From a .22 to Professional Competition: Serena J on Marksmanship, Hunting & Mentorship

What happens when a young girl reluctantly picks up a .22 rifle—and discovers a talent that changes her life?

In this episode of Off the Beaten Path, we sit down with Serena J, professional competitive shooter, outdoor writer, hunter, and advocate for marksmanship education.

From accidentally discovering her talent as a teenager to competing at the highest levels of service rifle competition, Serena shares how mentorship, hard work, and passion helped shape her path in the outdoor industry.

We discuss:

• Competitive shooting and marksmanship
• Hunting, conservation, and ethics
• Outdoor media and storytelling
• The importance of mentorship
• Building a career in the firearms industry
• Encouraging more women in the outdoors

If you're passionate about shooting sports, hunting, conservation, outdoor careers, and personal growth, this episode is for you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

All right, we're back at the NRA 2026, right? Where are we at? Where are we at? I don't know. Where we at? H Town Hold It Down. Um, and we have an amazing guest that we've known for a couple years now, right?

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Yes. Yeah, a couple years. A couple years. Yeah. At least in South Carolina.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

It's been a while. Anyhow, Serena, I will introduce you, but I'm gonna ask you to introduce yourself because you're all around badass. And uh I'm really grateful that we got you in for this show because I've been wanting to interview you for a while. I know Rob has too. And uh go ahead, let the people know. Yeah, so welcome in.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Well, I am grateful to be here with you guys. It's always a lot of fun when people have passion and energy for the same things, and to be able to share that, especially through media, is important.

SPEAKER_03 0:47

So agreed.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Serena Jacknowski. I've been writing in the industry for about seven, eight years across a number of different publications, uh doing marketing work as well. But I also started competing about when I was about 14 or so. Yeah. So now I compete professionally in competitive high-power service rifle, which is 200, 300, and 600 yards with an AR-15. Yep. Um, I shoot for Sierra bullets, Citron Optics, and Krieger barrels.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

I also shoot some long range, some silhouette, and I'm pursuing my distinguished pistol shot badge. So all about getting people involved in marksmanship, shooting the outdoors hunt as well. I do a little bit of everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Yeah, yeah. And who saw that first? Yeah, yeah, get some applause, maybe some horns here, Eric.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Yeah, I want to do some horns. We can't hear you.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Yeah, but there is sound effects though.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Okay, yeah. We don't do headphones because a lot of people don't like to hear. Yeah, I'm glad. It's a lot better. Very conversational. So well, okay, so you said a lot. There's a lot to unpack, and I want to start. I don't know, where do you want to start?

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Well, I was just gonna say, we've seen it. Every time we see you, it's like we see this new layer of you doing something different. Yeah, like we're just we're just here a week ago. We're saying I can't believe it was a week ago. Yeah, we're at the Selmark ranch, hog hunting, shooting, and you were out there doing the media stuff too, which was cool to see.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

So shout out to Pomo showing it.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Yeah, shout out to Pomo, Kevin Reese, Selmark, Pulsar. We had a great time out there. Um go ahead. No, no, go ahead. No, you go. No, you, no, you 14 years old, you started complaining around there.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

It was uh it was an accident, really. Really, so my dad had always been a diehard bow hunter, like through and through, and he had wanted me to get involved in hunting when I was about third grade. And honestly, I was so scared to take the test, the hunter safety test. I thought I was gonna fail because I was so worried about straight A's, etc., that I like talked myself out of it. And I was the diagram, and it was like, this is the barrel, this is the action, and now it's like that was so simple. But you know, 10-year-old me was like, Oh my god, I'm gonna fail. Like, I'm not gonna be able to do this. And I had done some stuff with BB guns as part of a father-daughter program called Indian Princesses, where like dads and daughters spend time together doing outdoor activities. But the BB gun was too hard to pump, but I always enjoyed it. So fast forward to I was in eighth grade, and my dad's mentor, his name's Chuck Malone, came over to the house one day, had a 22.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

