From Broke Single Mom to Midlife Millionaire with Jeanne Omlor

What if starting over at 54 didn’t mean settling - but soaring?

I sit down with the fierce and fabulous Jeanne Omlor - a woman who went from drowning in debt as a single mom to building a million-dollar business in just 17 months!!! 

Now in her 60s, Jeanne isn’t just running a multi-million dollar business - she’s redefining what it means to thrive.

We cover all the things: 

👉 Growing a business without burning out
👉 Parenting while building an empire
👉 The BS around “work-life balance”
👉 How purpose - not just profits - drives true success.

Jeanne’s story is a wake-up call and a permission slip all in one. 

If you’ve been wondering whether it’s too late to build something incredible, change directions, or go after that dream on your heart… 

...baby, this one’s for you.

You’ll hear us riff on:

• What it really looks like to build a business from scratch later in life
• How Jeanne built her dream with zero paid ads
• Why she never waited to feel “ready”
• And how to own your value at every stage (especially after 45!)

This convo will fire you up, challenge what you think is possible, and remind you that your best chapter might be just beginning.

✨ Want to learn more about Jeanne and how she helps entrepreneurs grow thriving businesses without sacrificing their peace? 

Check her out on Instagram @jeanneomlor or visit her at https://jeanneomlor.com/reviews/

Thank you for spending time with me today on the Thrive After 45™ podcast! If this episode spoke to you, be sure to hit that follow button so you never miss one.

And if you loved it, I’d be so grateful if you left a review - it helps more amazing women like you find this show!

Your journey doesn’t stop here - let’s keep the conversation going! Connect with me at denisedrinkwalter.com, and follow @thethriveafter45podcast for daily insp, tips, and support.

Remember, midlife isn’t the end - it’s just the beginning of a new, exciting chapter! Keep thriving, keep shining, and I’ll see you next time!

