The Found Nomads: Faith Over Fear, Hope During Trials

In this episode of Good News Gossip, we sit down with the inspiring family behind the viral TikTok page Found Nomads. Izaiah is one of only 200 children in the world living with Rory Syndrome, a rare condition that has shaped their family’s journey in powerful ways. Through every challenge, they continue to point others to Christ, sharing their faith, joy, and resilience with a growing online community.
Together, they’re raising awareness and funds so Izaiah can experience new adventures, while reminding us all of the hope found in Jesus. This heartfelt conversation is full of encouragement, faith, and a reminder that even in life’s hardest seasons, God’s glory shines through. 
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Today we're honored to sit down with the family. Behind the viral TikTok page found Nomads Will Yoni and their son Isaiah have been capturing hearts online with their joy, faith, and incredible story. Isaiah is one and only 200 children with a rare condition called war syndrome. And through all of this, his family has continued to point others to Christ and give him glory. And their mission now is to raise awareness and support for Isaiah so he can experience more adventures and live life to the fullest. We're excited to welcome Will and Yi to the podcast. Hey, thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks for having us. That was a great intro. Thanks. Is uh, is this your first podcast? We've done other podcasts but not as found nomads. I think when we were doing reselling online, we got interviews there. But for Found Nomad, this is our first podcast and we're super excited to be part of it, so thank you. And I love the name that is really creative. Originally we had, before we were saved, well we only had Lorenzo, we only had Lorenzo. We were thrifting nomads.'cause we've always been very nomadic. We've always been like out and about up and, and just like, yeah, we just get up and go. We were thrifting nomads and we would resell online. We had a YouTube channel and we were like doing all kinds of stuff, like side hustle stuff. And then God radically changed us. Like he just like showed up in such a major way. He transformed our lives like one day to the next. Yeah. It was very transformative. And then I just felt like, man, like we were just like, like we weren't thrifting anymore. Yeah. We were found identity, our identity nomads was still kind of, and then we're like, well, Jesus was always the ultimate nomad, right? Yeah. So then like we really became found nomads and just clicked. Yeah. I found a verse. I found a verse and it said to be found in him. Mm-hmm. And I was like, man, like, I was like, I feel like I'm so found in him. Yeah. We're so, and it just, like, that was just our new name. We've been rocking that for some time now. Mm-hmm. Prior to the whole TikTok thing and all that. And um, yeah, that's kind of where we got our, um. We're still nomadic, um, in the sense of, you know, we kind of, we we're not lost in the world. Um, but we do love to like, get out. We also know that God is moving in every way. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, when you least expect it, you might end up somewhere that you don't even know that you're gonna be. Yeah. So that's like, kind of like the nomadic life. Yeah. Yeah, that's a little background on that and I love it. And you guys are living that out too, like going on all these adventures and Yeah. Anyways, um, definitely. How is Isaiah today? What is he doing? He's doing really good right now. He's sleeping in, um, he had a long night yesterday. We started him off on a new medication, actually an upgraded dose of his current medication. He get big, which is great. And so, um, with that, with growth, you know, sometimes medications do have to be adjusted and so, um, we're going through the process of just getting him the correct dosage for some of his seizure medication. Yeah. He also had, um, Botox done a couple of days ago, which is. Something that's really interesting when we talk about, because we live in California and we live in la so a lot of people, when you think Botox, you think of high-end fashion and, and like, you know, glamor Yeah. Kind of a thing. But for him it really is like a medical necessity to kind of give him that relaxation in those little tense muscles he has. So yeah, he's adjusting with that too. So he's resting right now. He's chilling. He's with Big Brother too. Yeah. Yeah. Your other children, how does that all, you know, work out? Uh, how are they with Isaiah and his condition and everything y'all have to go through? He, they're good. Uh, Lorenzo for the longest time wanted a sibling and, um, it took us a while to, you know. Yeah. Well, when we had Lorenzo, we were not founded in our faith yet. No. And so we had a very hard relationship and it, made me and him just really not wanna have any yet. But as soon as we came to the Lord and, and everything was just so fast, then, you know, within a couple months of getting married, within a couple of months of getting married, we had Isaiah at first, you know, when, when he was born, we had no idea that he had this genetic condition. Yeah. Because none of the seizures manifested until a month after. So once we started to get, you know, when that something was kind of off a little bit, um, we started to go through the testing and all of that. That was when we. We're just adjusting our lives to not just having a new baby, but okay. What does this look like? What is God doing in these moments? And so, after a couple of months when we were in the hospital with him, because we really had no idea what was going on. They, it was just so rare they didn't have like an exact answer for us. Yeah. Quickly. It was an adjustment for our family since the get go. Yeah. You know, having Lorenzo in school and then being at the hospital for months at a time, having to really rely on our village. Yeah. It's a lot of adjustments for him. Yeah. But he didn't, he's never had a little brother, so he didn't really know what to expect. Yeah. Um, but his adjustment he is a trooper. He really is. Yeah. He's definitely shine. We also, we always wanted to keep in mind that, even through all of this. Our lives the way they were before. Were very, like we said, nomadic, we love to travel, we love to be outdoors. We love to do all of that. And so when we were given Isaiah to, you know, when, when the Lord gave us Isaiah, we took it upon ourselves to see that the Lord wanted him to be a part of that. Yeah. And so we wanted to make sure that Lorenzo didn't feel like now that he has a special needs brother, that means that he doesn't get to do all of those things when that's what our family was kind of all about. Yeah. We needed to find a way as parents to navigate that so that Isaiah could be a part of that.'cause I think that's ultimately what weighed on us, that that's what the Lord wanted. Yeah. He wanted Isaiah to be with the family who was gonna be outdoors because Isaiah thrives in the sunshine and he thrives with the wind in his little hair and. You know, he does so well out there and for us to be, you know, scared that something could happen that's not what God's plan was for us. Right. And so we really, we really took that to heart and tried to show Lorenzo and now baby girl. Yeah. That even with the special needs, you know, sibling, that doesn't mean that our life can't be still fun and enjoyable. Right. And still a unit. Right. That's, that's amazing. So you guys have. Three right now, and we're, we're have, we'll have another one in November. Another boy. Another boy. Yeah. I'll have, I'll have a boy in October. Oh, sweet. Oh, fun. Sweet. Congrats. My girl's wild. My boys were fun. My girl. She keeps me on my toes. Yeah. Whatever. We didn't, whatever we missed out on Isaiah, because his milestones are a lot different than in a, a normal child. Mm-hmm. Um, baby girl has like completely just tripled it, quadrupled it for us. So we're experiencing a lot with her. She's crazy. In a good way. Yeah. Yeah. My husband and I, we, we prayed for a girl, but God knew what we could handle because I, I have a, a cousin who basically, like, she was a miracle. My other cousins, her siblings were. 20 years older than her. Oh. Her mom you know, had her tubes tied. She wasn't supposed to have any more kids. Wow. Um, so she was definitely planted here by God. And anyways, I love children in general, and so when I was like 15 and she was born, I just took it upon myself to like be her second mom. Oh, for sure. For sure. That's amazing. So having that experience isn't enough for me. So this is gonna be your first, your first child? Oh, no. my whole testimony is basically centered around my first child. I was in high school and was, in youth group at the same time, but still not doing what, God would have had me do. So, I don't think. I know in my heart that my son is not a mistake. It was a grand plan for me to find the actual, like, forgiveness behind the heart of Christ. Yes. Uh, because my son getting pregnant with him was, in our little community, especially in the church was like for shame, you know? But luckily I was able to have really great mentors. I was at a bible church camp in Kentucky and I really hadn't told many people, I definitely hadn't told, my best friend was the preacher's daughter. And so she was the only one I had really told that go, went to our church. And, um, I was also facing the situation where my mom wanted me to have an abortion. Mm-hmm. So that's like what I was looking at coming back home and I was, you know, battling with that and, uh. So I, uh, tell my camp counselor who I just met, she has us fill out this piece of paper and the last question was, tell me something no one knows about you. And I was like, okay, the Lord really wants me get this out there. So when I wrote that, she actually took me aside without, you know, making a huge deal about it. We were in the chapel, just me, her, and a, a chaperone from our church. And they taught me that it is not the end of my life. Like this isn't. This isn't going to ruin my life. This is a way for me to accept the forgiveness that God has to offer. And so, amen. That's my full testimony. Love. So that's my first. I love that. That's great. It's beautiful. Yeah. Well, congratulations on the new edition. