Can Excellence Be Learned? | Gabby Franco

What separates good from great?

Olympian Gabby Franco believes it starts with your mindset.

In this episode of Off the Beaten Path, Gabby shares her remarkable journey from representing Venezuela in the Olympic Games to becoming a firearms instructor, entrepreneur, and mental performance coach in the United States.

We discuss:

• Competing in the Olympic Games
• Building mental resilience
• Sports psychology and performance
• Why mindset matters more than talent
• Coaching athletes, executives, and everyday people
• Finding excellence through discipline

This conversation isn't just about shooting—it's about becoming the best version of yourself.

Transcript

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Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, America all over the world listening in.

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Thanks for all the downloads.

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Hey America.

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Yeah, we're here at NRA 2026 in Houston.

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Houston, H Town. Hold it.

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Uh and today we have an amazing guest. Uh Gabby, I would introduce you, but I mean, you introduce yourself because you're all around. Yeah. Amazing. Yep. Um, you have an amazing story. Let the people know about yourself.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Thank you. Thank you guys for having me. I'm having a blast in the show.

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Awesome.

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Glad to see you guys and have fun here.

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Likewise, yeah.

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So for those of you who don't know me and have for the first time heard about me, I was born and raised in Venezuela where I practiced shooting. Yeah, most people don't even know that shooting was a thing in Venezuela, but it was. And I started since I was like 11 years old in Olympic shooting. So I shot air pistol, sport pistol, precision shooting. And it's funny because most people think that, you know, I just fell in love with the guns. Yeah. But it was actually the challenge. I was like, okay, I don't have to move. The target doesn't move. This is easy peasy. And every time I try, I failed. I was like, every single, every pellet. I'm gonna try it again. I want to try it again. And I fell in love with that. Um, I went to the Olympics, and that passion, if you will, determination got me to uh classify to go to the Olympic Games in Sydney. I was the first woman, Venezuelan, female shooter.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

Let's go. We need some applause.

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There's like DJ Horns going applauses.

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The crowds going crazy.

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So um I went to the Olympic Games, and then in 2002, I decided to come to the United States against the will of everybody in my name in Venezuela. The I, you know, as a young woman, I saw so many things going on in Venezuela. I decided to move, and one thing led to another.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

And here you are.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

It's a long story, man. Come on. We're here for it.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

I like it.

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There's so many layers to it already.

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And it's a great story because the first time we actually met you was last year at uh She Never Quit for the Walmart.

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Yes, correct.

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During that year, me and Erica have been talking because she knows the mission of our agency and with our podcast, she's like, you need to interview Gabby Franco. I was like, I will. It just has to be the time is right. I don't want to be like, I'm I know I'm sure she's busy, and then I've been following you on LinkedIn for the last year, and I know you've been in school. Yeah, congratulations.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

You've been crushing it. Yeah, I was just saying that to her.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

It was an interesting thing, you know. I graduated high school in Venezuela. I went to the university in Venezuela. I was studying civil engineering. So yeah, so like I like math, physics, calculus, and all that stuff. But then I decided to come to the United States and I left a lot of things behind. So there's a gap of almost almost 20 years of my higher education. Wow. And in 2018, when after I had my son, I realized that yes, I could talk in English about guns three days in a row nonstop. But that's it. I did not have the vocabulary and the way to speak fluently about other subjects. And I was like, there's so much to me. Then, you know, I love the pharmacy industry, but I'm not just this, right? And so I went back to my do my bachelor's and I remember signing up for my bachelor's, and the guy on the orders, you know, the I guess the advisor.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

And wow, you're doing this, blah, blah, blah. And I said, Yeah, and I'm gonna graduate 4.0. And he's like, Well, that's like uh like you're just you haven't even started, you don't even know what you're gonna get into it. I ended up graduating with the honors program 390, 3.98.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Wow, hold on, horns, yeah, horns, yeah, some bells in there.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

And then after that, I decided to go to my master's in sports and performance psychology. That's awesome. And um, and you know, it's one of those things that I said, I'm thankful I've been doing it. It's been very hard. Yeah, with my master's was like harder than I thought it was gonna be. But I'm so excited that I was able to do it. And one thing I tell my husband, even if I don't do anything with it, you know, if I don't do anything with it, like I like if imagine that that career disappears from the world, okay. I would say, you know, all those years of knowledge, learning about research, learning to think critically, critical thinking. Even though, even though, you know, most people will argue, oh, they're in school and universities, they're all gonna convert you, yeah, you know, and being liberal and all that stuff. To me, it was a little bit different because I had lived in the world. Yeah, I was a grown up.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

