our own skincare.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it's one of my favorite topics, so let's get into it. The first question is what is your standout makeup product of the year and what makes it your favorite?
Speaker 2:Okay, so for this year it's definitely going to be lipstick. Okay, I love a bold lip. I think, even if you keep everything else simple, just putting on a nice lipstick clams it up. Yeah, I, everything else simple, just putting on a nice lipstick clams it up, yeah, I will be honest, something I learned this year and I feel like how have I never done this before? Is to use lip liner. Okay, I know it's wild it's wild. I look back at all my pictures and I'm like why don't?
Speaker 2:I have a yes, so a nice lipstick and a nice little lip liner. One of my favorite products actually right now is the NARS Power Matte the long-lasting one. Okay, you can put that on and it does not come off. I promise, even with eating and drinking, no Okay, and people like you will literally drink your water and no, the glass is clear. Okay, so this is like my go-to for a mask. I'm going to have to add that to my list. Yes, it's so essential.
Speaker 1:I will have to add that on. That's really good, because, yeah, that's the main thing. The problem I have with my lip liner is that you always have to reapply it after you eat or drink.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then it smudges everywhere. And then, for the lip liner, I was going to recommend the Huda Beauty Lip Liner.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that also Okay okay. For an affordable option though Maybelline the Vinyl Ink. Okay, that is like a holy grail.
Speaker 1:And that's a lip liner as well.
Speaker 2:It's a long-lasting lipstick. Oh, lipstick okay. It's really moisturizing, which is surprising, it's not drying at all. Vinyl Ink.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, nice to know, that's my lipstick. Yeah a bold lip is always a good vibe. Bold lip is always a good vibe.
Speaker 2:What would you say is your favorite makeup product?
Speaker 1:So my favorite makeup product, because I like to make it very simple and quick. So to make it look like I, you know, put a little more effort, a nice blush, so I either go with like maybe like an orange, pink or purple tint, or and like a color on my lid. So just a basic color on my lid and it makes it look like you went all out. So that's what I. Those are my favorite two things I like to do if I'm just trying to make it look a little more elevated.
Speaker 2:You know I'm still testing out blushes. What do you feel that you prefer, like a cream, blush or a powder brush.
Speaker 1:So I love a cream blush, but you have to have some time to do the cream blush, but it just melts into your skin so effortlessly. So I do love a cream blush, a cream blush. So, yeah, that's my favorite, the cream blush. I do still use powder blushes, but most of the time it's a cream, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can say because the powder is quicker, right yeah, it's quicker, like afterwards, but it just looks more powdery. But if you do have a powder brush and you want it to look like a cream blush, um, using like a setting spray after you finish your makeup, that gives like a glowy look, kind of makes everything melt in, so it doesn't look as what are you using to put on your cream blush Like a brush or a sponge?
Speaker 2:A brush?
Speaker 1:So I use a. I don't know the names of the brushes, but I use a brush to like stipple it in. Okay yeah, that's what I was wondering, okay yeah.
Speaker 2:So there were years, years ago, ago, do you remember, when it was like the biggest trend to use a sponge for everything?
Speaker 1:yes, like your foundation, I'm just literally transitioning over to brushes me too oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my whole life I was always doing a sponge. I feel like that was a thing five years ago, ten years ago, and last year I really switched over to using a brush for my makeup and it changed.
Speaker 1:It's like, first of all, the sponge takes more of your product so you're like dabbing and it's like soaking up everything. So, yeah, that was like the tips that the tiktok girlies have been saying. Yes, that was me too, like oh wait.
Speaker 2:So sponges are out of trend now, right, so I switched to brushes and it made a huge difference.
Speaker 1:Same for me.
Speaker 2:Same. I think that's some great tips using a brush. Speaking of our guest speaker is available right now, so we're going to join on to Zoom and have her introduce herself. All right, oh hi, dr Peacock, hi, oh hi, dr Peacock, hi. So we have Dr Angelica Peacock, who is the current chief resident with New York Medical College at a metropolitan hospital in traditional Spanish Harlem, manhattan, new York. She earned her medical degree from Wayne State University in medicine at Detroit, michigan, where she worked extensively with underserved populations and conducted research extensively with underserved populations and conducted research. After completing a year of internal medicine at St Mary Mercy Hospital, michigan, she moved to Cleveland to work within the dermatology department at University Hospitals, where she conducted clinical trials on novel treatments. Now, in her final year of dermatology residency, dr Peacock is passionate about expanding access to dermatological care and advancing research in inflammatory skin diseases. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. We're excited to ask you some fun questions on dermatology. Absolutely, fire away.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, and, by the way, my name is Uwaila. I'm Dr Uwaila Aronte. I'm a pharmacist here from St Hope Healthcare, so I'm excited to be here with you as well. So I guess I'll start with the first question on social media about chemical versus mineral sunscreens. So which one would you prefer, and why?