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. That's awesome. Yeah. So, but 10 years later we, we had our second and he's, he's gonna be two October, and then our third will be born in October also. So, wow, so you have, so three will be, so he's 10 or he's he'll be, he's 12 now. Be 13 in February. Wow. Wow. That's awesome. What a blessing. Yeah. What a blessing. It's amazing because that, I, I feel like that experience because I was brought to the Lord at that age, he's just always known me as a follower of Christ, and so Wow. He was baptized, which. He went to a church camp this past summer and he wants to re baptize himself because he felt like he didn't understand it at eight years old. So it's just amazing that God, what God has done and like this podcast is definitely centered around the things that people could gossip about in your life that you've done. Mm-hmm. But using it for good. So good news, gossip is the whole That is awesome. I love that. Praise God. That is amazing. Yep. I love that. And I'm also glad you guys are able to sit down with me today. Honestly. It we love stories where, you know, we, we sat down with a mom recently who her child was not, she was told like had a 1% chance of surviving. She had wound up. Going through it's not as rare as Isaiah's condition, but it is I can't remember the name of it now, but basically she had that and then also had, had RSV within a month and it was just a lot at once. Mm-hmm. But praise God that baby is one years old and still thriving. Mm. So, yeah, we love, we love to be able to share stories like where kids are, they're working against the odds and That's awesome. Where are you guys located at? Where? In c Arkansas. Oh, okay. Cool. Yeah. Did we, we went to Arkansas, right? We went to, we passed through, yeah, we, we, we passed through, we did a crazy cross country road trip when she was pregnant with Isaiah. That was our first crazy, that was our first, yeah, that was like during like the pandemic a little bit. So a lot of national parks were like, there wasn't really a lot of people in'em. Um, so we did a, we did a pretty, we went from California all the way to Florida, all the way to Florida, but down through the bottom of Texas.'cause we, it was still National Park based. Yeah. So we hit a big bend, ended up in Florida, visited family for quite some time, worked our way up to Chicago. Mm-hmm. And then back down and then made our way back home. Yeah. And that was a lot of fun. She was pregnant with Isaiah, so we were just like, at that point you were like at 20 weeks they told me they couldn't see any feet on him and they weren't sure whether he would have feet or he would be severely clubfoot. Yeah. So my biggest question was, is there anything that I can do to. Change that during the rest of my pregnancy, since I still had 20 more weeks to go. And doctor said no. At this point, you know, if he, whatever he has, it's, we will. We'll see it once he's born. Yeah, we're gonna love him either way. So we're gonna love him. We like, stop, let's just do this trip because once baby's born, obviously we're gonna have a little bit on our plate. And you know, the pandemic was just so difficult for kids, you know, that were, Lorenzo I think was in what Kindergarten? And so Yeah, her first grade. Yeah. And it was so hard to have him like doing Zoom teaching and all of that. So I said, let's just, let's just homeschool him for this year. Take him across and we'll, we'll learn as we go and God's beautiful earth and show him, you know what, there's so much more to learning than just, you know, what you can get in the classroom. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, it was amazing. It was a really great trip that time. I think we've just kind of been waiting for that same kind of feeling again. And that's why we took this one. Huh? Yeah. This one was a lot more work, but it was a lot of work with two more kids. Yeah. One being special needs and being pregnant again. Yeah. Um, but it was shorter, but we had a trailer, so there was, there was a lot of differences in. It was a great time. It was fun. And she's pregnant still. And I'm pregnant again. Hey. I relate to that a lot. We, we have, it seems like every time we've needed to like, move, I've been pregnant or like remodel. We've been, when we first, uh, found out we were pregnant with our second we needed to find a house'cause we were living in a camper. Mm-hmm. And we were like, this ain't gonna work. Yeah. But now it's ironic because now I'm like, we're going to be back in living in a camper. A little bit bigger one. But we're we, so we had to buy a house. To have our second child and now we're selling our house to have our third child God works in some crazy ways. Sometimes you don't even, you know, we see this much of the story of what he's working out. Yeah, exactly. But it'll all be for him at the rate we're going California. I told her it's, we're better off just buying like a really nice camper RV camper and just, you know, making that our address. Yeah. Finding that way. Oh yes. I, you know, and that's honestly, if my husband was down for it, that's how I would wanna be. I just wanna, I love to travel too. Mm-hmm. I would just love to, you know, not be anywhere permanently. Just go wherever. Yeah. God wills us to go. So that's, I'm just. Inspired by what y'all are doing too. It's awesome. Thanks. Thanks, we appreciate that. So one thing I did wanna ask is, with the traveling and Isaiah's condition, what kind of medical plan do you guys have? If you guys need to take, is it just kind of, there's like a hospital, you know, for sure? Or how does that work? There isn't a hospital. We know for sure. We've had a, we've had actually had one situation where we were in Utah at Zion National Park and he ended up getting really sick. We were close enough. Um. You know, within seven hours that they were able to airlift him back to our home hospital. So we've always had that and like we have emergency backup plans as far as his like equipment goes. Like, we know what we can take and we can help sustain him. We're trained in that way. But as far as like planning hospital wise, we would just go to the nearest hospital if needed to like, yeah. I think for the most part, I think, um, we've kind of worked it out to know the signs prior to him getting sick. Yeah. So that's a big key is preventative for us. If we see that, we're noticing that, you know what he looks like he's kinda getting sick, we'll automatically jump onto our sick routine. Yeah. And just, you know, hit it hard to try and get out whatever bug he has and if, if it consists, you know, if it persists and he does seem like he's gonna have to go to the hospital. Um, we also have a medication because he is technically palliative care, which is like end of life. We have our own on-call doctor and our own on-call nurse that we can always reach out to. So whenever we're about to take a big trip, we always make sure that we have like. The medications and the antibiotics that they would give him at a hospital with us. Yeah. So we can always start him on something that they would've started him at the hospital for, or we just don't go. Yeah. Or we, we've canceled a lot. Next thing too is sometimes we will just say, you know what he's not really like at his full a hundred percent. Let's maybe wait and see if we can push this trip a little bit further. We also take into account seasons. Like we know there isn't any con, we don't travel at all during six season. So once we start getting into those cooler months holiday season, we buckle down, we buckle down, we're at home. Springtime is great. We push it a little bit with the spring because we're getting out of six season Yeah. Fall right now. This is gonna be a great time for him. He does really well. The weather's cooling down. Yeah. We're having a late summer here in California. We're still hitting like the high eighties, but, um, once we start getting into the cooler temperatures, that's great for him. Um, I don't know if you saw on our TikTok we were demoing what's called the huckleberry, and it's a really cool cart that we can take him out. But where we live, we can have so many different areas to travel to that are local mountains. We're centrally located, we're probably within two hours of mountains. Valleys the beach. We have so many things accessible to us just here locally. So those big trips are the ones that we kind of prep for. Sometimes we'll do something local. Yeah. Or sometimes you know, it'll be something that I'm doing with Isaiah and you're doing with Lorenzo. Yeah. We might split it up so that each family can kind of get that out of their system or get that feeling without having the stress of it has to be this specific way. We always let the Lord lead it. Whatever it is that we're trying to plan, we pray on it. We make sure that. He makes it very clear to us, you know, because you know when God says yes, it's yes. And