Speaker 1: 0:00

Well, god bless you. This is Bishop Eugene Taylor and you tuned in to Storming the Gates podcast. Please remember that we're here every Monday releasing a new podcast and we're teaching God's people how to storm the gates. Please remember that you can view us on our YouTube podcast. You can view us on Spotify and all of the information that you're looking for regarding podcasts you can go to wwwbishopeugentaylororg. And I'm so blessed on tonight. I've got a dynamic guest is going to be sharing on tonight by the name of Bishop James Farmer. He is the pastor of the Purpose Church in Durham, north Carolina. He's the overseer of the Purpose Church in Orlando, florida. He's the first assistant of the Kingdom Fellowship Assemblies International. He's a father, he's a grandfather, he's a husband and he's going to share with us all tonight. He's a dynamic preacher and we are so blessed to have him on tonight. God bless you.

Speaker 2: 1:11

Bishop James Farmer. God bless you, bishop. God bless you. It's such an honor and a privilege to be here with you in Storming the Gates podcast and I'm telling you you're doing such an awesome job, sir. Thank you for having us.

Speaker 1: 1:20

I'm honored to have you. I am so blessed and favored to have you. You know, I know a whole lot about you because I've been knowing you for a long time, but the people that are with us tonight, they don't know as much. So I'm going to give you a moment and just tell them not just who Bishop James Farmer is, but tell them who James Farmer is, just tell them who you are, tell them a little bit about yourself and your ministry and the things that the Lord has placed on your heart on this evening.

Speaker 2: 1:48

Well, once again, bishop, god bless you. Thank you so much, man, for for this opportunity in this space and this platform. Well, as you say, I'm James Farmer Jr. I am a I'm a father of four beautiful children. I am a grandfather of five beautiful grandchildren. I'm a husband of a beautiful woman by the name of Lori Farmer. I am a business owner, I'm a businessman, I'm a preacher, I'm a pastor, I'm a duly consecrated bishop in the Lord's church, and I just believe that I'm in a place right now in my life that we're just really attacking what God is calling us and assign us to do, and that is to make sure that people discover their purpose and then walk in it.

Speaker 1: 2:44

Now that's an interesting name that you have for your church the Purpose Church. That name seems as though it's very intentional. It seems like there's a whole lot of content just in the name itself. When I named the church the Lord's House, it was a lot of intention in that. But when I hear the Purpose Church I said now that's something intentional in that name.

Speaker 2: 3:08

Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir. The purpose church. The purpose church is a place where purpose is, because there's so many people that's who's in the body of Christ who really honestly do not know their purpose, and you know. So I really believe it's our job to make sure that people discover their purpose and so that they can walk successfully in it. One thing I understand what Paul says. He says let every man abide in his calling, in which he was called. And when you discover your purpose that's where your strength and your anointing really lies is when you're operating in the purpose and in the vein that God has ordained for your life.

Speaker 1: 3:52

Now, I agree with you so much because when you're in your purpose, what happens is you begin to find your grace. Your grace is where your purpose is. You know Solomon writes. He says in the book of Proverbs. He says many are the plans of a man, but it's the purpose of the Lord that prevails. So a man can have all these different plans, that I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that, I'm going to do all these things, but we find out that it's God's purpose that prevails. And many times, when I talk about Romans 8, 28,. Romans 8, 28 says and we know, all things work together. Listen for them that love God and are called and toward into his purpose. Sometimes we take that and use that as a scripture to everybody. But it said no, it talks in the context of purpose, meaning this right here Things work together, but it works together for people that have a comprehension of God's purpose in their life. So what's your passion, bishop? What's your passion when it comes to ministry?

