Jesus is King: The Triumphal Entry | Episode 44

In Episode One of the “Jesus Is…” series, Jenny and Kalynn reunite to kick off a  new journey through the identity of Jesus. 

Together, they dive into the story of the Triumphal Entry, unpacking its deeper meaning and the fulfillment of long-awaited prophecy.

As they explore this pivotal moment, they reflect on how Jesus reveals Himself not as a conquering king of earthly power, but as a humble King who brings peace, purpose, and salvation.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

But kings rode on donkeys at the time to symbolize peace. They rode on horses to symbolize war. And so he rode on his donkey because this was ushered in a time of peace. He's trying to, you know, offer salvation to Jews and Gentiles, and that's what he's ultimately saying through that. But also, there is a day that is coming where he will get on his horse. A horse is coming.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Hi everyone, and welcome back to For Heaven's Sake. It's been a hot minute since we've been together, and I am your host, Jenny Morgan. And I'm Kaylin Jones. And we're excited to be back together. We've had um a lot of great interviews here in the past couple of months and um kind of gotten a break from I say teaching here, teaching in a lot of other different ways, really busy. Um, we've had some pretty crazy schedules, but we're really grateful to be back and um doing the thing. So um our like plan for this series is to really deep dive as we lead into Easter and then also talk after Easter um about the resurrection. So uh if you're new to For Heaven's sake, welcome. If you've been with us for a while, welcome back. We are here to teach and to dig into the word and to do all of those things. So we're gonna do that. We're gonna do that today and over the next couple weeks as we enter into the Easter season.

SPEAKER_04 1:37

And today we're talking about. Do you want to tell them what we're talking about today? Or do you want me to? You can. Okay, we're talking about how Jesus is the prophesied Messiah, and we're gonna break down the story. So we're gonna break down several prophecies. We're gonna break down the story of the triumphal entry, and we're gonna read scripture from Matthew 21, right? Yep. 21. And I'm gonna let Jenny read that.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

All right, so this is Matthew 21, 1 through 11. It says, As Jesus and the disciples approached Jerusalem, they came to the town of Beth Page on the Mount of Olives. Jesus sent two of the men on a head. Go into the village over there, he said. As soon as you enter it, you will see a donkey tied there with a colt beside it. Untie them and bring them to me. If anyone asks what you are doing, say, The Lord needs them, and he will immediately let you take them. This took place to fulfill the prophecy that said, Tell the people of Jerusalem, look, your king is coming to you. He is humble, riding on a donkey, riding on a donkey's colt. The two disciples said the two disciples did as Jesus commanded. They brought the donkey and the colt to them and threw their garments over the colt, and he sat on it. Most of the crowd spread their garments on the road ahead of him, and the others cut branches from trees and spread them on the road. Jesus was in the center of the procession, and the people all around him were shouting, Praise God for the Son of David. Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the Lord. Praise God in the heaven, in the highest heaven. The entire city of Jerusalem was in an uproar as he entered. Who is this? They asked. And the crowd replied, It's Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee. Um, and we wanted to start here, obviously, as we enter into this Easter season, um, and or kind of coming to a culmination in the Easter season, um, because this is, and I guess this is kind of where we'll start that this is not only him coming in and fulfilling the prophecy from Zechariah that we'll read in a little bit, um, but also the first time that he is willing to be publicly recognized as the Messiah. Um, so excited to dig into that as well. But before we kind of get there in what we want to talk about, Caitlin has some interesting backstory on kind of setting the scene in the place. So go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 4:06

Okay, so this is taking place. This whole event of the triumphal entry is taking place in the season of Passover. And Passover is when the city, the city would have been at max capacity, it would have been slammed full, it would have swelled with people. There probably would have been around five times the amount of people that would normally be in this area. So I live, I still just an update. I get I think I gave you a little update already on the camper, but so I live right now in a uh a campground that has been slightly that hasn't hasn't been very busy. It was pretty much ours to ourselves there for a little while. And last night and this weekend, all of a sudden there were people everywhere, and I was like, it is camping season. You could tell there was a um a troop of Girl Scouts that made like 18 tents over to us, and we were watching them, and then last night it was a storm game, and so we were like watching them all night long to see if they'd give up and go. And we woke up this morning and they were still out there, so they braced the storm all in their tents and everything, and so this is what this reminded me of was just how you know, and we live close to the beach being in Mobile, and you could tell when the summer's here, like all the tourists are here, and I even think about like Mobile is um big into like Mardi Gras, and like during that season, there are extra people here and you can tell that there are extra people that something's happening. So, this is what would have been happening at that moment. There would have been lots of extra people.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Hold on, I want to pause too. Okay, go. Not only would there have been extra people when you talk about being passed it being Passover, there also would have been extra animals for sacrifices. That's where I'm going.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

