God Remembers: From Depression to Deliverance, with Emilee Lopez

**Trigger Warning: Depression and Suicide.**

She thought about ending it all, then one ordinary invitation and one genuine laugh cracked the darkness open.

We sit down with Emilee, a coffee-loving mum of three under five and the mind behind Emailing With Emilee, to talk about postpartum depression, long-term depression, and the painful legacy of growing up with rejection. Emily shares how the “not enough” story can take over after birth, why isolation makes it louder, and what it looked like to reach a point where she’d planned not to keep going. This is a faith-forward chat, but it’s also grounded in the real world of babies, sleepless nights, and trying to function when you feel empty.

From moving across the country to walking into a mums group she didn’t want to attend, Emily explains how community became a lifeline and how her faith shifted from duty to relationship. We talk about being a deep feeler, the burnout of always giving, and why healthy boundaries protect your peace. There’s also a powerful moment around Scripture as a living text, plus the thread that ties her story together: God remembers, even when you feel forgotten.

To bring it home for the mumpreneurs listening, Emily shares her practical approach to email marketing automation and how her Cozy Method builds trust through connection, organisation, and a buyer journey that feels personal even when it runs in the background. 

Connect with Emilee on Instagram @emailing.with.emilee

If you’re navigating postpartum mental health or rebuilding your faith and your business at the same time, you’ll feel seen here. Subscribe, share this with a mum who needs a village, and leave a review so more women can find these conversations.

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Welcome To Beyond Organized

Mel 0:24

Welcome to Beyond Organised, the podcast that helps you simplify your life and amplify your purpose. I'm Mel Schenker, life coach, speaker, founder of She's Organised, but, more importantly, a wife and mum of four little kids. If you've ever felt overwhelmed, like you're constantly juggling everything but never quite catching up, this is the place for you. Here we go beyond just the tidying up and creating systems. We're talking about real life strategies that bring order to your life, but also we talk about the things beyond the organising, the things that really matter, like your parenting relationships and so much more. So grab your coffee and let's dive in.

Mel 0:59

Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Organised. Today I have Emilee with us. Emilee, she's a coffee-loving mum with three kids under five. Oh my goodness. Emilee started emailing with Emilee to help mumpreneurs to stop babysitting their email list. Since we have enough going on, I totally agree with you on that. And utilise email tech to automate their buyer's journey. With Emilee's signature email marketing framework, the cozy method, she helps her clients build trust with their subscribers during their journey. A little fun fact: Emilee also loves playing board games, card games, and any kind of games that involve party games and that involve a group of friends. Now I love my board games and I love my card games. So I think we're on the same wave like this. Love it. See, I'm not that competitive. I'm just happy to play.

Emilee 2:04

If we're playing Mario Kart though, I'm gonna win and I'm gonna be a little bummer if I lose. So I don't know.

Mel 2:09

You haven't played against my son, but anyway. Well, welcome to the show. It's so good to have you here. Thank you. I'm so glad to be here. So I

Emilee’s Story And The Edge

Mel 2:20

loved connecting before we started recording, and I would just love you to share with everyone a bit about your story because you have quite the story to share.

Emilee 2:31

Yeah, so it's kind of something that I came to the realization recently as I was talking to Mel before we got on here. I have always kind of like shared my story with new people that I meet, and they get so emotional and they are like, you have the most amazing story, and I kind of just go, I do. And after sitting with my story for a while, I kind of realized that I do feel like I have something to say to people out there to kind of motivate them to keep going even when you feel like you don't want to anymore. Like when you are just kind of in that trench, if anyone listening has ever experienced postpartum depression or even honestly depression in general, that moment of not wanting to continue on with like your life or anything in general. I've been in those trenches and I have been to the point of wanting to just end it all. I had a plan, I had everything worked out, and yet here I am. And it's honestly because of the grace of God that I am here. And so kind of the overview of my story is that God remembers. That's kind of the overarching theme that I have for my entire story is that God remembers you, whether you want to believe it or not. And I'm excited to tell people how God remembers them and how God remembered me to kind of show them that He is real, He does remember, He is working, even when you don't feel it.

