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If It Feels Uncomfortable, You Should Probably Do It

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Ever walked into a room (or started something new) and thought: why am I even here?
That’s imposter syndrome… and weirdly, it’s usually a sign you’re doing the right thing.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Why imposter syndrome hits hardest when things start getting real
  • How being uncomfortable is often the “proof” you’re growing
  • A simple way to strip your head noise back when you feel overwhelmed
  • Why confidence doesn’t come first — showing up does

If you’re a tired mum or dad trying your best, feeling like you’re grafting but not moving forward… this one’s for you.

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SPEAKER_02:

Welcome back to another episode of the Untold Podcast. I'm still Ash. I'm not Chris anymore. No. I'm Christina. Christina. Christina. Got a uh Yeah, we won't go into that, Chris. That's not a very good way to start. But anyway. Sorry, yeah. Good morning, Chris.

SPEAKER_00:

Good morning, mate.

SPEAKER_02:

How you doing?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm alright. You alright? Yeah, I'm alright, mate. Yeah. Kind of feels each other, isn't it? We're so keen to ask each other, isn't it? Well, we've not really spoke, have we? No, we haven't actually. I did say that to my missus last night. Ash don't love me anymore. And he didn't reply to any of my messages today either.

SPEAKER_02:

I did. I was busy, mate. I was busy. Um which is like so you come in this morning and you spoke about saying how you feel like you've got imposter syndrome. Yeah. So I thought, because I've had that before, I bet there's a hell of a lot of people that have got that. So I thought we'd talk about that. Oh, we're going rogue.

SPEAKER_00:

We were going to talk about it. We're going rogue.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. We're going rogue. We're going to do something else. So this episode, this episode is basically dig right into cribs. No, but let's find out why you've got imposter syndrome, shall we? Let's find out if we can help me.

SPEAKER_00:

Because it's a I feel I don't know, I just feel really awkward today. You're always awkward, mate. Well, yeah, I'm I'm I'm not really though, am I? I d I don't know, I just I feel like I've gone right in my shell. I don't know, I don't I don't know why, because I'm not I'm I'm not a person that goes in this shell that that often, but I was even late night last night, I was scrolling on TikTok and I typed in imposter syndrome, and it's a positive thing, but it feels so negative. Feels so negative.

SPEAKER_02:

I think my experience with imposter syndrome is that you're pushing yourself out of your comfortable boundaries. That's what it is. And I think it's you could wrap this whole episode up in three and a half minutes. Yeah. But I think it's I think that's it. Having imposter syndrome is a good thing. If you live through life and you're comfortable every single day and you never feel it, you're not pushing yourself.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like when you went to the gym, it's imposter syndrome in the gym. It's not, it's a lack of confidence in yourself and your ability.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's what I think, anyway.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's how you're feeling. Yeah. You said to me, I just don't feel like I don't know who I am anymore. I don't know who I am.

SPEAKER_00:

I do I do I do. Like I've obviously been striving for better things, and now better things are coming. It's like, oh my god, like but if you know, I say I scrolled, scrolled like late last late night last night on TikTok, and Mel Robbins, I don't know whether anybody, whether you follow her or not, she does like all the jobs.

SPEAKER_02:

She's got a really good podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

Really good podcast. Yeah, really good with loads of listeners. Um she basically said that if you don't get imposter syndrome, there's something wrong with you because you know you're you're entering a room where you've never been before, and you're in there for a reason, you're in there because you deserve to be in there, but you don't feel like you're in there because you deserve to be there. You're you've I don't know, it's it's it's really weird. Um yeah, I it's it's a strange feeling because I've not had it and I've had it a few times in the last couple of years. I had it when we started doing a podcast because it was why am I doing a podcast? Like I don't do podcasts, you know, and then now I'm obviously I've got things going on uh that that are changing every day, and all of a sudden it's I made my first post on TikTok last night to explain what it was that I was doing, and the day all day before I posted it, I was absolutely shitting myself because I'm thinking, you know, what why are people gonna come and listen to me? Why are people gonna come and join me? Actually, if I think really strong and hard about it, everyone that I speak to says, because you deserve to be listened to, because you know what you're talking about, but it's that thought in your own head, isn't it? Like, yeah, I I guess it's really difficult to understand sometimes how from being somebody that just was a decorator on a building site to now helping people and giving people advice, yeah. Not the one that's getting advice from somebody, I'm the person that's actually giving the advice, you know? It's it's just a weird feeling.

