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S6 – Ep 17 | Streaming-Only Releases, Fancy Burgers, Ice Baths & 2016 Hidden Gems

Craig Vennes & Kevin Glubke Season 6 Episode 17

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Craig and Kevin jump into 2016 this week with two albums that couldn’t be more different in style, but both leave a lasting impression.

Craig spotlights The Party by Andy Shauf, a beautifully crafted indie-folk record filled with intimate storytelling, subtle arrangements, and late-night atmosphere. Kevin counters with The Last Days of Oakland by Fantastic Negrito, a powerful and genre-blending release packed with grit, soul, funk, and social commentary.

From there, Craig opens up the ever-growing GPT-powered vault of Dig It or Dump It topics, putting Kevin on the spot with rapid-fire reactions to a mix of music industry trends, modern habits, and everyday debates. As always, a few answers spark some unexpected conversation along the way.

From intimate indie songwriting to explosive blues-funk energy — this episode covers a wide range of sounds and opinions.

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SPEAKER_01

Schizophrenic Music is a signal syndicate production. Hello and welcome to Scripture Frontier Music. This is Kevin, and I am joined by Craig. What's up? We are going to talk some music, talk some album. I believe we're going uh what 2016 this time around, and uh maybe have a beverage and talk some other things for sure. I've got a beverage. I have one as well.

SPEAKER_00

What do you have?

SPEAKER_01

Kind of traditional. We usually don't drink very much, but it's tradition. We're gonna keep it going. I have uh local, well, somewhat local. It even says local IPA on the bottom.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, depending on what you are, that might not be relevant, right?

SPEAKER_01

But it's that's a great brewer. We talked about these guys, and I think I've shared at least one or two, but it's one of those that's you know, it's locale, but it's uh terrapin recreation. I love that beer, man.

SPEAKER_00

That's their that's their session. They were doing one of the first session beers before session beers were session beers. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

What is this uh uh? What's the where are they at? 4.2.

SPEAKER_00

I mean that's you know, that's a good nice this is gonna crack you up, uh, just because of I I have all these fall beers, fall of winter beers in my fridge. Uh been kind of shelving stuff. So you got a nice yeah. So I mean this is I mean, this is all good stuff, but it's you know, it's not that time of year, but I have an elated winter IPA.

SPEAKER_01

Winter IPA.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm gonna go with that because I don't have anything else alcoholic in the fridge right now. Uh it's all it's all fall stuff and winter stuff. So anyway. All right. Uh you want to count us down?

SPEAKER_01

Three, two, one. There you go. And I got a terriping glass, so this is what, like I said, I think I did it the other day.

SPEAKER_00

I need some new light, I needed some new barware, dude. I don't have a lot of.

SPEAKER_01

I have I don't have that much. I do have a lot, but not I don't have specific to the brewery. And my wife's like, why do you need so many glasses? And I I yeah, I admit probably we don't need that many. Got some really cool glasses that I need to use, like little, like you know, cordial glasses. It's a different stuff, you know, but I'd never, you know. I uh nice brandy snifter. I don't want to sit around drinking brandy, you know, at it.

SPEAKER_00

It reminds me of uh what is it, uh Frasier sipping on brandy. Uh I've got a uh scofflaw glass, but cheers, man. Cheers. Yeah, we're on we're to the point where it's like um you know you you can only bring in a new one if uh if you crack an old one, basically. The shelf is full. So all right, Kevin, what we got?

SPEAKER_01

Wanna do the uh album? Wanna do uh 20 2016, right? All right, I'll have to pick one. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Rapid fire, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

Oh wait, wait. I think I started last time, didn't I? I think it's you I think you get to go this time. You did, man.

