Welcome And Share The Stream

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Well, God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. You have tuned into the Storming Negates podcast with Bishop Eugene Taylor. And I'm so blessed and honored of the Lord to have you with us on tonight. Please remember that the Storming Negates podcast comes on every first Monday of the month. Now, what do you consider the first Monday? The first Monday is the Monday after the first Sunday. And the reason I'm saying it like that, because it doesn't always fall on that day, the first Monday of the month. Sometimes the months will start on a Monday. But every Monday after the first Sunday, we're on the Storming Negates podcast. We're teaching God's people how to walk in the victory that God has for their life and walk against every strategy, every plan, every plot, and every scheme of the enemy. I pray everyone is doing well. And listen, tonight, you don't want to miss it tonight. There's something special happening tonight. And I need you, I need everybody, I need everybody. Who do I need? I need everybody to share this podcast, let them know that we're getting ready to get started. I've got a powerful man of God that's gonna be with us on tonight, and I was certainly excited about this podcast in the person of Apostle Daniel Aikens. I'm gonna let him come on and introduce himself, but I've I've watched him down through the years, and this man of God has a true apostolic ministry. And you know, you you you really can enjoy and appreciate when you see true apostolic ministries and when you understand who God has called you to be. I was so privileged on last um on last year. I went down and preached in their convocation, and I'm gonna say two words. Oh, we I'm talking about we had a powerful convocation down there, but it was in Albany, Georgia, and Lord met us in such a wonderful, wonderful way. And sometimes when you see um when you see that type of grace and that type of anointing on a gathering when the people come together, that is reflective of the leader. And the convocation, the convocation had the scent of the leader on last year. So I'm excited. I'm not gonna take a lot of time. I'm gonna bring this powerful man of God up, but I'm gonna tell you it's gonna be good on tonight. Now, let me tell you what's happening. I already told you it was gonna be good, and I told you to share the podcast with somebody, and you ain't shared it with nobody. Now, I'm telling you that it's gonna be real good and it's worth sharing. I'm waiting on you to share the podcast because somebody needs to hear what's gonna be released on tonight. There's a glory that's gonna be released on tonight. I'm ready to bring him up. This apostle Daniel Akins, let me bring him up right now. God bless you, Apostle Daniel Akins. We're so blessed to have you on tonight.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Blessings, Bishop Apostle. I am excited to be with you here uh on the Storm and the Gates podcast. I'm excited, just excited, excited.

Meet Apostle Daniel Akins

SPEAKER_02 7:38

You know, I told the people I've been watching your ministry for years, but I told them last month, not last month, last year, I was down in that convocation. I'm telling you, you guys put on a convocation in a half, like a whole convocation, another half of one in one night. Listen, we'll start off like this. Let's start off like this because you and I have already had prayer, so we already prayed that the Lord would race us on tonight. Tell the people who Apostle Daniel Aikens is, and then tell the people who Daniel Aikens is.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Amen. All right, well, I am Apostle Daniel L. Akins. Um, I'm the senior pastor of Moore Show World Church uh in Delaware and Georgia, uh, the presiding prelate of uh Voice of Many Words Apostolic Alliance of Churches. I've been preaching now for 30 years, um, 31 years. I've been pastoring now for about 27 years, 26, 27 years. And um my wife and I, we planted our first church in Seaford, Delaware in 1999. And um uh let me just say this as well. I've been married to my beautiful wife, and I know you said telling people who Daniel Akins is, but I'm gonna let them know that I've been married to my beautiful wife, uh Pastor Vignette Akins, for uh 20, 29 years. And so uh, but yeah, God has graced us, and uh, we've been uh doing ministry. Um God raised us up, and we've been on the battlefield now for 30 years and uh establishing churches, God's people, uh planning churches. Uh as I said, we have a fellowship of about 13 churches, and God has just been good to us. And uh, I've been graced to preach um around the country and uh globally, and so we're excited about what God is doing um with Apostle Daniel L. Aikens ministries.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Now I was blessed to meet you for a dear friend of mine, a dear friend of mine, uh my gracious Apostle Timothy Relevant. We've been friends, I think this year make about 26 years. He's a friend and a brother in a relationship that I consider a real authentic relationship, no ulterior motives. We just walked together for many years. And he told me, I mean, he told me years ago when we met. He said, I want you to meet Apostle Akins. And I mean, it went for years, and we would just talk casually. He said, Listen, I got to connect you to Apostle Aikens. I appreciate his ministry so much. He's gonna be with me in the month of May. He is a powerful man of God as well.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Yes, and he he works with you in your fellowship, doesn't he? Yes, he does. Yes, he does. He's he became a part of our fellowship about maybe um I want to say maybe three years ago. Okay, um, yeah, maybe three years ago, and uh we've been enjoying Apostle Relevant as yourself. Uh, I've been knowing Apostle Relford. I think I moved to Warner Robinson. I'm from Delaware. I moved to Warner Robins, Georgia in 2000, I think it was two, and I met Apostle Rutherford shortly thereafter, and uh he would come to preach to make it. I would come to a service and we connected, and then he had me up there to Stone Mountain when he had his church in Stone Mountain. Yeah, so I guess we've been in Covenant since 2002. We since that night, I did a 30-day revival. Uh, when I was trying to plant my church in Warner Robins, way back then, in some kind of way, he was at the end of the service, and we connected and we talked at the end of the service, and uh, we've been hanging out together since then. I'm gonna tell you something now. He speaks so highly of Apostle Eugene Teller, and he did the same thing to me. He said, Listen, man, you gotta get Apostle Eugene Teller. That's why I brought you to my church in Georgia. Yeah, he recommended you so highly, and I said, Well, man, if you're saying that about the man of God, and I respect the grace and the anointing that's on you, I'm gonna bring them on in because that speaks values to me.

