Ep 8: Why Faith, Celibacy & Vision are Keys to a Kingdom Marriage

Have you ever wondered how to navigate relationships while building your business? What happens when God asks you to quit the habits that feel good but lead nowhere?

Welcome back to the Crafted for Glory podcast! In this heart-filled episode, Jasmine sits down with her husband James for an honest conversation about their journey from college introductions to Kingdom marriage. From cultural differences and celibacy to faith-led entrepreneurship, they unpack what it means to grow individually and together—with God at the center.

If you’re a Christian entrepreneur, faith-driven leader, or someone navigating singleness or marriage with purpose, this episode will bless you deeply.

Welcome back to Crafted for Glory, the podcast where faith, inspiration, entrepreneurship, and creativity collide! In this episode, we dive into the power of community for faith-based entrepreneurs and Christian leaders. Whether you're starting a business, growing in leadership, or simply feeling isolated, this episode will encourage you to step out, build meaningful relationships, and embrace God’s design for community.

🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• How They Met – The real story behind Jasmine and James' first encounter at a campus PNC (and who really made the first move).
• Biblical Entrepreneurship in Practice – James’ journey from corporate job offers to founding a purpose-driven business.
• Faith in the Dating Season – Why they chose celibacy and how it brought spiritual clarity to their relationship.
• Kingdom Mindset in Marriage – Redefining success, intimacy, and leadership as a creative couple.
• Quitting for Growth – The behaviors they had to leave behind to build a marriage rooted in faith.

✨ Key Takeaways:

• “You don’t quit the person—you quit the patterns that dishonor who God called you to be.”
• “Faith and optimism are the same thing—we just call know Faith is connected to Jesus.”
• “Real growth in marriage happens when you stop counting sacrifices and start out-serving each other.”
  
  
  

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Bible Verse: Romans 12:2 – “Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by 

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Transcript

James EP

What's up Crafted for Glory family. I'm so pumped and so excited 

because we are back for episode eight. Now I don't know about you, but 

this episode might be one of my favorites because I'm so excited.

I get the opportunity and the honor to dive into relationships, okay, 

marriage, dating season. I'm going to be talking about how I met my 

husband. You know, one thing that I think is really cool about the season 

of dating to marriage and relationships is marriage and dating are one of 

those nuanced topics that I feel like a lot of like creatives or 

entrepreneurs or leaders, they kind of put it to the side, like deep down 

in their heart, they want it, but they put it to the side.

So we about to dive in. I'm so pumped. I can't wait to introduce you to 

this special guest.

Okay. I like to say, I'm not going to hype him up too much, but he's so 

amazing and I'm so grateful to have him on here, but I'm introducing you 

to my one and only husband forever and always, James. Let me just give 

y'all just a picture.

So this, this, this guy, right, I met him at the PNC bank on campus. Okay.

When I met him and I was walking, I definitely met this guy and I was 

like, I don't want to talk to him.

I had no intent, none at all. I actually was introducing him and he's like, 

he's laughing at us over here, but I actually was introducing him to my 

modeling team that I had on campus at Towson University. And he, to 

this day, he'll get to tell his side of the story, but I wanted to tell it first.

He, to this day, thinks that I walked up to him with the intentions to 

spend the rest of my life with this man. And I just want to set the record 

straight. So Crafted for Glory, if this is your first time tuning in with us, 

you are welcome here.

It doesn't mean that you have to be a perfect Christian. You just have to 

be a progressing person. So it is an honor and a tribute to have some 

time with you today.

So whether you're watching online, maybe you're listening in your car as 

you're traveling somewhere. I want you to know that you are in the right 

place at the right time, and you too are Crafted for Glory. So welcome to 

Crafted for Glory where faith, entrepreneurship, and creativity collide.

Now let's get into it. Y'all ready? Hi husband. Hey, hey baby.

How you doing? You just make me so... I first want to say, this is 

amazing. You've been amazing. Don't do this.