when he says no, it's no. Yeah. And if you don't hear any word, that means that you're weight. It means weight. Yeah. So we definitely, like this last trip that we took was like, totally, like everything was just paved. Like, I felt like alignment for God was just such, he was so in control of the whole thing. And yeah, Isaiah's like, sometimes we, we will go camping, we'll come back and then Isaiah will get a little cold or he'll have like some sort of skin reaction. Like, he's been so good. And we've been back for now, a couple of weeks now. Mm-hmm. And even during the trip, there was only one day where he was teething. Mm-hmm. Um, and his teething is just, it's more intense for him. Yeah. But, um, other than that, he's, you know, this, um, but I think bringing it back to your question about, you know. Hospitals and all of that stuff. We do as much research as we can. Yeah. But honestly, there's no way of knowing like where we'll be if something like that does happen. So currently we are keeping it within the United States just because we know that's our health coverage, we'll cover it and we know that he'll be able to get flown into our hospital. Our hospital is great. We go to children's Hospital of Orange County. I fought to have them. They're amazing. They and the lead doctor there told us like, if there's any situation, he's like, Isaiah's our boy. Like, you make sure that hospital calls chalk and tells them that he's over there and I will send a plane. If they can't, you know, I will make sure that he comes back to us. And we've tested it. Yeah. Which we did. And in Utah, they were like, oh, you can either go to Vegas or you can go to Salt Lake City. We're like, no, we're going home. I was like, uh, can you just call Chalk just to see what they say? And chalk was like, oh no, you're coming back home. Don't worry about it. Yeah. So that's, I love children's. We, we have a children's in Arkansas and, um, not to make it about me at all, but it is, uh, I only know like a half a percent of what you guys go through because my. Son went into anaphylactic shock a few weeks ago and he's, you know, not even two yet. So it was like he couldn't communicate what was really happening. Yeah. And it would, that was, that was scary. So I can only imagine just not being able to, I'm not sure what Isaiah's communication level looks like, but from your videos it just seems like it's, you guys just have to have the Holy Spirit and intuition and just knowing like what's going on. But yeah, children's was top-notch, so treated him so well. Yeah. I'm so glad that you have one close by.'cause it does make a world of a difference. The care team. Yeah. The people working there, especially if they're specifically for children. You know, us as adults, we handle things a certain way, but kids, it's, everything is so brand new. So I could just imagine I'm, I'm very glad that the Lord had that for you. Yeah. Yeah. So. I wanna ask what, okay. I know because I've watched a lot of your videos, what Warry syndrome looks like and all the different things, but, um, if you wanna tell our audience, basically in a nutshell, if you can even do that, because it sounds very intricate and like there's a lot that goes with it. But yeah, if you wanna kind of explain what that even means. Um, yeah. So, uh, warrior Syndrome is a gene mutation and, uh, what it is, is we're both carriers of this mutation. And Isaiah happened to get both dominance from us. We didn't both, both recessives we didn't know we were carriers at all. It's so it's not something they actually test for. Um, out of like 200,000 genes that we have, we just so happen to have the same gene. Mm-hmm. And um, yeah, he happened to get both recessives and what that is, is, the condition, the main, I think the main thing of the condition is epilepsy. Um, and, and they say it's medicine, resilient epilepsy, but right now it's, he's pretty much controlled. Mm-hmm. Um, and, uh, it's low muscle tone. It's, uh, developmental, global developmental delay, um, cortical vision impairment. Uh, there's a long list of stuff. A lot of'em will contribute to other. So like, because he's very low muscle tone, he doesn't, he can't really do a lot of exercising and all of that. And so that causes him to have very fragile bones. And because he is very tense with, you know, some of his other muscles that causes pooling on his back, which then cause scoliosis. And so in the Clubfoot two it pulls little feet in because it's just a lot of muscle tension there. Yeah. And as of right now, there's no cure for it. Um, there's only 200 children worldwide. The panel's still so new, I think within the last seven years or so, but it is a spectrum also. Mm-hmm. So there are a lot of kids who have worry. And there's another also adaptation that's called Scar 12, which is also a similar mutation, but it's just. Different. It's just different. So there's two different variants that you could end up getting, which is worry or Scar 12. Scar 12 typically shows, kids being a little bit more active, you know, a little more responsive versus the worry syndrome like Isaiah has where they're a little bit more total care. He's like our, our really now really big baby. Yeah, he's big baby. So yeah, there's no, there's no cure um, to it. As of right now, there is a gene therapy they're developing that's been so hard only because of the amount of cases that there is worldwide funding for that is really hard. Yeah. But what they're doing right now is they're actually looking for medications that out have already been created so they can see if that helps with, um, the symptoms and stuff like that with war syndrome. Like a side effect. Yeah. Like a bi camp side effect kind of a thing. That's kind of it in the nutshell. Isaiah is on the, on the more severe side of war syndrome. But I do feel like a lot of it, they, they say life expect is about four years, but we've come to, we've know a lot of the families now in the, in the Facebook group and a lot of it's due to, to I think location and care. Mm-hmm. That's provided for the children because there is some that are older. Yeah. I think there was a parent in the Facebook group,'cause that's pretty much our community is. The Facebook group for it. One of the parents said that their son just turned 22. Yeah. Which we thought was absolutely amazing. Yeah. And it has to think a lot to do with just how much you're able to put in for these children. I think it's the resources they need so much and here, you know, it takes a lot of work. I'm sure any medically complex family watching this knows, navigating that medical field is difficult sometimes. Very difficult time consuming, to say the least. Yeah. Um, you need a lot of patients and you also need a lot of determination to just kind of push past sometimes these barriers that come up. Chalk is in our hospital, uh, ours, in our home hospital, it would've been CHLA, but there's just so many kids there. Getting appointments there was so difficult. They'd be months out, months. You know, at a time I wouldn't be able to get the care that I needed for him. So I really fought hard to get him another children's hospital with less cases that would be able to accommodate him. Yeah, advocating, I think advocating, advocating generally is a big thing too for their life. And we live, we live where there are a lot of resources and so families maybe that live in more rural towns where there isn't a lot of accessibility and they have to travel far to get to that hospital. It might be more difficult for those. And so it's such a range between, you know, what these kids need, what they're able to get from us. It's just it's a very big spectrum. And so I think that's, that's it in a nutshell. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you guys have, what I would pray other families have going through this is just the strength of the Lord behind them. Yeah. Um, it's. When I was going through my situation with, Eli, he had gone completely unconscious and I was like freaking out. Yeah. And, um, just, just crying out to the Lord. And that's literally when you're in a situation like that, which it's kind of, it puts a lot of perspective on everything else in life because in situations like that, you're, you are relying on the Lord, but you should rely on the Lord, like all the time in all things. And so it was a wake up call for my husband and I.'cause we were, you know, not that we were not believing, but we were just, you know, caught up in life and stress and everything. And we realized we're putting a lot of. Anxiety and stress and like everything else in front of what we should focus on, which is the Lord getting us through. So. Amen. It was to make my point, it just sounds like especially with the rarity of your genes and everything, that God really wants to use Isaiah in that this situation. Yeah, most definitely. I think, um, one of our biggest parts of our testimony with Isaiah would be when we're at the hospital and. We had this moment of, you know, he got rushed out because they, we got rushed out because the, he was gonna get, he des statted. So his, his oxygen levels dropped down very low where he had to get a code blue and a team had to come in and kind of revive him. And there was a moment where they said that he had water in his lung. And, um, I remember she had called me. I was, we switched home that day. It was just me and Lorenzo came home and she's like, I need you to get back over here. She's like, we're losing our boy. I said that, they told me that they have to operate now at this moment. They don't know what's gonna happen. And they kicked me out and they made it into a sterile room and