The Johnjay Van Es Podcast

Is Modern Medicine Healing or Harming?

JohnJay Van Es Season 1 Episode 4

What if your body already knows how to heal if you just give it the right tools?

This week, we sit down with the Certified Health Nut, who’s spent 35 years exploring natural healing and transforming his own life—from 340 pounds to a vibrant wellness advocate.

We talk ancient wisdom, controversial biohacks (yes, including sun exposure in very unexpected places), fasting, seed oils, and why most modern illnesses might just come down to “clogged tubes.” It’s wild, eye-opening, and surprisingly practical.

No hype, no gimmicks! Just a fresh take on how to support your body’s natural ability to thrive!

Speaker 1:

Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today, because this podcast is a spinoff of our radio show. Okay, so we got Certified Health Net here and it's an honor to have you on our podcast.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for having me Grateful to be here.

Speaker 1:

My son, kemp, is my co-host. What's up, he's 21 years old and I have him on to help me out because he also is very much into health and wellness. Give you an example he plays basketball in college in Hawaii and last night I was watching TV. He came over he said goodnight, he was going to bed. He goes to bed pretty early. He's really focused on his sleep. And I was walking by and I saw his room. I saw the light was on in his room. It was a red light. So I thought I'd pop in and just say hey, goodnight. And I opened the door and he was reading. He had Norma Tech boots on and he had the red light on and the whole room was red. But he held the book up to cover the light that was coming in from the room that I was in. Like he wants no light, right?

Speaker 3:

artificial light. I'm good with red light especially when you swing my door open like that and then it's just like nothing to all kinds of right all kinds of discordant energies, so he's into that.

Speaker 1:

So I thought he'd be the perfect co-host to talk to the certified health nut.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think you know light is a pretty big understanding right now if you're looking at health, especially with the amount of non-native fluorescent flickering light, especially since we got rid of the incandescent bulbs and this affects our circadian rhythms and our hormones. So your son is extremely smart and tapped into it. I've known at least two children, young teenagers, that have either ended up in the psych ward or ended their high school career staying up late at night on the computer. You think it's innocuous. However, it can mess with your circadian rhythms and then that can also affect your mental health, anxiety, depression, you add to it.

Speaker 2:

Comparison is the thief of joy, and you've got these algorithms that are designed to get you hooked, and so it's pretty layered and it's good that your son is being mindful of it, because this is ultimately what I'm teaching my children, and you know children can be pretty resistant to any of your tutelage, and so my kids are starting to really really get it, and they're also seeing it out in the world where people are checked out of life ultimately no one's home but the discordant frequencies and the lights coming out of the machines are affecting the human beings.

Speaker 2:

I do believe Dr Jack Cruz ties it all the way back into the mob figured this out in Vegas because they wanted to empty their pockets of the money. So when you're on slot machines it's very hypnotic and you pry it with a little bit of alcohol and the money just flows Right. And so I do believe the CIA, hooked up with the mob, took that information, brought it out to Stanford, which is a think tank for Silicon Valley, right, and they own the frequencies, and the frequency coming out of the devices have to be at a certain level, and all of this affects our consciousness, because we are conscious beings and we are light beings, ultimately. And if you've got discordant light that's coming in there and they're blocking out the sun, and then you're putting on sunscreen and then you have seed oils in your body, then what you get is just sick automatons all doped up on the matrix and dude we went to dinner last night.

Speaker 1:

He makes all his food and he would only go to his mom. I don't blame him. His mom wanted to go to dinner somewhere, and he would only go to a place that did not have seed oils. Yeah, where would you pee the jungle?

Speaker 3:

okay, all right you found it on an app. Right, I did. I had a seed oil scout app yep, have you heard of that?

Speaker 2:

I have that one as well, do you? Yeah, this is a. This is a real deal right seed oils is one of the main culprits, but then you've got definitely gluten and uh but that's the only way we can get him out of house.

Speaker 1:

Glued at a restaurant, yeah, other than he makes his own food he's smart and his tissues look like it too.

Speaker 2:

Right, His tan, the texture of his hair, the spark in his eyes the color of his skin. Thank you, it makes a huge difference. It does, yeah, really smart. Where did you get hip to all this Watching me?

Speaker 3:

No, the same thing you were saying earlier about your kids not really listening to you ever. I felt like that was kind of the same way with me, with him forever.

Speaker 3:

Um, I actually got hurt my freshman year at college and so I had to get knee surgery, all the stuff, and it was just like I was laying in bed for hours at a time for weeks and I was like, okay, how do I get out of this? Like you reach a point where it's like I've been sitting in a room forever, like I can't take this anymore. I start looking up ways to heal faster. Then it just starts rolling and rolling, and now I'm here.

Speaker 1:

But also your dad got you cold plunges doing yoga sauna.

Speaker 3:

Yes, he was very easy access Eating right.

Speaker 1:

I was always trying to get you to.

Speaker 3:

Like it was very easy once I recognized that I wanted to heal faster, that I just had to listen to everything he'd been teaching me forever, rather than just throwing it off to the side.

Speaker 2:

I love that. And how did you get hip to it?

Speaker 1:

I've been. Well, honestly, I was about 340 pounds and my dad died of a massive heart attack in 2007, and I had him and his two little brothers and I was too fat to play with my kids they would crawl on me. So I thought I got to change my life in 2007. So I started doing hot yoga. I started eating right. I dropped about 100, some pounds, but then I wasn't lifting weights and I had that. You know, that skinny fat. I got pretty skinny but there was no muscle tone. So then I started lifting weights, did a little testosterone therapy. My testosterone was low, um, doing bickram yoga, lifting weights, and then my weights fluctuated, but I like where I'm at now. I got, I got about a 10 pound window.

Speaker 1:

Um, I'm trying to do that 80 20 rule where you know I I'll have some cake or some chocolate, but I, I really want to completely eliminate that from my body. You know I do like. Last night he was like I, we wanted dessert and the family went and got frozen yoga yogurt, but him and I, he he had uh, what did you have? You had the Greek yogurt yogurt with some berries in it, you know. And then we watch a lot of your videos. You know we watch a lot of your stuff, which is interesting because the glasses you don't have the glasses on today.

Speaker 2:

I do have them, and so it really just depends on the podcast. I've had a career in front of the camera for 35 years and, uh, I didn't necessarily know your audience and it really just depends. You're very handsome, thank you, but yeah, I do like to wear them. I'll probably wear them for the second podcast today. What's a good brand of those.

Speaker 2:

I like Raw Optics because Matt Maruca was friends. Very intelligent young man came out of college, realized that this was detrimental the frequencies coming out of these devices and out of the fluorescent lights as well and so he teamed up with Dr Jack Cruz back in the day. So the brand is Ra R-A. Ra like the sun, god Ra.

Speaker 1:

Optics.

Speaker 2:

Oh Ra, okay, okay, okay and it's got the eye of Horus as well as their insignia.

