Are Suppressors Worth It for New Gun Owners? | Chris Graham

What happens when you inherit a 75-year-old manufacturing company?

You find a way to innovate without forgetting where you came from.

Chris Graham, President and CEO of Yankee Hill Machine (YHM), joins Off the Beaten Path to discuss suppressor innovation, family legacy, manufacturing, and making shooting more approachable for new firearm owners.

In this episode, we cover:

• The future of suppressor technology
• Modular shotgun suppressors
• Family-owned American manufacturing
• Why suppressors are ideal for new shooters
• Innovation in the firearms industry
• Making quality products at an accessible price

Whether you're new to suppressors or fascinated by American manufacturing, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of the industry's most respected companies.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:17

Sink, sink, sink, sink, in sync, sink, sink.

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America.

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America. And the world. Everywhere.

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Yeah, we do get bad colours across the globe.

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Yeah.

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Guys, we're here with uh at the NRA 2026 in Houston.

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Yeah.

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We're here on Voices of the Second Amendment, Media Row, as we like to call it, if you work in the industry. And we have uh uh amazing guest on today, um Chris from YHM. Go ahead and introduce yourself, man.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

Yeah, guys. So I'm I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me on the show. And yeah, I'm Chris Graham. I'm the current president and CEO of Yankee Hill Machine Company. Yeah, let's go. Hold on. Let's go. You can't hear it. No heck, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

A lot of people don't like to hear how they sound.

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So I know I sound terrible. I'm just used to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

So tell us, man, tell us about what you got on the video.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

Yeah, you brought you, we got you brought some stuff. Yeah, I brought some stuff today. So uh for those who aren't familiar, we introduced our Victor line of suppressors last year at SHOT Show with the Victra 12. So that was our first foray into shotgun suppressors, and it was extremely well received. I've got compliments from people all over the industry as well as the customer base on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Let's go.

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Uh, and so the logical next step for it was a 20-gauge version debuted in SHOT Show this year. So we've got the 12 on the bottom and it's 12-inch configuration, which is how it ships, and then the 20 on the top and it's 10-inch configuration. Now, how do you clean the inside of that? So the entire thing comes apart into the individual baffles. Really? Yes. Let's go. Really? That serves two purposes. One is for cleaning, like you mentioned, and two is this is actually a modular suppressor, also. Okay. So you can take this down in two-inch increments. Uh, in the case of the 12 from 12 inches to six inches, and in the case of the 20 from 10 inches all the way down to four inches.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

And what instances would you want to do that, like for practicality?

SPEAKER_02 2:07

So it's basically for the shooter to be able to cater exactly what they want out of the shotgun and out of the suppressor. So if you've got a really long barrel and you're going bird hunting and you don't want to be adding an extra, you know, foot to your rifle or shotgun, you can shorten it up and make it a little bit more maneuverable. Yeah. If you've got, you know, a home defense gun that's nice and short, you keep by the bedside, but you want it to be as quiet as possible in case you have to rip off around, then keep it in its longest configuration and get the most sound reduction.

SPEAKER_04 2:35

Man, I go ahead. I love that y'all did it modular like that. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

And go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

What is the well, I'm as a as a sound audio guy, right? I'm wondering what what is the difference? Like, what's the the decibel level difference from it being at it?

SPEAKER_01 2:50

I think at that level it's sound pressure, no? You're no longer measure measuring decibel, like we're measuring decibels, so we're measuring the the pressure levels.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Yeah. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:59

Yeah, so is it uh, yeah, I guess what's from it at its lowest, smallest form to how it ships, like what's the difference there?

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Yeah, so even in their smallest form, which is the six we recommend on the 12 gauge, uh, we're still at like 140, 140 decibels. Uh in its full length configuration, we're talking like low 130s, like 135, 136-ish. No way. Uh, and even even better performance on the 20. The 20 is honestly just silly. And it's full configuration, we're in the low 130s, and in its four-inch configuration, like, you know, in the size of your hand shotgun suppressor, we're still like 139 decibels.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Is it is it machined like all in-house, the baffles?

