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Episode 4 | We Love Food. We Hate Exercise. Let’s Talk About It.
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This one’s for everyone who hates the gym but loves a full English.
In this unfiltered episode of the UNTOLD Podcast, we open up about our complicated relationship with food, fitness, body image, and all the guilt that comes with it.
From binge eating and fad diets to dislocated shoulders and Monjaro injections—we dive deep into the highs and lows of trying (and often failing) to live a healthier life.
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🍔 Why food is such a source of joy (and shame)
💪 Why exercise feels like punishment
💉 Real experiences with weight loss injections like Monjaro
⚖️ The pressure to look a certain way
🧠 How food affects our mental health
😂 And why sometimes, you just need to laugh at yourself
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Why is food one of the biggest joys in our life, but exercise is hated by so many people?
Speaker 2:I can't stand the gym. I can't stand exercise. I have never been one that enjoys exercise. These endorphins that you're meant to get, where the fuck, where are they?
Speaker 3:According to the GP, I'm clinically obese and I shouldn't be alive.
Speaker 2:Everyone's on Monjaro at the moment. I can't think of anything worse.
Speaker 3:Everyone's on Manjaro at the moment. I can't think of anything worse, so I'm going to drop a. It's not a secret. I did go on the Manjaro, yeah. All it did was really suppress my appetite a little bit, yeah. And then I skipped a week and literally, I think within three or four weeks, all that weight's just come straight back.
Speaker 2:When they say food is good for the soul.
Speaker 1:I completely agree with that. It's good for everything other than your health, for it, isn't it if you as long as you, as long as you eat healthily, obviously?
Speaker 3:but you can eat healthy, but the problem with eating healthy is it's bloody expensive. The untold podcast is proudly sponsored by aura surfaces specialists in luxury surfaces for extraordinary spaces, like creating dream homes, building a dream life takes work. That's why we had to get behind this podcast. Real stories, real challenges and real success. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1:Welcome to today's episode of the Untold Podcast guys. Today's episode, we're going to be talking about the battle between loving food and hating exercise. I'm Chris, I'm Des and I'm Ash, and we're ready to go. Why is food one of the biggest joys in our life, but exercise is hated by so many people?
Speaker 2:This is going to be a long episode. I reckon I could do 20 minutes on my own on this one. I'm a foodie, right. I loved it. How far do we go back? This is hard to put into a handy little paragraph. My bowel ruptured, right. You weren't expecting that as an answer, were you?
Speaker 3:Well, here we go.
Speaker 2:In 2006. I was 26 years old and my bowel ruptured diverticulitis and no one knew what it was. They thought it was irritable bowel syndrome. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I thought it was irritable bowel syndrome. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was about 18 stone at the time and I had a colostomy bag for the best part of a year. During that time, I wasn't allowed to eat all of the processed crap that got me into that position in the first place, funnily enough. So I learned to cook. I taught myself how to cook and I've never looked back. I love it. It's one of my favorite things to do. Everyone's on Monjaro at the moment. I can't think of anything worse. I can't think gastric band. I can't think of anything worse. If anyone's done it. Fair play, fair play. You've got to manage your weight how you want to manage your weight. I enjoy food far too much and yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Well, I like food. That's really interesting knowing that you had all that done.
Speaker 2:That's quite a lot of stuff to go for, isn't it?
Speaker 1:I know they weren't expecting that as a start of the conversation. Were you? What about you, ash? I love food.
Speaker 3:I absolutely love food and I've been brought up watching my mum cook and stuff and cooking and that was my way I used to win. I'm going to cook for you. Bosh, bosh, bosh Every time my two relationships. I love cooking. I enjoy like mixing flavors. I love good food, like my. Luckily enough, my business takes me to places Spain and Italy mainly where obviously Italy the food is phenomenal and I get taken on these trips into these restaurants and it's like oh, do you want to try this? Have you ever tried this? Have you ever tried raw beef and truffle and stuff?
Speaker 1:like that. No, but I'm just about to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I don't know. I just enjoy it. I enjoy the flavours, I enjoy cooking it and I enjoy experimenting with it.
Speaker 2:When they say food is good for the soul, I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1:It's good for everything other than your health, really, isn't it? As long as you eat healthily, obviously you can eat healthy.