Speaker 1:

I will buy a pair today, because I've been looking and I don't know which brand to trust. Plus, I've got a large head, so I've got to find one that makes it custom to my head. Maybe you can pull some strings for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I have at least one of their designs out in the car. What's your?

Speaker 1:

background Like what makes you the professional certified health nut? Is there a medical background?

Speaker 2:

there a medical background? Is it just experience? Well, I wanted to be a doctor when I was younger. Uh and so, and the etymology of doctor is teacher, right and so, uh, and the doctors in china, I do believe, um, they, they make more money when their patients get healed, right, and the medical industry industry right now is really just trying to hook us. So I had my own digestive issues about 35 years ago.

Speaker 2:

I was in Milan. I was a Versace model. I was looking to do my best in that career, look and feel my best in front of the camera, and I was bloating. And the agents are pretty ruthless in that industry. They're like, oh honey, you're fat. You know, you go out for pizza and beer with the homies out in Milan and you're having a good time. And it was one of the greatest parts of the industry was traveling. The worst part of the industry there was a ditty party going on underneath and you're not invited, right type of thing, and you're not invited to advance because you're not going to that thing as well. So it was kind of like this unwritten sexual kind of element that I didn't really know about. But I could try and figure it out, right, and I don't play those types of games, sexual.

Speaker 2:

I went down to the uh, the English bookstore and bought a book on nutrition and that was 35 years ago and I started reading that you know fruits and vegetables and eating whole foods, and I'm sitting in Italy and they've got farmer's markets and I'd never been to a farmer's market before, and so, uh, and then I started eating that type of food, chucking it down my neck and I started getting results and the toilet bowl was looking great and I was feeling better. And I came home and I did my first 10-day juice cleanse and I was reading about herbs, dandelions, an excellent diuretic for the liver, and lo and behold, I think that's what really helped me, because in that industry I got into a very party rock star lifestyle After a while living in Miami Beach in the 90s Tokyo, miami, new York, paris I mean, I partied pretty hard and so I started learning about nutrition and fasting back then and juicing. I've been juicing for 35 years. And then I sobered up from alcoholism because I got pretty partied out and I found Vipassana meditation. That really opened me up.

Speaker 2:

Ten-day courses of meditation in silence. So I did 11 of those courses in the span of six years, somebody introduced me to Maori healers from New Zealand and they're known as the bone crushers. So they'll read your body energetically and see where you're holding on to trauma and they'll step on your legs, your back, your skull, and I was in a instant sweat and a half second and and it really just blew my mind and I heard about them before I met them and so I was like, where do I sign up for this? And sure enough, when they came through town, they came through Los Angeles, and I heard about the miracles that they helped other people with fertility, with conceiving children and people that had real difficult times. And so I met them and my first experience was mind-blowing and I was hooked ever since and I've been studying with them for the last 25 years and I witnessed many miracles.

Speaker 2:

And then somebody turned me on to an herbal company in the amazon. By that time I had about 15 plus years of studying herbalism and taking plants into my body. And I took these plants into my body and, uh, it raised my frequency and vibration much higher. Are you a vegan? No, but I did have two year stint of it early on, so did I yeah, I read a book called fit for life.

Speaker 2:

I remember that book. The fruit. Yeah, and later on I caught up to harvey and marilyn diamond. I met marilyn diamond on facebook, so that would have been 2007. I read that book in 1991. No, 1990. I read that book.

Speaker 1:

89 or 90. It's a book.

Speaker 2:

We were just talking about a couple days ago, yeah, and I caught up with her and she said she almost killed herself with that diet, she ruined her hormones and she was in her seventies at that time. With his diet, with Harvey's diet, with the vegan diet, oh the vegan diet.

Speaker 2:

Okay, harvey and Marilyn Diamond wrote the book Fit for Free, fit for Life, and it was a vegan diatribe like most of them, very dogmatic, and it makes kind of sense like, oh, this is the way we're meant to eat. But the more I studied and the deeper I went the history of the spear and what we used to hunt and gather, and how the microbiome developed. And it takes 100,000 years to change the human genome, one-tenth of one percent. So the history of the spear shows us we were all hunting and gathering. And what were we hunting? Grass-fed ruminants, that's what we were hunting, whatever can move.

Speaker 2:

Now, especially when I wrote my book at 50, I got pretty thin. I got down into my fighting weight and I got pretty, you know, connected to my connective tissues. I was very thin, I was ripped, but I was also, uh, uh, very thin and I I could if I didn't eat. It was a problem and so, and since I wrote that book, I've gained 25 pounds and going into my sixties, I want more muscle and more weight. I don't, I don't want to.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I'm 59 this year. I'll be 60 at the end of the year.

Speaker 1:

And so are you fasting. Do you do an 18 hour fast, 20 hour fast, or do you just do you just have fruit till noon, Like what's your, what's your daily?

Speaker 2:

diet much uh, pre-digested nutrients, which is organic, fresh squeezed juice, or I work with a wheatgrass company as well. Uh, we have dehydrated wheatgrass, spirulina, those types of things. So I'll do herbs and superfoods, uh, until I eat, maybe starting at three. Your first official meal is at three or later sometimes, and so, and then I'll like have a ri ribeye or chicken soup or some kind of bone broth, something like that.

Speaker 1:

My doctor has me on an 18-hour fast. Okay, so I eat at 1. My last meal is around 7. Do you drink coffee?

Speaker 2:

Currently. Yeah, I'm having a cappuccino. That's my one last vice, Right.

Speaker 1:

But it's not bad for you, though, is it?

Speaker 2:

No, I mean it's not bad for you though, is it? No, I mean it's not terrible. I mean I like to stay off. I like to eat as clean as possible. When I'm at home and I make it, I'll have it with raw milk. But when I'm out you talked about that yesterday too, man when I'm out, you know I get whatever pasteurized dairy is at Whole Foods, so I'll get some organic stuff. Where do you get the raw milk? From Raw milk? I get it from the farmer Farmer Direct. You can get it from Nick Adante here in Arcadia, arcadia Meat Market. He sells it. There's a couple places that have it. Are you in Arcadia? I'm not in Arcadia, I'm in North Scottsdale. Oh, we're in Arcadia.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I need to check that out. Yeah go, I've never been to that market.

Speaker 2:

I know exactly where it is. Oh, he's got good food there. That guy has really good food.

Speaker 3:

Wow, we're going to have to stop there after this on the way back.

Speaker 1:

I know you were talking about the raw milk thing, because it's like to me, you process so much information and one is that, well, a cow, we're the only people, only animals, that drink another animal's milk, and it's like a cow is something that goes from 100 pounds to 2,000 pounds in a year. Humans shouldn't drink milk. And then I hear raw milk is really good for you.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know how to battle that argument in my head. Well, and everyone has to make that assessment for themselves what I tell my clients is whatever you can get down the neck and digest, go for that and then rotate everything. And so, because someone's idea may or may not work for you or me, right, but it works for them. So when it comes to raw milk or any food, you have to test it first. Like Turkey doesn't agree with my system. I'm also a high oxidizer. I don't eat a white meat chicken and since the eighties and bodybuildingbuilding you have chicken breast everywhere I eat. My body metabolizes dark meat chicken. It has high purines and has a lot of fat and my body likes that much better. I can metabolize it easier. White, uh chicken breast is like. It has like a caffeine reaction in me. It doesn't digest as well. What do you think of this trend of?