Speaker 2: 4:50

Well, when it comes to ministry, the passion, because I really feel, though, as whatever you find passion, you'll find a drive, and one of the driving forces in our ministry is to recalibrate and revive and strengthen and lead leaders. I believe that we're in an hour and we're in a day that leaders need to be strengthened and they need to be taught and trained and equipped to be able. I'm going back, my mind is going back to the scripture when it says how can they hear without the preacher? But then how is qualified preach? The word stent in Greek simply means to be equipped to do so, and we find that there's a lot of leaders who's leading, but they don't have the right, true equipment to be able to be effective, not just rendering service, but to be effective in your endeavors as a leader. That's something totally different. So that's our passion here at the church, the equip leaders.

Speaker 1: 6:08

I'm going to tell you something and I like what you said. You said when that word sent, it also talks about being equipped. You know, sometimes we use the word apostle and we'll say that the word apostle means to be sent, but that definition is so vague. But if you really look at that word from the etymological position, it means to be sent, but it also means to be sent for something specifically. I am of the opinion that you must have a comprehension of what you are sent to do. Each and every one of us has an assignment. The more we walk with God, the more we go in God. Our assignment becomes clearer and clearer. What are some of the things that you do, some of the strategies that you use to help these leaders discover their purpose?

Speaker 2: 6:54

Well, well, one of the things, one things we we try to strategize and place and we have in place for leaders, is to first of all allow them to understand the number one thing about when it comes down to ministry and about leadership, and that is that God wants us, as leaders, to be fruitful, and you cannot be fruitful unless he made you seedful. So the first thing is that you got to understand that God placed something in you. He wants you to have cultivated. He wants that thing he put in you. It has to be nurtured. It has to be not only cultivated but also irrigated, Because any plant that you put in the soil, if you don't put water to it, then nine times out of 10, it's not going to grow effectively. So one of the things that we put in place when it comes down to leadership is for leadership to truly understand what it means to be a leader, to become one.

Speaker 2: 8:05

I heard someone say some time ago that one way of you knowing that you're a leader is that when you turn around, people follow you. If you turn around and no one's following you, you're just taking a walk. Yes, sir, yes sir. So so you know, and if people are following you, people are following you. You've got to make sure that you equip to be able to take them to another facet of life in their purpose or whatever God have called them to do. So, so you know, there's a lot of things that we do do as far as training, and we have a lot of classes that we put them through and just how to not only to discover, but also how to function as leaders. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1: 8:56

Let me ask you a question what are some of the key areas that you find in the 21st century that the enemy fights leaders and ministries?

Speaker 2: 9:14

That's a good question, bishop. Enemy in the 21st century church is fighting leaders through what I suggest as to be PMS. Okay, and PMS is. When I say PMS, most of the time when you talk about PMS is something, it's a medical term that most women go through PMS, but the truth of the matter is in the spiritual content.

Speaker 2: 9:45

When I say PMS, I'm talking about enemy attacks the 21st century when it comes down to P as in power, m as in money and S as in sexual behavior. And I really believe that, as leaders, if we learn how to discipline and knowing what it means to be truly accountable when it comes down to the power that you have been given, that you have been given, understand the integrity of how to handle and how to stewardship money and control your sexual appetite, then you could overcome a lot of areas that the enemy will try to attack you with. Far as launching attacks and most of the time it's through PMS Most of the time even leaders will fall. Most of the time it's dealing with power. If it's not power, some type of money, descriptions or whatever and then sexual behaviors that is not conducive to what the Word of God says and the standard that we're supposed to have as leaders and ministers of the gospel.

Speaker 1: 11:07

That is so true, and we've seen so many people that had fantastic ministries and I mean, and the call of God was there, and only because there was a lack of discipline in one of those areas and he wound up losing everything that God has for them. I believe that God is raising up a remnant. I'm going to tell you something now. In our day that we're in now, you don't see a whole lot of people getting on crack cocaine. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the vice that we see now. There are people on crack cocaine, but the young people that are coming up now they've looked at the mistakes of their fathers, their grandfathers and their uncles and even though they may have a vice, but it's not that vice right there.