SPEAKER_02:

I think imposter syndrome is good because it keeps you on your toes. Yeah, you won't get complacent in what you're doing, and now this episode's gonna go out in a week. What you're doing, everyone will know in a week, won't you?

SPEAKER_00:

Everyone knows now.

SPEAKER_02:

I've posted the videos on the videos on TikTok, yeah. Let's break it down. What are you doing, Chris?

SPEAKER_00:

So I've uh I've been really, really lucky. I suppose I would say lucky, but it's obviously there's no luck involved, really, to be fair. I've got to get out of this luck thing. Um what luck is? No.

SPEAKER_02:

Where preparation and opportunity meet fair. Preparing for it. That's what luck is. It's like you can't, you ain't ever gonna win the lottery if you don't go and buy the ticket.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I suppose, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You ain't do you know what I mean? You're never gonna climb Everest if you don't do the training. Yeah. And then one day someone says, Oh, do you want to climb Everest?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

No, that's a fucking real shit thing. But preparation meets opportunity, that's luck.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, you've got to be proper prepared for that, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02:

I'm doing it, mate.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's like Joe. Obviously, we had Joe on, didn't she, didn't we? And she said, Oh, you know, you should do something, you'd be brilliant at it. And and always I've had people say, Oh, you should do something. You like helping people, you should be doing this. Why don't you do this? Why don't you do that? And we were supposed to do something. Me and Jenna, who's my business partner and a very good friend of mine, were supposed to do something with somebody else, and somebody else put a roadblock in the way, said, No, hang on, you can't do this, we're not having that, and it got a bit bit ugly. So, me being me and not really taking no for an answer from anybody, thought, well, if you're not gonna do it with me, I'll I'll try and do it on my own. So I went online and went on to TikTok and spoke to TikTok and filled out lots of application forms and done some exam thing that are passed, and Jenna's done it, and we passed, and we've been given the acceptance to be an actual official TikTok partner, not just an agency where we get affiliate links and we pass them out to the uh affiliates, we're actually going to be classed as a proper partner of TikTok, which is massive. Yeah um, you know, it's uh there's a lot of agencies out there, but there's actually not a lot of agencies that have got the full acceptance from TikTok, so it's big, and that's kind of why I think I'm I've got the imposter syndrome at the moment, because I'm just thinking, fucking hell, why have they why have they said, Yeah, do you know what? That Chris, that Chris geezer off TikTok, and that Jenna, actually, they're pretty good. We'll we'll we'll give them full access. Obviously, like they've done it for a reason, but it doesn't stop you from thinking, oh, this is a new chapter that is gonna be a lot of hard work, but also it should be uh massive because we're going into this with the mindset of not being greedy bastards. You know, I'm I earn enough money on TikTok to pay my bills and to go on holiday. I don't need to earn lots and lots of money. So the fact that we're going into it to help people rather than to line our pockets is why we believe that it's gonna work so well. Yeah, we're gonna make money along the way, let's not beat you around the bush. You don't go into business to not earn money, but at the same time, we don't need to be greedy and earn so much money that we destroy everybody else's benefits to just make a gain on our own. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02:

But going back before Christmas, you filled in that application form a long time ago, didn't you? And you chased the channel.

SPEAKER_00:

I chased once just before, I filled it out in uh the end of October, I think it was, and I hadn't heard anything. And um obviously I I done a U and got on Chat GPT, and I was like, mate, listen, I filled this application form at the end of October, it's now start of December, what's going on? And he said, Well you're you're writing your your you're fully in your thing, is in your power to send them a little chase up message. So I opened a ticket on TikTok and said, Look, what's going on? I got a message back saying, Oh, it's it'll be looked at um eventually, basically, in computerised words. Just oh whatever. And I spoke to ChatGBT again, he said, No, you probably won't get it to be fair. It's like an invite-only agency thing. You'll be able to get a cap agency, but this one's quite a big one. You you need to uh you need to be showing proof of concept and everything. Obviously, I had to tell him exactly what we wanted to do, and how were we gonna do it with the affiliates and why it was gonna benefit them as well as us, because TikTok are actually what everyone thinks, whatever what whatever people think, they are actually there to make sure everybody makes money out of it. They don't just want agencies or affiliates, they want everyone to make a bit of money. Um so I was like, alright, fair enough. So we just come to the terms of actually it's not gonna happen, so we'll just do it our own way, we'll do it off the platform, and we'll just do it the way that we can do it without being LinkedIn with TikTok. Would have made it a lot difficult with brands and stuff like that, and affiliate links and all that sort of stuff. So we started working in the background, got it all pretty much up and running, and then I was sitting on the sofa on a Monday morning having a chat with Sam and my email pinged off, and that email is one the the email there is TikTok email, it's not nothing else. So I assumed it was from them, looked down at it and said, Congratulations, your application has been improved. And then when I looked into it, there was four or five different options that we could have requested. I requested all of them, and about three days later they all got accepted, so now it's going real. Yeah, it went from just being oh well to oh my god.

SPEAKER_02:

Like so is that that's probably why you're feeling the way you're feeling, because it's real now.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, mate. Well, you know, you you're fully aware of what I'm up to. I I've I've just rented an office, I've just bought a new MacBook, I've just bought like I'm spending loads of money on, you know, I I mentioned in all my videos where I help people that you've got to spend money, you've got to, you've got to what is it, um speculate to accumulate. Speculate to accumulate, that's it. And I've really speculated, mate, at the minute. I've spent so much money on on stuff that I've never bought before. Obviously, I've had a computer, but I've never spent top of the spec computer and making sure that I'm it doesn't fail on me and stuff so I can do my job properly. So I can't do it at the point where I've spent so much money and now I've got this agency, and I'm just thinking, I've got no option for it to work now. Have I? I've got to put the work in. Not that I wouldn't anyway, but it's just your brain just like my little boy doesn't like going to nursery. And I keep saying to him, when you get there, you love it. Like when I start doing things, I love it. You know, when I get on a Zoom call with people, I love it. I love helping people, I love that feeling it gives you to see people go, like hear people saying, Oh, thank you so much, I'll definitely use that. And you know, there's a lady that's already mentioned in one of my videos, or the video I posted last night. Um, I was waiting for it to be an agency, I can't wait for it to start. She implemented a few things that I said, and she went from making hardly any money, she got a video that done like three and a half million views. You know, and to to know that you're helping people to actually achieve what they want to achieve rather than just say you're gonna do this and do that, and then you don't ever give the service that you're promising, we're not gonna it's not gonna be a numbers game. We don't want thousands of affiliates, we want a few affiliates that we can work really quickly. Quality over quantity, exactly, because otherwise you just make yourself look like a bit of a tit, don't you?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, and it's harder to manage, exactly. It's harder to manage, and like you've got to lean into how you're feeling right now. Yeah, I think. Like from obviously where I sit on my business, I've changed a hell of a lot of things, but we'll do that in another episode. You need to, I've got a feeling now. Correct me if I'm wrong, you've got so many things going on in your head that you've got to do is stopping you do anything. Yeah, as done yesterday, yeah, last couple of days, yeah. Exactly like what we said at the first episode of this season. Yeah, you get to January, you say, I'm gonna stop drinking, stop smoking, run 50 miles a day, do a thousand press-ups an hour, and you're like, Fuck, I'm not doing anything. Whereas you go back to that episode, be like, oh look, if I just do that today and that tomorrow, then get the office done, and I think it would be really good for you to just sort of try and get your ducks in a row a little bit more than your ADHD brain going, fuck, I've got so much to do and I can't do nothing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well that's where I am, because I've got like today I'm waiting on blinds to be delivered. I've got to put blinds in the office because it's it's a ground floor room that's got bifold doors and everything. So if I if I put anything in there, it's gonna be exposed to the elements and everyone will be able to see in there, and I don't particularly want that. So I'm waiting for blinds to be delivered today. Then I've got to wait around for my MacBook to be delivered tomorrow. Then I've got do you know what I mean? So it's it I can't just get in. So once it's all in, the the rent's paid for the month now, so I'm I'm I'm fully committed to the office. Once the blinds are up, once I'm picking a sofa up tonight as well to go in there and just to make it more of a comfortable space as well. Um, because I'm I'll go all out. I'll I'll go all out on it. I'll the office will look like a I've been fucking I've been in there for three years, you know, within the first week that I move in. Um and yeah, it's just it's just you are right, it's about getting all those ducks in in the rows so that I can just go, right, see you like, babe, I'm off to the office. Go to the office, eight o'clock in the morning, sit down, start working, do some content, blah blah blah. Um it'll give me time as well to make you know I uh the office is an area where I can make content, so the podcast will be made. I can make content in the podcast without having crews hanging off my every sentence or leaning on me or grabbing my leg every time I walk through the house, you know. Um but yeah, it's it is you're 100% right, that's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, just fucking strip it back. That's what I do now. I write a list every morning, right? What do I need to do today? Like three things, that's it. Three things you need to do today, and then the rest of the stuff. If you don't do the rest of the stuff, it don't matter. But having that written down, some people do it the night before I do it in the morning when I'm like fresh headed because the night before I'm ah, yeah. But I think that this whole well like and anybody listening, if you've like when you said the other day about going in the gym, that was impossible, that was a form of imposter syndrome. You're going in the gym when someone first films their first bit of content, they're looking at someone that's on their thousandth bit of content, and they're like, Oh my god, I can't do that. You start with one follower, yeah. It's the same, you're gonna start with one client, then two, then three, and then four, then five. Yeah and you're gonna be pushed out of your comfort zone.

