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Schizophrenic Music
A genre-jumping, decade-spanning music podcast where Craig and Kevin riff, rank, and occasionally roast their way through underrated albums, ridiculous matchups, and unexpected playlists.
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Schizophrenic Music
S6 – Ep 9 | The Return of Either/Or & Overlooked Gems from 1965
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This week kicks off with a little Either/Or — as Craig & Kevin throw 10 rapid-fire matchups to each other — forcing some tough decisions from a variety of topics.
From there we move onto our Overlooked / Underrated Album of the week, which comes from 1965.
Craig spotlights Kenny Dorham’s Trompeta Toccata — a sleek, minimalist jazz masterpiece that defies the era’s noise with its cool, hypnotic trumpet lines. Kevin counters with Jackson C Frank’s S/T — a self-released surrealist R&B gem blending jazz textures, spoken-word poetry, and glitchy electronic whispers.
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Hello. Welcome into schizophrenic music. My name is Craig. I'm joined here by my friend and fellow podcaster, Kevin Glovek. Hello. And we are going to talk about music, of course. We're going to dive back into our list. Our list being 1960 to 2025. Underrated overlooked albums or both. This week's random selection came from 1973. Some more 70s in there. We've officially eclipsed the halfway mark, so that's cool. So we're we're we're getting there, but we have a lot left. But as we always start in our normal fashion to celebrate. What you got, Kevin? Founders more to bloom.
SPEAKER_01Alright, I have a Gate City Citrus Maximus. Maximus.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we've got a couple of go-to's here. Alright, you ready? Three, two, one.
SPEAKER_01Maybe they fixed something, you know, and made it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've been hearing it lately, which is nice.
SPEAKER_01And I will drink out of my Gary City glass too.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, I wish I I lost another glass. I had another. Man, I lost my West 6 glass from uh Lexington, uh, Kentucky. I'm like bummed. It uh got cracked. I have one of these um drying racks that hangs over the sink and it's pretty it can be unstable, and I didn't realize it was towards the edge, and I caught it and thought I caught it in time, and nope. Cracked it. Damn it. Anyway, still have this guy. Cheers.
SPEAKER_01Cheers, uh, cheers.
SPEAKER_00All right, so before we go into our before we go into our albums here, once again from 1973, I do have an either or or either-or for Kevin. Oh, really? Do you have anything for me?
SPEAKER_01I did not do an either-or or that. I probably had one from back when, but I probably delinquent.
SPEAKER_00No worries, man. I got I got us covered. Brace yourself, this one is hard. This one it's hard. This one's good. This one's gonna be. I might get some uh some profanity from Kevin on this one. But anyway. Let's uh let's start, shall we? Kevin, either or David Bowie, a lad insane, or Almond Brothers, brothers and sisters. I am gonna have to go Allman Brothers, brothers and sisters. All right. Figured you'd go that direction. All right. Kevin, Almond Brothers, brothers and sisters, or Black Sabbath. Sabbath, bloody Sabbath.
SPEAKER_01That's that's really not very uh that's not very fair. Totally different places, you know, when you listen to those. Which is tough. Neither. No. Both. Uh okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Brothers and Sisters is an incredible album. But I am going to go Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
SPEAKER_00All right. Didn't know where you're gonna go on that one, so that's cool. Okay. Sabbath, bloody Sabbath, I might change it tomorrow, but if you ask me again, but yeah. Sabbath, bloody Sabbath, or do we brothers, the captain me? Sabbath, bloody Sabbath. Okay. Uh Black Sabbath, Sabbath, bloody Sabbath, or faces. Ooh la. I'm sticking with Sabbath. Okay. Here's where to me it gets even trickier. Black Sabbath, Sabbath, bloody Sabbath, or Led Zeppelin, Houses of the Holy.
SPEAKER_01I mean it's probably wrong. It's probably, you know, I don't know. I mean, two classic, classic bands. And you know, you can't, I mean, I mean, what's up, Lenny? Come on. I'm gonna stick with I'm gonna stick with Black Sabbath.
SPEAKER_00Okay, just cause all right. Blasphemy. But anyway, um Sabbath, bloody Sabbath, or Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. You know.
