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Built From Pressure: Bobby Zane Story *Da Motivation*
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On this episode of Steppin W/ Unc, Unc Dove and Roll Model Ty sit down with rising artist Bobby Zane for a real conversation about pressure, purpose, pain, growth, and the grind behind the music 🎙️💯
Bobby Zane opens up about his journey, staying motivated through adversity, representing where he comes from, and what it really takes to keep pushing when life gets heavy. From music and loyalty to mental health, relationships, and chasing success — this episode is deeper than just entertainment.
If you’ve ever had to fight through obstacles while trying to become a better version of yourself, this one gonna hit different.
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SPEAKER_02The beat Excel.
SPEAKER_04What up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, yo up? It's your boy Onk Dove, start with Onk Podcast. We had a night on a Friday night. I got my guy with me. We're gonna let everybody introduce themselves. We're gonna get right to business. What up, Ty? Yes, old role model Ty here. We're on Dove and my new guy, one of my new favorite artists. This guy came through and showed us some shit. What's up, my guy? What's up, man? Um it's Bobby Zayn, man. I'm from Chester, PA, man. Um, shout out Dove and Ty for having me on this podcast, man. Congratulations on y'all. On y'all I'm saying, taking a step towards y'all journey too as well. Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that for the support. Appreciate you having here, man. Chester, man. Chester in the fucking building, man. Yeah. Um damn. I I like y'all asked me earlier, bro. I I don't I don't know that many Chester people, bro. Y'all so close. That's the crazy part. Y'all so close. So I know the stories can be but so different. But I know we carry things a little different because of where we're from, but you know what I'm saying? We definitely want to tap in with you and learn a little bit about that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you, Bobby Zane, B Z. Yeah, BZ as what they call me. Okay, okay, okay. How long you been rapping, bro? Yeah, I've been rapping peripheral. I always tell people this, man, like like professionally, like maybe my my passion and stuff, I've been rapping since like 2018, 2019. Right. But the love for the music always came from my big brother, Uriah. You know for me? That's that'd been my my whole life that'd been my inspiration. You know what I'm saying? So when I see him rap like 2011, 2012, and stuff like that, when he was rapping and he had stuff going on down in Derby and everything, and people showing him love, and I looked up to him. So seeing that, it was like, yeah, like nigga, like I knew I'm about to step foot in uh into that, into that area as well, too. You know what I'm saying? But other than him, like people who motivated me to try to be rappers, like I said, like speaker knockers, P and B rock, I think those are the guys who kind of like coin my sound. That makes sense. Uh you know what I'm saying? So those two guys, those three people for real, uh to say. Um, who is Bobby Zayn outside of the music? Outside of the music, man, I'm I'm just a I'm just a guy, you know what I'm saying? Like, you feel me? Like, and I I I feel like too, like Bobby Zane and myself, like and Manina, if you will, it's not really too much of a difference. You feel me? Like, I feel like I'm always myself 25-8. It don't matter no clout, it don't matter no money, it won't matter no nothing. You know what I'm saying? I'm always myself. Like, I'm always myself. I always I'm always gonna crack a joke. I'm always gonna come up sarcastic for a lot of stuff. I'm always gonna try to turn people up, I'm always gonna show love. You feel me? So, and that's always been a problem too a lot of people have had with me. Is like people some people look at me like, yo, you supposed to be on this grander stage and you're supposed to carry yourself like this, but you you in with the crowd. Like you talking to the people under you, like you feel me? That's supposed to feel like they're under you. Yeah, no, I love it, like you feel me. I love being around people. You can always come talk to me. We I can have a conversation with somebody like I don't even know. You know what I'm saying? You can have a hundred likes, you can have two likes. You can have two followers, three followers. If you come to me like you want to do some music and I and I and I love what I hear, oh yeah, we can work. You know what I'm saying? So that's the type of person I am. Um I feel like I feel like I I I'm a I'm a like I have a good mirror of myself. You know what I'm saying? No matter what name or what what image or whatever it comes to. You feel me? I'm me 258. All right. Start a little bit from the top, like who are you, like what kind of kid were you growing up? I was an African. So, you know, like my childhood was like similar to a lot of people, but it was also a little bit different. You know what I'm saying? Because then when I go outside, I'm I'm American. I'm African American. When I'm in the house, I'm African. You feel me? So it's two different I lived two different lives as a kid, but I still live like as a child though, you know, like I was like, you know, backflipping off walls and mattresses and stuff. Like that was my vibe. I play hella sports and stuff like that. So that was me as a kid. I always been funny my whole life. So I always like, and I always been like, like, I feel like I always been like a uh people always been felt like an attraction to me. You feel me? So even as a child, like people are so comfortable. You can come and tell me your deepest, darkest secrets. And I'm 12 years old, but you know I ain't telling nobody else, and I ain't judging you. So I feel like I always had like a humble beginning, I always been humble my childhood. I always been like uh uh uh like you know, so playful, chill. That's that was me growing up, and I feel like that's still me. You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like I really changed too much from a kid till now. What was uh school like growing up for you with it with uh different ethnicity? Uh early 2000s, we talk about African booty scratcher jokes. I was one of them. That's what we talk about. You know what I'm saying? Yo, you feel me? Adorable, bro. Man, then then we hit the 2010s when being light skinned was the epitome of beauty. Oh lord.
SPEAKER_03Well, what year you graduate high school?
SPEAKER_0417. Oh, damn. Young boy. That's the opposite of the Kevin Hart man. So so I'm looking at it, so it's like you feel me. So growing up, uh being like a different ethnicity, I'm glad right now people are trying, are starting to embrace being African or even embrace the fact that you know people are African and stuff like that, being the fact that black Americans could have lineage back to Africa. You know what I'm saying? People are starting to appreciate that and welcome that in. You see a lot of people now in Kasava Leaf, trying to eat food, jellyfish. When I'm growing up in the day, man, it smelled like shit to everybody when I was growing up.
SPEAKER_01Hey, bro, I tried a goosey for the first time. It's good, ain't it? Oh my god. Hottest shit. Yeah, the hottest shit I ever had. Yeah, but yo, it's it's it's a difference. Like it's not just pain hot, it's flavor hot.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so it makes you keep eating it. Like you be mad, but it That's the reason why I can't really do African food like that, bro, because of the spice, man. I'm gonna punk mouth, bro. You gotta get to it's not spicy. I done tried. You know what I'm saying? I still was going through it. Oh man, oh man. You know what I'm saying? I had the red snapper with the rice and all. Oh, that's that'd go crazy. Exactly. But growing up like that, though, you feel me, like uh, I I I I I never really I ain't gonna say like I always felt like an eyeball out because I always make sure I fit in. You know what I'm saying? I always been, like I said, people always draw to me. It don't matter what, you know what I'm saying? I was always able to get myself, I was able to fit in where I could get in. So even growing up, you have with the jokes and stuff like that. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? You know, I was a kid, so you said too many jokes, I might punch you in the mouth. We might fight, but it would be cool tomorrow. I'll tell you that. No, y'all punch hard as shit, bro. I'm telling you now, man. I'll tell you that would be cool. Yeah, I got them strong, y'all got them that tendons to I've experienced it, man. I got in a couple scuffles, man. Definitely, I can give y'all your props. So I said that before a long time when niggas was laughing. I was serious, man. Yeah, man. I done I think I threw my own fair shares over the whole African booty scratch and shit. I ain't yeah. No. Um oh go ahead, bro. My vault. I want to uh take it back to Chester. Okay, you said that's where you from. You know, we from Philly, so I don't know much. Can you tell me what uh makes Chester different from everywhere else? I feel like Chester is its own thing, you know? And and and and and anybody from Chester tell you Chester is its own thing. I know every city feels like it's their own thing. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter where you go, you could be in the middle of the East Bumblefuck. People tell you, nah, man, this us, bro. We don't we don't are uh with everybody else, but I feel like we really is our own thing because we have a melting pot of cultures in a small city.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04You gotta think about it. We're not we're we're close to Jersey, Delaware, and Philly. You know what I'm saying? So we got we got culture from New Jersey, Delaware, Philly mix of our own, all put together. You feel me? So I feel like we really is our own thing. Like a lot, I say, like, for instance, right? We say the word drawn, right? Y'all say the word drawn, right? But we say the word babe. You know what I'm saying? Like we were describing a girl, we're like, yeah, yo, yeah, that that's the babe. Yo, okay. That's the babe from over there. I got you. They y'all don't say that. You know what I'm saying? We we got certain slam, we got certain ways of talking and stuff like that that's different from everybody else. The way we think, you gotta you gotta think about it. Philly is big as hell. Where from a four-mile city? So we have small city syndrome, but we also think big because we already we experience everything else uh uh outside of where we from. You get what I'm saying, though? So yes, we sexy walk. Y'all just got put on the sexy walk and all that other type of stuff like that. You get what I'm saying? When that well, we swag, everybody do the swag, the Delaware swag, we do that. We've been doing that in the parties. You know what I'm saying? Y'all were still doing wallies, y'all just now, you get what I'm saying, though. Yo, and and I respect that.
SPEAKER_02I was I respect all the dance. I respect anything that I'm not good at. Right. And I feel like Philly, we give this whole tough guy persona. So we don't it we just started get like you said, we just started getting into all the dancing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because my time, bro, we be lined up on a wall. Yeah, that's it. We standing on the wall, me mugging, waiting for a little shorty ugly. That's it. That's all we had in this. No two-steps, no box, nothing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I got my two-step as an adult. R City band dancing, man. R City band dancing, like two-stepping on that. We band dancing. And also, too, I can say from our city, like I say, like we sound different from a lot of people because when we go down south, they sometimes they'll miss think we're from down south. Oh, y'all sound country. But it's like, I don't think I sound country. I think I sound regular. I think he sound regular.
SPEAKER_02Your man at two. Yo, I wanted to ask him, like, are you was you from because I thought he was from Louisiana.
SPEAKER_04You know what's crazy? That's that's what they can think about.
SPEAKER_02He gives me mad Kevin Gates.