And he's like, Hey, would uh either of your daughters like to shoot this? And my dad's like, Well, Serena, Serena might, you know, Kelsey probably won't. And I was mad. Like, I was in the middle of homework, I was a nerd to Lamb, and I was like, Well, you want me to do what now? Like, okay, so if I go outside and I do whatever you tell me, I can go back to what I was doing. And they're like, Yeah, just try this. All right. So we go out in the backyard and it's an oberty 22 and they had me shoot offhand. So standing, no, no support. I wasn't shooting off a bench, I wasn't shooting pro-one, but I had no idea. Like, I thought that was just okay, this is what we're doing. So, you know, re went through the firearm safety stuff, which I had always known because dad had always made sure that we knew that. And they're like, All right, point this. They had a chicken silhouette about half dollar size at 25 yards. I'm like, all right, do this, do this, pull the trigger. Okay, shot, hit the target. And my dad was like, do that again. He's like literally shoving a 22 round in my face, and I'm like, that's what you wanted. Like, can't I go back? He's like, No, no, no, you gotta do this again. I'm like, all right, loaded it, did the same thing, hit it again, and they both looked at each other, and I didn't know. I was so confused. I was like, Wow, and they're like, Oh my god, you're actually have natural talent. Like, people aren't supposed to do that. And I was like, Well, I you told me what to do, I did what executed what you said, and this was the result. And they're like, No, you don't understand. Like when Chuck was like, I want to take you to my club and take you to a match so you can beat all the guys.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Okay, so I started shooting a version of silhouette, so the steel targets, chickens, pigs, turkeys, and rams, and and learning with that. So I took a very different path. I went from 22 to a very you know different caliber called 3220.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Started doing muzzle loading.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

I had a I've never even heard of that caliber. What's 3220? Well no, first I gotta hit you with an o'hlaw. Wow. For you to be thirteen. What a hilarious story, too.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, Can I go do my homework now? What are we doing out here? You're like, You just thought that was get away from me. He's like, got the round, like she put this in there.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Looking back now, I completely understand their support.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

His reaction, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

But at the time, I was like, I don't understand. Yeah. And until I started eventually getting more into shooting and coaching, that I was like, Yeah, you don't start people off shooting offhand. Like, that is not the thing that you generally start people out with.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

So let's let's fast forward a little bit because you're a writer.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

I've read a few of your articles, uh, mainly it was a couple years ago, and I love how you write. Thank you. Um and then you went into high like marketing roles because of that writing?

SPEAKER_00 6:01

So I've done a lot of different things over the years. So I've been in the industry for about seven, eight years. Um, I started writing. I always I always wanted to be a writer, but like my teachers were like, you know, don't become a novelist, you'll be broke. Like I didn't know that this existed. And I didn't get into shooting until I consider it later compared to a lot of other youths. Like I talked to people that started shooting when they were 12 or 10 or 5. I didn't know what an AR-15 was until I was 16.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

So a little bit after I had started, a couple years after I had started basically shooting for the first time. So I started uh writing for a magazine called Junior Shooters that was basically four juniors by juniors, so generally kids under 21. And it just kind of evolved from there. I went to college thinking I was gonna get a history degree because I love history.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Do you really? You're oh look, he perked up on that one. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Okay, I spent a lot of time doing all kinds of things with my local historical society. Um, I've gotten multiple sites in my hometown listed on the National Park Service Underground Railroad Network to Freedom.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Wow. What is your hometown?

