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S6 – Ep 18 | 2004: The Year It All Started - Album Picks & the Evolution of the Music Industry
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This week, Craig and Kevin revisit 2004, a year that holds special significance for both hosts and marked the beginning of a friendship built around a shared love of music.
For their album picks, Craig spotlights LP by Ambulance LTD, a shimmering indie-rock release filled with memorable hooks, layered guitars, and the kind of songs that seemed tailor-made for the era. Kevin counters with Exhibit A by The Features, an energetic and underrated record that blends sharp songwriting with plenty of Southern-rock swagger.
Along the way, the conversation naturally drifts into memories of 2004 itself—a pivotal year in music and culture—and reflects on how much has changed since then, from the way we discover music to the way we listen to it.
Whether you're revisiting the mid-2000s or discovering these albums for the first time, this episode is packed with nostalgia, hidden gems, and plenty of music discussion.
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SPEAKER_03Well, hello, welcome into schizophrenic music. My name is Craig. I'm here with my buddy Kevin. Hello. And this is a this is a pivotal pivotal. That's not a word. It's a pivotal episode. There's a reason why. So if you're joining us for the first time, welcome in. If you're a longtime listener, of course, welcome in. We appreciate you. We appreciate you either way. Why is it pivotal? I'll tell you why. So what is that? We have been doing a exploration of albums, underrated or overlooked, or both, from 1960 to present, basically, or the previous year. This year that popped up is 2004. Why is that pivotal? That's when I opened up my record store, and that's how Kevin and I know each other.
SPEAKER_01This is correct. This is true.
SPEAKER_03So this is gonna be a fun episode. We're gonna wing it with a couple things. We're of course gonna focus in on an album from 2004. But um in tradition, as we normally as we normally kick things off, I got a frosty beverage. I'm gonna ask Kevin what you got.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think I've probably had this here before. It's what it's I don't know, gets to be a go-to sometimes. But uh beer from Roswell, Georgia, Gate City Citrus Maximus.
SPEAKER_03I'm going Georgia too, man. Citrus Max oh, by the way, Citrus Maximus is an excellent beer. Wish we had some Gate City out here. Never see Gate City here in the state of Tennessee. Sorry, when I when I travel, I'll pick it up. Uh picked this up in Florida though. I saw a 12-pack of it. I thought, you know, this sounds good on the beach. That's where we just came from. And that is Sweetwater's going coastal.
SPEAKER_01Going coastal. They've changed the Kansas up. They're looking, yeah.
SPEAKER_03They're looking uh, I don't know, I'm not gonna say fancier, but they're definitely more streamlined, you know, a little bit more professional. But yeah, pineapple IPA, good stuff. All right, ready? Sure. Count us down. Three, two, one. Very nice, very nice. Today's one of those days I do have a gate city glass, so you know I'm well, so I was gonna go, I was gonna go like big since 2004. This is I think this is the year, at the very least, the year before Kevin and I met. I can't remember when Kevin came on, started working at Town Crier Music, but uh I was gonna kick it off with like a banger.
SPEAKER_02Um my favorite, one of my favorite movies is where it's located like that right here. That's idle hounds out easy.
SPEAKER_03Uh they have a killer, like hazy pal called Palapa. But we only we only have two left, and I promised Becca she could have last.
SPEAKER_01Alright, man. Cheers to you, brother. Cheers.
