Coffee, Chaos & Conspiracies
Coffee, Chaos & Conspiracies is where sleepless nights, toddler tantrums, and snack negotiations meet late-night deep dives into government secrets, alien sightings, and the bizarre corners of the internet.
We’re not experts—just two over-caffeinated parents trying to keep our kids alive and our minds open. Some episodes are relatable, some are ridiculous… all of them are real.
So pour yourself a cup, brace for the chaos, and get ready to question everything—including how we made it through the day.
Coffee, Chaos & Conspiracies
Midnight ER Runs and Moon Landing Hoaxes: Just Another Week
We introduce ourselves as Lo and John, parents to two energetic girls navigating the chaos of family life while exploring conspiracy theories that keep us up at night.
• Our week included an emergency room visit after our 2-year-old experienced severe vomiting and stomach pain
• Doctors diagnosed a viral GI issue "going around" - a frustratingly vague explanation parents often hear
• We share the unique challenges of parenting during COVID when our first daughter was born
• There's no such thing as perfect parenting - we're all learning as we go
• We explore the moon landing conspiracy theory and the evidence that makes us question if it really happened
• Key points include the waving flag, inconsistent shadows, and mismatched boot prints
• Next episode will explore conspiracy theories about shopping malls and retail spaces
Keep your eyes open. You don't know what's real and what's not.
Welcome to Coffee Chaos and Conspiracies. Where the coffee is strong, the kids are loud and the theories are even louder.
Speaker 2:Spicy.
Speaker 1:I'm Lo mom, part-time detective of the internet and fully sleep-deprived. My husband, john, and I are here to talk about the madness of parenting and then spiral into the kind of conspiracy theories that we whisper about after the kids are asleep. As you can tell by that scream, they're not asleep yet. If you ever ask yourself is it normal, my toddler thinks band-aids fix everything and also wait, did we really land on the moon? You're in the right place.
Speaker 2:Let's get into the chaos did you think band-aids fixed everything when you were a kid? I think, I think I did too.
Speaker 1:Because I would put a Band-Aid on everything, on every scratch, every bruise that I had.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, anyways, this is our first episode no, our first episode of what's the title that we have? Coffee, Chaos and Conspiracies. So, like how my wife said, we're going to be talking about our parenting life, of how it's been the past couple years having two kids, you know, and talking a little bit about conspiracies and the stuff that flows around the internet sometimes, you know, and those are our kids in the background. Anyways, do you want to talk a bit about our origin, of how we conceived our beautiful babies?
Speaker 1:The birds and the bees.
Speaker 2:The birds and the bees, the special music that that we put on we don't even do that no, but uh, I'm just telling how we met. We met in high school. Uh, you know high school sweethearts in senior year, right and um, we kicked it off from there.
Speaker 1:Kicked it off.
Speaker 2:That's what happens when you have kids with too much energy. Anyways, can you go on with it while I go shut the door real quick.
Speaker 1:Okay. So yeah, like he was saying, we met in high school and got married and now we have two beautiful girls. We have Ellie, who's four, and Kiki, who is two, and that's not their actual names, that's their nicknames that we have for them, but for right now I'll just keep their full names private. But yeah, they're just quite an energetic couple of kids, um, but you know we'll talk parenting chaos and then take you down a rabbit hole or two, and you know we just wanted to do this podcast because besides us being parents and you have two crazy little kids.
Speaker 2:Wonderful little kids.
Speaker 1:We also like hearing conspiracy theories. We love searching those up on TikTok. We love investigating, trying to ask all the questions that need to be asked.
Speaker 2:Right and I don't know. It's interesting to me how many conspiracies are out there. A lot Right.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I like it that we're mixing it with the parenting stuff because, uh, even though we both have, you know, our parents that try to help us during our journey of being parents, we still had a lot of questions, uh, regarding to sleeping schedules, bottle feedings, what to do when they're sick.