Okay. Okay, so some Jewish historians will say that there were approximately 256,000 lambs slain. That is over a quarter of a million lambs slain. So this is where I get my numbers from, okay? Okay. One lamb is approximated to feed 10 people. So 10 times that number is about 2.5 million people that could have been in Jerusalem at this time to witness this event. That's a lot of people. And it takes place in one of the scriptures that we read, I think it's verse 8. It is and a very great multitude spread their clothes on the road. Others cut down branches from the trees and spread them on the road. So both times it says something about roads. So I started digging into the roads and me being, I always know if I get into the like Roman Empire at all, that usually that's that's safe territory from like what because we've told y'all before that we don't really go over what each of us have until we just kind of start. And so I know that when I get kind of off the rails and into Rome, that usually that is something Jenny doesn't have in her notebook just to try to pull something out. Like just in case we're talking all about the same thing. So I looked at the roads, and this is all about Rome. So roads were really important during this during the ancient times as they are today, they're still very important to us. They connect countries and cities and people, and that is where goods and that's where all the goods and merchandise is sold. So you to have a thriving economy, especially back then, you had to have good roads. So roads were the key, and roads were one of the things that made the Roman Empire so so successful. In the time of uh the Roman Empire, they built over a quarter of a million miles worth of roads, and five about 50,000 of those were paved. And some of those roads you can still walk on today. They're still just thriving. And the reason why is because you that is the key to like their money, like you want them to do good so that you're doing good, you know. Also, looking at it from like a military standpoint, with all that political tension, also that's like how they got their army from one place to the next, had something go haywire, they had their their army go out. But the Romans were what made the Roman roads more successful than other people's roads, or kind of what we look at are are still there today, they were very strategic in not just building their roads, but protecting their roads. So they had armies stationed all over, soldiers stationed all over their roads to keep from hijackers and murderers or thieves. Like they wanted to make sure their people were safe so that ideas could get from one place to another, so that merchandise could get from one place to another. But what they didn't know that they were doing is that they were actually paving the way for the gospel to be preached around. So what they didn't want in, they were actually paving a way to get to, and that is the same roads that they built for merchandise and armies and war and greed, maybe like all those things were also the same road that Paul was gonna walk down in order to get the gospel to the Romans. So that was just a really cool thing to me. And it's also the roads that we see them throw their coats and their palm branches and things, which is amazing.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Um, so we whenever we titled this or when we were talking about it, him being the prophesied messiah, I wanted to go whenever we did our Christmas series, we talked a lot about um like him as the fulfillment of prophecy. Um, and so I wanted to talk about him as the fulfillment of prophecy, specifically as being the messiah, him identifying himself as the Christ and doing things so that those around him would recognize that he was the Messiah. Um, so I'm gonna go to Zechariah 9 and 9. Um, and all of like if you look at your Bible and titles and things, um, that section of scripture is titled Zion's Coming King. And so it says in Zechariah 9:9, Rejoice, O people of Zion, shout in triumph, O people of Israel. Look, your king is coming to you. He is righteous and victorious, yet he is humble, riding on a donkey, riding on a donkey's colt. Um, and one of the things that uh, you know, kind of sticks out is that it says, Shout with triumph, your king is coming, he is righteous and victorious. And during this time, like they thought that he was coming, and we've talked about this before, but they thought that he was coming to like to not not like bring vengeance, but like to be a king who would like take them from Roman rule, and that um that he was that that's the way that he was coming. Um, and then it says like, but hold on, he he is righteous and victorious, yet he's humble. And that that transition, and I think too that if all these people are in Jerusalem for the Passover, they're seeing him come in to fulfill prophecy as the Messiah. And I'm sure they're thinking in that moment, like pray um in the end of it, he's talking about them saying, Um, Hosanna, Hosanna and the highest. I'm gonna flip back to it. Yeah, Hosanna, praise God in the highest heavens. Um, that that word, and I this was something that I was like studying that the crowd was saying, Hosanna and the highest, and Hosanna is Hebrew for two words. Um, and I'm gonna butcher this, and that's okay. It's Yashana, which means to save or deliver, and then it's it's naw, which is a sign of desperation. So they were like crying out for the Messiah to save them now. And they weren't thinking in the same way that we think. Like whenever we repeat this, like Hosanna, Hosanna and the highest, like we're saying him like, save us from our sins now. Like we recognize that, but they were saying this in the literal save us, save us now, save us from Roman rule now, in this like cry of desperation. And he's writing in them as they're saying this, knowing that that's not that's not why I'm here. I'm here to do something totally different. Um, something that you haven't even thought about up until this point.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Um, but I am. I am gonna save you, but I'm not gonna save you in the way that you think I'm gonna save you. Um, and I think that that uh that I I had never thought about it in that way, that the duality of saving them from Rome is what they were hoping for versus saving them from their sins, which is what we recognize.