What Apostolic Ministry Really Means

SPEAKER_02 11:28

So, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how that happened. The same thing, the same thing, you know. Um, I Georgia ministry when we did the um reaffirm reaffirmation for apostle relevant. I mean, but I've heard you preach so many times, but you have a unique apostolic ministry. When I say unique, I mean this it's an authentic apostolic ministry. You know, people use the word apostle and they use the word prophet, but many times people will say that, but they have no, they haven't even conceptualized what apostolic ministry is. Apostle, before we get started, I want to ask you a question. What in your in your period language? What is apostolic ministry? Help us out tonight.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

So, apostolic ministry, uh, to me in his tourist form, first of all, it's authoritative. Apostolic ministry is authoritative. Um, when I say authoritative, I don't mean screaming, I don't mean hollering, I mean that there is a seal that gets on the true apostle that when they open their mouth or when uh he or she opens their mouth, you can discern that grace on them. Um, when Paul came in contact with the apostles that were apostles before him in Jerusalem, and they gave him the right hand of fellowship, they made this statement that they perceived the grace of God that was upon him, and that grace is authoritative. You don't that once again, you don't have to scream it, you don't have to, but but you can just hear that authentic authority when even in basic conversations, just simple conversations, you can hear that their understanding, the way they see scripture, the revelation they have, the the uh the the authority that they operate in and talk from is different. When Jesus came on the scene, they made this statement about him. They said he doesn't he doesn't speak like the scribes or Pharisees, but he speaks like one that has authority. Already, yes. So in in the purest form of the apostolic, it's authoritative, it's very authoritative, and um it's also, of course, it's a sent uh there's a sent dimension to that as a special messenger. We're sent um um as a messenger, just just in a nutshell, you know, there's so there's a whole bunch that deals with the function of the apostleship, but in the nutshell, that's the pure form of the apostolic, you know, just just having that simple uh moving in authority, moving in authority.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

I like I like the word that you use function, and I'm gonna tell you why. Because one of the things that needs to be understood from what I'm seeing in the church is that um when a person moves into the apostolic, it's not a promotion per se, it's a functionality, right? See, sometimes that's what people look. Well, you've been around long enough, they should be pushing you to as to an apostle. Yes, yes, push anybody into an apostle. Apostolic call is a functionality, so we'll understand how to operate in that office, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Yes, yes, yeah. It's not it's not something that you don't grow into that, right? Right, right, right, right. You don't you don't grow into it, yeah. You grow in your grace as an apostle, yeah, but you don't grow into being an apostle, yes, Jesus Himself makes you that from the foundation of the world, and a lot of times what happens is people start moving apostolically, and they confuse that with the office, yes, and they're not the same, absolutely. You understand what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 14:59

So, yeah, yeah, I I was uh I think I was in South Africa and I was teaching on that, and I was coming from Ephesians 4 and 7, where he talks about the grace that's been given to all men, and then it goes down and begins to talk about the office, and people have to understand that the Holy Spirit, um, that's an apostolic anointing that operates through the Holy Spirit. Um, if a person operates in the apostolic call, they're anointed by the Holy Ghost to operate in that call, so that means there's a grace and an anointing for the apostolic, prophetic, evangelist, pastor, teacher, but that does not mean that you're called to that office. That's right. Apostle, I'm gonna tell you something. When I first got started, and I used to prophesy and prophesy and prophesy, and they tried to call me prophet Taylor. You tried to put a label on me, try to call me prophet Taylor, right? I said, No, I didn't even understand the apostolic, but I knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that I was not called to be a prophet, I knew it, right? I would prophesy, and the prophecy would be accurate, but that's when I began to understand. I said, That's not the call that's on my life. Many people don't understand that. Many people prophesy. I see you prophesy, and when you prophesy, you prophesy accurately, but you're not standing in the office of a prophet. Let's talk about that for a moment.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yeah, so what I think happens is whenever we move in the apostolic, right, as apostles, we go up and down in all the offices, we go up and down in them at some point with the evangelists, at some point with the prophet, at some point with the you understand, but the strength of our call is the apostleship. Yes, the true apostle is going to visit all of those offices, right? As at some point or another, like like yourself, you pass it too, but you're an apostle, yes. You see what I'm saying? Then you move in the prophetic, right? So you're going to go in and out of those, but as you said, your your your main function, the strength of your function is from your apostolic grace. Everything else is is secondary, it's almost like being a um being a a corner, uh, what's that uh in the in the military, whatever the highest rank is in the military. Well, he has some knowledge of everything, yes, right? The navy, the marines, the army, the yes, you know, he has some knowledge of it all, right? Um, but but he functions at at the at the top, and so yeah, yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

I used to work at a restaurant. I don't know if you remember when you were down here in Georgia called Mrs. Winners. You you remember Mrs. Winners?

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Mrs.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Winter's chicken and biscuits. Yeah, I got a job as a teenager and I started as a biscuit maker. Well, they wind up promoting me to the manager. So as I was operating as the manager, I'd have little young guys come in and say, I walk out and quit. They'd be little chicken fry cooks and biscuit makers. I said, Well, you get on out of here. I said, because I know how to do all of it. So I've been able to take the knowledge. That's an excellent example, Apostle. You know, you know, and I use the term bishop, and I I explained to those under me, I said, the call of my life, just like you, the call of my life is that of an apostle. I am a bishop over a fellowship, and that's what a lot of people understand. You're not called to be a bishop, you're not called that's an administrative. If any man desires the office of a bishop, right, it's not something good, but the call on your life, that's something completely different.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Yes, yes, and you know, one of the things I I tell people that whenever you are an apostle, uh for lack of a better word, please excuse me, I don't want to offend anybody, but by the fault, you're already a part of the bishopric, yes, yes, because when they replaced Judas, yes, and and put Matthias in office, they they said we have to find somebody for his bishopric, bishopric, yes, that's it. For his bishopric, yes, for his bishopric.