You've been so in your faith and your word and to see how this came out 

and see how this is coming out. I'm so proud of you. Every single day, I 

see what you do.

I see how much time and work you put in, and I love how God is moving 

in your life right now. So we're not going to start with lies though. So lies

is not what we're going to start with.

How are we starting with a lie? We're giving the truth. So, okay. Mind 

you, this is the interview.

I'm interviewing you. Okay. Okay.

So let's get into it. First things first, I don't even want to give a full bio of 

your life. I feel like you do this really well, and I want to add to it, but I 

would think you should tell the people who you are, where you're from, 

all the things.

Who is James? Okay. Tell us. Okay.

Yeah. So I'm James Andorful I am your husband.

Mrs. Andorful, to be exact. Yeah, Mrs. Andorful I am originally from 

Prince George's County, Maryland.

I'm right on the outskirts of Washington, D.C. I'm born and raised. I am 

Ghanian, 100%, 110% Ghanian. Both parents from Ghana.

Everybody's from Ghana in my family, so Ghanian. I am a son, a husband,

I am a brother, I am a business owner, I am an entrepreneur, I am a 

Cowboys fan. I have to put that in there.

Don't be fighting in my comments, y'all. That is a part of who I am at this 

point, because we need prayer for that, so pray for us, please. Okay.

Pray for the Cowboys. So yeah, I grew up in Prince George's County, 

Maryland, two-parent household, both immigrants from Ghana, West 

Africa. Grew up in more of a lower-class environment, then we moved to 

more of a middle-class environment, so I got a chance to see the best of 

both worlds.

Went from not ever seeing grass, people with lawns or anything like that,

so seeing that growing up in the middle school, high school time frame 

was pretty interesting, and seeing how people acted a little bit differently

and how people were operating in life was a little bit different, so got a 

chance to see both sides. Went to college, went to Towson University. 

First I went to Allegheny College of Maryland, which was a two-year 

school, two-year community college that had dorms.

It was like the only one in Maryland. Oh, I can't wait to get into this. It 

was the only one in Maryland, right? Went there first.

I never, ever, ever lived on campus, so I don't know what it looks like to 

live on campus. My first... I was 17 years old. Soon as I got to college at 

Allegheny, I immediately started living in an apartment complex, so I got 

a chance to live in an apartment on my own at 17.

Crazy experience. Yeah. We're probably going to talk about that later.

You were in the mountains, weren't you? I was in the mountains. Yeah, 

that's crazy. The landlord said, yeah, sometimes you may hear the 

cougars in the mountains.

I would have ran out of there. I'm like, bro, what you talking about, 

cougar? So he said that, and I still live there, and I still decided to go. 

Every single day, I went to my guidance counselor and said, I got to 

transfer out of here.

I don't want to be here. Every day? Every single day. Wow.

But I felt like I'm not a quitter, so when things are tough, I just keep 

going through it. So I ended up graduating out of that school, and then I 

went to Towson University, where I met you. The love of your life.

The love of my life. I met you at a PNC. Yes.

You were with one of my childhood friends, and I saw my childhood 

friend. I was like, oh, wow. I didn't know you went to this school.

I met you. You immediately pursued me and asked me for- Guys, I had to 

set the record straight before we started, because this was going to come

up. ... immediately pursued me and said, what is your Instagram? We're 

married now, so clearly, that shows that you were scouting the land 

before I scouted the land.

Listen. Can we set the real record straight? Okay. Listen.

At this time in my life, I was the president of a modeling team on my 

campus, and I was already recruiting. Come on. Where's my creative 

community to know that casting directors recruit? Okay.

So in college, I was recruiting. I mean, I will have to say, you was very 

handsome still, but I was recruiting. I was like, okay, I want to be on my 

team.

Lift up your hand and look at your hand. You have a wedding ring on. So 

we're married now, so that means you're scouting the land.

Anyway, so I met you, went to Towson, still never lived on campus, living 

off campus my whole entire college career. I've really got a chance to 

understand the value of a dollar, understand how to live on my own, how 

to be an adult. So all those things happened in college.