Speaker 2:You know, and, yeah, we had our parents and we come from a hispanic household, uh, but it was still, you know, at times when we were living separately not not separately as a couple, but, um, away from our parents that we were like what do we do now, you know? And it's like those moments where I was like I wish I had the answers, I wish I had somebody next to me that could help us out. But I feel like that's why we're doing this to help out those parents in need out there, because I know not everybody has their parents to help them out you know, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:But uh, let's get straight to it. Um, how was your week? I know I've been at home all week because I had my days off from work, but how was your week today's?
Speaker 1:what wednesday yeah it's been okay so far. I mean this week we had to go to the er oh, yes, perfect no, no so we can talk about these screens okay, okay, well, sunday we went to the north premium outlets, which is like a mall but basically has no roof, so it's like it's a little it was.
Speaker 2:It's like a fancy swap meet yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no other way to put it yeah, so we went. We bought hug and does what's it called I think that's like hot dog no hot dogs it's an ice cream, it's some ice cream thing, and then after that, what did we do?
Speaker 1:we just went home um, yeah, well, we gave my parents the jump scare about the uh, the drink that we ordered oh yeah, it's because we thought we were ordering, uh, mango nieve, which, if you don't know what that is, it's basically like mango ice cream with chamoy, which is like a sweet chili sauce, tahin, which is a sweet chili powder, and mango chunks, Mango chunks in it and it's a really good, like you know, frozen treat but turns out.
Speaker 2:Turns out we asked for the wrong thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:So us, we don't drink. So for us, you're. You know we don't like don't drink. So for us, beer, you know we don't like it, we're not gonna drink it. Yeah, and what we ordered was a michelada which is like a, an alcoholic I saw her make it with like heineken, but it was like zero percent alcohol, because you can't sell alcohol at the swamp at the swamp at the uh at the fancy swap me yeah the fancy swap me says no, but the ghetto swap me says yes, oh yeah beer, whiskey, tequila, you know the best, uh, that the mexicans have to offer over there.
Speaker 2:We're mexican, I can say it anyways. Um, we accidentally ordered the michelada and even though they said it was 0% alcohol, like okay, why does what? Does it have alcohol, you know?
Speaker 1:Well, we tasted it.
Speaker 2:We tasted it.
Speaker 1:It was nasty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not our. It's not our cup of tea, um, but yeah, I gave my parents the jump scare Cause. Well, not jump scare. It's just a funny story to them that we ordered that instead of the mangoneda. But was that the night that we went to the?
Speaker 1:hospital, yeah. So after that we came home and we watched, I think, K-dramas, no.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:We love K-dramas. We love Korea.
Speaker 2:Do we have any Korean listeners in the future? We love your culture we love it very much we like any, like other cultures, like japanese oh yes, japanese culture is very nice, especially the samurai culture back in the day.
Speaker 1:That's very nice, like we like different cultures, like that yeah um. But we came back home, we watched k dramas and then for dinner I was like oh, we should eat lumpia again we love cultures, so I heat up the lumpia and the sweet and sour sauce or whatever it's called chili sauce and our daughter ate some as well as we did our youngest daughter.
Speaker 2:She's barely, she's two right now gonna turn three in july well, the end of July. So she ate some that my wife made.
Speaker 1:And I think like 10 minutes after she just went, she just started vomiting. Which is scary when you don't know what's happening and then, I think After that, she started being fussy. She was like wincing how do you say Wincing? Whining?
Speaker 2:Or what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I thought the word was wincing.
Speaker 2:You mean of her stomach pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or I guess whining, Whining complaining.
Speaker 2:She just had stomach pain. That's the first time I've seen her actually show that she was in pain. So not even with our oldest daughter have I ever seen like them showing like, hey, my stomach hurts or this part of my body hurts, you know, it's just um.
Speaker 1:So it's good that she was letting us know somewhere or another that something was wrong yeah, and then I think like an hour after that, she had loose stool, if you know what I mean, all full in her diaper yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:Um, it was pretty scary because she was constantly vomiting and we didn't give her milk or anything. Just because I didn't want to make things worse in her stomach, we just tried to give her uh tylenol for the pain and water just to make sure nothing bad went in there, but it was still it was so just kept vomiting vomiting. As a parent, you're worried because you don't know what's happening especially if they can't talk right and especially because so many hours passed by.