SPEAKER_00

Um thank you kindly. 2016. There was a ton of stuff. Um there was uh an album from one Steve Gunn that I almost picked. Way out weather is amazing. Uh it was my entry point to him, too, but this one was like super special. Um, I like this guy on the same level as I like Steve Gunn, singer-songwriter. Uh, and this album was just, I'd never heard of the guy, didn't even know how to pronounce his last name. Now I know. Uh, this is uh a thematic album. It's called The Party, and it's one Andy Shaw. This album absolutely floored me from the very get-go of the magician uh to kick off the album. I was like, wow, like this guy's very Beatlesque, very kaleidoscopic, very oh, it's just so good. Uh, he's Nova Scotian, so he does have that accent. It comes out. I have a friend of mine, um a friend of mine from college that's like, oh yeah, I just can't stand his voice. And I'm like, it only comes out periodically. I don't know what your problem is, but uh it bothered him, so whatever. But that's cool. We all have our thing. Um, I love this guy. I think he's a fantastic uh writer. He's also uh got a project called Fox Warren. They put out a newer album. Fox Warren made my uh top 20 last year. Good stuff. Uh Andy Schaff's every one of his albums from this point forward all have made my uh my top 20, sometimes top 10, top 15. He's just consistently an amazing, amazing songwriter. Um incredible lyricist. He really, he really uh puts a lot into his lyrics. Uh very witty. Uh, like I said, this is very themed, so it is themed around being at a party. It's like basically being at a party and observing everybody else at that party, and his his lyrics are those observances. It is awesome. It really is. Was this his first album? This is his fourth album, actually. It's kind of like Vetiver, the last episode. That was his 2016. That was his fourth album, too. I haven't listened to the one, the bearer of bad news, uh, the bearer of good news. Uh, the one before this is really good, but this album is just man, uh, I just everything about it I love uh because it's the perfect blend of melancholy and beatle-esque. Uh, he just nails it. He absolutely nails it. He's just got a really cool uh mood to him. So yeah, check out Andy Schaff. Can't go wrong with some Andy Schaaf.

SPEAKER_01

You definitely you brought him to my attention, and I've listened to pretty much just in most of his stuff, I think, but I need to like revisit and dive in deeper and like that. Fox Warren is excellent too. But uh yeah, you need to listen to his stuff more often because I couldn't like push play and tell you about like name an album or a song and you know, right now, but so but yeah, good stuff for sure. I know you've he's made the top of your list or towards the top a couple times, you know, in the last you know, few years.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he's consistently right in that same realm. This is at this, I think it's his best, but his last I don't know, man. The the last album he put out, so album he put out called Norm, that's excellent. I mean, seriously, I everything's on par with this, but this has a special spot because this was at a point where I was like staying up late. My wife worked late on Fridays, Fridays were when albums were released, and I'm just diving in to find new stuff, and I found this and I'm like, holy crap! Like after the magician, I said, I don't need to listen to samples of anything else, I'm just buying it. So, yeah. What about you? What about 2016 for Kevin?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, see, so and I wish I could find the original review, but maybe I can. Nope, I can't. But uh, so 2016. So this is and you did this a couple times because we almost did it like a week or two ago. And I just, you know, we I've talked about this guy, and maybe, you know, I maybe I think that he, you know, this person. So I talked about this guy. This guy has released numerous albums now, like four albums, and they always make the he always make my end of the year list. And this album right here was the album that started it for me. And I think he's one of those artists that everyone should know about, and everyone should, but for some reason, it just I don't know, he he's not on the radio, he's not in pop, you know, culture type of thing. But this is so I'm gonna go here, I'm going there because I gotta go that way. So I'm gonna start reading, and uh, you know, like I always do, I'm not gonna say the name right off the bat, but so it goes by a different name. We've talked about him, but his real name, and forgive me, because it's I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right or not, but his name is Xavier Amin Fripalez. He's from uh New Orleans area, I believe originally, but his music is like blues, RB, roots. Anyways, in 2016, he released this album right here, and it won the Grammy Award for Best Contemporary Blues Album. You want a Grammy, people should know who you are, right? In 2019, his next album won the same Grammy, the contemporary Best Contemporary Blues album, in 2019 at the 61st Grammy Awards. A year later, his next album once again won Best Contemporary Blues album for the 63rd Grammy Awards. So he's won three Grammys for Best Contemporary Blues Album. But if you walked up to average Joe or Jane on the street and said, hey, they look and mention this person's name, they'd say, I have absolutely positive no clue what you're talking about. What you're talking about. Yep. Right? And he continues to release excellent stuff. He did like a more pared-down album in 2024. I think he's released something right around now. But uh but the album is the artist is Fantastic Negrito, and the album is called The Last Days of Oakland. And it's like it's just good RB blue soul, excellent. I mean, I don't want to say, I mean, it sounds nothing like Prince, but people compare him to kind of like how he's kind of all over the place to Prince, but it's just excellent. He's released nothing bad. I will sing Fantastic De Gritos praises forever. So everybody should know about him. He's won three Grammys, probably going on to win more, but it's like not a, you know, nope, I guess, you know, they don't announce the best blues album on the primetime Grammy Awards, you know. It's one of those things that they do a you know beforehand and things like that. So, you know, it's not getting the airplay that other stuff is getting, but highly, highly recommend. If you don't know Fantastic Negrito, start here, start anywhere. I guess it's one before this or earlier. But anything since this, please don't be dead. Uh have you lost your mind yet? Son of a broken man, all excellent, excellent, excellent stuff.