Speaker 3:but the problem with eating healthy is it's bloody expensive, it's hard.
Speaker 2:It's hard work. It's so hard. I'll tell you what we did do. I took one of those food intolerance tests, you know where you pluck some hair out and you send it off and then they run it through and they tell you what you're intolerant to. Well, I should imagine my results were fairly similar First thing you looked at. Am I intolerant to beer? No, I'm fine with beer, but wheat, dairy sugar, and I went down a bit of a rabbit hole, especially with sugar and the addiction that we all have to sugar, which is similar to an addiction that you might have to a class A right. I came off of that within two weeks. I had the worst stomach cramps you could imagine for about three, four days, but then after that I felt unbelievable and healthy eating tasted the best food ever.
Speaker 1:So you actually got stomach cramps from stopping eating sugar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow, it was horrific. I lost about three stone. Then I went to Cornwall. And then how do you go to Cornwall without having pasties and ice creams? You don't, do you? And we kind of just didn't go back on it because I thought I'm not going through those cramps a second time. But we were having smoked mackerel on salad with air fried potatoes and it would be the tastiest thing you've ever eaten in your life. I have it today. It's so strange how taking sugar away can really just make everything better, really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1:Fascinating right. I've actually just sat there kind of proper listening. There. I eat loads of sugar.
Speaker 2:I've got such a sweet kind of proper listening there I eat loads of sugar.
Speaker 1:I've got such a sweet tooth, really bad teeth. I'm not going to lie, I'd love to go to Turkey and get my teeth done, but if I could take the abuse from my mates. But for me, my relationship with exercise is just non-existent at the moment. It's again that time constraint. You know it takes 10 minutes to eat a burger or an hour to go up the gym. What am I going to do? That's the easiest. I'm going to eat a burger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's not an hour. You have to get ready and then you have to shower afterwards.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, if I not going to the gym now because I'm not showering twice, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean she's just taking a piss. I mean they're like well, what did you get from the vending machine today? If you went to the gym, there's vending machines in other places. You don't have to go to the gym to go to the vending machine, you fat bastard. Hey, I went to the gym. I did 15 minutes. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm taking a piss out of the guy that works for me at the moment. He's only young I think he's 24, but he's just moved into his own flat, just bought his own flat with his missus. He's going up to the gym. He joined the gym two weeks ago, I think it was. He goes up there every night. So you're going up there because you can't afford a shower now, because you've got your own place you've got your own bills.
Speaker 3:It's difficult. I've always been like I think we spoke yesterday about it. I've always I like sports. No, you were in the car park for the gym Then the phone rang, yeah Um like I don't mind it. Once I'm there, it's getting myself there and I'll do it for four or five weeks. I can't do this anymore and I break that routine and I just don't. I don't like being sweaty and horrible and minging, but we've got to do it.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what. I've got a PT and a nutritionist. Shout out to Luke Luke Hedger, hedger Gym, great guy. What I like most about Luke is that he's a chef. He's worked as a sous chef in like Michelin-style restaurants, so he's not just a geezer that works at the Toby Carvery. Do you know what I mean? Microwave thing? Yeah, exactly. So when he put a meal plan in place, he knows that I can cook and he left it vague enough to say this is how much protein, this is how much days. If I say to him I've had two pints of Guinness, which we're going to have today, it will adapt the rest of my daily routine through ChatGPT. He's also given me a workout plan because I can't stand the gym.
Speaker 2:I can't stand exercise. I have never been one that enjoys exercise. These endorphins that you're meant to get, where are they? They've been hiding somewhere in my body. I don't get them. I never, ever, get that buzz like yeah, just did a workout. I endure it and, if anything, I'm more proud of the fact that I hate exercise and I still do it.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I've only ever done for team sports thing is you mentioned routine a second ago, like how is it? Is it the routine that people don't like going up the gym, or is it like the discomfort of actually going to the gym and hurting afterwards and just the feeling that it does get? I mean, when I used to go to the gym I used to love it. I used to love the endorphins. It did make me feel bloody amazing afterwards for hours, like two or three hours If I go to the gym first thing in the morning. I used to feel fucking brilliant afterwards. But it was just the discipline of going up there every day. And once you break the routine you're done.