You had that gap, right, right. Like you're going back to that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

I was not afraid to tell my teachers no, this is what I believe and this is what it is. But um, so yeah, so a lot of happened, and I'm just go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

That's funny because I have not said this on the public platform at all. I've been quiet about it. I graduate with my AA and then I got to my bachelor's. AA.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

Let's go. Next question.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Give me a shape. But that was one of the things. Uh I was the only adult my age in most of my classes. And for, you know, I'm I'm in school for business, so a lot of our critical thinking classes are usually math-based. Yeah. Right? And so, but one of the papers I wrote was about the importance of the Second Amendment. So it was a very touchy subject, but we did it. And the most important thing is that, like, it's the cool thing about higher education is you present the information. Yes. And then the person reading decides where did I get this information from? Where is it back? And then it's for us, the people who are writing it, make sure our sight is correct. And I think that's that's what's really cool about higher education because, especially for us, I come from immigrant grandparents, the Peru. For us, higher education is everything. Yeah. For me, I graduated high school and I was like, I'm not going. Yeah, never going back. But my wife has her master's, and then you know, the last 20 years I've been in marketing. He and I have owned a business for the last 10 years. Yeah, 10 years. So it's like, what's next? What's next? I constantly want to improve myself. Self-development is really big for me. So I say that to say hats off. Hats off.

SPEAKER_03 6:36

Yeah, grow, learn. Yeah, I love that. I love hearing that.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

It is.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

I want to go back also because, and correct me if I'm wrong, because like you said, you you are from Peru and you do talk a lot about uh Central and South America that pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 6:52

The the oh the aguadito. Aguadito, I forgot the name, but I don't know that I love Peruvian food.

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Yeah, un poquito, sorry. Um propina. So, and and this is just from these conversations from him here and here. I know the perspective on firearms for the most part down there is like bad guys and police. Yes. So I'm wondering, I'm like how, as an 11-year-old, what was your perspective on firearms and how were how were you introduced to it so young? And it sounds like in a neutral position. You know, you didn't think one way or the other. You're just like, oh, that's a gun, I want to figure out how to use it. Yeah, so I'm wondering how that happened.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Well, my dad, my dad was the one who brought us to the range after he in Venezuela back in the time, uh, people were allowed to have a concealed carry license. So he had to do a lot of hurdles and stuff. And one of those things included a shooting class, which is not surprising, which is great, right? So when he went to the range, he saw a bunch of kids, and they learned that they there they had an Olympic junior shooting team.

SPEAKER_03 7:59

Wow.

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And so it was a sport. And my dad was like, hmm, I have three girls at home.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

Oh, not yeah. So they threw up. Shout out our girl dads, let's go.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

So my older sister started it, and she's four years older than me. And so my dad and I, my dad did not let my younger sister and I start, if you will. We were only doing draft firing. And I was like, like, hello. Like, come on, you know, my older sister always doing the fun stuff. So I think that also spiked that the motivation to do what my older sister was doing and doing the fun thing. But um, it's just one of those things that I fell in love with the discipline of trying to do your best, just not necessarily giving up on it, but understanding how your mind goes, like your mind deviates. And in Olympic shooting, you have to be very, very centered and focused on what you need to do.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

So as an 11-year-old, you know, I did have some people when we used to go to competitions, like especially we used to have like um uh how you call it, um, like an Olympic games within the country, but juniors. So the different sports, every state competed against every state. And I do remember people would say when I say, Oh yeah, I'm a shooter, oh, don't kill me and stuff like that. And you're like, come on. I'm like, I'm 12, I'm 13, you know. That wasn't even crossed my mind, but to your point, yeah. There was a lot of those things, a lot of that thinking, but that never um that never bothered me, if you will, to the point that, oh, I'm not gonna do it anymore because they think I'm gonna be a bad person or anything like that. Um, but I think that has to do with my parents' education and in the sense, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

We talk about that a lot, passing along this information. Yeah, you know, knowledge is power.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Yeah, and you know, and this is the RNA thing. For those of you, you may not have heard about this this person, but uh Gustavo Dudamel. He's a famous director in the Symphony, uh California Symphony, and he's traveled all over the world.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

He's a very, very famous shared some of his stuff on my Instagram. Did he? Oh, I love him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