Mel 4:01

Oh my goodness. That's actually really powerful because I think particularly when you're in the throes of depression. And for me, I experienced it when I was a teenager, so it was full on. But when you're in the throes of it, you do feel forgotten. You feel like you are not being heard, and that for starters, but you feel like you've been forgotten, you've been left behind, that God doesn't care about you, nobody cares about you, and that's the lie that the enemy loves to feed you, so you you feel lost, and I think that's really powerful your message there with being remembered, because that is like that's the part of the power of his grace in all of this too.

Emilee 4:50

It really is. Like, I can't tell you, like, I had major depression from the age of 15 all the way through how old was I when all of this kind of came to a head? It was early 2023, it was just before my 24th birthday. Um, so from like 15, yeah, almost 10 years. And I still have depressive thoughts sometimes. Like it never truly goes away. Like if anyone's ever had major depression for like a long period of time and also like experienced trauma, it never like fully goes away. But when you live in the grace of God, when you have God like on your side and you are choosing Him regularly, He doesn't let that depression stay. Like, there are so many people in the Bible that had depression, important figures that had depression, and it's normal, it's talked about in the Bible, but it's just that you can't let the enemy hold that over you forever.

Mel 5:49

Yeah. And yeah, so it is something that you, as you said, you know, keep bringing it before the Lord and that as well. Like you're being intentional about it with making sure that you're just being intentional with your day, because life throws things at you that you just completely unprepared for, you know, especially as a mum, right? With little kids.

Emilee 6:12

Yes. So I have a five, three, and one year old. My days are never the same. Oh my goodness.

Mel 6:19

And you're you're young by the sounds of it, too. So I'm 27, yes. I was 27 when I had my first, and his just turned 10.

Emilee 6:28

So I'm not sure. Oh no, I was I I was 20 when I got pregnant, 21 when I had my son. So yeah.

Mel 6:37

Wow. Wow. So I would also love to hear a little bit about your journey of the postpartum depression because I know our key audience is mums and you are. And I feel like everyone's probably sitting on the edge of their seats.

Emilee 6:53

You're not the only one. Tell us the story of how you get to it.

Mel 6:57

So I I would love to hear a little bit more about that, but eventually also leading into how you came back to the Lord and all of that, and then maybe even talk a little bit about your business and getting that started and up and running and what you do. So take it away.

Growing Up With Rejection

Mel 7:14

Okay.

Emilee 7:15

Well, it kind of starts with a little bit of background, and the background is very important to the reason why I was depressed and the reason why I actually fell away from God in the first place. So when my mom was pregnant with me, I was the second child. My sister is five and a half years older than me. Quite an age gap. Um, essentially, my dad did not want a second child, but my mother did. So my mother made sure she had that second child. When my dad found out she was pregnant, he was like, I don't want a second child, have a good life, goodbye. Um they split before I was even born, and the divorce was finalized about six months later, six months after I was born, and I didn't meet him until I was three, I think is how old I was. The first time that like I had ever met him. So a lot of my depression stems from the fact that like I grew up with a father who didn't want me.

Mel 8:10

Yeah, rejection.

Emilee 8:11

Whereas now I have a father who does. So I grew up knowing that. And the ironic thing is is he married a lady with two kids, and now on his third marriage, she has five kids. So it is what it is. My goodness, how things change, how things change, but so just growing up through life, trying to do everything that you could to just make this person who is supposed to love you, like love you, is hard. I like it's it consumed all of my thoughts. On my eighth birthday, I barely went outside to my party. I laid on my bed because my dad was supposed to call me in shocker. He never called me that birthday. And so I just spent a lot of my life just wanting to be loved by my dad. My mom loved me to the ends of the earth. I'm so lucky to have the mother that I do. But of course, you don't focus on that. You focus on like the person who does it and like what you don't know. And so my mom isn't really a churchgoer, and we were with her primarily most of the time. When we went to my dad's house, he was a churchgoer, and I didn't really want to go.

Mel 9:16

And yeah, yeah, that that is a little surprising.