SPEAKER_04Like I said, he's freaking. But nah, like I done heard that a lot. For me, people saying, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, and I also tell people too, like, there is a Chester accent. There is a Chester accent, and there is a Philly accent, and I know the like for me, like when I see somebody, I can tell you, I could be like, you from the city, and I know what hood you're from by the type of jeans you wear. Like, I know what hood you're from by the way you dress, the way you carry yourself in my city, I know where you're from. It's not too hard to spot out. But when they come to Chester, like I said, we is our own thing. We feel like we're our own thing. And like I said, we is a big melting pot of everything surrounded about us. You know what I'm saying? It's it's a lot of uh adaptivity that you can when you come to Chester, man. You come to say you're gonna love it, man. You you you will love it, despite all the BS that be going on. If you really get with everything, yeah, you will love it, man. No, you gotta give us a little tour. Playing on it. Definitely, definitely. Did you grow up in a two-parent home? Did I grow up in a two-parent home? Uh uh nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah. I don't think I I don't think I had my dad for more than uh two years in my life. To this day? To this day. Okay. I got my dad blocked on everything. I don't talk to my dad at all. You know what I'm saying? Like any specific reason you don't mind going into that? Uh specific reason, my dad. Like, I like I look at this, right? I give parents depending on the doubt. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. With my dad, I understand sometimes my mom could be a handful. You feel me? Because she did the same thing to me. So I understand. We do understand as some. You feel me? So I understand as a man, but also too, as a man, you didn't fully play your part that you should have. You feel me? And I feel like I'm at the age where I don't think there's anything I can learn from you. You know what I'm saying? I don't think you can come into my life as life as a dad right now and teach me anything. My big brother taught me everything.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04I can always call him for advice on anything in my life. You know what I'm saying? I I could call Bird and learn something. The niggas in my neighborhood taught me how to like really be a man. You feel me? My mom taught me how to be a man, right? Because you marry God think we African. Right? So her way of thinking is as a man, as the oldest in the house currently, you have to stand up. You have to be a man, you have to, you have to do everything. You have to go get a job, even though you like 14. You know what I'm saying? You have to get you find a way to get you some money. You have to know how to pay these bills. You have to know how to get around. You have to know. So I became a man early due to the fact of my culture and not having a dad. So at this age, I don't think me and my dad can really have nothing to talk about that he could teach me because I already learned everything. I don't you weren't there when I lost my child. You weren't there when I lost friends that I grew up with. You know what I'm saying? You weren't there when I when I uh when me and my mom was facing eviction. You weren't there when I only had like two pairs of shoes. You feel me? So I don't know. Yeah, you feel me? I don't experience life. So me and you really can't talk about, so I don't feel like there's need no need for a relationship. Don't get me wrong, there's always room for an apology.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04Right? You can always come back and say, sorry, you should have did better. And I can respect that as a man and be like, yeah, you know what, cool. Right? You there's always room for an explanation. Hey, I was in the right state of mind. I I I didn't feel like I had my shit all the way together and could do this. You know what I'm saying? There's always room for that. But room for a true relationship, I feel like that's that's hard. Yeah, I'm you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm almost 30. Like, you feel me? I don't think we can. You mean? Yeah, yeah. Tapping back into your younger age, what was school like growing up? I told you, man, shit was rough, man. Like being the only African in the school, because I I ain't gonna lie, we was one of the first Africans like in the city of Chester. How it felt from my POV. You sound like Michael Blackson to me to move this uh when he first moved. Yeah, yeah, it felt like I was like the damn night the only African, like around that time in Chester. So everybody knew me. And my sister had a mouth, and she was always getting in the situation to fight. So me and my brother, we always had to go back her play and fight. You know, this back in the day, so like if your big sister's the fight, now you gotta fight the little brother and all that type of shit. So that that so so with that type of stuff, like that's how my childhood was. Um growing up and stuff like that. Also, too. Like I said, I grew up with mostly my mom. You feel me? I grew up mostly my mom, so so that so so with uh with that with that type of stuff, but like, but yeah, that was basically my childhood. Man, it was a bunch of connecting it with music. Uh-huh. Did your teachers or any of your classmates ever see your potential was you into music in school? Yeah, but I got laid in. I got I I was uh I was a shy motherfucker, man. Okay. I was a shy, I'm an overthinker when it comes to art. Oh man, I don't blame you. I'm gonna say art. I'm an overthinker. Now I'm saying I could play, I could play your son and you'd be like, this shit hot, but in my head, I'm like, no, I don't think that's good enough. Talk yourself out of it, overthink, or perfectionist overthink. It's a little bit of both. I'll try to be so perfect to the point that I'll quit. That's crazy. Real right. You know what I'm saying? Like it ain't good. Because it's not good enough. Like it ain't good enough to do that. It ain't good enough. It ain't good enough. It might be good enough to everybody else, but it ain't good enough to you. So now you don't you damn near discouraging yourself. Right? But you know you have the potential. Like my friends have been hopping on my ass. One of my friends, uh, Pop, like I remember Pop and my boy Shannon, man. Like, they was one of the first people that I showed my music to. This was like our junior year of high school. I showed them that drawing mind you, they knew I've been rapping. I don't know. When I was like 11 or 12 and 10 like that, I used to, I told you my brother we used to rap. So he made me want to rap. So we're talking about 2010, 2011, 2012, right? So I used to want to rap like him, so I'm rapping too. But I mean, so the old heads around my way, they used to like, yeah, bro, you nice with that stuff. You nice with that, man. You gotta continue. But I never felt like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't take that shit seriously. I played sports, I played board, I ran track and all that. You know what I'm saying? But when I show one of my friends, they hopped on my ass all the way, bro. They was on my ass every day. You like what you scared? Like, what you wanna, you feel me? Like you bitching and ooh, ooh, all that type of stuff. So yeah, bro. So like when it comes to the music stuff, young boy days, like I've been doing the music stuff, I've been showing my uh people did believe in me.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? And even my teachers though, they always looked at me like I remember I told one of my teachers I'm gonna be famous one day, and she said, I I believe it, because you probably just be famous just for being you.
SPEAKER_02That's what's up. Oh, my bad. You're good, you're good. Why you choose sports over uh I mean, why you choose uh music over sports?
SPEAKER_04Uh I choose music over I really chose sports over music at first. I ran, like I told you, I ran track like high school, I played ball, I love it. You know, you're a young boy, but then when it got to a certain age, you know you ain't gonna do it. I grew out of it. Okay, I got you. You know you ain't gonna be. I was in there, I feel you. You know what I'm saying? But you know you're good at saying else, though, and everybody tells you to do this, so but then once I did was able to like get gain some type of confidence too, show people my music and they fuck with it. Like, yeah, I gotta lean in this, I gotta go with it.
SPEAKER_01How your mom feel about it?
SPEAKER_04My mom is an old African woman, bro. You know what I'm saying? I like she looking like I ain't a doctor, yeah, I ain't a lawyer. That's what Godfrey used to always say about his parents. It's like ah yeah, you you could be doing better stuff at your time. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? But I know if I was to get on today tomorrow, and for me, because my mom's whole thing was I don't want to say she's too judgmental and stuff, she just wants you to be doing something, something productive, something that can gain you get you some type of money, have you on your own, and be able to like, you know what I'm saying, withstand everything that you got going on? That's all she cared about. Now I know uh Chester ain't far from Philly, and I know it's a hood everywhere.
SPEAKER_02What was it what was it like uh growing up in a hood? Like what what was survival mode like growing up? Especially with your demographic, being a minority in the minority.
SPEAKER_04I say it was like you feel me, it became you know, at first before everybody picked up guns and all that, it was always fights. Yeah. So starting early, it was a lot of fights. A lot that was when it was cooler. But I feel like a lot of the street stuff ain't really popped off around from my age group to ear later on in our years. You know what I'm saying? I remember we still used to party where everybody that motherfuckers might have problems with now today. I used to party with them, go out with them, go to events with them, hang with them, take pictures, eat with them. You feel me? So growing up, like young, young, younger days, we can still move around. I can still move around. I can still go down the street to a hood, you know what I'm saying, or this hood or that hood to the west, uh to the east side, and this and I can still do all of that. Right? But you know, but once you get older with uh people that's older than you, you know what I'm saying, you start getting programmed. You know what I'm saying? You start getting programmed. Now it's like, yo, you from here, you ain't supposed to fuck with them.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_04You from here. They folks did this to your folks. You ain't supposed to be around them. So I say a lot of times we ain't getting programmed to a lot of the bullshit to like later on in our life, but when it really came down, like growing up in uh uh uh in a city when it came to the hood stuff and back, I feel like it was kind of it, it was hard. It was hard. We had a we like I told you, bro, this was a it this was a dancing ass city for a long time. I never really looked at it like that. That's the crazy part. I'm trying to tell you, this was a dancing, you think Jot Lil Beats of all them drawers that he was giving Meek and all that? Yeah, those were all dancing beats.
SPEAKER_01He was trying to get Meek to dance.