We studied together in the same classroom. No way. Yes, wow. So this is the same, this is an interesting thing that uh he used to travel a lot as a violinist. That's what he used to do in his youth, was he was training to be a director. He was he's um, I mean, a brain, okay? Oh, yeah. Most of those guys are yes, and I was the athlete, the shooter. And oftentimes we'll go into high school and they will celebrate both of us. I don't remember exactly for the same time or maybe separately, whenever he was always very absent constantly, right? But I would I would be traveling and stuff, and uh, it always strikes me that we're here two individuals who did their best in their respective field, yeah. You know, with their tools that they were using. And back then, nobody saw me blessed than him because I was using a farm. They were praising what I was doing with it, right? Uh, you can do horrible things with music, you know, territory put people in in a very bad mindset, yeah. And oh, at the same time, you can do great things with it. So the same thing with the with my air pistol and my sport, my 22 air sport pistol. Yeah, we were both raised in the same school. We started together. Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

Yeah, it's amazing. No, we've been dropping the studio. I have so many questions. I know. Well, I'd love to know. I know we're jumping around about the like your Olympic experience. How was that?

SPEAKER_01 11:37

It was surreal.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Um, I have to say that, you know, from the moment I earned my spot to go to the Olympic Games, which was in the Pan American Games in 1999, to the Olympic Games, it felt like, you know, those things that you're you're saying, I don't want to think about it until it happens. Because so many things you get stressed out of if you get injured, if you get sick, or every time you get sick, you cannot take medication and stuff like that. So going to there was think about that.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Yes. Most people think, oh, yeah, you're done. No, you have to take care of yourself.

SPEAKER_03 12:14

So strict, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:15

Yes, especially on us and shooting, because our dopping is not to hype us up. Yeah. It's actually beta blockers and stuff like that. And many of the medication that you use, you know, for allergy, for other things, that it slows you down. And so those are why. And so those are the things that you're not supposed to take. So once I passed that hurdle, I mean, I thought I was in cloud nine. I was extremely nervous.

SPEAKER_04 12:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Extremely, extremely nervous. Um, there were politics going on behind the scenes that that could be sorry for a whole different episode. Um, there were politics involved because now, you know, they have spots to go to the Olympic Games after Venezuela didn't have had an Olympian for like 30 years. And then my teammate and I were the after that we were able to do it. So, anyways, it was it was a lot, but I I had so much wonderful memories just going to the stadium from stadium. I even have uh an original brand new ticket, like an entry uh that I still have. Oh, yes, I do. Uh, we had um, I think it was Coca-Cola. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Coca-Cola. So we had they gave us a coin, and I had it, you know, in my little in front of my credential. And I would go to any vending machine, I put my coin, get my drink, and get my coin back. Oh back to my batch.

SPEAKER_03 13:40

That's why you're like, I made it.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

It was like the flowery, okay? You can have any drink, anything, anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Uh you can try it to see if it still works.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Oh, lifetime. Let's go. Um, uh, credential our credential. Everywhere we went, people were like, yeah, you know, it was like we were like superheroes or something. Yeah, that's amazing. Sydney, Australia was amazing. So we had like, I imagine like a compound, like a villa.

SPEAKER_04 14:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Um, and um there, we even have a f I don't know why, but we have florists, we had a nightclub, we had um like a whole room for video games and games. I mean, it was it was surreal. It was I was nerve-wracking for me, the competition.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Yeah, uh's the last time you were at the Olympics, was it that time? Sydney, Sydney, 2000, yes. Wow, so wow, that's weird.

SPEAKER_03 14:39

I can't believe it. That's amazing. It doesn't seem like that long ago, really. It doesn't. Not 26 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

A century. I want to ask you a question about your education. Yes. How first of all, I've said it already two or three times. Congratulations. Thank you. How does that feed your career now? Because you are you said sports and psychology? Sport performance and performance psychology, yes. How does that feed your career now?