Speaker 2:I think that's it, because isn't the whole purpose of the gym to become uncomfortable? Yeah, that's your mission isn't it. You want to go there and be as horrible and uncomfortable as you can for the best part of an hour before you have a shower. So it takes a mindset to get into that, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I think I did a couple of months with a local gym. That was like one-to-one sessions. It was small group sessions, so four people, so it's basically one-to-one and I was booking a session five o'clock every morning. I'd do it four or five times a week. Every week I'd miss a day. In the week I'd do it a Saturday morning. You must have been in a 4 am club then.
Speaker 1:then I loved it.
Speaker 3:I, absolutely I a week I'd do the saturday morning. You must have been in a 4 am club then. Then I loved it. I absolutely. I got in a routine of doing it. I didn't love it when I was there, but it's an hour of your day, it's an hour of the day. I've made the hour because I'm going at six before I get into work for quarter past seven. Um, and I loved it. I loved it. But then it was like it's like 300 pound a month, yeah, and it's like the do you know what I mean? But it was the accountability that I was paying the money for it and I was in the best shape I've ever been and I felt better and I look better. And I used to stand in front of the mirror and be like look at this, look darling, look, look, I'm getting a six-pack.
Speaker 1:And then I went and um, this is okay, I'm just talking to yourself as well. No, yeah, that was me. Yeah, she wasn't there.
Speaker 3:That was talking to me and I sort of did it and I was on and off with it. I was on and off with it and, like, I dislocated my shoulder just over a year ago and it was the most debilitating thing I've ever done. It was horrible. I just couldn't do nothing with this arm, like for months and months and months, no matter how hard I tried. And I've always had a problem. And every time I go lifting weights, this shoulder has been shite compared to this one. And it turns out after dislocating my shoulder. They said, oh, have you ever had a shoulder injury? I said, well, I fell off a skateboard when I was 16. Oh, you broke your shoulder. The bones all still floating around and I've never done anything with it.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you that saying of just get up and try again. That didn't work that day. Yeah, you should have gone to the hospital, run it off.
Speaker 3:But I loved playing squash. Like you said about team sports, I absolutely love. I don't mind exercise when it's not running on a treadmill on your own or on a rowing machine or lifting weights. That's it. I like going out on a motorbike. I like going out on a pushbike, I like going out on a motorbike as well but you can't class that as exercise.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 3:I like going out on a pushbike when the sun's shining. I like playing golf. It gets a few steps in and stuff. I like being out and about and doing things. Yeah, going to the gym. I've never. I can't get on with it for long enough period of time for it to stick as part of my daily routine this is the longest I've stuck at it.
Speaker 2:I've lost about eight kilo now since the start of the year. I've still got a good eight to lose. It's just the most consistent I've got. But it's the first time I've had a PT where I'm really checking in and really taking it seriously as well.
Speaker 3:I was going to say is that because you've got the accountability, because if you weren't paying Luke to do it, If it wasn't for Luke, I wouldn't have that accountability.
Speaker 2:And the fact is I've never kept at it long enough. My weight is always yo-yoed. But when I was working the day job at any one time in the houses that I've lived in, I've been about a 35 to 40 minute bike ride. So I used to ride my bike in, ride my bike back. That's a good hour and a half. That's a good lot of exercise that I could do daily. That would take care of the exercise. But now I'm working at home all the time, working for myself, with fewer hours. It's a struggle to fit it in unless I make a real conscious effort. But I think it comes back to what you said. It's. It's the routine, whether that's a weight loss thing, an exercise thing, a money-making thing. If you, if you stop because you're poorly for whatever reason, or you're low mood and you don't fancy it, that's fine. You need to have that fucking voice in your head that tells you after a couple of days, get back up, get back in there.
Speaker 1:It's that horrible bloody word again that we always talk about in it consistency everything in life you need to be consistent with, don't you?
Speaker 1:everything problem with me in the gym is I'm one of these people that I have to go. I've said it in a previous podcast. I have to go all in. If I'm going to do something like properly, I need to go all in. So the last last time I went to the gym, I went for about six months, every single day. I stopped drinking completely. I went to the gym every day, became a boring bastard, didn't want to do anything else other than eat, sleep and breathe the gym.
Speaker 3:I was eating chicken.