they were gonna put tubes into his lungs and he was gonna be intubated if, was he already intubated? He was already intubated. So they were gonna, they made us sign a form. They were like you signed this form. And it's pretty much like we were giving them authorization that if he does pass, like they did all that they could. We allowed and we allowed it. So he got there and, you know, he was being operated in the room and we're crying out to the Lord. And, and we had this Abraham Isaac moment that we realized, like, even in this, we need to understand that if the outcome is something as devastating as him not being with us anymore. That's still the Lord's will, we still have to be okay with that we, that we still have to give him the glory and understand that he always knows better for us than we do. Yeah. I remember that moment. We were, it was, I cleared the table, I said, we got on our knees. And I looked at my wife and I said, God's calling us right now to surrender Isaiah. No matter what happens, we have to be okay with it. If God's gonna take him, we have to be okay with that. And it's to God be the glory. And if God's gonna keep him, then we're gonna be okay with that. And to God be the glory. Mm-hmm. We had both agreed on that. We prayed, we surrendered him to Jesus, said, Lord, just your will be done and we're gonna be okay with whatever decision, whatever outcome. And we said, in Jesus' mighty name, amen. And within seconds, within seconds, the doctors come in and they were like, we don't know how, but he's stable. And we're like, we know how. We know how. We know how. We know that. That was God saying, you know, like, do you trust me? Yeah. And. I think a big part of what we're doing and why we're on social media is to show families, like it's so easy to get caught up in being scared of what could happen. Yeah. And losing track of the fact that God already knows what's gonna happen. Amen. And he already knows. And it was it was just such a powerful moment in our relationship for our family just to have that connection with God to know like he, he has our back. Yeah. No matter what. And we were still in there for like 60 days, but it, he, it was, we were on the top floor where it's like the most intensive care area. A lot of. Sick children up there. I remember nurses would come into our room, um, with our son still in life support, and they were like, this, so there's so much chaos on this floor. When I come into this room, there's a piece, I just, there's a piece that I can't, I can't explain. I'm like, gosh, God. I'm like, is it a piece that surpasses under understanding, you know, you can't help it because the Lord gave us everything we need in the Bible. You know, like every time they'd come in, like we had. We were warriors for our son. We had scripture written on postcards on, I mean, on index cards all over his entire crib. We had worship music playing pretty much 24 7 in that room. Yeah. We had so many conversations with nurses and even with doctors, some that were like, oh, I'm a believer. This is so beautiful. Some that were like, I was, but you know what? I was hurt because of this and that. Yeah. Full conversations of just like we even had one of the, um, what's it called? Joe Pastor, what was his name? Oh, the chaplain. The chaplain would come in. Even the chaplain was, and he would come pick our brains.'cause he'd be like, how do you guys stay so committed to your faith with this going on? He's like, I see so many families and sometimes, you know, they seem to lose that faith when they're having these situations not realizing and we'll tell'em, you know, it's'cause they're not understanding that through this testimony there's still good that's gonna come out of it. Yeah. No matter what, there's still something that you're gonna be able to help somebody else in the future regardless the outcome that we want. There's still there, there's still good. Absolutely. Yeah. So that was, it was crazy. Sorry we just go off and start like just talking. No, I love it. That's what the podcast is, is poor. Awesome. Um, that's seriously, and that's what God commands us to do is just let our testimony be b useful to others and to never, the, another foundation for this podcast is the story of the woman at the well. Mm-hmm. Um, so when she was living fully in sin and she meets Jesus and he's like, yeah, I already know everything. I already know your dirty laundry. And she is then like, oh my goodness, this is Jesus. This is the one. This is someone I need to go tell everybody about. And so that's what she goes and does. And this is a woman who beforehand was very much isolated from society. Yeah. And for her to just have a complete turnaround and go and talk to everybody. In that town and be like, y'all need to go meet this guy. Like, this is a real deal. That's what we wanna do with this podcast is for to just air out our dirty laundry and for it to be used for the purpose that it was meant to be used for, to bring good news and the way that God is working in different situations. So even if it looks really dying devastating and traumatic, it is actually being used for good. Amen. Amen. But, and it sounds like, uh, especially in, I wanna say the medical field science and all of that stuff, it can, God can get lost in that. Yeah. But. If we really look at it, I mean, God is in everything. And I truly believe that the study of science is the study of God is just what God has created. And it can be used or bad. I'm not saying that there's not, there is evil out there and there are people who want to, twist God's creation for bad. But it really sounds like you guys have had the fortunate, the have been fortunate in finding people who are just wanting to do good and, and help Isaiah and yeah, that'ss great. That your faith can be put on display at the same time. Oh yeah, definitely. Definitely. So with this new, I wanna make sure I get this right, but you guys are looking to upgrade your van. Well, we currently have a four Runner, which is like our adventure car, and it's a truck and we initially, we bought it right after we got married. You know, the Lord blessed us with that truck so that we can have our family be in a very. Nice car, reliable. That was reliable and we bought it. We're looking for a third row because we already knew we were gonna have more kids. So that third row, we don't really use it, but it gives us space. But having Isaiah's medical needs and all of his equipment, yeah, plus it. Baby girl who's still a baby and baby on the way. Yeah. We're, we're maxed out. So yeah, we're above capacity at this point. So now, yeah, more fundraising for the van and, and we even, you know, we were even trialing vans, just regular vans to try out and even then, you know, Lorenzo smashed in the little corner and I have a wheelchair poking him in the side. And we're trying to think, I'm like, no, we need a bus. I'm like, yeah. Like we might as well go again another step up, which for me is a little intimidating.'cause I mean, this transit van is so big. But yeah, I really feel like, for all of us to be comfortable and to continue to do what it is that the Lord wants for us it's gonna have to be something a little bigger. I'm gonna have to get over that fear of driving that big old van. Yeah. For that. So when, uh, I want our. Audience to be able to help support this. So where can I, where can I point them in a direction to help help you guys support? Um, yeah, just our, our social media links found nomads. There, we're on Instagram, we're on TikTok. We have a GoFundMe that we raised through. Yeah. Our link. And then we also have our link tree, which shows like, if you wanna contribute in any other way. I think we have PayPal. I think we have, yeah, we have shirts too though. We have like Isaiah's journey teas that I started making. Mm-hmm. And then all that, you know, this we do, I'm out of the shirts though. I do, I do donate to the Walk Foundation, which is the Warrior Syndrome Foundation. And then, um, but yeah, for the, for the van to help contribute that, we have all of our links on our socials. Most prominent on TikTok. Yeah. Yeah. I'll, uh, definitely link that in our show notes when we Awesome. Cool. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, no problem. That's, we really, really are excited about this podcast growing so that we can. Do that. Just be a ministry basically. So Amen. Amen. I love it. I love it. God's worked. I'm definitely gonna get some shirts for me and charity. I wish y'all could have met her. Um, I actually saw, uh, will, I saw your video where you were talking about your health journey a little bit, Uhhuh. Um, and she is like, well, we both met because we were well it's just kind of a small community, but we're both personal trainers at first. Mm-hmm. Right. And so we knew of each other, uh, from just being in different gyms and, and training around each other. But she is like a hundred percent a like homeopath type, like natural girly. She, she like is all about the most natural way of living life. And she actually has a, her own LLC called Non-Toxic Living. And sustainability. I think that's what it's called, but That's awesome. Anyways, I will definitely like let her know that you might be on the lookout for some people That would be great. Link us up. Yeah. I'm, I feel like I've been on this journey forever. Um, but just recently I was like, man, I was like, you know what, like, it's just God's given, God's really been like just pouring into me as far as like, you know, this is a ministry that we're starting here and there's, there's so much more readily available to us now that it wasn't before. And God's making