SPEAKER_04 13:35

Last week, uh little I talked about that a little bit last week in my study of Peter class, when Peter rebukes Jesus, like he says, and Jesus is like, get behind me, Satan. He was telling him he didn't have to die. He was actually saying that because of his belief in what the Messiah was gonna do. He was actually like, No way you're gonna die. Like you're gonna conquer Rome. Like that was actually a a mirror in their belief. Like, what are you talking about? You're gonna die. And like, no way you're gonna die. You're gonna you're gonna conquer Rome. Like it was, it was even some of his disciples, all of his disciples probably thoughts were get us out of here. Get wrong, get show Rome what's coming. Like, you know, and so I also have written in here because I did talk about this again last week, about how that will happen. He is coming on a horse one day.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Like, so I didn't want to get too far into that. I didn't want to get to the second coming because I thought we were gonna like touch on it a little bit. Okay, well, I'm gonna touch on it.

SPEAKER_04 14:43

Okay, sorry. But kings rode on donkeys at the time to symbolize peace, they rode on horses to symbolize war. And so he rode on his donkey because this was ushering in a time of peace. He's trying to, you know, offer salvation to Jews and Gentiles, and that's what he's ultimately saying through that. But also, there is a day that is coming where he will get on his horse. A horse is coming. Are you gonna touch on the donkey, any? Not him specifically. No, go ahead. I'll go on the donkey. Yeah, go ahead. So let me see. Hang on, y'all. Well, we talked a little bit so far about like the humility of God and riding on the donkey, but also one thing that I noticed there is a a scripture in this where God is actually humble. He says something humble. He says this. It's in verse three. It says, and if anyone says anything to you, you shall say, The Lord has need of them. God doesn't need anything. He doesn't need anything. Like that is God humbling himself to say that he needs something. He doesn't. And if he needs a donkey, there's a donkey. What he's doing here isn't he's in desperate need of a donkey, somebody go find a donkey. It is God needs a donkey, and God says, I'm gonna give man opportunity to give me what I need instead of me just doing it ourselves. And so I started thinking about like my son and my son CJ and Caleb, and how there are lots of times I we have a little helper. CJ's first word was actually help. Really? Like he would say help, help, help, and then it would turn into help you, help you. He wanted, he just wanted help. He said, Help, help, help you. So I have a little helper, and um, so we were actually in a revival service. Somebody, I can't remember which one it was, started like coming down and asking, like, what was your child's first words? And it was he, I think Teresa said mama, and she was like, Yeah, mama. I was like, Oh, I hope he doesn't ask me because my son's first word was help, help you, help you. Um, but that's what I think of is like my little boy, help you, daddy, I help you, I help you. And Caleb's like, Okay, you can help me. And you know, he gets his like little rubber hammer, and what's he actually doing? Nothing. Yeah, you know, but at the end of the project, Caleb goes, look what we did. And he feels so big, and he feels like he accomplished something so much bigger than himself, and like that's what God's doing here. He's like, help you. I help you. Like, you can give me a give, like, you can help me bring me that donkey. Go get a donkey for me.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

I think too that up until this point that they had not been used in their own, like themselves had not been used, that Jesus had been doing all the things. And so it wasn't that the disciples were the ones who were alongside them helping. And so he's like, Okay, I'm gonna ask you to do this, and when you do it, they're just gonna like you're gonna see that when you do things in my name, yeah. That like it doesn't like it's gonna be given.

