Can Education Change Gun Culture? | Harrison Benton (Double Tap Coalition)

Education changes everything.

Harrison Benton, founder of Double Tap Coalition, joins Off the Beaten Path to discuss why firearms education—not fear—is the key to building stronger communities.

From serving in the Army to selling ammunition during the pandemic and becoming one of Atlanta's most respected firearms instructors, Harrison shares how education transformed his own path and why he's committed to doing the same for others.

In this episode we discuss:

•  Firearms education 
•  Gun ownership in Atlanta 
•  The importance of quality instructors 
•  Responsible concealed carry 
•  Building community through training 
•  Why representation matters in the 2A space 

Whether you're buying your first firearm or looking to become a better shooter, this conversation reminds us that knowledge is the greatest tool you can carry. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Alright folks, America. Man, we got some heavy hit. Man, we're just like back to back.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

Back to back to back. Oh man, bumping the camera. Bumping the camera. Harrison.

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Yo.

SPEAKER_03 0:11

Mr. Double Tap.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Yeah, man. What's good, bro?

SPEAKER_03 0:13

Thank you for being on the show, bro. Yeah, we appreciate you all for having me, man. Introduce yourself, man. Let the people know about you.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

So I'm Harrison Benton, owner Double Tap Coalition. Um, I do firearms training and instruction, and I also do firearms sales and SOT. Probably been at it this year, will make six years since I've been doing it. Um, over the last two years, I've been crossing over into the influencer space. It wasn't kind of my thing. With dealing with KD, it's kind of like, yeah, yeah. So I'm on camera. Yeah, man. It's crazy, bro. Shout out to KD. I'm kind of on a on the hybrid thing now. So I'm doing instruction and I'm doing the camera work with the content and stuff, man. So in a nutshell, that's it, man. Just keeping busy with that. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

Bro, so six years, how'd you get into the space, man?

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Selling ammo in the pandemic. Really? Yeah, and it's crazy. It's a good spot to be. Bro, I got still got pictures, right? When ammo dried up, I was the only one of the only people in the city in Atlanta who was selling ammo. Bro, it got to the point I'm buying bulk boxes of ammo with the scale and the vacuum seal bags, bro. So I'm getting I got it down to the grain, and we went it up on a scale, like you know, you do in the kitchen. Like I still have pictures.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

That was like hustle don't stop.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

You pull up in the hood like the ice cream in like shit. You gotta do it, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

So bro, that's dope. Um man, there's so many things I want to unpack with you because I know you are in Atlanta, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Last year, the NRA was it last year the NRA was in there?

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was last year.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

Hey, you know, I heard everybody talking about uh man, I hate Atlanta coming through here, blah blah blah. But it's like I love Atlanta, bro. I love being in Atlanta, I love going through there. We got people in Atlanta outside of the space, like you know. But uh talk to us about gun ownership in Atlanta, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

It's it's different. And yeah, I've been hearing the same thing here. Yeah, everybody's like, you know, Atlanta owns this, this, this. I'm like, y'all do know NRA goes back to Atlanta next year.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

But when we look at the demographics, man, we talk about gun owners, Atlanta's different. Yeah, imagine the MRA, uh, the NRA going to Miami.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

It's like we do guns, but we don't do NRA guns. Yeah, and that's no shade to the NRA, it's just like we do our own thing. Yeah, and in Atlanta, it's the same way. It's like, man, we got a gun culture, yeah. It's just not NRA gun culture. Yeah, if you come to a gun country like Texas, bro, and it's like everybody does guns here. Yeah, yeah. And Atlanta, bro, it's just different because there's so much, I guess, like I don't want to call it street shit.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

But I mean, but it's it's the culture, bro.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Yeah, we just do it, we do it differently. And yeah, most people are in the city, but then when you go outside the city, it's like everybody got land and everybody doing shit in their backyard, yeah. And it's like it's not as big as it is everywhere else, so it's just it's different in its own right, man.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Yeah, and that's cool. Go ahead. No, yeah, it is. I love that uh, like you said, man, I would love to see the NRA in Miami. That would be great. I know they're in Orlando after it's Atlanta next year, then Orlando. That's gonna be interesting to see. But what like I just want to rewind a little. What was your introduction to firearms? Like, how'd you get into it? Yeah, how'd you get into man?