it very apparent that, you know, he's designed us to our, our bodies are a temple and you know, the examples that we leave and as long, like with the discipline. Yeah. Like, you know, if you lack discipline, then it's gonna be a lot harder. And so. Putting his will before our own, constantly in every situation. You know, I wear this all the time to remind me what would Jesus do? Like would he be picking this meal when I could be picking this meal? Like even as little as that. Not to say you can't enjoy sometimes a little bit of something, but you know, in moderation. Definitely. Yeah. And so that's something that we're working on, not just for ourselves, but for our kids and yeah, for the longevity of our life. And there's just, it comes, you know, full circle every time. Yeah. Love that. I support that. I have. Falling back just because pregnancy, it was really difficult, like first trimester. And the only thing I really wanted was like cheeseburgers. Mm-hmm. And it was the only thing I could really like, keep down too, It sp sent me into a downfall in my diet, but I'm so looking forward to, I don't know if you relate to this, but I'm very much looking forward to just not being pregnant. I'm enjoying it, but it's at the same time, like as a personal trainer, I'm just ready to get back into the swing of things. But yeah, it's very consuming. Pregnancy consumes every little moment of our life right now, so I totally You real at? Yeah. Ours two. Ours two. Yeah. But, okay. I'm gonna look back at the questions I had prepared just to make sure, um, I cover everything. Okay. So, we kind of touched on this a little bit, but is there a particular moment, like a standout moment where you saw God's hand at work in this journey you're going through with Isaiah? Um, yeah, well, I think number one was, was when we were in the hospital for that time, but just recently, I think one of the, the coolest things is seeing like this expansion of our channel and everything that's going on through social media. God's been really showing up because it was just, you know, it was just a vision. It was just a thought. It was an idea. And I was like, you know, we've gotta just run with this. And seeing though the amount, the outpour of his sons and daughters reaching out the prayers, like we genuinely feel the prayers. And it's just been amazing to see this, like outpour of God's love through something that I, I had like, TikTok was like the back burner. I was like, oh no. Like we gotta do YouTube. We gotta do this one day. We're gonna, and like, I've always had that thought and that idea that this is some, a route that we wanted to go down. But just seeing like something that I was like, oh, let's just try TikTok. And seeing just it blow up in such a way where people have been reaching out to us and just different sponsorships Isaiah has opportunities to get and different believers that have come into our lives from just random social media posts that, you know, so seeing God's hand move in that has really inspired me and my wife to kind of just like, okay, God's giving us a platform now. We need to speak about him. We need to share and we need to, you know, it's our encourage, it's our way. Yeah, it's our way of doing the Great Commission, which is making disciples of all nations. It's like Isaiah's testimonies, reaching parts of the world that will never, I may never really step on, but Isaiah's story got there. Yeah. So seeing that reach like that has blown me away. I'm just like, wow, Lord. Like this is crazy. You know? So that's been pretty amazing to see that and to know that his testimony of of, of, of the goodness of God, of,'cause God's been so good to him to us. And just seeing that, being pushed down such a magnitude has been pretty amazing. And I think for me, it's, it's the connections that we're making that can only be connections by God. Mm-hmm. I have one specific moment, on my own that I had with a mom after we came outta the hospital, we had attended our first event back at the church, and she came up to me and she's like, you don't know me. She's like, I follow your husband on social media, which is before we even had like anything, like, I've always been documenting, she's always documented, you know, what's going on in our life on our social media. She's like, you don't know me. She's like, but I just wanted to tell you this because I feel it on my heart. I had a daughter in the hospital last year who passed away. And I've been very upset with God, very mad that he took her from me. And before she passed away, they told me that she was going to be a lot like Isaiah on a trach with a G-tube. And she was gonna be medically complex and she was gonna have all of these situations that were gonna be you know, things that I was gonna have to care for. And when she passed, I was just very mad with God and told him, why would you do that? Seeing your journey and seeing you guys. Express what's going on in your lives. I know now that I understand that God didn't want that for me and that maybe my situation, it wasn't gonna be like your situation. And maybe if I would've forced that, where I would've forced her to stay when I wanted her because of my own will and my own wants and desires would've been going against what he wanted and that her going to him is actually what was best for her. Mm-hmm. And I found healing in seeing that. And I was just, it just, I really needed to tell you because. I just really was so angry with God for what he had done, and now I'm realizing through your story that God does everything for a reason. And to me just seeing that side of a story where it's not the, God pulled me through, but you healed a hurt that I had with him by just sharing what you have. Those kind of testimonies and those kind of stories are what really touched me because. I would've never have known that just by showing what God was doing in our life would help somebody to heal from a hurt that he might have had with them, or she might, they might have had with him. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just crazy that, you know, God works behind so many closed doors and he's only able to, when we step out of that comfort zone. Yeah. So, you know, for us, the comfort zone for a lot of people is social media. And so stepping out and just saying like, you know what? We're gonna post it whether people understand it or not, because maybe it's not for us, maybe it is for somebody else, is been one of the greatest things I think in this whole journey. Yeah, it's been pretty epic. Yeah. God is so good. Oh, definitely, definitely making a difference. Just being one of those people affected by Isaiah's story. It, I can't tell you how many times I've seen one of your videos and just been. Just praising the Lord for Isaiah and also asking for blessings for your family. But, um, just crying too of the, just the strength, like the Holy Spirit can move you in such a way when you see the strength of the Lord coming through people. But yeah, there, is there a specific Bible verse that you guys. Have like reoccur or like always on your mind when you're Uh, I do I have Romans 12, two, and it's because we're, we're constantly in a battle, especially being on social media of conforming to the world. And, and uh, you know, the Bible says, do not conform to the patterns of this world to be transformed by the renewing of your mind. And I feel like that's been the biggest thing.'cause you hear about, like, you hear about. Heart transplants and all kinds of transplants, but you never hear about a brain transplant. And that was a sermon that I watched a long time ago and it really touched me because God is the only one that can truly transform your mind. And we can get caught up in all these things'cause the world has so many things to offer and they may look beautiful and shiny and ready to go and, but it's like, it's all, it all comes void and null when it comes to what God can truly give you. That's been a verse that has really taken me, and now it's even more because being in social media, I see things, I'm like, well this, and I see this and I see that. And um, you know, it's like, well, am I, who am I serving? You can't serve two masters. So it's like, that's been one thing that's really helped transform. And I'm like, you know what? God's still moving. He's transformed my mind. He's the only one that can do this. And I think that only happens with true surrender. Yeah, a hundred percent. Which is constantly surrendering, every day. Surrendering, okay, what is it that I'm putting first? What is it that I'm seeking out? What is it that I'm getting my gratification from, and is that in alignment with what the Lord wants? Because I can't be transformed if I'm trying to hold onto whatever it is that I'm doing. Yeah. If I'm finding a lot of joy in, being. On TV and watch or like watching TV or watching the show. Like, is that what the Lord wants? Am I able to be transformed or do I have to surrender that and say, okay, maybe I should be, you know, reorganizing my priorities again. Yeah. Constantly transforming and changing and, and he is never done, allowed him to work. And he's never done. He's never done. Like there's always, and he, oh, he, he's done. We're up in heaven with them. Mm-hmm. Like, while we're still here on earth, there's always gonna be that transformation. There's always gonna be that, that walk is not a hard, it's not an easy walk. Definitely not. And it's hard to not conform. It's not, it's hard to not, be part of the world and do all that stuff. So it's like, it's just beautiful to see that. But yeah, that's one of my main, like, that's one of our main ones that we