SPEAKER_04 18:22

To do God's will with. That's when they're worth the most. I just think it's a really cool picture of like what God did there. Like, yeah. So you can help me.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

And going back to um, you had said this, and I and I can read all the way through it just so that we can get both both perspectives of it, that you were talking about whenever um Peter uh was saying, like what we just talked about that he basically that he had to die, and he says, get behind me, Satan. That's the same exact scripture that I was gonna pull from um talking about that this whenever he comes in in the triumphal entry, that he comes in as the messiah for the first time, say being willing to publicly identify as the messiah. And so this in before this, and it's in multiple places, Matthew 16, Mark 8, and Luke 9, that he warns them once they say you're the Christ, he warns them not to say anything.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Um, because it wasn't the appointed time, but it happens in the same vein as what you just said, so I'm gonna read it. So this is in Matthew 16, verses 21 through 28, and it says, From then on, Jesus began to tell his disciples plainly that it was necessary for him to go to Jerusalem and that he would suffer many terrible things at the hands of the elders and the leading priests and the teachers of the religious law, that he would be killed, but on the third day he would be raised from the dead. But Peter took him aside and began reprimanding him. Can you imagine reprimanding Jesus for saying such things? Heaven forbid, Lord, he said, This will never happen to you. And Jesus turned to Peter and said, Get away from me, Satan. You are a dangerous trap to me. Which tells me too that Jesus was listening to his friends and like he was so close with those that Peter had influence on him in some kind of personal way.

SPEAKER_04 20:14

Do you want to know the craziest part of this though?

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Okay, what?

SPEAKER_04 20:17

Okay, so right before, right before that happens, they're at Caesarea Philippi, uh-huh, and he tells, he he says, Who do you think I am, Peter? And Peter says, You're Christ, the Messiah. Uh-huh. You're the son of the living God. Okay, what made that so profound was not that he called him the Messiah. Everybody was kind of catching on to that. The thing is, the Jews believed that that the Messiah was going to come. They had no clue it was going to be the Son of God or God. Okay, they did no idea that that was the case. They were looking for Moses, they were looking for a Joshua, a David, maybe, a Jesus, no way. Okay, they weren't, they weren't. So then he Jesus himself says, God told you that. Uh-huh. Okay, he didn't say it like that, but he says, God told you that.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Because my father in heaven has revealed this to you.

SPEAKER_04 21:16

And you're right. And because you're right, you know, I bless you. I will build my trust on you. This proclamation right here. This is where I build, this is the rock, this is the moment for Peter. Right, stinking before he comes. Oh, what he leaves Caesarea Philippi, they're walking away, and he says, Get behind me, Satan. You can't don't tell me I can't die. He says, Get behind me, Satan. Just a minute ago, he was telling him, That's it, you heard from God. Then he's saying, That's that's Satan, get behind me.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

He said, You were seeing these things merely from a human point of view, not God's.

SPEAKER_04 21:58

And so the human point of view, that's That is his view of what the Messiah was gonna do, which was give Rome what's coming. Yep. And he said, Peter, you don't have it yet.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

You don't have it yet. But can you imagine like being that close to him and then still not still not being in tune with what was happening? Oh, but when Peter gets it, when he gets it, boy, does he get it.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

Peter grows up in sentences. Yeah. He goes from to I mean, he has a come to Jesus literally.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

Literally.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

I could go on for 45 minutes. Go ahead. Go ahead, girl. I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna quit. Is that not crazy? It is wild. A minute. A minute before. He was like, yep, good job. I don't know that it was a minute. Yeah. But be before. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Not long before.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

He was like, Yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

But as he's entering in, he's he doesn't correct these individuals. He doesn't tell them. So in Matthew 16, he's saying that he certainly warned the disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. Yeah. To being willing to not correct those.