SPEAKER_04Those were dancing, though, those were dancing beats. If you put that on right now, um uh like something like that. motherfuckers get the two step and all that all that type of like the joint where they do that at even the rose all that all that starting to make sense now for sure how did that how did that affect your music like was was that environment natural like did that environment naturally shape your music or did it become did your music help you escape it I feel like it kind of helped me escape it a little bit okay right because my music grew with me you know I'm saying like when I was younger and stuff like that I was making love songs I was gonna do heartbreak you know what I'm saying I was like you know what I'm saying like a girl break my heart today I got a song about you tomorrow you feel me but as I grew older and I'm experiencing different stuff I'm losing friends you know I'm saying I'm seeing people go to jail yeah you know what I'm saying it I'm going to funerals and stuff like I'm seeing real life shit I'm putting this in the music I'm seeing this stuff okay so I feel like I developed with my music and stuff uh and stuff like that that I feel like that's how it was with the music so my environment kind of helped create who I am today with the music you feel me in the beginning my mom didn't really like me to really be outside like that so I can only speak from what I'm seeing what I'm going through which is heartbreaking but once I started going outside and seeing real shit another oh yeah yeah I got a lot to talk about. Question is it a specific song that you did that just changed everything for you mentally like what you mean meant like on on a like people fucking with me like a like a song you did it and you was like man like this the one like I I need to I need to keep going like this the one boy yo it was murder murder murder okay man if you could when I say I had to city on lock with that song when that song dropped yo murder Bobby Zane murder. If you want you played that when I had to sit I had to city in yo boom yo they love that song and my music video was so crazy around the time I had to come to my crazy okay the sound is there bro you got the harmonies on point bro boy that's right there and I honestly been doing a little listening myself okay and a couple of a couple of songs that stood out to me was uh 3 a.m and collie okay that's a whole tape and I like um call from the trenches okay okay okay good pick so going to 3 a.m and Kali did being away from Chester change the creative mindset for you man do it okay talk to me about that where you can get away from them four walls where you can get away from that when you can get away from feeling like you trapped you can get away from your everyday seeing you know what I'm saying everything you see is the same thing every day you know something different gonna create a different mindset for you know what I'm saying you see different you're gonna be different you know what I'm saying so when I when I got a chance shout out to shout out to to to my guy DL man he gave me so many like new life experiences with just traveling and seeing uh seeing the country you know what I'm saying so when I went to Cali mind you I was in Cali for a month that's one of my favorite places bro so I I get everything you saying a whole month so when I and I didn't even come up with the name 3M in Cali my uh one of my best friends that passed away shout out my boy Tazi he came up with that name right because I made half of them songs in California I was in Cali for a whole month working so you seen the beach you seen the different type of women you seen the you know what I'm saying though you saying like it's so different like it did you gotta think about it like we we from up north you know what I'm saying we we don't really see too many palm trees and we don't really see too many like it's not really too many how put it like it ain't too many open areas up here right because most of the sky is blocked by a lot of cribs right ain't no really like too many rooms ain't no too many rooms like if you go outside right now it's a street it's a straight street right ain't no real backyard and all that other type of stuff ain't no like you walking down and you see trees all growing throughout so we know white picket fence none of that right so when you go out there even in the hood the hood in California is look kind of hard like you like damn like nigga a yard floor driveway y'all angry for and I'm sorry again weather it's a hood everywhere but a lot of y'all hoods I don't be understanding what the houses y'all got like y'all be seeing y'all in the trenches and y'all in the four bedroom with a front yard backyard porch we got road homes you feel Manchester I I done been there we got row homes 75 square 70 750 square feet that's all we got only county though they a lot of them only got one floor though so but that that's because of the uh earthquake and all that yeah but that's still cool because they got they got like what we don't get we don't get land yeah you got a lot of land they got land you got a lot of landmarks you can go to too they got that square footage if we want to go to a beach you gotta drive at least an hour and a half or two and then go see some water how was that distance for you did was the did you like get homesick did you did it make you appreciate home or did you realize that the the separation helped you tap the tap into a better person and how old were you when this I was 19 you was probably missing home no no I wasn't missing home I just wanted to get back to the hoes I wasn't worried about being home at all I wasn't worried about being home at all I was worried about hoes you know what I'm saying when they came to a certain when when it came to a certain point in my life and everything that I was going through with that man I was worried about hoes I wanted to be around some hoes 19 I wanted to be still do but uh that's the story for another day you know what I'm saying but when it came to that though like no no no right a lot happened well you know fuck Vegas don't have any Cali staying Cali at 19 though no telling bro like no and then I think I met T that night too man that nigga used some big ass words on me confused the fuck out of me I asked that nigga for a motherfucking picture I'm like yo tia because mind you the whole night was crazy right yeah we went we got to Cali when we got to the door santos at the door so we get inside we bowling with Diddy son Philly Santos Philly Santos oh shit he out he was at Cali you feel me we met him up with him up there shout out to Philly Santos then we get in then when we get inside we but we playing bowl uh we bowling with diddy son uh the one that looked just like him okay what the fuck that nigga name king or something like that yeah king combs right yeah we we we bowling with him why in the midst of bowling with him t I pop up I'm talking to TI I'm yo bro yeah I'm saying like what's up man can we get a picture of this and a third uh he starts using the big ass words on me bro like like I'm 19 I'm 19 20 running time so it's like I don't like what I don't know what the fuck he's talking about you know what I'm saying like he and then he shook my hand and all that then his daughter can't daughter bad neck the one look at him look at him look at that I used to be on the Instagram all the time boy daughter bad man they went to the back and shit like that we ended up um that's when we had we had ended up leaving like like right after that uh because we I'm like damn bro damn that but that LA was an experience for me LA was definitely an experience for me um I got a chance to go back in 2022 to go do no jumper okay and stuff like that that was that experience that was another great experience too man just being like in so on such a um in such a place where you know they have a name and it's known and all that type of stuff and being there and seeing and meeting these people like firsthand and stuff like that is it like I said bro what when you really like get in these rooms with this type of stuff right you see like these are just people too for sure you know what I'm saying so online they might be drawing or they might have some type of narrative pushing or what but you get to like no these like me nigga you know what I'm saying so that it it was a great it was a great experience man like shout out to my boy again for taking me out there and making sure I got that experience man shout out DL real rap and shout out Adam from no jumper yeah shout out too even though you're a little freaky ass nigga man he definitely is freaky ass as you refer from bro um like what's your creative process how would you break that down your creative process when you make your music when you get into it I just it gotta be on my heart gotta be on your heart it gotta be on my heart I gotta be like I gotta get this out I gotta say this I knew whatever I'm feeling right now in the moment like I gotta put this on the beat because most of my music comes from a real place. So emotions over strategy right okay I have to I like even when I'm in the booth like I make some shit that sounds cool right but if I'm just bullshitting but all the songs that I feel like I really love it came from a place where it's like nah this means something like this is a true experience of mine. You know what I'm saying? So most of my music do come from that type of place so it has to be on my heart to be like let me go in the studio let me and I record a lot of my own shit.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04So it have to be my heart for me to be like let me let me rap or something like that. But once I'm in that bag or I get off my shot. You know what I'm saying? I heard you know what I'm saying I get off my shot yeah we in the booth yeah let's go I'm ready I got a lot in the back of my mind. So like are you making pain music I'm gonna have motivation music or survival music when you say survival what you mean talking about where you came from how you had to go through this and that to get to this place. So that's all I I make all three okay all three I could tell I can see that though actually I can tell you some pain I can give you pain I can tell you about my life my life is pain. Yeah I'm saying I done been through so much shit I done seen so much shit firsthand. This is not I don't never get on the mic and rap nobody else's life this is my life you know what I'm saying when I tell you oh yeah uh when you hear in a song bro came up two glocks two different gens I lived that right you know what I'm saying when I tell you oh yeah I thought this was a dream bro called me said you died I lived that you know what I'm saying so everything I rap I lived it I seen it it happened it happened it happened now don't get me wrong something like you know you might a little fabricate like hey man listen man you mean but I will hope so happen you gotta give them the vision so yeah if I'm but you gotta add so you gotta add that element in there you gotta give them the vision without incriminating yourself yeah for sure but a lot of shit when I rap it it happened it happened like with that being said it for the person for the people that's cutting off this video when they get done what's the ones what's the first song that you will tell them to listen to you ain't out yet okay okay hopefully it'd be out before this video drives ain't out yet most of my brain most of the songs that I feel like oh go ahead no I was just gonna say like what's harder for you is it harder to be consistent or harder to actually make the music I think it's harder for I'll give a different answer. Okay I think it's harder for me to fully believe in myself okay right vulnerability all that so sometimes I look at this shit like like yes I know I could do it I'm saying I get my bag nigga ain't nobody harder than me you can't you can rap that I can't rap and I might do it better than you that's real you know what I'm saying but now I'm looking at myself like damn am I rapping it am I saying this shit the right way right am I rapping enough am I going hard enough so doubt really be way more way is play way more of an a a major part into me not dropping first anything else could we bring the doubt like I told you earlier man it's this race it's this race that we all winning uh we all running you know what I'm saying we all trying to get to the finish line right you look at this right now you wanna you wanna be one of the biggest podcasters in the world you wanna be one of them you want to be some right they might tell you yeah bro you just gotta keep going drop a couple episodes and you'll be there you probably drop two three episodes you like damn we're the traction you know what I'm saying or you or you fucking run get your first your first 10,000 2000 3000 views be like yeah niggas up from here but then they set you back the same way I told you earlier about embracing a journey I've been I stepped into the uh boxing reactions in January I did a post last Saturday that joined his edit my top post today 287k going I'm feeling like that but I don't give a fuck about that shit. Right you gotta fall in love with the journey bro right you gotta tap in with the right now I'm just having fun with it this the this just what I like to do right and I'm just showing y'all what I like to do I'm just embracing that shit and that's real shit though that's real shit like y'all said earlier too like I do need to find my love back for this right I got it bro because you hot because it really i i really look at this shit like like I said earlier bro it be life you know what I'm saying I get it if you look up fuck a bill you know fuck a bill not fuck a bill but fuck a bill I got you I got no it should