Speaker 1:

And if I'm starving.

Speaker 2:

I can assimilate anything right.

Speaker 1:

What do you think of this trend of like a hydranated water? And there's a couple of these anti-aging biohackers that were first promoting these water bottles that do the hydrogen gas and then now the pills you put in. Have you seen all that stuff?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my research shows that most of the cheaper end stuff is garbage. And then there's a very high end system from Japan. It's called the.

Speaker 1:

You mean a water system to put in your house.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, or like yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like a $2,500 machine and I have four machines at my house. I've got an RO system. Underneath my sink I have a vitalizer which structures water. I bought that 18 years ago. It's a blender-type device with magnets and it spins it into a vortex like a tornado. It aerates it and lowers the surface tension and it also adds mineral over a coral calcium charge, so, like in nature, it goes over rocks. And it's 18 years old and I've been using that with RO for at least 18 years. I bought it when my son was born and I like that machine. Then I have the Holy Hydrogen. It's the Lourdes Hydrofix and so the Japanese did tons of research because hydrogen is a very important molecule. In fact, I do believe it's the most studied molecule out there. There's thousands of peer-reviewed papers on it. But to get a stable hydrogen atom in water has been challenging. And some of the lower-end bottles from China and the tablets they don't work and some of the tablets could have heavy metals in them as well.

Speaker 3:

That's what I thought.

Speaker 2:

And so the guy who taught me about the holy hydrogen machine, greg the Hydrogen man, he had like 300 tumors and he healed himself from that. And these are anecdotes, but, like I said, go back to the peer review papers. And so the essence of hydrogen is it is a very small antioxidant that can get into the cells, and so we've got antioxidants in our food, but this is a very strategic antioxidant allowing the body to replicate its cells properly, and so, ultimately, that's what you want to do is get the body replicating it as best as possible, otherwise premature aging is going to set in.

Speaker 1:

What's your take on the stem cell craze? But I mean stem cells in other countries the ones you can't get here.

Speaker 2:

Well, I like to base everything on my own personal experience, because there's always data and reams of data and Huberman podcasts and it sounds great in theory. And let's face it, all the pesticides and the herbicides are all scientifically validated, allowed to be in our food, right, right. So who science is it? First of all? Second of all, the the best science project is in my own laboratory. Let me test that now. I haven't taken any umbilical cord, uh, stem cells from someone else, right? I haven't done that. Um, I have, you have, I have, have, I have.

Speaker 1:

And what was your experience? Um, I've done it about six times. I've gone down. I've gone down to Cancun, uh, to a clinic there called re health, uh, and it is fascinating, and I've taken friends with me. I've taken, um, I took my youngest son. My youngest son tore his ACL and and did the uh umbilical or did the IV drip about 250 million stem cells. And how's he doing? Playing basketball.

Speaker 3:

Completely normal.

Speaker 1:

No surgery so he healed completely. It's crazy. It's crazy. We're going in two weeks I'm taking him because he hurt his knee. He plays college basketball. We're going in two weeks. They're going to inject his knee and get an IV drip and I'm going to get an IV drip. I've seen some pretty. I know a guy that had ulcer colitis and pancreatitis. He got an iv drip. Took him down to cancun, got an iv drip in an hour. The dude was healed. He'd been in the hospital taking meds since he was 16 years old, going to the hospital two weeks a year, like dying almost, and after one iv drip of stem cells, gone, cured, like that. It's been three years and he hasn't had a relapse or anything.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I know that's a. That's a good anecdote, like that's the type of stuff.

Speaker 1:

I've had him on the podcast before the the, and he lives in irvine. The scientist, his name is rafael gonzalez. He lives in irvine and he's got the clinic in cancun and they just opened one in cabo what's the price point? On it. It varies on what you're trying to do, but it's it be hefty, but also I think it's worth it.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think it's also coming down in price as well, whether it's Panama or Costa Rica.

Speaker 1:

Panama was one of the first ones, but it's so difficult to get there. You know, Cancun from here is a four-hour flight. Cabo is a two-hour flight.

Speaker 2:

And I think Tijuana's got some stuff. Right now they're working with the UFC. Yeah, now they're working with the UFC.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but the UFC. So Dana goes to this clinic, cancun yeah, they're about to move. There's some stuff with that clinic. I don't know much about that clinic, but yeah, but anyway, I mean I just think that's fascinating. Also, I find you completely fascinating, by the way.

Speaker 2:

So going through your social media, because I do want to talk about other stem cell treatments, like PRP and that kind of stuff, or like your own stem cells, so your own stem cells I mean. Ultimately, greens regenerate, greens activate stem cells, so you want a high-quality green going into your body. You also want grass-fed ruminants. That's why you want grass-fed stuff, right? Because the animals metabolize the grasses. Basically, you're looking at sequestered sunlight, right? The sun is the source of all life on planet Earth. So, however you get that, whether you sit out in the sun I do that every day my business partner, barbaro, who you'll meet, he's out there two hours a day. He's an Italian guy and he gets as much nude sun as he can and that's what really feeds his body. The guy can deadlift and squat and lunge like heavy, heavy weight.

Speaker 1:

But when you say two hours of sun, is it Arizona sun?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wow, during the summer too. Wow, I'll do 20 minutes, or I'll do 20 minutes on my electric bike to the gym in the heat of the summer, but I need to kind of be moving. I can't just lay out. He is like really addicted to the sun and it shows up in his tissues Like he's tan. He's extremely muscly. He's got great musculature. You know he works out, but he's healthy being in the sun for two hours.

Speaker 2:

He can pump serious weight. He has titanium cookware. He stays at my house the last four years quite a bit here in Sedona and I've known him for 15 years. He's got titanium cookware. He shops only at Farmer's Market sources. The best chucks some chickens and onions and parsnips in there and but you said nude sun.

Speaker 1:

Is that because I also saw you know you're one of the first people I saw talk about you know sunning your butthole yeah, we're sunning your testicles right, sunning all your nether regions.

Speaker 2:

I mean you need that. Girls need it as well. I mean it actually helps. You know you've heard of yeast infections. You know anything can get a little funky down there and the sunlight on that it's only going to help it.

Speaker 1:

But when you sun your butt, like I have in my backyard. We've got enough of what are those plants called that are really high. No, the other one, not bougainvilleas. I want to say these they're not called lavender, what's?

Speaker 2:

their name.

Speaker 1:

No, we have these huge Trees. I love it. We have these huge bushes I forget what they're called, but anyway. So I kind of felt like I had a compound and so I saw your video I'm going to say about a year ago, maybe you were talking about it so I wanted to try it, but I was so nervous my neighbors were going to see inside, I didn't know the. So I was like you know, I was like in the backyard on the basketball court, you know, trying to do this whole deal, and then I'm like how long do you do?

