The Farmer's Greatest Asset Podcast
The Farmer's Greatest Asset podcast is dedicated to supporting and empowering farmers by recognizing that their greatest assets are the knowledge, experience, mind and health. Hosted by husband-and-wife duo Jesse and Dr. Leah, this podcast combines their unique backgrounds to provide valuable insights. Together, they explore topics that help farmers thrive both personally and professionally. Tune in for a blend of practical advice, real conversations, while having a little fun along the way as they talk about all thing's agriculture and family.
The Farmer's Greatest Asset Podcast
Beyond the Acres: Learning to Listen in Tough Times
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Steve Boender returns to continue our heartfelt conversation about finding meaning through faith in farming and life's challenges. He shares wisdom about weathering economic cycles in agriculture, offering practical strategies for staying resilient during difficult times.
• Economic downturns happen in roughly 50-year cycles, making current pressures part of a predictable pattern
• Morning prayer and helping others are powerful tools for maintaining perspective during hardships
• Look for the small daily blessings - they're everywhere when you're watching for them
• Marketing strategy: "hit singles instead of home runs" by selling incrementally when prices exceed production costs
• Avoid the dangerous cycle of "greed, hope, and despair" by selling on the upward climb
• Focus on faithfulness rather than success - it's a meaningful distinction that transforms everything
• Creating space for the next generation to lead while providing support builds stronger families and communities
• Equipping children with social skills and responsibility prepares them for adulthood and independence
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The Farmer's Greatest Asset podcast. We believe the farm's greatest asset is the farmer their knowledge, experience, mind and health. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm Jesse.
Speaker 2And I'm Dr Leah.
Speaker 1Last week we left off in the middle of our conversation with Steve Boonder and we are going to come back again with Steve for some good conversation.
Speaker 2I'll hand it off to you, leah. Tell us and the people that are listening, you found your faith and that really helped you overcome your struggles. Can you give kind of a step-by-step in how you grew that, because we may have people who are listening who are really struggling right now? Like, commodity prices aren't fantastic, you know, I think there will be farm, family farms that go under this year. What advice do you have to them, like, what is one little thing that they can start doing to help them?
Speaker 3So I agree. I agree with you very much, leah, and before I answer that, I'll say you know, we talked about the eighties crisis. 50 years before that was the great depression. 50 years before that was the great depression. 50 years before that was the long depression.
Speaker 3When the railroads and the banks and stuff struggled, economy happens in 50 year cycles and if you think back, I'm not saying it's for sure, but we we're due. We're due for a downturn and sometimes, sometimes and and life isn't always blessed and rosy at our house We've had some when we're on our knees asking God for help, and there are times when you just have to take a day at a time and maybe sometimes even an day at a time and and maybe sometimes even an an hour at a time. The one thing I've never let go of is that god loves me and god has a purpose for me, and I wouldn't be here today had I not had and he not put me here for a reason and I have to remember part of that reason is to love and cherish Jan and I'm getting better at that, honestly and part of that— I bet she's glad for that.
Speaker 1I'm glad she's— it's only taken 50 years.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's right, no kidding.
Speaker 3And fortunately she's not here to disagree with me.
Finding Faith Through Life's Cycles
Speaker 3But I've also learned, and so there will be hardships, and some of those hardships could become in the form of losing heaven forbid our occupation, or what we love to do, or losing a spouse, or losing a child, and how will we react when the wheels fall off. You know, and and you guys have experienced that kind of the start of your book, you know, and your and your podcast is is, uh, you know, you want to help others out from where you were and through those things, you have to have a rock, you have to have something to hang on to, and so often in our culture today, people consider truth whatever they think it is, and people consider right in their own eyes. And if you don't have stability and you don't have a rock, that is, and loving the Lord isn't promised rosy life, it just promises. You know, you've seen these pictures and you know, it.
Speaker 3God takes us through them. He doesn't eliminate them, and so, as I get older, all these things we've talked about being a good listener, trying to serve others, trying to be a better person, the iron in the acres and the prominence and the status, those are all minor details. It just comes to the big picture in life.
Speaker 2Well, again, I think it goes back to the more you give, the more you have to receive as well. Because it is like Jesse said it's a circle. And it's really kind of the circle of life, and can you pinpoint one or two things, though, like if someone's really struggling out there, what do you turn to? Do you read the Bible? Do you journal? What are a couple of things like. If someone's really down in the mire, what would you recommend?
