Peace Before Productivity

Peace can feel like the thing we’ll finally get once the house is sorted, the kids are settled, and our schedule stops yelling at us. I’ve been there, and I’ve learnt the hard way that there’s always another “once”. The surprising shift that’s changed my life (and the heart of She’s Organised) is this: peace isn’t the reward for getting organised, it’s the foundation we build from.

I unpack why I stopped talking mainly about time management and started talking about time stewardship and financial stewardship. Management assumes I own it and I must control it; stewardship reminds me everything already belongs to God and has been entrusted to me for this season. That single change reframes the mental load, the pressure to prove ourselves, and the quiet guilt we can feel when we rest, even when we love Jesus deeply.

We also sit with John 14 and John 15, because biblical peace and spiritual fruit don’t come from striving harder. Jesus invites us to remain, to abide, to receive first and then respond. From that place, we can create real margin, guard our attention in a noisy world, and take practical steps like giving God our first attention, even in the chaos of parenting and work.

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A Personal And Reflective Opening

Mel 0:24

Welcome to Beyond Organised, the podcast that helps you simplify your life and amplify your purpose. I'm Mel Schenker, life coach, speaker, founder of She's Organised, but, more importantly, a wife and mum of four little kids. If you've ever felt overwhelmed, like you're constantly juggling everything but never quite catching up, this is the place for you. Here we go beyond just the tidying up and creating systems. We're talking about real life strategies that bring order to your life, but also we talk about the things beyond the organising, the things that really matter, like your parenting relationships and so much more. So grab your coffee and let's dive in. Today's episode is a little bit different. It's a bit more personal and reflective. And honestly, I think it could be one of the most important episodes I've ever done. Not because I'm about to teach you a brand new organizing system or because I've discovered some revolutionary productivity hack. It's actually quite the opposite. Today I want to tell you why I think I had it backwards. Not completely backwards, but backwards enough that God has spent the last couple of years quietly reshaping me before he reshaped my message. And if I'm honest, I don't think I've ever been able to properly explain what she's organized, my business, is really about until now. So grab yourself a cup of tea, head out for a walk, fold some washing if that's what you're doing while you're listening. Because I have a feeling this conversation might challenge the way you've been approaching your days in the best possible way.

From Overwhelm To Simple Order

Mel 2:02

When I first started She's Organized, my heart was really simple. I just wanted to help overwhelmed mums breathe again. I wanted to help them organize their homes, create routines, reduce the mental load, feel more prepared, just manage their time better and live a happier life, right? I wanted to help with all the practical things. And honestly, I still believe in those things. And those things do matter because order does matter. Scripture tells us that God isn't a god of confusion, he's a god of peace and order. So creating order in our homes and in our lives isn't worldly. It actually reflects a part of his character, but also our own, I believe. But over the last 12 months or so, something has shifted. Actually, something has shifted in me. God has been doing a work in me long before he ever wanted me to teach it or talk about it. And last year I felt this gentle nudge from him. It wasn't a loud, dramatic, you know, screaming in my face. It was simply this quiet prompting that kept me coming back. Speak to my daughters. Not just women or any women, but Christian women who genuinely love him and have a relationship with him, who want to honor him in what they're doing, in the season they're in, through serving their families or through the church or through their work, raising his children, running good godly businesses, showing up for everyone around them. Women who are doing so much right, yet still missing that peace that he wants to give you. And maybe that's you. Maybe you love Jesus with your whole heart, but if you're honest, you still feel like you're constantly behind. You lie in bed at night mentally replaying the day. You wake up already thinking about everything that needs to happen. This was me. You feel guilty when you rest. You wonder why everyone else seems to have it together. And you know all the Bible verses about peace, but somehow you don't actually experience it. You are exactly who God has been asking me to speak to. Because that was me too. Can I tell you something? This year should probably be the most overwhelmed that I've ever been. Life has not slowed down. If anything, it has become fuller than ever. I've got four beautiful children, but they are a handful at times. I've got a great husband. I've got a business that I'm incredibly passionate about. I love what I'm doing. I've also got this podcast. I've got the She's Organized Hub. I've got private coaching. I've also got other work commitments. I'm subcontracting, church, friends, family, life. I mean, I have so much going on that I don't think I've ever been this busy in my whole entire life. There are days where the washing does seem endless, and you know, my kids need a snack every 17 seconds, and the emails are coming in, and clients need support, and deadlines are approaching, and it's just one thing after another, and it doesn't stop. Life is a bit messy. And I'm sure you can relate. And here's what's interesting: people have started asking me, Mel, how do you do it all? And honestly, for the longest time, I could not give a decent answer. I honestly could not tell you how I was managing it all. Yes, I help people with get organized. Yes, that's what I do for a living. But when people looked at my specific life, I would just say, well, I guess I'm just organized. But it wasn't just that. I wasn't doing anything spectacular. I wasn't getting up at 4 a.m. or surviving on only three hours' sleep, or I don't know, running everything like a really well-oiled machine. I just knew something had changed. Not around me, but in me. Yes, things were somewhat in order. Things also were somewhat not in order. But something was still changing and happening that was making it work overall. And it was in me. The workload hadn't become smaller, my life hadn't become easier, or, you know, things finally getting ticked off that I could close and put aside. It was just getting more and more and more piling on, even this year.