Why Foundational Leaders Face Resistance

SPEAKER_02 19:02

So as an apostle, now every apostle is a bishop, yes, but every bishop is not an apostle, it's not an apostle, and that's absolutely every bishop is not an apostle, but every apostle has a bishopric. What does that think of bishop? Acts 1 and 20, right around 2020. Yeah, yeah. Apostle, I want to talk with you about something. Um, why do you think that apostolic and prophetic leaders often face intense misunderstanding, isolation, or relational strain? Why do you think that is for those that operate particularly in the apostolic and prophetic office?

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Well, uh, I think there are many reasons, but one of the the one of the reasons I believe that we we find ourselves in so much opposition is because we're foundational. Yes, we're foundational. And whenever you're foundational, then you you're going to experience a lot more warfare because and the reason being the Jesus or Paul taught that Jesus Christ is the chief cornerstone, right? Yes, and um he said, but the church was built upon the apostles and prophets, yes, Christ being the chief cornerstone. Well, well, as a foundation, what the devil wants so badly right now in the body of Christ, and this is why we have to keep we have to stay on the cutting edge and keep our hearts right and keep our hearts pure and and and not get carried away with the world and and all of the what's hot and what's not as apostles. Because what's happening right now, Satan is going after the foundation, yes, yes, foundation of Christianity, he's going after the foundation of what we believe, right? So that's the so he he goes after the foundation, and because we're foundational gifts, we're up under attack all the time because we're contending for the faith that was once delivered to the saints, yeah, because we are foundational gifts, right? And so I gotta attack you. If I can if I can pervert apostle aches, then he's if I pervert him, then I help destroy the foundation. Yeah, now as an apostle, he can't say what needs to be said, he can't preach what needs to be preached, right? Because I've ripped a foundation from him, and the scripture says, if the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do? Right. So that's one of the reasons.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

I think because we're foundational, yes, and and and one of the things that I found out um in these offices, there needs to be an understanding that many times you you can associate and God gives you certain relationships, but you've been called to walk alone, not not not by yourself, but you gotta understand that God will give connections, but you've been called to walk alone. As you walk in this, as you walk this walk, God will put people in your path. But one of the things that an apostle, the prophet, has to understand, you're gonna have to understand rejection if you're gonna walk in the apostolic office. Yes, yes. Many times I talk about the apostle Paul. The apostle Paul he wanted to be accepted in Jerusalem, and he finally got to the point that he kind of sorta, kind of sorta is more no than yes, but it wanted to be accepted, and that thing always bothered him because if you look at him, he begins to write, he keeps saying, Ah, Paul, I am I am an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ. Right many times, if you if you look at the church of Antioch, the church of Antioch is our blueprint of the apostolic church, not the church of Jerusalem, not the church of Jerusalem. God told him at Jerusalem, he said, Go to uh Jerusalem, Samaria, uh uh Judea in the uttermost parts of the earth. They wouldn't go anywhere, right? And it was only in Acts 8 and 1, after they saw the death took place, the Bible says they went where they were supposed to go. My point is this right here. Because Paul was rejected, we have Antioch. And Paul writes, we say a third of the New Testament, but it's closer to half. But it's we'll say a third to be safe, right? But all of this happened out of a man being rejected. I want to talk about apostolic and prophetic ministry, and I want to talk about the rejection that comes along with that, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Yeah, so you know, the the strength, and this might sound crazy, but the strength to someone who doesn't know the strength of uh a true apostle, uh a true prophet, the apostolic, is is their ability to be rejected and be okay with it. Right? You have to learn how to be rejected and to be okay with it. Jesus said, I was a worm, uh desire to know man. I was I was a reproach to many people, right? You know, he was he was he was rejected, but he also said that he was the chief cornerstone, right? So you can't allow, as an apostle, people's rejection to make you doubt your identity or your calling, yes, or who you are, and so and the reason why God allows rejection in the apostle's life is because God wants that apostle to stay close to him, then he stays closer to anybody else, yes, right? And so rejection is a tool that God uses to make us draw from him, to make us spend time with him, right? You know, the devil thinks evil against us, but God means nothing to good, and and as an apostle, you have to come to grips with being rejected or not received, and and not let that bother you. Understand that God will use rejection to to establish us in a greater intimacy with him, in a greater communion with him, in a greater fellowship with him, you know. And I think that's what happens with apostles, and this is one of the reasons why um we're rejected so much, it's not so much, it's not so much about what they're doing, it's about what God is allowing, right? Because this apostle has to a true apostle, a seasoned apostle has to stay so close to God. I tell people like this, apostle. I tell them like this whoever you spend the most time with, that's who's gonna have influence over you. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

That is so true. You know, when when I tell you about that season where I would prophesy and they would try to call me prophet, I didn't understand anything about the prophetic, right? This this is what I understood. This was my understanding of the prophetic. If you spend a time a lot of time with God, he'll tell you something, right? Right. That's it. That's it. No more prophetic training than that. Didn't worry about no calls or nothing. I knew that if you spend with God, time with God, you'll hear the whisperings of the Holy Ghost.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

That's right.