Speaker 1: 11:53

My desire is that the generation that is emerging now has seen enough failures in those three areas that I say let me walk circumspectly in those areas and don't let me do everything right. And that's the one area that I fall. As I'm talking to you, I think about Solomon. Solomon, the wisest man that there ever was, but he had 700 wives, 300 concubine. So even though he was the wisest man in kingdom affairs, he was a fool when it came to that area of his flesh and the Bible said even with all his wisdom in his older years, those women turned his heart away from God. So so that that I agree with you. I agree with you 100%, yes sir.

Speaker 2: 12:42

Yes, sir, and and and Bishop as well as you. You and I both know that there are there. And, yes, sir, and Bishop as well as you. You and I both know that there are.

Speaker 2: 12:49

There are times when that I believe that the struggle with this generation is that not not hearing and seeing us becoming very transparent. I believe that you know, we're supposed to be able to open up our robe and become transparent and allow our spiritual sons and daughters notice I say spiritual sons and daughters, daughters and sons to not only see our success, but there is no successful failure, and I think a lot of times. I think a lot of times, the reason why they're so easy to get misled is because of the lack of transparency that's coming from our generation. I truly believe that once we become real when I say real, allow them to understand that, yes, in fact, you are going to be saved, but at the same time, there are going to be temptations. There's, you know. Be transparent, allowing people to understand that.

Speaker 2: 13:56

Yes, you know, every man is going to have an appetite, everyone is going to have an appetite. The problem is never with the appetite. The problem comes in is how you have an appetite. The problem is never with the appetite. The problem comes in is how you satisfy that appetite that you have.

Speaker 2: 14:14

So I really believe that a lot of times, with transparency, transparency is the key. Even when we look at Elijah, we look at Elijah. Elijah the Bible lets us know that he followed Elijah for seven years. Seven years without a promise, seven years without any type of initiative that he was going to make him an apostle or bishop or none of that. The Bible says Elijah served him, but even though he served him and I think this generation really need to hear this Even though Elijah served him, but even though he served him and I think this generation really need to hear this even though Elijah served him Bishop, but he always referred to him as master.

Speaker 2: 14:56

It wasn't until Elijah was about ready to be taken up by a whirlwind, but he saw that there was a separation between himself and Elijah the first time and the whole time that they've been walking together, when he realized that who I've been called master they're translating Roboni, master, teacher is really my father. He said my father, my father, the chariots, okay, and I really believe that the one of the reasons why, um, things are not really truly passed on and and far as mantles and and and because it's successors, is because this generation still have a true problem of identifying who their father is. Ok, well, he said my father, my father. Then, all of a sudden watch this the mantle fail, because he's able to realize now who really was my master, my teacher is really my spiritual father. So you know, there, there's there, there, there's a lot that has to, has to be really put into the, this generation of young leaders, that that you know your father, your father is the one who gives your identity.

Speaker 2: 16:22

And when I say father, I'm not just, I'm not talking about gender, you gender. He could be spiritual mother too, but what I'm saying is that the acknowledgement of him being his father. Because there's something about mantles Mantles are not supposed to. I heard you talked about this many, many years ago. Mantles are not needed in heaven. No, no, mantles are not supposed to. And I heard you talked about this many, many years ago.

Speaker 1: 16:47

Mantles are not needed in heaven. No, no, mantles are anointings.

Speaker 2: 16:49

Yes, so anointings and mantles are not no. Mantles are supposed to be fallen and when they fall, it's a fall upon sons and daughters who have been or is in position and Elijah was in position to be able to catch that. What his?

Speaker 1: 17:10

father had Absolutely, absolutely. We don't need mantles in heaven, we don't need anointings in heaven. So there are mantles that have not been possessed still here in the earth. There are mantles that have accomplished great things and they're still here in the earth and what needs to happen is we need some people to raise up and go and get those mantles, because those mantles are earmarked for assignment. So I agree with you 100%. You know, when you talk about some of these areas that you've seen men and women fall in. You know I remember as you were talking.

