Navigating The Empty Nest with Suzy Mighell

The silence after the kids move out can be louder than the chaos that came before. We sit down with Suzy from Empty Nest Blessed to unpack what really helps in that moment: reclaiming identity, building purpose you actually want, and navigating adult children with trust and respect. Suzy’s story blends warmth, faith, and straight-talking practicals, making the path feel clear even when emotions are messy.

We start with the foundation: who you are beyond the role of mum. Suzy shares a simple exercise to ask ten people for three words that describe you. The responses can reframe your strengths and point you toward work, service, or creativity that fits. From there, we get tactical: a three-list reset to separate what you need to do from what you want to do, plus a counterintuitive move that works wonders: book a one-week getaway within two months of becoming an empty nester. Step back, lower the noise, plan with intention.

The heart of the conversation tackles the toughest transition: shifting from managing your kids to mentoring when asked. We break down why unsolicited advice undermines confidence, how to keep the welcome mat out while keeping your mouth closed, and how to set healthy boundaries with boomerang kids who return home. 

Suzy also speaks candidly about fear (of aging, of tech, of asking for what you’re worth) and how small, steady actions rebuild courage. We talk marriage-first rhythms, date nights that model stability, and choosing purpose that fits your season, whether that’s learning, travelling, serving, or starting something new.

Connect with Suzy at emptynestblessed.com or on her Instagram @emptynestblessed

If you’re navigating the empty nest or getting ready for it, this conversation offers clarity, calm, and a practical roadmap. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs it, and leave a review to tell us the one boundary or brave step you’ll take this week.

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Welcome

Mel 0:18

Welcome to Beyond Organised, the podcast that helps you simplify your life and amplify your purpose. I'm Mel Schenker, life coach, speaker, founder of She's Organised, but, more importantly, a wife and mum of four little kids. If you've ever felt overwhelmed, like you're constantly juggling everything but never quite catching up, this is the place for you. Here we go beyond just the tidying up and creating systems. We're talking about real life strategies that bring order to your life, but also we talk about the things beyond the organising, the things that really matter, like your parenting relationships and so much more. So grab your coffee and let's dive in.

Mel 0:59

Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Organised.

Meet Suzy And Her Mission

Mel 1:03

I have Suzy here with me, and I'm going to give you a bit of a breakdown on who this lovely lady is. So Suzy Mighell is the personality and content creator behind the popular blog and social media brand Emptiness Blessed. Known for her bright spirit and biblical encouragement, Susie inspires more than 400,000 monthly readers and followers with uplifting content on everything from fashion and beauty to marriage, travel, parenting, adult kids, aging joyfully, so much more. Ranking at the top of Google for Emptiness blog and influencer, she has also been featured in many sources, including national television and radio, among many others. So coming all the way from Dallas, Texas, please join me in welcoming Susie.

Suzy 1:51

Thank you, Mel. I'm sorry, one of my kids texted me and I had to turn it off on my watch. If that isn't perfect, I don't know what is. So I was like, I like how talk to you. And it's a picture of the grandbaby. You can't even see it, but I'm like, I don't have time for you. You can't ignore that. I'm sorry. You can't ignore that. I'm ignoring it for you for a little while.

Mel 2:11

Oh, I love it. It is so good to have you here. You got a growing audience of people in your demographic that I know are going to love listening to you today. So to just take it, you know, straight into it.

Why The Book And Where It Starts

Mel 2:27

What inspired you to write your book?

Suzy 2:31

Well, I had been doing emptynessbless.com for 10 years, and I'd had um social media going and my blog going. I had lots of followers, and there were questions and there were things that I was hearing from them over and over and over again. And I thought, I can keep writing on the same subject, you know, like you do with your children. When they're young, you keep repeating yourself thinking it's going to take eventually. But but I just thought if I put it all in a book, then it'll be there and it's a resource for people. And so what I did was I started with the very basics of who you are, because no matter what age you are, I think for us as women, as people, as men, even, it's very, very important for us to know who we are. What are our gifts? What are our abilities? What are our skills? What do we bring to the table? What makes us special and unique? And then what does God say about that? Who does God say that we are in his word?

Preparing For And Entering The Empty Nest

Suzy 3:32

And who is he calling us to be? So we start there and then I go chronologically through the empty nest, which I talk about things you can do before your nest empties when your kids start leaving and you think, uh-oh, it's coming. I've been a mom and now they're gonna all be gone. And how's that gonna be? And you start thinking about it. So, what you can do even then to the feelings that you get when the children do leave, everyone's gone and it's quiet and you're all alone, and you just think, what's next? So that then what's it like as you settle in? Like life in the empty nest, rediscovering your relationship with your spouse and um, you know, learning to cook for two people instead of five or six, and you know, all those things.