it should be on bills you know what I'm saying exactly so fuck a bill but it's like to really have the time to be like yeah I can invest myself give myself this time appreciate my craft and give people something that I feel like not only me but the people around me the people who indulge in this will love it takes time with that and if you if you if you overworking yourself going to work or you overly trying to make sure you get some money in your pocket or you got all this shit going on people around you might be dying going to jail or you might have this situation going on this that and third it be hard to focus. You get what I'm saying? So like I said fuck a bill I gotta find my love for this shit once more. I have I gotta get back in that back to where I once was where it's like nigga when I wake up man where the beat where's the beats at where the studio at nigga I can rap all day today right that love ain't there no more I gotta find that I feel like until I find that I'ma still be feeling like I'm holding myself back. I ain't gonna be able to get myself 110% but it's not too far away though with um with that being said life kicking your ass outside of bills and I know what we talked about earlier like where we come from do you think the streets force you to grow up too fast? I wouldn't even say the streets I feel like the hood force everybody to grow up too fast. The hood itself yeah the hood you know what I'm saying just the hood itself and I always give people this example right when Michael Jackson died right how old was he 50 right he was 50 right we was together that day by the way in black in black people in black people world what would you consider that uh you consider that old yeah you consider that old until jay z said the 30s the new 20s 50 was old as shit no fuck what jay z talk about but period though you feel me in the black community right you consider that old right because I don't know a lot of people that live past 50 that's where I'm getting absolutely but if you look at the white people they say hey Michael Jackson died too young he was too young so when you ask like did it force me to grow up I feel like the hood force everybody to grow up by the time you're 16 17 you're a grown man in the eyes of the hood yeah right by the time you're 30 you you were old head yeah but you still young in the in the eyes of the rest of the world in the eyes of the world just now you just now touching grass you know what I'm saying but if you look at in the black community by 30 you old you're old you're washed up you're finished nigga go get your CDLs nigga you can't chase no dream that 30 this new 20 shit came out that shit came and went because when I got to 30 that shit was not 20 you feel me though so that's a monster that in the hood and you gotta think about a lot of kids are growing up fast right your mom too fast their mom ain't have it you feel me they're generation is getting faster and faster right so they trying to get it yeah you know what I'm saying and now if they can get it the generation after them trying to get it somebody trying to bring a generational curse but in the midst of everybody trying to bring a generational curse we are getting basically like running towards the curse right right you trying to you trying to get money but you trying to get in the fast way you end up that's the curse right there. Niggas now you in jail you know what I'm saying now you did somewhere now you got this going on so like like to fully answer your question I don't feel like the uh the hood I don't feel like my music or being the streets or whatever got made me grow up I feel like the hood itself made everybody around me grow up you had to think older than you was so what did you take from the hood personally on a positive note I I on a on a positive note right from the hood I took that there's family in the hood right there's family in the hood so because you gotta think about it it be niggas that they ain't from your household y'all don't got the same mom y'all don't got the same dad y'all got no blood related right but y'all was outside every day together and from y'all being outside every day together that nigga right there is willing to die about you that nigga right there willing to put his life on the line about you nigga right there willing to do everything behind you because he got that much love for you like you is a brother right but y'all not related so I feel like from the hood what I can take from that is that there's family there's a family bond there's some type of family dynamic inside the hood and that's what I feel like a lot of people don't understand right that we do take for granted because we so used to it you know I'm saying you you you used to go yeah nigga this is my boy man we go back 19 motherfucking years how many people really know niggas for 19 motherfucking years I only know a handful you get you feel me there's some type of even if it's not hood school whatever but most of the shit be in the hood you feel me from the hood you go to school in the hood so there is a family dynamic in the hood that we don't we that we underappreciate so that's why I take from the hood there's love in the hood at the end of the day you just gotta find the love that you know I'm saying that's for you there's love in the hood 100% you uh spending time in Kali no jumper uh shaking and baking have anyone back home thought you left them behind while you was winning because you only in the beginning of your game but you know once people start so start seeing that light shine they start that that imagination run wild uh you know I I say it like this I feel like um people are entitled to their own opinion of me but me personally I feel like I can never leave nobody behind the reason why I'm at where I'm at right now is because I refuse to leave anybody behind right and he'll tell me Brady tell me you know what I'm saying you gotta get this on your own nigga this this your journey you feel me so I I don't I don't I don't seen this I don't seen this but that's my heart I refuse to leave my friends behind I refuse to that's why I'm in a situation I've been in you feel me my manager when he approached me he wanted me to be the first runner of this I said no you can't no bro you had to bring my friends along I've been that type of person that's my mindset so if anybody feels like I left them behind we probably outgrew each other we probably to a point where it's like there's no return where we can't be cool no more we clash too much or we just don't get along we didn't we're not on the same journey as I thought we once was so we pass that now right and I'm older now right so if anybody feels like I left them behind at this age they can get you a fucking job. That's a statement that reflects on growth man yeah you got to you know what I'm saying but that's the whole thing though it comes to it from eventually you have to leave the hood behind or you're gonna be stuck in that motherfucker the rest of your life yes sir so yeah was you ever ten toes down in the streets down I wasn't a dabble I was a face okay I'll say that like I'm not I'm not the nigga who always trying to be outside trying to push a pistol you know what I'm saying I ain't that nigga who always outside trying to cause violence right but I'm a known face for my neighborhood like if you think about my hood you're like yeah oh you know the boy from you know B Z from up there yeah you know me you know what I'm saying you feel me and always been always been the type of person too where you know they wanted me to stay away from all of that they wanted me to they looked at me I was the ticket nigga I I wake up and I could and I could bring people around I could bring I could bring other hoods up our hood and ain't nothing gonna happen because B Z here. Yeah you know what I'm saying we can go places and it's like nigga B Z here. I'll fuck with B Z I'll fuck with y'all is love. So I ban that type of person but don't get it twisted don't get it too twisted you mean but what I'm saying is like I'm not I wouldn't say I was 10 toes but I uh I always supported my brothers 110% what was uh what was worse for you losing losing the people in the hood or losing the friends on your way up losing the people like when you say losing the people in the hood like what you mean like to anything that can happen in the hood bro violence moving away whatever happens in the day to day life these are the people in the hood that I lost were the people who was with me on the way to the top you know I'm saying I never separate I never separated myself from where I'm from where I'm from is me you know what I'm saying so 258 257 I'm Bobby Zane no matter where I'm at You know what I'm saying? Like I told you earlier, right? I'm Bobby Zayn and Minima Johnson at the same time. There's no difference. There's no difference for me, right? You know what I'm saying? I'm not the nigga who I'm not the the the you know niggas like to separate self. Oh, look at number when I'm a rapper, bro. I gotta make sure I'm nigga. You can see me noble haircut, nigga. I'm in flip-flops, nigga. I'm African. I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04I'm about you see me. What's up, baby? You up nigga. As long as I'm gonna smell like shit, I'm cool.
SPEAKER_03I don't wanna do that.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? As long as I'm gonna smell like shit, nigga, I'm cool. I'm gonna give a fuck about no cut, nothing. Like I get a cut when I need to, when I feel like I gotta have to, when I when I need to do something, other than that, I'm chilling, I'm doing me. I'm me 25. So the people that I did lose on the way up, I feel the same way about the people that I lost in there because they are the same people, they are the same people. You know what I'm saying? Now we really want to get into details about the shit. I lost my brother. I lost my brother uh uh Bucks. That's my dog, right? That was my fucking boy. That's my boy. We we the same. I was born in '99, he was born in 2000. We the same, you know what I'm saying? Same age. You feel me? We grew up together. I seen everything he seen, whatever he experienced, I experienced it. You know what I'm saying? And you know, you know, you growing up, there's still little clicks and stuff like that. So we wasn't in the same click. We was like seven, eight, nine, ten. But once we got to that age of where we could, you know what I'm saying? We all hanging out. I got love for Bucks. When I lost him, I nigga, I should have hurt my soul. What happened? Uh he was killed in his crib. My condolences. You know what I'm saying? So, Bucks, you feel me? Even prior to even prior to my man's Bucks. Like, I tell people this, like, right, my life is full of so much, so many, so much trauma, right? It's a blessing I can still smile. Absolutely. Did you lose anybody that's still here? That's still here? Yeah, that's still breathing. Yeah, it's a lot of friends that I feel like I can't fuck with no more, right? We on two different mindsets. We think differently, we're not the same, right? I grew up, you did. Right? It's a lot of people like that that I feel like, no, we ain't on the same page. It's all love. I don't hate you. I I wouldn't wish nothing about you. But nigga, I can't hang with you. That's a real thing. You don't think like me no more. You don't you don't think how I thought you thought. You feel like people support you more when they finally see the motion? I feel like people support me more when they meet me in person. Okay. Right. And they feel your energy evolved. They see, oh, he's a real person. He a real dude. Okay. When you meet me in person, it's different because I could be anybody behind the screen. Yeah, that's the thing nowadays. Right. But when you see me in person and I get up close to you, and you realize, oh no, no, no, no, no. He ain't he ain't trying to act like he's too good for nobody. He is who we thought he was. Right. I'm a person first before I'm anything else. I'm a human first before I'm anything else. You know what I'm saying? Like, I I I'm big on humanity. You know what I'm saying? If I got 10 hours in my pocket as a homeless guy on the street, nigga, you can have five. Respectfully. If I'm with somebody right now and I got a dollar, nigga, we can go 50 cent, 50 cent. Or we can share a big bag of whatever the fuck I get. So I'm big on humanity. So I like to show my human sides first prior to anything. I don't, I don't really look at uh that's what I'm saying. Like people, like people draw closer to me when they meet me first. You know, man, you don't ever met a motherfucker and they tell you, yo, people was wrong about you. You know, what the fuck would they say about me? Back back back to get on Chester just a little bit. What's one misconception that people have about Chester? Yo, I'm gonna say this right here, y'all, and I'm looking y'all straight in y'all eye. We're from Chester. We don't claim to be from Philly, we don't try to be from Philly, we don't even associate ourselves with Philadelphia. 99.9% of Chester, when you ask them where they're from in any other city, they will tell you I'm from Chester, Pennsylvania. Now, when you know a lot of people do not know where Chester is from, so they're gonna say to you, where is that at? That's when we mention Philly, right outside of Philadelphia. I got you on that. You know what I'm saying? I can't say that from Delaware though. Them niggas want to be Delaware. That's the only misconception. I had to clear that we don't want to be Philly, we not from Philly, we know we're not from Philly, we don't really relate too much to Philly on a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like we are a true self-25. Somebody who's really from Chester, they are the true self 25-8.