Stop Carrying What Isn’t Yours

Mel 7:20

One morning during my quiet time with God, I really felt him just say, it's because you stopped trying to carry what was never yours to carry. I sat there, my journal open. I have journaled a lot of pages this year. And I cried. It was a bit emotional because he was right. For years I thought I needed better systems, better routines, better habits, better time management. All of the things that I do talk about and that I do help you with. But what I actually needed was deeper surrender. And you would have heard me talk about it a few times now. I didn't become more organized. I became more surrendered. And I want to tell you that changes everything. It also explains something that's been happening inside she's organized that maybe you've noticed without me even realizing it so much, but the language has been changing.

Stewardship Changes The Whole Question

Mel 8:26

I stopped talking about time management and now I talk more on time stewardship. I am not talking so much on budgeting, but financial stewardship. Even though the five pillars of balance that I've got uh are still relevant and very much still key, and all the things that I have taught on with the Beltrix method, Vex Nova Technic, they all still work. They are all still key. But this has taken on a deeper meaning now. At first I thought I was just changing my wordings, trying to sound a little different, but I wasn't. God was actually changing my understanding because management assumes ownership and responsibility. Whereas stewardship recognizes that everything already belongs to him. In Psalms 24, one, it says the earth is the Lord's and everything in it. Everything. That includes my time, my home, my money, my children, my work, my opportunities. Everything is his. And none of it actually belongs to me, but it has been entrusted to me. And suddenly, really truly grasping that, my entire coaching framework started to change and make a bit more sense than it ever had before. I realized I've never actually been teaching women how to become more productive. I've actually been teaching them how to become more faithful stewards. And I didn't have the language for it yet in my early days. Management asks, what do I want to do with this? Whereas I feel stewardship is more asking, Lord, what have you entrusted to me? Can you hear that difference? One begins with me, the other begins with him. And that's where I feel like the biggest revelation of all started on this whole journey of him really pivoting the direction of my messages, where I'm going and where he's leading me. Because even stewardship wasn't the deepest lesson God had for me. There was something underneath it, something that actually changed everything, and it was peace.