use. Yeah. Together. Yeah. Yeah. Well that's a good one. I love that. This is a kind of an interesting question I wanted to ask, because it's, you know, you, you're posting really. Intimate things online that are really personal and it's, it can be scary, but I think, like you said, it, it is comforting to know that it's making a difference in, in leading others to Christ. But what is something that you wish people like people may not know or see from your social media that they wish you wish they knew about Isaiah? That's a good one. Yeah. I think that a, like one of the hardest responses that I see on there is gonna be when people are like, why are you putting him through this? Why are you letting this happen? Like, just let him go. If we are the ones in control. Yeah. And, and I think that a lot of, you know, times that they don't realize that. We're putting our personal life out there because we don't know what the timeline looks like for him, but we do know that God is in it every step of the way. Amen. And so we wanna make sure that even though people may think that he is, you know, people have these different ideas because, you know, they can just grab one image and then their mind runs with it based off of their own life, based off of their own experiences. We're just really hoping that our channel is able to show them like what you may think. Doesn't outweigh what God's doing. And so when they leave these comments, we're like, we're not holding onto anything more than what God is giving us. Mm-hmm. We're not pushing past, we're not taking anything into our own hands besides what we can. Yeah. And that should be for everybody and, and their life. Don't just give up if you feel like a situation is, you know, not going your way because God's still working in it and don't have overly, don't try to overly control a situation either. Right. Or you're forcing mm-hmm. An outcome. And so I think a lot of times, you know, those kind of comments, you know, or even the comments that are like, how can there be a God? Well, no, this is God. God is showing up in this moment. Yeah. And really just trying to get people to see. That we're putting our personal lives out there so that they understand that God lives in the imperfect Yeah. He's there. He cannot be a strength where there is no weakness. Yeah. And a lot of times people may not understand that, and I'm hoping that through this and through Isaiah's testimony and our family's testimony, that they can see, you know what? Yeah. That good can come from anything. And maybe, I don't know it all, maybe they don't know it all. Maybe they don't know what's best for our kids because that's not their situation, but they might have a situation they're going through that they need to let the Lord handle. Amen. Yeah. That is such a blessing. I'm so glad that, um, even through, and I was gonna ask about ne you know, negativity you guys face online, but it sounds like even, even through maybe discouraging people out there that it doesn't, have much. Yeah. We just remind ourselves to have grace. Yeah. You know, not everybody has the experience with the Lord that we have, but we're praying for it for them. Mm-hmm. We're praying that they can be changed by that, you know? Yeah. Romans 12, two, like we said, you know, we were transformed. Every situation can be positive because the Lord knows what's best for us. Yeah. So even those we know. Yeah. Like, we know, putting ourselves out there, we're gonna get that kind of stuff. It's, it's a given, you know, even even up to like, people even trying to capitalize on it. Mm-hmm. And we've found Isaiah's videos on random accounts with GoFundMe linked to them, and there's a lot Yeah, I saw that. I saw that and I was like. So absurd. Yeah. And people will send it to us like, Hey, did you see this? I'm like, Hey all we can do. And there's, it doesn't go against any community guidelines that they won't take them down. But like, it just, it just goes to show that, you know, even in those situations, I, God is still using Isaiah in such a mighty way, way to, so I'm like, you know what? I'm like, that's what, that's what it takes. I'm like, Lord, just let it be your will. And, and you know, so we, we just run with it. Yeah. We, we don't let the little things worry us. Yeah. We don't let them upset us because, you know, we live in an imperfect world and that's obvious. And so yeah. All we can do is continue to be a beacon. Be a lighthouse. That's our goal. So that other people who are facing that type of thing, they don't feel discouraged by it either. And they can know that there is more beyond that. Amen. Well, you guys sound very positive, encouraging for sure. But was there ever a time where it was not that it wasn't the case, it's a lot to go through what you're going through. So in that, in those, can you describe that to our audience? Yeah. Yeah, we, well we've had, like I said, prior to us even being saved, um, I felt like we were, we were very toxic with each other. Yeah. Our testimony for ourselves. Yeah. With each other. God, we didn't even know, like, I mean, it was violent, it was toxic. Like my parents hated him, you know, he didn't have a very good upbringing on certain times. I didn't have a very good upbringing certain times. And so, you know, we were too broken people trying to make it happen on our own. And it wasn't until we let God kind of take over that that was transformed. Yeah. So I think, but yeah, we've had some murky moments, but even, even after, so like, we're very positive because in the end we have to have that moment of, okay, let's bring it down. You know?'cause being, with being a family with a medically complex child takes a toll. Yeah. Any relationship understands that. Yes. Especially marriages. The enemy wants to separate marriages so bad because the family is the heart of where God is. The love there. So separating families from each other, husbands and wives. Parents with the kids, all of that's all part of everybody's life, and we're not excluded in that. Mm-hmm. And although, we're very positive people, there are moments where our marriage will take a toll because yeah, we're very stressed. We have, we're stressed, but not too stressed to be blessed. So we know, like we have a very full week and we have this going on and this going on and, you know, I'm, I might be, you know, over the top, my house is a disaster and you know, it's affecting my mental health. And so it takes a lot of work to know that even when we have all of these ups and downs and stressful moments in the end. We gotta bring it right back. Yeah. We gotta bring it back. We can't let, we can't sit in those moments of, of when we're mad at each other or when we're overwhelmed with the kids. Yeah. Or you know, sometimes it does feel like too much we have to remember, okay, let's take a moment to take a breath. Let's get into prayer. Let's get on our knees and surrender. Let's do what we don't really feel like doing. Which is to be honest. Mm-hmm.'Cause a lot of times those moments you really aren't feeling like going and talking to God about it.'cause you just wanna vent or you just wanna lash out or get angry. And it's that moment where you have to kind of say, okay, let me take a breath. This is this much of what we're seeing. Yeah. It might be a bad day, but it's not a bad life. And you know, the world is all around us. We may be. The world, but we're not of it. And we have to constantly remind ourselves of that. So we try to be positive on our social media and we don't usually post like our negative stuff. And sometimes I tell him, maybe we should post, like when something like that does happen, because people can relate. Yeah. But at the same time, we don't want people to think that's what we're about because we're not. Mm-hmm. We're all about pushing past those moments.'cause those moments are gonna come. Becoming a Christian doesn't mean, or following the Lord, doesn't mean we're gonna have this perfect life and we're never gonna have any problems. If anything, it means that you're gonna be more aware of the problems. Yeah. Because you're like, Hey God, like I thought we're on the same team here. You know? So, and the target on your back and the end sees that, so, no. Yeah. We go through dark moments, we go through tough times, especially having a medically fragile child. Mm-hmm. And, um, yeah. But I think it's, it's what we learned from those moments. Like, you know, we, we. Dive in deeper to our Bible studies, like mm-hmm. We just finished a Bible study of marriage one. Today was our last day. Mm-hmm. And I could tell you it was even hard in the morning, like, well, we didn't do our Bible study today. I'm like, oh, well we're using that against each other. I was like, well, maybe that's why we're fighting today, because we, we didn't go into the word right in the morning when we should have. And you know, I'm like, well, did you pray? And shes like, oh, I don't know. Did you pray? I'm like, and they're like, now we see, we see what's going on. Step back, take breath. But I think that the main thing is, is knowing that those moments are gonna come. But God is omnipresent. He's in everything. So when we're attacked or anything like that, like the enemy's not omnipresent, he can't be exactly everywhere. Time. He does flee eventually. And, and it takes us being on our knees. It may take us separating for a little bit. Like, you know what, I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna pray. Well, that's why it's important too, to be in the Bible'cause Yeah. Even God tells us our feelings are fleeting. Yeah. So what we feel one moment is not gonna determine what we are gonna feel