Speaker 1:I was eating broccoli. I was eating cauliflower for toilet five times a day.
Speaker 3:No, it's a difference, massive difference.
Speaker 1:I was looking ripped. It felt amazing. But I went to the pub one night after work with my mate to have a Coke and I ended up on about 10 pints of Stella and I never went back to the gym again, literally never went back. Put about four stone on it in two years.
Speaker 3:I think we put a lot of pressure, though there's a lot of pressure on that, especially in the. In the modern day world, if you don't go to the gym, then you're a useless human being. Yeah, and there's a lot of. There's a lot of things, but there's so many other ways to lose weight and be healthy by eating better, drinking lots of water. Don't drink enough water. Now, how easy is it to drink more water?
Speaker 1:Somebody needs to be very clever and make water taste like beer, because I would be the most hydrated person on the planet.
Speaker 2:Again, it was Luke that said to me you must take a water bottle everywhere, Because if you don't take a water bottle everywhere, you won't drink your water.
Speaker 1:And it's so true. I was going to ask you just before you told us about your shoulder injury. You've obviously gone to the gym loads. You've obviously made some pretty stupid excuses to not work out in the past. Oh yeah, Must have done.
Speaker 3:I can't be arsed. Oh no, I can't go to the gym tomorrow because I think my tyre's flat on my car and I'm not going to be able to get there. Do you know what I mean? I used to make up when I used to go to the public gym, if you like, before I went to the private gym, darling. When I went to the public gym, me and my mate used to go together and we used to sort of hold each other accountable for it and I'd have to ask him what the excuses were. But he used to get so fucked off with me like, mate, come on, I need you to spot me, I need you there, I can't do it without you there. And I was like, yeah, I've, uh, broke my toenail. Um, oh, yeah, my dog's not well, uh, all this. But if we do, I think we make excuses because it's not fun. Yeah, there are some people that absolutely love the gym.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they love it, they love it, they love it, it, they love it, they love it Good for them.
Speaker 1:Problem is, though, they make everybody else feel so inferior. You roll up to the gym with your belly hanging out and the T-shirt that doesn't quite fit you properly, because you bought a smaller size, because you're going to lose loads of weight at the gym and you want to get your monies out of it. And then they're there, all prim, prim and proper, on the treadmill doing 16 mile an hour. Hello, like you're, you're out of breath.
Speaker 2:You've just walked up the stairs, you know like you go to the, you go to the bench and you're picking up 15s and they're picking up the 35s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just off the floor to put them back on the shelf to get the 60s. Yeah, I just the thing is with me. I'm one of these people. When I go to the gym I do feel a bit inferior. I do look at other people as if they're watching me, because I'm crap.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I think they don't really it's like anything after that. It's uncomfortable, isn't it? Yeah, it is uncomfortable, and it's having the confidence to we're all right, we can all go to the gym. I'm sure that no one's watching you being like, look at that, not trying to lift them weights.
Speaker 2:He can't lift them. I come out of the gym looking like a packet of potatoes. Every time I look like a sack of shit. Yesterday I forced myself to wear a grey T-shirt Real face your fears. So your face was even more red by the colour of the T-shirt. You sweat on a grey T-shirt. It shows you know what I mean. Like, if I'm going to look shit, I'm going to look proper shit.
Speaker 3:Then we got the photo of it, didn't we? Yeah, I took a picture of it and said I fucking hate the gym, but, yeah, the excuses that we tell ourselves.
Speaker 1:And then I was also in the gym when Boris locked down the country. Literally get out, gym's closed and, as she said yesterday, get out of the gym. Yeah, get out of the gym. Bad things happen when I go to the gym, so that was the story since 2001 that I told myself I'll go to the gym.
Speaker 2:Bad things happen.
Speaker 1:We've spoken about the gym a lot. Let's start talking about food. Oh yeah, that's better Food. We all love food. One of my favourite pastimes is eating what's your favourite. What is your favourite thing to eat? Is it healthy or is it unhealthy?
Speaker 2:It's unhealthy. It's usually something wrapped in pastry, and that could be a sausage roll. It could be a venison wellington, it doesn't matter. Everything's better when it's wrapped in pastry salmon on crew oh yeah posh I.