SPEAKER_00:

Thing is, the sad thing is I know what I'm doing. Yeah, I just I just I just uh it's just something that I guess it's the so my the I guess the main thing in my head is really is I don't want to let people down. I want to be able to do the things that I say I'm gonna do. That's one of the main things with me. Like I don't I don't like letting people down, and I guess when you have a business that is helping people achieve what they're hoping to achieve, you you kind of even though me and Jenna are so adamant that what we've got, what the way that we're gonna work and what we're gonna give the affiliates is gonna be so beneficial, you still have that seed of doubt in your mind that there'll be the odd for you that might not just go through the you know the process well, and it's but you can't I was on a call last night and there's a young lad in there and he wants to do um it's a business founders group that I'm on on on TikT on WhatsApp, and this young lad's joined, I think he's 23, and he wants to help he's got a lot of knowledge in this.

SPEAKER_02:

He wants to help young people have more energy. That's what he wants to do. To our class as young or no, mate, you're fucking granddad. And me. No, he wants to help young people have more energy. And he was saying last night, oh yeah, but I'm only just starting, but he's now doing it and he's listening to what people are telling him to do. Yeah, and he's pushing himself out of his comfort zone. Another guy, Colton, he was saying last night, this time last year, his Instagram and Facebook had 50,000 views. He just looked at it in the last year 13 million, and that's because he stepped outside his comfort zone, got comfortable with being uncomfortable, yeah, and started making content for his niche. Yeah, and you're fucking good at content. You are good at content. I'm amazed that we don't have thousands of millions of followers because you're much better at content than probably because I don't do any content. Do you know what I mean? You're good at content and you're a likable guy, have more confidence in yourself.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm quite a confident person, but like I say, it's just it's just that it's the it's the new horizon, isn't it? Yeah, we all strive to better ourselves, but sometimes you just get to the point where you think, oh my god, like you if you think right, I started doing TikTok three years ago, yeah. And three years ago, I my videos were do you like being on TikTok? Like, and I could hardly speak on camera, do you know what I mean? What's changed? And now, and now I just I can just I get to pick up a phone and I'll just have a chat with the phone or whatever and do whatever I want, and I don't even think about it. Um I think where it is this m this year as well, I've changed so much of my life completely. Like my diet has completely flipped upside down. I I've can't remember last time I ate any sweets or chocolate or any crap, basically, apart from the other night when I went to the pub, and now I didn't have a beer. Um, you know, I had steak and chips, and the chips were really greasy and fatty, and I loved them, and it was all dripping down my chin, and it's like, oh, actually, my mouth's watering right now, to be fair. Um but you know, like I have completely changed my life and I've changed it because of what I'm doing now. The whole point in January, yes, my fitness levels need to be better for my son, but I knew at the end of the year uh that I needed to change to be able to focus on what I wanted to do, otherwise, I wouldn't have been able to do it. If I'd carried on drinking, I'd be really foggy all the time and just be like, I'll go to the office in a bit. And the affiliates, myself, Jenna wouldn't get the the the the Chris that they all need, and obviously my family, Sam and Cruz, wouldn't get that either. But it was mainly for business side, you know. I can't, I need to have to concentrate. I'm gonna have to be on Zoom calls with professional people and pretend that I'm a professional person, you know, even though I'm Chris.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, I'm not yeah, but that's quite interesting. I um we had an acoustic guitarist in the business on Saturday night for a gig in honour of my old man. Now, my daughter who's 11, Dad, are we gonna get to meet him? Of course you are. We're they're sitting in here, we're having a chat with him. He was warming up in the studio light. And I said to her, I said, Isla, I said, you need to learn that we are all people. We are all just because that person's got a thousand followers, million followers on Instagram, yeah, and they look like they're doing what they're still a person.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And since I learnt that, everything sort of changed for me. I don't put people on pedestals. I can be myself around people. If you don't like me, then don't like me. Yeah. And I've learned that through I went to about a year ago, I reckon, when I started this business, Rob Moore did an event at his office in Peterborough where you go and pitch for£10,000. Just money, you go and pitch it. And I went to this thing and I overcomplicated everything. I think I had like 90 seconds to pitch, and I went up there and I was absolutely crapping myself. I was so bad. But loads on Dragon's Den or something. The pitch was terrible. Like I felt it was. Everybody said, Oh, you did really well. I felt the pitch was absolutely terrible. I didn't get the money, whatever, but we moved. But I learned so much from that day, and I drove away from that that night thinking, you to, why weren't you yourself? Why was you trying to be someone you're not and impress other people in the room that you don't know and you're never gonna meet again?

