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Is Working Hard Really a Virtue?

Charles M. Rupert Season 1 Episode 43

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In this episode of American Socrates, we explore the true value of work and challenge the myth that effort automatically equals virtue. From the Protestant Work Ethic to modern corporate life, we examine how meaningless labor can drain dignity, isolate workers, and trap us in a cycle of exhaustion. Using stories, metaphors, and real-world examples, we unpack why so many “essential” jobs remain undervalued, and how the system pushes us to work for survival rather than purpose. Finally, we imagine alternatives — from basic income to worker cooperatives — and offer practical steps listeners can take to reclaim control, meaning, and fulfillment in their work and life.

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Bill Bryson, in his book At Home, tells a story about a problem with modern life that goes something like this. You buy a vacuum cleaner to save time sweeping the floor and beating out the rugs. Then you use your extra time to work more to make a side hustle, maybe so that you can make more money. You use that additional money to buy a bigger house. Which by definition comes with more floor space, and that means it's going to take you more time. In fact, all the time you saved to clean with your vacuum.

Why do we do this to ourselves? Why do we work extra hours to afford more stuff that we don't have time to use in the first place? You're trapped in a loop where you buy time saving devices so that you can kill the time you saved with new obligations. It's as if life has become a treadmill of labor for labor sake, a Sisyphean torment. Not really an ideal life. But this isn't a story about vacuum cleaners.

It's a story about the meaning of work. Millions of people clock in day after day trading hours of their lives in order to get a wage, only to spend that wage on things that demand even more work from them. You're tired, you're stretched out. And for what? So that you can play more video games that demand even more of your time and energy. We don't seem to know what the hell it is we're actually doing in our lives. Meaning seems to be a little lost here. Comfort is somewhat uncomfortable. Waist seems kind of productive. We're caught in a horrible paradox that we can't seem to find a way out of. And that is that the labor that should give you autonomy instead seems to be chaining you to simply more labor.

This is why we never feel like we have enough time for anything or enough money. Certainly not enough to lay our burdens down. Not even for a minute. But imagine a world where work wasn't a trap, where it actually served a purpose, and both for you and the people around you, where effort created dignity, not exhaustion. Where time was yours to spend, not just some sort of commodity you had to sell for survival. That's the question you ought to be asking. What should work before. And I guess, more importantly, what would you do if your life didn't revolve around getting a paycheck? If you had all the money you would ever need? What would be worth your time then?

So today we're going to unravel the myth that effort equals virtue. I want to explore the hidden costs of meaningless labor. And imagine a world where work actually makes life worth living. I want to tell a story about time and dignity and the possibility that we've been measuring work all wrong all along.

Welcome back to American Socrates. I'm your host, Charles M. Rupert. 

We like to tell ourselves that hard work is just automatically good. That effort equals simply being a good person. But the truth is, is it's not quite that simple, and it's a lot more unfair than we usually admit. This idea that working hard is a sign of virtue has deep roots.

Max Weber's a historian traced it all the way back to the Protestant work ethic. Back then, working hard wasn't just practical. It was spiritual diligence. Thrift and industry were viewed as proof that your soul had been saved. God would never reward the lazy or the terrible. And so if you were successful in life. It was seen as a virtue of your industry, of your ability, of your craft. God had rewarded you with all of these abilities. Because he saw in you a good person. Over time, that idea merged heavily with capitalism, and we got a simple cultural rule that effort equals virtue. But there's a problem here. That rule isn't applied evenly everywhere in the U.S. It tends to split along class lines for the wealthy.

Hard work is often framed as some form of self-expression. Go forth. Follow your passions. Find yourself. The world is your oyster. Waiting for you to pry it open and find your pearl. These people are encouraged to blow money, exploring the world, trying new things, discovering who they are as a person. They should launch a startup. Travel the globe. Do an unpaid internship somewhere just to get the experience. It's all celebrated as needed. Growth. Rich kids can spend months or even years just figuring out who they are and what they want to be. Society calls that ambition and determination.

But for working class kids like me, the message is almost entirely the opposite. You should get a job, any job, and be thankful that you got one. Go flip burgers somewhere. Stock some shelves. Drive trucks. Save money. Nothing here is glamorous. That's just pragmatics for the poor. Showing up and doing what is expected of you is supposed to somehow prove that you are a worthy person in this capitalist society. There's little room here for experimenting or exploring or even just enjoying your life. That's what rich people get to do, not poor people. They have to work. 

Imagine the teenager in Ohio taking a year off to go pursue a musical dream. They're going to be judged harshly. If they're from the working class, they're wasting their time. They're wasting their money. But a kid from Stanford who grew up in the upper classes, if they do the same thing, they're praised for finding themselves during that gap year. The moral double standard is glaring and it leaves scars on the working class.

David Cramer put it something like this. The moral and spiritual damage that comes from this situation is profound. It's a scar across our collective soul. Work has become less about doing something meaningful and more about proving that you're not lazy. You know you're worthy of getting to be alive at all. It's not about producing value for yourself or your family or your community. It's about showing effort in a system that rewards appearances and endurance. Loyalty, then, and placing oneself squarely under the thumb of another person is looked at as some kind of virtue.