Speaker 1: 17:43

I remember some years ago I was preaching and I was talking about myself. I've been in ministry for a long time and I talked about a situation where I fell. I had an indiscretion in ministry prior to me getting married. When I started preaching I was a young man, I was not married, I was saved and I loved the Lord and I never will forget. I talked about it openly. Oh my gracious, that was close to 20 years ago. I'll be honest with you, I was so nervous when I talked about it openly but I felt impressed of the Holy Ghost and I was preaching at a large conference. After I got through preaching that message, the altar was filled I mean, I'm talking about completely filled because they were surprised that I was that transparent about something that happened in my life when I entered into ministry. As you've stated, we need transparency, we need people to be honest and say this right here I've had some challenges as I've walked with the Lord, but nevertheless, the Lord has been faithful.

Speaker 2: 18:49

Amen, Amen, he. You know one thing that Peter and John said at the Gate of Beautiful, dealing with the man that was laying there, he said, he said, he said. But before he mentioned about the Holy Ghost, he said Look on us, Look on us, Look on us.

Speaker 1: 19:09

Right here, look on us he said Look on us.

Speaker 2: 19:12

Why Look on? He said look on us? Why? Because, the truth be told, we are supposed to be Living epistles being seen. Your life Should be a letter, and when I say your life, we're not just talking about your present, I'm not talking about you all Polished up, and now you got five scriptures Down. All together, you can exegete the scripture no, no, no, no, no. Your life, your life, your life is a letter, which means your past as well. And sometimes, sometimes, people, people, especially those who are coming up behind us, it's coming up they are able to see that, yeah, this is what, this is what, through transparency. Now I can see how to get through this, that I'm not alone. And you know, I understand, I understand that there is a thing that's called survival in the struggle, see, and it's only because of the transparency. But if we present ourselves as to be flawless and always have been flawless and have arrived, then they have nothing to go by.

Speaker 1: 20:26

Yeah, they don't have anything to relate to. One of the things that I also like to talk to younger ministers as they're coming about. I like to talk to them, especially married men and fathers. I like to talk to them about their first ministry, and their first ministry is their family. You know, if I win the whole world and I lose my family, I'm a failure, and that's one of the things that ministers need to understand when we're trying to reach this one and reach that one. But we must make sure I never will forget.

Speaker 1: 21:00

I've been pastoring for 30 years and I remember one time my wife I was, I was getting on her about coming to church. She was running late and all my grace, we probably went out 20s then and she had just irritated me. She was moving slow and moving slow and I just I got to fussing and moving slow and moving slow and I just I got to fussing and clowning and all that kind of stuff. And when I got to church I looked at her and she was sitting there looking at me and I was getting ready to get in that pulpit to preach and I told them sing another song. I need to do something real quick. And I told them to come in the office and I said listen, I want to apologize.

Speaker 1: 21:34

I think I was there and I had to realize I'm a husband but I'm a pastor, so I want to talk about, for emerging ministers, the importance of their family and ministry. It's in your hands, bishop.

Speaker 2: 21:56

It's in your hands, bishop. Well, bishop, I'm going to be honest with you, you know. That's the reason why that is, and please, please, hear what I'm about ready to say. Ministers of the gospel, you need to not only have a mentor in your life, but that mentor. You also need that mentor to be a model, because you could be a mentor, but not a good model, mm-hmm. So the importance of a model is for demonstration.

Speaker 2: 22:37

Okay, you need somebody to show you that family is important as a minister, because it's first God. It's God first, then the family. The church is third. You didn't marry the church, you married her, diane Taylor, and so that's your first assignment. We not only take care of our families, but also protect our families, strengthen our families and make sure that our families are healthy Healthy. What I mean by healthy, I'm not just talking about physically, but I'm talking about even spiritually, mentally. That's our first assignment as ministers. That's our first assignment as ministers.