SPEAKER_00:

And I think that's a good point, and I think that's why why I genuinely believe that what we're gonna do is gonna work because for my entire life, I've tried to people please, I've tried to be somebody that I'm not. Like every room that I've gone in, if there's people in that have got more money in me, I tried to be somebody I'm not, I tried to speak better, I tried to act better, my behaviour is different. And actually, TikTok's just allowed me to be Chris, and everybody that sees my videos, everybody that sees me talking or anything that goes on a Zoom call, they're getting Chris, they're getting the same person that my wife gets, yeah, they're getting the same person that my son and my family get and my friends, you know, and and I think that's why people resonate with me, because actually they can see that I'm a decent bloke and doesn't fill them with a load of bullshit. Yeah. Because there's a load of it on the platform, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, there's so much of it, and that's like we're surrounded in people living through highlight reels and stuff. Whereas, like we spoke about trust the other day, and we spoke about like why the live shopping work so well, because in a day of AI, but that when you first started doing those lives, I tried to do it. I need to go live on my TikTok for like 25 minutes in order to be able to do live shopping. Now it's something that I want to have a go at. Like, I'm not, do you know what I mean? I've got a business to run, but I want to do it because it's gonna help with the content for the business. But sitting there like this with my phone, oh there's one person in there, there's one mate. I've got I've got two. What do I say? What do I do? That's like proper putting me out of my comfort zone. I'll sit on this podcast. If we had 10,000 listeners, I don't care. But this isn't live that doing live shopping, that's like that's proper imposter syndrome for me, whereas you smash it. But 18 months ago you didn't smash it.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no, I was petrified. Again, I just didn't well I don't know whether it was imposter syndrome, it was just pure actual nerves. Like I was so nervous to do it, but I guess again, you're in a room where you've never been before, and it you kind of I suppose it is to a certain extent imposter syndrome, isn't it? Yeah, imposter syndrome, and I think I don't know, like you get it in every every angle of life, even if you're like cooking, you know. I I when I first mum met my missus, I and I'm sure she won't mind me saying this, but her mum and dad, you know, they lived in a fucking great big house, and I pulled up at the driveway, the big double gates opened up, and I drove in the driveway and absolutely shit myself because it was Chris. I was thinking I was a labourer at the time, you know. Chris in his clapped-out motor pulled up in the driveway, went into the house and met the mob and thank God the dad wasn't there. But you know, I'm I'm in a house where I don't, I don't I've never been before. I've never been like my girlfriend's never had a house like this, I've never been, I've never even been in a house like this. Yeah, you know, like I don't deser I I don't really deserve to be here. Like maybe I'm maybe this isn't the relationship for me, I'm in the wrong setting here. So that's him you can get it in all walks of life, can't you? Starting a new job, you get an upgrade in the job from I don't know, you work at fucking Tesco's and then you're a manager, you walk into the manager's office, imposter syndrome kicks in in, doesn't it? We all go through it all the time in life.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and I think it's important to understand that it's healthy. Yeah. I think it's if you don't have it, it means you're not pushing yourself. And I'll hold my hands up and say that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, like like I said, when that that podcast of Mel that Mel Robinson that I watched, she basically just said that it it's where you're walking into a room where you don't know the people in it and you don't know what to do to be part of the crowd in there, but you're actually in there for a reason. You you're in there because you deserve to be in there, otherwise you wouldn't be in that room.