SPEAKER_01I I would say um I don't know, more of a Sabbath fan than a Pink Floyd fan, but then I don't know. But okay, yeah, I gotta go Dark Side of the Moon.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, or Paul McCartney and Wings, band on the run. I'm just thinking with Dark Side of the Moon. Yeah, this one might run to the wire from here on out. Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon or The Stooges Raw Power. Great album. Dark Side. Yep, I agree. All right, Dark Side of the Moon or Stevie Wonder Inner Visions.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's not even wow. Intervisions is excellent. I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with Dark Side of the Moon. Okay, I mean it would have been challenging for me. There's like four or five, there's like four just like incredible can't be Stevie Wonder albums, and that's one of them. I mean, that's one of probably top two. For sure. And it's excellent. But I don't know, I'm just feeling I mean, Dark Side of the Moon is just a just um not that Intervisions isn't, but it's just a classic. It's just that, you know, I don't know, something special about Dark Side of the Moon. For sure. Rarely listen to it, but right. I don't pull it. I rarely say, ooh, you know, let me listen to Dark Side. I'm sure I listen to Intervisions more much many, you know, more frequently for sure than I do Dark Side of the Moon. Yeah, me too. Probably a whole bunch of those other ones. Yeah. You know, I just like I it's kind of like I don't know, you know, I love ACDC, but how often do I pull out Black and Black? Not that often. It's just I don't know. I've heard it so many times, maybe.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. That's kind of my thing. But Dark Side's a special album. I get it. It's it's probably my third or fourth favorite album from them. Uh, but it's because I've heard it so many times. It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. Do you know who produced that? Who produced, I'm sorry, Dark Side? Dark Side.
SPEAKER_01Uh well, uh what's his name was in the studio? Alan Parsons was in there, right? So he was a yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think I think he's the either producer or the engineer, wasn't he? Yeah. He's he's instrumental to the sound. So alright, one last one. I don't think this one's gonna bit beat it, but it is a spectacular album. Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon or Z Z Top's Trace Hombres.
SPEAKER_01Um great album, Trace Hombres. But I will stick with uh Dark Side of the Moon.
SPEAKER_00Awesome. That's a tough lineup. So so the the theme of this, of course, you probably know this from looking at our choices from this year. These are majority of the big albums, not all of them. Of course, I did not put billion dollar babies in there because that would have not been fair. It would have won, it would have mopped up. But these are some big albums for sure. I think you know, maybe the caveat being Doobie Brothers Captain of Me is still a great album. Uh, but all these other ones are like signatures, signature albums.
SPEAKER_01I mean, brothers and sisters, I might either any of those, like brothers and sisters, intervisions, Houses of the Holy, and Dark Side of the Moon, all could. I mean, some of the other ones, some are great, like, but I've never I'm not as big into faces as probably you know, Almond Brothers or Stevie. There's some other Raw Power, that's excellent too. There's some great stuff on there. But yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think my go-to.
SPEAKER_01I could change my mind if you ask me again, like five minutes from now. I was gonna say I just picked this up the other day. Oh, nice. You know, they're trace soundbraves, but it's uh, you know.
SPEAKER_00I think my biggest ones are Faces, uh Led Zeppelin, of course, Paul McCartney and Wings, and Stevie Wonder would be my top four in this one. I forgot about Wings. That's Band on the Run, right? Yeah, that's a great album. Such a great album. That's a good year. Yeah, it's a killer year. That's not including, like I said, billion dollar babies. Uh there are a couple of other things. If you I mean, if you want to get technical, you got uh Toots and the Metals with uh some funky Kingston. I love that album. Some good stuff. All right. Um do you want to go to our albums?
SPEAKER_01Oh, sure. You know, I should have got something for you. Maybe I should have.
SPEAKER_00There's three I see in here that easily could be your pick.