Ask yourself if your job disappeared tomorrow. Would anyone really notice what things get better and your community? Or would they get worse? If you answer yes, they would notice. You could probably use a raise right about now. If you answer no, no one would notice. No one would care. Then you probably need some additional spiritual guidance because your job's probably meaningless. Think about the typical office worker eight hours a day, checking emails, attending meetings, managing tasks that don't really matter. They're judged on deadlines and effort, not on actual impact. Meanwhile, someone born into wealth can spend years chasing a risky project, failing again and again, losing millions of dollars. And it's called ambition and dedication, not stupidity and incompetence. Same work, different context, different judgments.

Even in the skilled trades. Plumbing, electrical work, carpentry effort alone doesn't always earn your respect. People feel trapped by work, having to prove effort even when it doesn't produce real value. This myth that effort equals virtue is a quiet form of control. It conditions workers to measure themselves against abstract standards of diligence rather than actual achievement or fulfillment. This may keep you compliant, too busy to question or challenge the system, or it might breed frustration in you. Anxiety a sense of inadequacy. The pressure to demonstrate worth through labor rather than through a meaningful contribution. Shapes our decisions and shapes our relationships. It even shapes your core identity. Understanding this history and double standard is just the first step, then towards reclaiming a sense of dignity. Recognizing that some work is going to be praised while other work is going to be merely tolerated.

Let's start imagining a world where effort and real value actually begin to line up. Aristotle can be helpful here in letting us understand this a little better. Because Aristotle held that simple but powerful idea where humans thrive when we use our abilities, when we think clearly, and when we do things that matter. He calls this eudaimonia. It's the idea of living well or flourishing as a human being.

And work is an important part of that. So work, in his view, isn't just about a paycheck. It's about using your hands and your mind to create something real, something that contributes to your family or your community. And it's by doing that, it contributes to being yourself, to making yourself happy. It's about feeling proud that what you do matters to the people around you, the people you care about. But much of the work that most of us do today falls far short of that. It matters only in the sense that someone out there is willing to pay us something in order to do it. So instead of lifting us up what it tends to drain us. It boxes us in and it tends to hide our effort behind pointless efficiency. And you can look at the toll on people. When work feels meaningless. It wears you down emotionally and intellectually. It leaves people feeling hollow and anxious and trapped. They turn then, to substance abuse, to endless videos. I mean, how many hours have you spent scrolling on your phone? Just trying to feel. Decent again.

Even highly paid fancy jobs don't escape from this phenomenon. Think of a corporate analyst sitting for hours making spreadsheets that no one really wants to read, or a psychologist using her training not to help children but to manipulate them, getting them to nag their parents to buy some toy or breakfast cereal. The work is real, the effort is here, but the meaning is really lacking and these are questionably ethical. That disconnect tends to eat away at your sense of purpose and your sense of identity. Because, unlike in Aristotle's vision, effort and impact have been split apart, and so you have been split apart.

The ethical cost then shows up differently depending on the type of work. Take care work for example, or other essential jobs during Covid. Nurses, truckers, janitors, grocery clerks were suddenly essential. They were essential workers. Finally, people saw the work that they had been doing all along. It became respectful. People were celebrated. But for most little else really changed. The pay at these jobs stayed low, the stress stayed high, and society then treated them like tech crew members at a theater play. Their work was best done if the audience never even noticed they were there. Aristotle would say that these jobs are deeply meaningful. These jobs keep people alive. They keep people fed. They keep people healthy.

Yet capitalism rarely rewards them properly, either via income or respect and dignity. Think of the guy who doesn't think the fry cook who makes his food for him deserves to earn a living wage. But the psychologist manipulating children via commercials totally earned that quarter of a million a year. 

But now think about creative or skilled workers trapped in their corporate chains. Back in the 19th century, a cobbler or a Cooper could see the results of their labor. They could pass their skills on to their kids. They could feel pride in their tangible product. But today, skilled work in tech, design or even the trades gets chopped up by deadlines, by automation of processes, by disconnects and management. And the pride and impact are scattered, sometimes even invisible and almost always undervalued.

We've all heard stories of creative people who were asked to give their services away for free, so that one day, maybe they could become famous and earn a lot of money. Even language shapes how we value work. Nurses, janitors, truckers get called essential. But society often sees them only as workers, as if their humanity doesn't really matter. Kramer noticed the same thing historically. They call the landowner a farmer and the guy doing the plowing merely a hand. That's not a fact. That's a story that someone wrote to hide who really does the work. Words shape, respect, and respect shapes our dignity. A hand doesn't deserve dignity. The story goes, even if that hand is the one that's actually feeding you. When you put it all together, you see the costs of a system that rewards appearances over impact.

