Becky Yackley on World Championships, Competition Shooting & Mastering the Fundamentals

What separates great shooters from everyone else?

According to world champion competitor Becky Yackley, it's not secret techniques—it's mastering the fundamentals.

In this episode of Off the Beaten Path, Becky returns to discuss international competition, preparing for Team USA, the mental side of shooting sports, and why simplicity wins.

We cover:

•  International competition shooting 
•  Team USA and world championship preparation 
•  Shotgun, rifle, and USPSA competition 
•  Concealed carry and responsible firearm ownership 
•  The importance of fundamentals 
•  How beginners can get started in competitive shooting 

Whether you're a new shooter or a seasoned competitor, this episode is packed with practical advice from one of the most accomplished shooters in the sport.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, there it is. We are back. Hello, America. We've been getting a lot of downloads around the world.

SPEAKER_01 0:09

Yeah. Yeah, so pretty cool.

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Yeah. But we have a returning. This is our first.

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Yeah, I was gonna say, look how far we've come since. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome.

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Good to y'all. Um, so guys, if you don't recognize the voice, it is the one, the only. The only, only, only.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Becky, Becky, Becky. Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak, yak, yck, yep.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Yak, look. Hey, where's the applause? Sorry. Good, good, good. Thank you. Welcome back. Welcome back.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Thank you guys for having me. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

You've been.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Good, good. Busy. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Productive, busy. Productive, busy. Absolutely. Productive busy. Yeah. How's the show been going for you?

SPEAKER_03 0:48

It's been going well. Like she couldn't even make it over here.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Sorry that you she's like a superstar out here. I mean she is superstar. You're right.

SPEAKER_03 0:56

There's a lot of people to chat with. It's I really like NRA because it seems much more relaxed than Shot Show.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

And there's just a lot of people to see and talk to. So yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

So update us. How's life been treating you lately? It's been good.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

Yeah, yeah. We're busy getting ready for spring, getting ready for matches for the year. My youngest applied for the State Patrol.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

He's had his interview. He's just waiting to do the psychabelle and uh some background stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

So he's moving forward in that uh. Yeah, yeah. So we're hopeful.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

We'll hopefully have a job offer there.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

What about uh uh Middlesun, the gunsmith? How's he doing?

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Uh Sean is still doing his CNC machining program. And yeah, but he's building all kinds of cool stuff. A Setney? I hope I said that right. It's like some 50s era uh battle rifle from Spain, but the HK are behind. Like it's it's there's always something that you walk in, you're like, what are you welding, Sean? What do you have 3D printed to press in the shop press? So it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

How cool is that you can just do that these days? Like, yeah, let me 3D print this idea I had.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

I guess that's a cool update. My son uh a few weeks ago was like, Is there anywhere I can go to a school for like gunsmithing? And I was like, actually, yeah. So we connected with one of the schools that are here and I signed him up yesterday so at least he can get information. So I might have a Yakley 2.0 in my gunsmith in my face. Hey son, I need you to uh you know, give me some side serrations or something in this thing.

SPEAKER_03 2:21

It's helpful to have somebody that you know so we'll do a lot of the things in the guns ourselves, like all of our shotguns. I've done the silicone carbide um on the stocks, and Tim and I open the shotguns up a little more, then the gunsmith will set them up. Yeah, and we'll just kind of tweak things how we want them. Um but when there's things like, could you mill this? Yeah, I'd really rather send it to Sean and say, please get this in the mill and leveled and everything true and all that.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

I like people who stand in the garage room. Okay, mom, what are the specifications?

SPEAKER_03 2:52

Yeah, grounding. Yeah, not telling you. He's 25. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Well, then that's when you tell him, You gotta leave.