Identity Attacks And Comparison Traps

SPEAKER_02 26:10

And they would they begin to go on with all the different training. I begin to understand and learn more later, but I understood. I grew up in a family, I grew up around some prayer warriors. Now, mind you, I was not one of them at all, but I grew up around some praying people. I'm gonna say that again. I was not one of them at all. Wasn't interested in praying, wasn't interested in being saved, wasn't interested in living for the Lord. I always tell people because the ministry of prayer is something the Lord has given me, but I always tell people I said if you go in the house and they're frying fish, even if you don't eat any of the fish, when you come and get in the car, you smell like fish. That's right. The only thing happened to me, I just smelt like fish because I was around it because I wasn't eating any of it. But I realized through that time that the Lord was depositing something inside of me. I want to say, I want to ask you another question. Have you seen warfare come more against your identity or your assignment? And and and if so, how how do you discern the difference? Have you seen it come against your identity or your assignment?

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Well, you know, early, and I'll I'll answer that in two parts. Early in my apostolic ministry or calling, it was more against my identity. Okay, and uh so I'll say it that way. If if I'm understanding your question right, identity meaning my office, meaning, meaning who are you?

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Well, your identity, he he came off of it. If I'm understanding you right. When I say your identity, yeah, can you still hear me? Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Okay, can you hear me now? Go out and come back in. That's all right, we're gonna be fine. Go out and come back in, Apostle. I know how to fix this. Yes, sir. I mean you can you hear me? Apostle I'll lose you. Yeah, Apostle, go out, go out and come back in.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Go out and come back in, yes, sir. All right, listen, saints. This is a good broadcast. Apostle Aiden's gonna go out and come back in. I hope y'all are getting something on tonight. The man of God is releasing and he is imparting and he is depositing, and and you still got time to share this and invite somebody. Somebody needs to be a part of this instruction. But I will tell you this, I will tell you this while we're waiting on the man of God to come back in. Uh, can you hear me now, Apostle? Yeah, I'm here. I'm sorry. But I will tell you this while we're waiting on the man of God to come back in. Apostle Akins is going to be our speaker at our annual gathering of intercessors conference in the month of October. So you're going to be able to experience his ministry and make sure you mark that on your candle. I think it's like October the 3rd. That's the uh first Friday in the month of October. All right. So, Apostle, what I was saying is this right here. I said, When I see your identity, I'm talking about against who you are, I'm talking about assignments against who you are to muzzle and smother your mouth. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

So when we so I would say this early in my ministry as an apostle, I think the attack was identity. Um, and that was that was within me, and that was against me. And um, and the reason why I say that is because um I tell people all the time, when people ask me, How do I know if I'm called to be an apostle? How do I know if I'm called to be a prophet, any prophet? I said 90% of the time, God is going to make it clear to you that you are a fireful ministry gift. Very, he's gonna make that very clear to you, and the reason why he has to make it clear to you, because whenever you hit a season while he's preparing you or grooming you into your office, your identity will be challenged through the pain, the suffering, the rejection, all of that will come against you to make you doubt who you know you are. Yes, right? The waiting season, the rejection season, um, the season where you're not seeing the fruit of all of your praying and your fasting and your labor. And at that moment, your identity is challenged. At that moment, your identity is challenged. And and I think this is why Jesus was so effective in his ministry, in his calling, because he he was affirmed of his father. When he came out of Jordan River, his father said, This is my beloved son, in whom I'm well pleased, right? And so, even though even though uh he ends up going into the wilderness right after that, right, Satan could not overthrow uh who he was, his identity, because even though he kept saying, if you be the son of God, if you be this, if you be that, Jesus wasn't in a fight with his identity, he knew exactly who he was, and even when his weakest moment, he always knew who he was. Even when the Pharisees, when when when when when when the Sadducees they would reject him, they would they would try to snurb up in his words, even when people tried to come and make him king before his time, yeah, he didn't even let that bother him. Yes, because he knew his identity. I don't need your self-exaltation because I know who I am, right? And so this is why we have people reaching for titles, they're not really called to it, reaching for positions they're not really called to because they're in an identity crisis, right? And so anytime somebody, anytime somebody wants to make them king, they jump on it. Oh, come to my church, I'll make you a prophet, come to my church, I'll make you an evangelist, come to my church, right? And instead of waiting out the prop process or just realizing that's not what I'm called to. Jesus knew his identity, even when they tried to make him king, the Bible said he hid himself. Because when you know your identity, you're not impressed with stuff. You can't be moved out of the will of God for your life because I know my identity. All right, I'll stop right there.

Tough Skin Forgiveness And Healing

SPEAKER_02 32:25

No, no, you you no, no, no, because you're talking real good, and I'm gonna tell you something. And when you don't know your identity, one of the things that you're affected by is that spirit of comparison. Yes, that's that is that is a demonic trick of the enemy, yes, that you would operate inside of comparison. Because let me tell you what comparison does. Comparison causes you to lose your identity, which will cause you to lose your assignment. Yes, many people they've compared themselves to somebody else and compared themselves to what someone else is doing, and when they got into that realm of comparison, they lost their identity. It's in and I'm gonna tell you something, challenges do this. I was thinking about Moses, and I teach about this sometime, Apostle. Um, when Moses talks to God, he tells him, he says, I'm not eloquent of speech, neither have I ever been. But in Acts the seventh chapter, they said he was powerful in word when he was 40 years old and powerful indeed. Yes, you can go through so much in the wilderness, it'll cause you to lose who you ever were. You'll completely lose your identity because of the challenge you've gone through. That's right. So, with that being a question, let me ask you, uh thought, let me ask you something. How do you guard your spirit from being discouraged and still be sensitive to the designing of the Holy Spirit? How do you guard your spirit from being so damaged and so discouraged and still have the ability to be sensitive and hear what the spirit of God is saying to you, apostle?