A lot of ups and downs happened in college. I really felt like college 

shaped me for who I am, for the things that happened, not for school 

reasons, but more life reasons. So graduated from there, started in the 

marketing and sales field, started as an entry-level marketing and sales 

representative.

The guy that originally trained me ended up getting promoted and 

getting his own location of marketing and sales field. I decided to take a 

chance and go with him. So I went from Maryland to Boston, then from 

Boston I got a chance to get promoted and I ran my own location, started

my business in the state of Rhode Island.

So I went from Maryland to Boston to Rhode Island. So then from Rhode 

Island, I got a chance to expand and go to Staten Island. So I went to 

Staten Island.

And then from Staten Island, I went to Wall Street, from Wall Street, now

in Jersey City. And then we got married and now we're here. Yeah.

So good. Babe, I feel like there's so much to unpack with your story. It's 

just so many pieces that you shared from the moment you were at 

Allegheny, what Allegheny taught you, to you then moving and going to 

Towson.

So now you're in a new state, new school. From then, you starting the 

entrepreneurship journey, right? Now, mind you, as we mentioned, my 

husband is Ghanaian, so he comes from an African household. So going 

straight into entrepreneurship was not like the thing that everybody sets 

out to do.

So, babe, tell the people and just anyone that could be listening that may 

identify the same way, how did you pursue that knowing that this is 

something that your family absolutely did not want you to do? Yeah. 

Yeah. I can definitely talk about that.

I mean, in the African household, in the African community, there's only 

three jobs that produce success in the mind frame of the African 

household. Right. Engineering, anything dealing with medical, and 

anything dealing with law.

Those three are the only three that produces results to the African 

household. Now for me, I pursued law. That's what I went to school for.

I went to school for criminal justice and sociology, and I ended up, I 

wanted to be a lawyer, but I think I really wanted to be a lawyer because 

that's what my parents were instilling in me. You've been a great lawyer, 

though. I probably would be.

But I just felt like, I remember what really shaped me from wanting to do 

this entrepreneurship journey was when I was in college, and I was 

studying for an exam at like 5 a.m. I pulled an all-nighter, and I'm like, 

will I ever use this acting exam ever again? Will I ever use this script 

ever again? And I turned it off, and I started watching Shark Tank. 

Really? So I'm like, I can do the same thing that these guys are doing. 

These guys breathe the same air.

They have the same 24 hours of life that I do. Why can't I do exactly what

they're doing? So I'm like, let me just try to pursue something that makes

sense. Then I started thinking, why did our parents come to this country?

They came to this country to provide opportunity.

So if they were in the same age range as I was, and they found an 

opportunity, what would they do? They would take an opportunity. So 

when I saw marketing and sales with opportunity versus job, 70K, 80,000

a year, I just wanted to take a chance on myself. But also my internship 

in college, I interned with the Department of Parole and Probation in 

Baltimore.

They offered me like 57,000 a year, and I was like, no. The mailman in 

New York City makes 70,000. Why would I do that? But that's just how I 

think.

So to me, that doesn't make sense numerically. So I feel like my worth 

and my time and those guys on Shark Tank, they would probably say no 

too. So why would I settle myself for that? So if I take a chance on 

myself, which if my parents were to take a chance on themselves, if they 

were the same opportunity that I had, what would they do? They would 

probably do the same thing I did.

That's so good. I think there's a lot of things to unpack with that because 

I find that a lot of times when people are thinking about stepping outside 

of their idea of where they want to go or what they do or how to pursue 

something that maybe their parents probably encouraged them to do, or 

maybe it's everybody in their family has done this one thing, and they're 

like, oh, I feel like the oddball. I feel like I'm the one that's gonna be 

shunned or my family's not gonna love me the same.