Speaker 3:I just love red meat steak steak. I do these potatoes where you sort of slice them, you soak them for a day in salt and garlic and oil and stuff.
Speaker 1:Right, we've just decided whose else we're going to.
Speaker 3:Then you have the cote de boeuf on the barbecue, big fuck-off bit of steak like this with a bit of salad, a bit of potatoes and stuff. That for me, is like heaven Nice bit of steak, really nice T-bones. And that's what I do in the summer, though, and I invite people around and like lads right, we're having a poker night. I'll host it. I'll go to the butchers, spend a couple of hundred quid on steaks. We'll come around, we'll play a bit of poker and we'll eat food and we'll drink nice drink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 2:Do that on a tuesday can we do that instead of the golf?
Speaker 3:you do that whenever you want. I just I don't. I love food. I love food, I love cooking. Um, well then, like I said earlier, I love experimenting with flavors. I can't bake for shit, because baking's like more of a, it's a scientific. You've got to have this much of this and this much of this specific yeah whereas, right, how much garlic do we want today? That'll do. Let's see what that's like. And every time, you can cook the same meal a hundred times and it will never be exactly the same yeah, never taste exactly the same what about you?
Speaker 1:well, I'm not really that experimental, to be honest. I do like mixing my flavors up though, so sometimes I'll have cheese and chives Pringles or I'll have barbecue flavour, but that is kind of my comfort food. That is what I'll sit on the sofa and eat. No, I love a steak. I do love a steak. I like a nice T-bone steak or something like that. But I like junk food. That's my favourite food, mate. I've got no problem with junk food.
Speaker 1:It's quick If I'm at work, I can drive to McDonald's, I can drive to Burger King, I can go wherever I want and get a burger or curry If I'm going dirty and horrible, mate, I'll go dirty and horrible.
Speaker 2:I'll have a Rustler's, not even the branded one. I'll have a Tesco home brand.
Speaker 1:Rustler's. Yeah, I don't stoop that low, to be fair. Oh, I love it honestly.
Speaker 3:I'd rather have a bit of lettuce. They're healthy. It's before the microwave or afterwards no after. You definitely do it after I did a post about that on facebook. Once you know, you get these groups on facebook and they're all like at each other. Someone said something once and I'll put a photo on there of my russell burger a bit of lettuce in it. I was like this is now healthy because it's got and everybody's. Oh, they're ripping me like I'm being serious oh, I love it.
Speaker 3:Oh, I bought a Rostle Burger. I'll put a slice of lettuce in it. It's now healthy. Party your five a day Like crack on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I'm going cheap and nasty, there's no limits.
Speaker 1:But how good. I mean, it does feel really good when you eat healthy food for a couple of days. It does make you feel better about things, doesn't it? When you just go, I'll have three or four days where I feel a bit rubbish and I'll go to McDonald's and I'll eat a burger, and then I'll go there in the afternoon and I'll get another burger or something. Or I'll go in the morning and get breakfast Hang over mate.
Speaker 3:There's nothing better.
Speaker 1:And then I'll go and get a burger in the afternoon, and then the following day I I'll be all lethargic and I can't be asked to do anything. There's no motivation. And then you think to yourself actually, food's quite responsible for your mental health and looking after yourself as well. And then, when you start to think about it eat a little bit more healthy it starts making you feel a bit different, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:It really does. Like I say, when I came off that sugar, it was everything. Healthy eating was everything. There was a guy that that I know he passed away, bless his heart. He used to say to me I would have a couple of beers on a Wednesday and my default would be start again on Monday. I might as well enjoy Thursday, friday.
Speaker 1:Saturday, Sunday. You don't ever start anything on a day other than a Monday.
Speaker 2:Exactly right. He said to me he went if you blew a tyre on your car, do you go and put a chiv on the other three tyres? I mean, of course you don't. I mean of course you don't. That's just one tyre on a four wheel car. What are you doing that for? And you think shit. I hated it.
Speaker 3:When he was right, I'll tell you what I do love a burger like a proper nice burger. I don't think you can go wrong with a burger, burger and chips.
Speaker 2:I completely agree.
Speaker 3:I don't think you can go wrong with burger and chips nice crispy onion rings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brioche barn and stuff, juice dribbling out the side a lot the nice little.
