Storming The Gates Podcast Episode with Bishop Eugene Taylor
Storming the Gates Podcast with Bishop Eugene Taylor
Welcome to the "Storming the Gates" podcast, hosted by Bishop Eugene Taylor, designed for believers seeking to deepen their understanding of spiritual victory. This podcast serves as a guiding light for anyone looking to navigate the challenges of life with faith and resilience.
In each episode, Bishop Taylor and his guests delve into biblical principles that empower listeners to confront and overcome the attacks of the enemy. Through insightful discussions, personal anecdotes, and scriptural teachings, he provides practical strategies for walking in victory and embracing an abundant life as promised in scripture.
Listeners can expect a blend of theological insights and actionable advice that encourages them to strengthen their faith while equipping them to face adversities with confidence. Whether you’re seeking comfort, inspiration, or practical guidance, "Storming the Gates" aims to foster a community of believers committed to thriving in their spiritual journeys.
Join us as we explore how to stand firm in faith, wield the power of prayer, and declare victory in every area of life. Tune in and start your journey towards living victoriously today!
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Storming The Gates Podcast Episode with Bishop Eugene Taylor
Storming the Gates with Dr. Chris Burton
Dr. Burton, a respected prophet, pastor, musician, and author serving as Senior Pastor of Recovery House in Atlanta, shares his journey from Brooklyn to establishing ministries across multiple locations. He reveals that his greatest passion lies in teaching—equipping believers with knowledge that transforms them from merely saved individuals into purposeful disciples walking in their divine calling.
The conversation takes a powerful turn when examining the prophetic ministry's role in modern times. Unlike the often-mishandled demonstrations of prophecy many have witnessed, authentic prophetic ministry serves to expose spiritual error and realign believers' focus away from materialism toward genuine connection with God. This function works best when united with other spiritual gifts, particularly the apostolic office, creating a harmonious operation that mirrors the unity found in the Godhead itself.
Perhaps most challenging is Dr. Burton's assertion that "God and ministry are not synonymous"—a distinction many spiritual leaders fail to recognize. He establishes a clear priority hierarchy: God first, family second, ministry third. This ordering challenges those who use ministry as an escape from family responsibilities, staying unnecessarily long on trips or pouring excessive resources into church activities while neglecting their households. The biblical principle is clear—neglecting family while claiming to serve God makes one "worse than an infidel."
In our anxiety-ridden world, Dr. Burton's teaching on stillness offers particular relevance. Using the powerful metaphor that "a car cannot be refueled on the highway," he illustrates how spiritual replenishment requires intentional pauses. Many approach prayer ready to speak but not to listen, missing divine guidance that comes only through creating quiet, private moments with God.
Well, god bless you. My friend, you've tuned into the Storming the Gates podcast with Bishop Eugene Taylor. Please remember that we're here every Monday night at 8 pm and we're teaching God's people how to walk in the victory that God has for their life. I'm so blessed to have a dynamic guest on today, a dynamic man of God that I've been blessed and privileged to know down through the years. He is a prophet, he's a man of God, he's a father, he's a husband and he's an integral man of God and he's a prophet to the nations. I want to introduce to you on today Dr Chris Burden, and he is going to carry us. This is going to be an exciting podcast on today. We're going to put a lot of emphasis on the prophetic. He's the senior pastor of the Recovery House and they have ministries in Atlanta. They have ministries in other locations. He's a busy man of God but nevertheless he's on the move for God and being consistent in everything he's doing. God bless you, dr Burton, blessed to have you on today.
Speaker 2:God bless you, chief. God blesses to everybody that's on this morning and to those who are on. We thank God for you. Listen, it's such a privilege and an honor to be with Chief Apostle Bishop Eugene Taylor and I've known him throughout the years, like he said, and I'm just excited to be able to share on this podcast, and there's going to be a glorious and a powerful and a profound time. So you want to listen to what the Lord has to say today as we embark upon the word of the Lord.
Speaker 1:Now listen. I gave you a formal introduction and I know you and I've known you for years and I'm saying all of the good stuff, but the people don't know you. I want to ask you, in front of the people who is Dr Chris Burton?