SPEAKER_03 3:02

They already live in a different house. Oh close.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

We'll find another storyline. We'll find a storyline by the end. So you said you're about to ramp back up on the competition stuff.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Yeah, yeah. So I spent like I spent a the day before we got ready to come here. I spent doing paperwork for Greece, and I'm going to Poland for rifle.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Like you mentioned that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Shotgun. Um, I'm on the USA ladies' standard team for shotgun in Greece in uh September. So I finally bought my flight, you know, like all that kind of logistics. So a lot of logistics.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

The next six months, it's fair to say, you'll be stepping up for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now in that time, will you be doing like sub competitions gearing up for that big one?

SPEAKER_03 3:45

Yes, yeah. So we in the past, the long gun competitions for international IPSC stuff, um, rifle and shotgun. Yeah, we've not had qualifiers until last year. They've kind of taken certain matches that they know or, you know, yeah. It's been a little a little less structured. So now it's more structured on the USPSAR region of IPSC. Um, so it's more structured. So there's matches to go to to qualify, and then there's matches like this year, they're holding several matches like warm-ups, which is really nice to be able to have that. Um, sometimes it's like the gear you have, your gun, or the length of some, you know, your tube, or for pistol, it's like how far is it from your hip or where your mag pouch is or something like that. So having these like warm-up events are really beneficial that you can get to them and not just get practice, but get make sure your gear is where it needs to be. So that you're not at the last minute going, I have to mount this magazine, this much closer area. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Well, I do want to say this real quick say it. The reel we did where you were showing us stuff, that was that got a lot of burn on Instagram. Burn is good. Yeah. But Rob and I, when we were editing that, we just kept look, we look like idiots. Because we just kept scrubbing the timeline because it was so simple. So simple.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

And I think if you've never seen that before, you're you're just like, oh my gosh, everyone makes this into something much more difficult than it needs to be.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

That's that was yes. We said that with Gabby, she was saying about her teaching, just simple, simplify it, you know, but like and also she met us where we were at. Look at that. She kept it super simple, like that's all it needed to be.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Right, yeah, right. Well, because we've had people, instructors down south in Florida, show us that technique, but it's always it's not explained well. Yeah, yeah. And when you really dumbed it down for us, it was that was it was it because but I I think that like all of shooting can be kind of dumbed down.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Like people say, like, focus on the fundamentals, and then newer people are like, Well, this guy's so experienced, why is he saying that? Like, because it really comes down to like Rob Leatham would tell you pull the trigger without put the sights at the target and pull the trigger without moving them. It's that simple, right? Right, but the all this all the little idiosyncrasies of how do you get there and make that happen at speed or under pressure, um, or in you know, different circumstances that's what changes. That's what changes, right? Right. But yeah, but when you focus on those very fundamental things that you have to do in order to accomplish the skill you're working on, micro behavior, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what's cool. And it's you know, you say something a lot about golf that I think applies also to the firearms industry, it's really is you against yourself. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. You if you get into a place where you're competing like you and your family, then it's where how good have you put yourself through the ringer to outshine the rest of the folks that are competing with you? Yeah, and that's kind of like how I break it down in a nutshell, because I'm I've been golfing with my best bud now. This is my second time golfing, and If you want to call it that.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

No, he did all right. I'm I'm giving it away.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

I got an 80 on my second time golfing. I've never been golfing.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Never seen it before.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

That's awesome. Never been golfing, never been golfing.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Really?

SPEAKER_03 6:55

So when I watch it, I'm like, okay, when people say, like, you know, this is like golf for shooters, or I'm always like, Well, it's a great it is really there are a lot of parallels.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

I think you would enjoy that aspect of it. Yeah, like imagine she's just acing it. Yeah, she just goes crazy. Yeah, look, she's like looking at the flag thing like this. She's like, All right, yeah, let me dial in my nine iron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

Yeah, that's cool. So, okay, so you you you are gonna be doing a bunch of subcompetitions.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Um, yeah, a fair number for shotgun, but I I can go outside in my range, like in the yard. I can go right outside and practice. So I've been doing a lot of that, and then it's been pretty cold, like we finally have spring. Yeah, but we had we had like 18 inches of snow in some places a few weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