Speaker 1:so when this first started, it was like 10 pm and then at 12 like kept going, and then two in the morning we were like okay this is not going to stop, let's go to the ER. So I asked off work and we went to the ER and, yeah, they basically just told us that it's something going around and what you're going to hear a lot if you're a parent, at the hospitals, at clinics, whatever. They're always going to say oh yeah, there's something going around right now with kids.
Speaker 2:I don't like the answer. I don't like that.
Speaker 1:So what they said was that I guess there's some viral. Gi issue going around with kids right now. That's making them do all those symptoms, and so they just gave us medication for her, but after one dosageage she got back to normal yeah, uh, what say it's wednesday, like you said?
Speaker 2:um, that happened a few days ago. Up to right now, she hasn't not had any more vomiting.
Speaker 1:She's happy, she's playing around, she's eating a lot like too much and it's funny because the doctor told us oh yeah, yeah, she's going to be sick and she's not going to want to eat. And blah, blah, blah, bro, she came back home, she ate more.
Speaker 2:She keeps eating our own food. She eats her food and then it comes over to us. She's like let me get some of that, whatever you're having. So we're happy that she's feeling better. Because one of the scariest things as a parent is having your child be sick.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is so scary because you don't ever want it to get worse and you don't ever want, you know, to see your child suffer like that, because if your child suffers, you suffer exactly, and I think that's a perfect segue to what I want to talk about next.
Speaker 2:I know we got through our week Pretty normal week, besides that whole thing with the hospital. Besides that, we're just potty training her, it's chaotic.
Speaker 1:It's a good thing she was in her diapers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right now she's two, we're a little bit late to the potty training. No, I think two is fine, yeah, not for Hispanics training. Um no, I think two is fine, yeah, well, not for hispanics, you know anyways.
Speaker 1:Uh, nothing's ever perfect for hispanics yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:Um no, but she's potty trained so you know she has her her accidents. Good thing that we have a tile floor to where she pees. We can just easily pick it up and it's not like a carpet where we have to get the carpet cleaner and all this fuss.
Speaker 2:Anyways, it's just a little hassle with her potty training this week, but we're getting through it. She's learning more and more, you know, step by step. We're not rushing it, everything on her own time, but talking about a child being in that moment when we don't know what's happening, let's go back to when we first had our first daughter, eliana.
Speaker 1:Um, that's our daughter's name, eliana, and then the second one's, cassandra I just said while you were gone that I wasn't gonna say their full names for their privacy I didn't say their full names.
Speaker 2:They're fine, they're, they're gonna know us anyways. Um, um, so they're currently fighting right now in the room playing with toys. You know, the whole not sharing time is here anyways. Um, when we first had our first child, it's, it's difficult to know when, when something's up with them, especially when they're a baby. Uh, we were barely brand new parents, you know, trying to figure out what's, what's what with our child. Yeah, the whole feeding schedule, the whole, um, sleeping thing, not knowing when they're okay, not knowing when they're not okay, I don't know. Do you want to explain a little bit more about how it was when we first ran into situations with Eliana about her health? Not that there's anything wrong with her, it's just one of the things that worried me at the beginning was her skin, the condition that she has on her skin.
Speaker 2:Oh, the bumps bumps yeah, the bumps that we were worried.
Speaker 1:That was something oh, like if she was allergic to something. Yeah, like uh, virus or something, something that occurs around that time also was the monkey pox pandemic, because she's a covid baby and then after covid came out the monkey pox yeah, so we thought she had yeah exactly so.
Speaker 2:Because she was a covid baby, there was so many risks and she was a newborn, she had no vaccines. Yet you know, everything was gonna get done, like the vaccines. We got them done and everything at its own time. But because she was born in covid, I was always worried like, hey, well, what do we do? Is she gonna be okay? Because I got covid when she was already born and you were at work. I know you got covid too, but you were asymptomatic, right.