SPEAKER_01There's one that I want to pick, but then I was like, yeah, I don't know if I want to pick it just because of what I've we've talked about it before. Right. And and you know, it's just I don't know. So let me pull something up here, but oh yeah, I already I already did. So I had a uh either or thing for you, but I think I already I already did it for you.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so I am gonna go first. Um I'm gonna go with something that I feel like is just an an overlooked artist, an overlooked style of music. I don't even know if you know this guy. Um I discovered him, I don't know, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, something like that. I've been listening to him for a while. I only have like three or four albums from him, but I love his stuff. I don't know why I don't seek out more. Um you just don't see a lot of it out there. But uh Kevin, are you familiar with a guy by the name of Baden Powell? I don't I don't think so. So Baden is B-A-D-E-N, and of course Powell P-O-W-E-L-L. It sounds familiar, but I couldn't, I couldn't, I would be lying if I This is considered kind of Brazilian global jazz, Latin jazz, international jazz, guitar player virtuoso. He has an album called Solitude on Guitar. This is how overlooked he is. This is AllMusic's album pick. Let me read you their review. Oh, I can't. There is not one. How on earth can this be your album pick and you don't even have a write-up? That's pretty sad. Yeah, I look, we we're sometimes too generous of all music and sometimes we're a little too critical, but I feel like that's pretty lame. Let's just say it's just to me, it's you know, this is the the the pocket of I don't know, you don't have to be a jazz fan to enjoy this music. It's very, very serene, very, very um melodic, very peaceful. Um, you don't have to be a virtuosic guy, you don't have to seek out that style of guitar. It just happens to be just amazing playing. But what you're hearing in the background or what you're hearing in your earphones is just beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. Love this album, all instrumental. It's just incredible. Incredible uh compositions. Uh, some of those are his own compositions, some of them are traditional uh songs. Um it's kind of I've equated to kind of like Sessa in that I think it would be a good entry point into something international that I think people could easily grasp onto. Um just phenomenal playing. Not I, you know, I'm not doing it justice, but just an incredible album. It gets five stars. It gets four and a half stars on Allmusic, albeit with no review. And the user rating is five with 43, 43 reviewers. So that to me, that kind of says it all. It's amazing. Uh incredible player. Don't know anybody that knows him. You know, maybe Mark, talk to Mark, maybe Mark might be familiar with him, but yeah. Okay. Brazilian jazz, instrumental guitar, very virtuosic. Uh, this is pretty much just him on guitar. It's incredible. It's called Solitude on Guitar. So yes, it's just him. All right. I will check that out.
SPEAKER_01I'm all about the you know it's wonderful. Brazilian stuff. So, yes.
SPEAKER_00Before I read off my honorable mentions, I'm gonna let you go with yours because I think yours will be one of my honorable mentions.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I'll I'll let I'll I'll probably have some honorable mentions, but there's one for sure that I would say I would almost pick. And there's there's other some other things. There's lots, I'll let you, I'll name, I guess what so there's a bunch of like really good like early 70s, well 73. There's lots of really good like hard rock albums, unsung like hard rock bands that released albums in 73. Lots of great stuff that I could pick a few of a different ones. For there's one that we've talked about, and there's three guys that are very well known, or at least two and a half of them are one and a half are well known, that I could pick. But I'm not gonna pick that, even though it's just it's a great album. We'll talk about it. We'll we'll continue to talk about. I guess we'll talk about that since I'm not picking. There's another one that we owe to another person that we used to talk to. That's an incredible, credible album. I'll let you talk about that too. I'm not gonna pick that. I wanted to pick that because it's just like I think it's one of the you know, it's one of those discoveries. I wish there was more from them, but it's one of those discoveries that was really a spectacular discovery. Like none of us knew it, and it was like, oh my god, this is an incredible album, right? So we'll we'll talk we'll talk more about that. But I'm not picking that. So that's when there's a whole bunch of them. But there's an album by a band. So I'm gonna go, um, like there's certain times I'm gonna tout or you know, whatever, get behind certain forms of music. And there is, we always talk about me and the world stuff, and I know I picked uh Zamrock album. I think I did Amenaz for I think it was 77, probably one of those years. There's a band, and they probably released their greatest album in 1973, and that is the a band by the name of I can if I don't, I mean they have a song that says their name, so hopefully at least I can hear it and and uh and and it sounds like it, but it's a band out of Nigeria called Ophage, which is O F-E-G-E. O-F-E-G-E. Now they describe like it's basically if you talk about like describing them, they're a bunch of they got together in college in the seven early 70s, they call them a bunch of hippies from like St. Gregory's College and Lagos, and they say influenced by guitar legends like Carlos Santana, Jimmy Page, as well as African bands like Osabisa, which I talked about before. Basically a blend of like psychedelic rock and Afrobeat. You know, put that together so they're like a psychedelic rock band, but you can tell they're African, right? So it's like just really cool stuff. Their album is called uh Try and Love. Try and Love. So Ophage O F-E-G-E. Might not say it exactly right, but they've released some other stuff uh as well in that uh I have like some like things that were re-released, you know, like they have 73, then one 78, and then there's some that was, I guess, re-released in like 2022, because I guess they were uh, you know, there's certain some of those labels that started doing doing their stuff again. Strut records, they were music out of I think like Germany, something like that, started really re-releasing some of their stuff. So nice, just excellent. Nigerian psych rock, you know.