SPEAKER_03First off, let's talk about a couple of concerts we went to. Yes. Very, very different. Um, I'm gonna let Kevin go first because his is definitely bigger. Uh and he his show was just this past what Monday or Tuesday Tuesday, right? Tuesday. Tuesday, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think I've hit three, I mean, since we've talked last. I mean, we did we kind of we had a week there, it's just been crazy with just stuff traveling, different stuff going on, graduation, yada yada yada. But I had a few shows, I think, since we've last met, but the most recent that's something I'm trying to recover and not cough all the time either. Uh I went to see Triumph and April Wine on Tuesday. Triumph. Yeah. I always was a big Triumph fan back in the, you know, back in the 80s. I think I saw them at least twice, maybe three times back then.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01Just a good band. I mean, a good three-piece from Canada. They're a little bit different now. I mean, not I mean, so it was supposed to be all three members, but bass player Mike Levine has something wrong with his hand where he's unable to play, you know, and he doesn't want to play if he can't play well, and he you know, just can't do it, especially for long periods of time. But so Rick Emmett, Gilmore, guitarist, drummer, they both sing, uh, we're both there, but they do have some. I mean, hey, they're 72, 73 years old, but they have some, you know, replacement musicians or additional guys. But it's kind of cool because they're all I mean, they're pros, right? But so bass player came in, so basically they got uh three guys from Slash's band, and Phil X was the other guitar player. That's who Yeah. So the guys were, I mean, they were excellent. I mean, they were, you know, they helped you know sing and do different stuff, of course, play the bass and whatnot. And then, you know, one there's another drummer, and Gil would get out from behind the set, come up and sing, and they're or they'd drum two at a time, stuff like that. So, I mean, but they sounded excellent. I mean, they sounded really good. I guess Bill X used to play with Triumph like back in I don't want to say late 90s, early 2000s. Something he played with them for a couple years.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01So he had a history there, whatnot, and he's Canadian, I think. So that's cool. And uh, so I mean Triumph was excellent, an excellent show. They they brought it. Uh April Wine opened up, which I'd never seen April Wine before, and it's one of those. I don't want to. There's one member that there's no original members, but there's one member that was with him like in the 70s, 80s, took a break, then came back.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Lead singer, guitarist, or the main guy is no longer with us. He passed by like 2023, I think, something like that. So you know, but they got guys filled in. They were they I mean they sounded great, you know, but it's you know, this kind of not the original band, but hey, you know, good stuff, anyways. Cool. So excellent show.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you also went and see uh the crows, too, right?
SPEAKER_01Black Crows, that was they were they were that was an excellent show. They they brought it. And Whiskey Myers opened up. I was impressed by Whiskey Myers. They were pretty. They were they were they were solid. I had never seen them live. They were good. But Black Crows was, I mean, it was an excellent show. They set list wise, too. They brought it as far as you know, they change their set every night, so you don't ever know, you never know what you're gonna, never gonna know what never get you don't know what you're gonna see or hear.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01But they brought like I think they played nine, eight, nine songs from the first two albums, which I mean, really, you really do want that, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so that's killer. Yeah, definitely want to see them. Um yeah, I went to see uh Spur of the Moment, man. My wife has been wanting to go to this little venue in Chattanooga called the Wood Shop. Uh I'd never heard of it. Um, she'd mentioned it before, and she says, I I want to go there. This is where I want to go. And I was like, All right, cool, just pick a show. She she picked a show, and it's funny, we're driving back from the beach, and I'm playing the band that we're playing, and she goes, Oh, these guys are nice. Who is this? And I go, This is the band we're going to see when we get back from the beach. Glad you like them. Right. And she said, Oh, thank God. Because she just picked them on a whim. She saw the name, she saw the picture of them, she saw the write-up, and she's like, That sounds cool, cool. She just bought tickets, and so a couple friends of ours, uh local friends of ours, came with us, and it was a blast, man. There, um, she even said it point blank, she said, not all of our stuff is like traditional country. She said, I really like the name, the term Americana, because it really nails it, because that's our sound. I was like, awesome. So it's um Brother and the Haze. Uh it's a brother-sister duo, uh, okay, folky Americana, very traditional country at times. They were excellent, absolutely excellent. Just great. It's one of those shows, too, where maybe, I mean, this place is tiny, it's a little house. I would say maybe maybe 50, 60 people there. Okay. Um, sold out though. Good for them. That's awesome. Surprisingly enough, man, in a couple of weeks, Josh Rouse is playing there. Really?
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03I was like, man, how'd you get you guys got Josh Rouse? Uh, I think he's playing two or three shows that are all sold out. But man, they were great. Uh, the banter in between between the two of them, they just had such a good, like refreshing, just natural comedic rapport. Uh, pedal steel player, I talked to him after the show. He's from Chattanooga. So he leads singer, uh, the brother of Brother in the Haze. They both live in Chattanooga. She lives in Nashville. Okay. Um, talking to him and just like talking about his pedal steel playing. Because I I have to say, pedal steel is just one of those instruments, if it's done right, it'll just melt your heart. It's just so right. Uh, so chatted for him for a while. He was awesome. So we had a great time. I told Becca, I said, you know, for your first stab at just taking us out to a show on a whim, man, you nailed it.