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Like, yep, we all have machined all in-house. So the uh the parts that you can see right now are the aluminum outer shells, and then each one of those shells has a steel funnel, which basically keeps all of the shot, you know, kind of aligned and contained, yeah, until it actually reaches the muzzle end, which is where we have our choke, yeah, and then it goes out into the atmosphere like it's designed to. That's cool, dude. That is impressive.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Yeah, because we are audio guys, we graduated from audio school, like you know, stuff like this. There's there's uh another company somewhere in the space that I heard has a very specific term in regards to the ear. But you know, that there's people like on social media, oh, it's not truly a suppressor, it doesn't really suppress the sound, or yeah, it's not a silencer. I don't care what the hell people decide to call it, it does what it's supposed to do. Yes, it reduces the the the break of sound in when you're firing a firearm.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

It's a gun muffler, is what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Exactly. Do you have any audio guys on board that like help with like you know, fine-tune the suppressor?

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Um, not so much fine-tuning. I mean, we've got obviously you know audio equipment to do the measurements and things like that. Um, but it's one of those things where it's so subjective tonally. Yeah, um, especially for people in the shooting industry, because honestly, half of us are deaf anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're trying to help prevent that.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

And our brains running for tenfold.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

Well, I was a DJ and audio, so like I've been blaring music or shooting guns when everything sounds suppressed to you, right? They're like, dude, where's your ears at? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um man, I'd love to like how long was it from like someone saying, you know, it'd be cool, you know, if we came up with this, like ideation to actually come into market with this.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

So that was a really long time. So I had kind of like a half-baked idea, napkin sketch in my head for a shotgun suppressor for a long, long time. Um, and we we finished up our uh our last big project, which was the Bad Larry, the 338 suppressor, and I said, guys, I want to do something totally different. You know, we've been doing you know, rim front or center fire and rim fire suppressors forever. I want to take a stab at a shotgun suppressor. That's cool. And so I kind of explained to them my idea and gave them my napkin sketch, and I said, you know, I don't even know if this is gonna work, but this is kind of what I want to, you know, my baseline. I want to see what you guys come up with, and you know, I'm sure you can do something better. And they're like, Yeah, I'm sure we can do something better too. We're degreed engineers, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

We're creative at heart. Yeah, I think your drawbiz is.

SPEAKER_04 6:05

Hey, give us that napkin. No, that's awesome, man. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

You know, the first time we heard of y'all, we were at a range day uh in Georgia. Uh I don't remember whose it was, but we were at a range day in Georgia. And um, and uh we actually met your team there. We're like, I had never heard of the company before.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Yeah, was it during a hurricane?

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Yes, Cancon.

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Yes, yeah, I think the first CanCon. It was Can Con.

SPEAKER_04 6:28

That's a good call. That's a good call.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

They were out there laying down bales of hay to try to keep the mud under control. The quietest event in the station.

SPEAKER_04 6:35

Shhh shh Cancon. Cancon, can't but yeah, that's fun. That's like right here.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Fire firing through through your product was really cool.

SPEAKER_04 6:43

Yeah, it was cool.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

So now I know there's been a change of the guard. I kind of looked into a little bit of the story of YHM. I know before you guys were going by Yankee machining, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Yep, Yankee machine.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

Uh yep. So how long have you been sitting in your position now?

SPEAKER_02 7:00

Uh I've been in my position as the sole owner for two years now. Nice. That's uh so I'm still kind of getting used to wearing all the hats. I used to share that responsibility with my brother, but uh, he wanted to pursue different different goals in life. So uh now it's just me at the helm subscribe. Yep. How did you get into the firearm space? Uh so that's a much longer story. Okay. Okay. So when my grandfather started the company, they were a screw machine shop, and that's exactly what it sounds like. They made screws and nuts and bolts and threaded rods and things like that. Um the name actually comes from where they started the business. Yankee Hill. It was locally known as Yankee Hill, was that neighborhood. You know, you won't find it on a map or anything like that, but everybody in the in the area knew what that was.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

And uh so yes, while we uh you know, unfortunately are Yankees, yeah, that's where the name comes from.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

Uh and so my grandfather was a veteran, he was a forward observer in the Korean War.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Oh my god.

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And he wanted to get into military contract work.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 7:59

And so Springfield Armory, which was still at the time an active armory, yeah. He worked with them to get the cage code and everything sorted out, get our cage code number, and uh start doing some government work. And one of the first projects that we did was work with a uh Army engineer at Springfield Armory to develop the cleaning kit for the M16.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

And so we made the cleaning kit, the rod sections, the centers, the handles. Um sorry, there's a bit of childhood trauma in my head from putting together tens of thousands of those kits at the school.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

No homework for you.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Not so you do another thousand parts tonight. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Thousand? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Hey mom, is it time for dinner?