Emilee 9:21

Um, and I just I didn't really want to go. He went to a uh first church of the Nazarene denomination, and it wasn't a bad church. I actually had a lot of fun at a lot of the vacation Bible schools, the camps, like it was great. Like, honestly, like the kids program was amazing. I have nothing bad to say about that church. It's just as you grow up, you get older, and I'm like, I just don't want to go. It's Sunday. I want to sleep. Like, I don't want to go to church. And I just really started rebelling against that, and then I come home and I didn't have to go to church anymore because I was at my mom's house. Well, I felt this pull. I had friends invite me to their church. I tried that church out for a while. It was a mega church, so obviously everything was flashy and it was fun, and so I really wanted to be there because it was so cool, but I wasn't really connected with God. I was just like, I'm a Christian because I'm going to church. And then I started going to a church with my cousin, and that's really when I started to feel like the Lord move. It was a smaller assembly of God church, um, another great church program. I felt connected with the people. They welcomed me and it was very nice because I went alone. My mom didn't go with me because my mom's not a church goer. My sister was gone, um, who knows where. She's five and a half years older than me. And that church was amazing. But I spent majority of my Sundays during worship at the altar crying, just begging God. I'm like, I'm putting in the work. I know that, like, you know, you can't just ask God for something. You always have to like do your part. I'm like, God, I'm doing my part. I'm reaching out to him, I'm doing it. Like, why can't you make this man love me? Like, constantly ask, like, why can't you make my dad love me? He's my dad, he's supposed to love me. Like, why can't you do it? Like, if you're this amazing God, why can't you do it?

Losing Faith And Stacking Trauma

Emilee 11:03

And that was kind of the breaking point for me. After so many weeks of just like begging God to like help me, and him not helping me, I just gave up. I was like, obviously, he's not there. I'm talking to nobody because nothing's changing. And so that was kind of when I started getting depressed, and when I started going through things, I was bullied at school 16 through 18. I was in an abusive relationship that I was lucky to get out when I did. I got out on a fluke. Um, one day I was able to escape. And so I just had a lot of trauma and depression that I had from like that moment of leaving God to like growing up. On accident, I met my amazing husband. He was known as the weird guy at my work, and somehow I just loved him. And so we got together, we were engaged to be married, and I got pregnant in 2019. And on April 4th of 2019, I had a miscarriage and I lost that baby.

Mel 12:06

Oh, I'm sorry.

Emilee 12:07

And I was devastated. I was depressed all over again. It was horrible. Fast forward, we get married in September of 2019, January of 2020, before the world shut down, before COVID was a thing. January of 2020, I find out that I'm pregnant again.

Mel 12:25

Oh boy. Oh stressful after.

Emilee 12:28

And so, like, I just really, I really wanted this baby. I wanted this baby so bad. I was like, okay, we're married this time. Like, like, I I I really want this baby. And um, I made it to about 20 weeks, and then I found out that I was dilating. Um, so I was rushed to emergency surgery, and um, they kind of so they stitched me up, and then I went home and I prayed for the first time in a really long time. And I was like, if you just let me keep this baby, I'll believe in you. Just let me keep this baby and I'll believe in you.

Mel 13:01

Wow.

Emilee 13:03

A week later, I go back to get checked, and the stitch didn't hold. And so I get rushed into surgery again. I get told to expect to either wake up not pregnant or in the hospital for the remaining 17 weeks of my pregnancy. That was horrible. Don't tell people that before they go into surgery. That sucked. Yeah, I'm cutting. All I remembered from after that is crying and then waking up.

Mel 13:32

Oh, and being terrified, no doubt.

Emilee 13:36

And I woke up and I'm just waiting to hear from somebody. I was in fact still pregnant. It was great, but it was also COVID at this point. It was May. And they were like, you can't switch out your support person. And my support person who brought me to the second surgery was my mom because we thought it would just be the same thing as last time. No reason for my husband to take that day off of work. I go and have the surgery go home. That's what we thought.

Mel 13:59

Yeah.

Emilee 14:00

I'm not allowed to switch my support person. I didn't get to say goodbye to my husband. I didn't get to say goodbye to my dogs. I thought I was going home. They kept me there for five days, and um, they were like, We're just bringing you food and helping you to the bathroom. You can do this at home. And I was like, Thanks the Lord. I go home, spend the rest of the time on bed rest. That's when I start looking into owning a business because I got laid off for my job after that. Oh my god, gosh, you just bombarded. Uh-huh. They were like, Well, you can't do your job from home, which shocker, they did find a few months later a way to do that job from home because of COVID.

Mel 14:34

Oh, I'm feeling frustrated for you.

Emilee 14:40

And so, luckily, unemployment was amazing at the time. It was so much money because of COVID. And I was told most people who have the double surgery that I had don't make it past 29 weeks. So I had my hospital bag packed at like 26 weeks, and I was ready to go. And then week after week after week after week after week passed, and I ended up having to be induced because he wouldn't.