SPEAKER_01So good stuff. Yeah, excellent.
SPEAKER_03Can't beat you can't beat live shows, folks. I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_01I mean, get out there.
SPEAKER_03I thought really hard about going to that Triumph show because uh Kevin and his buddy had an extra ticket, and I just couldn't swing at us back and forth from Atlanta. Just got back from the beat. I mean, I literally have been on the road for the like the last week and a half, right? Exhausted. Um, but you gotta see live shows, man. I'm telling you, I was just there's something about it. Yeah, I was tired going into it, and the minute that first note hit up, I just perked up. Immediately felt better.
SPEAKER_01So all right. See live music, definitely support the bands and small shows, big shows. I I prefer, I mean, these were a couple, I guess, bigger, bigger ones, but I like the small, I like I love the small shows, or uh get me a couple of those, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's I mean, you saw so you saw uh what Black Crows are at Verizon? Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01And then Ameris Bank, whatever, yeah. Yeah, Ameris. It was Verizon to meet right.
SPEAKER_03And then uh Triumph was at Chastain. Chastain, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And the week before was uh Dave Matthews banned at Ameris as well.
SPEAKER_03Wow. Yeah. You've been uh you've been pounding the pavement on the the con. I'm I'm way behind the times, man. I haven't I think I've only seen two shows this year so far, two or three.
SPEAKER_01We ended up buying some other they did that $30 ticket deal, you know, you just go on the lawn. We bought some things coming up the rest of the summer, a couple other shows this summer, but nice. And some of them are like, yeah, 30 bucks will, you know, some of them are like you they're not like oh, I need to go, but I'm like, oh that's cool. We'll go see uh whatever. One of them's like, oh, we're going to see Toto again, Toto and Christopher Cross with the romantics. I'm like, hey, you know, why not? 30 bucks, I'll go set online and enjoy that.
SPEAKER_03Who was it last time? Toto Christopher Cross, and then who was Men at Work. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01They were great, but it didn't, I don't, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Romantics could kind of fit a little bit better, I think.
SPEAKER_01But Minute Work, but all Christopher Cross is up in the middle now, so maybe he'll get a play. I mean, he's great. I he'll get to play a little bit longer, probably.
SPEAKER_03We were doing an over-under, I'd have to say, over for him because I think he's so underrated, such a great artist. I love Christopher Cross. That self-titled album, I'm telling you guys, is a banger.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's great.
SPEAKER_03Um, all right, 2004. Here we go. Four. Um the year I opened my store, I've been I've been working on that for four years. I stopped working in the music business to earn real money because I had to save up to buy to start the store. So I was working with my dad and uh making a good paycheck so I could afford all this stuff. So I was compiling all this inventory and stuff, and I finally launched in 2004. And man, I'm telling you, I am, and it's I don't know if it's just the timing or if it's just nostalgia or just you know when I open my store, but I feel like the music from 04, 05, and 06 is just so special to me at least. Right. Kevin, I think feels a little bit the same way too, because we just I mean, when you work in a store, you just absorb anything and everything that comes through it. Um, so I'm excited to hear yours. I think I know one that might be on your list. Um, I think, I think, but I'm not a hundred percent sure because 2004 is different because I don't think you and I were totally like, I think it was probably 2005 when you started. Right. So I think at that point we were like back and forth of like learning newer music and going back to stuff that we've been listening to for years and years. So you might have something on your list that's like you know, goes back to your your roots. But uh what was uh what was your selection for 2004?