Speaker 3Some personal things. I pray every morning. I wouldn't say I've ever failed, but I pray every morning by myself and I actually pray out loud because it's kind of like a conversation with God, and so when things are really hurting, or or very often, get on my knees because it's telling God hey, I love you so and you love me way more than that, but I, I need, I need help. I need help today, and so I do read the Bible every day. Um, I try and read through the Bible. Um, sometimes I don't get done. Sometimes I read more than one chapter, sometimes I miss a couple of days.
Speaker 3Um, it's, I'm not, I'm not perfect at it, I'm not structured, structured that way. But the other thing, it's really hard. But when things are tough and tough and tough, what I have found is if you can find a way to help someone else, if you can find a way to serve others I don't just mean that as a cliche it takes your mind off yourself a little bit and then you get to that circle you're talking about. Then God, pretty soon it's not quite. I think it has something to do with you still have a purpose If you focus on yourself and there are people that are in really, really tough straits. I cannot imagine, without the grace of God, what it would be like to lose someone you love dearly, what it would be like to lose someone you love dearly. I cannot imagine losing an occupation and having to find one as a young individual. There will be tougher times ahead, but you lean on God in the tough times and you say thank you in the good times.
Speaker 2Well, and even to see how the thank yous in the tough times right the things to be thankful for in the hard times.
Morning Prayers and Helping Others
Speaker 3So many things I've seen work out, things that I didn't ever think would work out. God intended it for good, you know. And the other thing I see the older I get and that I look for it. There are so many, god. There are so many small prayers answered. Just little things. I was thinking about how do I keep this employee busy today? Because the young bucks were going to go help another helper tear a house roof off. And the gentleman said, steve, I brought two spades to tear shingles off today. And I'm like, thank you, lord. He was wanting to go help as a crew and a family and work and I was going to put him in a truck or put him in a skid loader. So I was going to. You know, he didn't want that, he wanted to be part of the crew and that's just that little nudge that god said, that's he'd like to help the others. That's a not a real good example, but no, I think it's a beautiful example because, you see, if you don't look for the little blessings, that's right.
Speaker 1You got to see him and that was your little blessing that day right, yeah and it turned out to be such a huge blessing yeah.
Speaker 2Well, it's just how. You have to be calm and silent enough to hear God whispering in your ear, so you have to be ready for it.
Speaker 3In tune. I call it.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3Life is not perfect. At our house, on a podcast, we can tell you about the good stuff Right?
Speaker 1No, I mean so, we have said it also. And when you come out on the other side of the struggles, it's so much more rewarding. It is.
Speaker 3I heard you and Leah talk about. Do you consider it a blessing that it happened? And at the time, oh my goodness, you wouldn't even have thought that. But now you look at it and you fight. You know what? God got my attention and I changed my priorities and I'm still walking. You know, some people lose a limb.
Speaker 1Yeah, I could have easily gotten down. But if you look for the blessings, that's right. There is a blessing in disguise and everything there is, and it's hard to see some days, yeah, but when you're looking for it they're there when you're open for it.
Speaker 3Anyway, and when you talk about the farmer's greatest asset and you focus on the farmer, that is so good, because that asset involves providing for your family and being productive and and and the ability to do that. But it also talks about being a neighbor and and and serving others. And it also talks about honor and glorifying your creator, the one who made you, like le Leah talks about when it all comes together. That's kind of heaven on earth a little bit okay is what I'm saying Absolutely. And so many people just miss the opportunity. They'll be in heaven, there's no doubt about it, but they miss the opportunities on earth that are just so wonderful.
Speaker 2Well, when you become truly aligned with your soul's purpose like the real reason that you are put here on this earth, and it's a refining thing right so like you grow. As you grow older, things become clearer. If you are in tune, I like that. If you're in tune um with the creator and and listening he's got that spotlight?
Speaker 1I know right, the sun is shining right on you like god's downloading to you.
Speaker 2Right now he's watching so, um, I think that that that downloading process and and the more you become in lined with your true purpose, your soul's purpose on being here in this earth, the closer you get to a heaven. Here.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 2But it has to be in service to others. Yes, it does I mean? You grow wealth right, which can be money or intelligence or what have you. You grow that, but it has to be in service to others.