SPEAKER_00So you went Nigerian, I went Brazilian. Look at us. We were just world.
SPEAKER_01But there's a bunch of other bands, and um there's bands that you aren't talking about that I think are there's like really cool stuff that year. Granicus is this band, like a heavy, they're like a hard rock band. They did that. There's one called uh, I think Warpig, which was another heavy band of that time. Uh, bands like that. They were like sound, you know, sounded a lot like, you know, you know, maybe blue cheer influence, a lot of like deep purple type sound, but bands that had that sound but never really made it like a tur a purple or a zeppelin or someone like that, right? There was a Labby Sifri album that year as well, but I did not pick that because I've already gone, I've already gone that direction.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I haven't doubled up on anybody. That's not my intent is to always go with somebody different.
SPEAKER_01Another album band called Incredible Hog. Heavy British, I think, band. This sounded great. And then there's a like a metal band called Necromandis, which was really kind of a little dark and whatnot. Budgie had an album out that year, which was really good. Budgie, they never quite made it to that next level, like maybe they should have. And then one more Stray Dog was another one that's a really good, heavy, like a hard rock band from that time, but just didn't take it to the next level. Or like Buffalo, another band called Buffalo. They had a great album too. Just really good stuff, but not that next, never made it to that next level. There's a lot of like unheralded hard rock bands that never made it like a purple or a Zeppelin side.
SPEAKER_00I love it. That's a good uh that's a good checklist right there for sure. These are all okay, so the two we were talking about, we'll start with the first one. The the I love how you said it's two and a half. Of course, we're talking about Beck, Bogrit in a Peace. Self-titled album. Excellent, could have easily gone that way. Uh the the recommendation that we got from Juan was Pescado Rabbioso. Oh, god. And the album is called Art Hald. Uh I'm telling you guys this album is incredible. Um, it's one of my favorite albums.
SPEAKER_01From Argentina, they're just an Argentine like psych psychedelic rock band, and it's just incredible. Incredible album. If you like anything, if you like world type stuff and like rock and roll, or I mean a lot of it's mellow. It's just, I don't know, it's just a uh it's just a cool album. Could have easily picked that. I almost did, but I'm like, nah, we talked about it before, so I didn't want to. I knew we'd bring it up.
SPEAKER_00We've definitely talked about this band, and it's not their best, but I think it's a great album. It's one of Kevin's favorites. Uh Zamrock, which redeem uh they released uh Introducing. I think Introducing is excellent. It's it's one of my favorites from them. Um it's not I mean, it's not their signature album, but I think it's a hell of an album. Um couple other ones here that I felt like just don't get mentioned that much. I've mentioned this album before on pretty much all the podcasts, but I think Mott from Mott the Hoopal is just fantastic.
SPEAKER_01Excellent album.
SPEAKER_00Has a little bit of a glam influence, has some Bowie influence in there too. It's very diverse record, very diverse. I once I heard that album, I realized that I just completely pigeonholed Mott the Hoopal in a very wrong way. I love that album. One of the first albums I bought on vinyl, actually. And I think this album, as far as the debut album, is I mean, just grossly underrated, overlooked. I think their first four or five albums are excellent. It's a band that definitely got a little cheesy in the 90s and got into the ballads and stuff and the soundtracks and stuff. But and it's no, it's not as good as Get Your Wings or follow-up album. But I I love that self-titled Larry Smith album. I love it. Um it's gritty, it's super raw, it's not that well produced, but that's what makes it that's what makes it good. That's what makes it great, man. They they never did another album that sounded quite that raw, which I just love. Um I said the said thing about the first Springsteen album. Now it's not his best album, but I love it because it's just so energetic and so free. And that's the way I like how stripped down that self-titled um, you know, Dream On's on it. Um I mean, there's there's only a couple of hits on there. I think that might be the only you know big hit on there. And that's what another thing I like about it is you know, you're you're hearing some songs, some bluesy tracks. Um, so anyway, those are my you know, Aerosmith self-titled, Beck Bogart of Peace, Matha Hoople, Pescado Rabbioso, and Witch were my five.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, great, all agree. There's one more that I almost put on there was uh singer-songwriter, and I think I played it and we were talking about him a few weeks back. His name is Sandy Harless. Sandy. And he had an album not called just songs, excellent singer-songwriter stuff. Ryan's we have like the kind of Jim Sullivan, that whole, you know, that vein, you know, that just good singer-songwriter stuff. But I was looking, like, talk about it. Easily could have been the album we're talking about. It was Beck Broker Peace, because I know that's an album that we like, and we've talked about it. You and I have talked about it in the past. But like it gets recorded. Two and a half stars on all music. It's just and like the way that this is what makes me mad when people that's when you know I'll always go and always have a soft spot for you know hard rock and heavy metal, something that's that's hard and heavy, right? But it's like one of the great and most maddening things about Jeff Beck was his utter unpredictability. You know, like lead to flights of genius as it is to weird detours like Beck Bogart a piece. It's hard to tell what exactly attracted Beck to the rhythm section of vanilla fudge and cactus. Perhaps he just wanted to rock really loud and really hard, beating Zeppelin at their own game. Whatever the motivation, the end result was the same. A leaden album with occasional interesting guitar work smothered by heavy riffs and rhythms that don't succeed on a visceral level. It's a loud and lumbering record that may be of interest for Beck archivists, provided they want to hear absolutely everything he did. That's crap.