And some people actually have had moments like that. I've heard some 

crazy stories, and I'm pretty sure people in the comments can share 

stories that they've had. But what I wanna know really is how has your 

faith helped you throughout that entrepreneurship journey and stepping 

outside of the very thing that you knew was different from what you came

from? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Well, always, my whole life I grew up a Christian, my whole 

entire life. I grew up in like the Methodist church, so that's the hymn 

book reading.

You stand up when they tell you to stand up, you sit down when they tell 

you to sit down. So I was always Christian my whole life, always had faith

my whole life, always tried to emulate how Jesus walked on this earth. I 

always tried my best always to emulate that with all the fruits of the 

spirit, right? I always tried to do that.

I mean, I skipped school, my first tattoo ever was Jesus. My second tattoo

was Jesus. So my third tattoo was my mom, my fourth tattoo was Jesus 

again.

So like- That is fact. Yeah. So I've always been Christian.

So faith is what people that don't have our same belief system. They call 

it optimism, right? It's a good point. Because faith and optimism is the 

same thing.

If you're a Christian, you just call it something different, which is still 

faith. So other people say you have to be optimistic and optimism is 

seeing the grass is green on the other side where you don't see it, right? 

So like when I was in college, I didn't see the other side. It didn't make 

sense to me to continue when I'm living off campus and I'm having 

parties and getting kicked out of this house and got to bribe this person 

to stay with them for three months and all this stuff.

If my dad ever listens to this, he's going to be like, that happened, by the 

way. So he doesn't know that that happened, by the way. We'll send this 

to daddy specifically.

That's fine. But getting kicked out of places over and over and over and 

having parties and all these things, I didn't see like, how can I graduate, 

right? And I don't see light inside them, but the faith that I have within 

myself that Jesus instills in all of us gave me an opportunity to really 

believe and believe that I can see the light of the universe and believe 

and continuously keep going with all the things that I had provided to 

me, right? But also, it's also like when things get tough, don't quit. I 

never quit anything I've ever done.

I didn't quit. I either got fired or, yeah, I only had three jobs in my life 

and I got fired from all of them ever. But I never quit.

I don't know what it feels like to quit, you know? So yeah. I mean, I want 

to talk about that part too, because I think a lot of times when it comes to

just our generation now, we're in a season with our generation that 

oftentimes when things get too hard or when things are overwhelming or

we feel like we've reached our brink of a situation, we find ourselves 

ready to quit. Quitting was the first option.

I mean, we're not that older, but I mean, just thinking about where we 

kind of grew up and just how we grew up, we saw a lot of people around 

us push through things, right? When I hear you say, just don't quit, I 

think about the times where one of my aunts, I seen her working a long 

job, a nine-to-five, and it was just long, and then she had to come home, 

take care of my grandmother, and then she had to take care of me and 

then her children and all of these things. And so I've been surrounded by 

a lot of women who have that personality of just don't quit. But I kind of 

want to jump into a piece on the latter side of, we have the side where 

people are like, oh, I'm ready to quit.

But what about those people who have kind of been trucking along? 

They've been doing all the things that they need to do, but they have no 

patience for slowing down. They're like, I got to keep going. And I really 

want you to unpack this in the marriage aspect of, how has marriage and 

singleness changed for you when it comes to don't quit? Yeah.

Yes. That's a really good question. I first want to talk about quitting, 

right? It's okay to quit, but you have to quit a habit, routine, something 

that compromises your integrity.

You quit that. That's good, baby. You don't quit on something that's hard.

You just don't quit. You graduate. You don't quit.

Kobe Bryant graduated to retirement. He didn't quit basketball. That's 

great.

Great perspective. So you leave honorably. People that retire, they quit.

People that graduate from high school, they quit high school, but it was 

honorable. They honorably graduated. And for the question you asked 

me, how do you navigate through relationships and marriage? When 

things get tough, you probably have to look at yourself and quit 

something that you're doing personally.

So good. So something in you, you got to quit. Maybe it's a habit, routine,

some kind of self-stature, self-discipline that you're not alluding to.

Maybe it's something within you that you have to quit. You don't quit on a

person. You don't quit on a position.