Speaker 3:Or you know, depending on your answer. Sure, so I mean there's pluses and minuses to both physical and chemical sunscreens. So for me personally, I work with mostly patients of skin of color, and what I generally recommend is more of a physical sunscreen, and the reason why is because it tends to be less what we call photo labile, meaning that it's not going to break down when you're going to be in the sun for an extended period of time. The nice thing about physical sunscreens is that I particularly recommend things called tinted, chemical or, excuse me, tinted physical sunscreens rather than regular chemical sunscreens. And the number one reason I recommend this is because it actually helps to prevent more of like hyperpigmentation darkening of the skin on more of a broader spectrum of the UV scale.
Speaker 3:Anytime you go outside, you're going to be exposed to UVB rays which burn you, UVA rays which age you, and so what happens is, with these physical sunscreens, they do a better job of kind of hastening the process of making sure that you don't necessarily develop either burning or aging. With that being said, chemical sunscreens are great for people too Some people like them. I think what's going to be best for my particular patients, even though I recommend tinted physical sunscreens, or you could use your chemical sunscreens. The one that's going to be the best for anyone is going to be the one that you're actually going to use. Whether it's going to be one or the other, Just make sure you wear your sunscreen every day. If you're going to be outside for an extended period of time, you need to reapply every two hours, and usually a half hour before you go outside.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think that's the biggest point. Like every two hours, I feel like for me. Even I put it on in the morning, I'm good with it, but I forget to put it on again.
Speaker 3:I don't reapply my sunscreen, and that's the thing is I tell people, you know, take a little sample size or take a little trial size with you, and you know, kind of make it into a habit. Do it every two hours, put a reminder on your phone. Sometimes I have to do that too, so, and as a dermatologist, sometimes I forget too.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and I think that's the whole every two hours, like having like they have like the different powders and things that you can use over your makeup and stuff. So it's just kind of being more one that fits your lifestyle.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and the thing is is a lot of those tinted sunscreens that I was talking about. They have the consistency of makeup, so a lot of my patients like it. So then, instead of putting on, just like a regular BB cream or any sort of foundation, they put on their tinted sunscreen, they walk outside and they're ready to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2:Great. So for my question what is the most prevalent skincare misconceptions you encounter, and how can individuals educate themselves to avoid these pitfalls?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So, going back to the sunscreen, I think one really big misconception, especially with the patients that I treat in skin of color, is that the darker your skin tone, you don't necessarily need to use any sort of sunscreen. That is a big misconception. Even though there's a lot of individuals who do have darker pigment, who do have a little bit more melanin, that doesn't necessarily provide you with more protection than, let's say, someone with a skin color such as mine. What I really like to tell people is that even though you are darker skin skin, anyone is at risk of melanoma. So for people who are actually darker skinned, there is a type of melanoma that tends to be very dangerous. It's called acral lentiginous melanoma, and this is typically seen in individuals with darker skin types. And so what I tell people is in order to help to prevent this you know you wear your sunscreen, everyone should be wearing your sunscreen.
Speaker 3:I think, for me personally, just working with a lot of individuals from a number of different backgrounds, I think, with me telling people this, I think people just don't realize it and then, once again, once they start wearing that sunscreen and doing those things and making it a habit, I I'd like to say that I help these people and I'd like to say that you know what happens is they do it and then they tell their friends, they tell their family, and so it's kind of like a domino effect.
Speaker 3:And then I think, in terms of how people should educate themselves, I think the biggest thing is that a lot of people tend to get a lot of their information from social media. I don't I would not actually recommend doing something like that just because there are a lot of things that people put on the internet, as I'm sure everyone is very well aware, that is not necessarily true. So what I tell people is look, go to your board certified dermatologist, go to the AAD website, that's, the American Academy of Dermatology. Or, for my patients, especially of skin of color, I recommend them to go on the Skin of Color Society website and look things up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that, I love that. So that's a good segue into my next question. It's good, I love that you work with a lot of people skin of color, and so my next question would be what is the best way to treat keloids which that, since that is a big thing that people of color seem to get, and how can we prevent them from forming after an injury?