So um I'm I've been doing a lot of uh loading practice for shotgun and like dry fire work, more um not necessarily dry firing the gun, but a lot of movement. Yep, and that I think is beneficial because if you get that stuff down, then you can just focus on the shooting when you're shooting.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

Yeah, I'd love to see that like on my no no, I'd love to see that like on your socials, like you just how you're doing it, like at the house. Because yeah, in my head, I can visualize you going through the motion.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Me moving everything out of the way so it doesn't like get in the camera, like be like, Oh, there's the pile of laundry that needs to be done for it.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Probably looks like the opposite of us breaching breach, breach, breach. Oh, geez. So with the competition, are you like intentionally uh weighting it? I mean, like a scale weight, like towards the end of the year, or is that just when the bigger competition's happening?

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Well, so I'm trying to get a lot of rifle work in. Okay, um, but you so for example, shotgun, the way I'm shooting shotgun, I'm shooting standard division, which means we have to load the gun towards the shot. Well, yeah, we're so we're loading four shells at a time, quad loading.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

Yeah, you you know how to do that?

SPEAKER_03 8:47

Oh man, we gotta I know she's a superstar, brother.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

It's like I can I can give you the load on how to do it, you know, like the best ways to learn it. Okay, but so I'll work on that, but you don't want to go and like wear out your wrists, your hands. You don't want to get like fatigued. Yeah. So I'll probably tailor that toward closer to the competition and just focus on like right now, I'm focusing on a lot of movement, a lot of strength training, and that sort of thing. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Can you load it all in one go?

SPEAKER_03 9:19

So you when you like if you look at my Instagram, I had some in my stories, but um, you basically grab four shells off your belt, and you so as you grab them, your hands kind of like this, and you take your thumb is on one set of shells, and then the other shells are kind of tucked under your fingers here.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Got you.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

And then you slide the first ones in, and then you slide the second ones in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

But quick though.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

But quick. So I'm loading, I'm loading eight rounds in 3.5 seconds from the gun up to hopefully the gun up. And then I am at 4.5 for 12. I'm trying to get it down closer to four, but might I might do some more work in my shotgun and yeah, that's next level.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Yeah, that that I can't even really like it. I have no reference for that yet. You got that thing, Kush?

SPEAKER_03 10:10

It's the chilling. But competition shotguns are set up differently than your standard shotgun, right? The voting ports open a lot further. Some people open their receiver up into where you can see the follower. Yeah. Um, and some of the competition ones that are set up specifically for IPSC are much much more forgiving.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Cool, cool. You can go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

No, that was I just uh I wanted to know as far as once you like get into the competition. I know we talked a little bit a lot about it last time, but like what just I know you said the preparate, like what do you do? Okay, you're at the like you're in the competition, you know, like you get there, what's that look like?

SPEAKER_03 10:51

So for for like a you're saying like a local one, a you like no like when you yeah, the international, yeah. So it's it's kind of this will be my twelfth or thirteenth, maybe um international. But so there's a there's a lot that goes into it that's really like logistics and planning. That's huge. Yeah, because you'll see people that they don't have their permits in place, they didn't put their ammo in their permit, they didn't make sure the airline knew they were traveling with a gun, and that can just like you're not having a match then, you're not going. Just getting there is a huge part of it. Um, and then you try to set up things like I want to go do a little warm-up and practice work. Where am I gonna go? Most most matches are required to have a sight in bay or a a practice bay, like just so that you could function fire. They'll call it function fire. Um but those are often really limited and crowded and the time timelines like condensed. So if you want to go do any actual work, you have to do the legwork of finding where can I actually go and do some training, some practice? Because I probably haven't shot my gun for several days. And then you're gonna try to get there early enough so that you can adjust to the time zone.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

Then once you get there, you know you've got all you've got your stuff together and you're there. Then you have to go, you know, if it's rifle, we're zeroing and checking chrono data and all that. If it's shotgun, maybe you're just gonna wait till a little closer to the match to just do a little warm-up. But then you're gonna go preview the stages. So an international, like a world competition, world shoot, there are 30 stages. So you do a sh two short or what one long, two medium, three short a day for five days. You do 30 stages. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

