Speaker 1: 0:00

Well, god bless you. This is Bishop Eugene Taylor, and you're back on the Storming the Gates podcast where we're teaching believers how to walk on the victory that God has designed for their life against every attack of the enemy. I'm so blessed on tonight. I'm blessed on tonight to have a dynamic man of God with us and he's going to be sharing on tonight. He is Apostle Dr W Michael Turner, and he's a man of God that I've been blessed to know for many, many years.

Speaker 1: 0:28

Well, it goes beyond years now. Now it's decades, and I thank God for him. We've had the privilege of traveling the world together, preaching the gospel from one continent and one country to the other. He is the presiding prelate of the Kingdom Global Apostolic Network. He is the senior pastor of Kingdom of God Ministries International. He is the husband of Julia Turner, he's the grandfather of plenty of grandchildren, he's the father of plenty of children and he is the leader to many people and pastors that are in many nations, and he is an apostolic voice for this time. God bless you, dr Turner. I'm so blessed to have you all today.

Speaker 2: 1:09

God bless you, dr Taylor, and thank you for having me on this podcast. It certainly is a privilege and an honor as well. So thank you so very much, sir.

Speaker 1: 1:20

Yes, sir, I'm happy to have you. We're going to put on your wisdom tonight. We're going to talk a little bit, and I'm honored to have you. I thank God for our relationship. Now you're not just another guest on today, you're a man of God that I've had a relationship with for many, many years and I believe in that word relationship. I found out something. I had somebody tell me something I'm going to tell you. Who told me this? Apostle Timothy Rutherford. He said this. He said many times, when God wants to give you favor, he gives you favor through relationships. He said. If we disrespect or disregard those relationships, he said we mess up the favor that God wants to give us and he doesn't know. He just called himself talking casually, and that may have been 20 years ago, but that thing has always stuck with me. But I want you to know I thank God for our relationship, I appreciate our relationship and I'm better because of our relationship.

Speaker 2: 2:16

Well, praise, lord, dr Taylor, is mutual, and so I certainly thank God for the bond of love and ministry that the Lord has allowed us to share for more than two decades and, god willing, it will continue on in the future. So it's been a tremendous blessing to have you in my presence, and I learned at an early age and continue to learn that we learn from one another. Yes, sir, we have to appreciate what God is doing in the lives of all of our brothers and sisters, so I give God the praise for all of what he's done these number of years.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Yes, sir. Well, I'll tell you what I want to talk about. What is the Lord doing in the ministry of Apostle Dr W Michael Turner? What is the Lord doing? I want to hear what's going on, not just in your church. I'm talking about everything that your hand is touching with ministry. Tell us what the Lord is doing this season, sir.

Speaker 2: 3:17

Well, dr Taylor, without my permission, the Lord has enlarged my territory, national and international. You well know that we have churches in Trinidad and Tobago, in Flushing, new York, and certainly our headquarters church is right here in Atlanta. But throughout the last 18 months the Lord has allowed us to go into nations, languages and tongues and to be able to train pastors and apostles under Kingdom of God Ministries International, gce. And so now we have branched out to Accra, ghana. We have churches there now, amen, that the Lord intentionally have brought under the fellowship of this ministry. We have them in South Africa. We are getting ready to go into the nation of Zambia and solo with in Southern Africa, and you well know we will be taking a missionary team in November, god willing, to Accra, ghana.

Speaker 2: 4:42

So God is doing so much I forget to say that I believe in July, last of July, I'll be traveling to Brazil.

Speaker 2: 4:51

Amen, to Lake Foundation, so we can take Missionary Team, god willing, in 2026, into Brazil. And so God has given me a focus on the ministry that he has ordained for my life, and I believe that, when it comes down to life, I heard a preacher say most recently that our lifeline is tied to our ministry, regardless of what is going on hardships or tears or whatever we might be encountering that we have to stay with that ministry that God has given us. It is because that's where our grace is, and one of the beauty of God's word, dr Taylor, is that, regardless of where we are in life, grace is greater than sin. Grace is greater than failure, grace is greater than sickness, grace is greater than poverty. I can go on all day that grace is greater than poverty. I go on all day that grace is tied to that ministry and that's where our grace is, and that's what God has taught me and continues to teach me, as he sent me to nation languages and tongues.