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Well, I well, I I wrote a book, my first book was called The Price of the Apostolic. Okay. Uh a highing let loose, fighting for this precious ministry. And in one of those chapters, I talk about um uh uh developing tough skin as an apostle. And one of the things the Lord taught me early as an apostle, and he was when he was preparing me and grooming me for apostolic ministry way back then, he was allowing so much stuff to happen, and it was devastating, it was painful, homelessness, uh, you know, church not growing, and you know, just just all kinds of discouragement seasons that I had to keep navigating through, right? And uh, but one of the things the Lord spoke to me in that season was He says, He said to me, uh, he says, there's a scripture in the book of Joel, and it talks about that they will fall on swords and not be wounded. Okay, and he he began to deal with me about I'm toughening you up, and and and you gotta know how to fall on swords and it not wound you. And I teach that apostolically that God, if you're gonna be an apostle, God will manipulate circumstances, create situations where you have to keep falling on swords, but none of it can wound you. You you can't never come up bitter, you can't never come up. You know, I had this apostle preach for me years ago, right? The boy was bad, man. The boy full of the word, full of revelation. But you could tell he had been through so much church hurt, rejection, pain, and it was obvious I took a chance on him. Bring up my church. I heard it in conversation, but I was trying to help him, and I couldn't help him. I was trying to, and he got in my pulpit, and man, that guy just started talking all kinds of crazy stuff, man. Just letting all kinds of stuff come out of his mouth that should not have been said across the pulpit, right? And and the Lord began to show me, see, that's a wounded apostle. Yes, that's an apostle, yes, that's an apostle right there that did not overcome seasoned of discouragement the right way. Yes, you understand what I'm saying? I completely understand what you're saying. He didn't he didn't survive it the right way. The Bible said Paul got bit by vipers, and the people, the scripture says they saw it hang on his hand, but Paul shook it off, and the Bible said he felt no harm, and God began to show me that as an apostle, you got to be able to be hit, deal with rejection, deal with church splits, and you as an apostle can't come up with poison in your heart. You can't come up bitter, you can't you can't come up bitter.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

Go ahead. Yes, that that guy, the guy you're speaking of, and I've seen it several times myself, they have the grace, they have the anointing, but they're not healed. So, since they're not healed, when they get in the pulpit, they bleed all over the people. They all they do, they they listen. The funny the funniest thing about it is because the grace will be there while they're preaching, the anointing will be heavy while they're preaching. Yes, but before they get through with that message, they go bleed, they're gonna bleed all over the people, and and and that shows the grace of God. I'm gonna tell you something that root of bitterness, and in a lot of times, when people have gone through so many challenges, apostle, and you and I've learned this, and this is so important, it's hard for people to forgive. You've got to they don't understand that that that the enemy it gives them legal rights when we don't forgive, right? If you look in the what is it, um, in in the book of Matthew, when he talks about the young man didn't forgive, talks about how he turned them over to the tormentors. That's a picture of demons that when you don't forgive, you give demonic spirits a legal right to attack so many areas in your life. I'm gonna give it back to you, Apostle. Go on and take it and run with it.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that that's so powerful, right? That it's just and so just to um I think that the question he was talking about how do you how do you basically keep a right spirit and and and keep doing what you're called to do, you know, when you've had those seasons of discouragement. You know, when you look at the life of Jacob, right? He worked seven years for Rachel, went in the tent that night, thought he was gonna have Rachel, and he came up with Leah. And when he woke up the next day, he ran to his father-in-law and said, 'Hey man, what are you doing?' And the father said, It's not our custom to give the youngest daughter before we give the eldest daughter. And he told him, If you work seven more years, I'll give you Rachel. And what that taught me years ago is that God will allow circumstances to show up that will discourage you, but then it's our job as apostles to make the spiritual adjustments to work seven more years, right? Let me let me make this adjustment because and if you're going to be an apostle, you're going to have to defeat discouragement. Not once, not twice, but many times. And you know that yourself.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

And you can be so focused on how he did you wrong with Leah that you never get your Rachel. Yes, you can just keep saying, I was done wrong. And see, that's the thing about it. Yes, because many times when you were done wrong, it's true, you were done wrong. But if you don't make you, like you just said, if you don't make the adjustment, you'll focus on the negativity of Leah and never get the Rachel that God has for you. And many people, that's what they captured by I was done wrong. Got it, you were done wrong. But if you don't let it go, you're never gonna get your Rachel.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Yes, yeah, and that's and I love the point you just made because you know yourself as a father, grooming people, developing them for ministry. We've seen people just quit right when they were right there, they were right there, but they couldn't make an adjustment, they could not forgive, they could not release, and and we as apostles, we know firsthand that these things God allows right to purify us and to prove us for our next level or what we say we want from God, and oftentimes we have to sit back and watch people forfeit or sell their birthright for a part of me just because they don't know how to make an adjustment, you know.

Builders Warfare And Stolen Momentum

SPEAKER_02 40:54

Listen, this question is gonna sound like it's similar, but I I want to be a little more specific. It's gonna sound like it's similar to the question I asked you earlier, but listen to what I'm saying. What type of warfare specifically targets apostolic and prophetic voices? And how is it different from general warfare? We know walking as Christians, we're gonna have warfare, but what type of warfare specifically targets apostolic and prophetic uh voices?