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Like professionally, so I did eight years in the army. Yeah, I did a lot of heavy. Yeah, thank you for your service. I did a lot of heavy machine gun work in the military, and after that, it was like shit. I did guns on this side, yeah. So doing guns on the professional side, it was cool as shit. And then, like in the pandemic, when I started selling ammo, I was like, bro, everybody wants education. So I saw a niche for and it was like, let's take it to another level. Like, I when I was rapping, bro, this dude always told me, your business is always gonna tell you when it's time to grow. A lot of people they jump in the game and they start doing all this extra shit. And I'm like, dog, man, listen to your brand and your business, it's gonna tell you when it's time to make the next move. And as I was doing the things I was doing, it was telling me, like, okay, do this now, do this now. So, and people be like, Man, why are you doing that? Bro, the universe telling me to do it. Yeah, and if I off, if I'm off course, the shit doesn't work, so I'm only doing what the universe is telling me to do. So it's just like you move when you're supposed to move, man.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

We hear a lot of dolls said that Pew Culture said the same thing, like he wasn't even really trying to be in the space like that. No, and everyone thought, assume he was in the space, and industry is like, why am I fighting it? Like you said, it just that's that's the that's the route he went. He wasn't trying to fight it anymore. So I'd love to hear that.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

I didn't want to sell guns, I didn't want to teach everything I'm doing now. I there was a point when I told somebody I did not want to do it, yeah. And it's like when it's there and it's you, bro, you do it, yeah, and it's just gonna be easy for you to excel at what it is you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

And that's kind of like our genesis like into the space, it is for sure.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

You know, because we were guns, we're in the guns and firearms, you know.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

And uh we had a recording studio for seven, eight years, yeah, and then um he got COVID, and I was at an ammunition company, and I rebranded that company. I got to working with a bunch of influencers, specifically black influencers, because I believe in empowerment.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Yeah, and I was like, hey, I'm up that's when we saw the business, the industry side of it, yeah, not just consumers and what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Way more money than y'all did the seven, eight years in the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was yeah, ask me how I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So 2020, right? Yeah, January 2020, I dropped my last rap album. Okay. And then I was like, What was your rap name? Peter Max. Peter Max? Peter Max. Peter Max. You're still up for Alpha Music now.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

Okay, yeah, I got my music still up.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

All right, yeah. Amazon Cush. Oh, but it was just like, man, this shit ain't paying me. Yeah. So we tore the studio down, man, and it was like gunshit. Yeah, yeah. The first couple years, it was good.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah, we did, but I love the space we're in. We say that almost probably every show.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

It's just a dope industry, man. Money in this industry came a lot quicker than the rap industry. Yeah, especially in Atlanta. Everybody's on the same planet. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Oh, yeah. So just then you got everybody coming from out of town to Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Yeah, on that on this journey, like just not even that long. I mean, it's crazy. The pandemic starts was six years ago, which is wild to think about. Yeah, man. What have you seen in that time? You know, from when you started to now, just in the industry, like changes, things that man, a lot of it has to do with like politics.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

A lot of the changes because you know what I'm saying. We got BC before COVID, during COVID, because you had the Biden era, then you had the Trump era. So when we came in COVID, bro, everybody wanted to buy guns, everybody wanted to get in the industry, and then you got all these gun grabbers pushing people more to get in the industry.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

That's a great gun grabbers.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