Speaker 1: 6:22

You know, one time you and I were talking about grace. What is that thing? You said we were talking about grace and you said if we were swimming in a swimming pool? And you said we were trying to get there and we didn't have enough space to get, well, what is that? Because I need to use that. When I use it, the first time I'm going to say you said it, and then the next time I'm going to say the Lord showed me something.

Speaker 2: 6:41

The Bible teaches us. You know, let every mouth be stopped and become guilty or fall short of the glory of God. And I often use the illustration of three swimmers One swims a fourth of the way and he drowns. The other swims half of the way and he drowns. Then the third one swims just before he can get to the bank of recovery he drowns. And so the inference is that, regardless of how high or how low, grace has already stepped in on our behalf, and so all of us, regardless of what we think about, say how we're feeling, what we think we have accomplished, it's going to be by God's grace. I believe that you were sharing a few years ago.

Speaker 1: 7:33

That is, I'm going to use that and I'm going to say the first time I got this from Dr Turner and the second time I'm going to say the Lord, show me this, praise the Lord. He showed it to me through you.

Speaker 2: 7:45

Well, you know, we got to own it, yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:50

Being an international apostle and you've had the blessing and the liberty of traveling around the world. You and I talk about this, but I want to talk about this for our audience on the day. What is the difference that you notice in the cultures, particularly in the body of Christ? I know there's a plethora of differences, but what are some of the ones that stand out in the front of your mind?

Speaker 2: 8:17

Well, from traveling for over two decades now, the first thing that I see in cultures, especially outside of the United States of America. It shows the self-entitlement that Americans have, yes, the lack of appreciation for the fruitfulness of the ministry, the fruitfulness of the Bible colleges and the seminaries and all the things that they have access to. Yes, whereas those countries who suffer economically sometimes do not have access to it economically. Sometimes, yes, do not have access to it, and so they don't feel self-entitled that when God sends a man or woman there with a gift, they deem it a phenom. Yes, yes, I find that they are more hungry for the word of God, they are more truthful for the word of God, and then they tend to have a greater reverence. Now, we traveled together for years and you well know that when you step into a sanctuary the house is already filled. Yes, but when you come back to America, you got stragglers.

Speaker 2: 9:42

Yes, they come all time, the morning, all time of afternoon, so they have a reverence for God that we don't generally see, and that's not necessarily inclusive of all, but it's so very prevalent here in the US. And you know, we went to Haiti some years ago and you remember how they walked to church for miles. They did not have an automobile and when they got there, they were hungry physically, yes, so it did not deter them from standing on their feet for hours praising God, and if you remember, not just some of the people, but all of every last one, of every last one of them that were not geographical stronghold, yes, yes, church, yes, they pray them for hours from the depths of their heart. And then, when they left, they still were hungry physically.

Speaker 2: 10:51

And you remember, leaving Haiti, how food was bought on their behalf? Yes, yes, they didn't walk back home hungry. And so that's that hunger, yes, hunger for the word of God. They do not allow situations to deter them from praising God. And what it says is that, god, you are the VIP here, not what you can do for me, but because of who you are, and I think that's rich. And I tell you this I think that every pastor should go and minister to different cultures.

Speaker 1: 11:36

Absolutely, absolutely. I agree, you mentioned the Haiti trip. You and I have been to several countries, several countries, but that Haiti trip, that was something special Cause, like we went to Jamaica and when we went to Jamaica we were up in um Christiana and they were walking like four and five miles, walking like four and five miles to church, and I thought I said, wow, so that is impressive. But when we went to Haiti, we found out they were walking up to seven miles to come to church, have service and turn around and go back home. Now, you know the average person over here in the States they barely go walk 70 feet to come to church. They want somebody to pick them up.

Speaker 1: 12:18

The worship was so intense. What do we have? We had close to about a thousand people in that service and the worship was intense. It was passionate. The people were hungry. But with that trip in particular I'm glad you mentioned that trip what stands out to my mind? We were teaching a teaching session that Saturday to this type of information and he broke down and started crying. He said we need this. He said we don't have access to this, we don't know this and I'm going to be honest with you, out of all the things that we experienced that whole week, that was the thing that made it worthwhile.