Mel 15:07

That's a good problem in that situation.

Emilee 15:10

And I gave the most wonderful birth to the most wonderful little boy in the whole wide world.

Postpartum Anger And Isolation

Emilee 15:17

But of course, I have depression, and I'm easy to anger still to this day. I'm working on it. I am very easy to anger. I don't like crying. I don't know what it does to my brain chemicals. Don't like crying. So postpartum was not easy for me. I was just angry. I was sad. I felt like I wasn't doing enough. I felt like I wasn't good enough. I felt really alone. I may have been living in a town that I've been my whole life, but I didn't have like really any like good friends. So I had my husband and like my mom. My mom was my rock at the time. She was really the one that got me through everything. Don't really remember that postpartum very much because I was sad, but like I was managing. That was like a postpartum depression that was like mild. But like quite a few, like the blues, I would say.

The Move That Changed Everything

Mel 16:02

Yeah.

Emilee 16:02

Well, then on a whim, which we now me and my husband know was God. On a whim, we decided to move across the country to a city and state we've never visited before. No idea why. We sell our house. No idea why. Logically, there was no logical reason for us to do this. But we sell our home. We had a home purchase. We weren't renting, we had a purchased home. Sell our home and move across the country to a place we've never seen, never been to for funsies. That was a ride. And the whole like first year there, we didn't know anyone. It was hard to meet people. I went to a couple like mom gatherings. We lived right next to a park, so but I came from a town where you don't really talk to other people. I went from a very isolated small town where everyone knows everyone, like you don't really talk to other people, to a southern town where everyone's very friendly. Very friendly. So that was hard to adjust to. And then in late 2022, I had my second son, and this is when my depression got really bad. Yeah, struggled a lot. I felt alone, I felt not good enough. I had a two-year-old in the terrible twos and a baby that would cried all the time. All the time. Um, he had colic, he had RSB twice.

Mel 17:28

My second was like that too. It was so hard. Yeah.

Emilee 17:31

And I was done. I was like, I obviously am not a good mom. I'm overweight. I like there was just like my business isn't doing good. Like everything was just piling on top of each other. And I was like, you know what? Like, I'm just done. And I couldn't, I can't pinpoint when I decided it, but I just decided. But I obviously am a recovering people pleaser. And I was like, well, my husband needs support when I leave. Cause I just I think about other people, it's all I do. No one's ever thought of me. I'm always for other people, but no one ever checks on me or like checked on me or was like for me.

Mel 18:13

You're a deep feeler as well.

Emilee 18:16

And so um I was like, Well, my husband's gonna need people when I go. And we had made a New Year's resolution to try to start going to church because we were both agnostic. We didn't like not believe, but we didn't like believe because we're both really science people and we like having like facts and evidence and like support and stuff, and so we were like, let's just try going back to church. Um, and it was like a New Year's resolution. I was like, okay, well, church will be a great way for him to find people that way when I'm gone, he has people. So we went to the church right down the street. Um it was a non-denominational, just it was Christian church, like town name, Christian church. And we went and like the first week I wasn't really feeling it. He was like, it's okay. But um, some girls that actually went to a park meetup that past summer saw me and they were like, Oh my god, you should come to our mops meeting. I was like, I don't even know how you remember me, but awesome. Uh no, thank you, because again, I'm not here to make I'm not gonna be here, so it's pointless. But I don't tell anybody that then they might stop you. Exactly. And so I was just like, I don't know, like I'm an introvert, like, no thank you, like maybe one day, and then we leave that week, and then the next week we go back, and my husband's really feeling it. And then those girls catch me again, and they're like, please just come. It's on Wednesday, it's a couple days away. Like, please just be there. And I'm like, to get these people off my back, because I don't need people in my business right now. Like, get out of my business right now because I got things going on that I don't need more people into this. I was like, just get these people off my back, I'll go. And I go and I walk in, I sit down, I feel out of place. I'm already regretting every decision to be here because as an overweight person, I already feel like every eye is on me, and I'm like, I don't like this, I don't care, I'm the new person, sucks. Why did I do this? And I'm sitting at the table and I'm talking to the people around me, and they're just so nice. And we listen to this person talk about like their testimony, and then we're all like just doing discussion questions, and somewhere along during the discussion questions, I laugh, and it was like the first genuine laugh I've had in like months. You remember I was like, I'm capable of feeling joy. This is this is real, like this is like am I feeling like happiness right now? It was like the first shred of happiness that I had, and then like throughout the rest of the evening, I just felt like this weight lift off of me that like I wasn't alone and that I was capable of being happy and being around people and people actually wanting me around because again, this all comes back to not being wanted. And I was like, I'm capable of being wanted around here, and that night, that meeting around those people is what changed everything for me. I ended up getting baptized at that church a few months later, and I was in that group for two years until some other drama, which we aren't gonna talk about, happened. But it ultimately came down to finding people in the most unexpected places. People could join a gym group, um, a group at their church, a mom's group, a play group, anything. Like, what is it called? Kinder music, like anything, just finding people. And it wasn't kind of to like wrap up this whole story to get to the point of God remembers. Remember how I said during my first my second pregnancy, because my first one was miscarriage. During my second pregnancy, I prayed to God and I was like, if you just let me keep this baby, like I'll believe in you. I forgot about that. As uh like A day after I said it. It was gone for me. Well, I found out when we were researching baby names for our third baby. We have a daughter. My middle son's name means God remembered. And you know that. I didn't know that when I picked his name. Uh didn't know that when I picked his name. But God remembered my promise I made to him. He sent me out of the town that was holding me back to a place where I needed to be uncomfortable, where I needed to be broken down so that I could be found.