Speaker 2: 23:35

You and I both have seen it down through the years that you know, sometimes ministry has gotten in the way with the family. Yes, god knows, has gotten in the way with the family. And because of that, because of ministry and the things that you say that God wants you to do can actually will tear up your family. If you don't understand that the family your family comes first. Your family after God. It comes second. I'm sorry, don't come first, but it's very important.

Speaker 2: 24:14

You got to make those PTA meets. Well, back in our day they called it PTA meet. I don't know what they called it back then, but you got to make those meets. You got to show up at those basketball games and spending time with that spouse. You have to make time because if you don't make time then the enemy can come in and before you know it he will sow tares among your wheat.

Speaker 2: 24:43

Because the Bible says the Bible says men slept while men slept, amen. The Bible says Jesus said while men slept. The Bible says Jesus said while men slept, his enemy came in and sowed tares among the wheat. And you, as a minister of the gospel, you're not going to be effective until you identify who is your enemy, the enemy that's coming after your family, the enemy that's coming after your grace, your peace, your happiness. So you've got to identify that enemy and the only way you can be able to do that is that you got to learn your opponent. You got to study him. You got to watch out for his moves and you're going to be prayerful yes, sir, yes, sir, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 25:30

While men slept, I heard a man preach a message one time. He says sleeping at a dangerous time. Bishop, listen, I'm going to do something. I heard a man preach a message one time. He says sleeping at a dangerous time. Bishop, listen, I'm going to do something. I'm going to let you release a word. I know the thing that you love to talk about is leadership. I'm going to pull myself off the screen. I'm going to turn it in your hands. You got time to share as long as you want to. People are listening and they need to hear a nugget about leadership, and I want you to make a deposit in their life. So I'm pulling it off, I'm going to release Bishop James Farmer and we're going to hear a little bit about leadership.

Speaker 1: 26:06

You did a session at the Leadership Conference in 2024. And, my God, it was so impressive that we could tell it wasn't just a message, but it was a passion that's on your heart. So I'm not telling you what to share right now, but do a little bit of that. Whatever you did about a year or so ago, you can trickle some of that in there on the day and let the people hear it. I'll be back when you get through. Okay, all right, bishop God bless you.

Speaker 2: 26:38

Listen, listen. As Bishop Forst stated, one of our driving force here at the Purpose Church, where I oversee, is to raise up leaders and for leaders to understand their true assignment and for leaders to understand their true assignment. My mind goes back. I don't have any scripture. Oh, I should have said the Bible in front of me, but my mind goes back to Matthew 17. When Matthew 17, and speaking to leaders, speaking to leaders, that in Matthew 17, the Bible says and Jesus, take it, he take it. He take it.

Speaker 2: 27:24

Peter, john, up on the mountain. And there, there, he transfigured. He took them up on a mountain. He did not transfigure as as their leader Please catch this as their leader. He did not transfigure in the valley, in the plains.

Speaker 2: 27:42

Transfiguration as a leader happens on top of the mountain. He did not do it on the bottom of the mountain as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, out of the 12 disciples, he only took three with him Peter, james and John, the sons of thunder. He took them up a mountain and apart. That's what the text says. The text says he separate them apart. As a leader, you have to understand something In order for there to be growth, in order for there to be exposure from God. There is a season in your life, in a period that God has put aside to bring a separation, a separation from you. And watch this and your assignment. Jesus took Peter James and John, took them away from their assignment Because on the bottom of the hill watch this there were all type of matters that was going on the hill, watch this. There were all type of matters that was going on the father who's coming with the son, who was a lunatic, for he said, for off time he falleth into the fire, off time he falleth into the water, and all that. So ministry was going on at the bottom of the mountain. But the text says, the text says and Jesus took, he took Peter, james and John and set them apart. There are times when God have to set you apart as a leader so he can take you to another realm or another dimension.