Speaker 3:And how can we prevent them from forming after an injury? Sure, so I'll start with your second question first. So, for preventing keloids, I think the biggest thing is that if you know you're prone to keloids, I would recommend patients to not undergo things like unnecessary tattoos, piercings or like elective procedures that could potentially put you at risk. Keloids tend to happen on kind of the central area right, so the chest a lot of the times, the shoulders and the earlobes. Other things that I recommend my patients to do is, especially if they need a surgery, especially if it's going to be something that has to be a big surgery, I usually recommend talking to their physician beforehand to kind of discuss management options, discuss expectations and things like that. So those would be the things that I generally recommend for my patients in terms of, you know, potentially developing keloids.
Speaker 3:Now, in terms of treatment, there's a number of different things that we do. From a dermatology perspective. There's our tried and true thing that we do, which is called intralesional kenalog injections. So these are steroid injections that we can utilize for people who already have keloids. Something that's actually come on the market, that's gaining a little bit of popularity as well, is using something called cryotherapy or something called liquid nitrogen. What liquid nitrogen does is it basically freezes the keloid. It kind of helps to break up that scar tissue and then what we do is the intralesional injections afterwards, and it's actually have really good success and there's actually some clinical studies that have shown that it has very good clinical success. The only thing about the liquid nitrogen is that sometimes it can cause hypopigmentation. It can cause white spots in patients. Other things that we can use, especially after keloids are treated, are things like silicone scar gel sheets, and especially for patients who develop keloids are treated, are things like silicone scar gel sheets, and especially for patients who develop keloids. On the ears, we like using pressure earrings, which tend to work pretty well.
Speaker 3:Otherwise, I have had a lot of patients who tend to get keloids. The main thing you can do is obviously get rid of them. Right, you want to do surgery, but the thing is is after surgery I usually tell patients look, you're going to commit to about a good six months worth of injections to make sure that the keloids don't come back, and I think the last thing that we do which tends to be for people who have very large keloids is we'll do surgery and then after that you can do what's known as radiation therapy. Usually, the radiation therapy is only a couple of sessions and it takes a lot of coordination, and I think that's going to be for the people who have very large keloids for patients who want to be a little bit more involved in their therapy, just because they don't want it to come back, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's really nice to know. I like that cryotherapy. I have a couple of friends that have that, so I will be sharing that.
Speaker 2:Moving on to I have one more question for you. I'm going to combine two questions actually. What are some key questions and treatments also that our patients here at St Hope should ask their primary care providers related to skincare and dermatological concerns?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so, absolutely so. I think the main thing that patients should be asking number one is just about general skin health, right? So I mean everyone, like I was mentioning, I would prefer if everyone wore their sunscreen, but the other thing is, you know, there's a number of different people who come from a number of different backgrounds, right, and I understand with you guys over at St Hope, there's a large patient population who hasa history of HIV. So with HIV, I think there's a lot of things that you know could potentially happen to patients, right, a lot of dry skin. Some people have eczema, psoriasis, things like that. So I think the first thing that I encourage people to ask is, in terms of just overall dry skin, how do I treat my dry skin? Right, I get that question a lot, and so what I tell people is look, I think you need to practice gentle skincare. I tell my patients, you know, taking lukewarm showers, try not to take scalding hot showers. Pat yourself dry when you're outside of the shower. Don't rub the skin and irritate it and use a lotion or a cream. That's going to be best for you, that's going to be fragrance free. I think the second thing that I really encourage my patients to ask their primary care physicians is again going back with HIV, is things like what's going to be the best way to look for signs and symptoms of skin cancer, and so what we as physicians, as dermatologists, recommend is following something called the ABCDE rule. I'm not sure if you guys are aware of that.
Speaker 3:So A is for asymmetry. You know, if your one side of your mole looks a little bit square and the other side looks a little bit kind of funky, that's going to be concerning. B is for borders. If the border is raised, the border tends to bleed. That's going to be something. Concerning C is for color. I always say three or more colors. You got to get concerned Black, blue, brown, pink, white, things like that. D is for diameter, usually for things that tend to be over, like about a good like four to six millimeters. We get a little bit concerned. And E is for evolution. Let's say, today it's, you know, very, very small. In the next six months it doubles, if not triples in size. That's something that you really need to be asking your primary care physician about, especially because the main thing we want to prevent is melanoma in anyone in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm, that's good to know these are great questions.
Speaker 2:Our patients are going to come in well-informed.