Peace Is A Gift Not A Prize

Mel 11:03

Not the kind of peace that comes because everything finally worked out. It's the kind of peace that comes before anything has even changed yet. And that's what I want to talk to you about. Because I think we've been chasing peace in all the wrong places. So, what was this revelation? It sounds really simple now when I think about it. But honestly, I didn't know how I missed it for so long. Maybe you missed it too. I realized I'd spent most of my Christian life believing that peace was the reward. Thinking about how often we say things like, once I get through this week, then XYZ, once I get through the school holidays, once this work project is finished, once the house is organized, once I finally get financially ahead, once life settles down a little, then I can rest, breathe, finally spend more time with God. I'll finally have peace. Have you ever caught yourself saying something like that? Because I certainly have. And here is something that I realized with all of that. There's always another once. Life never actually arrives at this magical destination where everything is calm. One child grows up, another enters a new season. One work project finishes, another begins. One financial pressure eases, and then something else comes on. If peace depends on life becoming quiet, we'll spend our entire lives waiting for something God has already offered. If peace depends on your circumstances, you'll always be waiting. If peace depends on Christ, then you can have it today. Oh my goodness, I can't believe it took me nearly 37 years to learn this and realize this and truly understand it. I think that's one of the greatest lies the enemy has whispered to all of us, including me. Just keep pushing. You're nearly there. Just keep trying, just a little bit harder. Once you've earned it. Oh my goodness. Peace was never something Jesus asked us to earn. It was something He came to give. I love John 14, 27. It says, Peace I leave with you, my peace I give you. I did not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. I don't know how many times I read that verse, probably a thousand times in my life. But this year something really jumped out at me. Jesus says, My peace I give you. Not my peace you'll eventually discover, or my peace you'll earn through hard work. He simply says, I give it. It's a gift, and gifts aren't earned. I don't know about you, but I haven't had to earn the gifts that I've received. Peace isn't a reward for getting your life together. Peace is a gift from Jesus before your life even feels together. I started thinking about when Jesus said these words. Because context does matter. Jesus isn't sitting beside a lake after retirement. He's not on holidays. He's not celebrating because life is finally easy. He is literally hours away from the cross. He knows Judas is about to betray him. He knows Peter is about to deny him. He knows his disciples are about to scatter, disappear. He knows suffering is coming. And yet those are the moments he chooses to speak about peace. That tells me something. Biblical peace has never depended on comfortable circumstances. It always depends on the presence of Christ. Jesus spoke about peace before he endured the cross, not after it. Peace was never meant to wait until life became easy. Hearing this, understanding this, having this revelation, something clicked in me. The

When Productivity Becomes Your Foundation

Mel 15:50

reason we struggle to experience peace is because we've accidentally made productivity our foundation. Think about our culture. We praise others. We get praised ourselves for being busy. It's being completely celebrated and glorified, hustle culture. It's like it's like a badge of honor. And how exhausting is it? If someone asks, how are you doing? We usually say, um, busy. Almost like busy equals important, busy equals success, value, all those important things. But when I read scripture, Jesus never seemed to be in a hurry. Was he busy? Absolutely. His days were full. People constantly needed him. Crowds followed him. He taught, healed, traveled, discipled, served. He was constantly on the go. But his soul was never rushed. There's a difference. Jesus had a full schedule. But he never had a hurried heart. Even understanding that has changed the way that I parent. It really challenged me. Because if I'm honest, I'd become very good at getting things done. I mean, I started the business on helping people get organized. I could help you get things done. But I wasn't always good at protecting my heart while I did it. Another verse that I really like is Isaiah 26, 3. It says, you will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast because they trust in you. Notice what it doesn't say. It doesn't say you'll keep in perfect peace those whose lives are easy, or those who have enough money, those whose children always behave, or whatever other thing you could fill in the blank with that you are putting in that place. It's those minds that are steadfast. Peace begins in the mind long before it reaches your calendar. That sentence has changed the way I coach because most women often come to me saying, Mal, help me organize my schedule, help me organize my life. And yes, we absolutely do do that. But more often than not, the real issue isn't the schedule. It's the pressure they're carrying, the beliefs that they've accepted. And that's why I have the Vexenova technique to help rewrite some of these beliefs. It's the expectations they've placed on themselves. It's the constant feeling that they've had to keep proving their worst. Organization can help. An organized calendar, an organized home, an organized life without a surrendered heart still produces a restless soul. Oh my goodness. I actually think this is why so many women feel disappointed. They buy the planner, they buy another course, they invest in a great coach. They get another diary, find another app, read another productivity book. And for a while it can work, but life does get busy again. Systems are wonderful servants, but they were never designed to become our source of peace. Only Jesus can do that. And once I connected the dots on it all, everything about she's organized started to change. Even beyond organized, this podcast started to change. Not because organization stopped mattering. It is still the core of what I do here in a lot of respects. But now I understand why it matters. I don't organize my life to create peace. I organize my life because I've received his peace. That is a completely different starting point. Peace before productivity changes everything. When your heart is anchored, your hands stop striving. Now, if that was the revelation, the next question becomes okay, Lord, if peace comes first, how do I actually stay there? Because