SPEAKER_01 8:40

No, not yet. That's cool. Wow. Yeah. So you got a rich history and you got a lot of knowledge. Uh until you, so you did you go to school for like design or engineering?

SPEAKER_02 8:48

So I went to school for several different things and never finished any of them. Uh I originally went to school for business management, uh, and I was honestly just bored out of my mind. You know, I was a big math and sciences kid. And so, you know, when I started taking like accounting classes and stuff like that, I was like, yes, I know that this number is bigger than the other one. I understand basic math. And so I was really bored, and so I transferred into an engineering program. Cool. And kind of the same thing happened there. You know, I knew I wanted to be a mechanical engineer because I wanted to design, you know, widgets and things like this. I knew I didn't want to design- I can't get away from math. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew I didn't want to design, you know, bridges and highways and buildings and stuff like that. But I spent two years in that program doing all of the mandatory stuff where you know it's introduction to electrical engineering and introduction to civil engineering. And after two years of that, I called my dad up and I was like, Dad, I feel like I'm actually getting dumber at school. Like, I think I want to come back to work. Yeah, and um he said, Okay, uh, we'll get you on a plane to SHOT Show next week. And that was my my first SHOT show. No way. When was that? When was that? Yeah, uh, that was I think 22 years ago at this point.

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Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

Yeah, there we go. We need some sounds, some sound effects.

SPEAKER_04 9:59

They're happening though. Yeah, yeah, we can see them visually. We see some meters.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Wow, so 22 years of SHOT Show. Yeah, that's a rich family history as far as like even just the entrepreneurship grind, because yeah, you know, that's a thing now. Yeah, being an entrepreneur now is like terrified, but man, really back in the day, to be a small business owner, it was almost like a uh kind of like uh look down your notes, yeah, yeah, type of thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, my grandfather and his business partner they quit their jobs at the battery factory and said, We're gonna do this, and hopefully it works because everything we have is invested in this. And if it doesn't, we lose everything. You know, our house, our everything. Everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, so this came out uh a few months ago at SHASO. Yep. What what else are you guys working on, or is it super under wraps right now?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

We're working on a whole bunch of different things. Um, none of them are far enough along where I can really talk about them. Yeah, respect that. You know, but we're looking at things in the additive manufacturing space to see if 3D printing has a home with the Y Jump product line. Uh so some new things there, some old things there as well. Uh trying to do things just differently and see if we can, you know, make a better mousetrap. Sure. We are machinists at heart. Uh my family's been doing it for 75 years, but I'm not blind to the fact that new technologies are out there that may be better served. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

So I will say this our podcast, we're a funnel into the space. Most podcasts in our space essentially feed conversations already existing within the space. Yeah. Ours is designed to bring people who are looking to explore the outdoors in the Second Amendment and bring them in. So that said, obviously, as a news shooter, we're not new shooters, but as a news shooter, there is this whole like, wow, suppressor, suppress shooting. One of our friends who's now he's a massive influencer now, his whole thing is be civilized, shoot suppressed, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so um talk a little bit about like what are some entry-level suppressors that you would recommend to like, I know there's the plinging, the 22 stuff.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

But like, what would you say to the average person? Like, do you have anything catered towards that doesn't know where to start?

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Entry level computers.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Yeah, a few hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Anything that YHM offers for. None of ours are going to be a thousand dollars. The most expensive suppressor we make is the V12 and the Bad Larry, and those are sub-a thousand. Yep. Um, we're talking $350 to $400 for a 22 to get in there and start shooting, you know, um 22 LR, $22 mag, 17 HMR. Yeah, that's not bad.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Good blank. We've talked about getting a few uh suppressors because man, like honestly, he has a pretty massive backyard and go.

SPEAKER_04 12:41

And I I'm un I'm unincorporated, so yeah, we should be good. And both our hog hunts were were suppressed. When it's one of those things, right? Like you become bougie. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, once you shoot suppressed, you're like, oh man, that thing's not suppressed.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

Uh I don't even really want to fire that. Like, I don't want the noise, the concussion. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Kind of like a seatbelt.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

I don't really want to drive a bit of a lot of things.