Yeah, that's kind of I I was yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

So you're gonna watch, you can't get on the stage like US matches. You can walk on the stage and kind of air gun, what am I gonna do? In an international match, you don't do that. IPSC, there's no access to the stage, the shooting area, before you shoot, before your time, like, hey, we read you the brief. Here's your three to five minutes uh or four minutes, um, and then you walk the stage. So you want your plan to be like nailed down before you get to your stage brief. So you're gonna go watch the pre-match, watch the people shooting in the pre-match and see what they're doing, like where are they taking that set of targets from? Because you can't always tell. Yeah, yeah. So you have to do a lot of legwork and have everything really set so that when you get your your you've read the walkthrough, um, or you they've read the brief, you're doing the walkthrough, that you have like, hey, I'm just going, am I gonna go to this spot or where's my foot going? You're kind of picking out your landmarks, like are you ever required to go offhand?

SPEAKER_00 13:25

So are you?

SPEAKER_03 13:26

Yeah, yeah. So you'll you're saying like weak shoulders? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so sometimes they'll they can't deny.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Well, let's say strong side support side. They can't actually uh but the rule set require like you're gonna go weak shoulder or you know, weak side, but they can structure the stage so that you're gonna have to because you won't hit it right.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Oh, I think you touched on that a little bit. Yeah, you can't always take your your strong shoulder shot for every shot.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Yeah, so it's sometimes and but then and then it sometimes the thing will and the US often will have matches where they will very much dictate what you're doing. Because you could go you could go strong eye, weak shoulder, right? To get kind of a little less if you don't have to lean extremely, but a lot of times you're gonna have to weak shoulder and what's your strong eye, your right one? Well, your dominant eye. Yeah, no, I'm saying for me, um when I'm shooting pistol, this is my dominant eye. When I'm shooting well, because this is my dominant eye.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Um, because I've got damage to my retina. And um, anyhow, so I use my right eye for rifle and shotgun, and then pistol, I'm generally shooting left.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

That is what you use too it it leads to a little bit of like it does, but I thought about you when we were doing the mile shot at Josh Selmar because I couldn't, I realized that day that my left eye was my dominant eye. Okay, and on the rifle, it was weird. I have to go right and get my left eye.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

Now are you right-handed or left-handed?

SPEAKER_01 15:00

I'm right-handed.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

So I so when I did this damage to my eye, I was about five years old. And it wasn't until I was in college that they discovered what was going on. Because our our rifle coach took us to an eye doctor that did the eyes for the Chicago Bulls at the time. And then we had to stand in this like box and hit this light wall, and like as they lit up, hit them. Oh, yeah. But from like a specific distance. And when I did it, they're like, Oh, you did that as fast as Michael Jordan, that's cool. And I was like, Great, now tell me why I can't see out of this eye. And so they're looking and they're like, Well, you have a scar in your retina. When I was little, I looked at an eclipse. I was five, right? You know, like poke the hole in the paper, watch the shadow. I was five. I poked the hole in the paper and I looked at it. So I have like an empty space. So when I look at a say a vertical stadia on a rifle reticle, if there's like half hash, full hash, I can generally see the full hash, but the half hash is like an empty space.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

So I'm kind of like playing a puzzle game. Um, so with that, I have tried over the years to shoot left-handed rifle. Like when I'm zeroing and I'm prone and I'm in a bag or a bipod in a bag in a rear bag, and I do it and I'm like, my trigger control with my right finger is so superior with my right hand. Because I've like decades of shooting rifle right-handed.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

So see, and I wonder for me, because I haven't. Yeah. Right? I haven't shot that much to really.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

So maybe it's worth exploring. Like, do you want to?