You don't quit on the title. You don't quit on somebody. You quit 

something that you're doing wrong.

You stop that, and then you have to elevate. Babe, that is amazing. 

Honestly, I feel like the breakdown of that was fire.

And if somebody ain't taking notes, I'm going to tell you this for every 

podcast. Take notes. Don't do it while you're driving, but take it if you are

arrested somewhere.

But I want to unpack that because I think that just to share a little bit of 

our story, we had moments where we had to quit. Yeah, true. Right? 

Yeah.

And it wasn't necessarily quitting the person, but we had to quit some of 

our habits, some of our behaviors, and things like that, and I want to 

unpack that. But I also had the thought of just giving context. A lot of 

people don't know our full story.

I mean, honestly, after we had that encounter at PNC, we actually didn't 

date in college. We would just see each other around through mutual 

friends, and I will always, whenever I tell this story to any young woman 

that ever asks me, I'm always like, yeah, I used to see him. I didn't want 

to talk to him, because why? He was so handsome.

But I used to run from you, because I was just like, I just can't. You're 

just so special. That is true.

You used to run from me. I did. I would be like, is that Jase? Ah! Run.

I just felt like I needed to run. And part of it was because my area of my 

life at the time in that season, I felt like I wasn't ready for the man that 

you were, and I didn't want to be hurt by that. Right? And so I would run 

and do whatever, and just stay focused on school, and plus, I also was 

really, really busy.

I mean, you can attest to that. Being in school was really, really, really 

tough. But I think about the moment after school, right? So we graduated

together.

We actually, remember, everybody, you talked about how you moved 

from state to state. We dated throughout that whole time, long distance. 

So we dated for four years.

We got engaged on the fifth year, and the whole time, we were long 

distance, right? And the other portion that is really a big key to where I 

feel like the quitting, which I want to talk about, is I felt like in that 

season of our life, we had to quit our behaviors. And some of our 

behaviors were toxic. I mean, they weren't healthy.

They weren't good for us. And one of the behaviors that comes to my 

mind specifically is intimacy. When I think about early on in our dating 

season, whenever we would be intimate, it was chaos, right? Yeah, all the

time.

And it wasn't until I rededicated my life to Christ, you kind of started 

going back to church and getting back in your word, and you can attest 

to what you feel like your experience was. But I know when I rededicated

my life to Christ, God was like, this is one thing that has to stop. And I 

want to talk about those quitting of those types of behaviors, because I 

feel like in the creative community, Christian community, leadership 

community, I feel like we don't talk about quitting behaviors in an 

honorable way.

And that season, so I want to say first year, we had that year of intimacy, 

and then the final three and a half years, no, four years, was it four, three

and a half? I would say the final four years, no, because we restarted, so 

technically, yeah, four years we were celibate. Yeah. We were celibate.

So that was one of the biggest behaviors that came to my mind. But for 

you, and maybe you can unpack that too, but what would you say is one 

thing that you had to quit in order for you to cultivate the marriage that 

we're in now? Yeah, I love talking about this topic with men. Because 

men have the power, right? Men are called to lead.

And the number one thing that causes men to fall is the, what is that 

scripture, the speckle in the eye? What is that scripture? Which one? Of 

the speckle in that person's eye, when you look at something is the lust 

aspect of things. So men can easily get distracted very fast, especially 

when it's something lustful, right? And I felt like that was happening to 

me, especially for men that either see pornography early or men that 

have intimacy early. When they see that early, it takes over their life.

And I didn't even know I was addicted to it. I had no idea until I stopped. 

Until you said, if we're going to take this relationship serious, which 

that's why you have to have a strong woman like my wife.

Better than me. Have a strong woman that will set boundaries, say, if 

we're going to take this serious, we got to stop doing this. And I said, 

okay, I'll do it.

So stopped doing everything. I quit all of it. I didn't watch any 

pornography.

I have not masturbated in seven years. Wow, beautiful. At all.

Zero, nothing. Cold turkey. Don't do it at all.