SPEAKER_04 13:04

But it's true, like, once you know, you know, it's one of those things. Like, yeah, it's it looks it always looked cool to me. Yeah, right. I always because I think of movies, right? Any mob movie I saw is like, you know, they're clapping guys in the parking lot walking with the suppression. And I'm like, that's sick. Is that really how how well it does?

SPEAKER_01 13:23

You know, and yeah, and yeah, we've uh Suppress 22.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Yeah, yeah, that's about as close to Hollywood as you can get.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. That's a bark.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Hollywood is different from the real There it is. Yeah, you're not gonna be John Wick shooting at somebody in a subway, and then you got 500 500 passerbys having no idea something's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:45

Reading the paper still, people are getting clapping. Yeah, yeah. That's good, man. I love the I was because I was gonna ask the price point on those, so that's that's good. They're both sub a thousand.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah, and that's our MSRP Street Fights is usually you know $150, $200 less than that. So wow, that's cool. But uh you bring up a great point about you know, new shooters. So suppressed firearms are a fantastic way to get people into shooting. Yeah, because you know, you're trying to learn the discipline, but you're also trying to learn it safely. Yeah, and if you have someone, especially a new shooter or uh younger kid, if they're afraid of the boom, the bang, and the recoil, they're gonna be flinching, they're not gonna have good trigger control, they might even be closing their eyes when they take the shot. If you can get the scariness and some of that recoil and sound out of there, they can focus better on the fundamentals and become better shooters. That's a great point.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yeah, hold on, let me know.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

Yeah, that's a great turn. Maybe a little less intimidating.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

Yeah, that's gonna be the quote from this episode.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Yeah, that's good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

So I don't know if you've seen, but we like roll out quotes from all of our guests.

SPEAKER_04 14:47

Yeah.

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Because, you know, honestly, so our I know the world is designed right now, digital, to scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Yeah. We decided in addition to the scroll content, we're gonna do uh image quotes to slow people down. And that's proven to be really cool because you know that it's cool to have people on our podcast that are not only providing information for the listeners, but if you're actually just scrolling on our feed or on any feed, yeah, something slowed out. Who the hell is this guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's more the business lingo.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

Business lingo. Put on that hat. Let me take off this hat and put on can we go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I want to switch gears at some point. I don't know if we're ready to switch lanes.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

No, we're I mean, look, we're flying. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

Can we can can we talk music a little bit? Yeah, sure. Get into that bag. Like what uh I don't know. Are you are you a hunter? Do you get out and hunt a lot?

SPEAKER_02 15:41

I don't have the patience for real hunting. Okay. Uh I've done some ranch hunts and things like that. We've done some company sponsored hunts. Um I'm not a morning person and I'm not a patient person. Yeah, I like shooting targets because I know they're there. I like shooting clays because you know there's something actually going on happening.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Hunting Upland birds. That wasn't a music question, but I was gonna ask. So, okay, so we'll we'll we'll play this scenario.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

When you're designing stuff.

SPEAKER_04 16:05

Oh, that's a good one. I was gonna go road trip because I know we lock in to our playlist on the road trip. Starting the road trip off, got a few hours ahead of you.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

What are you queuing up first? So this changed recently in the last couple years because my wife and I recently bought a motorhome, and so we're doing a lot more traveling in the way. Okay, sweet. Uh, and so whether it's actually playing or not, as soon as I start the motorhome up, Holiday Road starts playing in my head for the vacation movie. That's good. Yeah, that's good. So whether that actually comes on the radio or not, that's in my head, and then it's usually shortly followed up by uh Eastbound and Down. Oh classic, classic, yeah. Yeah, nice. Uh and then usually after that, my wife gets bored and she takes control of the playlist of listening to a podcast. So it's some kind of true crime, horror, murder, something terrible is happening to somebody for the next six hours while I'm driving.

SPEAKER_04 16:55

You stop at the rest stop, like go, go, go.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've listened about truck stop murders for four and a half hours, and now I gotta go to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

You're giving her advice. You know, if you would have had a YHM surprise, you would have heard it.