Mel 22:33

Yeah.

Emilee 22:34

He remembered my promise and he held me to it.

Mel 22:39

Beautiful.

Emilee 22:40

And regardless, God remembered. He did not forget me. He sought me out. When people say that he left the 99 to find that one, he did. He he I went out. I left.

Mel 22:53

But he's pretty incredible when you all that won.

Emilee 22:58

He never forgot about me. He never forgets about anybody. He always remembers you're there no matter what you're going through, no matter what you've been through, no matter how hard life has gotten, when you're at your point where you're about to give up on everything, he's still there, whether you think he is or not. And most of the time, all it takes is having other people around you to help you see that. The joy in life is from your village. And I've hear I've heard so many people say, Well, I don't have a village. I don't, my family's not around. My family wasn't around.

Mel 23:32

Go find it.

Emilee 23:33

I was I was 2,000 miles across the country. And I found my village in the most unexpected place right before I was about to end it all. Wow. Your village is there. You you just have to take the step to find it.

Mel 23:51

Yeah. And look, even someone like myself, I could quite happily be left alone for probably weeks on end and have a really good time. I I love the thought of being left alone, especially even more so with children. I love my children, but you know what it's like.

Emilee 24:12

The volume, everything, just but going from like, because I love a good alone time too.

Mel 24:18

Yeah.

Emilee 24:18

But then all of a sudden, when someone, when a notification pops up on my phone or someone shows up at my door, like one of my friends, like when they text me and just be like, hey, checking in, or oh my god, you like let me tell you about this latest drama. All of a sudden I'm brought back into that thought of me. Like wanted.

Mel 24:37

Yeah.

Emilee 24:37

I wanted around. And so it's not just that, like, you know, you need to seek out those people who want

Let People In And Set Limits

Emilee 24:43

you. You also need to be the person who wants other people.

Mel 24:46

So true. Because you because otherwise, if you're not quite in that place, you push people away. And it is important to want it enough, to allow people in enough. Because it happens a lot, and I see it a lot with those who are who feel deeply for starters, but who are naturally givers. This they're people who give, give, give, give, give, give, give to the point of complete depletion. And it's really exhausting.

Emilee 25:18

I still do it to this day.

Mel 25:20

Yeah.

Emilee 25:20

And it's the most exhausting thing. And then I have to take a step back and be like, I have to protect my peace. And as hard as it is to sometimes say no to people or not give so much, it's also important to remember that like you're a person that's worthy of being given things to.

Mel 25:37

Yeah.

Emilee 25:38

And God doesn't just make you come to him, he comes to you too. Like it's not a one-sided relationship. None of your relationships should be. If they are, do get out of that relationship, please. Yeah. You're looking at the

Faith As Relationship Not Performance

Emilee 25:50

people.