SPEAKER_00That's a crap review. Sorry. Well, I think that deserves a little revisionist history. It's almost like somebody wrote that review in the midst of everything else we mentioned earlier, like the Houses of the Holy in the Dark Side. I mean, if you're gonna compare it to that, then yes, it sucks.
SPEAKER_01Right. Okay, yeah. Jeff Beck is obviously the most probably talented person in that band, right? But you know, it wasn't like it wasn't like a Jeff Beck album, right? He was playing, I mean, Comrade of Peace and Tim Bogart are excellent players, and I don't know. Right. I just think that's I don't know, interesting.
SPEAKER_00A little bit of a slight. I like I said, I just don't understand why we can't appreciate just a really solid rock record, and that's what it is. Right. I mean, it's I'm not expecting to be loaned away. Look, I Jeff Beck, I will agree his stuff is maddening sometimes because he's so talented and uh some of the material's just not there. I I I still say Beck Ola is one of the best albums out there. I think it kicks ass. I love Rock and Rod on it.
SPEAKER_01I'd rather listen to Beck Boger to Peace than a whole bunch of than a lot of the Beck solo stuff.
SPEAKER_00I put Beck Boger to Peace up there is some of the best stuff he did, honestly. I I like it. I think it's a solid four-star record. That's that's oh yeah, definitely not two and a half. Yeah, two and a half is is absolutely I don't get it. I've seen but I've seen reviews like that. It's like you know, two and a half, three stars, and then you read the review and it's like it doesn't read anything like that. It's like ah, this is a really good record, you know, recommended for fans of Jeff Beck and all members involved, and it's like, why'd you give it two and a half stars? So at least that matches the tone of the review. But well, mentioned this earlier because we're talking about this is a good transition to get into a little bit of a topic here. Yes, sir. Um because we've talked about two things. We talked about Amoeba, what's in my bag? Yep, we've talked about Trackstar, big fans of Trackstar on YouTube. Both of those are our channels that we follow on on YouTube. Um and we s and you think about music journalism, right? Uh especially print. I don't know if I mean when's the last time you saw a Rolling Stone magazine? Like an actual printed copy? I it's been a while. Only time I see them is if somebody, a family member, gives me something for Christmas, which I haven't done in years. But you know, it's like a commemorative. Here's the Elvis Costello or the David Bowie. That's cool. But like just your average and then you I think about like reviews. So I guess my thing is has do you think YouTube in a way has replaced or I don't know if replace is a good word, but is kind of seen in the same light or a little bit higher than music journalism, traditional music journalism.
SPEAKER_01I wonder how much people anybody's reading, like what is the circulation of some of these magazines, you know, like uh do people pick up a copy of Pitchfork, right? Are they not even are they even a paper thing anymore? Or like paste or any of those? I mean, they're all online, right?