SPEAKER_00

I am astounded that this is an artist that has three Grammys, nobody knows about him. It doesn't get announced, and to me, it's just a shame in general that blues is not is not announced, right? I can understand like there's certain things when it comes to like Oscars and when it comes to like stage production or whatever. I mean, there's so many different awards, I get that, but this is a major, major genre in music. Whether it's jazz, whether it's blues, I I get it, it's all about pop, hip hop, country, rock, but the fact that they wouldn't soul RB, I mean a lot of that gets molded together. And the thing is too, he's more, he's so much more than blues. He is so much more than blues. Like when you turn me, I think this is the album Last Days of Vocaline is the album that you turn me on to him, and I'm like, it's bluesy, but it's funky. It's not I wouldn't even call it blues, it's more right. Like he's got he's got some grit to him, man. His voice is awesome. Uh Kevin's right. Uh, he does not have a bad album. Um I just it's astonishing to me that this guy has three Grammys, and and and credit to that, credit to him, and um, you know, the people for people that pay attention to that's great, but I just don't understand how we don't I don't understand how we don't know about it.

SPEAKER_01

So exactly criminal.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely uh was a band, small band called C Ray, was playing at the Earl or the Echo, I think it was Echo Lounge, and C Ray opened up for ambulance LTD. And Ambulance was great. They were fake, they were they were fantastic, but C-Ray was just different, man. There was something about him. I I I bought their CD on the spot. I just remember just totally being captivated by the the guy looked like he was all of it, 17, 18 years old, but he had a voice like a mature 30-year-old. It was just so and my buddy with me, he's like, Who is this band? I was like, I don't know, but we're buying the we're buying the album for sure. Uh so that's one. Uh another one, the opening act for uh Secret Machines was this band called Heliosequence. I've talked about them on a couple of I I saw them open up for the church after you know, two or three albums after the fact, but I just remember seeing them and just thinking, God man, so much energy. The guy he ended up uh blowing out his vocals, had to have vocal surgery, so he never sounded like I think it's called Love and Distance was the name of the album. So they didn't put out an album that was this intense. His drummer was the same that played drums for Modest Mouse. Uh super, super cool. Uh, so that was that was awesome. Um, so that's two. Who else have I seen as an opening act that I was just like, ah man.

SPEAKER_01

Um doesn't have to be a discovery, somebody that was like just was excellent.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I've seen a lot of really good opening acts for metal shows, right? Um I I I didn't discover them, but seeing Bonham open up for the cult was really cool. Uh, this is John Bonham's band plays drums, obviously. Or Jason, Jason Bonham, John Bonham's son, Jason. Uh and I remember hearing the song on the radio, I'm like, eh, it's alright.

SPEAKER_01

But they're they're really good a lot. Disregard for timekeeping album. There's a what was that?