Speaker 2:You got a tomato relish and the american mustard, that that little combo.
Speaker 3:They go well yeah, just just burgers, burgers. You can do so much with a burger.
Speaker 2:You can do so much with a burger that's a generational thing, though, right, we're all of a similar generation. We grew up with the birth and the rise of mcdonald's and burger king and all that. It's our generation that have now built banging burger restaurants, because our parents, they didn't give a monkeys about burgers, did they?
Speaker 1:in those days, people making a living out of going and visiting them, burger restaurants, I mean they're doing reviews on them. That's how many burger places there are now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah because our generation grew up knowing how freaking good a burger was, and now you've got some of the best foods out there.
Speaker 3:I think, like you used to go to these festivals and stuff, didn't you? And you'd go to these open days and spring festivals and that, and you'd go around and you'd just With just the cheap burgers frozen from the thing. Now you go there, it's all gourmet food truck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're not burger bars anymore, they're street food.
Speaker 1:It's street food gourmet burgers from a cabin. That's it.
Speaker 2:But, it's good I've got a mullet. I'm not buying from it.
Speaker 3:And it's not reheated Do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's not reheated.
Speaker 3:There's one I love down in Brighton. Every time I go down to Brighton, outside the mall you've got that little shack that does the hot dogs and the bratwurst and stuff Every single time I go in there, mate, I'm from Brighton, that has been there all my life.
Speaker 1:I was there 15 years ago.
Speaker 2:That was there Definitely, and when I talk about going cheap and dirty, that's one of them. I'm sure there's pig's eyeballs in that and the way we're all talking about food.
Speaker 1:You can understand why food addiction is a thing for certain people, can't you? Yeah I mean what? What's your, what's your views on that?
Speaker 2:all right, I'm gonna get controversial here, and this is what I quite like about this podcast, because in all of my other social media stuff I'm quite vanilla in the way that I am. Yeah, if you're so fat that you can't tie your shoelaces, stop eating all right, mate calm down sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2:You don't get fat. Suddenly you don't, and I'm saying this as a fat man. There's a point where you go. You know what? I don't like this anymore For people and I understand that people have got significant mental health issues that might go that far, significant sort of insecurity issues, but not everybody.
Speaker 1:But if you can't tie your shoelaces, and you have to put responsibility on people around these people as well. Oh mate, 100%, we've got a thing at work. Yeah, if one of us stink, we go. You fucking stink, mate. Sort yourself out. You do, you know because you have that respect for each other. There's got to be somebody, hopefully, in those people's lives that go mate just instead of eating those. Why don't you just have one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my boy is nine years old. Look after your heart.
Speaker 1:Look after your health a bit more, you know.
Speaker 2:Exactly kids.
Speaker 1:Think about your children, you know, um, it's a tough, it is a difficult subject this. That's kind of why I brought that bit up.
Speaker 2:But you've got to have pride in your appearance, right? Yeah, my boy is nine years old. We now make him put his jumper on after he's brushed his teeth. And if he brushes his teeth and there's stuff down there, I'd say to him mate, you don't want to be the kid in school with the dirty jumper, you don't want to be that kid. You don't want to be the kid in school that's got smelly armpits, because that's a bullying thing, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, Unfortunately there are some horrible people out there who will pick on the most random, mind you, minuscule things.
Speaker 3:And you don't want your kids being that. Certainly you don't want your kids being that. If you've got mates like that?
Speaker 1:why would you not tell them? I don't understand it.
Speaker 3:You've got to look out for each other. Do you know what I mean, mate? Come on, you're not healthy, you're not. You've got to put down the rustler burger and just just rein it in a little bit do you know what I mean? And if you're listening to this from rustlers we're looking for sponsors.
Speaker 2:I enjoy a rustlers? Yeah, from time to time. But yeah, if you can't tie your shoelaces, the answer isn't Velcro. You know what I mean? The answer is yeah, oh dear.
Speaker 3:It's those inventions, isn't it? I can't get my sock on, but I've got this new thing where, if I, I can just I know I can lasso a sock around my toe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't just don't change them.
Speaker 1:The next subject was going to be have you ever had an issue with food?
Speaker 2:but obviously I'll take you as a no, des, because you've made your point quite a no, because there's a voice on my head that says you're really fat, mate, sort your life out.