SPEAKER_02I think this is a self-explanatory question based off your statement, but I want to ask it anyway. Do you think Chester gotta work twice as hard to prove themselves? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04We never had a rapper that really blew up from the city. We never had one. Shout out to C or MC, y'all almost came out of it. That was a group. Check out Jitter. Two nice ass, great rappers. Shout out Jitter, they almost was there. You know what I'm saying? We never had a rapper. Shout out to y'all little beats. He really he kicked that door down to make it. You feel me? When they come to Chester, we good at sports. Y'all know us for that. I know you know Jimmy Nelson. I got oh, that's my guy. But uh, y'all got a lot of hoopers. Yeah, but when they come to work, we have to, especially in the in the entertainment business. We have to. We are a little pee in the state of Pennsylvania. We're a little. I heard you bring up Jalo Beats. Jalo Beats. Talk to me about that experience. Oh, that's my boy, man. I fuck with Jalo. I fuck with J'allow. I still fuck with Jalo. That's my dog. You know what I'm saying? I feel like Jalo, Jalo Jalo is a great person, man. You feel me? He he uh he's a hard worker, um, great entrepreneur. I think he does entrepreneurship, but you know, he makes his own beats, right? So you feel me? He he definitely ended up. Me and him had uh, I ain't gonna say we had, I feel like it's the connection still there of what we got going on. Uh, when shit makes sense, shit gonna make sense.
SPEAKER_01When you first got around him, what was on your mind when you first realized, like, damn, um I'm now in the presence of people in the industry.
SPEAKER_04Man, I could have jumped up, clicked my motherfucking heels. You know what I'm saying? It's like, damn, this is a city legend, bro. This is a city legend. Like, this is a nigga who won a Grammy, who been who helped uh Meek Mill career, and you know his little brother um made the beat for one of the biggest Philly songs ever. Dreams and Nightmare. Facts. You feel me?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I look at that Johnny like nigga, he is a he's a he's a he's an idol in the music scene. Facts. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02How did he uh how did he affect your uh approach approach to your music creativity?
SPEAKER_04He got a let's do it attitude. Like he's a let's do it person, right? So it's like let's do it. You know what I'm saying? It's not like let's wait, it's like let's do it, let's go on, let's do it. So I get in that that's that's the type of person he is. Uh he's a but he also like a real strategic thinker, you know? He likes to think. He wanna make shit, he wanna make sure shit makes sense. 25-8. That's it, he'll get he'll get the thinking on your ass, nigga. Like, he'll get deep thought. What's something that you could take take away from working with him? Work ethic. That's why he's always working, he's always doing something. Oh, even though you feel like he's not doing something, he's doing something. Jalo Beats, holla at me. You know what I'm saying? Holla at me. So that's what I take from Jalo, man. I feel like he got a strong work ethic, man. He's always working, he's always doing something. It's always something going on with him. He's always traveling, he's always, even if it's not making beats, he's out there with his kids, uh promoting them and turning them up and stuff like that. So yeah, he's he's a he got work ethic to him.
SPEAKER_02Did working with him boost your confidence? Or speaking from something that you said earlier, did it take that, did it show you that the goalpost was further away?
SPEAKER_04When I was working with working with Dallas, it boosted my confidence 100%. It made me look at shit like shit is possible, right? Because now you in the room with the people who have made it. Hold on to that, my brother. I'm the same area from you. Like, you from my city, you you you from where I'm from. I seen, I seen you, I seen your journey, I seen you do it. I seen you walk on that stage and win a Grammy, and I seen it happen firsthand. So it made it like, nigga, this shit is possible. This is possible. I could do this. You know what I'm saying? So I I I definitely say that. Like he made it, he made it feel possible. What was the difference working with him on an industry level than working um independently on an up and coming? I wouldn't say really too much of a difference. It really wouldn't much of a difference because at the end of the day you still gotta get there. Right? So it don't matter if you're in the industry or out the industry, you still have to get there. You could be signed today for a million dollar deal. Yeah, you have the money, but if you're as long as they popping up, you you a million dollars in the whole.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04So do you think talent is enough? Talent is never enough. If talent was enough, it'd be a lot more famous people in the world. Even with sports, it's never enough. They ain't never paying off. Hard work. You know what I'm saying? Hard work is is is what gets you there. But right now in today's day and age, it's marketing. You have to get there. Have you ever been pressured to change your sound? You ain't even going to. No, he ain't compromising. I don't feel like I need to change my sound because my sound is my sound is the wave. Okay. My sound is the wave. You know what I'm saying? When they come when you listen to everybody in the radio, you know what I'm saying? Prior, and you listen to everybody, a lot of people in the city prior to me. They ain't sound like how they sound now. That's nothing. People don't want to give me my flowers when they come to that. Nigga, I checked, I made that shit cool. Don't get me wrong, there was people a little bit earlier than me that was kind of trying to get on that. You feel me? Nigga, I popped up, made that cool. Nigga, I mean you could sing on the track, you could do that. Ain't I was doing drill and doing party music and shit like Dan Swaggin. I wasn't doing that. I was singing my fucking heart out. So I don't feel like I need to change my sound because I feel like my sound is the way. And right now, currently, if you look at everybody, look at every young boy, look at Lil Dirk and all of them. Like that's this the shit they want to hear. Harmonizing reset. Yeah, Roblox, low cap, all that. So I feel like my sound fits with today's day and age music and all that type shit. I feel like I'm on the right path when it comes to uh sonically. Question. So we're here for a reason. Well, a specific person got us here tonight. Uh so we want to shout out Bird, my guy Bird. Big Bird. I want to ask you, like, what does Bird mean to you, bro? Uh, that's my dog, man. Um I I I give him his flowers. He's one of the people that always kept me like level-headed and everything. Like, you feel me? Like, outside of you for me. I feel a lot of people don't even know how far me and Bird relationship go. Relationship really go. Like, I could call Bird and talk about anything. We could talk about whatever. It's it's a no-judgment zone when me and him have a conversation. It should be when you feel like that. So I don't ever have to feel like I'm called, you know how you would call somebody where you like you gotta walk on the ice around them and how you talk to them. They might take what you say back to another motherfucker, or it might be a little, I don't gotta do that with him. I can say whatever. We could we could talk, we could talk, we could hold the conversation. And I know at the end of the conversation, there's not gonna be no bad advice at the end of it, right? It's not gonna be yo, grab this pistol and go handle your business. So no, it's a better way than that. Yeah, you got you better than this, you bigger than this, you could do something for you with yourself. So, like the love and the advice always been there, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, like you feel me, I knew Bird the majority of my fucking life. But when I finally got a chance to actually like be able to hang out with him and talk to him and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? I'm like 19, 19 years old around the time. We really got a chance to talk. We sat at the park and we talked two, three hours. Right? Because prior prior prior to us even talking, you feel me? He used to tag me, like, yo, I'm listening, I hear your songs. Your songs is getting sent to me.
unknownRight?
SPEAKER_04You from the neighborhood, I'm from the neighborhood. I'm hearing this. Well, when we got a chance to talk, and he told me, yo, I'm outside, come to the park. I came outside to the park. We sat there, we talked for two, three hours. Two, three hours. Really talk, like a deep conversation. And when we get on the phone, the routine never changes. It's always a two, three-hour conversation.
SPEAKER_03Right. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Even though we have to talk in circles, because we can talk in circles, and it'd be new information that we ain't even we ain't even say the first time. It could be new advice we ain't gave the first time. It could be uh new points we ain't make the first time. You feel me? So it gets like that. So I do appreciate Bird like 100%. Like he do play major when it comes to mental health and just looking for an outlet for an advice, you feel me? Like Bird really salute to Bird, man. Shout out to Bird.
SPEAKER_02Shout out, definitely shout out to Bird because he connected us. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I want to uh touch on a little sensitive topic if you don't mind. Yeah, go ahead. Because I know you experience some real pain, losing your daughter. So I definitely want to uh tilt my hat off to you, give you my respect, my condolences. Can you tell me how much did that loss change you as a man? Now, what I can say to that is like that laws play a major part in where I'm at right now today, as a man, as a person, as a father, as a as a son, as a person in general. You feel me? That laws played a major part. Because a lot of people always like, you know what I'm saying? People don't know where the drinking really came from. You feel me?
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04They'll look at me like, yeah, you get lit. You get lit. Yeah, BZ, he be running, BZ, turn, B Z. Let's talk about it though, right? My drinking really started because I had stage fry as a rapper. Alright? Like, I'm nervous, bro. I don't want to be on this, I gotta be out my mind to perform. Call it that the call of that liquid confidence. You know what I'm saying? Once it got to that, it was like, all right, cool, yeah, man. I like being lit, we then I lost one of my best friends that I've been knowing since I came to America. Tahir. I lost him. Wait, pause. You wasn't born here. I was about to ask you. No. Damn. Nah, I was born in Liberia. Okay, so you off the boat. You first, you, you are the generation. Yeah, yeah. I'm straight, I'm straight from Liberia. My cellar, like my little my little sister and little brother, they born, but you know, I'm from Liberia. Like, yeah, what when did you come here? Oh five. How old were you? Six. Six. Wow. Yeah, I've been here my whole life. So Taz is one of my first friends. So losing him, that kind of turned my drinking up a little bit. That'll do it. Then you go on, then we lost Nate. That turned it up a little bit more, too. Lost Nate first. You lost a lot of homies, young. I could give you a timeline. Matter of fact, let me give you the timeline, right? We started like this. 2019, right? One of my biggest years, my music and shit like that, when I was really turning up. September of 2019, I lost Nate, my old head. You feel me? That's the nigga who watched me grow up my whole fucking life. Feel me? That shit that should burn. Feel me? Then I lost my boy Twin. Mondra, his brother died in 2017. His twin brother died in 2017. I lost him in 2019. He was going out there doing something for his brother in 2019. They were twins, both dead right now. So we go from September to November. September I lost Nate. November I lost twin. Then we go all the way back into um. That's you cool? Yeah, you're good. Alright, cool. Then we go back. Is it better? No, it ain't true. Oh, alright. Then we go back into um, so we go what? September Nate, November 20, then we go February, right? February 2020. We go Tazzy. You know what I'm saying? Keep up now, it's a lot. We go prior, my fact, let me go, let me draw it all the way back. We go, we go, we go Skriller 2017. I'ma go, I'm gonna go 2019, I'm gonna start 2019. We go Paris, you know what I'm saying? I think she she got sick, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, ladies and we got we uh she got sick, she passed away, uh she passed away April of April 20 uh 19. Who was she to you? That's my dog, man. That's my dog. That's one of my dogs. Like, she was uh I we used to be like, yeah, that's my boo, that's my bay, and all that type of shit. You know, all of these people is people in your state. These are people that I had genuine love for. So we go to April 20 2019, then we go to September 2019 when Nate passed away. We go to November 2019 when um uh when uh what's his name? Uh when Twin passed away. Long live my boy um A B. Then we go, then we go to uh we go to February. My best friend, one of my best friend Tazi, he passed away. You know what I'm saying? So now we in 2020. Um then we go to the uh what is it? Then we go to the end of 2020. What Suey? We go to Suey, you know what I'm saying? Then we get in love. Then we get into 2021. Let's get into 2021. My little brother, Blue Barry, you know what I'm saying? He died on my birthday, February 21st, 2021. Then we get two months after that I lost my baby girl, April, on my mom's birthday, 2021. Then we get to the end of 2021, I lost one of my old head, Juicy. Uh then we get into 2022, I lost my dog Bucks.