Speaker 3I didn't want to mention it during people talking about people with tough times, because it's not appropriate to talk when people are in tough times but say you're in good times and say some people center life around their farm, some people center life around their kids, some people center life around themselves. I've always said there's a fine line between low self-esteem and being a legend in one's own mind. But when you center life around something, especially kids, and if you only center life around your kids, you create self-centered kids. That's where the others come in. That's where you have to work hard, you have to have responsibility, you have to have abilities.
The Fourth Goal and People Pleasing
Speaker 2But if you don't have that caring for others, things go out of whack, because that's our purpose here, and so um, can you tell us maybe one or two things in your time here on earth that you wish you would have done differently, and what you learned from them?
Speaker 3I wish I'd have been a good listener earlier in life. I think I I thought about my family and purpose and stuff. But I think I thought about my family and purpose and stuff. But I think I thought it was on my shoulders and I valued hard work. And I still do differently. I wish I'd have learned sooner the relationship thing and maybe not. Life isn't about getting in the house at nine o'clock on Saturday night, you know, and that you consider that a virtue because you've worked hard all week, you know. I wish I'd have learned that sooner. Life is a continual sanctifying process and my mind is always going to the things I'm so thankful for now. I wish I'd have probably given more time. When I was, I told you that I made four goals in the seventh grade and I attained three of them.
Speaker 2Well, I didn't tell you what the fourth goal was and I was kind of curious, but I thought you would share that if you wanted to.
Speaker 3The fourth goal was that, you know so I was to farm. That work, found Jan able to buy a farm. My fourth goal was that I would be an outstanding young farmer. By the time I was 35 years old and my uncle had been an outstanding young farmer and it was wow, you know, people looked up to him and I had that goal for the wrong reason. I wanted. I wanted that when I made goals in seventh grade. I wanted that so people would think I was successful. And God didn't put me here First of all to be successful. He put me here first of all to be faithful and that could be faithful to him, faithful to Jan and my kids. And so I think I I maybe had goals when I was younger of wanting obviously wanting to be well thought of, but maybe even wanting people to think I was successful, and that's so not what we're here for, and you do find success in a lot of different ways Right, yes, and so it took me a while.
Speaker 3Took me a while to learn that I used to always worry about what people think and uh, yeah, the older you get, not so much anymore, so I wish I had learned that sooner. I I was always trying to please others. Uh, I was a, I was a people pleaser and uh, what you find out is you can't please. Pretty soon, you're not who you actually are.
Speaker 1Right. You're not pleasing yourself or the Lord.
Speaker 3That's right.
Speaker 2And you're not. You know, through people pleasing, you're not being the real person like you said.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2That's wonderful. What are some of the things that you did that really worked well for you?
Speaker 3We got married March 7, 1975. We had an early spring that year. And here again I like to tell stories to prove a point.
Speaker 2We love your stories.
Speaker 3I walked into the local Mahaska Farm Service company and Howard was the general manager and asked if I could talk to Howard and I kind of looked down and I said I wonder if you have any custom work. I said I just got married and I have a tractor and I would like to do some custom in-hiders if maybe I had some to supplement my income. And he asked me to look at him and he looked at me and he said young man, never put yourself down. And so that turned into a wonderful friendship. We worked our tail off as far as custom work for him. That started the custom work business and so now it's boonder custom farming and we're into all array of it. It can be a service to people. We get paid for it, but it's a service to people and we get to do things like that.
Speaker 3That same gentleman in the 80s, when the bank didn't want to give me money, knew a person that knew a person that knew the president of a brand new little bank in Albia, iowa, and he said Steve, I made an appointment for you at another bank. He said I think you should go. He said the appointment is one o'clock. He said don't be underdressed and don't be late. And that was very, very good advice. My kids get so tired of me telling them that when they go to someplace you know it's like, don't be underdressed, don't be late.
Speaker 2I think we kind of have that rule, don't we, honey? Yeah?
Speaker 1Henry went to homecoming this year and we went and bought him a suit. There you go, never overdressed, never overdressed and so following nudges marketing.