Abide Before You Try Harder

Mel 20:53

it's one thing to experience peace during a quiet time. It's a completely different thing when you've got a toddler screaming in your face, uh, your bills are piling up, dinner still isn't cooked, you're being asked a million different questions at the same time. Uh, someone's just spilled milk on the floor and don't even get me started on crying over spilled milk. It happens. That's when God took me to the passage I've read countless times before. John 15. And honestly, I don't think I've ever read it the same way since he revealed this to me. Now I know what you're thinking. I've heard this passage before. So had I. I'd read it and highlighted it, but sometimes we don't just need God to show us something new. Sometimes we need him to show us something we've read a hundred times in a completely different way. That's why it's the living word. Jesus says, I am the vine, you are the branches. If you You remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit. Apart from me, you can do nothing. I want you to notice something. Jesus never tells the branch to produce fruit. He simply says remain. That one word Ah man, that one word stopped me. Because I realized I'd spent years trying to produce the fruit. Even when I think of the fruits of the spirit, I was trying to become more patient, joyful, peaceful, kind, loving, more self-controlled. My goodness, I've struggled with self-control in many areas. Have you ever done that? You lose patience with your kids. So tomorrow you promise yourself you'll try harder. You feel anxious, so you think I just need to get on top of everything. You lose your temper. Tomorrow I'll try to become a better Christian. I don't know. It can be as basic as that. It can be as complicated as that. But can you see what we're doing? We're trying to manufacture something that was never ours to manufacture. I started laughing one day because God gave me this picture. Imagine walking past an apple tree. One branch is shaking, sweating, straining, yelling, come on, produce, produce, produce. Produce, produce. We'd think, what is wrong with that tree? Because branches don't produce fruit by trying harder. They produce fruit by staying connected. Fruit isn't produced through striving, it's produced through abiding. Oh my goodness. This sentence alone changed the way I live. Then something else also hit me. It is called the fruits of the spirit, not the fruits of hard work, the fruits of better planning, the fruit of perfect morning routines. It's the fruit of the spirit. It's the evidence of a life remaining connected to Jesus, not a life trying to impress him. That means peace isn't something I create. Peace is something God grows. Joy isn't something that I can manufacture. It is something he produces. Patience, kindness, gentleness, self-control. They all grow from the same place. Connection, not performance. God never asked you to manufacture the fruit. He invited you to remain connected to the vine. Now don't misunderstand me. That doesn't mean we sit back and do nothing. Sometimes Christians can swing it a little bit far the other way. Well, if God produces a fruit, I'll just wait. No, branches are alive. They're drawing nourishment. They're receiving, they're growing, they're responding. Still in obedience, there is action happening. There is stewardship happening. But the order matters. We receive first, then we respond. We abide first, then we act. Peace first. Productivity second. And I honestly think that's where so many of us have it backwards. I mean, that's pretty much what the world teaches, right? You get all this all your ducks in a row, then you'll experience peace. Then you'll experience rest. Whatever it is. The order matters. Receive before you respond. Abide before you achieve. Peace before productivity. Something