Speaker 2:

it for. And then I thought, if the sun hits me here, won't it just the good vibes go around, or no sure? So the the word around the campfire on the butthole sunning. And my friend who studied kundalini yoga, rah of earth you can find him online as well. He started this trend in 2018.

Speaker 2:

We were doing 2019, we were doing a men's retreat at my business partner's house and he's got 10 teepees out there some ranch up in Kern County, california. And he was like in the next 30 seconds, these men will go out and get as much sun as you would if you're out in the sun for eight hours with all your clothes on, and so, and then he, he, he, he shines it on the men going towards the teepees. It was just, it was just film wise, it just was perfect. And then he said, in the next 30 seconds, he got the camera on himself and then he showed the guys and they all had their, their legs in the air right next to the teepees, and you know, with nudity and stuff, you can't show nudity. So they were kind of in the shade. You know. There was nothing shown. Anyways, johnny Knoxville shared it and it went viral. This went super viral.

Speaker 2:

It went all the way down to Australia on their morning shows and then it went back up to America and then it went to TMZ and it went to Rolling Stone and New York Post, and because I was friends with him and I shared some of those posts, I also got implicated Me, metaphysical Megan and Ra of Earth, and so basically, you've got all three layers of your epidermis that coagulate into your anal orifice and so basically, if you're getting 30 seconds to like say, let's say, five minutes or something like that, and you're getting the sunlight in there, it's a way to charge up the body and this comes from ancient yogic teachings, I believe. All that stuff works for me. So so it's just a tool in the toolbox. But my business partner, he lays out, and he just lays out nude and uh, like I said, it definitely shows up in his tissues.

Speaker 2:

Um, I think I also know from my own experience it helps me build and maintain my musculature the more tan that I get, and so it it's very healing, it's very. You know, if you have a hard workout, you want to make sure you get in the sun. You know hot Epsom salt baths. These things are excellent for recovery and it's not like it's something new or weird.

Speaker 1:

It's the sun. Well, what about? How do you handle sun damage, like on your face? Do you have a skincare routine?

Speaker 2:

So, what I learned from the Italians because I was a model for many years and in the early 90s is when all this hype around sunscreen came out and you got to wear sunscreen and my agent moved to Miami Gianni Versace. My agent from Miami helped Gianni Versace. My agent from Miami helped Gianni Versace buy that property on Ocean Drive. And then my agents from Milan would come and either vacation and one of my agents actually got a job at the agency I was with, and so Tino Beretta was his name and I was like he would literally ride his bike to the beach and they would lay out in the sun for nine hours. And I asked him I go, what about all this? Everybody's worried about sunscreen. He's like we're Italian, we eat the Mediterranean diet, the olive oil, and we don't worry about any of that stuff.

Speaker 2:

So the research that I showed. So, first of all, if you're wearing sunglasses, it blocks the natural frequencies of light that help you produce a hormone that protects yourself against the sun. So that's step number one. So I got rid of my sunglasses and I wore the best designer sunglasses for years and I threw those things away as soon as I found that out. The other thing is your antioxidants. So I don't wear sunglasses that block out the UV rays and I eat high-quality, antioxidant-rich food, and I also have good fats in my body Is that blueberries?

Speaker 1:

What are antioxidant-rich foods?

Speaker 2:

Anything that has carotenoids in it, so beta-carotene, proanthocyanidins, anything that's purple or orange or yellow. Those are naturally going to protect you against the sun, and so I've been juicing for 35 years. So any kind of carrots, ginger, turmeric. You know I eat acai over the years as well, and I work with a lot of herbs. Dragon's blood, which is the highest concentrated source of antioxidants, and just a lot of plants have certain terpenes and alkaloids that naturally protect you against the environment.

Speaker 2:

And we used to be like hunters and gatherers, and if we were starving, we'd figure out okay, what can I eat? Right, if there was nothing, if we missed the hunt, okay, can we collect some acorns? Can we? You know what is edible, what kind of tuber roots are in the ground, what's edible? And so, and when we were more in tune with nature it's like an animal, animals aren't like listening to hours of Hooberman to figure out what's edible. They're natural, intuitive, and we used to be that way as well, and so that's how we communicated with the plants and we know what plants work for what that's like.

Speaker 2:

The indians in the amazon they know that ayahuasca mixed with chacruna makes the ayahuasca brew. That is what they call the phone home, right, the spiritual connection, and so, um, and this sounds all a little fruity, because we're all doped up on scientism right now, and if it doesn't have reams of data and scientifically proven, then we don't want to listen to it. Right? But why is that? Because that's the rockefellers created the flexner report and they ixnade all the natural medicine that we'd used for millennia before that. And now we have to defer and bow down to anything that's state mandated and university created. And who creates the curriculum for the universities? The Rockefellers again. So Rockefeller Medicine is an excellent documentary if you can still find it on youtube james corbett, the journalist, um um, he lives in japan, but he's amazing and and I don't even know if he still exists if he got, he might have got wiped off the internet do you have a lot of people coming after you?

Speaker 2:

you have a lot of uh whatever um, for some reason, I you know I'm I'm able to slip below the radar to a certain degree. I I got pretty censored in 2020. This election, I just set up a meditation marathon and I didn't do as much commentary and we got through it right. The last election it was like I couldn't say anything at all and good friends of mine, jp Sears he got censored. Some of these guys were monetized on YouTube. I'd never been monetized on YouTube so I wasn't worried about that but I did get censored on Instagram and Facebook. I mean, I constantly got censored, flagged. Some of my stuff still gets flagged. I'm not the favorite guy of the drug company algorithms because I'm a natural medicine guy, so I can get so far, but I have to be good at entertainment really to get to the next level.

Speaker 1:

But it also works. I mean, you're 59. You look fantastic, you know. So the I mean it works. Everything you practice, what you preach, correct and not only that.

Speaker 2:

but I have colleagues all around the world and I've got an army of wellness warriors that are working with me that are also doing that, and if it's possible for us, then it's possible for everyone. Have you heard of the oneness movement? No, but sounds good. We're all one anyways. What?

Speaker 1:

about like red light beds. We talked about red light early. Do you believe in the red light beds? And that's technology?

Speaker 2:

Well, red light has application. That's why I think it's important to go out during sunrise and sunset. Red light has huge application. It's kind of weird that they're spraying the chem trails, especially during sunset, and they block. They try and block that out. But red light is a certain frequency and it has total application. If you get a red light device, it can help you with recovery, especially if you're an athlete, and red light has application. Far infrared saunas get deeper into the cells. You like sauna.

Speaker 1:

Yes, of course I love sauna. We sauna before we got here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I did the sauna today too, and cold plunge At the gym. I didn't do a cold plunge today. We cold plunge every day, sweet, every day. Yeah, you got a cold plunge at your house or at the gym.