SPEAKER_00Paste at one point was print. Rolling Stone, of course, we know the the classic magazines were, of course, right? I think paste paste definitely was. Was I don't think paste is, and I don't think pitchfork has ever been. And by the way, now I don't know why, but I was telling you, I was hinting towards when you go to Pitchfork and you go to a review, right? They were starting to blur the score. So they had a to make you pay for it, right? They had an album that was recommended, it was like, you know, one of the higher picks of the year, so it gets there highly rated. That one showed the the score. Every other review I looked at blurred it out and said to see the score, and I don't even know if you could read the whole review, you had to subscribe. Right. I mean, that's just the direction, you know, that's probably the direction they feel like they have to go. They have to go. But uh once again, therein lies the problem. YouTube's free as long as you don't mind seeing ads.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00So and they make their revenue in other ways. They make their revenue by the number of clicks. It's not just subscribers, it's not just people that are paying. It's the algorithm sees that, oh, holy crap, you know, 21,000 views, and it compensates them for that, right? I don't know why Pitchfork and places like that don't look at it that same way, or I don't know how how you would monetize that because YouTube is its own beast, but that goes back to say, right, in my eyes, I pay more attention to these YouTube reviewers, and they're not even reviewers, they're just shows, you know. Right. I mean, Trackstar's not reviewing.
SPEAKER_01I know like I used to get like I I mean I haven't picked up a Rolling Stone in forever, and I'm not a huge, you know, I didn't, you know, not a huge Rolling Stone fan. But uh I was getting that classic rock magazine out of that out of the UK, and I would go and pick it up at the like a go to Barnes and Noble and buy it and read it. And I've I stopped doing that a while ago. I'll still every once in a while I go, ooh, I need to go pick it up, but I just don't I just don't read it anymore. And it's just like a weird, and I love the reviews, and I'd go there and find different stuff, and I don't know. I feel like I should start reading it again, but I felt like I got a few like issues and then didn't like they didn't get read like I wanted them to, you know.
SPEAKER_00Oh I'll say I was for the longest time reading and I got it, I think it's quarterly. Um I think it's quarterly. Um The Big Takeover, Jack Rabbit. I I was reading that. You know the reason I stopped I stopped getting it is because my eyesights, you know, I got LASIK and it started started to fail me again. And I just read magazine. I haven't I haven't bought readers. I just I I need to get I need to get my uh LASIK touched up, my eyes touched up. Um because I want to read it and it's a lot. I mean, look, his end of year list was insane. It was absolutely insane. So I don't know, man. I mean, I think I hate to say this because I'm just so anti-social media, but I guess YouTube is a form of social media in some some regards. The whole influencer being kind of a tastemaker of sorts, I don't have a problem with that in YouTube at all. I I mean I I understand a music journalist take on like, man, I went to school for this and I've studied for this, but I've always felt like you don't have to be that well read and that well written to appreciate music. So sometimes I want you to get past like some of the reviews on Pitchfork are hilarious because I think they just do everything they can to throw out as many words as that you don't know. It's like God, I you know, by the end of the review, you're like, I think I looked up eight words in the dictionary just to understand what he said. Just to see what right, just to see what he said. Exactly. Um so I'm not gonna say I trust creators over publications per se. It just happens to be what I'm following now, you know, because it's entertaining to me. It's entertaining to see what the lead singer of Gogol Bordello puts in his bag, or what and uh in some aspects it's made me follow bands and check them out because I've been like, who are these you know, 22-year-old uh female musicians that I've never heard of that are bringing out stuff from 1960s that I've never heard of? Like if they know more uh about 1967 than I do and they're digging deeper, like what does their music sound like? So I don't know. I don't think it's necessarily replaced music journalism as much as it's providing a to me a I don't know, maybe a more creative outlet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean I don't know, I just don't uh yeah. I mean, look you look something like I look at like all music and look at their reviews, but I don't like put everything into their reviews, you know. I le use it as like a starting point, you know. So I don't know, I'm not reading interviews with bands or things like maybe I used to do or reading like about bands. I mean maybe I I think I want to discover new bands. So I'm not interested in like picking up a copy of something and reading a story about I don't know, Errol Smith. I mean like, yeah, I don't need to, that's not what I'm interested in. I'm interested in I don't know.
SPEAKER_00So for you, some of the books that Sean's talked about in the past that he's gotten, those don't are those not of interest to you? Well, I'll I'll say the two the one book that he and I agreed on here recently that we both read that I literally read it in two or three days at the beach, hard to handle. Steve Steve Gorman and and uh Stephen Haydn uh co-wrote that about of course the Black Crows. Amazing read. Do you like those type of things?