We're gonna take your guns, we're gonna we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. But then you go into the first Trump era, and it's like he's giving out free money. People don't know what to do with the money, and it's like, shit, I'm gonna go buy this Draco now. I'm gonna go buy this gun. That was literally us, yeah. Yeah, yeah, pumping all this money into the economy, getting no stimulus checks. Everybody came out the gun era, so all the money came, the economy got stimulated, and it was like, man, this is dope. And then you come out of that era, and it's like, all right, so what are we gonna do now? Yeah, and the the industry just changes because now we're back in Trump here. It's like, ain't nobody really need guns. So, what you up to right now? Like in the space, what you up to? Man, I'm I'm just getting my range established. Like, literally, I'm trying to negotiate different stuff going on at the property. So, my official range, I got done with the construction like two months ago. So, even up in the shot show, man, it was like we having the groundwork, we got bulldozes and construction crews doing shit. So, getting the range open, bro. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

How big is the range?

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Acreage rise, I'm gonna say, man, I probably got three acres in the corner. Okay. We got like three acres where we're working out of pistol range only, or pistol and range. Right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

You got long ranges too, like for mile out, or nah, nah.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

I think now on the property, there's another spot that you can get up to like a hundred yards. Yeah, but in my corner, it's like a 40 by 40 in terms of the range space. Yeah, so I got like a 40 by 40 in my corner.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. That's really dope.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Yeah, that is, man. Prop props for that. We gotta oh, yeah. We gotta give them some love on that.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

You can't hear, but we got a sound efficient.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Yeah, we do. Would you drop the air horn? Yeah, drop the air. That's our go-to. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Yeah, I did. And I was like, eh, let me hit a couple more. All right, bro. So uh tell us some of the most notable moments in the space for you, like working in the space, because it's different being a consumer versus working in the space. Like, what is some cool stuff Double Tap has done, Double Tap has done in in the space?

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Man, I don't know, bro. Like, it's to me, it's all normal, but to everybody it should be big. Yeah, speak on it, bro. I think some of the stuff, man, is working with like some of the rappers. Yeah, but to me that's not big because I came from the rapper.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Oh, we'll get to that. We're gonna switch gears and talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Yeah, um man, notable.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

You got any partnerships that you've been working on, or I'll tell you this, bro.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

I won't even say notable, I would tell people one of the most noble things. My mom is one of my leading shoppers, right?

SPEAKER_03 9:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Oh, that's dope. A lot of people who know the story, it's kind of weird because so when I came back from Iraq, man, 30 days after I got back, my middle brother got killed at his best friend's funeral. So my mom had to bury her son. I buried my brother, right? And a lot of people when they go through traumatic situations, they anti-gun. But there's a situation that happened at the range, and they needed me to come in and start doing in-house instruction, but it was like, you need a female instructor. I was like, okay, I had a partner at the time, but she wasn't gonna do what I needed her to do. So I was like, hey mom, what you gonna do, real? Like, we got a chance to make a difference. What you gonna do? So instead of saying she's anti-gam, my mom was like, shit, fuck it. I'm gonna go help other women defeat this anti-ganged into it. You know what I'm saying, a better defender. So she overcame her experience with burying her son to gun violence to now she's leading away with showing other women. Like, we even had a lady who came to a class one time, and a lady got shot seven times by her ex-husband. She sat in front row in the classroom with my mama teaching. So a lot of women hearing her story are coming to train with her because it's like you can help me overcome my fear or whatever situation I've been through. We can relate a little bit because you buried your son.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Yeah, yeah. Wow, man, that's powerful. That's powerful. Yeah, using that as a tailwind and not a headwind.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

And it makes it a very human experience.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Because especially like in the city, man, gun violence affects more people than it does, like in the country. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 10:42

That's what they say. I'm not a big critic. That's what they use against me. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

But I mean, but it it's it's still real, though.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

You know what I'm saying? It is, but man, when you think about the media, bro, we only hear about gun violence because that's what they're talking about. Yeah, yeah. We don't hear about shit else. It's just your agenda is a very good thing.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

But I mean, even even outside of the media, like when we had our studio where we were at, well, there were bodies dropping in seem like every other day. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And our our media sources back home try to, you know, like talk on it.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

So Pete, that was a major metropolitan, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

So we're talking about the metropolitan area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when you look at the state, how big is the metropolitan compared to the state?