SPEAKER_06How did you process all of this, bro? Like, how, like, how for you to keep all of that together and still be here looking looking strong, looking good.
SPEAKER_04How? Mind you, and that's just off from 2019. I go for 2017. You know what I'm saying? I lost Skriller and Malak. Feel me. But to answer your question, nigga, you gotta get up. You gotta keep going. You gotta keep going. Well, you can't let life, you can you, you, you dictate how your life goes, even when there is obstacles. You dictate that. You dictate if you're gonna deal with these obstacles and find a solution, or you're gonna let that shit whoop your ass. What did them losses do for you and how did they change you as a man? Mentally fuck me up. Yeah, of course. But they also turn me up, right? You can't stop because these are the people you have conversations about being rich with. These are the people you have conversations about doing better for, right? So now they pass, but they couldn't take you in your journey. What you what you gonna do? You gonna sell your ass or you gonna get the fuck up? Hey, bro, remember that when the goalposts go further. You're right. When the goalposts keep mushing, you uh moving, you gotta keep moving with it. Remember that. Yeah, right. So that statement right there. So yeah, bro, like I like like I say, bro, with all that, like mentally, like I tell people, like, yeah, nigga, I like to drink, I like to get lit, this, that, and third. But the reason why is because I done been through so much shit, right? And I'm not looking for an outlet to talk. I don't like to bleed on other people.
SPEAKER_03I got you on that.
SPEAKER_04You feel me? Yeah, my problems is my problems. I got you. And I know that, and I know that guy ain't never put too much on my plate. Yeah, he won't. You know what I'm saying? Ain't too much on my plate. Ain't too much on my plate. I'm still good. I can still wake up today, do 10, 20, 30 push-ups, nigga. And be cool. I can still walk. I got life in me. I can make a change today, tomorrow. So why stop? Why, why, why let my my path, why let my past, right, dictate my future. When I'm in control of that. Did any of that make success look different for you? Uh it makes it it makes winning, it do make winning look different. Right. Because it's like, now the people you wanted to win with ain't here. Right? So now you're looking like, yeah, nigga, we're gonna get this championship when we get the championship, everybody can get a ring. You holding up Memorial jerseys. You ain't holding up, you ain't with the motherfuckers holding up trophies, you got jerseys in the stand and remembrance. So it's a different ball game, man. But but like I said, I don't never let too much of that really dictate how I act, but I guess too, this is why I do drink a lot, and I was drinking a lot and trying to cope because I never had an escape. I never had a chance to really talk to nobody, and I don't want to talk to nobody because I understand everybody got their own shit going on too in life. That's the hard part. You feel me? I can't sit here and try to trauma dump on you or you or Bird or anybody else, and I don't know what you're going on in your life, nigga. You could be on your fucking breaking point today. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You could not to say it like that, but you could leave here today, nigga, and we never see you again. That's a problem because like some people just do it. Like, I think you should ask first before you even get to that. You know what I'm saying? Yo, you good today? How you doing? All right, can you mind if I, you know what I'm saying? Right, then go from there, but don't just bam bam. And I experienced that from a lot of people, bro, and like it got to a point in my life where I was burnt out, dog. And I didn't know, man, until like I started going through shit myself. And everything else that you know I was taking in from other people, it all started to affect me at one time. I just started crashing down, bro. I was like, I'll never let myself get to that point again. Like, please. And I like I like for people to honor that too, you know what I'm saying? To this day, I'm still saying this out loud, like on the podcast, be mindful. I just had a crazy three-year stretch, bro. I don't look like you probably wouldn't even can tell, like I've been through shit, but I have, you know what I'm saying? And I'm you know, looking forward, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, I don't want people to think that, you know, they can go back to the dumb shit because you can't leave me out of it.
SPEAKER_02And going off a head, well, he said, like, bro, in the last Bird asked what brought us together.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And I think I know now. My man went through physical changes in the last three years. I went through mentally, mental changes in the last five years.
SPEAKER_01And I feel like that that that shit just connected us on a different level.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And you know, pain of bringing motherfuckers together too. For sure. Especially a relationship, uh, uh, uh, uh a relative thing that y'all can relate on, or something that you feel like, yeah, nah, we're not going through the same shit, but I feel like we feel the same way.
SPEAKER_03My mentor was fucked up.
SPEAKER_04We changing the same way. Feel me? And that but that's why it's made it hard for me to stop drinking because the motherfuckers who I was drinking with going through the same shit I'm going through. When I lost my kid, niggas who was friends with me, they felt like, you know what I'm saying? the same pain I felt they hanging with me it was hard right you feel me they turning up with me they want me to stay in a good mood because they helped them stay in a good mood right when we lost our friends and all they they turning up with we all turning up we all going through the same shit through the same come on man this shit get deep you feel me so yeah man where you at mentally today I'm straight I'm better off now I'm better off I feel like I feel like I cope better now I cope better now I I I don't have to drink every day like I once did I don't have to get lit every day like I once did you know what I'm saying I can sit the motherfucker down I can sit down and chill I'm gonna tell you the truth 2021 right heartbreak situation which is something like I never experienced on that level like living with a person y'all gotta separate type shit on some nut shit so that was when I had my craziest from 21 to 22 bro when I tell you bro because when I first started potting I had liquor every episode I mean we was getting lit every episode like I I came a long way from that I'm telling you bro I stopped having liquor in the crib type shit for a while because the shit I was doing it was like every day bro I was turning up on the weekdays everything going to work like nothing happened. And in the beginning it was like you know I was coping what I was going through because you know like you said bro you don't really know how to approach people but I had some people that was there for me like I ain't going front but at the same time you still going through what you going through and then you know like when you do shit like that it's like a life shift bro because like you put so much into this one situation and you gotta backtrack and do a whole 360 basic so I was fucked up. I was drinking my pain away but that's what I'm saying though even even with that though you feel me like you can expect like you feel me and I and and I think you come in the same I don't expect people to like ask me about my trauma. I don't expect that I don't expect people to be there for me right because I look at shit and nigga we all got something going on you feel me like I said like bro I don't like come on bro I woke up to the news that my one of my one of my big bros killed himself and how did I know that he was gonna do that how did we know he was gonna do that what call and talks is he having with niggas like yeah he's gonna do that shit bro we gotta watch out for him and that be the thing bro niggas be walking around smiling and shit I used to walk around like nothing was going on right old time bro it shit was I had them same thoughts so it is it is good to check it is good it's a hundred percent good to check on your folks right we do that but that's what I'm understanding but also ain't too good at trauma dumping motherfuckers because people going through their own shit too it's a way to go yeah it gotta be some type of middle ground yeah right and you feel a lot of people when they get lit they they more open nothing wrong with if a person start you can tell them to stop like yo not today you know what I'm saying come back yeah maybe tomorrow we can try again I'm not I'm not there today you know it's but you really listen just for like a little bit and then try to change the subject to happier something like it's some people do be pushing it right but yeah but you ain't about to but you ain't about to talk my head up for no two motherfucking hours about how you feel bitch I got feelings too y'all date the women especially sorry y'all I got feelings too y'all be OD and y'all be overly with it motherfucker think you hate women if you put some logic into a conversation more don't don't even get me they gonna cancel me this can I get another like nah they might if I yours bro cutting up bro just some time bro because I got some rapid fire questions for you bro man axe axe axe we here we here let me see man I just down let me see favorite rapper of all time that's a hard question to answer for me it's a hard question because right now in a little minute my favorite rapper been future okay rapper future but when it comes to like when it comes to game drops since uh Metro Calais right he buy he on the way I follow all the fan pages you know that's leak man I follow the fan pages he on the way no future oh yeah yeah yeah yeah leak leak big future bull future in the way I follow the fan pages that DS2 wave bro come this like that little couple three four years ago 56 nights oh my god 30 stories in the style phone my mind crazy because when I first heard future was when y'all was down south of Benedict I'm curious y'all came up there playing that shit man I said man get this shit out of here because we was on him when before before he got hyped Hinnam and it was we we was doing this the Joe with T I was not Hinnematic was Tony Montana Tony Martina Tony Martin was doing it. I ain't gonna lie I was like get this shit out of here took me a while yeah but right now right now currently man you asking the goat man is it's definitely huge but if I break it down and I know a lot of people gonna hate me for this like at the greatest of all time when it comes to lyrics is I go big L. That's my pop favorite artist I go big L I can't go Jay Z Jay Z ass. Damn Kev cut the kick cut look cut it off that's what I'm saying I know niggas are getting mad at me but Jay Z is so shit like he not ass like he just so ass right but no you no y'all not gonna gaslight me to think DJ is the greatest rapper on the channel no I'm not getting gaslit into that I'm taking big over big L I'm sorry over big L I can't listen to that shit I tried so many times to listen to that motherfucking album that he got which one the one album that everybody knows I don't even know the name that's how bad it was I just can't get with the sound brofe after death or something like that no not big I'm talking about big L album I know all biggie shit uh okay okay I like fat boy rap so it makes sense what the fuck is that album exactly he don't even know about heart I don't know about big L and that's his nigga y'all got no y'all y'all got no similarities but I get it the big picture the big picture the rap the the don't rap like that the Harlem way though he had a crazy flow the hard he said and yo you better flee hops or get your head flown three blocks L keep it wrapped up uh like re but why he don't sound why do you why he don't sound why he don't sound like the other rappers in uh Harlem they dicking him jay Z Jay Z took big L sound oh no no no you think 110 took jazz o sound he took big L sound he took big L sound you go to the 93 freestyle with him and uh uh big L and Jay Z. He was trying to rap like big L. He was trying to keep up big L so big L is the greatest storyteller of all times you ever heard of uh the heist and all that let me see sign listen real closely how I break this language check it for we smoke is my lie Ikea coke is the pie when I'm lifting I'm hot with new clothes on the cars is whips it sneakers this kick I said he had to flow movies and splits no cribs and tones and you gotta think that's uh 90s is 2000 is you know who I like over diamonds is rocks and shakes A Double cross you got fucked the bank roll is the yo big out's the greatest rapper of all time he just never got fixed he never got changed to those he got killed in that and it's crazy uh I just uh watched a video on him big out the polls allegedly the people that killed him was out to hunt his older brother they're trying to kill his brother his