SPEAKER_00

Disregard of time keeping, yeah. I forgot I forgot about that album. Uh I ended up buying the album. It's one of those bands that album's not gonna do it justice. They were much better live. Much, much better live. So that was a that was a pleasant surprise. Um let's think. I've seen quite a few opening acts that were a surprise. I'm trying to think of most of them are in that aughts area. I mean, if I'm being honest, this wasn't as this wasn't a huge surprise because I went to see them, but I'm gonna put Matt Pond PA there uh opening up for Keen. Even though I went there for Matt Matt Pond. Uh but Matt Pond was amazing. Now, Keen as a as a as the headliner was the biggest surprise because it was like I knew the single, but I was like, holy crap, they were good live. Um I'm gonna say okay, so the surprise could be a bad surprise, right? All right, here's one for you. This band opened up for I've got two more left. I've got two more. So uh this got me into this band, so I'm gonna go with a a pleasant surprise. Red Cross opening up, opening up for Lemon Heads, and this is on their album, Phase Shifter, and it's hands down my favorite Red Cross album. I love that album. Holy crap. That might be the best one because they the energy they came out with, and they came out with this just blisteringly sarcastic version of Smells Like Teen Spirit. Like they just it was just it was obnoxious, but it was so well done. And by the end of it, they were just smiling and they go, like, Sol and Jess, we love the song. We just, you know, and they went into just playing the entire album of Phase Shifter, just kicked ass. It was amazing. I I think they outplayed Lemonheads that night for sure. Worst surprise. Uh, I still remember this band. We made fun of them for years. This band called Big Chief opened up for the cult. So I'm going with the cult again. At um at the time it was the rock scene, I was Bucket Theater. Dude, it was horrendous. It was just it was so bad. I mean, they were just loud for the sake of being loud, and they were so into it, and they were so into it that they you realize that they weren't prepared for who they to prepare playing in front of that many people. It's just like if every note could have been missed, it was missed. It was just bad, it was horrible. Uh, which made it extremely entertaining. Uh, and I'll give you uh a sixth, I'll give you a bonus. This this will crack you up. I don't know if you remember the real world. Do you remember the very first season of the real world? So Andre. I said, I my girlfriend and I loved Rain Dance. She loved Andre. Every girl, every girl of that age loved Andre because he was beautiful. Uh, Andre's band, Rain Dance. I'm telling you, Problem Factory.

SPEAKER_01

You get you you share, uh, you shared that with me. It's a good album. Great album.

SPEAKER_00

The opening act for that, this is what made it so funny. They were so bad. They were it was a local band, play the masquerade. The drummer, uh, he had a hole in it in the crotch of his pants. And I swear to God, I was there with Daphne, my girlfriend at the time, and her friend Wendy, and they're both like, I swear to God, we can see his like they can see it like juggling back and forth. And he got so into it because they're staring at him. They're like, like, I mean, that's definitely, that's definitely that. That's definitely his his dick, right? He just completely lost grip of his drumstick and flung it right at us. Like, split the three of us, like just right down the middle. I was like, okay, so he's flashing us and he's throwing drumsticks at us. I can't tell you who the name of the band was, but they were comically bad. So two comically bad ones and four good ones on the fly. That's what I can think of.

SPEAKER_01

All right, that's gun to your head. Real quick. Not well, sorry, quick.

SPEAKER_00

Not too bad. I love it. I love the gun to your head thing. You could have asked me what my top five Elvis Costello songs again were. And they would have been. Yeah, for sure. All right, I'm gonna do a quick uh dig it or dump it for Kevin here. And I like I said, I'm gonna run through, I've got different categories, so I'm gonna run. Let's go for some uh cars and lifestyle. Yeah, here we go. Uh Kevin, dig it or dump it. Huge trucks as daily drivers. Huge nah, I gotta dump it. Dump it. Agree. All right, let's get back into some music stuff. Here we go. Kevin, crowd noise added to studio recordings. Studio. No, I gotta dump that. Agreed. Real quick, I love this, man. Rapid fire. Okay. Um let's do let's go for some food here. Uh Kevin, dig it or dump it. Fancy burgers.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I like a nice fancy burger. I'll I'll dig a fancy burger. I mean, yeah, like the classics, but something that they're putting, like, I don't know, fried onions and bake fried bacon. Well, you know, different stuff on there. Yes, I'll dig it in.

SPEAKER_00

What's your go to burger place?

SPEAKER_01

You know, that's a good question. Because there's been places That are really good, and then they have moved on. I don't know, this place Lucky's in Roswell. It's a good they have some good, some really good burgers.

SPEAKER_00

Lucky's burgers, burgers and brew? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I like Lucky's. What's your what's your take on Five Guys? We just talked about this the other day. I like Five Guys. I think Five Guys is excellent, but it's become so expensive that it's crazy going to Five Guys. You drop like 50 buc for like you know a burger. I mean, it's just it's just insane.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I agree. I I will say this like, have you been to In N Out?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I think Five Guys blows In N Out out of the water.