And I feel like a lot of guys, men struggle with that. And that alone, for 

people that deal with that, the people that struggle with that, that is what

kind of blocks them from seeing, from having a clear vision of like, I don't

know why I'm still single. I don't know where my wife is, or it's ghetto out

here.

Our favorite term. Everybody's the same. It's ghetto out here.

All these women are this, but you're masturbating every day. So you can't

see. Wow.

You can't even tell what's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't even 

like unpack it.

You don't have a clear vision because everything is like, you know, Devon

Franklin has this book called The Way of the Dog, and he literally broke 

down like how dogs and men are literally this almost the same when it 

comes to like the etymology of how they are. Like men, like a dog sees 

another dog and they can't help it. They want to hump.

A guy sees something and they kind of the same. So it's like, for me, I 

was dealing with that. I didn't even know I was.

Wow. So what, at what point did, I know you mentioned it a little bit, but 

for those that might be listening that are like, all right, dude, I hear you 

are a guy like, that's cute. But like, how do I know that I'm even like 

having these issues, right? Or if I were to sit there and say to myself, like,

no, like, I think I'm good.

Like it's self-pleasing to me, right? Like what would you say to them or 

even your younger self that you wish someone said to you when you were

that age? Yeah. I just wish someone when I was that age and I wish 

somebody would have told me like how it would have like some kind of 

stronghold over me where I started looking at people like their, like I 

start treating people like their items, like women, not people, start 

treating women like items, or I start to believe in some of the, the 

cultural aspects of like, you just do this and you just hit it and do this and

you hit it and quit it. But it's like, it does, it actually causes more harm.

And I even, I was, I was talking to somebody the other day, I'm like, every

time you have this friends with benefits situation, how does it end up 

every single time? Come on, write it down. Ask yourself. How does it end 

up? I've never seen a 12 year friends with benefits.

I've never seen it in my life. It ends terrible always because it's out of, it's

out of order. Yeah.

Yeah. And, and it has me thinking about even like those seasons of my 

life. I mean, I shared this before, but because I lost my virginity so early 

when I was just 12 years old, I saw literally in my day to day how 

intimacy with a man shifted who I was.

It could be before I probably didn't lie, but then I had sex with a man who

was a liar and then I started lying. Or before I didn't steal, I had sex with 

a man that did steal or was, you know, out here doing X, Y, and Z. And I 

started to adopt those traits and I knew it and I saw that my character 

was shifting, but I wasn't ready to face that. And it wasn't until I had an 

encounter with God and he's like, I remember you, you did this so well, 

babe, because that's why I love you.

You're so wise. Because I remember when I told you, I was like, babe, 

like, I remember I was sitting on the toilet in my apartment and I was so 

nervous to tell you, like, my hands were sweating. I was like, this man 

gonna leave me.

I tell him, we ain't having sex, he out. Like Lord, you must be finding me 

a new husband because I thought he was going to be my husband and I 

think he going to leave. So we going to try it.

I remember calling you up and I said, I said, babe, so I gotta, I gotta tell 

you something. And I'm sitting there and I remember sitting on the toilet 

and I was like, babe, yeah, I would like to be abstinent and, um, I feel 

called to this. And I remember it was like, this felt like 10 minutes of 

silence, but it was probably like a couple of minutes, a second or so.

You asked me this really great question that I think anybody listening to 

this could take with them. You said, do you want to be celibate and 

abstinent because someone told you you should be, or do you actually 

want to do it for you? And I was like, wow, like that made me realize over

and over again, how many times in your spiritual growth or the things 

that you do, you wind up doing things for other people when it really is 

for you. And I remember talking to you in that moment and I said, no, I 

want to do this because I want to get closer to God.

I want to do this because I wanted healing in my life. I didn't know what 

that healing was going to look like, but I knew that if I made this 

decision, it would have not only been healthy for me, but it would have 

helped us. And it did.

I thank God for that blessing, which leads me to that next portion. When 

we think about just the overwhelming gratitude of how God constantly 

shows up in our conversations, right on our day to day. So we're here.