SPEAKER_01 16:21

I hit, by the way, first try, mild target.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

With your left or right eye.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

With my right eye. Your right eye. Yeah. Good deal. It was good though. That was I saw the teamwork in that. That was cool.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

A little bit because I think it's cool that you can say, me and Michael Jordan have some mind up. I'm just saying champions.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Yeah, listen, we train together. We we see the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

Yeah, it was pretty fun. It was a neat thing to get to do as a kid, you know? Like a bit.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

So real just jump back to the to competition. How much are you actually shooting in a day? Like shooting. Oh, at the competition. Yeah, at the competition.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

So if it's if it's one long, two medium, three short, you're shooting 30, 30, 6, 40, 50, 30. Like maybe 100, 110 rounds a day.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Um, because a long course is up to 32 rounds, a medium course is like up to 20, maybe. They're usually like 16 to 20, and a short course is like 10 to 12 rounds.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

And what's the time span? Like how it depends.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

So, like, how is the stage set up? I mean a short course with 10 rounds, you could have a seven-second course, you know. Yeah. Like you could have it. So it's all hit factor. So it's points divided by time.

unknown 17:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

So you're trying, you know, you're trying to just so you're trying to get alphas. We'll have some buckshots, some slugs for shotgun this time. So yeah. So you're trying to get accurate shots, get all the points you can, but as fast as you can. And then there's a lot of mechanics involved. Yeah, there is. And then you'll see, I mean, there's even there's math. Um, there was a stage at our last world shoot in Thailand where a lot of people, it was like, shoot an activator, shoot this, and there were some flying clays, but everyone did the math, and they said, it is not worth even trying for those flying clays. I mean, unless you're sure you're gonna hit them or you're going for like I'm gonna be the the winner, uh, because the math for most people works out that you you're better off to just get your hits on what you can get your hits on.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

For the time, wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

And and that also comes back to like stage design. So if the people that are designing the stages are thinking through things correctly, they're gonna structure it so that you're forced to take all the shots, not just gain the math. Do you have to take into account weather conditions? You're unless it's most matches, unless it's lightning, and like you're shooting. So, yeah, so it's it can be it can be kind of a grind when it's really wet or really like Thailand was humid and hot. I still own a car, but I did like my whole gun.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Yeah. So we can essentially call Becky Becky Week.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Oh, yeah. Trainer same facility as MJ. Yeah, I mean superstar status.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

So, okay, so because our podcast is designed to bring people into the space and funnel them in, what are some of tips and advice you give? Uh I want to go, I'm just gonna say overarching people as a whole. Okay, focus on young ladies because there is there is we are big on empowerment and amplifying the voices that we believe deserve that. What what are some tips and advices you'd give to anybody trying to get in, and then I guess one notch above that, young ladies.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

Okay, so if you just want to get into competition, I would say get online and start looking for ranges and matches, like try a league night. I think I I think we talked about some of this when we got shot, but but really try to find something local, um, and then a low-key match. Like, don't go, I'm gonna go to the state championship. Just try a local monthly monthly pistol match. You could do steel challenge because that doesn't even require a holster. Yeah. So if you're someone who's like, I want to try this, but I have no gear, I just have a gun and some ammo. I just bumped your camera. Yeah, it's okay. No, it's all right. Yeah, it's all right. Just take your pistol. You can even shoot a 22 and steel challenge. And some people won't call it steel challenge, it'll be like falling steel match because they have it. It's sort of like uh what do you want to call it? Franchise. Uh like so. They're just falling steel. So find a really easy match and go to it.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

What can someone expect from the atmosphere?

SPEAKER_03 20:25

It's usually pretty darn helpful. I mean, most people are not they they want new shooters, they want their sport to grow, they want to welcome people in. So if you're uncertain, just call ahead and say, Hey, I'm a new shooter and I'm gonna come do this. It'll be my first time. Can you put me with people who will help me? And they usually will.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Because new shooters are nervous, like we've noticed the more we talk with people, a lot of the questions that we ask eventually you know, what was it like when you were coming into the space? And there's always that sense of like, and then dog, what am I doing? And then we all agree that this is arguably the most welcome in space. All you gotta do is say, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. And before you know it, somebody's like, Hey, I can help you. Yeah, right. So that's really cool. Even to know that even trickles down at to the competition level, yeah, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Well, I think it's sorry, I didn't know I think it's also like amazing to see. It's one of the most real-time things we've ever seen. Yeah, like for instance, my daughter-in-law uh came out to the range with us, and it was her first time. First pistol she bought at the gun show.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