SPEAKER_01 15:08

So let me backtrack a little bit. Okay. I started my bachelor's in marketing.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

And then and then uh after I had one class I wanted to take in psychology, because marketing has a lot of psychology. So you have some psychology classes, I got I was hooked. It brought me back to what I learned, what you know, the coaches, my coaches and everything when I was a high performance athlete. And so I changed to psychology. Yeah, and so that alone helped me a lot understanding behavior. Yeah, okay. So when people, like when I see people, it's not like I'm analyzing you, although I am.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Oh, yeah. As soon as you said psychology, I'm like, I do that all day.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Yeah, I'm constantly analyzing people.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

So you know, there's a lot of nuances to it. It's not like I'm gonna say, you know, know everything, right? But uh, but it helped me a lot in in the far as a farms instructor. Sure. It helped me a lot understanding. Yeah, you know, instead of the oh, you are just anticipating, I'm like, mm, there's more to it. Let's go into the needy greedy. And it was boom, magic. I even use psychology on my son. I was like doing my math. I was using my bachelor's, oh you, you know, classical conditioning and this stuff. I'm like, okay, hey, let's tell you something to myself. I was like, it works.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Right. So it's funny when my wife does the psychology on me.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_03 16:35

Go ahead, go ahead. I was gonna say, I just want to give you your flowers because we saw it firsthand at the she never quit. Yeah, like you were amazing the way you handled everyone so different. Oh, yeah, it was like it was unbelievable to see firsthand.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

It puts you in a different perspective uh not just what I want. I need to meet my students where they are at. Come on now.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

That's gonna be the quote for this episode. I need to meet my students where they're at.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Yes, and you can you can literally see it happening, yeah. You know, as in real time as the next one.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

They were like, whoa, it's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Their eyes like opened up and stuff, and of course, we didn't have much time to really cement those things. Sometimes I hope that that sentiment and that understanding carries on. But how many times happened to you that you understand something?

SPEAKER_02 17:25

You don't wow, this is my kingdom.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

And then time passes, and we're like, What was that again? Like, how did that happen? Right. Um, so sports psychology is a deep diving into that. Now I'm I'm using apply strategies to help individuals. Now, the beautiful thing about sports psychology, because with a bachelor's in psychology doesn't leave me to anything. You need to have something else, like a license, something. There's nothing with just a bachelor's. So I did my my bachelor's and my master's in in this degree because it allows me to work on the field that I love, yeah, but it gave me a lot of latitude. You see, a counselor can only work on one area. Right, yeah. I don't. I can work with CEOs, I can work with corporations, I can work with team building, I can work with athletes, I can work with a uh public speaking individual. And so it gave me that latitude to talk to and work with a lot of different people. That's awesome. And you know, in psychology, I see in the big scheme of things, I see the big chunk that we talk about all the time is mental health. Yeah, you know, and and those are individuals are extremely uh important in our society. I see them as those who take people from the darkness or try to from the darkness, right? Mental health and all that stuff. And my field is very tiny. Most people don't even know exist. Yeah, and the way I see my field is that we push people to greatness. Yeah, we instead of of course, there are things that if I if I'm not clinical psychologist, so there are things I have to say, oh, I need to refer you or something. But for most things, hey, we have always we have all been sad at one point.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Yeah, the same education, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

Right, and so it's transform that thinking, transform those feelings, and give them the sh the shift that you need to see so you can like, okay, I understand then, I can move forward.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah, man. Hold on. Yeah, I yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

It's a lot, yeah, it is. Uh I love these conversations though. It's that's that's a great, great point. We were just talking earlier, like Mike, yeah, about mental health, you know, and I love that aspect of it. Like we said, it's just it's I think it's a like you said, shifting your perspective, right? It is even that little bit can can help you. Oh, you know, like you said, you make this this you you give power to something, right? Negative or positive, yes, and you can turn it into something that's inflated, right? Inflated. Yeah, and you might just have to look through a different lens.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Or even pop it so it doesn't exist. Yeah, and I can't even imagine what that looks like for Olympians, and you're a former Olympian, but even on the like when you're training people, we had uh Lenny Oakley on last season, and she was talking to us because she has um photographic uh and I was like, Do you use that to your advantage? She goes, Of course. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think about typically when I think about sports, I think about like agility and talent. I don't think about the mental side of um how can there are, I'm sure there's because remember people said LeBron and Michael Jordan both of them.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Tiger Woods, too, look at his dad.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Yeah, uh game before it's even it's even being played. Yeah, and so that level of thinking is amazing to know that you I like what you said, you elevate though to their under terms, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