Speaker 1:You didn't show any symptoms or anything, just it was just weird because I my test results showed up online as negative and they call me an hour later and they're like oh, actually you're positive and we're gonna tell, like the people you work for and I was like okay but I was just worried that she was gonna get sick from me or from anybody that had the, uh, the covid, but thankfully she didn't.
Speaker 2:Anyways, I I think I'm going around this too much. I'm just trying to say I think, uh, it's going to be scary as a new parent. If you're out there listening to us today, it's going to be scary and it's normal, you know. But if you have people around you physically, they're going to be there to support you and and I guess at a certain point we're here to support you too we're here to help out those new parents and and those parents that already have kids, maybe that they're looking for answers. You know, we're still growing too. Our kids are barely two years and four years and we're still getting, you know, to know them every day, what they like, what they don't like, but it's going to be scary and and just keep going, just just keep pushing forward, you know you can do it.
Speaker 1:No parent is perfect no, we have.
Speaker 2:We've had a lot of rough moments with our kids and there's some things I regret from our early parenting life that I wish I could take back, because I want to be honest on this podcast. There's going to be those moments where you mess up as a parent, but you have to realize it's, it's kind of normal at a certain point because you're like my wife said, you're not going to be the perfect parent. You have to do your best, obviously, to nurture them, to take care of them, but you're not going to be perfect and um, anyways, uh, speaking of not perfect.
Speaker 1:Was the moon landing legit or not? What do you think?
Speaker 2:I think it wasn't for reals, for reals. I don't think it was why, I'll tell you why I actually have okay. So do you want to know the facts first, or do you want to know the origins?
Speaker 1:of the theory just spill whatever you have.
Speaker 2:In 1976, bill Kaysing, a former US Navy officer, employee of NASA, contractor, published we Never Went to the Moon America's $30 Billion Swindle. This book is often credited with starting the moon landing hoax theory. Often credited with starting the moon landing hoax theory. It says that the motivation in the theory was that the US couldn't risk a public failure. So the landings were supposedly filmed on Earth, possibly in a secret studio, or even directed by filmmaker Stanley Kubrick. But it's just saying that it was fake because at the time we were at a space race, space race with Russia, with the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1:They really took the phrase fake it till you make it.
Speaker 2:So here's some of the reasons why people think that it's not real. Not real first, there was no stars in the sky in the, in the film that you know that was broadcasted to the whole nation of the moon landing. If you look at it, there's no stars in the sky.
Speaker 1:Photos are taken hold, on, hold, on, hold, on. Let me let me. No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me explain it first and then we'll talk about it. It's because I'm going to forget. Okay, of course, there were no stars.
Speaker 2:Don't they tell us that stars are like billions of light years away and the only way that we see them with our naked eye is because they died, or something like that, were you not? At Zion a couple years ago with me, with my family. Uh-huh, did we not look up at the sky at night time?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they're saying, like the stars, that we see on Earth, like from Earth, are like billions of light years away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you can see the same stars from the moon. We have an atmosphere, we have clouds, we have pollution. Right Even with the pollution, we can still sometimes see the stars. The moon don't have an atmosphere. It's plain naked sky out there. It's the space as it is, plain naked. I mean what?
Speaker 1:You said it's plain naked.
Speaker 2:It's plain naked. There's no atmosphere there. I like you how I. You said it's plain naked. It's plain naked. There's no atmosphere there. I like you how I like the moon's atmosphere, naked. Anyways, photos were taken on the moon to show a black sky but no stars. I mean, it was just a black sky, purely black sky.
Speaker 1:Okay, it makes more sense now.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry for interrupting the rebuttal on that is that the camera exposure Was set for daylight conditions On the moon's surface. Stars are too faint to show up in short exposures.
Speaker 1:When was this? In the 70s.
Speaker 2:Uh huh, 1970 something, when they went to space. I still don't believe that. Next one, the waving flag. Oh yeah, the flag that they planted on the moon. The claim is, the American flag appears to wave or ripple in videos, even though there is no atmosphere on the moon.
Speaker 1:Because it's naked.
Speaker 2:Yes, because there's a naked moon made of cheese, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:No, it actually has cream cheese in the middle. It's cream cheese filling.