Speaker 2:Well, dr Chris Burton is a native of Brooklyn, new York. I've been here in Atlanta now for about 25 plus years. Like you said, I'm a father. I'm the husband of one wife, thank God, the prophetess Carmen Burton. I'm an author. I wrote my first book called the Art of Recovery how to Break the Cycles of Dysfunction. I'm a pastor, a friend, but ultimately I'm saved.
Speaker 2:Only goes fielded on fire for the Lord. And so you know, I'm a man that loves to serve. I'm a praying man I believe that man should always pray and not faint. And so you know, I'm a musician, extraordinary songwriter, producer. You know, I can still play the organ just a little bit, just a little bit. But we thank God for the gift that God has given unto us.
Speaker 1:Listen, let me ask you this what is your passion in ministry? Everybody has something that they're passionate about. I'm passionate about prayer and I'm passionate about outreach, and in the recent years I've become more passionate about international ministries. I've traveled the world for many years and now the Lord's really began to highlight Africa in my heart. But what is it that Dr Chris Burton is passionate about?
Speaker 2:Well, chief, one of the things that I'm passionate about is I'm passionate about teaching, and the reason why I'm passionate about teaching is because the word tells us that God's people are destroyed by a lack of knowledge and understanding, and one of the things that I understand is that without strong teaching, we cannot develop and becoming strong disciples, and so one of my greatest passions for ministry is to see the body mature, to see people come into the knowledge and the stature and the revelation and the illumination of God for their lives, because it is possible for you to be saved and still be ignorant to the purpose of God for your life. And this is why the teacher is so important, because the teacher has been given the assignment to equip you not just for the things of God, but for the things of life, and so one of my passions is to teach the body of Christ how to develop the whole man.
Speaker 1:I love that, I love that, I love that, and you know it's so true. And I'm going to tell you something as you begin to talk, what really captured my attention. I know that you came up in a Pentecostal environment and coming up in a Pentecostal environment back in the day, everything was about you being a preacher, preacher, preacher, preacher, preacher, preacher, preacher, preacher. And when we come from that Pentecostal background, we embrace the teaching ministry. Initially it's a challenge, because there's something in us that just want to preach, preach, preach, preach, preach. But you're right, I'm going to tell you something Teaching builds the foundation, Like you said. The Bible said Hosea 4 and 6, my people are destroyed because they didn't know. So we have to have the ministry of the teacher operating in all aspects of the five-fold ministry.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely, because one of the detriments to us Pentecostals is that we love great emotionalism but we hate empowerment and equipping. And so the teaching and the teacher's anointing is one of the most overlooked graces in the body of Christ. But it is the necessity of the body of Christ, because one thing that Jesus was known by was being a master teacher.
Speaker 2:They called him rabbi and so it is important that we understand that, in order for us to grow and to mature and to develop and to become the full posture by which God is calling us to be as the body, we need great teachers.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I agree 100% and I'm going to tell you something. Dr Chris Burton is also Prophet, chris Burton, and I know you operate in the prophetic and I want to talk a little bit about that on today, because the prophetic is needed. You know, many people have been spooked when they've seen the prophetic because they've seen many times people have mishandled the gift and mishandled the office. But the prophetic is needed in the church. We need it. We need to understand the mind and the heart of God. I want to talk to you a little bit. What place does the prophetic play in this modern church?
Speaker 2:Well, the prophetic in this hour plays a role in the exposing of spiritual error in this hour.
Speaker 1:I believe that one of the greatest assignments of the prophet in this hour is to bring alignment to the vision of the body of Christ.
Speaker 2:I think the focal point has been materialism, and humanism that has caused particular hour is to bring alignment to the focus of what God is really calling for us to do in this hour, and one of the things that the Lord has been dealing with me about is making sure that our affections have been set on him and not on what he is able to do for us, because it is in the shifting of our focus where we get out the will of God, and so I believe that the prophet's job in this hour is to bring alignment to the focus and to the intentions of the heart of the believer.