Speaker 2: 12:58

Praise God. I do remember Dr Taylor, and you know that continues to be a desperate need for nations, languages and tongues. Still today there are many that do not have access. Sometimes we take it for granted because we have it. We think that everybody has has the access, and that is far from the truth. That simply means there is a need for apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastors and teachers to understand what is their calling. I feel that we are comfortable in our own nest and in our rocking chair when I say rocking chair, we don't want to go any further than our local ministry, when, in essence, there is a dire need for the fivefold ministry not only to function locally but to function in the nations. And I'm not quite sure that that is happening to the degree that the father is pleased.

Speaker 1: 14:21

Well, jesus said it. He said Matthew 28, 19,. Go ye, therefore, into all nations, making disciples. And, as he said, go into all nations and make disciples of nations, not just believers. But he said that you would disciple nations, and the only way that we're going to disciple nations we've got to be salt and light, meaning this right here. We've got to get into more than just the church. We've got to get into some of the other aspects, one of the things that I like that you do, dr Turner, and as we did on this last trip, you're not when you go to some of the overseas nations, you're not just going to churches, you're going to schools, you're really penetrating that community. I'd like to talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 2: 15:02

Yeah, you know, I, a couple of years ago, and maybe a little longer than that, I had to take a self-evaluation and of course, I've had the privilege of going to higher institutions of learning, teaching at higher institutions of learning and, pardon my language, I said to myself if all you do is hang around dignitaries with three-piece suits, matching shoes, no fine cards, I said, what about children who are know? Sometimes, Dr Taylor, all we do is congregate among ourselves and when we do that, our circle becomes small.

Speaker 1: 15:53

Yes.

Speaker 2: 15:54

And when our circle becomes small, we cease to grow. Yes, it becomes cultish. Yes, it's the same soup, warm over the same people and seemingly, whether we are conscious of it or unconscious, nobody comes in our circle. And so that circle has to be open. It's kind of like saying come out of the box. So I said are you in a box? Is all the thing important to you to say that you had the opportunity to do presentations in the midst of dignitaries? And then, when it's done, you go back home beating your chest as if you have done God's will. God made me to know it's more to be done, and let me just say this over the past 15 years or more, Dr Taylor, you can attest to this intentionally how we go to indigenous countries to preach the gospel, but there would be no remuneration.

Speaker 2: 17:01

We've paid our airfare. Yes, we paid for our accommodations. Yes, we paid for our food. Yes, we prayed for local travel, intentionally so that the gospel could reach nations where there were economical problems.

Speaker 1: 17:20

And you know it had to be a shifting of mindset for me because I've been preaching for 36 years. You've been preaching for 36 years. How many of you have been preaching for Dr Turner About?

Speaker 2: 17:30

48.

Speaker 1: 17:31

So I was used to, when I was coming somewhere to preach, somebody would fly me in and I would stay all comfortable and then they'd give me a nice honorarium and all that. But the Holy Ghost convicted us listen to go into some of these indigenous countries and that it would be a missionary trip. So my focus changed, my shift changed and I'm gonna be honest with you, it's been so, so rewarding and sometimes when we've done some of these trips, it hasn't been in the most ideal situation. You know, we like to have a nice continental breakfast and like to have all these things, but sometimes that has not been our testimony, but every time the Lord has been faithful and kind to us. Let's just take a moment and talk about some of these conditions that we go into, and can I tell you what gives us victory over all these conditions? When we have the heart of a missionary, the heart of an apostle, the heart of a person that's been sent is in your hands.

Speaker 2: 18:37

Well, you know we can go back. You know, you just sat down on a regular basis on Fridays. You remember those days, and very difficult days, but I tell her, those days were training ground.

Speaker 1: 18:55

Yes, sir.

Speaker 2: 18:57

And I have discovered that the best training at Wingard sent you down. Yes, observation yes, yes, focus to find out exactly who you are in the Lord.

Speaker 1: 19:12

Yes.

Speaker 2: 19:13

Well, you had to walk by faith and not by sight. Yes, sir, and you know, there were a time when we sat down as a group, we shed tears, we vented one with another because sometimes, as the leader, nobody wants to see you vent. Yes, sir, nobody wants to see you your tears. Yes, if they see your tears, they want the tear to be for them. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 19:40

And so sometimes you need peers and you can sit down and share with, and I found that to be a strength. You know some things. We did not understand why, but we know all things work together. Yes, sir, god was getting us ready for now. Yes, when you go back and look at it, those were some precious times. Yes, times of being real.