Speaker 3:Yeah so I'm going to drop a. It's not a secret, I did go on the Mondiano.
Speaker 2:Oh did you? Yeah, Mate, we know lots of people that do Fair play to them. I've got one of my best mates who's got a gastric band.
Speaker 3:I saw it and I thought, okay, well, if I can have a bit of help. I'm not. Do you know what I mean? According to the GP, I'm clinically obese and I shouldn't be alive Me too. But I thought let's give it a go. Some of I found it and I did it.
Speaker 3:And you go from the two and a half to the fives and that, and at first I was all really scared. I don't want to do it. I don't want to jive myself now. It's all it really did for me. I lost 10 kilograms in 12 weeks. I guess that's good, um, but all it did was really suppress my appetite a little bit. Yeah, I wouldn't eat during the day, um, and then I was reading into it and they're like yeah, but what you're doing is you're losing, like bone mass and you're losing lots of other things. And I've got these clever scales that do the thing, and it was. It was losing bone mass, I was losing fluid retention, I was losing other things. Now I'm not.
Speaker 3:I didn't look too deep into it, um, and then christmas hit and I was like I'm not doing this over christmas. I've got the full family around. We've got all the trimmings. Talk about food. I'll send you a photo of my christmas spread. It was literally mental and I did this. I did this thing.
Speaker 3:I objected myself. I went from the two and a half to the five to the seven and a half and then I started reading stuff and I did the 10 and then I skipped a week and did a week and that and literally, I think within three or four weeks of doing it all that weight's just come straight back. Oh, really, literally, people said it. They said as soon as you stop doing it. So it's almost like it's a thing for life. Now I did change the way I eat. Um, we used to have a sandwich van come around here and I'd be doing seven, eight quid a day on bacon, rolls and burgers and stuff. Just because, just because I like eating, um, and yeah, I think that a lot of the people that say as soon as you come off it, you will, you will put the weight straight back on I'm all right.
Speaker 2:I think so. It suppresses your appetite and it makes you fuller quicker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't yeah it definitely makes you fuller quicker. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it definitely makes you fuller quicker, so you wouldn't eat the same size portions. I could go all day without eating anything, but I'd still get home and I'd be absolutely fucking starving, Like I would be like right in straight in the door, fucking running in raid in the fridge pulling everything out, eating stuff while I'm cooking dinner because I was so hungry. And then I've made my dinner and I can't eat it because I've picked on little things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So it was the idea was. The idea was was to do it, help me lose a little bit and then smash on with the gym. But I never smashed on with the gym, I just did it and then.
Speaker 3:Well, you're seeing results and I watch a lot of people on TikTok and I messaged this guy. This guy went from being a big lad to after like 16 weeks or so. Did you do? He said no, I changed nothing else about my life. Yeah, for me that wasn't. The idea was was to give me a bit of a boost mentally. Oh, you're losing weight, but you're also going to, and I did, I didn't.
Speaker 3:It goes back to one of the other episodes we filmed about the weather. This was in the winter months. I joined Pure Gym. I was going for a couple of weeks. I was getting up three, four mornings a week at half past five, being in the gym for six, in work for quarter past seven. Now in the summer I can do that because it's sunshining. Yeah, sun shining. Yeah, getting out of bed to go to the gym in the morning. The thing is, when you go to the gym you come out and fucking starving. I want a steak. Yeah, when I used to do the mornings at like six in the morning, do that four be like, oh god, I could murder a fucking steak.
Speaker 2:now, like you get out the gym in the morning just so hungry, but I guess you're burning the yeah, you're burning it, but this is the other thing about food that fascinates me and what I love about food. So when you were on Monjaro and you didn't have the appetite and you weren't eating the big portions, how did that affect your relationship with your wife, when you were going out for dinner, for example?
Speaker 3:I still love food.