Some work is undervalued, even though it keeps society running. Other work is overvalued, even though it adds very little across the board. People feel strained because effort and worth just aren't lining up. And when that happens, Aristotle's ideal that flourishing through meaningful work becomes potential that's never realized. Work should dignify us, not break us. It should meet human needs. Not just economic ones. Imagine a society where labor isn't a form of coercion, where your survival doesn't depend on a paycheck, where the fruits of your work align with meaning, with community and human flourishing.

That's the world Aristotle envisions in principle, and it's possible to move towards it today with a few creative reforms. There's the universal basic income, which I know I've mentioned several times before on this show, but it's really relevant here. If everyone had this guaranteed flaw, then no one would be forced to accept a job purely out of fear of eviction or hunger or any reason like that. They would choose because they wanted to go into that work, because it made them feel proud or respected. So work would become a choice, not a necessity. People could pursue careers then, or crafts or projects that serve people around them, that feed their communities, that satisfy their own personal curiosities.

There's been experiments in Finland and Canada, and even small ones in the U.S. that have shown that when survival is secure, people do tend to take more risks. They invest in their own learning. They engage with society in more meaningful ways, not just showing up to collect a paycheck. It would allow the working class to have the same kinds of opportunities to learn and to grow, and to discover themselves that the current system tends to offer only the wealthy.

There are worker co-ops, which I've also mentioned before that. Take this step a bit further. Imagine a business where employees collectively owned the business that they work at. Decisions here aren't made solely to maximize shareholder profit at the expense of the workers. Precisely because the shareholders are the workers. So decisions are made to meet human needs, to preserve their dignity and to ensure fair distributions of the profits. Examples exists around the world of this, from Spain's Mondragon Corporation to small U.S. co-ops proving that people can manage production democratically, take pride in their work, and feel a sense of ownership over what it is that they are creating, all while competing with capitalist corporations.

And then finally there's the post-work movement, which asks whether full employment should even be the goal. If technology can automate repetitive and harmful or dangerous tasks, why tie our survival to constant labor? What if society instead focused on meaningful contribution, creativity, care? Well-Being? We could reclaim time for learning, for relationships, for civic engagement, for beauty. The things that truly do tend to enrich human life. As it is the modern work. Life is lived not so that we can enjoy it, but so that we can purchase our next distraction.

It's a bit like Bryson's vacuum cleaner story. What are we doing? Trying to save time. Only to use that time to clean bigger houses or work more hours. Or worse. When we're killing that time that we've worked so hard to save. We build a cycle where labor ends up feeding itself, working to buy devices that are meant to save time, yet never reclaiming the time we spent earning money. Reimagining work means breaking that cycle. So what would you do if survival didn't depend on your paycheck? What work would be meaningful to you? Would you help others? Just yourself. Perhaps you open a small bakery and source locally. Or teach music to neighborhood kids or volunteer in a community garden. Would you write? Would you paint? Would you repair old homes? 

The point isn't to prescribe a perfect answer. It's to recognize that work can and should be more than a measure of compliance or endurance or worthiness for survival. It could be and should be a path to purpose, to contribution, and to human dignity. So what to do with all this? How do you make the idea as we've explored in this episode? The, you know, the myth of virtue, the hidden emotional cost, the possibility of reimagining labor and make these real for your own life?

Well, first you must reflect on your own work. You need to ask yourself again, does this job really dignify me or keep me busy? Does it serve me or someone else? To what extent am I making an impact on other people's lives? When you take a moment to notice the ways your labor may be draining you or separating you from the community, the pride and the meaning you deserve will become evident.

Sometimes just naming things out loud, even to yourself, is a revolutionary act. Next, you should probably think about small ways to reclaim that time and autonomy. Can you reorganize your schedule differently? Can you prioritize your own learning, your own creativity, your relationships? You know you don't have to do everything for money. That's the logic of capitalism. Everything needs to be a hustle. But you could do some things just for you or just for your friends. You could go out with your friends and just hang out, but you could also go out with your friends and do some project that they've been wanting and meaning to do, but haven't felt the time to do.

Each small decision chips away at the cycle of work for work's sake. But you're also going to want to look more outward from this. You could support changes that make work more meaningful for everyone. Consider joining or learning more about worker co-ops, or supporting policies like basic income trials, that aim to give everyone that floor of security, especially if you're working class. Even conversations with friends and family and coworkers about what meaningful work should look like can help shift the cultural narrative.

Each discussion helps dismantle the myth that labor alone defines your worth. Finally imagine the world that you want. Picture what your life could be like if survival didn't depend your constant effort. What kind of work would you do simply for love? For your community? For beauty? What skills or interests would nurture your soul if they weren't just useful for a paycheck? Start small. Maybe take a class. Start a side hobby. Get into a creative pursuit of some kind. But let it remind you that life can be bigger than merely the grind. And then trying to decompress from the grind. It is never too early to get started on your retirement. This isn't about quitting your job tomorrow. It's about noticing the system, naming it, and finding ways, both big and small, to reclaim your dignity, purpose, and control over it. Every hour you spend reflecting, creating, or building community is an hour of work that serves human life and not just the interests of the owning class. And that is how you are going to ultimately find fulfillment in this world.

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