Speaker 2: 20:06

Yes, you know, there are times when we can say I don't have anything, I can't even pay for my breakfast, right? Yeah, because if you don't be transparent, people will get the impression because you are traveling, you're making money, and that's far from the truth. Far from the truth. But, as you said earlier, god has always provided, always, always, always provided. And so I think that's significant that, as we continue in ministry, that we continue in a manner that people can understand that, when it comes to the kingdom and sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ, it does not mean that a laborer is not worthy of his higher. Labor is primary focus. Dr Taylor, I've gone thousands of miles and received absolutely nothing in nations, languages and tongues, and I rejoiced at the opportunity of preaching Jesus Christ to the nations and see, that's the thing.

Speaker 1: 21:37

Even as we take people to nations, we've got to explain to them their trips that are missionary trips and their trips that are ministry trips. Missionary trips you're going over there doing missions, but no matter where I've traveled, no matter where I've gone to, even if I didn't get this or that, god made it up somewhere else. When I say made it up, I'm talking about made it up tremendously. God always proves himself faithful, because you can never give to God more than he can give to you. I want to answer a question. I'll turn it now. What is your observation? I've been looking at a lot of funny teaching. I'll just say it like that.

Speaker 1: 22:20

A lot of funny teaching has been going on here lately and I've been referencing 1 Timothy, 4 and 1 that Paul talks about in the last days he said the spirit speaks, especially in the last days he said men wouldn't endure sound doctrine, talks about doctrine of devils, giving heed to seducing, seductive spirits, and I've been hearing a lot of heresy. Heresy, if you will, going on, and I'm seeing it, it's bolder than it's ever been in the past. Now I've been in church for a while. I've never seen it as bold as I've seen it now, yourself.

Speaker 2: 23:01

Yes, you are absolutely correct in your assessment that we're living in a time where the spirit of the Antichrist is progressively advancing itself and actions in the world. Now I will say this because I believe the word of God, that Jesus said this upon this rock I build my church.

Speaker 1: 23:37

Yes.

Speaker 2: 23:38

And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Yes, I am not weary, because the end result has already been determined. Yes, but that does not stop the adversary, the Antichrist, from continuing its actions through the personalities of men who do not have a true revelation of who Jesus is. And I want to say this, and I make no apologies, that if a man or woman who is preaching the gospel and do not have a revelation of who Jesus is, their calling is questionable Because, dr Taylor, you cannot carry mail and not know the sender. I like that. I cannot preach a message and not know the author.

Speaker 1: 24:43

Yes.

Speaker 2: 24:44

And so there are no substitutes when it comes to knowing who Jesus is. There are a lot of sayings out there heretical preaching, yes, heresy.

Speaker 2: 25:00

There are a lot of men and women who preach from the status of being a heretic, and a heretic is one who deviates from Bible doctrine yes, that's who it is Opinionators that speaks and contradicts established Bible doctrine. They attempt to introduce new revelation yes, and we know there is no new revelation, because if it's new it's not true, and if it's true it's not new. There are 66 books of the Bible that we hold fast to, and the word of God is textelestai. It means that it's finished, it's fixed, and so our assignments may change, but the word of God never changes. And so a heretic is stubborn in their beliefs of error. They are settled, they are cemented in their minds and in their hearts when it comes to the error, and they bring about divisiveness and sanctions and they mix truth with error.

Speaker 1: 26:28

Yes.

Speaker 2: 26:29

They mix truth with error. And anytime you take a cake, dr, and that cake is good until you mix Kool-Aid and cyanide in it, then the whole cake is no good, right, right, and that's what a heretic does. And so they are unrepentant. In fact, I believe it's 1 John, if I'm correct it's Titus, that is, 3 and 10, the writer teaches about a heretic and he tells us that to reject a heretic, in fact it goes on to say after the first and second ammunition, to avoid them, to reject them because they are cemented, settled in their unbelief and in their false doctrine. In 2 John, 2 and 10, the writer says mark them. Yes, oh, glory to God, mark them. Not only does it say, mark them, but avoid them, do not receive them, do not bless them unless you become a part of their sin. And so we have heretics. But at the very bottom line of heresy is the spirit of the Antichrist. Yes, it is, yes, it is.