Speaker 1:Yes, they are.
Speaker 2:I hope so. I hope so They'll be like Doc, have you done the ABCD have?
Speaker 1:you Right? Yeah, I think that was all of our questions, right? Did you have any other questions?
Speaker 2:I think that is all I have as well. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3:This was really informative and very useful for us, so thank you. Thank you so much for having me and obviously, if you guys have any other questions or want to reach out, I'm always here yes, thank you so much thank you ladies.
Speaker 1:Um, dr picot was so wonderful, very informative. Like I learned a lot from there. Like the cryotherapy I'm definitely going to have to look into because you know I kind of ask questions for myself as well.
Speaker 2:So, dr Ouala, tell me what are some favorite skincare ingredients and why.
Speaker 1:Some of my favorite skincare ingredients. Okay, so for me, I guess, with my skincare I like to keep it simple but effective. So some of my favorite skincare ingredients. The first thing that comes to mind for me is niacinamide, and the reason I love niacinamide because for me I used to. Well, naturally I have oily combo, oily acne prone skin, so niacinamide is really good for people with like oily acne prone. If you have large pores, it just gives you that flawless look to your skin, so or poreless look. So that's one of my favorite ingredients.
Speaker 1:I know some people do have a sensitivity to niacinamide, but I'm so happy I do not. So if you are wanting to try that, just be careful and, you know, do a patch test. Yeah, so niacinamide is one of my favorite. Anything that has that helps with like anything that helps with hyperpigmentation or like melasma, especially for me, like after I have kids, like when I after my pregnancy, I have horrible melasma. So that's why I have to make sure I wear my sunscreen and that I'm using ingredients that helps to keep it brightened and not get that melasma I'll get like that mask around my face and on my neck.
Speaker 2:So oh, okay, I need to try it. I actually haven't tried it. Oh really, yeah, you should send me a recommendation, it's like which one? I would try it.
Speaker 1:What expert tips can you share for achieving a flawless makeup application?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm actually really excited about this question.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Because I watched every YouTube, every.
Speaker 3:TikTok video and.
Speaker 2:I feel like I studied for an exam to get my makeup there. Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And it was a lot. Like you know, makeup trends change and skincare changes. Yeah, I felt like the last time I did it I was in my early 20s and then, you know, now I'm in my, we'll just say it's our early 30s okay, that's what we'll say for real and I was like, okay, I think it's time for me to reinvest in education about makeup.
Speaker 2:Um, the first thing, absolutely, for achieving a flawless makeup application, is to hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. I agree, right, I mean, I'm talking about even the amount of water you consume. It really does show on your face it really does and to have that flawless finish, you need a good base. So, of course, drinking a lot of water, but then, prepping your skin, you need to have a good moisturizer or primer. Yes, and don't forget eye cream you know, we're all putting those concealers under our eyes and stuff and that skin is so delicate.
Speaker 1:And it can dry your skin out.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then if you're wondering why your makeup looks patchy and your eyes look patchy, that was me, okay. That was me as the eye doctor.
Speaker 3:I was like why are my eyes so?
Speaker 2:patchy. This is not working Because you really got to step up your eye cream and you put it on before you put your makeup. Yes, it's not just like a morning or nighttime thing. You really have to like hydrate your face before you put on makeup. I think that's the biggest thing. And then another one is like, between each step of putting on your makeup, take time to just like let it set and dry. So don't just put on like your primer, then your foundation, then your concealer, then your blush.
Speaker 1:And then it's like all like this. It doesn't melt in it, it's not cohesive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it looks patchy like you said, yes, so you have to let it set. Take a second. Have a cup of coffee. Okay, you have to make time and you?
Speaker 1:you have to make time to do your makeup right, so whenever you are, wanting to have that flawless look beauty takes time it does well. Is there anything different that you do when it um like if you don't, if you have a short amount of time?
Speaker 2:I do. I've actually cut out the amount of makeup, like right now, all I have is a tinted sunscreen I don't have foundation on because, I'll be honest, I had a. You know I had patients this morning I was getting to the clinic I was like look let me just do. I want to look beautiful, but it's just not within my my time frame, you still do look beautiful I was like it's gonna be a tinted sunscreen, a little bit of concealer, um.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing I was gonna say is you have to set your makeup, so a setting powder. Yeah, again, I'm gonna keep referencing huda beauty because I just love her products. I use the Huda Beauty setting powder and that just really helps with any oily, greasy look and just helps your makeup last. That's part of my everyday. Just sunscreen concealer. I do my eyebrow a little because you know, in our culture it's all about the eyes.