SPEAKER_01:

So you

SPEAKER_00:

You should be proud of yourself, first of all, for having imp imposter syndrome, because it means that you are doing something new, something exciting, something that you've been striving towards, and it's not a bad thing at all, but it just makes you feel I suppose it's like a it's like a form of anxiety, I suppose, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's exactly what it is. And I think that I try and I deliberately now try and because I understand it a bit better, I deliberately try and make myself feel uncomfortable and have imposter syndrome. I deli I went to the gym with the Vikings on Saturday morning, first time I've done the gym session, and they're all doing it, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, this is hard work. There's like 40 of us in this gym just doing circuits around the thing. And I'm like, I've watched the video, mate. It looks tough that it does look tough. It was tough. And when I first walked in there, like, and this because a year ago I wouldn't have been able to do that. I would have been talking myself out, and I was like, You've got to do that because that's not comfortable. It's like then they all went for a C dip. Well, I walked down to the sea. Oh, you didn't do it. No, no, fucking. Oh, you could see the weather on Saturday morning. That um that is so bad. And I went down to the sea, and they're like, Oh, you don't look dressed to come in. I was like, No, I'm just watching you lot, mate. Um, but I've got to do it. I've got to do it because it's pushing me outside of my comfort zone.

SPEAKER_00:

You could have texted me, I would have come.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, well, we we do it. We've got to film it. I'm just trying to wait for a nice sunny morning. But no, we'll do it. We'll do it. And like, have it sometimes you need other people to push you in your thing. Like, I'll push you if you want. I'll say, no, Chris, fucking get it. You can do it, mate.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You can fucking do it. I know the the the the annoying thing is I know that I I know that I can do it, and I know that I'll be good at it because whatever I set my mind, and this is not sounding like a big-headed sweat because I hate I hate that kind of feeling, but I know that what I whatever I put my mind to, if I really want to achieve it, I'll achieve it. So it's not it's not the case of I don't think I'll I'll be able to do it, it's just a case of how have I got here? Do you know what I mean? Like how have how have I gained trust from people that don't even know me? How do people turn up on Zoom calls? How do people comment in my videos? Do you know why it is? Nah. Because you've allowed yourself to be yourself. Yeah, well, yeah, I suppose you're just I said.

SPEAKER_02:

It's like the podcast, people either like us or they hate us. What are these two? Some people resonate with it, some people don't. I'm fine with that. I'm absolutely fine with it. Of course, yeah. You can't win everything in life. And someone said to me, if you're not being turned down more than you're being accepted, you're not pushing hard enough.

SPEAKER_00:

I used to use that line when I used to go out on the clubbing actually when I was on the call.

SPEAKER_02:

Sorry, Sam, if you're listening out to me. I've had 27 girls tell me no, so yeah, yeah. But I think it's true in everything. Yeah, if every single client that you're taking on saying yes to your price straight away, you're too cheap. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's yeah, if every single person is agreeing with what you're saying, then you need to push yourself harder. And if you don't ever walk into a space and feel a little bit, oh, do I belong here? Then you need to walk into some more spaces. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean I do love it because I you know I've I think I've mentioned to you before, I used to always do one thing that frightened me every year, whether it be a skydive, a bungee jump, or run a marathon or something. But obviously, I haven't done anything for ages, so I'm not used to this feeling. Yeah. So this feeling used to come and go all the time with me, because I used to force myself into really uncomfortable positions. But actually, I've not really been that uncomfortable for well, since probably the first time I went live nearly two years ago, and the first time I posted on TikTok nearly three years ago. So it's it's probably a feeling that I'm used to, but I just haven't had it for a while.