Speaker 1:I believe that too, and I'm going to tell you something, one of the things when I talk about the prophetic office and the apostolic office, the Bible talks in the book of Ephesians, the second chapter. It lets us know that the apostolic ministry, the prophetic ministry, is the foundation of the church. Many times when I talk about the prophetic ministry, I like to talk about the gatekeeper and the watchman. The watchman is the one that sits high. That's a picture of the prophetic office, that he's able to see what's coming, he's able to express what's coming. But then you have the gatekeeper, and the gatekeeper is a picture of the apostolic ministry, because the gatekeeper, he, controls the flow of traffic that comes in and out. But I'm going to tell you something the only way that this can be done is that the gatekeeper has to hear from the watchman and the watchman has to work along with the gatekeeper.
Speaker 1:Some of the challenges that we've had is that these two offices have tried to operate isolating themselves. They tried to operate independently. God's never called us to operate independently. He said we're the body of Christ, we're the five-fold ministry. The five-fold ministry is the mantle of Jesus Christ broken down into five pieces. I want to talk about the importance of these ministries working together. The unity, because the Bible says when he sees unity he can command a blessing. Let's talk about these offices working together.
Speaker 2:Well, one of the things we have to understand is that everything that God gives in gifting form is a necessity to the overall assignment. And what we have done is that we have minimized the importance of each particular gifting and each particular grace, as if they operate superior from one another. But, truth be told, the grace that God has given us, the gifts that Jesus Christ left us in regards to us, building on the doctrines of the apostles and the prophets, it was never assigned for us to operate independent from one another, but we were always supposed to be operated as one unit. The body says that we are one body but many members, one body but many administrations, but then Paul also tells us that, even though we have these different administrations, it's the same spirit, it's the same grace, and so the way in which the Godhead operates is the same, which the graces of God is.
Speaker 1:I like that, I like that, I like that, I like that. Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:Thank you, sir. And so you know, I think, yes, sir.
Speaker 1:No, no, you go ahead, no, you go ahead, go ahead. You sounded good, let me hear it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I just wanted to just add to the fact that we have to understand that the Bible says that two is better than one. The Bible says that every joint supply, there's something that the apostle adds to the body, something that the prophet adds, something that the pastor, the evangelist and the teacher adds. But anywhere there is contention in the assignment, we cannot operate in the power of unity.
Speaker 1:We must understand the power of unity. When you say that, I'm reminded of Genesis 11, chapter verse four, and when they were building the Tower of Babel. Now, this was not the will of God, but even though it wasn't the will of God, the Bible said God said and the people is one. That's what it said. It didn't say the people are one. So the people is one and it's nothing that they won't be able to accomplish. The people is one and it's nothing that they won't be able to accomplish. It's a grace that comes upon unity, it's a kingdom principle and what the enemy loves to do. The enemy likes to operate divided, operate in division. But when we begin to understand the power of unity and we come back together and tie down all of these divisional walls, we're going to see it and listen to the word I'm going to say.
Speaker 1:We're going to see another measure of glory come to the house, because one of the things that I've been teaching is that we're not just looking for the anointing, we're looking for the glory. We're glory carriers, and that's our objective. Our objective is to see the glory of God come in the house. Now, you know that. I know that you are a preacher, you're an author and all these things, but you also and I didn't even mention it because I'm looking at you as a preacher but you're a phenomenal musician. You're a phenomenal musician. Now, let me say, the reason that I'm bringing this up is because you also understand an aspect that I don't understand to the measure that you do that when we talk about the glory, there's a weight that comes in even in worship. Worship brings in an atmosphere for the gifts to be in operation, for miracles to be manifested. I wanna talk a little bit about that the marriage between the prophetic, the move of God and worship.
Speaker 2:Wow. Now that's phenomenal, Because one thing we got to understand is that there is a depth that comes from a place of worship, and I think what has happened is we have minimized the glory of God to a praise break, a click track, the dancing and the shouting and those things are wonderful, but real glory will change you. Real glory will bring you into a place where you start to look at yourself, like Isaiah did in Isaiah, chapter 6, where he started to look and he saw Christ seated where he was. And the Bible says that Isaiah began to look at himself and say woe is me, I'm a man of unclean lips, I am a man that's in an environment of unclean lips, and so real glory will show you the imperfections, but it will also give you an opportunity to be transformed by that experience. And so real worshipers understand not just what we're worshiping, but who we're worshiping.