Speaker 1:Okay, and it crames the eyes, you have to.
Speaker 2:So I do that. But if I was doing like a full glam look, I also wanted to put out the what is it? The Patrick Star. They're one size. It's called one size.
Speaker 1:One size the waterproof. So I haven't used any of his products or the Patrick Star products and I'm just like I've been seeing it everywhere and I'm like, okay, I need to try something wear.
Speaker 2:and I'm like, okay, I need to try something you need to try that setting.
Speaker 1:Spray it literally will like freeze your face. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2:Anytime I see people spraying, they're like it's like hairspray on your foot before your makeup it seriously is you can go out and it's raining a thunderstorm, a hurricane your makeup will be good.
Speaker 1:I need to try it. That's another one to put on my list.
Speaker 2:Yes, so that those are, like my big recommendations for that flawless makeup that lasts long, all day, okay, okay, that's good to know. Dr Walla, being in pharmacy, tell us what role nutrition and supplementation plays in achieving healthy skin.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this one is very dear to my heart because for me, I guess my background I'm a person who used to suffer from acne in my teens and everything so it was this when I went into like doing more research on it.
Speaker 1:It's actually a lot of research that people who have acne or even like psoriasis, eczema, that they have a lot of inflammation or they're not eating enough like the healthy fats. So eating less pretty much junk food, dairy things that spike your insulin, sugar, those can cause inflammation in your body and can come up in your skin, and so a lot of times, our skin is just a sign of what's happening in our bodies. So some of my favorite supplements that help with skin my number one on the list is going to be omega fatty acids. So those are really good If you don't get enough healthy fats from seafood, like salmon, or from avocados, or using olive oil instead of canola oil certain oils that you cook with is important as well, because a lot of those things the bad fats can cause inflammation. So, yeah, omega fatty acids is something that I take every day, and I've been taking it every day since I was like in college maybe.
Speaker 1:So that's the number one tip that I would say is really good, but of course you do have to check in with your doctor to make sure that it's OK that you know you don't have any conditions, that you don't need to be taking that, but it is good for not only skin health but for heart health. It's also good for that as well. So, yeah, nutrition does play a big part. And then, like with dairy, so yeah, nutrition does play a big part. And then, like with dairy, so some people are sensitive to dairy or, in general, dairy does cause a little inflammation in your body.
Speaker 1:So certain milks like for me, I don't drink. Most of the stuff I drink is like non-dairy, but not only for my skin, but because I'm a little lactose intolerant as well, because I'm a little lactose intolerant as well. But non-dairy milk I usually do almond milk or milk alternatives just for my tummy and just because I noticed when I cut it out I did have less breakouts and things like that, yeah. So, yeah, there is a lot of our conditions. Our skin conditions does have a lot to do with how we eat and our nutrition.
Speaker 2:I definitely agree with you. I also use almond milk, so huge difference. But I mean, I love a good milk.
Speaker 1:Okay, but that's the thing. Milk tastes good. You know, I love me some milk, but milk does not love me back.
Speaker 2:I understand.
Speaker 1:I understand.
Speaker 2:Definitely, I agree with you. I mean, right now I'm eating very healthy because I'm doing a 75-day challenge which we will hear more about next episode. Okay, but it's like strict diet so I've cut out like anything processed all carbs, all sugar, and it's definitely the best my skin has ever looked.
Speaker 1:I agree, and don't you feel more like you have more energy right? For sure, once you get past that first week yeah then you're good, I know because when I tell you sugar is so addictive, it's literally like a drug when you're trying to come off of sugar. Yeah, you, you really have to have your mind in the game because, like they said it, sugar is a dopamine. Rush it. It spikes your dopamine just like a drug would. So you do have to really put your mind to it.
Speaker 2:And you know I'm going to tag off of you on the fatty oils, the omega-3, right. You're saying that's actually really good for your eye health.
Speaker 3:So it's not just good for your skin, it's good for your eyes, especially dry eyes.
Speaker 2:So it just helps keep your eyes dry and healthy.
Speaker 1:You know that's so funny because I did used to have really dry eyes and yeah, I guess I never really put two and two together. That yeah. I don't really experience dry eyes as much anymore. Well, there you go, that's fine.
Speaker 2:That's good to know. Two and one Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, Dr Chandra, what are the essential do's and don'ts of applying eye makeup?