SPEAKER_04 17:11

Babe, we're at Bucky's. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

All right, I guess so.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

Okay, that's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

So, um, where are you guys still located in the northeast?

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Yeah, we're still located in Massachusetts, about 15, 20 minutes from uh where it all started.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Yeah, we we moved into a new location in uh fall of 2017. Let's go. Um, and that is only 10 minutes away from the old plant, which we've been in since the early 60s. So wow.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Oh, you know what I wanted to ask? Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

I have to hold on.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

I have to ask this.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

Axe.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Axe. Let me ask this question. All right. The uh tax stamps, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Yeah, like how has that affected the ends? I mean, that's been fantastic for business.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

There's always been three main barriers to entry in the suppressor world. You know, it was the wait time when it was ten months to a year, it was a $200 tax because you're already buying, you know, let's face it, a fairly expensive, you know, luxury product. Yeah. And then, you know, the registration and you know the forms and all that.

SPEAKER_04 18:09

So what is the wait time now?

SPEAKER_02 18:10

Wait time now is like three to five days in most cases. No way. Yeah. Three to five days. Yeah, it's as close to like just over-the-counter transfers as we've ever gotten. Wow. And so that barrier to entry fell a year, year and a half ago. Yeah. And then, of course, with January 1, the tax stamp didn't technically go away. It's just zero dollars now.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

Um, so I mean that's huge.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

That's good information. Yeah. So it's still done, you're just not paying for it. Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

So you know, listeners, what's being said right now is that if you get yourself a firearm and you want to be even safer than just eyes, ears when you go to the ranch, you can really protect your ears by going to get your application for a tax stamp, get your buy your suppressor, and you'll have it in three to five days for the for the most part.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

For the most part, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

And business. Wow, that's impressive. Yeah, I imagine we talked a lot about this.

SPEAKER_04 19:04

Yeah, you know, there that's uh that's uh Well, we wanted to see how it would play out, right? When everyone was like, oh man, it's gonna be was it crazy? Because that went into effect January 1. Yeah, January 1st this year.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Yeah, actually, uh to ATF's credit, they did a fantastic job with that rollout. You know, we were expecting eForms outages and all kinds of problems, and nothing. Yeah, there were problems, but you know, they fixed them and got it running, you know, relatively smoothly. So honestly, props to them.

SPEAKER_04 19:30

Man, that's a great position to be in for y'all.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Um, when when uh you know obviously when everybody knew the big beautiful bill got signed and it was gonna happen, you know, through the summer in the early fall, we saw a slowdown. Yeah, uh, and I told my guys, no, we're not slowing down. I'm still gonna look at increasing production.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Yeah, because you have to ramp up for the January when the flood gate opens. Yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

So has it did it like spike and now it's kind of uh state center? No, it's spiked and my demand is still increasing. Really? Yeah, my backlog is still growing as we've added more people to the first and second shift, you know, new equipment, more efficient equipment, new processes. Let's go. Oh, man. And that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

I need to get there. So I then said Massachusetts. I just he said I I don't know if the uh we've had so many conversations. I travel to Maine most years, so half of my neighbors up there that are there in the summer from somewhere in Massachusetts. You gearbox copy. That's one of my favorite. I'm not making fun of y'all, New England. I love it. Oh my god, Bob, what's going down uh in South Florida down there every year, every summer? Um, but I have some good friends from up there. Where are y'all like what's the closest kind of big city to y'all?

SPEAKER_02 20:36

The closest big city for us is gonna be Springfield Mass. We're about 20 minutes away from there. Okay, cool. Yeah. Of course. Yeah, so we're actually closer to like Albany, New York, or Hartford, Connecticut than Americans. Okay, yeah, y'all are like up, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're we're way on the west side of uh get really cold. It gets cold in the entire state, but we're in like the like redneck hillbilly part of the state that nobody wants to really talk about. Yeah, yeah, that's cool, man. I like to say, you know, we don't have the accent, we don't have the attitude.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

I know. I was when you said that, I was like, Massachusetts, no way. Because it gets heavier and thick. It's like the South, right? Like in Maine, like sometimes I have like I'd go, I was into RC cars as a kid.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Sound like Boomhauer?