Transcript

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Hello and welcome to Thrive After 45, the podcast where we redefine the significance of you for you by you because of you. My name is Denise Drink Welter, and I'm a midlife renewal coach to help women embrace their power purpose. Potential. This show is your space to explore what's possible when you prioritize you Through inspiring conversations, expert insights, and real stories. We'll uncover how to navigate transitions, rediscover joy and thrive inside and out. It is time to let go of guilt and fully embrace the life that's waiting for you. This is the Thrive after 45 podcasts. It is your time to thrive for you by you because of you. It is an honor and a privilege to welcome Jean ler to the Thrive after 45 podcasts today. Jean's story is one of deep resilience. Bold reinvention and a powerful reminder that it's never too late to claim the life you deserve. Starting over as a single mom with nothing but a vision and a strong sense of purpose. John built a million dollar business in just 17 months entirely through organic marketing. Since then. She scaled to multi-millions and helped nearly 500 coaches and consultants do the same all without sacrificing her time, her peace, or the precious moments that matter most with her children. Today, John is a sought after business coach and private label advisor to the top CEOs and thought leaders. But what truly sets her apart is her mission. To help others prosper by turning their personal knowledge into powerful coaching offers, creating income, impact, and freedom in the process. Her work is about so much more than making money. It's about reclaiming your time, your energy, and your sense of possibility. John knows firsthand what it feels like to live in lack of money, confidence. Or direction, and she's made it her mission to help others break through those same barriers. This conversation is not just about business, it's about thriving from the inside out. Remembering your time, your voice and your dreams are worth prioritizing, especially after 45. John, welcome to the show. We are so excited to have this conversation today. I'm excited to be here and I love that it's, you know, after 45, so we all have to admit to at least that we're 45. Right. I love that because I also have a lot of listeners who are not 45, but they are expanding their horizons, having conversations and having information flow in. That gives them new nuggets that they can start before 5 45. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at 45 I was nowhere. I mean, I even, I was nowhere at 45, you know, like I was 54 when I first, well, I was already coaching for eight years. True. But I mean, as far as. Really becoming successful. It started when I was 54. I turned 60 a week ago. So yeah, I mean for people are 45 or under and you know, God bless you, you have so much more time than I did to, to work things out, you know?'cause time is process. You need some time to process. Make sense? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think there's a, a factor, and I'm gonna call it a, a wisdom factor. I know a lot of people think of it as a maturity factor, but I call it a wisdom factor because we've experienced life and we take those golden nuggets of learning that have happened, and there's just an opportunity for us to use that in a new way as we continue to age and evolve, I call it. Does that make sense? Yeah. Age is not a good word. Progress, of course. Of course, you know, there is aging that goes on. But I think we, when we think of aging, you could say, oh, well, you know, wines age well and you know, but I think aging makes people think of decline, right. Instead of progressing. Yeah. I love that age. We all age every day. We're all absolutely right. But you're right. The way the context has been perpetrated for so long, it's like even I've talked to different people even about, um, birthday cards, right? Go take a look at the birthday cards and mm-hmm. The jokes are all there, but it's like, whoa, that's not what is happening anymore. And I love that. We get to experience it differently because we choose. Right, right. And there is a thing that, you know, it's a, a, a thing that we are declining every day, but actually we're not declining every day because we are learning. And therefore, if we're learning more, you know, that there's this book written about, I think it was called The Marvels of the Middle Aged Mind, or something like The Wonders, or, and I read it about. Probably 12 years ago or more. And um, and it was just how people when they get older are actually smarter. It's easier for us to, we have so much knowledge that some of these young people might be smart about like the processes because they're, they're learning tech, but they don't have all that other smart stuff that's called experience and learning from experience in the years of that. So when people say every day is just one big decline, not really.'cause we are learning. I don't feel like I'm declining. I feel like I'm, I'm learning every day. I'm getting better at a lot of things. Perhaps my body might be aging. Well, it is, you know, for sure. But I, I do what I can to slow that down. But I, I don't think it's like, oh, every day is just one big decline. It should be, when does that start, you know, when are we declining? Because they figured out, you know, that people, their brains actually become adult at the age of 32. So from that point, you were. Growing and then you're adult, but you certainly weren't declining before. You're fully formed as an adult in your brain. So I, I don't really get all that. And I think that we are too basing our beliefs on what the scientists say now. Right. But what I know about myself is I have progressed so much since the age of 54, just in wealth, in experience helping people in, in, in, in looking after myself even better. Um. For sure. I look younger, you know, when I was 54. We always look younger, but, you know, um, I think that if we just give in to, oh, well, you know, you know, I didn't