Speaker 2:Time when praise God, when he told the woman at the well that there's coming a time when the true worshiper will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. And then he tells them the state and the condition of our worship, that we must do it in spirit and in truth. And so, yes, atmospheres of worship is powerful Atmospheres of worship brings healing and deliverance and restoration. But real atmospheres of worship should bring transformation.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, I love it, I love it, I love it. It calls us to experience the weight of his glory. Now it's going to seem like I'm shifting completely off topic and that's the problem that what I'm giving it to say now the problem is that it is perceived that I'm shifting off the topic when we talk about all of these gifts operating. If the gifts are going to operate effectively and if we're going to be effective in ministry and this podcast is called Storming the Gates In other words, we're storming into those areas that the enemy tries to attack us in and tries to weaken us in One of the things that men and women of God are going to have to understand is about the importance of their family.
Speaker 1:I've seen so many individuals neglect family for ministry, and that's not the will of God. And not only it's not the will of God, it's not sustainable. See, let me say this it's not that, it's just not the will of God. You won't sustain with that. Anyway, you can only go so far with a facade. You can only go so far. Your infrastructure of your life, your family, your children, all of those things have to become a priority. So I guess I'm saying this, Dr Burton, let's talk about family.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, Chief, we got to understand that the family dynamic was the first ministry that God gave Adam.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:We got to understand that God first gave Adam an assignment of occupation. I want you to till the ground. I want you whatever animal you name, that's what is going to be called. God gave Adam a job before God gave Adam a wife, gave Adam a job before God gave Adam a wife, and I believe that what we're finding is that we have people who have made ministry a mistress or made ministry an escape goat to real responsibility. But you really can't manage the things of God if you don't know how to manage the things in your own household.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Bible calls us worse than an infidel if we try to take care of the things of God and leave our families behind. And so we know a lot of pastors and bishops and apostles and people and how places that have made the church the reason why their marriages have failed. And I believe that that's one of the greatest destructions of the enemy to break the family dynamic so that it will also alter the faith example within the household.
Speaker 1:And it's happened repeatedly. It's happened repeatedly. See, sometimes what happens is, when God calls us, we get a zeal and we become so zealous that we begin to neglect the primary things. But one of the things that I want to say to anybody that's listening on today it's not going to be sustainable. God's order is God first, family second, ministry third and all of the other things under. But note what I'm saying God first, family second. God and ministry are not the same thing. When I'm saying God first, I'm not saying ministry first and then ministry and God are first.
Speaker 1:No, I had a preacher that got offended with me and I was going over to Africa and he was saying well, why don't you stay several weeks Most of the time when I go? And at that time my wife wasn't going with me. So now my wife go when I go out the country. She goes with me, but my wife didn't going with me. So now my wife go when I go out the country. She goes with me, but my wife didn't want me to be gone for two and three weeks. If I went one week she was fine, but she didn't want me to be gone two and three weeks. And he said he said so you don't stay weeks because your wife doesn't want. He said what if God is telling you to say, stay three weeks? I tell him.
Speaker 1:I said let me tell you something God's not telling me to stay three weeks. I said God's pushing me to go. God's not telling me that. I said that's an excuse for me to do what I want to do. I said but the true reason is, when I go on trips with other pastors, they can be in the country for weeks, but I'll stay maybe seven to 10 days because my wife doesn't like me to be gone any more than that. So what I'm saying is we've got to understand that God and ministry are not synonymous. I know we've talked about this, but can we talk about that for a minute? That God and ministry are not synonymous. I'm going to say it one more time God and ministry are not synonymous are not synonymous and there's not.
Speaker 2:And see, and this is the detriment of not shifting your perception when you do get married. Now, I know this ain't, we ain't in the pulpit so we can talk today because, see, I found out that there's a lot of people who don't like their marriages. That's why they stay gone so long, right, that's why they stay on so long, that's why they stay on the road, that's why they try to find any little reason to stay over in another city, because their homes, their houses, are not homes. And so you have these women who are bitter because now they felt like the man has chose ministry over them. Now they feel like you're taking money that we could have went on a vacation with, and you'd rather put that on the light bill.