Speaker 1:

At both. But at my house I do it, I do the morning show. So I cold plunge at 3 am, oh yeah, and then I'll cold plunge at noon. I cold plunge before I came here. It'd give me a a lot Woo Electricity. Wait, I saw this one video you were talking about, because I also like deep breathing and I saw this video and I didn't watch the whole thing because I wanted to ask you about it. You were doing short breaths really fast. Breath of fire, that's what, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Can you tell me a little bit More of the? Those are more of breathing out, breath of fire, because you're autonomically going to breathe in, right, right, so pumping the belly button into the heart. This is, you know, just a yogi's figured this out for a minute, or like what's the?

Speaker 2:

time frame uh, you can do it as long as you can maintain it, um, and if you do it, I do it pretty fast, so I would have to slow it down if I was going to maintain it for longer periods of time. Uh, I've talked to people that do the white lightning tantric and, um, it's the kundalini festival every spring or solstice I think summer solstice they go to new mexico and you like, hold one hand in the air and you stare the other person in, in, in, in in the eyeball and maybe even do one nostril for an hour and you go through your shit, man, like, whatever it is, man, you're just going to breathe through it. So, yeah, the yogis figured out some interesting stuff. Hicks and Gracie figured it out as well, and it was exemplified in that movie called Choke.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you're a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy, but Not all the way. I'm very enamored with Gracie, jiu-jitsu and what they've brought to the table, and I follow his son, krohn, gracie, who I consider a friend of mine as well, and they do some very powerful breathing techniques and I don't think they studied yoga, but they figured that out.

Speaker 1:

What's your take on? Do you have any natural remedies for like? I don't even know how to say it right.

Speaker 2:

Arteriosclerosis.

Speaker 1:

Arteriosclerosis In the heart, like calcium in your heart and stuff.

Speaker 2:

So the way I look at it is that we are a series of tubes. Right, you've got veins, ventricles, even the bone marrow in your bones, cataracts. These are all clogged tubes Diverticulitis, colon cancer. So we are a series of tubes. You're totally tubular dude, right, right. And so most of our tubes, most of our issues we have, are clogged tubes arteriosclerosis, diverticulitis, cataracts. How do you unclog? Fasting? Fasting is the best way and fasting was built into our society through hunting and gathering.

Speaker 1:

So fast and you think you'll be able to clean the tubes in the heart it goes through.

Speaker 2:

We go through a process called autophagy, where the body scavenges its own dead cells and whatever else is in the way. It also goes through a process called ketosis, and so that's fat burning and scavenging, and so the body will just eat itself. And there's other various processes scavenging, and so the body will just eat itself. And there's other various processes. The chinese, you know they would do bloodletting, acupuncture, massage. You know reflexology beat the shit out of your feet, beat the shit out of wherever there's stagnation.

Speaker 1:

Reflexology makes so much sense to me.

Speaker 2:

Right, I mean all the nerve endings in the bottom of your feet so my understanding is that the body automatically heals itself if we can just get out of its own way and open up the channels.

Speaker 2:

And so, whether it's the reflexology and the feet, I've also practiced this one technique called Pita, where they slap you in your meridians and it brings all the blood to the corpuscles and any kind of stagnation has to go through there and that also releases the stem cells. We were talking about stem cells earlier and I practiced the ancient art of Shabambu, which is urine therapy, and that is also stem cells. The research behind that I think it's on the NIH website, and my friends Dr Edward Group and Jonathan Otto own a, a website called UrineTherapycom, and there's about 104 stem cells in your morning urine. If you let that sit and ferment in a mason jar for three weeks, it has hundreds of millions of stem cells. And those things are free, right, you can go down to Cancun and I'm sure they work right, they have application. You've gotten good results from that and also you're also shooting someone else's.

Speaker 1:

So your first urine in a jar. Save it for three weeks. Do you continue to urinate in the same jar?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fill it, yeah, and you can pour off the top and then you drink it. Or what do you do with it? You can drink it and I've drank it before. What is urine therapy Topically? Oh, you put the age stuff on topically. I've been drinking my own urine for just maybe an ounce or so in the morning. First thing in the morning it's, it's uh, it's more of a biofeedback loop, but the urine has antigens, antibodies, cell salts, amino acids and uh. And then, if you age it, it has stem cells it has.

Speaker 1:

Isn't that the waste of the body, like your body's getting rid of stuff it's about, I think.

Speaker 2:

I heard it was about like 0.3% toxins, but they come in the form of metabolites and so it's not pure waste. That comes out mostly in your feces, but also your lungs is the largest organ of detoxification. So the off-gassing of your lungs and the thing you're doing at the cellular level the two things that you're doing at the cellular level is you're taking in nutrition and that same nutrition assists the body cellularly in getting out the waste. So ones and zeros, so the same food that you're taking in has the ability to also detoxify the body. It's fascinating.

Speaker 1:

What about IV drips? Do you do stuff like that, or do you get all your vitamins naturally from everywhere else?

Speaker 2:

I do as much as I can. Naturally, I live in the modern world. So one of my friends she came from Chernobyl and she came through a recommendation of me. I met her up in Sedona and she healed herself and some of her family members because Chernobyl was a wasteland with all that radiation and she had thyroid issues and all sorts of stuff and she used the NAD drips and I had mold exposure from 2010 to 2013. And it affected me neurologically. It affected me quite a bit, especially when it comes to chronic fatigue. I was exhausted and so I was willing and open to trying anything. And when I moved down here, somebody had an IV drip center and I figured I'd try it, and so I didn't see that the NAD really moved the needle forward that much I mean.

Speaker 2:

Basically, that's why I call myself the certified health nut. I've scoured the planet for the best healing methodologies and modalities. Now I'm not afraid of drugs, pharmaceutical drugs. I just know that synthetics have, uh, a short life and can create more imbalances than certainly curative. Right, and it usually treats symptomology, um, and nad is supposed to activate your own body's ability to regenerate itself. Um, so I did. It didn't move the needle. That much.

Speaker 1:

How long do you do for?

Speaker 2:

I only did one, one drip. Well, I did, uh, a week's worth. I did like four hours, four days in a row.

Speaker 1:

Okay, which is done nad for a while and I do. I was doing the drip, I was getting like a thousand milligrams and it. You know it's terrible. When you, I would try I would get it in 30 minutes. Yeah, well, that it was. It was I didn't want to wait four hours and then now I do an injection once a week and it feels a little queasy. But I just you know, yeah, are you getting the results? I don't know, because I'm afraid I don't know what I'd be like if I wasn't doing this stuff.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I've done. I do all these things and I feel like I can operate. I mean, for a guy I don't get a lot of sleep for my because of my job.

Speaker 2:

Well, I was just going to say so I body's fucking sleep I know, I know I got the aura ring, I got the whoop.

Speaker 1:

I mean, do you monitor your sleep?

Speaker 2:

So here's my thing on testing blood tests, genetic tests, it pretty much they may have application, but why do you need that?