for the rest of our life. The only thing we have that's a firm foundation is the Bible, the word of God. It's the only thing that will not change in this ever changing, constantly changing world. Yeah. Constantly changing emotions. Everything is always moving around us, but God is that firm foundation that we need to plant our feet on. Amen. Just wanna know if financially I can only imagine the burden that is placed on you guys. But I know that there are resources, like you said, and I know in Arkansas you're able to get paid as a caregiver, especially if you have to be, you know, 24 7 care for a child or, family member in some aspect. So is that something you guys get to. Utilize. Yes. that's good that you let us know. I've been looking for, I'm like, we love California, but I've been looking extra No bad over here. I've been looking at different states to see where we can get resources, so I'm really glad that you let us know that. I'm like, that's cool. Yeah. But yes, we do, we have, uh, what's called IHSS in California, which, uh, she's the primary caregiver and at this point he's, because Isaiah is total care they grants us extra hours that exceed her hours. And they're giving'em to me. But I, so I went and got certified to be a caregiver, but it has not gone through yet. We're praying that that goes through a lot patients in the medical field. Yeah. It's very long and taxing at times. Um, but yes, financial wise, she gets paid as a caregiver for him. And, um, I do, we were working at the church for a while. I was all the media team at the church, but I do, I'm like a freelancer. I do video and pho, I do photography and stuff like that. But it is a fine line in California that you have to walk between getting the finances that you need for the care that you're doing. Yeah. And then qualifying for like the insurance and all of that. So we currently have Medi-Cal through the state mm-hmm. For Isaiah, which pays for all of his care. Wow. It's a lot. Yeah. So it's a lot of work on our end of trying to make sure that we don't have one over the other. Yeah. Because if you have too much income, then they'll take that from you and then therefore you have to pay all of these medical bills through your income. And then the other way, you know, if you don't make enough money then you know, California's a very, a. High paying state, uh, like a high affordability state. So it takes a lot That's very expensive. It's very expensive to live here. Just in general, you know, we're very blessed with what the Lord has provided with us. Like our rent here, we live in my grandma's house that she bought when she moved here from Mexico. And so once that, you know, situation, whatever may happen from it, when it's to, we can't afford, we can't afford regular rent. We can't afford a, a house for sure. Even regular rent's like very expensive. right now we're in a three bedroom, one bath, house. I think if we wanted to have that, we would be paying almost$3,000 a month. And so that's a big, big chunk of what we would be pulling out of what we're making. And so it's a fine thing, but we just continue to leave it up to the Lord. Yeah. And, and let him guide us and wherever it is that he needs to move us and however. It's gonna work out. We know it's gonna work out in the end. Yeah. But yeah, finances here, we do get, we are able to get paid to care for him, which is a blessing in itself. You know, I had a, I had a mom tell me that she feels guilty for that, that she gets paid. I told her, I said, the Lord put you here too. Mm-hmm. I said, your troubles and your hardships are gonna be different than other people and maybe somebody else. They won't have that, but maybe that will be one of their hardships that they'll have to, you know, lean into God for. Yeah. And so, you know, there's nothing that happens that isn't allowed by him. Yeah. So, you know, yeah. We just, finances are just so tricky. That's one of our murky battles that we're Yeah. We're going through and just you know, trying to figure out how to allocate it appropriately and make sure that we have everybody in the house has what they need. My 10-year-old, he wants to be in sports and stuff, so we gotta accommodate for that on top of just the medical, because I mean, the medical needs themselves are very expensive. Yeah. But thankfully, we have a lot of resources that we can tap into so that we can also give benefits to the other kids. And that's how the whole TikTok thing started, because there was a chair that I wanted for Isaiah that we can't afford. And it wasn't covered. And it wasn't covered. And we ended up getting that chair through TikTok. I mean, that's, that was the first like, sign of gone just like, like, wow. That, that's crazy. That's insane, Lord. Like, thank you. Like, and then her testimony and just connecting with other believers in the world. Yeah. And in the US it's just been, it's just been amazing. It's been pretty amazing. But yeah, so it all started with that kinda, not that affordability, not being able to afford something. Mm-hmm. You know, that had me seek this, and then we have started getting paid through TikTok. There the main way to make money there is like selling items or having like affiliate, like. Sponsorship. So we're not making a lot, but'cause they only pay, like, they don't really pay you by your followers Follower view. Yeah. Followers mean nothing. I mean, you get exposure from your followers because they're loyal, you know, if you, if you have loyal followers, but TikTok really only cares about new people you're making. Yeah. So having, having things, videos hit like the FYP and having those people. But you know what, even that, even then God has showed, I'm like, whoa. Like there's videos that I've just in, just like this month we had one that hit 4 million. Then even that's a testimony itself. Yeah. I was in prayer one morning after one of the videos went viral and God's like, okay, dude again, but in Spanish, like, I literally heard God say, do it in Spanish, do it again in Spanish. And that video has surpassed all the other words, you know, and, and still they only, they pay, like, sometimes they pay like 3 cents of you, but it's the number so it's the volume, you know, we have to remember that it's not about that. Like, that's not what our end goal is. what's it called? What's that word? A site. Uh, i'm looking for that word when it's just like, it comes from that, a byproduct of it. A byproduct. Yeah. So the final, yeah, the byproduct. That's been a blessing. That's been a blessing. We're, that's what my goal is to like, I would love one day to be able to just be like a full-time creator and do all that stuff and, and showcase our family. I see other families are doing it. So we're working on time management. Yeah. We're working on financing our, you know, management. We're working on all of the things that'll encompass. That'll allow that. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. But, um, God's making a way and he's transforming us still. Mm-hmm. You know, things that we never expected. So, but yeah, that's kind of where we're at. But yeah, we do get paid for to care for him, and we're praying that it goes through for the extra hours for me. That would be amazing. That would be because he is total care. Yeah. He's, he's, and now that he's getting older and he's getting bigger and she's pregnant, it's been a lot, it's been a lot harder to care for him. So I've been, that's why they gave us those extra hours because I've been able to, you know, facilitate that and, and help her out as much as possible. Yeah. So. Mm-hmm. And, and speaking of the, the care the way that you guys care for him, just seeing it from social media is, it is just heartwarming. It is like the most wholesome way to watch. Um, parents interact with their medically complex child, I think is you guys. I don't know if you guys have ever listened to this podcast, but I highly, highly, highly recommend it. It's called The Telepathy Tapes. Have you ever heard of this? Yeah, I think we looked into it, right? Yeah. We started listening a little bit, but we kind of had, we were in the middle of the trip when they, we were talking about it. Yeah. It kind of got lost on us, but it's, if you wanna just gimme a little breakdown. Yeah. So I know his situation is a little differently, but with children who can't necessarily communicate verbally, they can do so, telepathically, and I don't know if you guys have ever experienced that, but I definitely have. When I was I was working in a, it was a daycare that was specifically for special needs children. Um, so we had all kinds, like autistic children who couldn't communicate and, uh, p uh, also children who had rare conditions like, like Isaiah. So I experienced the craziest stuff. Just like, for instance, there was a kid, he was very nonverbal, but had such a big personality and loved to eat. That was his, his obsession was food. And, um, I just remember like having to keep stuff walked away or up in a cabinet where I, he couldn't reach this child. Knew it was like he read my mind and knew where this was because there was, I, I would hide it when he wasn't even in the classroom. So you didn't see where I put it. But he knew. Wow. He knew. So yeah, just like speaking about that for a second, it's would be something I would definitely love to hear if you guys have experienced that, where you just, like, you just know. And, and I don't wanna give too much credit to, too much science, I guess. But like I said, I believe science is the study of God. So I just believe that this and in the podcast they do, they do talk about, um, God and how these kids they go and