Speaker 2: 28:01

Now let me be specific. I've heard all kinds of things out there. I've heard them say that Jesus and the Word is not one and the same. I don't know how they come up with such revelation, but any doctrine that denies Jesus' deity, his humanity and his virgin birth is heresy, absolutely. His perfection is heresy, it's heresy. And, my friend, if we are honest, we are hearing a lot of heresy, a whole lot of it, and it's not coming from church front stores, amen. It's coming from those who are preaching to the thousands, and it's heretical preaching. And so we are progressing. It will get worse before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Yes, Amen.

Speaker 1: 29:07

They're bolder than they've ever been. And Paul says the same thing in the book of Romans. He says mock those. He said they will be mocked, they will be identified. And we've got to deal with that, because that's a scripture that I like.

Speaker 1: 29:20

In the book of Acts, the 13th chapter, it says David served his generation well and laid down with his fathers. One of the things that we have to be conscious of that we have to pass the baton. But when we talk about passing the baton, what are we passing? We've got to be conscious of the emerging leaders and these preachers that are coming up behind us, that they have a proper example and they would have a good foundation in the word, not just in the word in every area their family life, in every aspect of ministry. I want you to talk a little bit. I'm going to combine the thought. I want you to speak a little bit to emerging leaders and then I want to talk about how do we pass the baton effectively. I'm going to pull myself out of here for a moment and I'm going to let you just talk to the people. Apostle Turner.

Speaker 2: 30:17

Thank you so much, dr Taylor. I want to say the importance of emerging leaders to understand the difference between being anointed as opposed to being appointed. I want that to soak in and I want to use the example of Hannah's son, samuel. Samuel From birth. He was weaned and taken to the temple to live with Eli. The priest Record is for 11 years he was in the temple with Eli.

Speaker 2: 31:25

Now the question that arises is what was Samuel doing for 11 years? We know that he was not preaching because that was Eli's job. So what is young Samuel doing other than being tutored by Eli the priest? Perhaps was he cleaning the church, perhaps were he making sure the toilets and the floors and the congregations, or the tent was ready for the entrance of the Israelites. This is for sure. We know he wasn't preaching because Eli was the priest.

Speaker 2: 32:04

And here's the thing Samuel was anointed from his birth. There is no question about him being anointed, and there is no question about you, sir, and young lady being anointed from his birth. There is no question about him being anointed and there is no question about you, sir, and young lady being anointed. But Samuel, when the Lord begins to call him, he goes to Eli because he thinks Eli is calling him, why? Eli sends him back and the Lord calls him again by name Samuel, and he goes again to Eli. What's the point that I'm making here? Samuel was anointed but he did not know the voice of God. How can you go anywhere and preach in any nation, if he calls you again, referring to God? Answer him and say here am I, thy servant, here is thee.

Speaker 2: 33:31

Now God comes back for Samuel. This time he calls him two times. We say that the number two means that you have been established, samuel, samuel. And Samuel answers him my God, my God. God has now called him. God has now called him. He was born anointed, but now he has been appointed. You cannot go into the kingdom and operate like Burger King. Have it your own way.

Speaker 2: 34:26

We work by assignment and the Holy Ghost is the one that gives us the assignment in the body of Christ. Unless God has sent you, you are guilty of having gone without assignment. And the Bible said at the very end of that chapter chapters 1, 2, and 3 of 1, samuel. He made Samuel known and not one word from Samuel's mouth fell to the ground. What am I saying? I'm saying that in this season and has been in seasons past. We work by assignment. To every young preacher you must be appointed by God, because if you go ahead of God, you are subject to shipwreck, someone's faith to make a mess, to have spiritual accidents. God does not send novices anywhere. Here's what I'm saying when I say assignment.

Speaker 2: 35:49

Abraham was called to Mount Moriah, moses was called to go down in Egypt to liberate the Israelite family from 430 years of Egyptian funding. Joshua had the call to take the children over into Jericho. Gideon the Midianites, saxon the Philistines, ezekiel, the Valley of Dry Bones, elijah Mount Carmel, jonah to Nineveh, john the Baptist to the wilderness. John the Baptist to the wilderness, peter to the Jews, paul to the Romans and Jesus to the cross at Calvary. We work by assignment and when we work in our assignment, there's a grace. My God, my God. There's a grace that comes with your assignment, and that grace that comes with your assignment is the power of purpose. That power is essential because as long as we work by assignment and purpose, there is no power that the enemy can conjure that will overthrow the power of purpose. God bless you. Thank you so much, dr Taylor.