SPEAKER_03 11:22

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like that that, but that's the point, right? Because in the city, it is the hell we got a firearm for in the city. I ain't hurting no animal. You know what I'm saying? Bro, my first my first firearm, I just talked about this, remember? My first firearm, me and my brother got our first pistol when we were 14, 15. And we're not at.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

What kind of pistol you had?

SPEAKER_03 11:44

It was the 38 Special.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

Mine was a high point.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

Yeah. Yeah. I was high as shit, too. The point of that is is our our journey into the firearms started way back in the way back before I could even know I was allowed to carry legally. I was allowed, I've I've said this story three or four times now throughout the last few seasons. The reason I got my license to carry is because of him. When we first opened up the studio, he was like, You got a pistol, right? I was like, Yeah, I got a pistol. He's like, No, I know you got one, but you got a license to carry? I was like, nah. He's like, You need a license. I was like, for what? He's like, What are you gonna do if you need it? I said, Man, I'm gonna up this thing and he's like, we gotta get it too right. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, What do you mean? Bro, literally, that was a one-day conversation that night. We were on FaceTime. No, not FaceTime, we're on Google Meets. Yeah, and he's sending me links. You want to do this first, do that? He's like, get it before the gun show, go to the gun show, take your course. He's the the only bro. I had no idea. No one in the hood ever talks about legal gun ownership. Yeah, bro. I got I got family members here in South Texas, my wife's side of the family. Yeah, bro. In some of the family's houses, there's a gun in every ring.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

We never talk about legality. No, we just talk about like if we need it, it's right here.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Yeah, yeah. That's how background, though, because exactly who he was is who I am to the community now. It's like now they call me like I'm fucking Google, like, hey bro, yeah, this is next. I'm like, hey man, first of all, go get your license. Yeah, and then it's like any questions they got, it's like I'm the liaison because they ain't got nobody in the industry tapped in. Right, and that's the point.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

That's the point is like because we are in the inner city, it is amplified because you know, bro, you can see the post. Shout out, um, man, what's bro's name from We the People? Um Shelton. Shelton.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Yeah, Shelton.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

I saw him make a post two days ago. I I reshared it from the uh the podcast page talking about that when someone says spot the difference, it is usually a white influencer. And this ain't a thing about race, it's just about highlighting that in certain communities they think minority gun ownership is ignorant. Like we look like fools. That ain't the case. It's just we don't have the knowledge. And so there's people like us in the space saying, hey, no, you you gotta write. You gotta learn how to use why use this this grain, what does FMJ mean? Yep, what does you know, like why a holotip is better, right? Why you don't need a stick at your house for home defense because you're responsible for everything that bullet hits.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Nobody thinks about that. Nobody thinks about it. Not in our community, you know.

SPEAKER_03 14:19

Exactly. We respond just the way like we were brought up. And so my whole thing, our whole thing in this entire with this entire journey is empower people. You don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 14:32

I was 33 when we opened up that studio. I didn't know I needed a license, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, shout out to my boy Breeze for putting me. And then in turn, we had a lot of youngins coming to the studio. Hey bro, get you a concealed carry. Yeah, get you a concealed carry because you get picked up and roped off for having concealed carry back then in Florida. You could conceal carry and then they'll rough you off. Now it's you know, open carry or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But the youngins didn't know that. No, so who's gonna tell them? Yeah, you know, and that's the point of an OG, right? Like, I'm gonna put you on game.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Well, I was just gonna say back then it was OG is different.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

OG's different. Well, look at what you're gonna child if I can. KD yesterday. Same story, different city, right? Yeah, St. Louis, in the in the in the you know, everyone's strapped, no one's legal. Nobody, he goes get the the AR, you know, he's legal. He don't have it, he don't have to run.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

He's good, so and and that's the whole point. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 15:28

That's why because it's for everybody.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