There's a sweet, it's a sweet spot. You can be so great and everything you get get burned out. Yeah, you know, yeah uh and look, I read an article from Michael Phelps not too long ago, I think a month ago, that he said that he prohibits his children to go into swimming. Really? Right, because he went so into it, not only he pushed the push that he received without the real support he needed, like there's a balance. And I think that's the part that we missed in the world nowadays, especially I think more here in the United States where the thriving is so ingrained that you have to make it, yeah, you know, or break it. And it's it shouldn't be like that. Okay, we ideally is that we move like a wheel, right? Um, and put it like a pie, right? And so what happened if one of pieces of the pie or two or three are just hollow, right? It won't go forward as fast as you think it would. Yeah, and so it's it's that area. That's why uh my business imp mindset is win the moment, win your life. It's like we need to live more in the moment. Yeah, uh, those dreams are important, it's our north. Yep, they are, but you have to live in your moment, yeah. Okay, um, and that's what is gonna give you that peace of mind that you can, you know. 100%.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Yo, Gabby's spitting y'all. I don't know if you know, but yeah, Gabby is going bar for bar right dropping gems right now.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Okay, so now let's switch pace a little bit. Sure. This is gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Because this c this part of the segment can go anyway.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Gabby Franco, right now, who's in your top five music artists? What is Gabby Franco listening to?

SPEAKER_03 22:31

Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Man, that's hard. That's hard. Could it be anything? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

I'm gonna add on to that, but go ahead, I'll let you. I want to know. I was because I was thinking about what you were you listening to any music at the Olympics. Like, is that part of your preparation?

SPEAKER_01 22:48

And I'll tell you why this is hard. Okay. Because off the range and on the range, or right before competition is two different things. Yeah. Off the range, I would listen to Metallica, Pearl Gym, corn, red hot chili peppers. Yeah. But I also listen to merengue says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and during the competition or before that, I will use uh we listen Barocan uh music. Yeah, classical music. That was my music. You love Baroque music? I that was my thing. And I I that was my thing. In fact, I had uh a mini disc paint, you know, the minute actually cool minute disc that you used to record. And I still have it. I'll send you a picture. I'm sure I need to find it. But um I had my Baroccan, Barocan music. Yes, and that was my uh to stay in the moment to it's just I don't know how to explain it.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

You know, yeah the intensity of Baroque.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

Yes. We'll have to shoot, we'll have to put that on the if she sends the picture, we'll drop it in there for the for the people watching.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

My favorite thinking music will always be jazz. Okay, I have to go into strategy or think what the next two, three years, four years looks like. I go into jazz. Yeah, I'm just sitting in that jazz. It's like everything else becomes new. Yeah, and I'm able like the little people in my brain are like, and I'm like, just thinking. Yeah, just thinking. And so that you just blew my mind with the Baroque.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Yeah, that is a great question.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

I'm glad. Yeah, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Like right now, I don't necessarily listen at much, but one thing I'm into a lot is uh just um acoustic guitars, but they played the acoustic guitar with mother song, mother song, so I enjoy it a lot because you get the classic stuff, but you're like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

It's gotten a feel right, right. It's it's the perfect marriage of both worlds. That's awesome. Yeah, my mind, my mind is just like you got I can see when it's pinned up too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Because she really came out of left field with some of the things you said. But it's accurate. Yeah, I should have known that, like Merenga and Sounds like you know.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

Yeah, I love from Metallica to Merengue. That's that's awesome. Yeah, I think. South Florida's a melting place. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

Gabby lived in South Florida for what was it? 13 years.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Really? Yeah, it's a Mayan Doral. Yeah. Oh, shout out to 305-954-561. He's very 786. 786.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

So he's very familiar with the culture of the different aspects and textures of Latinos.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Oh yeah, because you're gonna have you know, people that rock music or classic rock and then merengue, and you're like, oh yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:35

The hips start moving, you cannot move my hips, but yeah, I can I can observe people doing it. Yeah, I'm like, oh no, yeah, not working.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

And the shift is immediate.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

So what's next for you? Well, I'm you know, working with my new business imp mindset. Uh work, I'm already working with uh athletes, uh, people in corporate corporate. Yeah, yeah. Um, I'm working also towards my certification um to become a CMPC, which is a certified mental performance consultant.

SPEAKER_04 26:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Um out of 400 hours, I'm three quarters. Oh, you know, yeah. So then I need to do that.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

What's that? The air horns? Yeah. To do the tennis and some lighters.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

And you know, and trying to shift my where I'm gonna go with this. Like I'm saying, there's so many things I can do. I can work with athletes. One thing I'm I would love to is law enforcement.