Purpose In Midlife Defined Differently

Suzy 4:18

So life in the empty nest, and then really finding purpose in the empty nest. What is that like? And what does it mean to have purpose? And purpose is different for everyone. For some people, it could mean, you know, traveling all the time with their husband who's on business. For others, does that sound good to you, Mel? Right off now. I'm looking forward to that body where I can travel so far away. Yeah, bless your heart. You know, but for others, it could mean going back to school, going back to work, um, volunteering, taking care of elderly parents. There's a wide variety in what can give women

Shifting From Manager To Mentor

Suzy 4:55

purpose. Um, then I continue on through the book once we establish purpose to the biggest section of the book, which I hear the most about from my followers, and that has to do with parenting adult children and what that looks like, how your relationship changes from parenting right where you are, for example, where you're training and um working on their character and talking to them about virtue and you know, training their hearts, you're correcting all those things to, and you're really managing their lives, getting them where they need to go. Yeah. To as they become their own person, pulling back, closing your mouth, keeping that welcome ad out, but your mouth closed, as my friend Jim Burns says, and really being able to put yourself in a position to be more of a mentor rather than a manager, um, but only when asked, not giving suggestions, not giving opinions, all those things. And that is not as easy as flipping on a light switch. That is a huge, huge change. But it has to happen because if you keep parenting the way you are, where you're giving them advice without being asked, it can undermine them. So we can talk a little bit more about that, but it's a big, big deal.

Trust, Boundaries, And Adult Children

Mel 6:13

Well, I even see it from the child's perspective here, that you know, the relationship I have with my parents, but also with my in-laws, is quite healthy and quite good because they're not giving their opinions all the time without us asking. We do come to them because we know we're gonna get good advice. That's but also because we know that they're only gonna give us those that advice when we ask. Uh, because they're trusting that we've got it in hand, we know what we know, they've raised us well, we're good people, you know, and they're just gonna trust that whatever decisions we make are the right ones, you know, for my husband and I in our family. That's amazing. I I mean, I still talk to my mum every day, pretty much. I love that. I love that.

Suzy 7:02

And I think for us as parents, that's the kind of relationship we want to have with our adult children. But if you keep getting in there and giving them advice, suggestions, people are like, oh, I don't really give them advice for tombs, I just give them suggestions. You can't do any of that because they hear the relationship. Well, they hear it. The kids hear it. See if you agree with this. They hear it as you don't think I'm capable of doing this on my own. You don't think that I'm smart enough or talented enough. You see me as a child. Yes, you see me as young, and it undermines their competence, it undermines their belief in themselves and the abilities that God's given them to take on the world and do what they need to do and what they're called to do. So the last thing I think we would do as parents is undermine our children in any way. And yet, when you can't stop giving advice and um instructing them and giving those suggestions, um, you can, you're doing exactly that. You're undermining them. I always say Susie suggests

Presence Now And Planning For Later

Suzy 8:03

no suggestions. No, Susie is suggesting do not give suggestions. Yeah, do not.

Mel 8:11

It would, I I know, I reckon your book's gonna help me in about 20 years' time because I'm I can already see it now. It's probably gonna be something I'm gonna have to work through because and that's why I'm a life coach and I love doing what I do because I love to try and fix problems. Yes, and and help people. So it is going to be something that I'm gonna have to be conscious of and actively work on when that time comes. But I'm still in that training season. So that's it.

Suzy 8:39

Well, and you know, I think there's such value though. I want to encourage you, just even in the season that you're in, Mel, that when you're living life with intention and you're being thoughtful about what you're doing, you're not just uh scramble to get through the day. And I love what you're doing here beyond organized. Help people get organized with some structure so they actually have a thought life and intentionality going into what they're doing instead of just trying to survive and tread water. Exactly. Yeah. So I love what you're doing.