Speaker 2:

When you have the mirror and the toilet bowl, you know what you look and feel like, and so, and if you're not optimizing your sleep, if you're not optimizing your nutrition, you're not optimizing your movement and you're not optimizing your water I have nine pillars of health in my book, and so you have all these natural components If you're not getting grounded every day, if you're not getting optimal sunlight every day, if you're not optimizing your breathing mechanics, if you're not optimizing your posture right, we have so many fulcrum points because I teach people how to do things without synthetic hormones, without testosterone replacement therapy. Hopefully I get them before they get it administered, because once you subjugate your exogenous, your endogenous hormones with exogenous hormones, then it's hard to go back. And the same thing can be said for women with Hashimoto's and thyroid issues. There are no isolated hormones. People want testosterone. What's your fucking sleep? And so, excuse me, I don't know if you can swear on this one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can swear.

Speaker 2:

And so what is your sleep hygiene? What does your circadian rhythms look like? What does your blue light use look like? What does your nutrition look like? What does your poop look like? These are all basic, fundamental principles. So no matter what drugs or intravenous synthetics that you're using, it really doesn't matter if you don't have these fundamentals down. It doesn't matter what your blood looks like if you don't have these fundamentals down. It doesn't matter what your blood looks like if you're not, if you don't have these fundamentals down. Because once you start taking natural substances into your body, they're going to naturally get out the heavy metals, the greens, the binders, the herbs. They're naturally going to chelate and bind these toxins and take them out of the body. But if you're not doing that and you're eating seed oils and you're not getting to sleep properly, then all the fancy stuff doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

There's no need for the fancy stuff until we've covered our basics. How many hours of sleep do you get? I'm a nine-hour guy and I do pretty much eight hours minimum.

Speaker 1:

Are you a guy like I'm going to bed at eight or nine, no matter what?

Speaker 2:

I would love to be that guy and I do get better sleep. Then I'm also a modern day human. I'm just like everybody else. I have the same problems, if not worse. I like to say I'm more fucked up than most people you know, and that's why I have all these practices, because nothing's worse than someone who's an asshole and a, you know, a fucking tyrannical Tyrannosaurus Rex, right. And so for me to be the most balanced human of service, then I utilize these practices that call my nervous system down, regulate my nervous system, so I can be more at peace for my children, for my business, my business partners be available for my clients and the people that I serve. And so that's why I do what I do. When you say your clients, because otherwise I was a drunken mess, right, right, right. When you say your clients.

Speaker 1:

You help people through fitness, through life, through health. Oh, all aspects of it, you sell supplements Are, oh, all aspects of it. You sell supplements. Are there certified Herthnut supplements?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I work with an organic superfood company. One of my business partners owns that company. He's been doing it for 35 years. What's the website? The website is ishoppuriumcom and my gift card code is Certified Health Nut. I've been with him for 11 years. It's a vertically integrated, family-owned company. We are the source, the manufacturer and the distributor. We own farmland in utah on volcanic ash beds, so super high quality organic, bioavailable materials and we juice it and dehydrate it. On our farms we have heirloom seeds of wheatgrass. I'll give you some after the show to taste as well.

Speaker 2:

I've been in business with him for 11 years. I just focus on the sales and marketing. People are already coming to me for solutions. What I tell my health practitioners or other people that I work with? If you're not monetizing, if you're not locking up your clients options for organic nutrition, then nine times out of 10, they're going to be marketed garbage by the guy somebody else, because most of the supplements on the market are absolute garbage fillers, binders, carcinogens, artificial coloring, artificial flavoring. Do you sell protein powders? We have a variety of everything. We we have pea protein. Everything's all natural, organic creatine we don't have creatine. Creatine's an isolate, so we have um um but do you take creatine?

Speaker 2:

you know, I was taking creatine and I took it in my late twenties and I took it recently, when I started gaining weight after I wrote my book. And so, um, I took it for two years straight and, uh, my kidneys were really affecting me and uh, they were, they were burning, they were very sore, and so I did a kidney cleanse recently, um, and it went away completely. You drink a lot of water and then, uh, I drink adequate amount of high quality structured water, yes and so, because water is not really the quantity, it's the quality, and you want to make sure it's absorbing into your body, and so it's structured, whether you structure it with salt or you structure it with superfoods.

Speaker 1:

Do you structure it with salt electrolytes or do you put in a bath of salt?

Speaker 2:

I can, and I have at least three structuring devices at my house, three or four Fascinating man.

Speaker 1:

I've asked you like a billion questions this time. I'm sorry, kemp, do you have anything you want to ask? I've been going on. I'm sorry, I just felt like it was just you and me here. I was just in the zone with you. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3:

It's all good. Sorry, kemp. Well, this is way earlier. I was just like fascinated you do the juice cleanse and I've watched him and my mom do juice.

Speaker 2:

What is your go-to juice, if there's your favorite one, taste-wise or medicinal-wise, both Okay. So taste-wise I think I'm really Well and everything changes too. So right now I'm loving the carrot orange it's about two-thirds orange. I like the vitamin C, especially after a workout, and the organic juice bar that's near my house has that. I'll shoot four ounces of ginger down the neck first and that kind of burns, so I kind of chase it with the carrot orange. So for taste I'll do that.

Speaker 2:

If I want to flush my liver or I'm a little constipated, I will get a very strong beet celery parsley, a little bit of green apple Green apple doesn't spike the glycemic index and then I'll hit that with strong ginger too. So strong ginger, strong beets, that will flush bile secretion through the liver. Do you recommend a juicer? You know I do. The thing is is is they're quite labor intensive and I juiced hardcore for 25 years almost. I had a. I had every jack la lane juice man, I had that too, but I would go through them. I would literally wear the parts out they're just a mess well, they're just a cheaper machine, right.

Speaker 2:

And then I bought a champion and I had it for 20 years. So the champion made by the plastic cat company, it's just a workhorse, it's a. It's a one and a half horsepower motor. It's heavy. I had the one I got was given to me and I had it re-manufactured for like $75 and it still lasted 20 years.

Speaker 2:

And then what happened was, as I was shopping at the farmer's market I was living in Santa Monica, that was part of my thing that I did. Even when my kids were small, I had, I had a real expensive stroller that I could take, one handed off the curb and stuff filled with vegetables, and uh, then they started going to school and I kind of had to transport them and the schedule kind of changed and so, and plus, juicing is a 45-minute journey, right, cleaning, cleaning up juicing. So now I pay someone to juice it for me at the juice bar, as long as I can find a local organic juice bar, otherwise I work with the superfoods that I have two scoops and water and I'm out the door. I'll make you some in a little while. Yeah, I'd love that.

Speaker 1:

It tastes amazing and so you get the highest quality organic juice without juicing I did what I did 16 days of juicing, nothing but juice for 16 days and I'll never forget I think it was day 14 I lifted more weight than I've ever lifted in my entire life. Bench press, yeah, I was like, well, this is crazy.

Speaker 2:

But at some point.

Speaker 1:

I felt like, and I had so much energy but I was missing food.