Speaker 2:Okay. So when it comes to eye makeup, there's definitely some do's and definitely some don'ts. One of the do's I said I already brought up was eye cream. Okay, that just helps to keep moisturized and you know, when you're putting on makeup on top, it just has a very nice have, that healthy barrier In terms of don'ts. These are some things that have come up in my eye exams. I would say don't put eyeliner on your waterline.
Speaker 1:Really On the inside.
Speaker 2:You can do the outside, but think about the inside. All that stuff mixes with your tears and it gets in your eyes and it causes red, itchy, irritated eyes. Yeah, but it looks so good? I know, I know, but it's not so not on the eye line, on the eye on the outside it's fine but, like you know, like some people like really put it right there, like it's touching your eye you know, it is because you feel it.
Speaker 3:Let's not lie, you feel it touching your eye.
Speaker 2:So that's definitely a don't. And another huge one because um, I've noticed this a lot with patients is lashes. I feel like that's the newest thing, right, getting your lashes done. So one if you're getting them done, make sure you're going to someone who practices good hygiene.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I I actually have had um um some patients that have come in and have like an infection from their last extension and I'm just like it's like a bit it's horrible. Oh, I've been there, yeah, you know like I see it all the time.
Speaker 2:so you want someone who's doing good hygiene, who's like using the right products, like ask them what products they're using to apply the lash extensions on. And you yourself, if you're getting a lash extension, you should be cleaning them every night. You're supposed to wash your lashes every night. So I guess you know we have patients coming in and I'll see the glue, I'll see all that stuff on their eye and they're like oh, my eye hurts so bad. I was like it hurts looking and I see why. Like this is not good.
Speaker 2:And then there's you you know, I've also had the opposite, where I'm like who does your lashes? Because I need to go there okay, this is flawless, it's clean, it's perfect, like this is great and it's a learning process. But with lashes, definitely the upkeep and make sure you're going somewhere. Good, if you're doing them yourself, because there was definitely a time I was doing them myself um, make sure you're taking them off fully at night. They are supposed to come off and you're getting that glue out of your eyelashes, okay.
Speaker 2:Because, it will stick and it will irritate your skin.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, that's so true. Yeah, I definitely have come across a few patients that come and their eyes are literally bloodshot red.
Speaker 2:It's those lashes yeah.
Speaker 1:So those are good tips. Okay, Dr Chandra. So what should patients know about skincare when it comes to St Hope?
Speaker 2:That's a great question. I think one of the biggest thing is that we offer it right. Yes, you should definitely check in with your primary care providers when you come to St Hope. I was just talking with Dr Goody and she was saying how she goes over skincare routine. She'll go over your face, wash your moisturizer and also like any medications you need, like if you need a retinol or tretinoin or something for brightening acne medications. So our providers are going over skincare and we all want to look young and beautiful. So take those extra few minutes and ask them those questions, because we also have compounding at our pharmacy.
Speaker 1:We do.
Speaker 2:Excellent, and why don't you tell us a little bit more about that, dr Lawler?
Speaker 1:So, yes, we do have compounding available at St Hope and some of our skincare products that we have. We have one for like hormonal acne. So if you do suffer from like hormonal acne, that is something that you can go to your provider for and let them know and they will be able to just write your prescription for our compound. We also have a compound that is really good for like people who suffer from melasma like myself, compound that is really good for like people who suffer from melasma like myself, or hyperpigmentation.
Speaker 1:So if you have like dark spots and dark areas on your face that you have not been able to get rid of, then we also have a cream for that too. So that's something that you can look into. And the other one that we actually actually have is for people with really dry, bumpy skin. So if you have, like you know, those rough patches that sometimes people get, like on the back of their arms or on the back of their legs or certain areas where you have the what they call keratosis pilaris. So it's just like those bumpy areas sometimes on your elbow as well that you're just not able to get rid of and it's really dry, we also have a cream for that. So like, if you're looking for skincare products that are custom made for you and for your skin concerns, then you can always come to St Hope and ask your provider to write you a prescription for that.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's great to know. Definitely, this was an amazing podcast. I learned so much and I love learning about your tips and tricks as well.
Speaker 1:Yes, I loved it as well. Yes, so I guess we are coming to an end. We just want to say thank you for watching the Care Collective podcast. This podcast is brought to you by St Hope Healthcare and we service all your health care needs. You can visit us at offeringhopeorg and you can check us out. If you're wanting to book an appointment, you can also go there as well. So thank you for listening. Thank you for joining you.