Mel 9:11

Yeah. It's being present today. It is, and in the everyday because I know, I know this time is gonna go fast. It's it's slow in the moment. But even when I look at my eldest, she's nearly 10, and I just think that has flown already. And I just maybe that's why I keep having more babies to keep me looking at that. If you want to get to where I am, that needs to stop. You need to stop that eventually. Believe me, I've stopped now. For's my limit. I've I'm I'm stretched. I love them, but yeah, we're done. Um, it's just it goes so fast, and I think of the future and the life I want to set up for the future and and hopefully grandkids one day. I'm bettering my odds, that's for sure. But I I just think

Handling Emotions And Overwhelm

Mel 10:01

as much as I can think forward think and and plan for the future and do all of that, and that's what I'm setting up by having the life I've got. I also want to be present today and in the moment today, because I know this is gonna go so fast. And I want to be in my 50s, 60s, 70s and looking back on today and going, you know what, I made the most of it. It went fast. I wish I could live another day in it, but I I made the most of it while I've got it and no regrets, you know?

Suzy 10:30

So well, and you want to be live intentionally, but you will make mistakes and of course and you know every day. Knowing that you do the best you can, that's what matters. That's it.

Mel 10:41

That's it. So I I love that you are speaking on something that I also feel like, particularly for women that that I've come across in this area, feel like they should know what they're feeling and thinking. They should be happy. Now the kids moved out and they've got their space. They should be happy with a lot of things, but there's just this emptiness and they're not quite sure what to do with themselves. How do you help, particularly the women? I want to focus more on the women, how do you help them navigate this season when there's so many emotions that they almost feel like they should feel one thing, but they're feeling another?

Suzy 11:21

That's a great question. I think um, first of all, I encourage women just to give themselves grace, be very kind to yourself. This is a huge transition. And I would um equate it with when

The Three-List Reset And The Trip

Suzy 11:35

you were pregnant and you knew a baby, that first baby was coming and you did everything you can. You were just readiness and thinking about all the time and preparations, preparations, preparations. And then it happened, and you were like, oh, nothing could have prepared me for this. I read the books, I talked to all the people. You know, so when you're living, it is different. So you have to be kind to yourself and just know that you're gonna do the best you can and get through it. So I think that's the first thing. And then secondly, I think it's a real time of overwhelm. I think people can get very overwhelmed. And so it's very helpful to break it down. I try to encourage them to break it down. There are three main areas. The first is I tell people, take out, like really literally like a notepad, like a notepad here. You can see here's my notepad from today. A notepad and write down as an empty nester, what are the things you need to do? How long has it been since you had your checkup at the doctor's? Have you had a mammogram? Do you need um to get your teeth cleaned? Do you need to, you know, do you need to get in shape because you're not healthy? Care for yourself. Do you need to, well, do you need to work on your marriage? Did you neglect your spouse, your husband while you were busy raising kids? Do you guys need to work at getting back in touch with each other? What do you need? Yeah, what do you need to do? These are not, oh, I really want to travel, I really want to. These are need to, and that has to come first. Take care of what you need to do. So it is self-care, yes, but it's also just maybe you need to give more attention to an elderly parent that you've neglected and they're declining and they need more of you, and you need to at least get in there and assess what's going on. How can I meet these needs effectively? So, what is it you need to do? Number two, what do you want to do? Do you want to travel more? Do you want to go back to raising orchids? Do you want to start a business making jewelry? Do you love pottery? Do you want to go back to college? Do you want to reenter the workforce? What do you want to do? Do you want to volunteer? Just put it down on the pad, write it on the list, and just brainstorm. It doesn't mean you're going to get to all of it, but what do you want to do? Then, number three,

Discovering Identity Through Others’ Words

Suzy 14:03

I tell women, you immediately, it's very, very, very important. You must within the first two months of becoming an empty nester, you must plan a trip. And I'm serious. You need to plan a little getaway. You don't have to go, this is not the time to go to the, you know, cabin in the mountains that you've been to five times or the beach house that your family owns that you've been to all your life. This is like take your husband, or if you're single, take your girlfriend and or your mom or somebody and go away. This is not a long weekend. This is about a week. And you need to pull back from your life. You'll be able to just all the noise will go away and you'll be able to really focus, really think, really pray, um, really hone in on what you want this season to be. And so there's it gives you not only that, but it gives you something to look forward to and plan for. And this isn't the trip where you're like, I'm gonna go to Europe and be a sightseer. That's not this trip. This is three months. Yeah, this is going somewhere that's interesting to you, but that would be simple. That, you know, whether it's a