Mel 25:50

Well, when it even just thinking about it from a religious perspective, when you do look at other religions, because I know I've had plenty of people from all countries pretty much listening to this. So no doubt mixed in a lot of other religions and that too. But when you study and compare a lot of the most common ones out there, with the most common ones out there, you have to do so much to please and appease their God. And we had to do nothing, just purely exist. And like God came to us, He sent His Son for us. And as a gift, I mean, you don't hear of any kind of concept like that in any other religion. And the beautiful thing is, this isn't even religion, it's a relationship.

Emilee 26:47

It is a relationship. And that's my favorite thing. About some of the churches that I found that I have gone to, I distinctly remember the first church that I went, the one that like kind of brought me back from this whole post-partum depression. I distinctly remember during one of his sermons going, We don't believe in religion here. And I was like, What do you mean? It was so confusing to me at first. I was like, Christianity is a religion. Like, what are you talking about? And he's like, This is a relationship. We are in a relationship with God.

Mel 27:18

It's a foreign concept for a lot of people.

Emilee 27:21

And like, it's still so hard to put into words nowadays, but it's just not like you're obviously yes, praise and worshiping him, but it's not so much a putting above worship, it's more so like a thankful worship where he's in this with me.

Mel 27:38

Yeah.

Emilee 27:38

Not I'm in this for him. Obviously, we do things for God, but it's not like we're doing it to appease him, we're doing it because he is for us, he wants us to succeed, he wants us to be a light in the world, and like he wants a relationship with us, he wants to walk with us. It's a partnership.

Mel 28:01

Yeah, definitely. And I know that by yeah, partnering with the Lord, I have been stretched like nothing else. I have been through fire, honestly. It's not the easiest, but it's the only thing that has mattered, to be honest. It has been the most stretching but most satisfying journey. Like I look at my husband, I've got four children, I've got this business, I've got all these things going on. I just I know I wouldn't even have what I've got if I wasn't listening and walking and communing with him and being obedient to him. Because I mean, how many people have four children these days for starters? But here I am with four kids because the Lord showed me my kids before they even existed, and here they are. Well, all but one, but you know, maybe I'm done, maybe I'm not, we'll see. But it's just there is so much that I just go, I wouldn't change it for anything. Even when I felt stretched and depressed and all of that at times, I wouldn't change it because I I love who I've become through the process, not just where I am in life, but I love who I've become. And yeah, okay, maybe still a bit overweight and still other things and to work on and whatever. But even that doesn't bother me like it used to. And I just think if this is who I am already in my 30s, what will I be like in my 40s, 50s, 60s? And how much more can I learn and grow? And then you turn that next corner and you think, what? How can I now like my brain?

Called To Speak When You Feel Small

Emilee 29:52

But I just love that you say that because like I was telling you beforehand, but obviously for the listeners who can't hear the conversation we had before this, I never spoke on this. Like I've never really talked about my walk with God. And with everything that I had, all of the lessons that I learned being essentially abandoned, like going through domestic violence, like being bullied in high school, going through depression, postpartum depression, loneliness, like as bad as all those suck, and to be like, oh God, I'm so sorry that happened to you. Like, I still wouldn't wish that upon anyone, but like I'm so glad that all of that has happened because recently I have had such a calling to inspire women, specifically postpartum, but honestly, it can be to any woman, just that no matter like how bad it gets, he's still there, and I have such a calling to go speak at conferences and everywhere about this because God has put on my heart and the reason why I know it's God, and it's not just me wanting to like be the center of attention because I do know that some people are like, Well, how do you know it's God talking to you? It's because I specifically told my husband, probably about two weeks ago, is when this revelation happened. Two weeks ago, I told my husband, Well, who am I? And I'm like, Oh, dang it, it is God. Because I was like, Noah said, Who am I? Moses said, Who am I to do that? Like, all of them were like, Who am I? And I'm sitting here, like, well, who am I to talk about? And I'm like, I'm like, Well, there it is. I guess I have to go talk about it now.

Mel 31:31

And so, like, and I'm glad you I'm glad you have. I mean, today's been incredible. What you shared, I mean, thousands and thousands of women will have walked through at least one of those things.

Emilee 31:46

And I just hope that the women who are listening today don't keep the belief or get held back by the thought of, oh, well, like nobody ever really wants me around, or oh, I'm no fun to be around, or people don't really like me, or all of these thoughts that I've had in the past of just being, well, no one wants me around, anyways, or I'm not funny enough, I'm not good enough.

Mel 32:12

Like, pretty enough.