Speaker 1: 37:43

So if we work by assignment, what if I don't know what my assignment is, Dr Turner?

Speaker 2: 37:50

Dr Taylor. Very good question. Dr Taylor is like young Samuel. Samuel didn't go anywhere until he got the call.

Speaker 1: 38:04

Okay.

Speaker 2: 38:05

Samuel didn't go anywhere until God revealed himself to him. Okay, and I read very strongly when a man or woman have assignment, god will give that man or woman experience with God. Yes, and if you cannot hear the Holy Ghost, then wait until you can hear him.

Speaker 1: 38:35

OK.

Speaker 2: 38:36

See, the problem is we get excited. Yeah, we talked about emerging leaders. Yes, there's a desperate need for emerging leaders. There's a desperate need for legacy to pass the baton, but our job is to prepare them. Yes, but our job is to prepare them. Yes, god is the one that passes the baton. Yes, if I pass the baton, I may pass it to the wrong person. Yes, so we get them ready, we prepare them, we teach them, we train them, as in the case of Eli. And then, when God got ready for young Samuel, god came himself and revealed himself to Samuel, and Samuel, at that point, began to take up the mantle of the prophet. And you know the heroic things he did in the name of the god jehovah. Yes, sir, because he was not only anointed, he was appointed. Yes, sir, and when you stop and think about it, I tell you, you can't just get up because you feel like and go work for burger king because you feel like you qualify.

Speaker 1: 39:58

Absolutely not.

Speaker 2: 39:59

You know what I mean. You need to be appointed, you need to fill out your application.

Speaker 1: 40:06

Yes.

Speaker 2: 40:07

You need to know where you're going to work. Yes, you need to be appointed. If it's true in the natural, then it is true in the spiritual, and I think that in this season of the church, dr Taylor, I am concerned about the doctrine that I hear from many people that are very inconsistent with the word of God. The word of God, I'm concerned about the boldness to be offensive to the gospel, the boldness to speak things that are contrary to truth. I've seen people, for advertisement purposes, get on TV and try to detriment the Bible by pouring water all over it, just for advertisement purposes. Where is the sacredness?

Speaker 2: 41:07

Yes. Where is the fear of God? Yes, sir, and our young leaders need to understand that there's a period of waiting to get the call of God for the assignment that God has for our lives and regardless of what we are enduring in this suffering and falling world, we hold fast to Jesus' word. I build my church and the very gates of hell shall not come against it.

Speaker 1: 41:50

You know we're coming to the end of this interview, but before we end, I want to say this that's one of the challenges that we deal with is that there's not a desire to wait. We live in a microwave society. The challenge with Israel is when they came out of Egypt, they thought that the promised land was geographically connected to the bondage bondage. They had not considered the wilderness. They thought, when I came out, I'll come out of here and step into there. Well, that's what happens with a lot of us. When God's calling us into purpose, we think because we've come out of here, we're going to step into there. But if you begin to look at the wilderness, it is the wilderness and that wilderness experience where you begin to see the many diverse names of God, because he begins to reveal his character in diverse manners.

Speaker 1: 42:43

And when we have emerging leaders, you got to realize that we can't just there's some things that you're not going to just preach from seminary. There's some things that you're going to have to preach by experience and as we're molding leaders and getting leaders ready for this next generation. That's one of the key things that I think that we need to say to them is that God doesn't just speak to you in his word. He also speaks to you in his experience, because when you begin to share, you're sharing with a deeper passion, a stronger conviction, because you're not saying that I heard he was a healer. You're saying I know he's a healer. You're not saying I heard it was a deliverer, but the things I'm telling you about, I know that he can do it. Praise God. That is absolutely correct sir, absolutely correct.

Speaker 2: 43:33

You know Noctela I you know we talked about from experience and most recently while in Johannesburg, soweto, south Africa, just a couple of months ago, and I believe I mentioned how, going on that particular assignment, how the territorial demon attacked me in Soweto, I was at my last breath. If anybody want to know what it feels like to be on your last breath, that's where I was and God blocked it. God blocked it because I was on assignment, got blocked it because I was on assignment, got blocked it because I was on fulfilling purpose. And on the next day we went into a different town in South Africa and the young lady said, sir, there are three men, 12 men, escorting you into this service this Sunday morning and said, when you stood up to preach those three 12 men, they were standing beside you while you were preaching the gospel. That's the guarantee of purpose and assignment that God will call this angels to engulf.