That's why I want exactly that's why I want to join this podcast because we know you in Atlanta, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so I that's what I want to hear, is like the work that you're doing in Atlanta, because yo, it's powerful, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Atlanta, let's let's be for real. Atlanta is the black Mecca right now. Shh, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

Everybody wanna go to Atlanta, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

And it's well, it's what Black Wall Street was a hundred years ago. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We just don't talk about it enough because there's people in this space who might not be comfortable about having the conversation, but it is part of the history of this country, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so having an event like NRA in Atlanta, it shouldn't it shouldn't sway people. Oh, I hate coming to a what yeah from the city.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

I love the city. Man, but people in that aspect, man, it's a money thing to that's it. It's about the the the money and it and the economics. Yeah, like Atlanta is different. You're looking at it for another reason, but the money you're looking for is there, you just gotta go and find it in a different direction.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Man, there it is. We talk about that a lot.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Yeah, and the food is amazing. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Hey, come on. I mean, there's some good uh food in Houston, too, but it's time hold it down. Excuse me. So um, yeah, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

I kind of hijacked.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

No, no, no, that's all right. I'm used to it. Um what kind of advice would you give someone? Like someone, because we try to position our podcast as yes, it's cool. We want people in the industry to hear this and to listen to this. But this is we really want to that don't know might not know anything about the industry. They might just have their first firearm or they might want to get their first firearm. What's a good piece of advice looking back on your whole career and journey in this, would you give someone listening that is thinking about getting a firearm, they maybe just got one? What's that?

SPEAKER_00 17:15

If if I could talk to myself before I got in this shit, man, there's two pieces of advice I give. One is if you don't have the money, find somebody reliable on YouTube who you trust. Because everybody go to YouTube. And there's a lot of people who give good sound advice on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. The second piece would be find you a good local instructor.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

There's a ton of local instructors who will help you. And it's like, yeah, we got a problem with instructors too, but they're good solid instructors. So either do your homework on YouTube with a legitimate source or find you somebody to go to in person and take a class. Even before you buy a gun, go take a class.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Because training, man, it's firearms is martial art, bro. Yeah, and it's like if you don't go get some kind of solid background training, yeah, man, you you're gonna be lost. Yeah, like just taking that class helps set you up to pace your journey out here and do it. Because if I had a good instructor like I do now, it's like, bro, I would have done things so differently. Like you said, even with KD and the story with him and St. Louis, you come out with the AR, everybody on the block look at you differently, like what? Yeah, and even now it's like you realize once you become that person and you show up. Y'all seen uh War Dogs where bro went to the trunk with the Uzi. Yeah, it's like everybody ran. It's like when you show up with that now, it's like, oh, you got that? Yeah, it's legal. I can have that, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

You can know that man, telling an atrophone to uh to Atlanta, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Yeah, so it's like, man, that that's what I would tell people. Like, find you some good resources, man. Okay, they're a ton of free.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Because they're out there, right? Man, you can find anything now. But I think you made a great point. Find the the good people. There's because there's so much, yeah, find the quality, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Especially like in Atlanta, everybody's a firearm instructor, yeah. And someone was bidding, find someone who's got a good idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody, yeah. I tell people, dog, when you go find a firearms instructor, the number one question you can ask them to was the cipher, ask your firearms instructor when's the last time they took a course.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

That's good.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Man, you you're my instructor. Hey, Cush. Uh, when the last time you went and got trained, or when the last time you took a class to freshen up on your skills. If the answer is I haven't because I don't need it, bro, leave.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

Go the other way, bro.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

You can KD go take training. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've been talking to us about training. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like asking instructor, it should be continuous. Yeah, yeah, always. Yeah, when you're looking for an instructor, ask them when the last time they went to I like that.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

That's a gem. And we're pushing 20 minutes. Yeah, so let's change pace.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

What's your everyday carry? Right now, I'm carrying the Walter PDP Pro L. Okay. My boys, bougie. Yeah, yeah. Brought that from live? I did the Kenny Prime all last year. I did a prime. So it really is bougie.