Speaker 2: 29:13

The Bible says they went up up the mountain, they went up the mountain. Bottom of the mountain there's ministry. Up on the mountain there should be exposure and impartation. But before you get to the mountain please hear me before you get to the mountain, you will experience at least three seasons before you get to the top of the mountain. Reason being is because, as you climb higher to a place that's called destiny, the seasons are able to change. And most of the time they does change, because higher altitude will change watch this temperatures, oh God, I want somebody to hear me. I say higher altitude. It changes temperatures. Which means that as they were traveling up the mountain watch this they went from summer in the valley to now they're going into fall. They had experienced fall and then, when it gets up to the top, come find out. A lot of times, on most mountains, you'll see snow. So most of the time, you go through three different seasons. Reason being is because, before God began to expose himself to you or give unto you, he wanted to see how do you deal with change? You cannot expect your people to deal with change when you, as a leader, cannot handle change. Oh my God. You cannot expect your people, my God, to become unstuck when you are stuck. Okay, so the Bible says they went on top of the mountain. And when they went on top of the mountain, watch this the first thing that Jesus did please catch this the first thing that Jesus did, he transfigured in front of them. He transfigured in front of them. In front of them, which means, which means that right before them he transfigured, transformed from out of one identity into another identity. What are you saying, dr Farmer? What I'm saying is is that when God, when God, began to deal with you as a leader, he wants to also, he watch this, he wants to see if you're able to handle new identities. Good God, almighty, lord, have mercy, because who you were in the valley in ministry, who you are in the valley of ministry, as God began to elevate you and take you higher, watch this, automatically. Watch this transformation. Transformation began to take place. And when Jesus transfigured, and right before them, here come Moses and Elijah, and the Bible says he's talking, he's talking to them and as he's talking to them, watch this.

Speaker 2: 32:18

Then it was Peter. It was Peter. Now, remember, catch this. He transfigured out of one identity and transfigured into another identity. But look what Peter said. The first thing that Peter said, he said Lord, it is good for us to be here, go have mercy, watch this. It is good for us to be here, lord, have mercy, watch this. Isn't it amazing that when he called him Lord, go back and look at the text. When he called him, lord. When he called him Lord, jesus never responded to him. Jesus never acknowledged him. Why, why is it that Jesus never acknowledged when Peter called him Lord? I'm glad you asked the reason why Jesus did not acknowledge or respond to when Peter called him Lord. He said Lord, it's good for us to be here. It's because you couldn't be possible that, when God has brought transformation in your life and God has transfigured your ministry and transfigured your identity, that the reason why people are stuck in your congregation, those who are following you, is because watch this, referring to who you used to be, and cannot identify who you are today. Lord have mercy. And people don't understand that.

Speaker 2: 33:41

What true leaders, true leadership that God will transfigure a leader. God will, he will transform a leader from out of one facet of life to another facet of life, from one identity to another identity. So so somebody said well, I mean, I mean, were you saying Jesus transfigured into another identity? Well, catch this. The Bible says in the book of Revelation, around the 19th chapter, the Bible said that he that sat upon the horse, the white horse, that on his forehead was written a name that no man knew, but he himself, I'm going to say it again. The Bible says in the book of Revelation that he, he that sat upon the white horse, that on his forehead was written a name. It written a name that no one knew but he himself. Could it be possible that on the Mount of Transfiguration, that Jesus transfigured into that identity, lord, have mercy. So no wonder they called him Lord, because he could not identify of what he transfigured into. And so it was then.

Speaker 2: 35:01

So it is now, as a leader, as a leader. Oh my God, your people, they got to get the revelation of who you are as a leader, Because until they get the understanding of who you are as a leader, they'll never be able to get the understanding or the revelation of where you're going. Let me further prove my point. He said Lord, it's good for us to be here. He said watch this. He said bid me to build three tapernacles. He said bid me to build three tapernacles, three tabernacles, three. He said one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah. He said bid me to build three tabernacles, one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah. Well, the only problem with that is is that tabernacle in Hebrew is Elimoeg, elimoeg, which means and translates a place of meeting which house? It house a meeting and it also house tradition.