Oh Ann Shout out, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Shout out Ann, J Dog, my daughter-in-law, Big Brown. Um and it was cool just to see because this is like the second time we brought another guy to an influencer event. It was his first time ever being around firearms. And he was like so intimidated at first to that switch went off, and you realized, oh man, I can do this. Yeah, it's not that scary. These people will talk to me, they'll help me. Yeah. He's like, yo, and the same thing with her. I could see, like you said, she had some nerves, which is okay, but she was very like as the day progressed, you could see her getting more comfortable. Until she was just like, Oh yeah, this is cool. I like this.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

And I I think that that's, you know, from beginners to even more experienced people. I was working with a Marine Corps officer last week who she wants to get a little more proficient with firearms. And but she was like a nationally ranked tennis player. And her husband was kind of joking, he's another Marine Corps officer. And he's joking, like, can you just put a tennis racket in her hand? I was didn't you make a post? Shout out to Millie. But so he um we did. And I didn't really tell her how I was gonna do it because I didn't I didn't really have a plan, but I was like, let's just make this organic. I don't want to force it and like stage a video. But he said this, and I'm like, that's worth it's worth doing. So put the tennis racket in her hands. And but first I had her move with the rifle. I said, All right, shoot this and then move over there. And she did it and I videoed it and I said, All right, take this tennis racket, go do it. And then she did it, and it's like my video is pretty short, but her movement, she didn't have to be told when you get into position, don't stop and then raise up. Just stay where you are. You have that like absorb that momentum kind of like just come to a more compressed position and then just shoot from there. So shh, then I gave her the rifle back and she moves like she did with the potato strap. Yeah, way better. And then it was like a light bulb went off in her head because she I had about like a two and a half minute video, and she just goes, and this and this, and she just like it clicked.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

It's so cool to see.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

And I said, I think the thing that I want you to take away from this, I was telling her, is you you can do this, you got this. It's not like there's some secret recipe or like information, or you're gonna have to do you know, years of training. Like, yeah, there's some things that you're gonna get better after years of doing it, but most people aren't capable of doing these things. It's just like focus on like attention to detail and really understanding what I am doing and that it's a sport, right? If we're doing the action stuff, it is a it's a physical sport, so move your body like you were at any sport.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Hey, serve, serve it, pull! All right, so let's let's change pace a little bit. Oh well, no, no, no. First, what's your everyday carry?

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Um, so it we have like this bamboo bin in this in a couple of what am I carrying in the neck? Oh usually it's like okay, I have an LC9.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Nice.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

Um, I have an LCP. I have uh the boys have a couple, like there's an MP or two, there's some SIG. Um, so it's just kind of like what I want that day. It might depend on what I'm wearing. Yeah, uh, might depend on whether I'm carrying in a like maybe a fanny pack. Yeah, I'll carry that often. Um imagine someone tries to they don't know.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

They don't know, she's like real competition. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

So you know, it's really funny. I I don't want to interrupt what you were gonna say. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

I know obviously, yeah. We're just being idiots.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

No, so yeah, so we carry it. We it just it's a variety. And if I am honestly, if I'm going on a road trip, I have a Glock with an extended basement mag, it holds 23 rounds, and it's got an optic, and it's got a light, and that's in my car.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

We gotta give Becky an extendo, like a oh man, should be imagining. Yeah, break yourself.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

But um, what I was gonna say is um there was somebody that was speaking yesterday, and they were talking about carrying that. It was a female, and she was like, she had never carried before, she bought a carry gun and she felt so much safer, and all this worry that she didn't know she had. And she goes, but now I can take care of myself. And I'm like, this is true, you can address the situation, but you also have to understand like what are the repercussions of whether I have to do that or not? Like, what is so like what what do I have to consider legally if I have to use this or not? And that there's so much more to it than just I've got a gun and I've yeah, I stopped the threat if I have to.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Yeah, we talked about that. Okay, uh yesterday. Yesterday, but he was saying like a lot of people think it just stops there. Yeah. When you decide to pull your firearm, right, you gotta think about all the consequences, sure. You might very well end up in prison. Yes, and beyond that, what what what am I have to deal with in place? Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

He was talking about before that de-escalation, right? De-escalation, communication, correct, right?