Fear As The Core Limiting Belief

Suzy 15:20

resort or a cabin somewhere, um, and it's not by yourself, it's usually with another person so that you can just talk. And the time to be there is to really just think about what do I want this life to be like now? What do I want my purpose to be? What do I have to offer? So I ask women to do an exercise in my book. It's actually the very first chapter of the book, as they're figuring out who they are. And I ask them to find 10 people that um know them well, can be your children, um, should definitely be your spouse. It can be your mom, but it should be some of your friends, uh, male, female, both. So about 10 people and text them, tell them I'm doing something weird. You want to be like, I'm doing something weird, don't question this. But I'm gonna ask you to think of me and think of the first three things that describe me that you think of, and just text those back to me really fast. Don't overthink this, it's gotta be one word. And when those words start coming in, Mel, you will see yourself in a whole new light because we have what we think we are putting out there, and we have what we know of ourselves, which is the good and the bad. But when you see how others see you, it is a powerful, powerful thing. Example, I thought that I was gonna get words like bossy and opinionated, know it all, and things like that. And instead, I got words like persuasive, encouraging, enthusiastic, um, exhorter, um, all these things that people, you know, uplifting, inspiring, these words that I

Boomerang Kids And Healthy Boundaries

Suzy 17:11

thought that's not me because you didn't know you were doing it. Yeah, I didn't know I was doing it. And um, and so when you start seeing how other people see you, it can open up this whole new avenue of what you think you might want to do to find purpose in the emptiness season. When I realized that people saw me as such an encourager and someone that would inspire them, I that was part of the confidence that it gave me to start Empty Nest Blessed. The mission statement for Emptiness Blessed is to encourage, inspire, and bless empty nesters. And it started it 10 years ago, it's still that way today.

Mel 17:56

I love it. And I love how it's uh no doubt evolved in that time, but the core message is still the same. The same. I think that's so, so beautiful. What do you think is the main limiting belief holding women back in this season?

Suzy 18:10

That is an excellent question. And you are a great interviewer. You really are. You're asking great questions. Um, I would say you think no, this is good. I I know exactly what I think. Um, I'm just admiring your asking it. Um the number one thing is fear. It's fear. It's fear of feeling or looking old. It's fear of looking, people looking down at you now that you don't have the importance of I'm so-and-so's mom, or you know, my child got into this excellent university, or my child has this prestigious job, or whatever. Yes. It's just you and you're afraid. Um, tech moves so quickly. Um, our world moves fast. You can be behind. Even I'm struggling. Oh, please. You can be behind in a day. Yeah, no, you can be behind in a day. I mean, Mel, my whole job is on the internet. When I was in in college, in university, the internet was not even invented. So my degree, what I studied in school was marketing, public relations, speaking, writing. Those are all the things God was preparing

Marriage First And Modelling Stability

Suzy 19:25

me for just such a time as this. And yet the medium that I'm using did not exist.

Mel 19:31

Yeah.

Suzy 19:32

It's amazing. So you don't need to worry. He has a plan. I mean, he has a plan. Yeah. And he says, this is the way, walk in it. And so your job is to walk, take those steps every day. So I think it's fear. Um, and I still struggle with that. I um when I work with a brand, sometimes I'm fearful to ask for payment that I think I'm due. Um, because I'm scared they'll be like, well, you're not really worth that, you know, or well, you know, or whatever. I don't really think you bring that much value. So no, thanks. We're walking away. You know, or whatever. I don't, and you know, whether it's that kind of fear or just fear that you'll look stupid and you'll have to ask somebody that's like younger and more with it than you are to help figure something out, um, tech-wise, or whether it's some sort of terminology people are using that you're like, I don't understand and that you're gonna look dumb or old or like you know, the ship has sailed or whatever. And so I think it's fear, to be honest. I think it's fear, you know, we all have these dreams, like, oh, I want to travel more, but do you really? I mean, travel's not super glam. I mean, there's, you know, there's parts of it that are wonderful, but um, when it really comes to the nitty-gritty, every there, every job has hard parts and um just life is is messy and not always pretty. And so, um, yeah, so I hope that answers your question. I think it's fear and it's normal. We all struggle with it.

Mel 21:05

I have a bit of a side question, I guess, and it's probably a little specific and maybe not relevant for everyone.

Re-educating Kids On Who Mum Is

Mel 21:11

But how or what advice would you give to someone where their children keep coming back and then leaving and coming back? And they're trying to mentally prepare for this emptiness season, and then all of a sudden they're thrown back into having a child come back because that we're seeing it a lot these days.

Suzy 21:28

It happens a lot. And um whether it's financial or whether it's an inability to grow up, yes, or just falling on hard times, you know, whatever it is, it can be very, very challenging. Um we call that, I don't know if you know this term in Australia, I don't know, but we call it being a boomerang child. A boomerang child that like it went away and then it came back.