Speaker 2: 36:09

So, in essence, in essence, what Jesus did when he transfigured into a new identity, he was bringing forth the revelation of who really Jesus Christ is. He was trying to reveal the revelation. But look what Peter said allow me to put what you're trying to reveal unto me into Elie Moeg, in a traditional box, in a traditional dogma. Lord, have mercy you trying to give me revelation, but I want to take your revelation and traditionalize it and put it in a dogma. Oh my God, and see, watch this, this and watch this. This is so interesting. The moment he said that, the moment he said that, then the father spoke out of heaven and this is what he said. He said this is my son and whom I will please hear ye him.

Speaker 2: 37:15

And the Bible says, the Bible says that these are leaders, these are leaders that Jesus, jesus just exposed and tried to reveal who he is. Because, remember, the book of Revelation is not called the book of Revelation, it's called the book of the revelation of Jesus Christ, where he was trying to reveal who he really was on the Mount of Transfiguration. But the moment the Father spoke out of heaven, the Bible says, and they hid their face for they were so afraid. But that was danger. That was danger. That was dangerous when they did that, bishop, and the reason why I'm sorry, I'm out of time, bishop, talk, talk, talk, talk. The reason that it was dangerous when they hid their face is because a hidden face in the Greek has a meaning. It means fear, it means shame, meaning, it means fear, it means shame and it also means rejection. So when Peter and John and James hit their face, not understanding what they did when they hit their face, they was rejecting the revelation that Jesus was trying to give them up on the Mount of Transfiguration. So what I'm saying is that if they would have respected and received the transformation and the revelation that Jesus was given, then Peter wouldn't have been hung upside down, james would not have never got beheaded and John wouldn't found himself on the on the pad of this.

Speaker 2: 39:01

Because whenever you had your face to revelation as a leader, but you're telling God that you're rejecting what he's trying to propose to you, of that, what is to come. So we have to be careful. We have to be careful as leaders that we're able to hold on and house that what God wants to do in our lives, because God and I, my bishop, my bishop, been preaching this for many years and that's this he said God has to do what he needs to do in you so he can do what he wants to do through you. He can't do what he wants to do through until he first do what he needs to do in you, so he can do what he wants to do through you. He can't do what he wants to do through until he first do what he needs to do in.

Speaker 2: 39:44

Okay, so, as a leader, make sure that, as God takes you up on the mountain, as God takes you up higher, that you're able to hold and hold on to high altitudes, because altitudes will determine whether or not, if you're ready for it, because when you get up there the air is thin. Don't have mercy. The temperature changes. Oh lord, have mercy. Mountains are for impartation. That is always for ministry. Back into the hands of my bishop. God bless you, bishop.

Speaker 1: 40:21

Bishop, you did it. I wanted to hear that kind of word. That's the kind of word I was talking about, that we received down in the leadership conference. It's been a blessing having you on. I thank God for you sharing your wisdom. And if people want to know more about Bishop James Farmer, the Purpose Church, what do they need to do? What do they need to do?

Speaker 2: 40:43

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Speaker 1: 40:54

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Speaker 2: 40:58

I'm sorry TPC Say that again. T P C H C dot com.

Speaker 1: 41:07

Dot com. Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.

Speaker 2: 41:11

You can find us on social media. As far as Facebook, the Purpose Church of Orlando. We're also on YouTube and other films as well. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1: 41:23

Listen, you're doing a great job in the kingdom. I want to thank you for being our special guest on tonight and I want to say to everybody that's listening look them up. The Purpose Church. His name is Bishop James Farmer. They're doing a dynamic work in the kingdom, in North Carolina, in Orlando, florida and different parts of the country. So, listen, I want to thank God for you. I want to thank God for you all that are tuning in on today and I want to tell you we are storming the gates, teaching God's people how to walk in the victory that God has for their life. May the Lord bless you and may the Lord keep you is always my prayer. You have a phenomenal evening.