Emilee 32:13

Those thoughts can come, but there are people out there who you are enough for. In fact, you're more than enough for. And as hard as it is, I had to move across the country to find those people. Excuse. Like, I'm not telling everyone to move across the country, like, don't do what God leads you to do. But like, I had to move across the country to find those people and to find my way back to God. But don't let the thought of I'm not good enough or I'm not in insert anything enough. Because for God, you're perfect.

Mel 32:49

Yeah.

Emilee 32:50

He made you the way that he made you. You are perfect, you are good enough. Yeah, you just have to find the people who you're good enough for, and it's gonna be hard and it's gonna be pardon my language, crappy, but it's worth it. I hope you it's worth it.

Mel 33:05

And I would also encourage anyone listening in this situation to open your Bibles because what is it that the Lord says about you? Because he says a lot in there about you, and you know it's for you when you read it because it hits differently. And he talks about how you're created in his image and how fearfully and wonderfully made you are. Does that line up with the lies that are going on in your head about not being enough, not being good enough, not being worthy? Well, the Bible tells us otherwise, and that is his living word. And so it is important to read that, to go in there and to meditate on it, to make that become so ingrained into you, even if you don't even feel like it's true, you keep, you know, meditating and and marinating in it and just keep pushing yourself in there because when you start to override those beliefs, they do become your beliefs eventually. And it's it's important to align with what the word says because if you're feeling like you're a burden or you're too much, you're too, you know, you're too outgoing, you're too loud, you're too this, you're too that. A nine times I've been told I'm too loud. Yeah. And you know what? God created you with all your attributes and whatever part of Guess what?

Emilee 34:34

He created me to speak, and I'm finding that out at 27 after everything. So I need to be loud. I gotta speak. I need to be loud. I was older than you, Emily. I was older than you finding that out. I've always made us loud because we're supposed to speak now.

Mel 34:49

Yeah, exactly. And it's just like the things that you feel might be wrong with you, God created and put them in there for a reason, and you are who you are, not just so you can be whatever you need to be for other people, but so you can fulfill the calling and purpose that God has for you. And what you you bring as a blessing and an offering to Him being you is enough. It really is enough. And the areas that you want to improve and you want to uh refine and get better at, you can. Like we are constantly learning, growing, shaping, changing. I am still who I am at the core of me. But boy, I'm a much better version of me year on year because I'm letting him lead. And it's hard for someone like me who loves control, but even through that, I say control freak here. Control does, and and I've gone through trauma and all that too. And that's a very common response when you've gone through things that you could not control, is to become more controlling. But control really does stem from fear. So when you are genuinely putting yourself in a place of surrender, which honestly, it's only really this year that I'm getting to that true, genuine place because I've been tested in every possible way, and the only thing left to do is to surrender. But I'm not saying that as a back against the wall, I'm saying as I'm fully in, like I'm fully in. And from that, things are just taken off, like going nuts in a good way. So it's yeah. Anyway, I feel like we could both solve

The Verse That Hits Home

Mel 36:35

it.

Emilee 36:35

I know, I'm like I'm like, we can go on forever, and I don't want to keep going, but I do want to touch on something just super quick because you mentioned you mentioned women to open their Bible and read it. And I just want to share that the Bible is such a living text, it's so crazy. Just this past Sunday, um, it was two weeks ago, my pastor brought up a verse and I had to write it down, and now I feel like I have to share it with all of you guys because it just shows like how please living my story is that it's happened before in the Bible. Um, it's uh 1 Samuel chapter 1, verse 27. Um, this is Hannah talking about her prayer for her son. Yeah. Verse 27. I asked the Lord to give me this boy, and he has granted my request. I asked God to let me keep my son, and he granted my request.

Mel 37:27

Yeah.

Emilee 37:28

Your Bible's living. Read it.

Mel 37:31

Yeah, definitely. Oh, and yeah, I feel like we've only just literally scraped the surface of your story.

The C.O.Z.Y Method For Email Trust

Mel 37:40

Oh my god, I know. We didn't even really get to talk about how you then got into business and and all that kind of stuff. But maybe for like one minute briefly, just say how you got into it and what you were doing.