SPEAKER_01

It's been years since I've been to In N Out, but you think I mean they're Five Guys is good burgers.

SPEAKER_00

I think Five Guys is great. I mean, and you're right though. I mean, you shouldn't for a standard for a standard burger that doesn't have Wagyu beef and doesn't have I'm not spending 15 bucks on a burger. It's just not worth it. Right.

SPEAKER_01

And it's not like a it's not a sit-down restaurant where you're going to grab a burger. I mean you're going, you're standing in line ordering. Totally agree. Love the fries, everything, but yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Kevin Diggett or Dump it, dessert before the meal. Nah, I don't do that. No, I gotta do that. How are you on desserts in general? Because as I've gotten older, I just don't need them.

SPEAKER_01

We don't really have dessert very often unless we're going out for like a for the most part, like a ice cream. I won't say like a more fancier meal or a special occasion meal where we're we'll split a dessert probably.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the fancier stuff, like like when we go to the beach, which we're gonna do here in a couple of days, uh yeah, we get key line pie. Heck yeah, we get key line pie. It's good stuff. Um, but as a whole, like for us, we have more dessert here, and a dessert is like, do you want a cookie? That's it. One cookie, that's it. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Ice cream.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, maybe some ice cream for sure. You go to Brewster's, that's a thing. Sure.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Like we I have a hard time not getting if we're if we go out for Italian, getting uh tiramisu, because we just my wife loves tiramisu, and it's always like uh we're trying it everywhere, yeah. You know, and that's good. Or not that we get it all the time, or the other place you're going somewhere and they have trace lecces, you're like, that's that's odd.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, so that's leches ice cream. We will go for a trace leche.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

All right, Kevin. Go back to some music here. Um artists that only release their albums on streaming, dig it or dumb it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna dump that. I'm gonna have the opportunity to buy it. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

I totally agree. Like, streaming's not the only thing. Like, so I think Tom was the one that was asking us, you guys still buy music? And I'm like, yeah, I I still have stuff in my collection. I'm not as bad about it now. The only reason I'm not about as bad about it is I've been cheap and I haven't bought a new external hard drive because mine crashed on me. But before, I would add stuff on Apple, but I would never keep the added download from Apple. I would always go buy it and add it to my collection. Man, I'm at it, and I put it on my external hard drive as a backup. So I agree. Um Kevin Diggitter dump it. Releasing singles for a year before the album drops. No, dump it, dump it, dump it, dump it.

SPEAKER_01

That's one thing to tease a little bit, like a month or two beforehand. But you see, someone like something came out, and I'm like, and you look at when it's when an album's coming out, it's like that's like nine months away. Like, why are you getting why you give me a single and the album's not coming out until November? You know, it's like, come on.

SPEAKER_00

And what gets me is they'll tease it that at least they've changed it.

SPEAKER_01

It's obviously the music it's obvious that the album's done. Right. Right. I mean, you're not right.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it has to be has to be done, or at least primarily done. It used to be you would double buy stuff. Because like you would they would release a couple of singles, and people would people would buy it, and then they would release the album, and the track would be separate. At least now it's different now. Like you can pre-order the album and you get the singles as they get released. I like that. Failure did that with their new album. It's like I was listening to two or three tracks, and then all of a sudden, boom, the whole thing came up. His Golden Messenger, his new album came out. Same thing. That I'm that I'm fine with. It's good stuff. Uh, he never fails. But yeah, I mean, a year, come on. We we don't need that kind of teasing because you could tease the entire time, and I'll by the time the album's released, I've listened to every song on this 10 times. Right. All right, let's go back to some let's go to some TV and movies. Um, Kevin, dig it or dump it, background TV. So you're not really fully paying attention to the show.

SPEAKER_01

I can't do that. Can't either. I have an inability to not pay attention to what's on. I I my family gets annoyed because I'll be we'll be watching something, then they'll someone will start talking, and then I'll be like, I'll rewind it because I just missed, I get I gotta be, I'm I'm locked in. If I missed it, I gotta like, what do they just say? I gotta rewind it and start and get back.