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Richfield, Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

So that's a whole nother story in itself. But essentially, I went to college and I was really unhappy with how it was so politicized. Yeah. And they were telling me how to think instead of presenting the information, and I had it was just so wrong. You know, they instead of saying here's what happened, I'd go and talk with the professor. I'm like, I don't understand. Like you're presenting people's opinions about history, and then you're presenting them as facts. Like you're not actually teaching what's happening. And after I got through that class, I'm like, I can't do this, I can't go on to be a curator, etc. And I had started freelancing under the mentorship of uh an Alabama writer by the name of John Phillips called Bubba.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

Uh I met him by accident.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Hold on real quick. If his nickname is Bubba, yeah, that's good people. Yeah. Bubba's always a good people. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

He's great. Yeah. He taught me so much. It was meeting him was an accident too. I'm one of those people that I think everything happens for a reason, and I think that you know it was fate. I ended up on a scholarship hunt for the National Wild Turkey Federation. I had never hunted turkey. I was just trying to get money for school. And basically he was writing for Mossy Oak, and the person assigned to mentor me on this like mentorship hunt that I got pulled for, he uh needed my permission to use a photo, and so I asked him what an outdoor writer was. And he called me up and he said, All right, you know, do this, do this, do this, call me in six months. Also join Poma. He was one of the founders of Poma.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Wow. Wow. Wow, there's a lot of layers there.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

There's a lot of layers.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

There's so many things because we talk of one of the main, well, one of the reasons we do this, main reason probably, is to pass this information along, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Amplify the voice.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

And and because we we really want to be it position it as we want to be the voice of people that want that are like you when you started out, right? So to hear about like the program when you went turkey hunting for that, that's why those things are so important. And that's why they're in place.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

And I wouldn't be part of the outdoor industry if it weren't for that experience, if it weren't for John Phillips. Right. You know, if it weren't for Chuck Malone coming over with a 22 and then my dad telling me, you know, hey, stop homework. That it transformed into so many different things, and you know, being active and competing, wanting to share that knowledge with people, um, and being able to take those experiences from the outdoors and to share them with people to educate people. And that's something that I still am continuing to do through you know my own social media under Serena Schutz, and also I do work with Ultimate Reloader. So being able to pull all of that together and kind of circling back to what you had talked about, I ended up getting a marketing degree. I asked John, I said, John, what do I do? I said, I I'm at school and it was my freshman year, and he was like, Go to get a marketing degree, I got a marketing degree in an English minor. I got out I got out of school in three years instead of four, and worked my way up in the industry at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

And haven't looked back since.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

And haven't looked back since.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Look at that pivot. Yeah, that's man, and even that as much as we thought we knew about you, it's like there's something new every time we talk. Yeah, really.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

It's amazing. Listening who stumbles on our podcast, maybe her dad or her uncle are like, hey, listen to this. Is that someone hears a story, we're like, oh, I see in her what I could potentially be. That's like the whole premise of our podcast. I want to be a shooter, I want to be an outdoor writer, I want to there's something that I can do outdoors and have a career in. And even if not, I can be a competitive shooter, right? Exposed to the city.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Or even exposed to it. Yeah. Well, even hearing you talk about your dad and you doing the program, I'm like, I'm thinking in my head, where you're saying that, man, I have a seven-year-old and a four-year-old daughter. I I don't know. Maybe those programs exist near me and I don't know about it because I'd love to get them into that, and I'm trying to figure out what that looks like. So just that little nugget of information is can go a long way.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

And it's like there's there's so many different opportunities that people don't know about. And there's things that I still look at now and I'm like, man, I wish I knew about this when I was younger. But like my mom's gonna start shooting with me and my dad now. My dad competes with me, and you know, it's it's really become a family thing, and the people that you meet are amazing. You know, you have your shooting family, the media family. I've been so grateful to be a part of this industry because I have a passion for it. And I think if if anybody's listening, regardless of age, you know, gender, what have you, that you can always find a way to incorporate your passion into your life. I have truly believe that you know people should enjoy like what they do and feel like they're being fulfilled and be able to do that. And I'm not saying it's easy, like being a freelancer is hard. It is hard work.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

100%.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

But being able to hear, you know, funny story. My my mom was talking to somebody on a customer service line, randomly started talking about, you know, kind of what I do, and the guy's like, Oh my god, I need to talk to your daughter. My daughter watches your daughter on YouTube. Like, not on YouTube on social media. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