SPEAKER_04 26:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Uh not necessarily as a farms instructor. I don't want to be uh because I don't do tactics or anything like that, but I want I would love to work with them in the mental performance with the knowledge I have and tactics, you know, my limited knowledge in that area, but mostly shooting and stuff and elevate that. I do believe in the law enforcement. We have, you know, the elite police officers that go to every class or you know, are practicing constantly, but then you have that probably are I don't know, guessing 10% of the force. And then you have the other big chunk that they don't have that much support and they are doubt, they doubt themselves. They can barely pass uh the qualts and stuff like that. So if I could do it, I would love to elevate that, you know, and we should. I think we should elevate that in a way. Um, you know, so for everybody, really.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

We talk about that. For the citizens, yeah, get out, yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

And for the the force itself.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Yeah, so anyways, um I'm just gauging stuff, what I'm how I'm gonna do things. Um, that's why I'm putting a lot of um mental performance tips and stuff, which again, this is something that you can apply to anything in life, and that's the part I really love about it.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Yeah, that's uh so where can people find you?

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Social media or well, they can go to Gabby Franco TS4, like Top Shot 4. Yeah, that's my handle for Instagram. They can find me on YouTube for Gabbyfranco.com. Um, Gabby Franco.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

AMP website?

SPEAKER_01 27:58

My AMP website is ampmindset.com and or gabbyfranco.com. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

And for all of you listening or even watching, please like, share, subscribe. Oh, wait, we missed one. What's your everyday carry?

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Oh, yeah. Oh, we're on the rap. That was the rap portion. Okay, yeah. I yeah, I was just gonna say one one thing, I'll piggyback off that real quick. Just training every day, you know, and for everyone on any level, just continue to train and learn, empower yourself. And it's not just power.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

And I think I we we although we say training every day, I think we have to also be realistic. I think sometimes we nag so much into that people say, Oh, I don't train every day, though I'm not that good or anything like that. But most of the days like you know, you miss a whole month, you miss a whole week. Just pick it up. Sure, you know what I mean. Um, try the best you can to keep training as much as you can. Yeah, you know, uh, because life gets life gets in the way. It does it does in the way.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Life be life, and sometimes it's it.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yeah, my PDP F series, not millimeter.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yeah, I knew it would be something good. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Yeah, I love my Walter. If you didn't know, I'm gonna leave you like that because we probably need to go. But yeah, yeah. That PDP F series happened because I went and gave a training at the Pennsylvania police troop uh the troopers in Pennsylvania. Yes, they were shooting uh ate uh big gun, I think it was a six-hour legion or something, 45. And these women, I mean, they were doing the best that they could do with a 45 double stack hangle. Okay, it was humongous. And I did a training after I left, or even I guess after the first day or something, I talked to my my friends at Walfair. I said, come on, dude. I can't believe there's no manufacturer that who can make a firearm that can give you the capacity, the you know, you know, like uh I can interchange magazines, but it's at the same time give me a grip that women or even people, even guys, they're guys who have medium or small hands can do. Well, I was like ranting, believe it or not. I'm very good friends, the people at Walthard are awesome. So I was like ranting. A year later, the year, they called, they sent me an NDA. I'm like, okay, cool. What is this? And they brought me in. That's awesome. And say, Gabby, you remember that conversation that we had? Boom, here it is. So what they did, they they reduced the trigger bar, they brought the trigger back. So they did some uh changes in the gun that didn't change the full complete structure. Use the same magazine, but you still have a gun that it's not like oh seven rounds now, single thing. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I'm gonna put a pink on it so it looks lady-like or something like that. Uh, but yeah, that's part of it. That's part of the story of the PDP. So I'm very proud of uh, you know, who put that that I put a little bit the seed. I mean, the engineers do everything. I didn't do anything, you know what I mean? But you planted the seed.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

Oh, we said, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Just planted the seed and make it happen and being so uh successful, yeah. And in not only the civilian but also in the law enforcement field, it's wonderful to see.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Let's go. That's yeah, hold on. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Yeah, some more horns with the horns. All right, I think uh I think that's a good wrap and that was amazing. It's because two things, Gabby. I know you have to be at the booth here, right? Yes, I do. We appreciate you for being on our show. Thank you very much. You're amazing all around. You guys are awesome. I love you more now. Yep. Uh we're happy to connect with you and follow you.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

Yeah, always rooting for you. Yeah, amazing. Same here, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Like, share, subscribe, buy a firearm, go outside, get your mental health up, that's it, get your training up, and uh go be adventurous, go live, live your woman. Yes, bye-bye.

SPEAKER_03 32:03

Bye bye.