SPEAKER_00

My wife can sit there and play games the entire time. Yes, and she'll oh, what just happened? And I'm like, well, this this and not she's not that bad. She's not that bad. She normally gets to her phone. I'm like, are you are you how she'll take she'll take stock of like oh she'll look up and go, okay, that's this voice, that's this voice. She she does a good job of it, but sometimes she'll just lose track, and I'm like, because you got on an email thread, or your friends were texting you, or you got on Facebook, or whatever, and I'm like, you know, I'm not gonna explain this again. I've been paying attention this entire time. Now, granted, right when she's watching her stuff, sometimes I'll play games and whatever, but that's I'm not yeah, I'm not really paying attention, and I'm not sometimes I don't even care. Or, you know, we've watched every episode of NCIS at least five times. At least I mean we love NCI, we watch it over and over and over again. That's our favorite show. So for that, it's like, oh, I know what Torres is gonna do. I know what Gibbs is gonna do, you know. I'm fine with that. And even if I don't know, I've seen this a billion times. So all right, here we go. Kevin. Oh, this is this is so funny. Uh Kevin, dig it or dump it. Driving with no music. He's like, are you really asking me this?

SPEAKER_01

What do people do that? Dump it.

SPEAKER_00

I can know it's hard for me to do much of anything in silence. Especially driving. I can't. I mean, I at least have a podcast. Driving is I have to I have to have something.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Like, there is something about like on a Friday morning having like my podcast that I listen to, and sometimes I'm not gonna lie, I'm until I listen to our podcast. Uh I'll do that if I'm on a road trip or something, but I mean, I always have music going. I I'm I usually already have in my mind of it's gonna take me an hour, hour and a half to get there. I have time to listen to this album. So yeah, for sure. I when that popped up, I'm like, the hell, dude. Uh, all right. Take it or dump it, Kevin. Driving barefoot.

SPEAKER_01

No, can't you can't do it? Dump it. I don't do it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't love it. Um, but at the beach, sometimes I'll do it. It just depends.

SPEAKER_01

I'll have maybe like sandals flip-flops, but not barefoot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, sometimes I'll take the flip-flops off. I'm just like, eh, just to kind of air them out and stuff. It's not my favorite. I'm not gonna totally dump it, but I can understand why you would dump it. Uh, all right, Kevin, I don't know how you feel about this. I don't even know how I feel about it because I don't know if I've ever done it before, but dig it or dump it, doom scrolling. What is Doom Scrolling?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, just constantly just going, you know, getting in there and just, you know, not you're so into it you're out of it. Yeah, you get lost, right?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if I've ever done that.

SPEAKER_01

It's a terrible thing, so I mean, not terrible, but I you know what I'm saying, but it's like yeah, you gotta do because like it's one of those things where you get lost in the uh like let's say the act of spending an excessive amount of time watching short form content or watching large quantities of user-generated content or news, particularly negative news on the web or social media. So you just go like you go for one, next thing you know, you get another one, go to the next one, go to the next one, go to the next one, and then pretty soon you sp you've spent like 45 minutes and you've accomplished nothing, and you you don't realize you've wasted your last 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_00

Insta doom, I get that. Okay, yeah, that's a definite negative. But some people love it, they love that what's next recommended clickbait down below it. No, not me. All right, Kevin. Dig it or dump it, critics determining an album's legacy.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-mm. I know. I mean, I look to critic, excuse me, it's like recommendation, maybe, but no, you know, happens too much where it's like, oh, this is the greatest, or this is the you know, it's like, no. There's there are a lot of our bands, I've say dump it for sure. There's a lot of the bands that we love that are probably favorite album by that artist is not their most popular album, or not the one that's critically acclaimed, things like that. So it's like, yeah, it's kind of you know some artists I I appreciate a critic, but sometimes they're just you know I use critics as more of a recommendation rather than a this is the greatest thing, or so on and so forth.