Speaker 2: 45:05

Yes, yes, you know, we know the enemy forms weapons, regardless of what the enemy sends against you. Yes, sir, I was leaving a breakfast a few years ago with you and Dr Dunson, heading back up I-20 and went blind yeah, literally went blind on the highway, going 60 to 65 miles an hour and God restored my sight simultaneously. There are many other examples and experiences that I had the time that I can share, but the point I'm making is when you operate in assignment, the enemy cannot take you down until it's fulfilled.

Speaker 1: 46:10

Yes, I love that. I love that and all these things work together for the good. Those are called according to his purpose. When God does things, he does things with purpose in mind and I like the way you say that when you were talking about operating inside of your grace. Now, I've traveled you and I have traveled enough to watch. I've watched you travel into other nations and I want to share something with you. You, you yourself, you turned into another preacher. When you go into other nations. It amazed me, I think, the first time I realized that. I think we may have been in Jamaica and I've heard you preach for years, but I said no, I've never said it was something that was completely different. Now, do you agree with me about that?

Speaker 2: 46:59

I do sir.

Speaker 1: 47:01

I don't want to just be saying that. I want to know do you agree with what I'm saying?

Speaker 2: 47:05

I do agree and I think there's a reasoning behind it. Dr Miller, you well know that when you travel to other nations, there's a demand on your anointing yes, yes, that's their pulling. Yes, you, you well know that you have the responsibility to culturize the culture.

Speaker 2: 47:29

yes, the culture that you come from yes and, whether you acknowledge or not, you feel the weight of it. Yes, okay, and so not only, but you're stepping into assignment, yes, and that key point again, that's where your grace is Right, that's where your grace is. Now. Let me just say that the prophet is without honor. You know the rest, right, right, right, yes, sir, in his own country and in his own home. And so go ahead.

Speaker 1: 48:04

No, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 48:05

You go ahead, people receive you. Listen, people get melancholy, especially preachers, right, they get melancholy because they say my church is not a mega church, my church is not running over with souls, and all of those reasons. But the truth of the matter is are you operating in your grace? Yes, yes. Do you see the big picture? God showed me that. Listen, you're running around here talking about your church, your local church. Do you see the big picture? Yes, everywhere, every nation, language and tongue that I allow you to preach, that's your church. The big picture, yes, and so he taught me that the church you're looking for. I'm putting it right before your faith, but I want to hand it back to you, dr Taylor.

Speaker 1: 49:00

Well, I'm going to let you just say something about this, because I know this is a passion on your heart. You've got a project going on every month All my Children project. Yes, sir, and you're doing that because I want you to get a chance to talk to some of the people that are listening today. They may want to support this project and they may want to know more about what you're doing. Tell them about that and tell them what they can do to support this.

Speaker 2: 49:27

Thank you so much, sir. Our project is called All my Children's Project. It's over two years old now and we started that project in Accra, ghana. We have adopted over 60 children that we support financially every month, two years of providing food and clothes and some of the items that they would not have if we did not meet that financial support. And we also, in the month of June of this year, god willing we have expanded All my Children's to Soweto, south Africa, and so we have always been about children, youth and young adults, and we continue to do that and so, should you desire, you can help us support All my Children's program by sending any donation. No donation is too small. You can send a cash app to dollar sign iron, dollar sign I-R-O-N-C-O-N. That's dollar sign I-R-O-N-C-O-N, and make a note all my children's programs in Accra, ghana, and Soweto, south Africa. So thank you so much for your donations and contributions in advance, and we pray and know that the Lord will bless you.

Speaker 1: 51:13

And Dr Taylor, thank you for that space. Yes sir, yes, sir, but it's been a good interview. I want to thank you for that space. Yes sir, yes sir, but it's been a good interview. I want to thank you for joining me on today. We're better because you came and we thank you so much for being a part of the Storm in the Gates podcast. Listen to everyone that's listening. We're here every Monday at 8 pm. We're streaming live. You can view this on your YouTube, your YouTube podcast, your Spotify, where it's reaching over 42 million people, and I want you to share this message, because somebody needs to hear this message that we're storming the gates. What does that mean? That we're teaching believers how to walk in the victory that God has for their life against every strategy of the enemy. May the Lord bless you. May the Lord keep you. It's always my prayer. Let's stick together and watch God get the glory out of this.