Smart Marketing and Hitting Singles
Speaker 3Uh, I'm not saying it's all god, but it's just hitting singles rather than home runs on markets waiting for home runs. You know, we so many farmers nowadays when it comes to crop production and crop production is struggling right now, you know and when so many farmers either sell because they need the bin, they need the money, or it smells and so true, you just.
Speaker 3you just have to know what your cost of production is. And living through the 80s, I had to make a cash flow and $2 didn't work but $2.40 did. Well, the bank wasn't going to put down $2.40 unless you contracted it, and I could contract it for $2.40. So I said here I can live to see another year. That's called hitting singles rather than waiting for a home run, and we've been able to do that as a family.
Speaker 2That's great advice. That's great advice Because you know things are are getting tighter. They are with with production.
Speaker 3Yep.
Speaker 1Um with all of the prices and the inflation and the crop inputs and where do you cut and we're making big moves ourselves just on the row crop side and trying to cut back on some fertilizer and just keep our inputs in check. Exactly.
Speaker 2And, and I think you know, we we heard someone speak a couple of weeks ago, angie Setzer, and she kind of said the same thing Like you, you just you can't just wait for the home runs all the time, and so there, I think God's giving us some nudges with that as well. So it's a different, it's a different thought process of of how to market your grain, and I think those types of things are going to be very important, just to make sure that you are out there getting things marketed and not holding onto it because of of fear that you might miss the high, because you might certainly hit the low Right.
Speaker 3For sure.
Speaker 2And.
Speaker 3I'm not average either. A lot of farmers are very emphatic about making sure they sell every week because then they hit the average. I don't like being average Not that I don't hit a home run either, but but uh, I'm not really into that either. I I'd like to see where your cost of production is. If it's higher than that, start to sell. Uh, I have a deal. Don't sell on a down market. Now, that could if you're sliding down a mountain that gets ugly. But what that also says is you need to be selling on an up market, going up Right, because you also have the marketing scenario of greed, hope and despair. You need to sell on that upward climb of greed Because when it starts to crest and starts going down, then you're hope, hope, hope, and then you despair and you dump it. Yes, for sure. Crest and starts going down, then your hope, hope, hope, and then you despair and you dump it.
Speaker 2Yes, for sure I think if you're farming long enough, you see that that's right, that's right so you want to try and stay out of it yeah, for sure it's definitely, uh, a great, great advice to younger farmers. Thank you for that. So, in looking to your future, as you're, you know, still involved in the process of your farm, of of helping manage your farm, but starting to phase out a little bit like what, what is your next big goal? What are you looking for into the future for you and Jan?
Speaker 3That's a good question and I'm open for most anything. Jan has always said sometimes I envy the moms that have kids far enough away from home that you got to travel to see them. She said all my kids are so close I sometimes fix them breakfast for mornings. Are so close. I sometimes fix some breakfast for mornings, but uh not. But and she does wonderful jobs she'll bring out breakfast casseroles or breakfast pizza or egg sandwiches uh, not, I've learned, we need to go to coffee and breakfast six o'clock in the morning that's right, you betcha it, uh.
Speaker 3So jan would like to do more, maybe traveling. So we are scheduled for a late august, early september tour.
Speaker 1Uh, I'll see how I get along with that, steve I don't know if that's pushing the limits of the harvest starting, but I don't think you have a hard time making friends.
Speaker 2No, that's right, I think you're going to enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3So we're going to have a. It's even across the ocean somewhere. Wow, Ireland, Portugal, I don't know, oh wow. Anyhow, we're going some way.
Speaker 2Passport worthy?
Future Plans and Stepping Back
Speaker 3Yes, it is passport worthy, yes, and Jan's in charge of the social department, so, but yeah, and I am looking forward to that. We also. We enjoyed coming here today. We come here together. We're going to stop in Tum, iowa, pick up a pizza and enjoy each other's company on the way home. We're going to try and do more of that. Okay, up a pizza and enjoy each other's company on the way home. We're going to try and do more of that. Okay, jan still babysits on Mondays. She's down when the kids are in school. She's down to two little ones. There was a time when she had from 14 to 15 at a time on Mondays. Wow, she still cooks on Thursdays at Pellick Christian High School and she's done that for 22 or 23 years, and now she has two daughter-in-laws that cook there as well. So yesterday was being Thursday. Our daughter-in-law Cassie, our daughter-in-law Stacy and Jan worked together in the kitchen at high school and cooked, and she's planning on that again next year.