And he's why my mom called me and patched me in, and it was the most surreal experience of this person that I never met that was at the end of this customer service line that was like, Listen, I wanted to get my daughter into shooting, she wanted nothing to do with it. I told her, hey, if you if you can what was it exactly that he said? I'm not gonna remember the exact words, but basically, hey, if will you try this, if I can show you another female who's doing this. So he showed her my social and media accounts, took her out to the range, and from my understanding, she loves it. I think she's about 12, I've never met her, but hearing that is what makes me excited to do things like that and keep pushing. Because there's always times where you're like, you know, I'm not shooting well enough, or I'm not doing well enough with A, B, or C. But hearing those things and making it worth it and being able to say, Hey, I'm a role model for someone, just like people were role models for me and continue to be. Look at that, yeah, is very amazing.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

That's and man, we were just talking the last episode. No gatekeeping.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Yeah, no gate.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

Yeah, my mental Rob and I have always carried this, even from our recording studio days, is we gotta pour it into our interns and our employees because when we die, this information dies with us. That's a hundred percent. We we adopted that into this part of our business now, like it with Apex Mount and in the podcast. Yeah, anybody we don't want to gatekeep.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Yeah, we want to take all because we don't even we're learning as we go.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

We're learning as we go. So if people are giving us information or we're giving off information, that's it. That's all we could ask for.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

It's a happy that's why we why we created this platform, really, is to do interviews like this and put that information out there. How often are you competing these days?

SPEAKER_00 14:06

So I'm getting back into a more regular rhythm of things. So generally, when I first started, I used to shoot every Thursday night with a junior program, which was really great, and then at least one or two matches a weekend. Yeah. So now I'm gonna be getting back into um like a one once-a-week schedule, either being at the range or at you know, in my local range or at a match, but there's also you know different training you can do with dry fire. So I have a 22 conversion for my AR from Fulton Armory that I use to practice on reduced targets in the backyard. So I can go out and basically shoot a match and practice with my same Citron S-TAC and just 22 ammunition, but keeping the same weight and everything of my regular rifle. And I'm gonna be using that to teach my mom as well as she gets into that.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

I didn't know you were a competitive, I mean, I knew you were a competitive shooter, but it I didn't re-register into my mind last year at the Pomo summit. I was like, why is Serena like on the gun line? And then I saw you prone, you were showing somebody, I believe. I was like, she's a competitive shooter. It didn't click. I I completely it just it just escaped me. Um, and then I remember when I saw you. I think that is so cool because I want to talk about our experience last week where all of us and then Tiffany and uh Tom Tom Click Tom, yep, one king of the one-liners of the one-liners. We were we came here, not Houston, but Dallas, south South.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Yeah, Dallas. Ended up in Mansfield at a ranch.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

We spend a few days spended? Wow, she's spended, wow. We spawned yeah, we spawned. We spent a few days at the Selmark ranch. Yeah, and um I thought for sure, honestly, I didn't think Rob and I were the only ones that were gonna come out with anything. I was like, oh Serena's she got she has this in the bag.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Yeah, she's gonna load up on hauls.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

She's gonna stack 20 hauls.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

We realized because the Florida guys showed up and showed out just saying we got hogs.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

I really like the idea that you're a competitive shooter and you're out there because you know, usually it's like a single track when you own a firearm, right? Like there's the tactical side of it. I'm super tactical, right? Or I'm just super competitive. And the competitive shooting can be three gun, the wheel gun. But like, yeah, what is it?

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Or even like the Derek, just he started off tinkering with guns, not even shooting. He's a gunsmith does range that yeah, he's a gunsmith to say, but you're like you venture off into a little bit of everything. Yeah, that's cool to see.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

Yeah, I think it's a lot more widespread than people think, as well. And and that's all I'll try to keep it short. There's obviously like you said, until I start talking about it, I realize there's been a lot of things that I've done in a short period of time. Yeah, um, and I'm grateful for all of it. But I did start hunting about when I was 16. All the guys from my junior team disappeared, and I was like, oh my god, they're gone. I should have practiced. I was the only one, those were my friends. Like, I didn't fit in in high school in the regular ways that you were born to stand out.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Okay. So you didn't fit in.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