SPEAKER_04 23:11

And over and over and over again. It's a theme to the miracles Jesus performed for him to follow up with. But don't say anything. Keep it quiet. Yeah. Because he knew the consequence. And then it had to happen in the Taliban manner. And that's one thing that you see from the beginning of Jesus' ministry. He goes into the wilderness because he's concerned about his father's talent. Like he is constantly concerned about his father's time. Which how could you not be when you've got a when you're the Messiah? Okay. I can't imagine because I am not. He said that clearly.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Clearly. Um, okay, I want to move to Zechariah 10 and 4, which is going to talk to us a little bit about who specifically Jesus is in his lineage, um, which I think you're going to speak to a little bit also. So I'm going to go to Zechariah 10 and 4, and it says, From Judah will come will come the cornerstone, the tenth peg, the bow for battle, and all the rulers. Um, so this jumps directly to Luke, um to Luke 3, where he goes through, and you can pull from Matthew or Luke, whichever one that you had um kind of pulled out, but that he talks about that he's it follows the lineage from Abraham to David to Jesus, which it talked in their tribe of Judah. Um, I was gonna flip to it, but did you have something to pull out on it or no?

SPEAKER_04 24:37

No, I I could highlight any of the people in the lineage and all of the prophecies that were there's so many of them, but I mean the one that sticks out to me and one that we already covered that just feels like a good thing, good time to bring it back around is that of the promise of David and how he was promised that promise of a house that he was building, and that house wasn't a house that you live in, it was a lineage and it was a dynasty, and we see that happen immediately through Solomon, but then we see it long term happen again through Jesus. So that was just the one, but there like I said, there's so many that you could break down and talk about.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yeah. Um and you can go to I'm not gonna read all the way through this because it could take a long time. Um, but Luke 3 goes through that when Jesus was about 30, he began his public ministry, and then it goes from Jesus all the way back to Adam. Um, and then talking about being going back to God as well. Um, but him promise that promise that there was a promise to Judah that the appointed king would come from his lineage. Um, and that's all the way back in Genesis 49 as well, but that Zechariah was able to foresee in time that this would happen, that all the prophecies that he had heard before this time would be fulfilled in the near future. But I mean, there is that the what an intertestimonial period. Um, but you see, Zachariah is like at the end of the Old Testament, and then this is happening at the beginning of the New Testament. So that division in time is not great. It's not a great division in time, um, but that um he could see, you know, and and be able to prophesy that this that the king would come from um the tribe of Judah and that in this he would be the cornerstone of the church, that he would be the foundation of the church. So I just wanted to point that out as well.

SPEAKER_04 26:47

I was trying to think back because that was it's it's about 500 years. That Zechariah 9, um let's see, I got some notes on it. Yeah, it's 500 years, is what I have. Prophesied 500 years before. So I was trying to think how far back is 500 years for us. For us?

SPEAKER_00 27:03

A long time.

SPEAKER_04 27:03

It's like 1800, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:07

I guess it is all right. When did Christopher Columbus sell everyone? In 1492? So it'd be like Christopher Columbus. But what I'm thinking is like, you know. Yeah, I think it's 1492. Brendan, do you know? Come on, Brendan, look at it first. Hang on a second. Just a second, we'll be right back. I'm gonna play some music that didn't. I don't even have my phone. This is why we wouldn't do well on Jeopardy. 1492? I got rocked. Get out of here, Hundo! 1492. The verdict's in everybody. So that would have been about around about 500-ish years ago.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

And you know, we We know about Christopher Columbus, so they knew about just to put it in perspective.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

It feels like a long time ago now, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

But in the same way, like we talk about the people that found, like, you know, found America. These are the people that were like, oh, this person prophesied about the Messiah, and here he is. Yeah, and here we are living in the.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

They were talking about how, you know, like we talk about Thanksgiving, like the story of Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Even though some people, you know, they get a little hot topic, but I didn't know.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Uh forgive me if I offended you by saying Thanksgiving. You can watch another podcast. I'm just kidding. Just kidding. Who can change the channel? I don't have anything else, I don't think. Yeah, yeah, me either.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

I just I just think to start this off, like we hear you know, we we celebrate Palm Sunday in church, and you're always gonna hear about it.