Mel 21:59

Boomerang side. Yes.

Suzy 22:03

So we call that boomerang parenting. Yeah, boomerang parenting and boomerang children who go away and then they come back. So that is a difficult thing. And I'm sure as a coach, as a life coach, you deal with this a lot. People have trouble setting boundaries. And boundaries are like they are kind of a bad word. I mean, like a dirty word. Nobody likes boundaries. I always say boundaries are tools for a healthy relationship. And so learning to set boundaries with your adult children is challenging. And I'll tell you why specifically, because you have, and you know, my friend, you've got this little one-year-old precious one, and you're gonna raise them all the way up till they're 18, and then they're adults, for better or worse, you've done your job. They're who God made them to be, and they learn. Brownwick is done. And they've launched, and then and then it's a lot of prey. Yeah, exactly. But

Where To Find Suzy And Her Resources

Suzy 23:00

so during that time one through 18, how has your child viewed you? You've had one role, and that is mom, instructor, teacher, guider, you know, um, corrector, nurse, chauffeur. I know, right? Exactly. Laundress. Um but they've seen you as a mom. You've seen them go from this little one-year-old that you've got in your arms to this 18-year-old boy, maybe who's taller than you, he's got whiskers, he's got muscles, you know, all those things. So you're seeing them at different stages. All they ever do is see you as mom. So when you've got an adult child, they're thinking mom, the way they've always thought of you. They do not think of you as a woman with your own skills, abilities. Even if you were a working mom, even if you had a job, because you know, whether you were a full-time stay-at-home mom and all you did was your children, or whether you had a flourishing career and they were in daycare all the time and you were out at a you know, high-rise office building, does not matter. They still see you as mom. And yet you've seen them grow and evolve. But

Closing, Links, And Listener CTA

Suzy 24:20

in their mind, you have not grown and evolved. So it you can start seeing yourself that way, and that's not good. And then also their perspective towards you is that. So when you've got these boomerang children who are going away and coming back, they do not expect mom to set a boundary and to say, I'm sorry, that's not going to work tonight. I have um my girlfriends coming over for book club, so you're not going to be able to be here. So I love you. And um, you know, other nights are good, but tonight that's not okay, you know, or whatever. So setting boundaries, having your own life. My kids, I was asking them one time. Um, my children are 33, 31, and 29. And I asked them, what has been the most challenging thing about the way you see me now that I'm an empty nester? And one of them said, We had no idea you could do so many things. I mean, they were like, I know. No, but I mean, they were like, You wrote a book, you know, you got this business, you got, wow, we didn't know that, mom, way to go. You know? And then I think then another one said, It kind of hurt that you had so much that was interesting to you outside of me and us, because I thought it was just us. And I was, you know, and it was like, well, I you're always number one and you're so precious to me, but I can't do other things. And so I think I think we have to remember you were a woman before you were a mother. Mother is a precious, sacred calling. It's a beautiful role, but it is a role you're called to fill. Just like you're a daughter or a granddaughter, a sister, a friend, a wife, it's a role. And it's not who you are. It doesn't define you any more than any of those other roles do. So it's about getting back in touch with the woman that you are. And that's why I start my book with let's talk about who you are and what you have to offer. And once you really get a hold of that, then it does. I don't love the word empower, but it does make you feel empowered then to go on and to just bloom into being that flower that God made you to be.

Mel 26:42

Well, I hope I'm setting my kids up for that kind of expectation that it doesn't hit them so hard because my husband and I are making a little bit more effort these days to to go out on a date night or do something just the two of us, because we know when the kids are gone, it's just gonna be the two of us, and I want to know who I'm married to, and I want to enjoy that stage two, and I want to enjoy this time now. But the kids are like, Oh, why are you going without us? And oh, we want to come too, and all that. It's like, no, it's mummy and daddy time. We need to work on our relationship because we come first to each other. Like, we love you guys, and you you're our children and you're important to us. But I married your dad first. He actually comes before you in a lot of ways. So I want to work on that because one day you'll grow up, you'll have your own lives, your own wives and and husbands, and all of that. But I'll I'll still be with your dad, and I want it to work well and they're they're kind of understanding, you know, because in my mind it goes God first, then my husband, Sam, and then my children. And beautiful. Um, and I think it also puts it into perspective that I'm not then sacrificing my relationship with my husband because I'm constantly on demand for the kids. Yes. It puts things in perspective a bit better, and I'm seeing how a lot of relationships have broken down because oh, but I've got to attend to little Johnny's needs all the time, all the time, all the time. And it's like, well, what about me? I have needs too.