Margin And Attention Protect Peace

Mel 26:14

I've been saying inside the hub lately is order isn't the destination. Order creates the environment where purpose can flourish. I mean, this whole podcast simplify your life, amplify your purpose. Purpose is a huge part. Being intentional is a huge part. When you think about it, the goal was never to have your life completely organized. Those things are great, but the goal here is to create enough buffer, enough margin in your life that you can actually hear God respond to him instead of just reacting to situations that happen. Notice the people around you. Because if every minute of my calendar belongs to me, how can God redirect it? And the word margin, I don't think we actually appreciate it enough. We often think margin is wasted space, unused time, or maybe even a missed opportunity. But what if margin is actually an act of faith? Jesus modeled it constantly. Mark 6 tells us, come with me by yourselves to a quiet place and get some rest. Think about what has just happened. The disciples have been serving, teaching, ministering, helping people, doing all the things, right? And Jesus doesn't say keep going. He says come away. Why? Because he knew something we often forget. You can't continually pour out what you've stopped receiving. Always say we we can't pour from an empty cup. You can't continually pour out what you have stopped receiving. This is actually why I believe so many Christian women are burning out. Not because they don't love Jesus, they do. I know you do. And not because you're lazy. It's quite the opposite. You're incredibly capable, generous, faithful. All the beautiful things that he does love about you. But somewhere along the way, you started believing that you had to carry everything, everyone's emotions, everyone's needs and schedules and expectations and my goodness, all the things. I'm totally guilty of this. Jesus already carried the weight of the world. So you don't have to. One of the things we unpacked inside this month's coaching call was how to actually protect the peace God gives us. Because yes, peace is a gift and it does need to be looked after. And we have a responsibility to steward it as well. We talked about guarding our minds, protecting our attention, creating margin, recognizing the belief that quietly steals our peace before they become our identity. Because here's the truth in all of this: the world is constantly competing for your attention. Notifications, social media, the news, your kids, other people's expectations and comparisons, just the busyness of it all, right? And wherever your attention goes, your life follows. Your calendar follows your attention before it follows your priorities. That one has challenged me more than almost anything else this year because I realized I don't just need to steward my time. I need to steward what is influencing and shaping my heart. And that's why we spend so much time inside this month's coaching call talking about protecting peace before we ever talked about productivity. We explored how peace becomes the foundation and how to guard it, how to remain connected to the vine, how fruit flows naturally from abiding. And then, and only then, how that peace begins overflowing into every area of your life. Your time, your finances, your home, work, relationships, not because you're trying harder, because you're remaining closer. The closer I stay to Jesus, the lighter everything else becomes. I honestly believe this is the message God has been writing on my heart for years. I just finally have the words for it. Because what he's been showing me is this organization, it's the doorway. Stewardship is the journey. But peace is the foundation it all stands on. And once that foundation is in place, everything else begins to look different. Not necessarily easier, just different. Because you're no longer building your life from pressure, you're building it from a place of peace. So where does this leave us? If peace comes first, if abiding comes before achieving, and if stewardship is the goal instead of striving, what actually changes for you tomorrow morning? Because I never want these podcast episodes to simply inspire you, although that is nice. I want them to help you live differently. And that's really what we've been unpacking inside this month's coaching haul inside the She's Organized Hub. Not just what is peace, but how do we actually steward it? How do we live from that place? Because I think that's where so many women get stuck. We have these beautiful moments with God. We read our Bible, we spend time praying, or perhaps maybe not as much as we'd like. We leave church on a Sunday encouraged, and then Monday happens. The kids are arguing. Breakfast is burning if you even get a chance to cook it. The phone's ringing, the washing machine is beeping, and I don't know, someone spilled their cereal. Oh my goodness, I feel like it all happens at once, right? And suddenly the peace we experienced feels like it disappeared. But maybe it didn't disappear. Maybe it simply just wasn't protected. One of the biggest things God has been teaching me is that peace isn't fragile. It's precious. And because it's precious, it deserves to be stewarded. That's why inside the hub this month, we talked about things like protecting our intention, creating margin, living from a place of abiding, what that actually means. Learning to steward every area of our lives. Because peace isn't something we keep on a shelf. It's something we carry into every decision. And for