Speaker 2:Cream cheese is nasty, unless it's on bagels. Cream cheese is so good. Anyways, the rebuttal for this one.
Speaker 1:Why would you say that you love bagels with cream cheese? That's what I said.
Speaker 2:I said, cream cheese is nasty unless it's in bagels. If you eat cream cheese on sushi, nasty. That does not belong there In my opinion.
Speaker 1:On toast is okay.
Speaker 2:Bagel toast or toasted bagel. Anyways, the rebuttal is the flag had a horizontal bar to hold it out. The wave was caused by the movement during setup and persisted because there is no air resistance to dampen the motion make sense because you know once you move something in space, it doesn't stop because there's nothing no, gravity no gravity, no air to make it, you know, stop like how it would on earth yeah, makes sense uh point number. The shadows point in a different directions, not in one direction, but in multiple directions.
Speaker 1:Which doesn't make sense, because there is only one sun, so it should have been one direction.
Speaker 2:So the claim shadows on the moon in the moon photos are inconsistent, suggesting multiple light sources. I'm going to kick your ass.
Speaker 1:You heard that y'all that was a threat.
Speaker 2:Don't copyright us. We're singing something.
Speaker 1:How is that copyright? If anything, it's the karaoke.
Speaker 2:Which one? What were you singing in the first place?
Speaker 1:One Direction.
Speaker 2:Don't sing that. They're gonna copyright you. They're gonna try to get money in any way that they can. They're gonna try to get money in any way that they can. They're going to try to get money in any way that they can. I'll let them split up. Are they not split up?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you don't get to bring it up and still hurt.
Speaker 2:You're going to the big time rush concert. You'll be fine. Anyways, shadows in the moon photos are inconsistent, suggesting multiple light sources like studio lights. The rebuttal on that is uneven lunar terrain can distort shadows. One light soars the sun, and reflective lunar surface materials explain the variance.
Speaker 1:I don't understand a single thing. Me neither.
Speaker 2:It's too scientific for my understanding.
Speaker 1:If you're a scientist, please explain.
Speaker 2:Anyways, the other point is no crater under lunar module. What is this? I looked this stuff up on ChatQBTbt. This is where I got all my things, oh my goodness. And then the fifth one was identical backgrounds. Photos of different apollo missions appear to have the same mountains, terrain and background, even though they supposedly miles apart. The rebuttal on that is that the moon has limited horizon and no atmosphere, which makes this objects look closer. Different angles and lighting can cause confusion.
Speaker 2:Okay, here I'm gonna stop reading to summarize they filmed this in area 51 okay, sure, um, I think, yeah, actually there's a movie about it, no, with, uh, scarlett johansson oh really, I was just gonna see, no, there was no, there's a movie that recently came out with about the whole hoax of the moon landing, that they actually filmed it in a studio, like they're saying it actually happened. But at the same time that was happening they did the recording for the live broadcast to match what they were doing up there. Because, oh, how are you gonna tell me that in 1970, something you can broadcast, something from space?
Speaker 2:yeah the president can pick up a landline and say yo, how's it going up in the damn rocks over there when I can barely get service when I'm in that at the fashion show mall? Yeah, so there's a different theory that they actually different conspiracy theory?
Speaker 1:that they actually filmed the the whole no, I'm talking about the no service at the mall. Different theory. I'll probably explain that one at the next episode. There's a theory of that. Oh baby, yeah, there is, yeah, there is I thought you were just joking about that, okay no, it's scary. Should we save that one for next time? Yeah, I can, I can do that one next time.
Speaker 2:I didn't know about that, but besides the moon landing being fake, like in general, they're saying that nobody has gone up there it's like okay, I would like it if it is like how they were.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is complicated. No, if let's say there's a scenario of you know they filmed. Oh, we also have a dog, so that's why you hear shackles, not shackles. What is it called chains, I don't know how to say in english dog the chain the dog collar. Yeah, they're gonna think that we like our dog, our dog is free.
Speaker 2:She's able to go outside whenever she wants. She has all liberty and rights.
Speaker 1:She's the queen of this house.