Speaker 3As far as goals, I remember in the 80s and 90s and even in the year 2000,. I did some short-term missions where you'd go with a church and be gone for two weeks and work, you know, and, and so we built a church in Bolivia and Brazil and and and New Zealand and and I'd been. I've been to old Mexico a couple of times working at orphanages and stuff. I've been to Malawi three or four times. That's South Eastern Africa and we have friends there. I would like I did a lot of those on my own cause. We had kids at home and stuff like that and maybe jan didn't enjoy, she would enjoy. Uh, she's not planning our trips, not more like relaxation and and touring trips, not work trips. You know I like going trips where I pour concrete and build something. But anyhow, I would love to go back to our friends in Southeast Africa and we helped a farm family out there and they're just thriving right now and God is blessing them. They love the Lord, and Jen and I would both like to go back there sometime.
Speaker 3So maybe a little more travel, a little less responsibility at home um, very seldom I don't work through the night anymore. There'll be less and less of that. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, you talked about that. I listened yesterday. I don't know when you taped, but anyhow, um, less responsibility on the farm, that doesn't mean less. More, more community service, although maybe more in the realm of a big event town has is Concert on the Square where we'll get a well-known name in. It's free and Jen and I get to be one of the three title sponsors for that. I absolutely love that kind of stuff, so it doesn't all have to be kids or grandkids. You help, I mean it helped the community, and stuff like that. We worked at the christian grade school in oscalusa. Saturday I'm, you know I brought grandkids along.
Speaker 3Do the heavy lifting so uh, I'm not saying I'm not capable of that, but not someone not to be be so much to be in charge anymore. Those are kind of the old days I like to see on the church board and stuff like that on school boards. And finally I told the church. I said you know, I got 30 and 40-year-old sons and a 41-year-old daughter that are very, very capable and a 41-year-old daughter that are very, very capable. And if I continue to do this until I, that's just like farming and having your thumb on farm.
Speaker 3People are poor, people are waiting for you to die so they can move on. I mean that's not right, but I but. So I said I'm going to not have my name up for church board anymore and all our kids are just totally involved. Now you know, and and and it. I like to stand back and see that. So in the future, maybe helping them help others, I, that's that's more. That looks more relevant to me now than uh, I want to finish strong that physically as well. Uh, I don't know how long God allowed me my health other than the day I was born. I've never been in a hospital and so talking to a Dr Leah and a prosthesis engineer.
Speaker 1So I wasn't an engineer, I was a representative for him.
Speaker 2Yeah, so but so I think that that is that is truly beautiful, you know, and that goes that that is that is truly beautiful, um, you know, and that goes that's a testament to your parenting. Um, you, you know, saying not me, my, my children need to have this experience because I see, as as a parent, you're really here to help guide um, not to to force them into a position but that's right you know if they can lead and you be there to help consult if they need it, right.
Parenting Through Adulthood
Speaker 2Um that, that is how we can continue to parent through adulthood absolutely without having a finger on the pulse. What? What have you? But just being there for support?
Speaker 3I heard talk of Henry and his club kids here and shoring and stuff, and that's all that, that and and then. But then you, you take that a step further and you go to the fair and there doesn't have to be a, there doesn't have to necessarily be a leadership or the leadership role there, but you want to make your children ready to be comfortable in a, in a, in a community setting. And, uh, as parents, you don't do that by doing everything for them or having even having their conversations. I see parents that have have conversation, they answer their kids' questions. I mean, uh, you know, you want your children to go to children, to go to the community and have a normal conversation with an adult and not have them be worried about that. You know.
Speaker 2Or just on their phone. Yeah, story to phone, true I would say that is kind of a struggle sometimes and I'm sure I think all farming parents go through that. You know if you are in agriculture and have chores, it is getting them to a place where they understand like this is our lifestyle and this is what you do yeah, why do we have to argue about it?
Speaker 3that's right there you go.
Speaker 2Yes, they so when, when you get to them to a place like henry is to a place, the chores are his sure his cattle they have, he has to take care of it, and when you aren't here, you have to find someone to do it like it is not mom and dad's responsibility. This, this is yours, right, but it takes years to get them there.