SPEAKER_00

Same here. Some artists have gone as far as to say, like, you've killed my career. You know, you have so much influence, and you're one your negative review. And then if they have a like, there's certain bands I mentioned Matt Pompier earlier with the uh concerts. Never been reviewed well on pitchfork, ever. And I I don't get it, like I don't get the negative, I can understand, I could even understand if you were just like eh, I'm gonna say it again, six seven. You're in that kind of I can understand you can say this is you know a perfectly pleasant album, it's middle of the road. I can understand that, but they're like 2.5, 3.6, and I'm like, wow. Right. To the point where an artist like that's like, now that's not my audience. They're not gonna listen because they you're so influenced by them. So I totally get it. Um all right, Kevin. Couple more. Food. Let's go to food. Dig it or dump it, ordering the same thing every time.

SPEAKER_01

It's tough sometimes. It's all right, not to do that, right? But you gotta expand. I mean, there's certain places like, oh, I gotta order that. That's what I get at this place. But we purpose I purposely go and like order something different because I'm like, ooh, I get this every time, so I gotta get something different, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that's situational.

SPEAKER_01

There's certain places like certain places that is the thing you need to get, right? But then there's things like, you know, oh, I get chicken primer every time I go there. Let me get something different, right? You know, all right.

SPEAKER_00

So think about the time that you were here, you visited me, and we went to a place called Bitter Alibi, and we got the wonton nachos. Yes, you can't not get that artifact. That shit is like you have to get it because it's just there's nothing for one, there's nothing else on the menu that's that distinct, and two, you're just not gonna get anything like that anyway. Right. It's just it, yeah. Love it. All right, let me see if I can find a couple more here and we'll we'll uh we'll we'll cap things off. We'll go with a wild card here. Uh dig it or dump it, ice baths.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I don't do the bath so much, but I'll have to dig it. I have I only take cold showers very rarely, but I always do I take a warm, hot one, but I I do like it. It makes it quicker for one thing because you're in there. But I started doing, I read an article about you know whatever blood all that kind of stuff and recovery and yada yada yada. So I take cold showers.

SPEAKER_00

I like a good hot shower, I'm not gonna lie, but uh yeah, everyone's fine. Ice bath is I've I've done it before, it's pretty invigorating.

SPEAKER_01

I mean a cold plunge is like a wound.

SPEAKER_00

It's a shock to the system. Like how how long can we last? It's it's nice. Yeah, it's nice. Um, all right. Last one. All right, Kevin dig it or dump it. People who clap along at concerts.

SPEAKER_01

Sometimes you're supposed to, right? Sometimes they want you to. But if they didn't, if they maybe if the band or the artist did not encourage it, then I say no. Right. Dump it. But if the band like goes like hey, and then then then you know, join in.

SPEAKER_00

That's like uh there's a there's a thing. I don't even it's a song apparently, but they play segments of it at baseball games. I hear it at the tech game all the time. I can make your hands clap. Yeah, I love that. I think it's cool. You know, everybody clap everybody clap your hands. You know, I I love that stuff, you know, but I'm thinking of I'm thinking of a concert that we attended where I'm trying to think of who it was. Was I think it was pretty much every act, but the the girl in front in the in the front of the audience was just way too exuberant about everything, and she would get up there and clap and stuff, and it's like you're not even clapping to the beat, like you're such a to the right, right, right. Yeah, we went to see the Hawthorns, and it was the opening act, and even she was like, Wow, you're really enthusiastic. And Kevin's like, I want her to go away.

SPEAKER_01

Right, the uh that uh yeah, that what were they called? That was they're a good band.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, all of it, uh yeah, it was so the Hawthorns were second, and the uh the main headlining act, which is a local act, can't think of their name, but yeah, even they were just like and at that point she was pushed back because their fans came in. I was like, Thank God. Um okay, so we've rambled enough here. We've we've done a good bit. Uh thank you so much for joining us as always. Certainly. Um, 2016 was our album of this week. Tell us what you think. Uh 2016, any year, any recommendation.

SPEAKER_01

Schizzle MusicPod at gmail.com. Let us know what you think. Ask us a question, give us a suggestion. And uh it's good to know we're past the halfway. I mean, we're we past the halfway point. Feels like we should be much past much further along, but that's cool. We got more to do.

SPEAKER_00

We have quite a few left to go. We've been in the 2000s for a while. I'm I'm looking forward to getting back into the 70s, eighties, and nineties. But uh, yeah, thanks so much for joining in. Uh, we appreciate you. And until next time, take care.

SPEAKER_01

All right, take it easy.