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Well, so when you when you make when you ask this kind of question, immediately my mind goes back to Sambala and Tobaya. Okay, and the reason why my mind goes back to that is because even though that was these are that was in the old testament, and but those spirits are still alive, um, they're not sandballot and tobai anymore, right? But they're still in the earth, right? They're susie, they're John, yeah, they're yeah, are you saying right? We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against personality, these spirits are still here. Well, and the reason why I say specifically Sambalot Tobias, there are many more, of course, but because apostles are builders, yes, and so and because we are builders like Nehemiah, there will always be sandbalots and tobias with the assignment to weaken our hands in building. That's what their job was to weaken Nehemiah's hand, to put them in fear so they would stop building. So the apostle um is always going to deal with those kind of demonic uh activity, activities or spirits, because we're builders, and those spirits want to weaken our hand and intimidate us and and and make us forfeit our progress or what God is calling us to do. So I think every apostle, unlike the saint, unlike the saint, you know, they they'll get they'll get fought and they'll have warfare, but it's not going to be on the same uh level of intensity. Remember now the Bible says in Acts chapter 12 that Herod stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church, not everybody. I ain't going, I ain't going after everybody. I just want those apostles. I want James, I want John, I want Peter. Because if you smite the shepherd, the sheep will scatter. And so that those are things that that Herod is a type of principality that was trying to destroy the apostolic race, trying to kill the apostles from building and the and now watch this. Herod, prior to this, they had great momentum in the book of Acts. They were flowing, they were going in cities, revival was breaking out. So there's always a Herod spirit that comes to kill momentum when the apostles are building.

SPEAKER_02 43:55

But go ahead, go ahead, Paul. No, no, no, no. I'm listening, and I'm gonna tell you something. That Sambella and Tobiya they'll use so many things, they'll bring accusation against the works they're doing. They'll try to cause fear to the other people. Hey, this wall that they're building is very fragile. Don't you walk on the wall? If that doesn't work, they say this right here. You know what? Just come on down. Just come on down here. They'll use all a plethora of strategies to kill momentum. Um, momentum is such a powerful thing. I when I think about momentum, I think about a train apostle. When a train is starting, you know, you can just put a little rock in front of the wheel of that train, and the train won't be able to move. Wow. But once that train catches momentum, you can have a brick wall in front of it and it'll bust to a wall. Now, I'm gonna ask you one more question, but I'm gonna prophesy to you right now. Can I prophesy to you? Yes, you can. My friend Apostle, the Lord is carrying you into a place of momentum when you come into a place of momentum. All of the things that he spoke from years ago, out of course, he's gonna bring them forth now. My friend Apostle, the Lord spoke to Zachariah, and he said, Told Zachariah, he said, I heard your prayer, and Zechariah was lost. What prayer are you talking about? Because I prayed this prayer so long ago. The Holy Ghost is bringing you and your ministry into a place of momentum that He's gonna respond to some prayers that were prayed 30 years ago because this is the season independent. The Lord's gonna give you long life. This is what I'm saying. The Lord's gonna give you long life because he's called you to be a general. When he spoke to you about being a general, not an apostle. When he spoke to you about being a general, not an apostle, when he spoke to you about being a general, that was years ago. But now it's time for you to shift into that place. They viewed you as an apostolic father, but you're being presented to another group of people. I wasn't planning on doing that. I hear the Holy Ghost, I hear the Holy Ghost momentum is gonna work on your hands soon. Glory to God. I'm sorry. I hear I hear clearly.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Glory to God. Glory to God. I received that. Hallelujah. God is good. I receive that. That that just falls right in line with what my wife and I be have been talking about lately. We're just we're just you know, um, what like you said, once you get that momentum and and and that momentum gets going, it don't even matter no more. No, it don't like you said, that train, you can't put nothing in front of that train. Once that train gets going, you can't put nothing in front of that train. And um, so we receive that, Apostle. We appreciate your obedience. I know we're here together, but hey, that's how you know the Holy Ghost is in it, man. Because he needs to interrupt whenever he wants to interrupt.

Prayer Discipline And Daily Faithfulness

SPEAKER_02 46:54

I'm gonna ask you this last question, and I'm gonna turn you loose to release the word of the Lord to the people. This last question I'm gonna ask you. The last question is personally for you, what disciplines, okay, mindsets, or strategies have helped you remain effective and stable in the midst of all of that consistent warfare. What kind of discipline, what kind of mindset, what kind of strategies do you use that you can continue to be effective and you can continue to be stable in the midst of all of that consistent warfare? Would you share that with the people?

SPEAKER_00 47:30

Well, you know, it it's almost like uh going back to Nehemiah again. And you said it earlier how that the enemy used so much to try to intimidate Nehemiah. Uh, he even used a false prophet to uh prophesy to Nehemiah and uh tried to keep Nehemiah you know in a in a inside the um inside of the walls and told Nehemiah. And Nehemiah said, no, I'm not gonna stay here. You know, he was trying to put Nehemiah in fear, right? And so when I looked at my life and I look at the things that I've gone through in my life, I have to say the the thing that's been most consistent in my life to help me endure uh hardness as a good soldier and continue to do what God has called me to do is is my prayer life. That's the first thing. My prayer life has been um, I tell people all the time, I do my best to pray an hour every single day in tones. I've been doing that for years. Um, and and sometimes three times a day, an hour, sometimes, you know, I've I've done that. Um I've given myself to prayer, I've given myself to um a life of discipline, um uh prayer, reading, studying, um, fasting, uh, living, you know, learning how to be consistent. You know, you know, to be a man of God or a woman of God and to be effective, you gotta know how to be faithful. You gotta know how to be faithful, and faithful is not exciting. That's why people you know you jump from one wife to another wife to another because see, because you see, marriage is a routine, yes. Going to work every day for 30 years is a routine, those things aren't exciting, but those are the things that make you succeed in life, right? The Bible talks about the simplicity that's in Christ Jesus. You know, the problem with a lot of these younger preachers right now is that they just they they too they want to be flamboyant, they don't understand the necessity of just being faithful, yes, in the kingdom faithful rules, yes, if the kingdom, you know, faithful to prayer, faithful to worship, faithful to your family, faithful to your wife, faithful to your assignment. These are the things that have kept me, I would say, um, in the place that I've been in for the last 30-something years, just a time of prayer, fasting, seeking God, spiritual disciplines. Um, one of the scriptures, and I want to say this to anybody that may be a prophet or apostle that's in training, um, it's in Romans chapter 12, I believe it's verse 12. And I hold on to this scripture even to this day. When sometimes all you have as an apostle, because since we're talking about the apostolic, all you have is an apostle sometimes is your prayer life. That's all you got. Yes, that's all you got. So Paul makes this statement. He says, Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing instant in prayer. That scripture alone has carried me for many years.