Speaker 2:

I felt like something was up, but it was 16 days yeah, I've done 17 days on juice in 2007 and I ended up I ended up losing too much muscle at the end of the day. So one part of the program that I work, I have predigested vegan amino acids so super clean, made out of non-soy based legumes. So they're derived from food, but they are synthesized. They have the perfect amino acid formulation so they build muscle whether you're working out or not. They're designed for renal patients wasting away in hospital beds, so they're not going to get you yoked, right, but you're not going to lose any lean muscle mass you have so much information in your brain.

Speaker 1:

I just want to like you know what I mean. It's crazy, man. Are you right now sitting here with us in any kind of pain? Do you have any aches or pain in your body anywhere?

Speaker 2:

nope, that's amazing not, not right now. I mean, I went to the gym today.

Speaker 1:

I worked out any kinks already yeah, I mean, I got like a little hip pain or something like that. That I'm working on. But anyway, any other questions, kevin one more.

Speaker 3:

Um, so you travel a lot. That's just like something I gained from conversations, like before and researching you. What do you do like to help with travel? Because, like for us, like we play basketball, we travel all the time from, especially because it's in hawaii. We go six hours and so it's like all this traveling. What do you do to help with travel?

Speaker 2:

so everything that I talk about and I put this in my book as well the nine pillars of health, um, traveling is a weird animal today. Right, I traveled before TSA and I love travel, and so it's very stressful, and the TSA agents are designed to make it even more stressful. I think somehow there's some kind of social engineering coming out of whoever is training those people. And you know, trump fired the TSA chief, the second he got in because I think of the hassle they gave Tulsi Gabbard recently, and so I'm not the only one. Ted Nugent is a friend of mine and he's a rock star from the 70s and he no longer travels commercially either.

Speaker 2:

Um and so and I'm almost at that position, so I'll just speak I just want to say that, because traveling is extremely stressful, you can take um medical grade water. So you got the hipaa act. Water is medical grade. You need it, so you can claim that. So you can bring glass bottle water through. I think there's a water company out there that got it approved. Bottom line is if you know the laws, you can bring water in with you, so making sure that you've got pure water, definitely hydrating yourself.

Speaker 2:

I like to take a hot Epsom salt bath before, and I know if you're playing sports, sometimes the dorms or whatever doesn't always have. My son plays hockey so, and I know how beat up he got last year as well, because they work them seven days a week and then they got travel on top of it. So first of all, there's it's major stress, so don't mess around with your nutrition. Always upgrade your nutrition as much as you can, getting the best for you. Nutrition as much as you can, getting the best for you. Getting the best sleep is super important.

Speaker 2:

Hot Epsom salt baths are going to lower stress levels because most people are magnesium deficient and Epsom salts are loaded with magnesium. You know, if you're magnesium deficient and most of us are, if you take an Epsom salt bath with six pounds of Epsom salts and you sleep like a baby. Take an Epsom salt bath with six pounds of Epsom salts and you sleep like a baby. So that can help you. Also, I don't recommend going through the backscatters, the radiation devices inside the airports, and so again back to TSA and TSA pre-check. And even though I got pre-checked, they still want to check me and so. But I don't go through the back scatters because that's going to wear you out as well how do you avoid that?

Speaker 2:

don't they make you go through it. You, you get, you get an opt-out. You have to opt out, and this is where the psychological conditioning and the social engineering they make you feel like a criminal. Right if you do that. But it's your, it's your right and so, and they're designed to do that right. It's their job to pat you down. But now they're patting you down, especially in the last year or since COVID. They go really rough and I've got hair on my body and they start ripping my hair out. So I've had to start yelling at them and telling them not to abuse me. And it's not cool. And they think it's cool and it's people that are hired at the lower rung of skill level, and so it's a big social engineering clusterfuck. How do you deal with?

Speaker 1:

jet lag and all that.

Speaker 2:

So jet lag? I think if it's big jet lag you can do with fasting, because jet lag has a lot to do with eating when you're supposed to be eating, pooping when you're supposed to be eating and eating when you're supposed to be pooping, so your metabolism is turned upside down. So if you can turn on a fast and maybe if you need help clearing out the colon, you can do the salt water. Flush two tablespoons of high quality sea salt first thing in the morning in warm water. About a quart of water will flush your whole intestinal tract out. Now I don't know if you can do that if you got a game or something like that. There's also some herbal intestinal formulas that will help with intestinal motility to start evacuating your bowels as well. Dr Schultz, one of my mentors, intestinal formula number one is excellent for that. But again you got to time it right, so you're not all suited up. My son played hockey, so it's like you know. You got to get all that equipment off to go take a shit, you know it's not gonna.

Speaker 2:

It's not gonna work, but if you have a day off, you can time that and so, and then again, the predigested amino acids that I work with are excellent to make sure that you're not staving off any muscle and the the the organic nutrients that I have I think everybody should be on the nutrients that I have, because they're very applicable and we want organic nutrients and micronutrients going into our body. You're going to have to source the best macronutrients wherever you are, whether you're in this town, and you're going to have to source the best macronutrients wherever you are. Whether you're in this town and you're going out to dinner with your dad, or whether you're, you know, playing basketball in Hawaii or whatever it is. You're going to need nutrients, and so it's important to pay attention to your micronutrients.

Speaker 2:

As well as your macronutrients, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, terpenes, alkaloids these are the types of things you can get straight from our farms straight to your family, so there's no excuse for people not to eat organic food. Right now. We can deliver it straight to you. I help people save time and money at the grocery store. Plus we get it off your plate, so it's not a stress. Where am I going to eat? What am I going to get Boom? Just get these nutrients down your neck and you'll be fine and you can start there.

Speaker 1:

What's the website again?

Speaker 2:

It's ishoppuriumcom and the discount code is certifiedhealthnut. You can go to my website, certifiedhealthnutcom and it should be up there. You can find me on Instagram and write me a DM.

Speaker 1:

Support at certifiedhealthnutcom which is emailed from my team. Are you handling all that or do?

Speaker 2:

you have a, my team helps me out with everything. I mean I'll help anyone and take an order for anyone or text them if I'm in front of them, but otherwise I just connect them to my team because I don't want to just sell products to people. My team will help you satisfy your answers, because I want dedicated, healthy customers. I don't want to just make money off of people. That's not what I'm here to do. My mission is to raise human consciousness and change all systems. My vision is clean air, water, soil and equitable systems for all mankind in my lifetime. And so no one's free until we're all free.

Speaker 2:

And so we've got the debt slave system and we've got our materials being mined in Africa by little children and so and our oil being extricated from third world countries like Afghanistan, syria. Those are pipelines. Then you've got Libya, number nine producer of oil, venezuela. We've seen what globalism has done to that country. We've got Ecuador and Peru, the number five and six producers of oil worldwide, and the destruction of the rainforest subsequently for that oil exploration. And then you've got Iraq, iran, saudi Arabia, and we occupy basically those lands. And then you got the Sudan and all the stuff in half in Africa.