SPEAKER_03 26:14

And do I do I put myself in that situation even? And I think like you know, if you can not have to de-escalate something, just don't go there. Um I got to go do something with CCW safe last year. Nice, and it was really, really great information. And if you if you want, I mean, getting some of them on your podcast would be awesome because they have um people who have worked all the different aspects on the legal side of concealed carry and the repercussions. Like there's a gal who was she was a DA, she was a cop, she was a I think a prosecutor as well. But they'll tell you the system isn't designed to protect you, and if you have to use it, you're gonna get arrested in hand-offs. Yeah, and so you have to really come to terms with that and have a plan. Like they have some amazing insurance. Um, for me, it was like, oh, they'd help me with TSA if I had an issue because that's part of their service, their offer. Yep. Um, and what is the most likely thing I'm gonna run into? It's traveling with firearms and did a round not make it out of my you know bag. That so, anyhow, there there's like so much more to it than just what gun do I carry and how do I carry it? And that's a great wangling.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah, those are great points. Yeah, drops and you got an air horn. Yeah, you can't just do one air horn. I know I just did a few. Jeez. I'm not the DJ, bro. Wow. You got the soundboard over there.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

You got it. You don't need your little T-Rex arms.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

But so you guys asked really specifically about females and like info for them. So, like, yeah, competition, get in something very easy, like low-key, steel challenge or local mash or something like that. But when it comes to like concealed carry and stuff, I think seeking more actual instruction from people who have the right information, not just like, hey, this guy's on Facebook or this guy's, you know, there's a lot of claims to be an instructor. Yeah, yeah, like really seek out qualified instruction, qualified advice, and understand the legal aspects of what you're doing. And I mean, even if it's just like I'm gonna own a gun to go compete, make sure it's legal for where you are, you know, because we do have a lot of people in some crazy states that are limited in what they can own, you know.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

So let's switch things when we're here at the last minutes. Really quick. What is Becky Yackly listening to when she's training? What's your like top five artists or songs?

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Oh. Um, I probably pull up a bit of Metallica. No, the third Metallica mention today.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

At least it's not a YouTube thing. Oh man, my boy's throwing you two right under the bus.

SPEAKER_03 28:41

No, um, that genre, um, I don't know. And then sometimes I'll pull up um oh my gosh, I'm blanking on what it was. When we went to Sweden, there was this I'm gonna call it techno. I'll I'll figure it out, I'll message you what it was. But yeah, I might I might have a little bit of that like funk kind of stuff going on.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

I guess okay, yeah. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

Because if you're out there and you're cold, like it's cold where I live, you you don't want to warm up. You want something else going on?

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Yeah, yeah, fridge. Cold is like us. It's 50 degrees. It gets 50 degrees, yeah. But yeah, you got the big coat, thick coats on.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

So where can uh people find you again?

SPEAKER_03 29:18

So Becky Yackley.com um or Becky Yackley on Instagram. And I'm I feel like Instagram's just friendlier to me too. Like the the sharing more natural. Um but yeah, Facebook too, saying Becky Yackley.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Yeah, that was good. Well, America got another amazing episode. Tip of the cap to Becky.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Thank you for uh being on our show again. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, seriously. Make sure you like, share, subscribe. We'll get you a firearm, we'll get you some truck, empower yourself, and have fun, man. Not everything has to be serious. No, it does not. It does not. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

That's it. Thanks for everything. Thanks for everything.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Bye, guys.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Bye.