SPEAKER_01Yes, I like books. I guess I don't want to read I read that as well, and that's a great that's that's a great book. Makes you cool. There's parts makes like it doesn't make a lot of them look really good, but anyways, you're like you're like, man, some of these guys were assholes. But uh but uh I know it's one guy's writing it, but right, but yeah, I like books like that. Like I just I read uh that's probably uh that's the last one I read. I read Hard to Handle, which was really good. I also just read the Grace Slick article that she wrote, which was which was it was it was kind of cool. It was good.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it wasn't she's awesome, man. She's cool. Yeah, she's seen she's seen the good, the bad, and the ugly, right?
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, she's she'll she's funny. She doesn't, you know she's cool as hell, man.
SPEAKER_00She's just I've seen her in interviews, she's still as cool as she's ever been.
SPEAKER_01Right. She doesn't like make you know, she doesn't make believe that everything she was perfect or you know, she'll warts and all, you know, type of thing. Like she'll tell the stories about you know when they everything wasn't wonderful all the time. But yeah. Yeah. But no, I like books. I'll read a book like that, or I like music books in general, but I just can't find I don't read a bunch of like stories, you know. I'm not gett reading, I don't know, maybe other stuff in I don't know. Like a Rolling Stone or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. I guess maybe the reviews are my favorite part of it, probably.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I you know, I've never really the reviews are always what what drove me to those magazines. I very rarely dove into I mean there were some. That's what I liked about um the big takeover is his those stories or these back lines, they for one, they seem to be pretty brief. They didn't get into like, you know, if you're on the cover of Rolling Stone, I mean you got a 20-page spread or something, and it's just like I'm either gonna read a book or I like short stories in a magazine.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00If I read a long story and read a book, right? Exactly. Exactly. So I guess that was my my problem with it. But that's like I remember like reading the newspaper.
SPEAKER_01Like reading the newspaper, you know, when you read the old days when there was a newspaper, you know, read the newspaper and you're reading a story on the front, and then you it's continued like a few pages in, and you open to where it continued, and it's like, oh, it's like the whole page, you're like, dude, I don't want I don't, that's I'm not I'm not committed enough to read that whole like you know, it's too long.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's worth the chase. So and some of these reviews, man, I'm telling you, get to the point. Just get to the point. Like, I am one that likes to tell connection stories of how that music connects with my life a lot. But if I'm writing something down, I just get to the point. You know, I'm just like three paragraphs in and out. And when I if I start on the on a website, if I have to scroll more than twice, I then I'm done.
SPEAKER_01But we want everyone to do, you know, like if I that's what's that's why you know I would buy a magazine, and that's you know, to try to discuss like not just to like read about the bands or whatever that I like, but more so to discover something or to get turned onto something, right? So I know we're not playing we're not playing uh a bunch of tracks like hey, listen to this album and play a song, or listen to this and play a song, or whatever. You know, I know like Rick Miato does some of that stuff with another another great thing on YouTube, right? His stuff. Uh right. But if someone like if someone listens right now and goes out and just says, oh, this I'm gonna try that Pescado Rabbioso album just because they spoke so highly of it, and they go, oh my god, they're turned on to it, boom, that's that's the that's that's it right there. That's the that's the goal.
SPEAKER_00I gotta say, anytime I would read a go to reviews, not I mean honestly, probably nine times out of ten, I didn't care what the review was. I didn't care. Right. I didn't care if they said this album sucks, if they said, well, this sounds a little bit like Sabbath meets whatever. I'm got I'm gonna listen to it and I'll make my own determination order. I literally, I do not care if Pitchfork or Rolling Stone or Paste or anybody gives something a negative review or gives a positive review, you know. Right. Uh I but if you tell me a reference point and you give me something new, I'll go check it out. And I think that's what we've always done. So hopefully we can give people the same perspective here. Like I said, Pescado Rabbioso is a prime example. Go check out Ophege. Baden Powell, right?
SPEAKER_01Check that out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, good go check it out. Tell us what you think. Uh give us some uh other recommendations of what you think from 1973. By the way, 1973 being my birth year. Precious to me. Yeah, man, absolutely. So was happy to see that pop up. Happy to give uh Baden some uh some love. Uh hit us up via email at schizomusicpod at gmail.com. We look forward to hearing from you.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Give us an idea, tell us something what you like, turn us on to something, anything. We'll talk about, you know, share some things for sure.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. All right, guys. Well, thanks so much for checking in. Um till next time. Take care.
SPEAKER_01Take it easy.