give in. That's why I don't look 60. Right. Because I don't, and I know I don't. And, and isn't it incredible that we get to make those decisions? Yes, yes. The power lies within you, for you, by you because of you. The whole context of our show is that your decisions, your choices, the opportunities that abound as a result of our world and where things are at. Even. Even there. Conversation today, I would not have done this. 10 years ago, there's no way I would've been on a podcast, creating a podcast, having these powerful conversations because I was not at a point in time in my life that I was available for that I am now, and I'm choosing this course and providing the context of our conversations, the brilliance, the wisdom. Bringing it into a wider audience for all to benefit from. I would not have done this 10 years ago. Are you kidding me? Somebody would've said, Denise, you gotta do a podcast. I'm like, pardon? Done it. It was so rare. I mean, podcasts were not that common. 10 years ago they, they existed, but it was like, wow. A podcast. Everybody has a podcast now. Yeah. Almost, it feels like almost everybody has a podcast now. Maybe it's just coaches that have a podcast Now. Do you have a podcast? I do. I started it a year and four months ago, but before everybody was saying, get a podcast, and I was not, I was not on that mission yet. I just thought, no, I have lots to do and if I'm going to do a podcast, I'm gonna wanna really be into it, that it's not a burden. So I waited till I had a theme. I thought, okay. And so it really goes well because I have people help me with it. And it's not, not stressful because I got a team in place. Because I thought I can't add something, if it's gonna create more work, because where do you find that? So I have a podcast, I have managers, producers, all sorts of people doing it. I just turn up and I do speak with the people beforehand to make sure it's a fit, because only I can do that, of course. But yeah, no, I mean, I agree. I, there's a lot of things I wouldn't have done, you know, over well. 10 years ago because, well, I didn't have the mindset, I didn't have the resources, it didn't have the money to afford certain things to then, then it would would've been like, I would've had to do everything myself. And then you can only fit so much in the more money you make, the more you can hire people and the more you can create. That's what people don't get. Right. You're not just keeping all that money, you're putting that money out then to build it. And, and like this year is my goal to 10 x. So I have to hire more people. I have to do less of certain things. Uh, you can't 10 x right away. Of course you've got a two x and two x, two x for a long time, maybe three x and then, you know, but 10 Xing is a different whole mentality. So, so how, so let's dig into that a little further. How do you build the capacity to understand that journey of growth in, in business? Let's say you need coaches, you cannot do this yourself. I am a huge, obviously I couldn't be where I am now without coaches and mentors. Mm-hmm. I, I am always seeking help because I don't know everything and there is no way on this earth that I would've gotten where I am alone. Mm-hmm. Same way that Michael Jordan wouldn't be who he would, who he was is without Tim Grover never would've happened. Right. It never would've happened. He was a great guy, but Tim Grover was a large part of his success. Let's be real. Kobe Bryant. A lot of those people, you know, uh, the book, relentless by Tim Grover. I don't know that book, but great book. I'm going to check it out. Yeah, I mean, we know that, that those great superstars of sports and everything, of course might not have been where they are without their coaches. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be. Right. Just the. Mindset, everything. Then they had their other personal trainers as well as the mindset people. So would I be where I am? Absolutely not. Do I still have mentors and coaches now? Yes. I'm always looking for my next one for what I need. Mm-hmm. Um,'cause I, you know, I always think, okay, I have a gap here. Now there's that, you know. You cannot get anywhere without other people's knowledge. It just won't happen. Right. So how do you figure that out? You have coaches advising you and you, you, you just, you figure it out yourself, but it's, yeah. Okay. I mean, I didn't figure this out. I, I realized, I did realize though that, you know, okay, I need to, 10 x was not the, you can't 10 x right away, right. Right's. Just a myth. This whole thing of the Grant Cardone Cenex right away. It's not true. You need to get something going where you have material, you have something, then you two x, then you might, you know, two, and, and for a while, you two x for a while until you are ready where you have resources where you're like, okay, I'm doing a bunch of stuff that if I stop doing that, got the time, I could build other things, but I need people to take those jobs on. And often you'll have a little bit of a dip, which is scary for people. Know. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, um, and then you will get great people working for you and then they'll stop doing, you know, everybody's hard to get good help when you do get good help, they'll be good for a while and then they might not. And so that whole thing, you don't plug a team and you train people, you get them good and you keep training, keep training and then, or at another one and then they might go on. You know, it's human beings are not robots. Right, right. Good point. Now, pretty soon we are be able, gonna be able to use bots for a lot days. And some of that's a good thing because people aren't gonna do their jobs properly. Well, then a bot should get their job. That's just the way I think. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So how do you find, or how do you make balance in your life? Because I know family's important. I know your time is important, your downtime is important. How do you keep all the balls in the air? Do you go heavy, hard and then take breaks? How does that work for you and how did you figure that out? Okay, so I don't sit around like most people figuring stuff out. That's because that's two questions about how do I figure that out? And I love your, your like very organized way of questioning and I have to say that. I don't sit around thinking, gee, how am I gonna do this? Yeah. Because when I first started it was like, okay, you just have to do this. I didn't sit around thinking, oh gee, where's my work-life balance? Yeah. I need to make money. I'm drowning in debt. Yeah. I got two children. The work-life balance, that's, that's not something that comes into it. People are so worried about that. There is no balance. Mm-hmm. Here's the, here's the, the whole thing. There is no balance. There isn't. Just, you're working or you're not. Mm-hmm. You're taking time off or you're not. But if you are worried about the concept of balance, there's a problem. That's the problem. You're so worried. Everybody's so worried about that. Do you think I care about whether my life was balanced or not? No. I have a great life and all I know is it's fantastic. And if I'm working more than other people, well it's'cause I want to. Right. And I sit around going, oh gee, if I wanna take, then I'll just take off 10 days and go to Dubai. Mm-hmm. There's my be and then I'm like, okay, well I'm not working for 10 days here and there tiny bit. Sure. Actually. And then I, you know, took another week off'cause I want to mm-hmm. There's, there's my harmonization. Mm-hmm. Tony Robbins calls it harmonization. Love that. Yeah. People are so worried, oh gee, I can't do that because my work life balance. Oh, it's not a balance for sure. If you're being a terrible parent ignoring your kids, well, there's a problem there. Sure. That's just, you're ignore. That's not about balance. That's just, don't ignore your kids, please. So when you see it that way, that you're gonna do certain things and you're gonna worry about, not worry about the concept so much. Mm-hmm. Ask the questions, am I spending enough time with my kids? Answer is yes. Great. We're good. Now, I wasn't taking week on weekends off when I started because I couldn't. Yeah, exactly. I was, I was not working all day Saturday. No. Because I was spending time with my kids and driving them all over the bloom place for all sorts of stuff, but I was doing a couple hours here and there. I wasn't like, oh no, I can't do a thing on a Saturday. Well, I've got to, yeah. So I just did and I did what I needed to do and sometimes I was putting three or four hours in on a Saturday and sometimes Saturday night, but I was still spending all day with my kids, taking'em to sports and stuff. So I wasn't saying, you know what kid, you're gonna sit in the room and I'm gonna work all day Saturday. Yeah. It's about just fitting it in. Yeah. Sunday I take, I, I always took Sundays off. That, that because the Lord stays, so I take Sundays off. Mm-hmm. But. Would I do a bit here and there? Yes. I'd do a live here and there or whatever. If I needed to, I wanted to, I could, right? Yeah. But generally, Sunday was my day. But I did message people and I booked calls on Sundays. Right. Because I, I was like, well, I need to book some calls because I don't have my calls booked for sa you. So I did what it took, but I never sat around thinking, oh my gosh.'cause I love what I do. So, yeah, that's, so, like yesterday, I took the day off. It's Easter Monday. I thought I'm taking the day off. I'm gonna take my kids on a a day trip. We had a great time. Nice. So I did.'cause I wanted to, I always take Easter Monday off actually. Yeah. I like having two days. Okay, nice. But you know what? I don't take a lot of time off during Christmas. Yep. I take Christmas and Boxing Day and maybe another day that's all I wanna take off. Yeah. Because December's one of my biggest months, so why would I take December summer off? Right? Because I don't think like other people, oh, I don't think, gee, December's coming is gonna be a terrible one. Don't work. I'm like, December's one of my greatest months. I work really hard in December. So when you lose all these. So-called imposed needs. Yeah. Your life is better. Nice. Yeah. And, and what I'm hearing you say is very linked to the concept of our show. By doing it for you. By you, because of you. Yeah. What is best for you? It's not, this is what you need to do. What works for you is what's going to work for everything that you do because it's in alignment and you've gotta play with it. You've gotta understand, like you were saying, I, yes, I do Sunday, but I block it off or I take the time off, but it doesn't mean I'm like, no work that doesn't resonate for you. And well, now I take Sundays off and maybe I'll answer an email. Okay. See that was when I'm you. The thing is this, there's phases. So when I wasn't, ah, do you understand? When I first got online, I'm like, this has to work. Why would I be like, Jean, I'm not making any money. I'm drowning in debt, but I'm not gonna work. No. Right, exactly. People need to have a sense of urgency about the context of their lives. Does that make sense? So what I'm surprised by is that people are in debt, the businesses aren't working. But they have all these non-negotiables. I'm like, well, no. This is not the time for a non-negotiable. Yes. Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. You, I, when you get more successful and you get more help, then you're non-negotiables. Like there's certain things I will not do. I'll have a team member do it, I just won't do it. Sure. But I used to do it. Now that's my non-negotiable because I have to get things off my plate. Right. But before I was like, no, I'm just gonna do whatever it takes. And even now I'll do things if a team member can't, okay, I'll do it then. Right? They're sick or whatever, you know? Of course I'm not gonna be, no, I'm not gonna do it. It needs to be done. But. Things change as the phases. Then you learn that. Now some people are not good at letting go stuff. Yeah. And it's like, wait a minute, you should hire somebody to do that. And they're like, oh wow. That's right. Okay. So you wanna see where you're earning more money, right. Then you can hire more people, but don't just try to get rid of everything all at once.'cause that doesn't work either. Right. But then there's a new non-negotiable. The non-negotiable is, okay, there's a certain task I used to do. Now I don't do that. My assistant does that. Right. Okay. And then that's when you, when you start to slowly delegate stuff, but not just throw things at people and go. Now, that's the other thing. Some people earn a bit of money. Usually it's 30 K months. When people earn 30 K months, they think they're the king of the world. That's great to earn 30 K months. That's not like you don't just stop doing everything at that point. Right. Okay. That's, I notice 23rd, there's, I'm so rich, I'm just gonna. Everything getting ready to do everything. So they just start handing stuff off without training people properly, because they're like, I'm not gonna do any, I'm gonna get a personal assistant, I'm gonna, but they're not training these people. Yeah. They're not integrated to do what they need to do. So then the business goes under. Yeah, and then they always say to me, yeah, I shouldn't have. I was like, yeah, you shouldn't taken your finger off that pulse. Yeah, exactly. You're gonna be in there. Your finger in the pie. You have to be in there watching your business. But people like to just. They think they're gonna hand their business off to a Filipino va. That VA can run your business. They would not be a Filipino VA making X amount per dollars. Per per hour. Great point. Great point. Totally, totally love what you're saying. Not fair either. Yeah, exactly. On either end, a hundred percent. It's not fair to throw, say to some person here, just run my business for me. This is not no that. You have to train them for each task and they do certain things and that's it. Right. So, so is that what you do is support people? I can see this being a really important piece because leadership and owning a business are so, so important, and to do it in a way that continues if you are interested in a growth. Of a business, there are key elements that you need to understand, and so having somebody like yourself, is that the type of thing that you help people with, is discovering those parts and I mean, that's like a, an add-on. Okay. The main thing we help with is getting clients with no ads. Okay. And if people come into my year, yes, it's everything. It's gotcha. Delegation when you, you know, how, how to hire somebody, how to, well, we actually train the VAs for our higher end client. Oh, okay. Sure. Your clients. We can, they can send, we just want it to be as easy as possible for our clients. So I actually created. One of my team members trains my clients' VAs for messaging.'cause that's the hardest thing. Oh, beautiful. Yep. Yeah. So we really want it to, like, I, I, I want my clients to make it easier for them than it was for me. I. Hmm. Because for me it was a lot of work. Yes, you have to do the work. And I'm always thinking, how can we shortcut this and make them not go through all that really, really hard?'cause most people can't do what I do, and I know that. Yeah. I, I know that. Yeah. So instead of saying, well, just do what I did. Well, let's do the path that I did, do the path that I did. You have to have resilience and grit, and you have to do some work. Of course, we're gonna help you make it a little bit easier than what I had to figure out for myself. So we'll show you how to hire person. We will actually help train the person. Mm-hmm. But, but there's, yes, there's lead there. There's all sorts of things. It's not just, here's the marketing, it's also, it's also about developing a mindset of, of not complaining about everything. Mm-hmm. When I hear myself complaining about stuff, I'm like, okay, stop. Yeah, that is not a good mindset. I used to be a big complainer and certainly it's part of my personality, but I'm like, stop. Okay. Yeah. Go back to the gain, go back to the gratitude of everything that's going well, because everything is going well. I mean, I'm so grateful for my business, but we get to this point, all people, all human beings do this. Yeah. That we start seeing, oh, that's a problem, but wait a minute. What? What about, what's going right? Yeah. So we try to teach our clients also like, let's look at the gain. What is going on that's fantastic here, and build on that. There's a lot of mindset. Also, I must say, being a good leader is not easy for anyone. Nope. Because we're human beings. Yep. That's just a fact. Yep. There's all this stuff about being a good leader. I love it.'cause I was a leadership coach. However, let's be real practicing that on a daily basis with all the annoyance we have in life and being tired and kids and husbands and relationships and health and everything. Yeah. You know, to then say, okay, I have a business and I gotta be a good leader. The people that are working with me and my clients, that's an extra job and it's important I. Yeah. Yeah. It's pivotal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that goes back to, again, making sure you look after yourself, for you, by you, because of you as the center point. Because when you forget about yourself and what's important for you, then the, the thread starts to unravel. Mm. So. Giving back time to yourself. One last question before we depart. What kind of impact do you want to create? You know, my purpose, I have a 40 year purpose. Yay. And I started last year, but I, I was already on it, but I actually had a coach, two co i two coaches. I actually have, like, I'm in a, with a mentor now about my, just about my purpose because once you make money. After the first million, you know, you have to, I always had purpose so I can make the second and third and blah, blah, blah. But after a while it's like, okay, you're out of the survival. Mm-hmm. And you get on the highers, you know, Maslow's hierarchy. Yeah. When you're thinking more