Suzy 28:16

So you are you're doing a beautiful thing. You are modeling for those children what a good marriage looks like. Yeah. And I want to encourage you, Mel, as they get older, don't just go for a date night, go away for the weekend. Go away.

Mel 28:32

Well, that's what we're doing for my birthday in two weeks' time. Good. For one night. Yeah. My mom's coming and she's gonna stay over and watch. And you know what?

Suzy 28:40

Tell the children, just say, Daddy's my best friend. And I'm going with dad. Daddy's my best friend, and he comes first. And that will give them such confidence, and you're setting such a wonderful example. And you just tell them you're gonna marry your best friend too, and you're gonna feel like you want to be with him. And I do. So that's so good.

Mel 29:02

That's funny because I didn't grow up. I mean, my parents are together and it's and it's fine, but I didn't grow up with even just having them hug in front of us, right? Like, we're not very, you know, touchy-feely kind of people. But every now and then, like, I just want to give him a hug.

Suzy 29:18

Yeah.

Mel 29:18

You know, I haven't seen him all week. We've been working and out of the house and different places, and I just want to give him a hug. And it's funny, because I see particularly my youngest two, and they've got the biggest smiles on their face. Oh, it's so nice. My older two are the boys are a bit like, yeah, all right. Come on, they think it though.

Suzy 29:35

They think it. It gives them such confidence, you know, to know that that you guys are the foundation that their family is built on. So I hope we answered, I answered your question about boomerangs. Boomerangs are hard. It is a whole thing. And I do write about that some in my book, but setting boundaries in small ways, like you're even starting to do now, and setting boundaries even as an empathy. D Nester to just say that won't work for me. And if they call, just to say, sweetie, I'd love to talk to you. This is not a good time. When would it work for me to call you back? Just to have, I have other things going on in my life. I'm my own person. And you have to remind them because again, they've only seen you as that role. They think that's all you are, and you're not. And you have to just a little bit gently re-educate them. And um, I want my kids to be very proud of me and what I'm doing.

Mel 30:29

I'm sure they are. Well, I don't know. I'm sure they are. Yeah. I mean, I can't speak for them, but I'd be pretty proud if you're my mom. Thank you.

Suzy 30:39

Thank you.

Mel 30:41

Well, I could talk all day, and I I'm definitely gonna have to get you to come back for a part two and keep going with more things because I just have loved talking to you, and I know that you're just a wealth of knowledge, which would be amazing to have more of. But how in the meantime, how can people connect with you?

Suzy 31:01

Well, the biggest thing they can do is join me at emptynestblessed.com. And so that is a platform that, as I said, it's been going for 10 years. I talk about everything that is important in the life of an empty nester. So we're definitely gonna talk about fashion. The holidays are coming up, we're gonna talk about gift giving, we talk about parenting adult children, we talk about marriage, travel, um, decorating, organi being organized, um, beauty, you know, how to deal with wrinkly necks and you know, all the things that come, menopause, all the things that come with getting older. But I wanted, I think women are so beautiful and multifaceted. So I really want to talk about the whole woman. And um, as I said, you're not just a mother, you're a whole woman. So we are gonna talk about the whole woman. And then also um, you can follow me on social media, Instagram, Facebook, and Pinterest, a little bit on YouTube, but mostly Instagram, Facebook, Pinterest, and it's at Empty Nest Blessed. And so um, my book is available on Amazon. It's called, guess what? Empty Nest Blessed. Empty Nest Blessed. Nice and consistent. That's right. The subtitle is 60 Days to Finding Joy in the Empty Nest. So it's beautiful.

Mel 32:29

Make sure it's all in the description. Thank you.

Suzy 32:32

The links are there and it's easy to find. Wonderful. It's on ebook, audiobook, and hardback book. It makes a great gift. It'd be a good holiday gift. It's real colorful and happy. I should have one to show you, but I can't put my finger on one right now. Um it's a great gift. So give it to your friends. I know what I'll be getting my mom. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mel.

Mel 32:55

Great. Well, thank you so much for coming on today, Susie. I really appreciate it and I really look forward to us connecting again in the future.

Suzy 33:03

I would love that. We'll have everybody write in to you with all their questions and we'll come on and answer them. Definitely a great idea. Okay, thank you. Okay, take care.

Mel 33:14

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