Speaker 2:

So I'm a big picture guy. My mentors told me you can't save the world, troy. And I'm like, yeah, well, watch. I have a responsibility as a human being and I've had visions and I believe that I've been gifted. As you know, the creator, you know, has gifted me and I have a responsibility as a man, and a lot of these ideas came from me when I was in the Amazon working, witnessing the mountains of sawdust and witnessing the rainforest being cut down for industry. And I came out of the jungle. I read a book called Confessions of an Economic Hitman to really understand the way of the world and it's just. It's time to change if we are to survive.

Speaker 1:

Man, let's end it there. Dude, that was good, that was great. Do you travel with all the juices? Because I saw you pull out a cooler.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let me bring this out now. Yeah, might as well.

Speaker 1:

Mixologist.

Speaker 2:

So I don't always travel with this. My business partner, david Sandoval, was left the legacy of Ann Wigmore. She's the mother of wheatgrass, so these, this wheatgrass, comes from the Egyptian tombs. They had seeds of heirloom wheatgrass, which is called kamut, and so we've been growing them on volcanic ash beds for the last 30 years. And it has spirulina in it, which is astronaut food, activated barley, which is food of the gladiators, so very dense nutrition. It's also pre-digested. This comes in a plastic container. This is our old packaging. The company is now plastic free. We have all of our packages, even in our herbal capsules. They come in hemp, tree sap and bamboo. I didn't bring the packaging with us, but we're a plastic-free company. There's not too many companies out there that are plastic-free.

Speaker 1:

Would this be considered a multivitamin?

Speaker 2:

It's loaded with vitamins, minerals and enzymes, so you could consider it that. And it's bioavailable, so it's not like an isolated nutrient. It's not. There's no fillers, there's no binders, so you're going to get it's basically loaded with beta carotene and minerals. So basically, what you want is the minerals in the water, the food or anything that you're drinking, which gives you the electricity. And then the next thing that you're getting is bio-photons, which is bioenergetics from the sun.

Speaker 1:

Will you drink this whole jar? Is this a day? Is this a setting? Is this?

Speaker 2:

You can have this and some of my amino acids and that's a complete meal replacement.

Speaker 1:

Wow, so it's a meal replacement.

Speaker 2:

But this right now, is just nutrients, which is just energy, ultimately. So that's carrot juice, activated barley, spirulina, wheatgrass, organic apple, organic berry.

Speaker 3:

I said don't drink it. We've got to drink it at the same time. Cheers to your health. Cheers, Apple organic berry.

Speaker 1:

You said don't drink it. We've got to drink it at the same time. I know I'm smelling it. Cheers, cheers to your health.

Speaker 2:

Cheers, l'chaim, l'chaim, here you go.

Speaker 3:

This tastes pretty good, yeah, it does.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we made it taste good for the commercial market because, let's face it, wheatgrass tastes like shit for most people.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Or cardboard, and so about 10 years ago.

Speaker 1:

It tastes really good. It does it's like vanilla yeah.

Speaker 2:

He put organic. Here you can have some Tyler.

Speaker 1:

He put organic apple, organic berry and monk fruit in there. What do you think of you know? You said you like acai. Do you like the pitaya bowls?

Speaker 2:

and all that, or acai bowls, I do Anywhere where I can. I can get, you know, real good nutrients. I'm happy, uh, the only thing I I did a little deep dive on on, uh, sugar recently and they say, you know, if you really want to knock out sugar, then go for about 50 grams. And I was having an acai smoothie at least once a day and those things are like a hundred. And I was having an acai smoothie at least once a day and those things are like 100. And I was like, oh, but the purple definitely is really good for you.

Speaker 1:

And so the antioxidants. What about?

Speaker 2:

the ube? Is it called ube? The purple potatoes? Oh, I've eaten them before. My body doesn't like potatoes and everyone's different, right. So you've got to rotate everything. Just because it's good for one guy doesn't mean it's good for you. So you rotate everything and then whatever you can get down the neck and digest is good. Potatoes are nightshades and nightshades don't agree with me that much, no but there's the one, the Blue Zones.

Speaker 1:

You see that there was a show on Netflix about the blue zones, these people living to be 100. Yeah, and one of the things they all had in common, whether they're in Japan or Italy or something, is they all had these things called. I think it was called ube.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Ube, yeah, purple, they were purple potatoes.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And in Hawaii, when I went to go visit him, they got ube in everything, everywhere. They put them in smoothies, they put it in pancakes, they put it everywhere.

Speaker 3:

I've never seen that anywhere else, except we weren't a blue zone. I don't think, oh, I know. Well, I don't know, maybe soon.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think you can get nutrients from almost anything. You know, and, again, you know what works for you. That's all that really matters. You got to call it at the end of the day. You were talking about earlier about the milk. So the igf1, the growth factor one, that's what makes a cow go from um, from was it 100 pounds to 800 pounds in one year, right? Well, that's going to help a young human being as well, especially when you're looking at mandible building, right, which is directly related to testosterone production. The child has as much testosterone as an adult does, and so, if it's properly developed and so getting these nutrients into the body, weston A Price has an excellent book where he studied indigenous cultures, and raw milk has its application, and so if it digests and if it works for you.

Speaker 2:

It's not going to work for everyone, but it is a tool. I make sure we get three gallons a week for my two children, which are both athletes, me and my business partner. We have some pea protein and a gut formula called Epigenius Family, and I usually do three or four scoops in that and some raw milk after the gym.

Speaker 1:

This is surprisingly really good.

Speaker 2:

I know it's basically drinking your vegetables, right?

Speaker 1:

Each one of these is like six servings of fruits and vegetables, but if you're by yourself, if I made that in the morning, do I drink that all before I go to work or do I drink it throughout the day?

Speaker 2:

No. I like to drink it when it's fresh and the enzymes are rich, right. So we dehydrate everything at air temperatures on the farms, so when you add water to it, it reconstitutes. It's all living. This is like living juice.

Speaker 1:

What do you think about magnesium pills or magnesium? I take magnesium packets to help me sleep.

Speaker 2:

Spray magnesium is going to be better. I got a company out of Canada. Ian Clark had leukemia when he was 46, and he's like 20 years later, no longer has any of that stuff. He scoured the planet. No, it's for your skin. Spray it on the skin. It's transdermal. Oh, wow, yeah. Activate activation products Plus greens, so greens. Energy from the sun converted through photosynthesis creates the chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is the exact same match to your hemoglobin. Hemoglobin and chlorophyll is the exact match, but there's an electron transfer, iron in the hemoglobin and magnesium in the chlorophyll, so it's magnesium-rich. Anything that's green is magnesium-rich.

Speaker 1:

On that note, brother, thank you for coming in. I know you're a real busy man and it was really cool to have you. It was really a pleasure and thanks for letting my son interview you too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you, yeah, yeah, super grateful for the opportunity.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so welcome to our podcast. This is a little bit different today, because this podcast is a spinoff of our radio show.

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