SPEAKER_03 20:03

Yeah, so since you're not using it anymore, just uh good home.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

You're born and raised in ATL? Yeah. All right. This should be fun. This should be good. All right, let's switch speeds. Music. Who got like where'd you get? You said you had an album out, rapping. Like, what was your inspiration? Who'd you come up on? Who were your OGs? Bro, I grew up on a dungeon family outcast.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Oh, come on. Come on. RIP R. IP Rita Wade. Yeah, man. RIP REACHO WAY, man. The original ATL that's where I grew up. Man, what an era, man.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

I had a fire story, like at the peak of my career. Um, there was a festival in Atlanta called uh AC3. I remember that. Yeah, yeah. AC3 used to be picked. I performed there. Some of the guys from my city went up and we had to perform in different pockets. And one of the things I love doing is crowd work, right? And so I was uh I was performing at an AC3, and there was a we were in a small club, but it was like it was packed wall to wall. And I know where I was at Atlanta. I was like, man, I heard there was a uh a small rap group that came out of ATL. Y'all might know them, Outcast, and everybody went, hold on, let me hit Goose Plus. And I was like, if y'all know these dudes, finish them. And I said, Nah, throw your hands in the A.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Hey man, man.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

And they said it and waved him like it just don't care. And I said, and if you like, fix your grant to the city. And all that pipes shit. And I turned the mic, and everybody, I mean he said, Man, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it was like, I mean, it wasn't big, but it was like three, four hundred people in there. And my boy Gene, he looked at me and he was like, damn boy, we done leveled up, bro. Like, you know what they say, and it wasn't even our lyrics, but the impact of outcast.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

You know what I'm saying? You want to live. You wanna live in the shit. But stop, bro.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

Yo, that song gets me emotional, bro. Seriously. That song straight 96, bro. I I uh it's it was like a movie. That was a soundtrack to my My mood, we all have it. I know you too. Like that was a soundtrack to my life in '96, bro. That was my shit. Yo, Andre's verse at the end of that got stopped in the mall the other day. Heard a call from the other way that it just came from. Come on, bro. Man, yeah, I know. Come on, man. So you gotta can we go top five? You got top five. Will we doing albums? Whatever, whatever you want. Yeah, just top five.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Top five, bro. TI, I'm serious. Let's go. Wow. Man, yeah, dog. Still ain't forgave myself. Come on, gave myself. Still ain't forgave myself. Um elevators, you have to be number two for sure. Okay. Um I wasn't really a big Luda fan at all, dog. Really?

SPEAKER_01 22:43

I was rocking with Luda for a minute.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

You know what? There's one song everybody loves on serious that mainstream don't give a lot of burn to. It's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I was a big Lil John fan, man. I mean, what an era, bruh. Come on. I lived up the street from him, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I lived up the street from him.

SPEAKER_03 23:08

Lil Jonathan.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yes, I'll put it in the book. Lil Jonathan boy. You had to be there.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

That's one of those you had to be there to see it.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

How old are you, Harrison?