Giving God Your First

Mel 33:18

me, one of the biggest practical changes has been learning to give God my first. Now, let me explain what I mean. It isn't a rule, it's not about legalism or anything here. If you don't wake up at five o'clock, God's not gonna, you know, withdraw his blessings from you or anything. I'm not saying that kind of stuff. Different seasons, different times. I get it. I've gone through the whole newborn stage and toddlers climbing to bed. I'm in that toddler stage still. I've had mornings where someone wakes up sick, uh, other mornings where I had to start work early. It isn't about the clock. It's about the heart. It's about first. Something that the Lord revealed to me earlier this year when I journaled like 18 pages, he wanted my first. When I intentionally give God my first attention, everything else seems to just find its rightful place. It's not perfect or even great sometimes, but it's consistent. Whoever receives your first attention will usually set shape the rest of your day. So if I do get time to sit down with my Bible in journal before I pick up my phone or spend just 20 minutes talking to him, sometimes it's just five minutes in the morning, not even because I've already hear my youngest calling out. But instead of jumping up and running to him, I just spend a couple minutes talking to the Lord. Sometimes it's simply just praying while I make breakfast because that's the season I'm in. The point isn't perfection on any of this or following any set rules. It's about posture. Because I've realized when my first conversation is with God, the rest of my conversations change. I have a lot more to give to my kids. I'm not so short-tempered. You know, all of it. When my first thoughts are centered on his truth, the lies don't seem to be quite so loud. And when my first response is surrender, and my goodness, it's probably been the hardest thing I've ever had to learn. But everything has become lighter despite a lot of my circumstances not even changing. God isn't asking for your perfect routine, he's inviting you into a posture of putting him first. And I've noticed this principle showing up in other areas of my life too. When I honor God with my first of my income, things change. And let's be really clear, I'm not talking about a prosperity message here. I'm certainly not saying if you give God this, you'll automatically become wealthy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not talking about that. There have been months where unexpected expenses came one after another, even this year. There have been moments when I've cried and prayed because I didn't know how God was going to provide. Do you know what he did provide? Wisdom, direction, correction. I've still got an amazing husband and a great family support system around me. He revealed areas where I'd unknowingly allowed fear to make decisions for me. He exposed places where I'd believed lies instead of his truth. He showed me areas where the enemy had been quietly gaining a foothold, a legal foothold, even, because of things I hadn't surrendered. And I honestly don't think I would have seen those things if I hadn't stayed faithful. Because faithfulness keeps us close enough to hear his voice and to allow for that correction and that shift in direction. Sometimes God's greatest provision isn't changing your circumstances. It's simply changing your perspective. And that is a lot about what I do as a coach is actually helping you see things from a different perspective. Can I encourage you with something? Maybe this week, don't try to change your whole life and get another planner and create 17 new routines. Just ask one simple question of the Lord. Where are you inviting me to put you first? Maybe it's your first thoughts in the morning. Maybe it's the first 10 minutes of your lunch break or your first response instead of just reacting to a situation. Could be your finances, could be other things. God honors a surrendered heart. And this month's coaching call, the She's organized hub, became one of my favorite calls we've ever done. Because together we explored what this actually looks like, not just in theory, but the actual practice of it. We unpacked six big areas. We talked about peace as your starting place, not your reward. We looked at how to guard your mind and protect your peace in a world constantly competing for your attention. We explored John 15 and what it really means to abide before you produce. We talked about how peace flows into every area of stewardship, your time, money, home, work, relationships, a lot. We looked at simple, practical ways to steward peace this week in the weeks to come. Then we finished with learning to trust God with tomorrow instead of carrying tomorrow already today. There's so much more depths in that coaching haul than I can ever fit into one of these podcast episodes. The replay is there, it's up, it's ready to watch, the slides are there, the slides are full of information. I've got a lot that you can take away. And the discussions are there, the resources are there, and perhaps even more importantly, the community of women are already in there ready to support you on your journey as well.

Join The Hub And Final Takeaway

Mel 39:39

If you've been listening today and something inside of you has been saying, This is what I've been missing, I'd love to invite you into the hub. Not because I think another membership changes your life, but because transformation rarely happens in one conversation. It happens through consistency and through consistently returning to God's truth. It happens through being encouraged and also being challenged, being reminded and walking alongside other women who are choosing peace over pressure. And as I've finished today, I want to leave you with one final thought. For years I thought organization would lead me to peace. Now I know peace leads me to wise stewardship, and wise stewardship creates order. Can you hear the difference? One starts with me, the other starts with Jesus. The world teaches us to organize our calendars and organize our lives, but Jesus begins by organizing our hearts. And maybe that's the message God has been writing on my heart all along. Not become more organized, but come closer, remain, receive my peace, then faithfully steward what I've placed in your hands. That's the heart of she's organized. Not perfection, not performance or pressure, peace. Because when your heart is anchored in Christ, everything else begins to find its rightful pace. Not all at once. It's certainly not perfect, but faithfully, and I think that's what Paul meant when he wrote in Philippians 4.17, and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. That peace doesn't always make sense. It doesn't always match our circumstances, but it's real. I've experienced it. I'm still learning how to live from it. And my prayer is that you will too. Thank you for the time that you have spent listening to this today. I really hope this episode encouraged you. I'd love you to share it with anyone else that you feel this would encourage. And even if you don't have a relationship with Jesus yet, I encourage you to reach out, to reach out to a local church or someone that can help you walk through this. But I would also love to help you walk through this if you feel like I'm someone that can help you with this. And I'd love to welcome you inside the She's Organized Hub as well. We go deeper in these conversations. I'm there as a coach to support you on the practical things, but also the mental and the spiritual things too. So until next time, just remember this. Peace isn't the reward for getting organized. Peace is the foundation that allows you to faithfully enjoy the life. God has entrusted. If you like this episode, don't forget to hit subscribe so you don't miss what's coming next. And if you want to continue the conversation, you can connect with me on Instagram @shes.organised or for some free resources, head over to beyondorganised.com/toolkit. Remember, organising is a tool to live the purposeful life beyond it. See you next time.