Come Up Higher Through Stripping

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Apostle, I'm gonna tell you something. If it wasn't for my prayer life, I wouldn't stand, I wouldn't be able to stand. Yes, prayer is one of the key components of my life. Yes, um, every day, and I'll just say it like this I spend hours with the Lord in prayer every day, even if I can't do that. What do you mean that what do you mean that? Whatever that is, if I have to hold that off to tomorrow, there's a certain amount of time that I must spend with the Lord every day. Yes, I talked to you earlier today, and I said something I and I know you caught it when we talked earlier today. I said, Apostle, I'm living inside of a new yes, I'm living inside of new one. There's much more of you that has to die. Yeah, now people think that death is so hard, but one of the things that God does when He begins to kill areas out in your life, your appetite begins to change. Yes. When you do you eat, um, do you eat you like Mexican food? I do. When you come to Kanye's, I'm gonna take you over to a Mexican restaurant. Okay, okay. Oh my goodness, that's not the only place I'm gonna take. I know you want to eat more than some Mexican, but one of them days I'm gonna take you to a Mexican restaurant. That's a place down in in Kanye, they got authentic Mexican food. Yes, once I tasted that food, right? I couldn't go back to Taco Bell. Right. When I go to Taco Bell, I'd be mad. I mean, I'd be upset in the drive-thru because I didn't desire that anymore. People don't realize when God is causing arrogance in you to die, He says, Now, what you're gonna understand is I'm gonna let you taste something that's much better than that little that little quick drive-thru that you've been eating. Yeah, I'm gonna give you my God, I'm gonna give you something authentic, and it's gonna be so much better. Jim said, Except the seed fall to the ground and die. There's a death, burial, and resurrection process that has to happen before you can go to a new place. Yes, before God can elevate you, you'll see that there's an area of you that has to die. Yes, then it's got to be buried, and that's the only way God that can resurrect you for the next level. That's right. Apostle, I'm gonna pull myself out of here. I'm gonna let you listen. I know you ought to have been blessed today. I I already knew it was gonna be like this. I'm gonna pull myself out, I'm gonna let you minister the word of the Lord. What is the Lord saying? Then we're gonna come back and talk about some of the things in Delaware that's going on in Delaware real briefly. But I want you to tell these people that are on the line today, what do you feel that the Lord is saying for the season that we're in right now? I'm pulling myself out.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

It's all amen. Well, blessings, everyone. Um, I I personally believe that the Lord is um speaking to us in this hour, and he and he's really speaking to the church right now. I believe the church, God is speaking to the body of Christ in this season. And when I say speaking to the body of Christ, I believe God is is challenging the church um to come up hither. Um, in the book of Revelation, chapter four, there was a a uh cry and a call made to John to come up hither. And I believe that God is calling his his bride, his church to a higher place. He's calling us up in this season, he's calling us up in this season. And so for many of you, God is you're feeling the call to come up. Why? Because there is now a heavenly, you're there's a heavenly calling upon you, right? A high calling. That's what I want to say. There's a high calling on you, right? And it's as the bishop just said, apostle just said, and it requires another death. See, that's our language in Marshall Word Church. It requires that's how I know when apostles are speaking, because see, uh, apostles, their message kills you, it brings you to death, but we are first partaker of it. God puts us to death, and then we take that burden and give that burden to you, and so you can understand the heart of God through his servants, and so now we are regurgitating what God is saying to the church right now, and he's calling us up higher, but you cannot come the way you are. There is a a stripping that has to take place. Listen to me, before Jesus was crucified, they stripped him of his raiment. Are y'all hearing me? When Joseph was down in Pontifer's house, the scripture says that, first of all, his brother stripped him first of his coat of many colors, and then when he got to Pontiphar's house, his wife ran off with his clothing. And then when he got to prison, the Bible he had to change his clothes there. There were strippings that were happening. Many of you, there's always a stripping before an elevation, and I want to encourage you to not uh be bothered by the stripping. It may hurt, it may be painful, you may it may make you cry, but I want you to know it is only there because God is placing a high calling on you, and when he places a high calling on you, there's another death that's necessary, there's another dying that's necessary. Why? Because except a corner wheat falls to the ground, die, it abides alone. There can be no addition, there can be no multiplication. That seed is standing by itself until it dies and goes under the earth. And besides this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue and to virtue knowledge and to not see. You see, we're just adding to our faith now. And so, what is happening with many of you that God is allowing a death and a stripping to take place is not to kill you, it is to bring multiplication, to increase your wisdom, to increase your anointing, to increase revelation knowledge, to increase your the volume of your sound. And so I want you to know you're being called up. Jesus was called up when they hung him on the cross. He was called up, it was an ascension. But before that happened, the Bible said they stripped him of his garments. And I'm telling you, this is how you know that God is elevating you. It's an oxymoron. You start feeling stripped, you can't really understand why you feel the way you feel, why things are not working out the way you want them to work out. I remember those seasons as when God was training me and preparing me for where he was taking me. There were so many strip things that were taking place I could not understand. Well, I had all this grace and could preach, but nobody was showing up, and nobody was stripping me of pride and everything. He was stripping me of all these things, and he was purifying my heart and giving me a sound that came from heaven, not some sound that we mimic or not some borrowed vessel, but he was giving me a sound that came directly from heaven, but it took strippings and it took death for me to move into that realm. So I want y'all to be in carriage. I know you might be in the great fight of affliction right now, but be in carriage, God is with you, Apostle.