Speaker 2:But the truth of the matter is we got to understand that God will never require a husband to do what he will call a single man to do, because, again, the husband is the covering of the home, the husband is the leader of the home. And if you go to the book of 2 Samuel, chapter 30, the reason why the Amalekites dealt with Ziklag was because David and his men were missing, and so they burnt up the city. They burnt up the city. Praise God, man. They took the children, they took the wives because the men were absent when they should have been present, and so the devil wreaks havoc anytime that there is an absence of the man within the home. And so, going back to your original point about God is not ministry, we got to understand that ministry is service, but God is, he's the priority of our lives, and we got to understand that God is not going to be in competition with nobody.
Speaker 1:I love that and you brought out a point that is so true and I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't have brought that up. A lot of times, when you see preachers and they're gone not every time, let me say this. Let me say this, not every time, but a lot of times the reason that preachers are gone so long because they don't like coming back to their church, they don't like coming back to their family. And I told one preacher I said, listen, I'm happily married, I'm glad to come back home. I said, I know that's right, I'm glad to come back in church. I don't have anything that I'm running away from. I call that infrastructure that you would put an emphasis on your infrastructure, that you're not using ministry as an escapism to come away from the things that you really don't like. I love that. I love that. Now, that thing that you used in 1 Samuel the 30th chapter.
Speaker 1:I'm going to use that. I'm going to use that and I'm probably going to say one time that I got it from you and then after that, I'm never going to mention your name, ever again. Listen.
Speaker 1:I want to say this Listen, I'm going to do something right now. I want to ask you a question what do you feel a sense of urgency for in the body of Christ? I want to ask you that and then, after, as I ask you that, I'm going to pull myself off the screen and I want you to begin to minister and speak into the lives of our listeners. Today, we've got listeners that are listening from all around the country, in different parts of the world. So I'm asking you first, what do you feel a sense of urgency for in the body of Christ, and then I just want you to release the word of the Lord to these people. Dr Burton is in your hands.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, well, god bless everybody again. Yes, sir, well, god bless everybody again. Well, one of the things that the Lord has been dealing with me in regards to is learning how to be still. I think we have developed a culture where we think busy is better, that we think that us doing more is getting us closer to our expected end. But the Lord has really been dealing with me in this season about taking time to be still, and I'm going to just segue into the short teaching segment, because one of the things that the Lord began to speak to me about is Psalms, chapter 37, verse number seven. Psalms 37 and verse number seven, and the scripture says be still before the Lord and wait patiently for him. Do not fret over those who prosper in their way, over those who carry out evil devices. I'm going to read that one more time. Psalms 37 and 7 says Now, the reason why being still in this season is so important is because the enemy has released an abnormal anxiety within the lives of humanity.
Speaker 2:There's an abnormal sense of urgency. There's an abnormal sense of anxiety and panic within the lives of people because things are uncertain Jobs are uncertain, the government is uncertain. Churches are uncertain, jobs are uncertain. The government is uncertain, churches are uncertain. There's been such an anxiety that has been birthed within the hearts of believers and they are still going as if they are not carrying this level of abnormal anxiety. They are not carrying this level of abnormal anxiety.
Speaker 2:But the Lord began to speak to me and one thing he said to me was prayer is the stabilizer to our emotions, so that we can discern the God-given way to breakthrough. I'm going to say that one more time Prayer is the stabilizer to our emotions, so that we can discern the God-given way to breakthrough. Now, one thing we got to understand is that breakthrough is the children's bread. We are supposed to experience divine outcomes. God has a certain way in which he desires to get his people out of certain places and out of certain situations and out of certain conditions. But if we don't learn how to be still, we're going to miss how God wants to do a thing, and this is why the Bible says that man ought to always pray and not faint, because it is in our time of prayer that God begins to quiet the storms in our life. It's in that time of prayer when God begins to stabilize our emotions so that we can hear You'd be surprised how many people are walking around with an ear who cannot hear. You'd be surprised how many people that's praying but they're not getting any answers. You'd be surprised how many people feel as if they are walking by faith, but they have established doubt within their hearts.
Speaker 2:And the Bible tells us in the book of James, chapter one, that a double-minded man is unstable. And all of this weighs. And so let that man think that he should receive anything from the Lord, receive anything from the Lord. And so I looked up the word still, and that word still means motionless, it means a time of rest, it means a time of being quiet, it means a time of being still, it means a time of having an audience with God. And one thing that the Lord began to speak to me about in this season is, he said there's people who come to prayer ready to talk but not ready to listen. I'm going to say that one more time.