Speaker 2:She's petty as hell. That's what she is as hell.
Speaker 1:That's what she is. Look at her, she's so cute.
Speaker 2:You were saying Wait, she's coming. Jesus Christ, this woman loves her dog more than she loves her husband.
Speaker 1:You want to say anything?
Speaker 2:And now she's lowering the mic to it thank you to our guest star nala anyways, you were saying oh yeah sorry, I get easily distracted.
Speaker 1:Um, so let's say there was a scenario where, yes, like we did go to the moon. And what if the people that made the video were just like portraying what actually happened?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's one of the theories.
Speaker 1:But then they would say like, oh, we're portraying what's actually happening Like why not be honest with it?
Speaker 2:Because it's the government. Have you ever seen the government be honest with anything? That's one of the theories. Ever seen the government be honest with anything?
Speaker 2:dang, that's one of the theories like that's what the movie is based on, the one I'm telling you with, uh scarlett johansson and uh some other actors I forgot their names, but that's one of the theories. The other theories that nobody has been on there that the whole thing was fake just because of the cold war that we had with the soviet union at the time yeah, I'm sure that's true, like just because america loves to win.
Speaker 1:We're two-time world war champions. I mean, you know, obviously you would want to win a space race maybe on the verge of third don't say that well, that's inevitable.
Speaker 2:We're gonna see. Anyways, we're not here to talk about that, um, but do you believe it? What do you believe about this moonwalks? I don't think it's true no, maybe at some point, maybe they did film it on a studio here, but I don't think anybody has been up there. That was my shoes no, there's no way.
Speaker 1:No way, that's you don't. No, like, even the flag takes it all Like. There's no way a flag would wave like that, like there's like, unless you can prove to me that there's like. If there's wind on the moon, okay fine, but I don't think I've ever heard of wind on the moon, unless scientists haven't discovered that yet. But if there's no gravity there, either way, the flag should be lifting up. No, no.
Speaker 2:No, it's just. How do I say this? It's not like an upwards motion, it's just whatever way you move, you start moving. That's the way you're going to keep moving, unless something pushes you the opposite way or something stops you. At least I think that's how gravity works. On that one.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:But here's one more thing that the thing didn't mention right here the boot that Neil Armstrong had doesn't match the boot print that's on the moon. It's a completely different boot. You know that boot print that's on the moon, the famous image.
Speaker 1:No, they brought the rock back, or what no?
Speaker 2:They filmed on the video. It shows Neil and all the astronauts stepping on the moon and there's a certain blueprint that they left on the moon, right, they compared it to the suits that they had when they went up there and it's not the same blueprint. So the spaces that they had is not the same blueprint that is left on that moon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's definitely a hoax, right?
Speaker 2:why don't we wrap up while I take care of these kiddos? Okay, it looks like one of them is crying, but that's normal. That's parenthood. That's where you're gonna get into when you have kids. You're gonna deal with two kids, or how many other kids you have fighting back and forth, but anyways, this was a nice little episode to get us started. Um, sorry, it was just distracting. Uh, nice little episode to get us started. Uh, let us know anything else you need to know about parenting, anything conspiracy wise, we'll be back.
Speaker 2:It was our first episode, like I said, so it going to be a little bit rocky, but the more we do this, the more we're going to open up to you guys, the more we're going to let you guys know what's going on as parents, the struggles that we face, the ups and downs. But, yeah, just stay tuned and let's go on this parenting journey together, because everybody needs someone's help at a certain point. I know we, as parents, need help and we're here to give that help to people that need it. The advice as new parents, as parents that are used to it already, because we're not done learning, we're not perfect, and it's going to continue until the day that we pass on, you know. So even when our kids are grown, we're still parents, we're still going to be learning. So I think that's it for today. Thank you, guys for tuning in. My wife has anything left to say.
Speaker 1:Just keep your eyes open. You don't know what's real and what's not fair enough. I'm excited to hear about the fashion show next week it's not about the direct fashion show mall, it's just about like most malls and grocery stores and like just stores in general. But anyway, to hear it, just watch our next episode. Bye.