Delaware Building Testimony And Next Steps

SPEAKER_02 58:10

I have enjoyed you on tonight. You've certainly been a blessing to storm in the gates. I'm seeing some good stuff happening up there in Delaware. Yes, I've been seeing some new buildings and all kinds of church stuff going on. What's what's going on in Delaware with this new building? Tell me about it.

SPEAKER_00 58:28

Well, listen, it it listen, I'm gonna try to do it in brevity. About two years ago or so, we we jumped out in faith. We felt like God was calling us to bigger things. We came back from we were in Georgia for 18 years. We went out to Texas to plant a church in Texas. We started it. Uh pandemic hit. We said, Okay, God, what's going on? We don't know nobody out here, we're not going online. We sought the Lord, He led us back to our home state, which is Delaware. We uh we came back. The Lord says, Don't don't do it online, find the building. Lord, we're in the pandemic. Ain't nobody going to church. No, find the building. So I did that, found the building, preached, prophesied. We had a vision for two locations. I wanted to come up to Dover, Delaware. We ended up uh our rent was so high in Mofort. I said, you know what? We're just gonna shut this down. Let's just go to Dover, have a small little building in Dover. We was gonna the plan was to save money. We were able to save a few dollars, and then all of a sudden, this this building, as we were looking for a building, this 18,000 square foot building pops up, and and it's vacant. And I kept praying, God, give us a building. We need a building because where we were at, man, if it rained, it got all inside the church. We had to do all kinds of stuff just to get in the building. And I said, Lord, you got to give us a building, and so he gave us this building, an old furniture store, huge, it was bigger than our money, it was bigger than the people that I had. But the Lord said, Do it. He told me, just like he told uh Caleb, Caleb said, Give me this mountain, and that's what I kept declaring to God, Lord. I want this mountain right here. Long story short, we got the building, and uh for about a year we had it, couldn't do anything with it because we we couldn't get the paperwork right um from the city, and so we finally got the paperwork right. We started building, building, building, building. We had to we had to bring everything up to code. We we got well over a hundred thousand dollars in the building right now, and there's still so much work to be done, but we're in it, and so that's what's going on, man. And God is adding to the church as soon as we got this building. We just start seeing more people more seeing elks, and God is seeing y'all doing it. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

I'm seeing y'all. I mean, the Lord is back, Apostle. I've been seeing one of my administrators.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:44

She loves you. She told me the other day, she's an apostle. Uh, you know what? What about that uh that bishop that came on down to the uh he'll be up here soon over there about it?

Sow A Seed Closing Prayer

SPEAKER_02 1:00:54

Well, I'm looking forward to it. Apostle, listen, I want to do something before we get off the line. I want to sow into some of that stuff that's going on. I listen, I believe in sowing seeds, and I want to sow into some of that stuff that's going on up in Delaware. Let me let me I'm gonna put your this is the information I have for you. That's your cash app. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:12

That's correct.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

Yes, I'm gonna I want to sow into that. Some of you that are blessed on tonight, and if you would like to join me in sewing into Apostle Daniel Aiken, listen, he he he's not here to be so we he and I haven't talked about no uh money or anything, no, no, but I'm seeing what's going on, and the Lord has been blessing them. And I'm gonna tell you something, 2026 has been good to you all. I'm seeing what the Lord has been doing in this year of 2026. But listen, if you would like to join me on tonight, if you would like to sow into this man of God's ministry, so into him and sow into grace on his life, that is the uh Cash App information right below. And I know that every time I heard somebody say this, and I say it as well every time you sow a seed, you schedule a harvest, and I believe that, and that's why giving has changed my entire life. So listen, if you want to have information where to show, you can show right there in Daniel uh uh D. Akins33. Also, you can follow him on social media. This is Apostle Daniel Akins. He has a fantastic ministry, fantastic ministry. And let me announce once again, he will be with us in October. He's gonna be our keynote speaker for our gathering of intercessors conference at 1240 Highway 138, and you'll be blessed by his ministry in person. Listen, Apostle Akins is going to carry us out in prayer, and then after that, well, I want to tell you, I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Please remember, storming the gates is every first Monday. First Monday means the Monday after first Sunday of every month. I want you to tell a friend and tell the neighbor that we're storming the gates and showing God's people how to walk in victory. Apostle Akins, carry us out in prayer.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:52

Amen. Father, we love you and praise you. We thank you for storming the gates tonight. We thank you for Lord God, Bishop uh Eugene Teller. We pray, God, that you continue to bless his work, bless his hand, bless, oh God, his desire. And Father, we just pray your blessings upon this man of God and this great work that he's doing. Now, Lord, we thank you for all that we've heard tonight, all that was said tonight. We pray that somebody was blessed and strengthened and encouraged by the word of God. So, Father, we just give you all glory, all honor. Until next time, we give you praise and glory in Jesus' name. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

People of God, let's storm the gates and let's expand the kingdom. And we'll see you next month on the first Monday. God bless you. Amen.