Emilee 37:52

I can do it fast. I've perfected my own video. Um, yeah, so I started my business as a VA virtual assistant because I wanted to stay home with my kids. I didn't want to miss a minute. I wanted to be there for every first. And so I kind of started as a VA. I worked with a couple people, found out that I love tech. I'm a person who loves systems. I love spreadsheets, which is the weirdest thing to say. Most people hate them. If I could live in a spreadsheet, I would everything. I love data. I love like seeing like automation trees. And I just love all things tech. I'm not like, I'm not like coding techie. No, no, no. I'm the same. I'm I like like digital tech. I just love how in email you can change where a button is in an email, and it's gonna drastically change how well that email does. And so I got into email tech to help businesses by doing those small little things, changing parts in their tech trees, changing parts in their emails to then soar their profits. And I ended up, I'm a very cozy person. I'm doing this in my pajamas. I'm sitting on the couch. Um, I am a cozy person. I spend most of my time in pajamas or sweatpants just because I'm a cozy person. That's who I am. Love me or leave me. I don't really care. I've got my cozy pants on. But um, I made an email framework called the cozy method. It stands for connection, organization, zero in, and uify. Um, essentially teaching people how to build trust in an email because it's so hard to build that connection, that trust in an email. And I teach people how to build it automatically or I do it for them. Some people want it done. I'll do that too. But my systems help build trust and lead people's subscribers all the way through the buyer journey where they start in, they get welcomed in, they build that trust to the point where it's like, oh my gosh, now we're in the sales sequence, and bam, they want to buy from you because I don't know about you, but I only buy and do stuff for people who I trust, who I feel connected with. Um, because there are so many people in so many niches, there are so many copywriters out there. I'm probably gonna pick the one I connect with. There's so many podcasters out there. I'm only gonna go on people's shows that I connect with. You're only gonna invite people on that you feel connected with. And so building that connection is the only way that you're gonna sell. Yeah. And I help people do that in an email, but I help them do it automatically because, like we said earlier, I don't want to babysit my email list. I'm taking care of three other kids. I'm a little busy.

Mel 40:27

Yeah. So we have automations, you don't even need to. It's great.

Emilee 40:31

We automate everything, but guess what? People don't even know it's automated because of how much connection and love goes into that.

Mel 40:40

We need to take this offline. I need to talk to you more about that. I've been working on my email list. That's what I do. I just help people. Great. Oh, it's so good. Well, I am gonna wrap it up as much as I really don't want to, but I know I'm like I could talk forever and I'm gonna have to have you back. I'm gonna have to have you back.

Emilee 41:01

Round two, people get ready for it.

Mel 41:03

That's it, round two.

How To Connect And Next Steps

Mel 41:06

Thank you so, so much for sharing and being vulnerable today. I know it's not easy. It will get easier the more you're gonna get easier. I'm also an open book. I tell people I love it. I love it, and I have no doubt people listening will appreciate that, especially if it's some touched on something that they've experienced too. And if this is something that you might have experienced and you've got your own story or something you want to share from what has happened today, we'd love to hear from you. Leave us a comment, send us a message, connect with us on Instagram. So, Emily, I might get you to just share quickly what your Instagram handle is so they can connect with you.

Emilee 41:46

Um, it's emailing with Emily. There are periods in between each of them. So emailing dot with dot emily. My name is spelled fancy. Um just an F Y I. It's E-M-I-L-E-E. Uh, not a Y. Um, so yeah, you can find me there. And you do not have to message me about business stuff. If you want to message me about Christ, if you want to message me about you're going through the trenches and you just need a friend in that moment, I am a friend to all. I am a friend to all. Message me about it. Doesn't have to be about business. I just love people.

Mel 42:18

Yeah. Oh, I'm so glad we connected and I'm so glad that you were on here. Thank you for taking up your time, your evening to be with us. Okay, I'm just glad the kids are in bed.

Emilee 42:31

So I didn't have any interruptions.

Mel 42:33

So it's so good. And normally at this time of the day, the kids are all at school and daycare, but of course I've got my daughter homesick. So thankfully, my husband has stepped in.

Emilee 42:41

I did just get a message from the nurse saying that chicken pox is going around.

Mel 42:45

So I just for your time today, Emilee. And I look forward to connecting again in the future.

Emilee 42:52

100%. Thanks for having me.

Mel 42:55

You're welcome. If you like this episode, don't forget to hit subscribe so you don't miss what's coming next. And if you want to continue the conversation, you can connect with me on Instagram @shes.organised or for some free resources, head over to beyondorganised.com/toolkit. Remember, organising is a tool to live the purposeful life beyond it. See you next time.