SPEAKER_04 28:45

But just do you know that we would not even know that they were palm trees if it weren't for John. We wouldn't have a palm sundae.

unknown 28:53

Why?

SPEAKER_04 28:54

Because he's the only one that calls them palm trees. The rest of them just say branches. We would have branch Sunday. Stick Sunday. Yeah, stick Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Oh, can we hold on? We have not had this, we have not recorded together on the podcast since our um disciple revelation. You know what I'm talking about? That we talked about the disciples. Okay, so me, me and Caitlin, whenever we're disciple revelation. Hold on. Whenever we talk, our text messages are very comical. So are our FaceTimes. She FaceTimes me in Target, you know. Just one time. But we were talking. I bought a bow. Because it's really cute, it's better than her hair thing the last time.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

I have a bow.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Well, anyways, so we were talking about all the disciples and their number and the fact that there were a lot of James's at the time. But they were also talking about John. And while we're on the topic of John, that Kaylin brought out the fact that John was the only one that called that called John John the Beloved. That he called himself John the Beloved. Yeah. It's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

Can you imagine being like, okay, I'm gonna, this is gonna last in history books forever. And so I'm gonna say that I was the beloved of Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

He's the same man, the same man who will not put his name in certain scriptures for humility purposes. But he is the blood of Jesus. And then two other people followed Jesus that day and were like, Oh, I wonder who it was.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

It's a good time. Bless their hearts. Yeah. We like to talk about the disciples. In case you're wondering, there's a couple Jameses in scripture, they're not all the same James.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

This is uh this is a shock to some.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Some but James, there were two James disciples, and neither one of them were Jesus' brother that wrote James.

SPEAKER_04 31:06

Neither of them wrote James, is what I was gonna say. That was Jesus' brother, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Just in case you didn't know. Some people don't know.

SPEAKER_04 31:15

Yeah. John the revelator wrote revelation. Also, also, here's another thing. So uh historians say that the sons of thunder, which is James and John, were their mom was likely the sister of Mary, the mother of Jesus, which would make James, son of Thunder, and I mean John, son of Thunder and John the Baptist, both John's Jesus cousin. Chew on that.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Maybe that's why they call them two different things.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

Oh, I'm for sure.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

That's yeah, there's gotta be some kind of identifier.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

I know now. I have two Calebs. Yeah. Which, by the way, this is so funny, Jenny. You're gonna like this one. Okay, right. Today in kids' church, we taught on Joshua and how Joshua was told, be strong and courageous. So he was nervous, or God wouldn't have told him that. Like God wouldn't have said, be strong and be courageous if he wasn't a little scared, you know? And CJ yells out, get over it, buddy, and do it already. I was like, that's his that's why his name's Caleb. Every Caleb means a Joshua, every Joshua means a Caleb.

unknown 32:41

That's so cute.

SPEAKER_04 32:42

He said, get over it, buddy, do it already.

unknown 32:46

That's real good.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

And that's so his personality. And I said, and I I didn't even finish what God said. I was like, Joshua was so scared, he was a little nervous because there were giants in the place. They were so big, and and the armies were so big, and he was nervous. And CJ says, get over it, buddy, and do it already. So you named him accurately. Yeah, but anyways, back to what I was saying. That's why they did it. Because I have two Calebs, one's CJ, one's Caleb. One's son of Thunder, and one's the zealot, one is Peter. Bless him.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

Anyways, so Casey, you need to know the lineage of people and who's who and what's what. Like Pastor said today in church, reads.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

Read our text threads and we'll read. I should do it. I think I should just end this episode in like our thread just scrolling.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

You know, I video I video recorded it. Like, you know, screen recorded it.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

No, it would make me look bad. Okay, um, we're not gonna make it. She's a very intelligent lady.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

You know, I just don't always put two and two together to make four.

SPEAKER_04 33:55

Well, I mean, in your defense, that's a lot of Simons, that's a lot of John's, that's a lot of James. Why didn't they have different names for them? I talk about that in the Peter class too. You're just gonna have to come next week.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

I'm in youth.

SPEAKER_04 34:11

And this has been for heaven's sake. We'll see you next time. We'll see you next time.