So I really found a home and a family with the junior team, the other shooters, um, the coaches, and everything that they had to offer. Um, so I told dad I finally wanted to go hunt deer. And he was like, This is two days before youth gun season. I have nowhere to take you. Like he's been waiting for one of his kids to be like, I want to go hunting. And I tell him at the very last minute. So again, I think everything happens for a reason. And like you guys were talking about with the hogs, like hunting is not killing. All right, you know, and I grew up eating venison. We still eat, you know, basically I I hunt to eat most of the time.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

And I hunted that whole day, and at the very end of the day, a beautiful nine-point buck came through, and I shot it right right around sunset. Same kind of thing. It fell right down, usually deer run. That wasn't what happened the first time. I looked at my dad and dad's like, oh my god, it just fell. And I'm sitting there going, What did I do wrong? And you're not supposed to do that. Like, what am I?

SPEAKER_01 18:18

He's like, You're gonna be chasing that feeling for the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

And people tell me, they're like, hey, you know, you got really spoiled. And I was like, No, I don't think so. Like, I could have taken it that way, but for me, it was, hey, this was to get me interested and addicted to work. Yeah, this was to introduce me and say, This is the feeling. And I've spent many hours in the woods not seeing anything or seeing stuff and deciding not to shoot. But you know, hunting is a completely different thing and a different part of the outdoors and a different tradition that I think also pairs with it. So being able to take someone that is a hunter and introduce them to competitive shooting to become a better marksman and take more ethical shots, or taking someone from competitive shooting and introducing them to that.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

You know, um, well, really, I didn't realize that my 40s was gonna be about the outdoors and hunting. I should have had some insight because I started watching uh Meat Eater by with Steven Ranilla. I love how he intimate, he talks about the hunting process. He's not like one of these guys who down, he's like, Oh, he he eats what he kills. Yeah, and that's to me, I was like, yo, that's that's amazing. Because really, why do we go to grocery stores? You know, like it's obviously mass production of animals, and but man, ethical that an ethical shot, let the animal not suffer, it's gonna suffer regardless. But if you get a good clean shot, you're able to process the meat, it's not like minimized, yeah, exactly. And you're not just leaving the body there, you harvest it, and then you share with your family and your friends. That's to me, that's what has like set my soul on fire for hunting. Like, I want to be I remember like when I when I hit the hog and I walked up to it, I just put my hand on its side, and I just in myself, I didn't say it out loud, I said it to myself, thank you. Yeah, because yeah, it's an invasive species, but it's still a sentient being, right? Right, and there's there's there's some people who might be like, Oh yeah, but we're you know, we're just out here clapping, no, no, no. For I know for Robin.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

I mean on the surface level we are, but no, it's it's way deeper than that.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

Yeah, than just uh and I think there's two important points that people forget about when it's related to that. One being, you know, management is important because if you're not helping take care of management, whether it's hogs or deer, you know, population, then it can really destroy. Say that again.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Some people don't believe that. Say that again.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

If you are not like if you don't have hunting, if you don't have hunters who are worried about conservation and ethics, then you have overpopulation, you have disease, and so many things happen that destroy the ecosystems, hurt the population. So hunters are a vital part to keeping these species healthy, yeah, and keeping them alive.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I don't know where we were, but the guy told us that the one a couple of the cattle fell into the hurt.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah, break their ankles, and he said most times it doesn't even financially make sense to have the vet come out. Yeah, prepare the ankle. It just makes sense to be.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

It's the same thing happens with prairie dogs out west.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Really?