Speaker 3It does. That's part of the process.
Speaker 2It is. It is part of the process, but it is beautiful when it plays out that way, it's fun watching Henry grow.
Speaker 1At the moment he's 17. Yeah, he's starting to bloom.
Speaker 2He is blooming he really is that's fun Lucy too Sure.
Speaker 3He's starting to bloom, he is blooming.
Speaker 2He is, that's fun. Yep, lucy too, I mean Sure, oh yeah, it's fun watching them grow into more adult versions of themselves.
Speaker 3And I noticed that when Jan and I walked in. I mean they're all three very mature and you can just sense that and the fact that, but part of that is parenting, you know. I mean you guys are like like okay, I'd really like you to meet steven jan and you know, and as a kid you're not gonna say, oh, I can't wait to meet steven. Jan, don't know who.
Speaker 2The heck, they are but but when their parents, you know, and then they honor their parents, and that's how it works and and it's good for them to be in situations that I mean, because meeting people and you don't know what to say like that discomfort. You have to learn to overcome that discomfort to be a productive adult in a society.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2So being able to talk to a complete stranger is a skill. It is a skill that you need to learn and how better to learn it than with your parents?
Speaker 3That's right and with friends of theirs.
Speaker 1That's right For sure. Yeah, we really do appreciate you guys coming down. As always, it's good conversation. Yeah, sit here and talk with you guys. Yeah, so you also do. We'll mention it. You do a Sunday morning blog, I do.
Sunday Morning Blog and Community
Speaker 3Yes, that you put out on facebook the blog spot is stillwatersiowablogspotcom, but a lot of people just find it on either jan boonder's facebook page or boonder custom farming's facebook page. Yeah, for the last 15 years, um, we have a, we have a cabin that, uh and Cargill being so close brings out East coast folks and stuff to have a farm experience, and one time when some Coca-Cola folks were out there, like we would really like to stay in touch and and so Jen suggested that maybe I write a story every week and uh, and she's went. I really, I really enjoy it now and I've even had to say, uh, make sure that it's, it's serving a purpose. But for the last 15 years, I get up at three o'clock on Sunday morning and I write a and I write a story about our week and, uh, and obviously being having a large family. Um, it's about family, it's about farming, it's about, uh, it's about friends.
Speaker 3I'm I can't wait to plug your podcast and uh. But it's also about faith and in fact, I'm not sure who, I'm not sure who follows it, but just from stories I've heard, god is using it. Uh, and it's not. It's not about sermons, it's not about messages, it's not about uh doing the best job and farming and having the satellite, shut the sprayer off and on Although we talk about stuff like that but. But it's just about a visit on Sunday morning to let people know that they have a friend If they don't know Jesus yet. That maybe just a little example will rub off. And I'm not a pastor, I'm not, I'm just an ordinary person.
Speaker 1Steve Yep that's right.
Speaker 3But thanks, I ordinary person, steve. Yep, that's right, but thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, we call it Stillwaters Iowa because we have a cabin. We share a cabin with the community. The hospital boards and birthday parties and anniversaries and our out-of-town friends say, ah, you have a cabin on your own farmyard, what's the point? But uh, you know, they think about cabins off by Lake somewhere and stuff.
Speaker 3But we do have a large pond, uh, four acre pond, on our, on our property and and our cabin a lot like it looks a lot like yours here and uh, and so, uh, yeah, we share that. And then, um, people get to know us and if they want to stay in touch or follow us, they do that. So thanks for mentioning that.
Speaker 2Well, Steve, thank you so much, yes. Leah this has been wonderful talking with you and sharing your story with our community. Sure To build the our community.
Speaker 3Sure.
Speaker 2Um to build the agricultural community.
Speaker 3Absolutely.
Speaker 2To build faith and to just have great community.
Speaker 1So, thank you so much, appreciate it. If you like the podcast, if you like what you heard or want to hear more, uh, let us know. Subscribe, like, share what you heard, or want to hear more? Let us know.
Speaker 2Subscribe like share, or you can email any suggestions to farmer's greatest asset Not with the um at gmailcom, if you have any recommendations on what you'd like to hear, what you'd like to hear more of Um, and if you'd like to hear any more from Steve it's a good day to have a great day, you, betcha.