SPEAKER_02:

It's weird, isn't it? Because as humans, like you buy the car, you want the bigger car, you buy the house, you want a bigger house. We want all these things, but we're not willing to step outside our comfort zone in order to get them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and that's one of the one of the big things about like what we're gonna be doing as well. We're gonna be teaching people that. You know, people like you you see people posting on TikTok, oh you want to earn this much money every week for the rest of your life, all you've got to start doing is posting one video a week a week on TikTok or post three videos a day, it's bullshit. Yeah, you know, like there's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02:

And the other thing I would say, obviously, you've got like the final boss of TikTok, the Hawk Turgal. Yeah, they went viral overnight and doors open for them. Whereas if you've compounded the steps and then you get it, and it's been gradual, it's a lot harder to lose it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Whereas if you're yeah, right, I posted one video and made a load of money. The next time when you post that video, you're not gonna make a load of money. You're not gonna if you get a deal, like for me, for example, if I get a deal and it was easy, then I'm gonna think all the rest of them are easy. Whereas you've got to, I think you're like, I love, I absolutely thrive off of now phoning that person who I've put on a pedestal for all those years, then they're way too good for me. Yeah, they're way too good for mine. I couldn't possibly supply that. No, of course I can.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you're just doing the same thing for just somebody else, isn't it? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

You're just doing the same thing for someone else. And if you really can't do it, what they're asking, then say no. But if there's a slight thing in your head, yeah, I can do that. Then go for it. Push yourself out, you'll learn something. Yeah, you will learn something.

SPEAKER_00:

I I want to go off on a tangent here quickly. Go on. I had an offer yesterday from somebody, right? You know, I keep talking about going to the gym and stopping drinking. I got an I got a message from an underwear brand yesterday. Did you? You're gonna be doing an underwear model. It's one of the biggest underwear brands in the UK. They want me to they want me to model some underwear. Really? Yeah. I got a like they got a big fat no, fuck off. Is it is it a woman's underwear? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pop up bras, push up bras. Uh no, yeah. I I couldn't believe it. I had to tell you that. I was gonna tell you that earlier on, actually. I thought it was quite funny. I just messaged them out saying, Have you seen me naked? I'm not sure. Why didn't you show you on it? Why didn't you do it? Because I'm because I'm not listening I know I like to put myself out of my comfort zone, mate, but that is well out of my comfort zone.

SPEAKER_02:

Apparently, according to fat people on TikTok. I can't say fat people. According to chubby men on TikTok, women love a chubby man. I noticed you called someone bald in one of your videos this morning. Well that's because he was an MP and he was an absolute toll. Um but yeah, um, you should have taken it. Yeah, well. I think you should have done it. No.

SPEAKER_00:

Had a bit of a laugh with it. Yeah, but that's not me. I I I I I I'm body conscious, mate. That's one thing I will always be. Doesn't matter whether I have a six pack, eight pack, or a one pack, I'll always be body conscious. Really? Yeah, I always have been, like, for my entire life. Just was it body dysmorphia or something? Yeah, yeah. I feel like I look 25 stone rather than 16 and a half. Yeah. Which is yeah, but that's a different story, yeah. That is one of my uncomfortable things. Someone called me uh miserable looking on my live the other night, and uh that was the first comment that ever got to me on the live, to be fair. That might be coming in and giving me grief, but someone said, Cy, you look so miserable, your life must be terrible. And I just thought, oh great. That's I said to him, right, mate, that's my face I was born with, I can't change it. Yeah, but yeah, just I just uh that's something I even when I when I was younger and I was fit and slim, I just didn't really like taking my top off. Just don't know why, yeah. So underwear's just not really for me, mate. Don't mind chucking a pair of knickers on or something.

SPEAKER_02:

I get them asking that's the rehouse of the weekend while I'm doing the cleaning. Maybe I'll take the next one that I get because I get them asking me look at my lingerie. Would you like to be a model for my lingerie?