about what is my purpose? Yeah. I have several purposes. There's my purpose for my kids, my spirituality, and other people. Yeah. So for the world, my 40 year purpose is to help as many people on this earth to thrive and prosper. Hmm. Especially with AI coming. Mm-hmm. Okay. So that's my purpose. So that purpose is also in my coaching. It's not just, Hey, pay me some money and we're gonna help you. It's like we really care about my clients. Mm-hmm. And others. Mm-hmm. Thriving that this is gonna work prospering, because what's the point? Otherwise, why? Why, right? Why would it be like, Hey, pay me money and Sure we're gonna make you help you make money. You know, that's, yeah. There's no heart in it. It won't work. Yeah. And by the way, human beings often don't do the work. Okay. So we are there also to train and you know, coach on the mindset of doing the work.'cause it is so easy to say, sure, I'll pay you money. And then people think it's gonna be a magic wand. Some work has to be done right? Absolutely. A hundred percent. A hundred percent, yeah. Do you find that that's a big, um, change that's happened over time in terms of the work ethic? No, I think that human beings are, generally, it's, they, they, you know, some, we have great clients. I have high achievers. High achievers generally do the work. Yeah, that is great. Yeah. Um, we've gotten more and more and more high achievers'cause I attract that. Okay. We have a lot of coaches aiding and abetting. We have different coaches aiding and abetting the work getting done. So it's not like, Hey, go do the work. I, I think that's obnoxious to go, just go, just do the work. Yeah. Yeah. But how do I do the work well here? Yeah. Exactly. Help you. Does that make sense? So Yeah, totally. I'm obnoxious to tell people, just go do the work. No training, but just go figure it out. Yeah. Which is what people to me, and I did figure it out, but. I'm not the average person. Right. So I did just share all figure it out. But why should they when they pay money, you know? Yes. You do need to do some work. We will help. Yeah. We have all sorts of coaches aiding and abetting, as I said. Yeah. And there's a point, I mean, most people in my program, we have a 90% success rate. That's enormous. Huge. Yeah. Huge. 10%. 10% of people refuse, even with all of our coaching, they don't wanna do the work. They want a magic. They just want it to, yeah. They want a client to just drop on their threshold with no work. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's just, no, I'm not saying 10% of my clients want that. Yeah. That's not it. But I, I'd say 10%. It's pretty good though. 90% is a very high, high. It's a great, yeah. Well, and quite frankly, I, I believe it's because. Your passion exists, your drive exists. You are unique, and as a result, all those pieces that you continue to put together, you're a learner. You always have somebody that's helping you because you know there is no finish line because life is about learning and everybody who comes into your circle will benefit. There's no doubt about that. I can feel that. Thank also my podcast. Thank you. The podcast is just a free thing. I just get guests and there's no nothing being sold there. Mm-hmm. It's not even about my business, it's about general, general stuff, because I really have a mission to educate people. Yeah. And also I earn a learn a lot. I learned, so I know on my own podcast. So it's all a win. But thank you for that because that's my mission, is that that, that when people come in, they're better off. Yeah. Having met me and my team,'cause it's not just me, my team is of course incredible. We have the best team ever. It's, it's a few good coaches that are specialists. Mm-hmm. In what they do. So yeah, I'm passionate about this and you know, we just do our best Now do we get a couple bad clients here and there? Well, yeah, I'll be honest and I'm just gonna say this'cause nobody admits to this on podcasts. Yeah, yeah. But you've had bad clients, right? Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Nobody wants to admit to that. Yeah. There are clients that come in. This is rare, that are not great clients. Yeah. And I just wanted to put that out there.'cause I think people feel this guilt that they attract certain clients sometimes and they feel like shame, ashamed and there's shame. There's no shame that you're not batting a hundred. Yeah, exactly. That's how. How else do you learn? How else do you learn? Well, I mean also, you know, some people come in and they look like they're going to do the work and then Yeah, for sure. Right. So I just wanted to put that out. There're all people, all businesses. Yep. Get clients that are not the best clients all the time. Absolutely. And I'd be lying if I said that every single client that came in was just amazing. We have had some bad clients in the years. Yep. It's happened. Yeah. And you do feel like, gee, how did that happen? And why? Why? Why did we attract this? Because it's just a numbers, yeah. Numbers thing. Yep. Yeah. No, totally. And thank you for bringing that up because I. This is what this show is about, and I'm sure your show too is all about what's real and we're not making things up here. This you're speaking from your heart. I'm speaking from my heart. We are having a conversation, and if you have been watching our show or. Following us. We are so grateful to have you. I want you to make sure you check the show notes because all the information on how to contact John is in the show notes. Make sure that you reach out. Do you have any final thoughts you would love to share with our audience today before we depart? Very quickly. You are worthy and ready right now. Now, NOW. Right now, you're worthy and ready. Stop doing billions of certifications and waiting to position yourself to be worthy and ready. You're worthy. You're ready right now. Take the step and put your foot in the door. Thank you for that. That gave me chills. Beautiful. Have a wonderful day everyone. Take care of yourselves and remember, thrive after 45. Take care. Bye.