SPEAKER_01 23:14

36. Oh, yeah. Okay. So I have a great little story to tap on. So I worked in radio for 14 years, right? And um, and it was the uh kryptonite, right? Big boy, right that killer might killer Mike, my man, that's where I'm going. We can, you know, big boy was already big boy. He had this aura tune. Remember that the uh the Chipell show, true how you know he had that's how it was with Big Boy, you know. So he was kind of like big boy. But Mike, cool, they were all cool, but we connected with Mike. And we we're always trying to, we're like, yo, why is Mike so cool to us? He's like, Man, y'all boys come up to ATL, kick it. We're like, yeah, let's do it. He's like, I got a spot for y'all, don't even worry about it. I never forget. This is funny. No, that's a great story, though. That's a great story. So I'm you know, I'm a DJ at heart. That's how I got into music. You know, I started DJing, so then started producing. So moving the crowd was my thing. I heard you talking about that emotion, energy, and I had a good vibe for records, and I'll never forget. Mike brought us to the club circuit, ATL, right? This is early 2000s, and uh, we're on one of the he goes, Hey y'all boys, you about to hear the new wave, and it was snap music. Wow, and I was like, I was like, nah, this ain't gonna get broken. A month later, everyone, it was crazy. Yeah, yo, to see that though, like in ATL with Killer Mike. Oh, dude. Shout out Killer Mike, man. What a good dude.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Like, I like the Jeezy remix though, bro.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Yo, we could really we have some good music stories, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out my homie Blizz. We had a group at the time, listen to this, bro. And uh, we're at DJ, like the D outcast DJ's town. He's got like a three-story townhouse, and the bottom is like the boom boom route, like cool table, big screen studios in there. And there were some dudes from New York in there waiting on a killer mic verse, and so were we. He's like, hey, y'all boys, like they pay some grip for this, just hang tight. We're like, hey, we're cool. There's you know, we had some party favors, everything, you know. And Blizz is like Frank the tank, right? If you've watched old school, he's our Frank the Tank. Well, like Blizz, like, you know, have a little fun, but and we come out, it's like Frank the tank, like Blizz is wasted, you know. And we go outside. I actually he disappeared for a minute. We're like, yo, where's Blizz at? Man, I ain't seen him about a half hour. Mind you, it's like cold, it's like 20 degrees in Atlanta. It's we're up there and it's cold. We find him outside sleep like this. Well, yo, Blizz, wake up, man. He's about to die out here. Well, Mike and them happen to come out to take a break in this South Florida thing, right? We tend to call, hey, bitch, hey, Bis. You know what I'm saying? That's our thing. But up there was Shaudi. Hey, Shoddy. So Blizz, drunk Blizz, and Killer Mike are having a conversation. And Blizz going, nah, bitch, but you know, and he goes, Hey, hey, hey, Shoddy, we don't call each other bitch up here. He goes, hey, shoddy, or no, he goes, Hey, bitch, we don't call each other shoddy where I'm from. So we're thinking, did this ruin right the next morning? We go see Killer Mikey. He goes, Where my boy Blizz at? We're like, yo, that was great, bro.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

What a TL's always about what an era. Yeah, yeah. We got Um Serious, okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

My last two, bro. I'm gonna do a Archie episode. We ready? Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

And then uh what a song.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

My my last, it's not even in no particular order, but um, vice versa, man. Pastor Short. Oh, come on, bro. Man, vice versa. Bro, that song still still still hits.

SPEAKER_03 26:40

Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

That now that whole Pastor Show and you name like three epic.

SPEAKER_03 26:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

You name like three on the do not do not play list songs, yeah, as a DJ. Like that club's gonna get torn down. Yeah, tear the club up in the comments.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

No, I think in my era, dog, you was knock if you booked. Yeah, the crown models. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Oh man, yeah. Another do not play. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

Never go wrong. Man, bro, that was uh we're already we're we're there, bro. Yeah, we're there, yeah. We're pushing the line. Hey, here you're sim, bro. Let people know where they can find you, man.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

It's ever, bro, at Double Tap Coalition. Double tap coalition. Everywhere you want to see me, bro, at Double Tap Coal. I see that hat too, man. That's that's fire. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, appreciate it, man.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Or you can just uh I want to say thank you for uh being on the show. This episode has been dope. Yeah, we appreciate you taking time out of your day to sit here and talk to Lil' Ola.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Yeah, touch on real quick, just like what's next, bro? What's this range?

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Okay, that's okay. That's the big thing. It's the message right now, and um, I'm pushing heavier back into this whole content creation thing. Yeah, but primarily, man, it's the range because that's big, bro. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Just continuing on what I'm doing right now. That my next step is just focusing on building this range. Okay, yeah, man, that's where I'm at with it.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

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SPEAKER_03 28:03

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SPEAKER_02 28:23

All right.