SPEAKER_00:

We really like your content, we think it would really fit with our style of stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

And this is a I'll get banned from TikTok, mate. I'll get banned from all the channels.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no one wants to see a bollock or something hanging outside of a pair of knickers, do they?

SPEAKER_02:

No, they don't. Well, you never know, mate. You never know.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, this is gone off on a tangent. I'm so sorry, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's fine. Um, but yeah. But pulling it back in, you have it's a I reckon it's a mixture between you're pushing yourself outside your comfort zone and you're not as confident in your ability as you should be, Christopher.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, it's always been the way, and I think and to be quite honest with you, mate, I quite like it that way. Yeah. Because it keeps me grounded, it makes me not act like a bit of a big-headed twat, and um I think that's why why I've got where I am, because I think it just keeps you just on a level par with everybody else instead of thinking that you're you're better than everybody. Because at the end of the day, there's that saying, in it, we all come in the same, we all go away the same. And don't think that anyone's better than you either. No, I don't. I don't mean you just. There's a big saying in in my in my wife's family, uh, she probably won't like me saying this, but I I really disagree with it. Um they say uh no one's better than us. I think it is, or who's better than us? No one. Well, I hate it. And I've had an argument about it as well, you know? Uh because we are it literally doesn't matter what cloth you come from, doesn't matter where you live or what house you live in, doesn't matter what car you drive, doesn't matter whether you're on the council list or whether you're in a five million pound house, everybody is exactly the same, and that's why you should speak to everybody the same way, treat everybody the same way, and behave the same way around everybody.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah, I I completely agree with you. Obviously, if someone's being a dick, then they're a dick. You can't change that.

SPEAKER_00:

But that's what I mean. So if they're a dick, you treat them like I'm a dick, like they're a dick. Do you know what I mean? It's as simple as that. But um, yeah, we're all we're all cut from the same cloth, mate. Whatever cloth it was. Yeah. Is then they, them, we I'm kind of a nylon guard, imagine you're probably a bit more cotton than me.

SPEAKER_02:

PvC. Um cool. Well, I think that's uh Did you hear my stomach rumble in? Did you hear that? You're hungry again. Oh mate. You're hungry. Um that was good, I enjoyed that. That was off the cuff. No notes, no nothing. Just a chat. So like a good chat. I feel much better now, actually. I feel like I haven't got imposter syndrome anymore. But I'm glad it's not imposter now. Syndrome, Chris. It's the fact that you don't have enough confidence in your own ability. Yeah, but it's a good thing.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And now I'm gonna set you some challenges for the bonus episode. Oh god, to make it even worse. Well, when we do the bonus episode, in a minute. But yeah. So that's another episode of the Untold Podcast. And if you've enjoyed it, please subscribe, like, share, just drop us a comment. It really does help. If even if you thought it was shit, drop us a comment and we can get better.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

We are getting better. Some some episodes are worse than others, some are much better than others. But we need uh we do need support from listeners because it is quite when you when you're uh when we're getting loads of messages, we were getting loads of messages last season, weren't we? Yeah, and that makes them much easier, doesn't it? We've not had many messages this month, have we so far?

SPEAKER_02:

It's imposter syndrome, it's should we really be doing this, Chris?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Should we be spending our time doing this, spending our money doing this? Yes, we fucking should, because it feels a bit uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So if it feels uncomfortable, chances are you should be doing it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Because sitting on the sofa and doing fuck all is comfortable. Yeah. But that don't do you no good.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what I'm doing right now when I go home? Sitting on the sofa doing fuck all.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I'm not, I'm not. I know you're not. You got some things to do, mate.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, quite a lot to do, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. Well, that's it then. That's the episode finished. That's it. Thanks for listening. Remember the bonus episode comes in Thursdays, Monday and Thursday now.

SPEAKER_01:

Monday and Thursday.

SPEAKER_02:

I've got some lovely things for Chris. Great. We'll uh yeah, like, subscribe, share, comment, tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your brother, tell your rabbit, reindeer, whatever you want. Um, help us grow this podcast because we really want to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Definitely. And if you don't, then we won't be able to grow it. If you don't, Simon cry. Please, please share it and love it and just like it.