SPEAKER_00 21:27

Yeah. And I think the other thing that people forget about, and this is something that I've really had to experience, is sometimes no matter what you do to make the most ethical shot you have, things happen.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

You know, like I missed a hog, it turned at the very last second. I rewatched the video so many times, and we spent a bunch of time looking for it. Concluded that I missed it probably by a couple inches as it made that turn, but it's unpredictable. Yeah. You know, that's again, hunting is not killing. People are like, oh, well, they have no opportunity. That's a perfect example that that that hog had an opportunity. And it took it. It didn't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

You know, but it got away.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

But it got away. And people also have to be able to live with the idea that you try to do the best that you can, and that's where training and shooting and marksmanship comes in, is important. But there are things that are going to happen the more you hunt. You know, like archery. Archery has been an entirely different arena for me. And so having arrows that bounce off of trees or twigs or things like that, no matter how clear you try to make sure the area is, things go wrong. Yeah. And you have to be cognizant of sometimes, you know, the animal will end up suffering more than you want it to, but you make yourself better from the next time you learn from the experience. And I also thank the animals for what they're giving me and my family.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

That's awesome. Wow. Okay, so let's kind of change pace here because we actually are approaching our 30 years.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

I just looked down. It's wild.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

How quick these conversations happen. What's next for you?

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Next for me is producing more of my own content. Like I've been urged to do it for a long time. I've been, you know, published over 300 articles across different publications. That's good. Um, doing a lot with Ultimate Reloader. Gavin Gear just started putting me on screen there, which I'm very grateful for because I've been reloading for a long time as well. Um, but he's also been encouraging me to not only share stories through Ultimate Reloader, but to get more people involved in marksmanship um through my own video content, which is something that I really haven't pursued. I've always been, you know, behind the keyboard, uh, writing and also, you know, out in the field, but not being visible in front of people. Right. Um, and so that's something that I am pushing myself to do this year in the hope that I can encourage other people and share those experiences. Like I would love for more people to get involved in service rifle in competitive shooting. It's got such a rich history. We could talk about that for hours, and a lot of people don't know it exists. Yeah. So being able to share that um with people, and you know, I'm grateful for the sponsors that I have, uh, Citron, Sierra, and Krieger, that make it possible for me to do that.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Uh it's just huge. So that's what's next for me is being able to put that out, uh, continuing to work with Ultimate Reloader and trying to share these different messages and just educate people to find their own passions in the outdoors, wherever that is.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

And how can people find you?

SPEAKER_00 24:15

So you can find me on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube under Serena Shoots. Okay. Um, and you can also find my website Serena Jacknowski, but probably aren't gonna be able to spell that. So if you just type in Serena S-E-R-E N A and Shoots, you'll find me.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Oh, sweet. What is your EDC?

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Oh I do a lot of different things.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

Lately I've been carrying a SIG 365. One of my favorites is I really like my Kimber, Kimber Micro 9 and a Falco holster. Yeah. So Falco makes some really great stuff, and the people are wonderful. So I there's a lot of good guns, there's a lot of different holsters. That's a whole nother. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

There's like you said, we could have this conversation just about. So if there was one piece of advice uh you could you give to someone listening, young lady. Yeah, yeah, we'll say young lady that that might stumble uh across this podcast. What would it be?

SPEAKER_00 25:14

I guess I would say what I think I would say to a younger version of myself, because I often look back and I'm like, I remember sitting there not knowing what I was gonna do. Is that everything happens for a reason and trust and find and pursue your passions? You know, learn from people. Um, there are gonna be some people that you don't want to learn from that you have to then learn who to trust. But basically, don't let anybody tell you you can't do something.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Yeah, amen.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Pursue it on your own. And if you put in the effort and the time and you have the passion, you can make anything.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

The result, the results will follow. Amen. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Oh, I asked so many questions. I love that. Serena, thank you for being here. We definitely could do a part two of this for sure. We need a part two.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

For anyone listening, I know it probably jumped all over, but if you uh have questions about anything specific, feel free to reach out to me and be happy to try to help guide where I can.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

That's the theme of the freak hit us something on there. That's been the theme of the day. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

So that said, make sure you like, share, comment, subscribe, share this with a friend. That's it. Go buy a firearm, tag us, dump us, yeah, go shoot something and and have fun. Good. That's it, have fun. You're right.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Create some memories with your brothers and sisters, and that's off.