brother was drawing and it's about two in the morning for sleep the first I want for Daddy to eat I can't I can't believe he got us listening to this shit bird so I something is the heat under the sink then I gotta beat my voice is talking about the height on the who the fuck with me back in this job the storytelling right here I'm fucking with it in the front and make sense kind of foam after hollow they get it's my wife dude yo we doing a poll on the grain tomorrow this is Tony's story before Tony's story yeah we're doing a poll on the grain tomorrow big L or Biggie I want all the old heads to tap in 40 up tap in the I might be taking a big L I'm not talking about nice I gotta turn it off now big L nice I don't even like big L over mixed I'm not a big cause because you know niggas a fake ass preacher we doing that I got to do with it with his Tupac over Biggie so I was never a Biggie fancy you know what's crazy you know what's crazy I'm a huge Pac fan myself no I'm a those but I gotta give it when it comes when it comes to lyrics Biggie got it though I have him I'm a huge Pac fan you gonna give a one album Biggie two albums from Biggie to the whole Pac collection and say he over I ain't gonna lie juicy over a lot of shit Pac dropped what lyrically bro big man big talk that bad boy rap man I'm sorry Biggie had a lot Biggie knew how to fucking spell he said a lot of weird freaky shit I don't I don't agree with I didn't know we was going back in the 90s we ain't even gonna repeat that bar we all we all know the bar we cool you say you look so good huh talk cut it right there you look so good huh nah the train never thought bitch looked that good nigga I got one for you meek or beans I gotta go all right all right I'm gonna say I'm I'm I'm gonna show my age again right I gotta go with Meek okay right only cuz I didn't really grow up on on on beanie things like that I ain't gonna I ain't gonna I ain't gonna cap and from our move like yeah because yeah his last studio drawn was like 07 like actual drawing where yeah but then the shit don't make sense but I'm telling you that I'll fuck with Big L. He died in 99. I get it and I was born but you also only had one body work to go off of so you only had to listen to one body work for Big L.
SPEAKER_01So I get it but I never was like don't get me wrong you feel me uh beans had that one song what the fuck is that shit that everybody knows don't say it like don't say it like that one song can't tell me nothing different uh those twitching I'm beans guy all the way but I've say meek because you know we grew up on the meek freestyle we grew up on you know what I'm saying all that when meek was popping and I told you Chester's a dancing ass I'm circling block beans got nothing we dancing to in Chester no he got he got a uh he one joint he was on what he's on you know saying beans ain't got shit niggas tooth into this shit pain bro spidey my spidey so angling got my radars up the audience we know they didn't already they didn't bro feel funny can't tell me nothing different my nose twitching intuition setting the like steve vision I still close my eyes I still see visions in the back of my mind so what I do I still take ease I still listen I still paint that perfect picture I still shine bright like a prism my words still skippin' I know you can't don't won't get it you niggas chose the ride that should stop with it still a flu I ain't the captain of the yacht but I'm on the boat but I'm not knowing that I don't you niggas actin' like you will but I know you won't whatever I see the lines of the eyes of your brow your hand shake the slap I got the nigga join I got a nigga join that that really used to have me we got this I think I'm gonna cap like I don't fuck with um oh man the fucking speech that he put on the end of this job cool hearted too bro he said don't ask me if them niggas around me if they ain't in the picture with me now the thing I'm gonna try I need to send to cheese I need some people I got it good if I'm Robin Hood nobody ones I fed me on the nice when you was doing it if you think I'm looking something nigga on the head treat you like I never knew you put it on your head what it got poppy on my line like you coming home my mama see it in my face she know that something wrong I gotta chill cause I love this whole song but I don't bell but I still got y'all listen like six times in a row last week you might get left you make that right when we got left wasn't right that life corner but that jet we like three people right now they know studio day or performance night performance night okay performance I did you know it's crazy yo I like I be like even when it comes to the music shit man I miss when I was performing you get on that stage and this motherfucker in the crowd know your songs and all that type shit or even if they don't know your song but they so locked in that shit so hot nigga they they look at you they get that grimy face going man I remember I had a funny ass moment we uh we did the film more it's a nut ass a no no it's like a nut ass moment though it's a nut ass moment I'm in the joint you know we all rapping this and third everybody coming up yo bro fuck with your son woo the woo the woo yeah bro you feel me check me out woo the woo man this little ass girl walk up to me telling my son oh my god can I get your number how old is you you can get my grandma I'm 15 just be a fan if I smoke if I smoked a black I would have hit it no just be a fan little sis hell no but that's the type shit that was going on though like when you rapping like but like don't stray away like I said be a fan little sis because you gotta think them them uh dancing niggas D sturdy too rare and all that that's their fan base so you gonna have fans that's younger than you way younger than you but that was back when I was making like a little more turnt up music I was making more turned up like believe me and all that if you you know I'm saying like all that type I was making one more turn to music so it was that but no I ain't but that that's a lifestyle as a rapper that shit used to be crazy though man I'm trying to tell you bro I don't I done seen it all yeah I done seen every part of being a rapper from bitches now they even get all like you mean I get it but from bitches to niggas hating on you to people showing love to I don't see I done experience all of that to be in a room with niggas whose is up there and all that I done seen it.
SPEAKER_04To niggas treating you like you ain't never did shit or you ain't never I done seen it you feel me what's your dream feature that nigga dead yeah I like to do some speaker knockers or P M B okay they were my two for they were they were like my two inspiration besides my brother okay RLP speaking knockers RLP PNB but other than that right now Roddy Rich okay that's a good one I fuck with Roddy Rich. I don't know he on the same type I'm type I'm on we both just stopped dropping music in 2020 2019 2020 we just stopped we was drawing there wasn't he did he did he ever drop that blue tape something with blue nah he never dropped anything that shit got pushed that shit got pushed back in the shelf 19 times yeah Roddy Rich I fuck with Roddy Rich man that was one of my favorite rappers I remember that was one of my favorite rappers yeah I I I'm a Rowdy that's why I asked about the album like I definitely was following him for a little minute rich or famous right now rich younger famous I'd rather what trace on saying one of them taste better I'd rather be rich without the famous nigga facts I'm rich right now rich I'm older now I got I got some I got some sense to me I'd rather be rich give me some fucking money and let me get out of everybody way favorite sneaker all time my favorite sneakers all time I know everybody gonna go with the forces it ain't that it ain't that I don't think I got a favorite sneaker all time what's going on track type drones basketball no basketball I'm gonna hair day hoops hyper dunks and shit hyper dunks and cargo Russell Westbrook some of the things I remember some uh some cargoes and some D Roses I'm saying Luca is the greatest basketball player right now broke Lucas be funny I don't rock no fucking Lucas I don't wear no goddamn Lucas oh shit but he trying to be funny but I do feel like Lucas is the is the best basketball player in the league right now my my personal I'm a Dallas fan oh man Mavericks Mavericks Mavericks I got I know I gotta differentiate because I was a cowboy y'all might jump me oh man I would one word for your current season what you mean like the season that you win in life I feel like growth is so cliche but it's growth it's growth it's definitely growth I'm learning like how to be a better me pushing 30 bro yeah you know what I'm saying I'm learning how to be a better me how to be a better adult how to handle situation better how to deal with people better how to deal with my daughter better how to deal with life better how to handle everything around me better I'm growing as a person right because I'm the I'm the same nigga that came from anger management class growing up you feel me I'm the same nigga that 2020 2021 nigga I'm ready like yeah what who said what let's go get him today I'm that same nigga but I'm at the point where like nigga it's better ways like I tell people no bro I'm at the age bro I can't do no less than two years in jail and I don't want to go to jail but ain't nobody about to tell me I got I'm doing some dumbass shit now I got a Dom that's ridiculous. What oh hell no my my last one for you bro is are you still motivated in life yeah music no you gotta find a way to tap back in then in life I'm motivated as fuck I gotta make sure my I gotta make sure my daughter cool I gotta make sure I'm cool I gotta make sure everybody around me everybody if if I can help I I gotta make sure they cool you feel me I got a question or two for you what's more dangerous envy or hate I feel like envy envy is way more dangerous because if a motherfucker hates you not to my time to hate you with a chest and that shit in your face it's like yeah nigga I fucking hate you bro I don't nothing to do with it. Envy nigga I can love you can't see that shit I don't know bro like surprise somebody I look at that like that's way worse like I would never like you feel me you know that's but that's but but but hate versus envy I feel like that's what created the term you know what I'm saying of uh friend of your enemy is a friend of you you feel me because it's like I rather know exactly what's going on right I'd rather like yeah nigga I don't fuck with you and that's the type of person I am if I don't rock with you nigga man can't nobody tell me to fuck with you I don't give a fuck no I don't fuck with this nigga so with with that being said do you feel like loyalty still exist loyalty do exist right we can't put everybody in the same mountain part you know what I'm saying because what you eat don't make me shit right so you being a peace you being a bad person or me being a bad person that don't put a that don't put a stand on your name right that don't hurt your image you know what I'm saying Diddy did a lot of weird ass shit I ain't fucking up for all the freaks in the world you know what I'm saying so I look at shit like no like like it's loyalty either we're loyal you know what I'm saying my boy Bucks is loyal you feel me you know what I'm saying my boy Neff loyal Davio loyal it's people that around me that I know who still loyal my boy Pop loyal both of my both of my niggas pops they loyal it's still loyalty it depends on on on who you rock with and how much they fuck with you he loyal to you it's 19 years he loyal you know what I'm saying about you back the nine shady but it's the same nigga you it's a nigga that you might know the same amount of years that ain't loyal to you and feel like they don't owe you a damn thing no bullshit you ain't lying so yeah that loyalty is still out here it's just about you gotta surround yourself with genuine so you chose money over fame what is something that money can never heal I think money can never heal the losses I took in life. I think money can never heal mental. Right? Your mental issues and what you go through mentally, money can't heal that. You know what I'm saying? Look at Lil Papa, he just killed himself. He got some money to him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's people out here who got money, who got fame, who got everything that we tasting right now. That we looking like, that we looking like, yeah, nigga, if I get this nigga, I'm gonna be the happiest nigga in the world. They got that shit. They still kill themselves.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So money can't heal mental. Money can't, money can't bring you peace. Money, what I don't agree with is people talking about money can't bring you happiness. Money can make you happy. You in that core event back in uh 07, nigga, you got that core event. Well, you turn, you happy. Right? You want your kid to make sure they cool? You got that? Nigga, you happy. Yo, yo, bro. You know what I'm saying? You happy. Money can buy happiness, but money cannot buy peace. Yo, I talked about that.