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Yeah, yeah. I found this track that was like in the backwoods of Maine. God bless my stepdad, he brought me out there, and I'm this little kid, and this guy's like, Well, you know, telling me the classes, that's where you got your band card, got your gearbox card, and I'm just like, oh man, I need subtitles of this stuff. I'll sign up to get anything. I was like, just put me in one of those, brother. Sounds good. Yeah, that's awesome, man. Yo, so uh, I guess um, yeah, look at that. We're we're oh yeah, pushing 20 minutes. Yeah, we're that was good. Is there anything like you feel, I don't know, maybe like questions you see all the time on social media or you know, something you see a lot, maybe a misconception, anything that you see on your side of things that we maybe didn't touch on.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

I think the only thing that I see is you know, because we're kind of a more value oriented and budget minded you know, brand, um you know, that's how we kind of got our start in the gun world. You know, we make a gun cheap. And exactly, you know, we're we're sort of at a disadvantage because there's a perception that if it's more expensive, it has to be. A Ferrari costs more than a Corvette, so the Ferrari's got to be better. And we're in that same situation where when you look at on paper, you know, the materials, the sound, the weight, the length. Right. You know, when you actually get down to the nitty-gritty and the specs, the warranty, um, you know, it all comes together and says, like, you know, I'll go up against any other candidate.

SPEAKER_04 22:35

So it is the orange is the orangest thing still. Yeah, because we're buy once, cry once guys. So typically, you know, we want to, if we're gonna spend the money, like we want to spend it right. Yeah. So that's good to know, man. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

And that and that doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean that we stray away from buying more affordable products.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

That's not the case. Sometimes one of our compressors, our most affordable compressor is twelve hundred dollars in the studio.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

But the equivalent to that compressor is thirty two hundred dollars. Yeah. We were like, well, let's try this because we wanted an A B. Then we're like, it's like it sounds amazing.

SPEAKER_04 23:08

Yeah, it's freaking close.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Like, let's keep it. And so we have what, two of them?

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

And so it's like, man, what was the bar you said? Just because it's more affordable doesn't mean it's quality is compromised.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Yeah, there's a difference between inexpensive and cheap.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Yeah, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

A thousand percent. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Cheap, you're gonna buy a thousand times because it keeps breaking. Right. Inexpensive means you have some uh uh some good business minds at the company that were looking out for your dollar.

SPEAKER_04 23:38

For sure. And for the listeners, is there's still people not watching this, like you can see these things are solid, like they look good, they look like they're manufactured well.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

These are these are plastic, right? These are just 3D printed samples. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they are, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

But that's no way.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Yeah, but even the the real ones, the the 12 gauge is 22 ounces in its biggest configuration, and the 20 gauge is like 20 ounces.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

So y'all did a great job with these. That'd be cool if these pull apart.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

I think some of them actually do. I just didn't bring any tools.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Oh, because that's what I oh wow, look at yeah, you can't. Yeah, that one's different size. Okay, don't break it, Bob.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

All right. I already broke some things this morning.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Cool, so where can people find you? Where can you stay updated with what you guys are doing? All the socials.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Yeah, our socials are uh official YHM. Yep. And YHM.net is the website. Yeah, nice and easy. Uh, not yhm.com. YHM.com is a Canadian airport. Uh and they refuse to sell me that domain. So one day one day they're gonna forget to re-register it and it's gonna be mine. Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

We'll tell you off-air, the oh yeah, the way around.

SPEAKER_04 24:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

Because we've been absorbing a bunch of like uh that's funny.

SPEAKER_04 24:45

That's where my mind went as well. Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Well, so I guess let's wrap this thing up. Uh Chris, thank you, right, Chris? Sorry, yeah, Chris. Yeah, Chris, thank you so much for being on our show. We appreciate it. We appreciate you, you know, giving the information, especially to the newcomers into the space. A lot of people, they just buy firearms and they don't know what do I do next.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

Yeah, what direction to go in, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Yeah, obviously, with the zero tax stamp, I can get one of these.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

This is accessible, yeah. It's not a year out. And great job with the 3D printing.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I thought these were and so yeah, thanks for being on the show. We appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate it. All the listeners, like everyone whose downloads, we appreciate your support, your love. Make sure you like, share, subscribe, leave us a comment. And comment if you guys want have anybody you want us to interview. All right, other than that, like that. Stay safe and go have fun, America.

SPEAKER_04 25:31

Stay dangerous, too. Yeah. Alright.