We got married three years ago. Praise God. So grateful.

We're actually going to be celebrating three years this year, and I'm so 

grateful that we got to celebrate that. But I wind up thinking about some 

really key aspects that maybe somebody that's married now is trying to 

figure out, okay, what do I wish I knew? Maybe they're in their first year 

of marriage. So I want to ask you this is, what is one advice you would 

give to someone who has some of the experiences you have? Maybe 

they're an entrepreneur.

Maybe they grew up in an African household. What are some of those 

experiences you might share or advice you would share for someone in 

their first year of marriage that you wish you knew? Yeah. Definitely try 

to out serve your spouse.

Don't mark how many times you've done something for somebody. Don't 

count how many times you've done something for somebody. Just do it 

knowing that you unconditionally love that person.

So just do it under that notion. So always go above and beyond. Dates as 

well.

Yeah. That's great. Don't stop dating.

I mean, we don't have children yet. We're going to, and the rest of us are 

going to have children. But I always hear that people stop dating when 

kids come, but you know, just don't believe in those.

Also don't believe what people say. Yeah, that's good. You did that really 

well.

What do I say? I say this all the time. Jasmine will tell you this. I say this 

all the time.

I always say marriage is not hard. I don't subscribe to that. I don't 

subscribe to that at all.

People that say that are negative. I don't subscribe to that. Now there's 

certain aspects that are difficult, but marriage is not.

This is the best thing I've ever done in my life, in my entire life. I've 

gotten blessed more since I got married. Yes, we both have.

And that's biblical too. That's in the Bible. Like that's God's biggest thank

you, is getting married.

So this is not hard. I don't know what's, there's nothing hard about it. 

There's seasons where things and traits in the person changes.

So it's like playing Pokemon. Babe, okay. I'm sorry.

But it's like playing Pokemon though. How do you play Pokemon? So like 

things evolve, like you catch the Pokemon, the thing got to evolve. Not 

the thing, but the Pokemon.

So as a Pokemon evolves, it learns new moves, right? So like you 

changed from the first time I, you know, from the first year, second year, 

you've changed. So I can't be like, well, back then you were different. 

Why would I do that? You know? I think that leads to a really great point 

too, baby, is like, I think between your dating season, I think the dating 

season specifically, I can speak to myself, is like that was the time that 

God was cultivating and preparing me, not because marriage is for 

everyone.

I just want to be clear. The Bible says that marriage is not necessarily for

everyone. And if you decide not to get married, you should be serving the

kingdom of God, man or woman.

But if you have a burning sensation and you cannot stop having intimacy 

outside of marriage, then you should go ahead and get married because 

it's better to do so. It doesn't say you can't, but it's better to do so. But 

you have God's best when you do that.

And I think that that's a key aspect about how blessings and growth 

happens when you do decide to do that, if it's a desire in your heart. I had

to remember that when we first got married is like, our marriage didn't 

have to look like everybody else's, right? And I think that that's the 

beauty of being married and cultivating a deeper intimacy with your 

husband or your wife, is that you get to create this thing together with 

God in the most beautiful and wonderful way. And so as we get ready to 

close up and just kind of wrap up before I do these rapid fire questions, I 

would say the last question I would say, what I would love to ask you, 

babe, is if you could do anything, you know, different in the season of 

your singleness, maybe what would you say that would be? That's a good 

question.

If I can do something different in my singleness, I feel like I would just, I 

feel like I'll prep better for what to expect culturally, right, what to 

expect, I would prep you and your fam culturally of what to like, what our

differences are. So it's not like a surprise. And this is for people that may 

have, you know, significant others that may be from a different culture.

Of course. Right. Or not even just a different culture.

Just maybe different upbringing. Right. That's good.

So prep like the norms. Right. So for you, I remember you, you would be 

like, every time I get on a flight, you would like text me and email me 

your itinerary.