SPEAKER_02If Bobby Zane never made music again, where do you think you will be in life? Honestly.
SPEAKER_04If I never made it, I think I'll be where I'm at right now. I think I'd be exactly where I'm at right now because I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't put myself to the point where it's like I'm in a yo bro. You gotta. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like if I never if I never music again, I feel like these mics is good, man. But I feel like if I never music again, I'd be in the same position I'm in right now because I don't feel like it'd be much of a difference. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like I'd be chasing something else. I'd probably be like a lawyer's a politician or some dumb ass shit. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm I'm good. I love bro, I love a good let's talk logic. Let's talk logic, right? Because I refault myself like when when the race between Kamala and Trump was going on, I'm like, obviously, Trump sounds like a better candidate.
SPEAKER_02I don't wanna go there. No, we can talk about it. I don't wanna go there. We can go to the next episode.
SPEAKER_04No, but I'm about to break it down. I'm about to break something down to you. I ain't ready for them bots. No, I'm gonna break it down to you. No, no, no, no, no, no, I have a different view now. You get what I'm saying? I ain't trying to get canceled before I get started, man. I have a different view. Logically, in that moment, Trump sounded like a better kid that he wanted no new words, he would have this, he would have that, yeah, yeah, let's lower the gas prices. I'm like, Camera all the in she's in office, she's the vice president. For some reason, we still ended up in war. That's what I'm saying. So now it's like, nigga, you just as bad as the nigga prior. What okay? You worked actually. Okay, you're a politician. That's what I'm saying. You worked actually, right? He sold us a dream. Right, right. Nigga, you told us we're gonna be, yeah, nigga, yeah. So you that's why niggas started voting for you, right? Biden was bullshit. We gotta keep it a buck. Biden was riding his bike, man, even fell off of it, man. He was bullshitting. It was one worse over the next. And unfortunately, and people went with like basically people, I feel like people including me. I ain't vote for the nigga. I just thought it would have been a better candidate at that time. So I'm an immigrant, I can't vote. Just having to let y'all niggas know that, right? But in that moment, it's like, nigga, I'm looking at shit like, yo, yeah, Trump would be way better than Kamala. It's like, nigga, you ain't office right now. You ain't never given the president no advice on what we can do better to help us. You ain't doing that. Yeah, cool, whatever. Let's try the next nigga. What it can't be worse, nigga had already been in office. He already been ain't like our life would change drastically. He was in office, nigga. We was chilling. Then the pandemic hit, nigga. We everybody got some free fucking paper. It can't be worse. That's how a lot of motherfuckers probably looked at it. That's how a lot of motherfuckers were endorsing this bitch ass. But when he got in, he showed he showed his motherfucking ass. He showed his ass. And now, like, fuck that nigga.
SPEAKER_02One one, my final question. What was your realest bars?
SPEAKER_04Damn, I got so many bars. I feel like it's the realest man.
SPEAKER_02Well, what was the realest thing you said?
SPEAKER_04But I feel like the one that really comes into my head right now in this moment, you know what I'm saying? He said that fake love, that fake love is saying, I don't need, and I don't fear no man, cause he be like I bleed. And then God watch how I react. The kids look up to me. You know what I'm saying? A lot of niggas gonna change because money and greed. You feel me? So I relate to that, and that's one of them because even that same song also said the worst feeling is seeing your homie on the t-shirt. Which also go into what the fuck I'm talking about. You feel me? So those I feel like one of the like that I can think of right now, those are one of my realest bars, especially that you feel me. I done seen niggas, you get some paper. You niggas is on paper on you, man. They treat you like you ain't had shit with them, like you ain't struggle with them, none of that. I feel like you know what I'm saying? A nigga might feel like you supposed to be scared of him. Nigga, I what the fuck I'm be scared of you for, nigga. You die like I die, you breathe like I breathe, you bleed like I bleed. Nigga, what the fuck is you cool? But then at the same time, too, you gotta keep your composure with certain shit because there are people out here looking up to you like as a role model. So I look at that like that's probably one of my realest uh when it comes to music and all that, man. I I I I really with all this type of shit, man. But you know, all right, bro, before we get you out of here, uh, I got one last thing for you. Um, trying to fit in this new segment. Um kind of like a stepper of the week type of thing, because it's stepping with on podcast. So just give me a person that you want to shout out, show love, get them flowers to, that's been stepping, making a difference out here, doing something good. The big stepper in your life. Yeah. My life, besides my um, that making a difference for me. Who big stepping in your life? Who who motivating you? Who push like who you looking at? Damn, I need to get like that motherfucker. I see my I see my big brother DL, man. Hey DL, he motivate the fuck out of me. Yo, when I see that nigga like, when I see that nigga wake up and he can do what he wanna do whenever he wanna do it because he got it like that. And I see that he he motivate himself to go get it. You know what I'm saying? He motivates the fuck out of me, man. So shout out to DL, man. You really get like a real big inspiration to me. Shout out to Doubt. Shout out to even my big brother, you feel me? He's making shit work. My little sister, she went ahead and went to school and all that type of shit. Bought to be one of the first, uh, she might be a radiologist, one of the first, I guess, so-called doctors in the family and shit like that. So she's doing her thing. So with all that type of shit, you feel me? Like, even shout out to my baby mom, like you feel me, like she hold it down and she does her thing too, she plays her role and all that. So it all goes down to that. It's it's many people, man. But yeah, I like to get them shout out right there. For me, closing it out when it's all said and done. What do you want Bobby's name's legacy to represent? Purity. I don't people look at me like that was a good dude. Ain't too many. And even right now I'm living, I'm living true. Like, ain't too many motherfucking comedy and be like, yo, yo, B Z did a lot of weird shit, or he drawed, or he did too much shit that I don't fuck with and all that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? So I look at this shit like I look at like look at that shit for purity. Like, I want people to remember me like, yo, when he was here, it wasn't no question about how he felt. It wasn't no question about who he rock fuck with, who he rocked with. It was never no question about anything because it was genuine 25, 8, 24, all that. You feel me? So being genuine periods, I would like to be married, man. And shout out everybody from my city, man. And another question I imagine y'all ain't asked me was who was the hottest people from my city? Because I wanted to break down out to you, because I wanted to put you onto some new chest of music too.
SPEAKER_01Before we get out of here, do it. Give us your top, top five.
SPEAKER_04Top five? Because we don't know all the areas. All right. Look up, look up my boy ESM 2300. ESM 2300. ESM. Him. Look up Mac FDF. Mac FDF. Mac FDF. Hard. Hard. Uh look up um what he called it. All-star youngin' now. He used to be mookin' mouth. But all-star youngin'. Hard. You know what I'm saying? You could look up um damn. I think that's one of three out of my after y'all. All right, I can take a top three. I don't I don't know anybody that's like a really name that might be like T. And there's other motherfuckers they like, you know, from other hoods and stuff. Like, I mean, these niggas ain't even from my hood, but they nice to me. Oh, Lear. Lear. L-I-R-R. He nice too. Okay. You feel me? So you look him up too, man. But and and my boy uh pop from third, man. He's about to start rapping. He about to start dropping some stuff. He's nice too. Me and him got some shit on the way. So respect, man. Respect to the city. Respect to uh Philly, man, respect to these guys, Dub, and my guys Todd, man. It's all up, man. I appreciate you guys having me out here.
SPEAKER_02Bro, I want to say thank you. I want to say I really appreciate the vulnerability. I can already see you where you're heart on your sleeve. Oh, yeah. I appreciate you giving the real you, telling it like it is. This is safe space. I appreciate you giving it giving it all to us.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, bro, bro. You the hottest out of Chester? Am I the hottest out of Chester? In my eyes. They might tell you that. Or they might not. You feel me? It's an opinion base, but me personally, I feel like ain't no nigga can fuck with me in no lady. Okay, respectfully, man. My gamma bobby's name. Thanks for coming through, baby. I appreciate you guys having me, man. Another episode. Me and my gamma tumble. You remember the number?