they, it's. A spirit thing. They go in spirit and meet with one another, and it's like they have this greater force, God conducting this and like allowing this to happen. And so they talk about, it's called The Hill and it's, it's such an interesting podcast, but that's super. Yeah. These kids can go and communicate with each other and what I feel like all of this is just the Holy Spirit, just allowing, and it's a way, the Holy Spirit is a way for us to communicate. And so, but anyways have you, that's amazing. No, that's, I wanna definitely look into that. Yeah, we definitely have to keep on, put it back on and see.'cause I think we barely got into like half of the first episode and then we're somewhere and we had to turn it off. But as far as experiencing stuff like that, it's, I don't know about. Like communication, but like he is nonverbal and he does have very little bit of like facial expressions and so we just kind of, we know him. Yeah. Like I would just be like, what does it have to in the hospital? Then one of the nurses said, oh, you know, assessing your patient. Yeah. And she's like, I don't even need, like I've, I'm so good at that. And I'm like, well, we've come to a place in the time where we know what he needs before he even like, yeah. Needs before the monitor goes off. Like we already kind of know. Well, we also had a very interesting moment once when we took him to a church service where they were doing prayers and speaking in tongues because we are a Pentecostal family and we were praying in tongues and we were just letting the Holy Spirit move through us and praying for Isaiah. In that moment, we had a woman come up to us and give us a prophetic word and she said, I hope you know that along with speaking in tongues. Understanding tongues is also prophetic. And your son Isaiah may not speak, but he knows what's what you're being, what's being said. I get chills. Just, yeah. And so that really hit us because when we put on worship music or when we put on, um, you know, a Bible study on the TV or when we're reading the word, there's a different kind of glimmer in his eye. And I really truly feel like prophetically, he probably really does understand the gift of tongues and has that connection with God in a supernatural way that we can't explain. Yeah. So whether we feel that with him, I have without a shadow of doubt, know that he feels that with the Lord. Yeah. And it has to do with how much we are in our word around him. And then that will kind of push him even further. Yeah. Beyond what it is that the Lord's already connecting with him about. That's for sure. Yeah, a hundred percent. Oh, I love that. I love that so much. Yeah, he's definitely like being used by the Lord and that's, oh, I'm sorry. I mean something. No, he is, he is definitely being used by the Lord and like we talk about it a called a strong silent, you know, strong silent. Strong and silent. But,'cause he may not say anything verbally, but it's like, man, like he, he speaks volumes and he really does. So yeah, I'm look into those podcasts'cause I, I've seen it a couple times in the comments to look it up and we had looked it up and we're on our trip. Yeah. So busy. But yeah, I want to definitely, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. We appreciate you reminding us about that. That's, that's great. Yeah. I just I believe it's a great way. Well, it sounds like he, he can already. You guys already just have such a strong bond that it's already happening whether you realize it or not, but if you can actually like tap into that. Yeah. It can be so much because when the children on, um, that were, it's actually was, you know, a study. It's been done, studied and done multiple times where it's been proven. But, um, it's just what you'll, you'll find in the podcast is it's hard for the s scientific community to take it seriously because it does come back to God the supernatural, the, the proof that there is a higher power and anyways, but that's definitely, I mean, you guys would. Be so surprised at everything that these kids are learning and soaking in, like, and if, if Isaiah is, is utilizing that he would, you would know and he would be like, oh, you guys, you guys finally get it. Like this is, uh, yeah, this small world that he's experiencing. But yeah it's, that's awesome. Amazing. But so let me ask it. When you guys are going to be having your, is this your child? Are you done after this? I mean, I've been praying about it. I feel peace about it. I feel peace about it being my last child. Yeah. My husband's still like, I don't know. God hasn't talked to me. Yeah, I, well, maybe he's using me to talk to you. Four is a lot and you know, four with a medically complex child is even more. Yeah. And so the, just needing this van was kind of like an eyeopener, you know, because I told him, I said, until we get the van, while we have this car, once we have the new baby, we might end up having to take two cars to certain places if we can't fit everything into one. So, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying, I'm just saying the van's a 15 seater, so I'm just kidding. We haven't closed the door. Yeah. But I've definitely been heavy in prayer about it and, you know, feeling whether or not that's what he wants for us. If it was up to me, I would say yes. That's why I, we were thinking that prior to, uh, having this child and God spoke to her very, very vividly. And we joked about it.'cause I told, you know, we, we sat down and we were kneeling in prayer together at the end of our bed. And I said, Lord, I said, I know that you don't like this, but I'm gonna ask for three signs. God give me three clear signs. God, I said, I know you could do it. I know you don't have to do it. You don't, you don't have to do it if you don't want to. But I would like that if he could or whatever, you know, like we're just being real honest with God, you know?'cause that's, it's a relationship. It's not, it's not a religion, it's a relationship that you're building with him. Yeah. And no, sure enough, within, I think probably like within two, three days we had three V, we had four Very clear situations where it was like, oh, we had one where, you know, the woman was. A woman, our friend from church, her husband was asking him for prayer for very specifically. We don't really talk to him. He's like, I just, I feel like I'm, I'm, I need to ask you for a favor. I was like, yeah. He's like, it's very intimate prayer. Very personal mind. What is it? He is like, can you pray for us for my wife in her womb? She can give birth so we can have a baby. We can't have a baby. And I'm like, well, no. She was getting a hysterectomy, so, oh, that was two though. I had another one. Oh, that was the other, yeah, that was the other one. Telling you it was just kind of like crazy. One was to help her have a baby. Yeah.'cause she, they weren't conceiving, the other one was prayer because she was having a hysterectomy and they had never had a baby and they had wanted a baby. So for us, I was like, and we're over here deciding on our own whether or not we're gonna close the womb when there's these people out in the world praying for it. So that was for us. And so. You know, we're, we're still being guided. I mean, this one's not even out yet. And then, but the crazy part about it is she was over here saying, we're praying if we shouldn't have a baby. You were already pregnant. I was already pregnant. She didn't even know it. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. But you know, a lot of people, we even get that in our comments like, you know, you shouldn't be having any more kids. Like, you don't think this is enough? And I think it's, it weighs a little bit. It doesn't ever give, I don't give it weight, but it is heavy. So I think, you know, we just take an all into account whether or not to have another one, but ultimately we leave it up to the Lord, you know? Yeah. Amen. He's very clear when you, when you listen out for him, especially when you're very specific with him, he's very specific with you. So, I know, I know. Eventually I'll have that very clear. Yes. We will both have it. I feel like I have the piece of him saying, you know, whether you have another one doesn't matter for me. That's how I feel like, whatever you feel, we're just busting out the seams here. Yeah. It's not just our car, it's it's our house. It's our home. Yeah. It's, it's a little bit of everything. Yeah. So, but, but I'm like, Lord, you know what you're doing, so. Yeah. So God will make it very clear for us when that yes or no comes, or he'll do what he did in my situation. Just surprise. Yeah. Right. Exactly. We don't, we don't know. So I don't hold nothing past God.'cause he's big. He's funny sometimes like that. He'll just give you something that you were like oh, okay. All right. With it. Yeah. Well, I'm so, I'm so excited for you guys. Your family is such a blessing and I just, I pray that you guys can continue to, um, just keep blessing others too. Like it's, it's, uh, it's really incredible and encouraging what you guys are doing and I just encourage you to keep doing it. Awesome. For you guys. Thank you so much. Amen. I appreciate your time today. I am gonna go ahead and close it out'cause we've been talking for a good while. Yeah, sounds good. Thank you so much for having us on your podcast. Yeah, it was awesome. Of course. Thank you guys so much. I appreciate that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, and we're, I'm gonna link everything, um, to help support y'all's page and Isaiah's journey and everything. God bless you. God bless you. Have a great rest. Alright. Bye guys. Bye bye.