I'm like, for what? Like, why would I do that? But that's culturally you, 

your sisters, your mom, we all do that. I just tell my dad, hey, I'm going 

on a flight, you're like, all right, just, you know, see you soon. See you 

soon.

It's hilarious. We're African. So, you know, that's how we operate.

So it's just like, but I've been like, why would I do that? But like that type 

of prep of like our cultural differences, household differences or what 

was what we're used to. So if something is, if something is like, like you 

can't eat a sandwich without chips, I don't understand why. It's a cookout

thing.

You eat sandwiches? But to me, it's like, why do you need chips? But 

that's something that's small is like, I just, I need to understand that both

ways. You need to understand what I'm just normally used to. I need to 

understand what you're normally used to.

So it's not like we're two foreign people coming together. So that's the 

only thing I would, I would say I would change, but nothing, I would 

really nothing else besides that. I love that.

I mean, I think regardless of like what we went through and our season 

of chaos and then our season of, you know, learning each other and all of 

that, I mean, I really believe that God ordained everything, you know, for 

this very moment because we're called to be generous and we're called 

to bless other people with our story and our journey. And so I'm so, so 

grateful that you were able to share all of that with us. I have some rapid 

fire questions.

You ready? Let's go. If you could make your life a book, what would the 

title be? Risk. Risk.

Ooh, that's such a you. I love that. That's so you.

Okay. My next question is, what is your favorite food? Hands down. You 

cannot live without it.

Fufu and light soup. Ghanaian fufu and light soup. Okay.

Not, I'm just going to keep it at that. Don't, don't yell at us in your 

comments. We're Ghanaian here, but don't yell at us in your comments.

Okay. My next question is, what is the one thing you learned last year 

that you have to apply this year in your life? Act your age. No, act your 

wage, not your age.

Okay. Act your wage, not your age. Act your wage, not your age.

Okay. Okay. I love that.

Okay. And then last but not least, almost last but not least, what is your 

favorite quote that you live by? I've got a lot. Never follow a leader that's 

not following a leader.

That's so good. Yeah. I live by that.

Wow. I'm about to start adding that to my repertoire. Yeah.

That's so good. People following themselves and listening to themselves 

and then being led by themselves. That's a scary human being.

That's good. Okay. Last one.

It's about to be a war in the comments. Nigerian Jollof or Ghanaian Jollof.

Come on now.

There's no need to even ask that question. I'm just kidding. Well, we 

know we love all things Ghanaian Jollof, but I'm so grateful, baby, that 

you have joined us on this podcast.

Well, babe, I mean, honestly, it's an honor to have you on this episode. I 

know I get to talk to you every day, but to share this space and to be 

vulnerable like you did. Of course, I would have loved to dive more into 

the business space, but I feel like we gave the people what they needed.

This is amazing. Yeah, I'm so honored. I love you so much.

I love you more. So much. Crafted for Glory, that is the end of episode 

eight.

Come on. I am so excited for what God's going to do. I pray that this 

blesses you.

I pray that this heals you. And if you don't know, now you do. Let's get 

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And the next episode is coming towards you soon. Babe, I want to pray. 

Actually, I want you to pray us out.

All right. Yeah. Pray us out and then we'll wrap up.

Okay. Dear Heavenly Father, we say thank you for bringing us together 

for this wonderful and beautiful podcast where this wonderful and 

beautiful woman that you gave me. We pray for her life.

We pray for all the things that she's looking for to come in abundance. 

We pray for all the subscribers and all the people that's listening. We 

pray that they get a word and get something from this.

And we just pray for fruit to come out of all that we're doing currently 

within the people that's listening and also within our lives as well. In 

Jesus name we pray. Amen.

Amen. Amen. Thank you, baby.

I love that. Thanks so much. Crafted for Glory fam, thank you so much for

joining us.

It is an honor and a privilege to have you. I pray that you are blessed by 

this. I pray that you get an opportunity to kind of take some time to think 

about some of the things we chatted about.

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So thank you so much for joining us. And you must remember that you 

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