Speaker 2:When people come to prayer, this is what the Holy Ghost said to me. He said people come to prayer with a mindset to talk and to petition me, but they don't come to wait long enough for me to give them instruction for how I desire for them to increase. And so we have a lot of people who are indecisive about decisions. They are vacillating between their destinies and their failures. They're vacillating and they're wavering, and the scripture condemns this vacillating and indecisiveness as a believer, because it speaks to the lack of faith and commitment to their trust in the will of God.
Speaker 2:And so we need to realize that it is in our time of prayer that God begins to give us peace and he begins to reveal clarity about how he desires breakthrough to come in our lives. And so, as I leave you today, I want to share with you that God has a more excellent way in which he desires to fulfill his promises in our lives. The Bible says that God is not slack concerning his promises, like some count slow. God has a process to bring you from the pit to the palace. To bring you from the pit to the palace, god has a process to bring you from not enough to more than enough. God has a way that he desires to manifest his will in our lives, but we must be still long enough to hear the instruction that God has for us. And so, lastly, we got to understand that there's some things that we got to pray through that cannot be public.
Speaker 2:In this season the Lord's been dealing with me about shutting the door. I know Marvin Sapp told the people close the door, but he was totally right in regards to a time of shutting the door and petitioning in prayer, because I believe that some of the warfare that has kicked up in our lives is because we're talking more than we're praying, that some of the attacks that the enemy is using against us to bring great delay in our life is a result of the doors not being closed. But Jesus told us in Matthew, chapter 6, verse 6, but when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to the Father who is in secret, and your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you openly. In other words, jesus was giving them a remedy to the desires and to the anxiety of their lives. Jesus was telling them there's some things you can't tell mama about, you can't tell your father about, you can't tell your prayer partner about. There's something that you're going to have to bear down in prayer and private and watch God give you public breakthrough.
Speaker 2:And so I don't know who you are today. I don't know what you're dealing with, I don't know how long you've been in it, but God has a way to deliver you out of them all. The Bible tells us many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord shall deliver us out of them all. The Bible tells us many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord shall deliver us out of them all. And so I want to encourage you today to really learn how to be still. A car cannot be refueled on the highway. A car has to get off of the highway and go to the gas station and be still long enough for the gas to refuel the vehicle for their journey. I want to tell you today that you're headed somewhere, but God don't want you headed where you're going on empty. He desires to refuel you, he desires to set you on the path of life, but it is up to you to be still long enough to know that God is God.
Speaker 1:Listen, I enjoyed that word on the day. A car cannot be filled on the highway. I'm going to steal that and I'm going to use that. I'm going to mention once again one time I got this from Dr Chris Burton and after that I want to say this the Lord dropped this in my spirit. Listen.
Speaker 1:I've been blessed with you today. Such a powerful word of God man. I love you and your beautiful wife and you're doing a phenomenal job. Awful word to God man. I love you and your beautiful wife and you're doing a phenomenal job and we're just blessed and honored to have you here on the Storm in the Gates podcast. I thank you so much. If I want to know more about Dr Chris Burton, I want to know more about your ministry and things that are happening. How do I find out more about the ministry? Tell me, tell me, tell me.
Speaker 2:You can go to Overseer Chris Burton on Facebook or you can go to Instagram or TikTok at Dr Chris Burton on Instagram and on Facebook. We also have a YouTube channel there at the Recovery Church International on YouTube so you can follow us there. We're all on all streaming platforms. We got videos of teachings and you can get my book online so you can patronize my book.
Speaker 1:Tell them the name of the book again.
Speaker 2:But we're not hard to find. The name of the book is called the Art of Recovery how to Break the Cycles of Dysfunction.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love you, I love your family and I'm blessed to have you with us on today. So much Listen. You've been tuned into the Storming the Gates podcast, where we're teaching believers how to walk in the victory against every attack of the enemy that he may have for their life. Please remember that we're here every Monday at 8 pm. I want you to tell the neighbor and tell a friend that we're storming the gates and we're walking in victory In Jesus' name.