Speaker 1:I still love food Still ordered it, just couldn't eat it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I still ordered it. No, I'd still eat it. It's just I don't know. It was weird. It's really weird. Some people have said I literally I couldn't eat, that I couldn't eat. I think there were certain times, because obviously you do the injection once a week. I think there were some times. I think, after you do the injection, the next day is like when it's at its highest right, and then it's sort of and I used to do the injections on a monday so then you're working at the weekends. It's probably sort of like slightly worn off. It's not. It worked, don't get me wrong, but I don't know whether it was all the other things the lowering your water retention, your bone mass and things like that. I don't know whether it was a mixture of everything. Obviously, yeah, the portion size is smaller, but I eat big portions, like you should see the size of the bloody sum of the portions I eat. Yeah, it's really, really difficult.
Speaker 2:It's interesting. So people that I know that have spoken about their other arms being on Monjaro, exactly like one. Guy took his partner away for her birthday weekend to a spa and on the last night they were going to have a big sort of slap up meal at this place, but she had some scallops at lunch so she didn't fancy dinner and he was like cheap night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd like to get some of my Mrs on Manjaro Not that she needs it, not that she needs it. I thought I'd throw that in there, he said.
Speaker 2:he said he's sitting there eating this three-course dinner that he's already paid for on his own, while she's sitting there watching him.
Speaker 1:Have you ever tried anything like Manjaro or anything like that?
Speaker 2:No, no, I've tried lots of fad diets. Yeah, what worked best for me was the fasting one, because I knew that I could go a day not eating anything but I could eat tomorrow, and that did really well for me but, I've never had anything like that I like the seafood diet Seafood, fucking eat it.
Speaker 1:Love that.
Speaker 1:Thing is with diets and training regimes and everything your body. I mean, I'm not a scientist or anything, but obviously I know a bit about supplements and that the way your body works, if you're starving it of fats and stuff that it's been used to as soon as you stop working out, as soon as you stop diet used to as soon as you stop working out, as soon as you stop dieting, as soon as you stop eating healthy, your body just stores all of the shit that you're putting in it again. That's why you, that's why you put that weight on instantly, because your body knows it's coming and when it comes it's going to grab hold of it with both hands and store it and store the life out of it, because all you're going to do is you're going to starve it of it again.
Speaker 1:It's going to end up burning itself off again. So unless you're dedicated to the gym and you go every three times a week or whatever, you can eat what you want, I think.
Speaker 3:Eat what you want. Keep your exercise levels good.
Speaker 1:But that's why I don't exercise. I'm on my feet all day at work. I feel like I get my steps in. If I didn't work on a building site, I'd probably be about 19 stone, I would reckon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I stopped playing, I was used to playing football four times a week and then I got an office job and it just fucking that's it like with me now.
Speaker 3:I push pens around the desk for a living. That's not much exercise, doing this all day and that and then enter and that and then picking up the phone. So that's where I really like and obviously I've got all the fields around here and then I want to try and do the steps because that makes them. If you could just do 10,000 steps a day, five days a week, that makes a massive difference. Just mobility, just getting the blood flow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but what I don't tell you is that 10,000 steps is a lot of steps.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pressure, isn't it? It's pressure again on people, isn't it it is?
Speaker 2:And again it comes around to this ideal of we should always be happy, we should always be healthy, we should always be this, and everyone's just striving for this. And then, the day you don't feel happy or the day you don't feel healthy, you instantly think, well, is there something wrong with me? No, there, fucking isn't. I had a shocking week last week and I check in with my PT every Saturday and I said to him I went nine times out of 10, I would lie to you today and just say, yeah, this happened, this happened, this happened, and I'd lie to you about my weight.
Speaker 3:I've done 14 marathons this week, mate, did you not hear?
Speaker 2:But I said to him I went, but straight up, honest, I didn't fancy it. I had a lot going on. I knew I was making bad choices, I didn't care. I knew I should have gone to the gym. I didn't go. That's the end of that. But I still want to be motivated to do better next week. And he's come back and gone that's life, yeah, that's what you're meant to do. Anyone that says to you or you should be doing this consistently every week, that's just unrealistic. Yeah, and I've. That meant more to me than a kick up the ass. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:and I think, to be fair, that's probably a good way to finish this podcast, to be quite honest. So, uh, thanks for listening, thanks for watching. Uh, make sure you like, scribe and share this. Oh, fuck off.
Speaker 2:Keep that in.
Speaker 1:Uh well, I'd say that's a pretty good place to stop the podcast today, then, boys. Um, thanks for watching today, guys, and listening. If you want to subscribe, please do.