SPEAKER_01So looking through, I mean, looking through 2004, there obviously there's a there's a couple albums that I could have picked, and I won't, I don't know, I don't know if you're gonna pick one. There's this one album that is like I cannot see here, whatever, and it's immediately, you know, your store. It's I mean, one, I wouldn't know about them if you introduced me and you know it's like oh great album, and they really haven't done a whole lot since then, but you know, yep, I think I know that one excellent, excellent album. Yep. I don't think I'm I'm not gonna I'm I'm not gonna pick that one. We probably will talk about it at least. But looking through and there's other things, I'm like, man, you know, there's some from that year, and then I saw one, I'm like, oh man, it's like an album, one of those albums that I thought was excellent and loved it, and listened to it a whole bunch, and I can't remember the last time I pulled it out, but I'm like, I listened to it today because I'm like, man, okay. Yep, and then it was one of those like what and it's my bad, but you know, I don't know what happened to them, you know, like I didn't keep following them or didn't keep uh you know up with them, and I think they've released things since. I guess they have six albums, but okay. So went to see Kings of Leon at it was the at that time it was the Roxy. So now it's Buckhead Theater, what but you know, good size, I mean decent, it's a smaller place, right? It's a great, great venue though, seeing great spot, and and that was like early Kings of Leon, right? So the you know, the their first album or whatever, their second came out, I think 2004, Aha Shake, whatever that one was 2004, the one before that youth manhood, whatever. Yep, young, yeah, that was 2003, I think. So it's right then. But the band that opened up for I I'm sure that I'm pretty sure this is the cast, but the band that opened up for them, never heard of them before. Went to the show, and my wife and I went and we're like, these guys are great. They were just like kicking it out, and like, who are these guys? So it's this band from the town of Sparta, Tennessee. All right, okay, and it's a band called The Features. Oh, yeah. I've I And they had this album called Exhibit A.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_01And it's like, I don't even know how to like I was looking at what they I don't even know how to describe, but it's like I forgot all about that. Indie Rock, it's you know, they don't sound southern, really. No. No. They're kind of they call them, I don't know, they were saying they call them a psychedelic rock outfit that plays fresh off-kilter pop. Sounds like a head-on collision between Ray Davies and Elvis Costello.
SPEAKER_03Hey, I mean, come on.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, alright. So they're just, it's just a good indie rock kind of a lot of songs are like fast and short, you know, they're just like they bring it to you, but it's called Exhibit. I guess they had a couple EPs out. They released an album that was released in the UK, and then they didn't get released until like a few years later in the States, and they finally released, I think, this album in 2004. Yeah, which was like technically their debut, at least in the United States, their first full length. But I remember buying it either at the show or right after. We're like, man, those guys are great, and went and bought the. I think we might have bought it there, you know, bought the CD at the show.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I guess they have six albums, but I have not kept up with them since then. So I guess they did like a little remake of that album in this 2006. I mean, two, I'm sorry, two 2026, like this year. Yeah. It's called Exhibit A Sweet Tea, which I'm not sure it's a different version or something like that. So but I maybe I'll go back and revisit some of their older stuff because I kind of I just I don't know, the for some reason I didn't keep on listening to them, which is a bummer. But the features, they are excellent out of band out of Tennessee. Check it out. Exhibit A.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was a um, that was a mainstay at the store. That sold really well. So they they had a single for they had a couple of singles for sure. Yeah, we'll we'll talk about that a little bit later about like 2004. The dynamic then was just completely different. But yeah, I totally remember this album. I couldn't tell you what they sound like though. I was confusing them because I was thinking, I always thought the futures were like a UK band for some reason.
SPEAKER_01Right. You like you could you could say you would think they would be, I think.
SPEAKER_03I was confusing them with the band that's uh had the song Jerk It Out. Now you jerk it out, and I can't think of who that band is, but it's same era, same time frame, similar kind of a vibe.
SPEAKER_01Um they talk about them sounding a little bit like the jam.
SPEAKER_03Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_01As well. So it's kind of like you know, it's like they have some uh Caesars.
SPEAKER_03Yes, yes, that's the that's another band I was thinking of, Caesars for sure.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yeah, so I mean look reading like about reading you know the features, uh like little write-up and whatnot. I talk about like what they did, and they were definitely did a lot of stuff in the UK, like they released things in the UK, and then you know, like they did a bunch of seven inches that never saw domestic release, you know, but they were over there, so they kind of have that sound. You could totally think they were, you know, right, a UK band and whatnot. But they didn't sound, I mean, there's a little bit of southern thone in there, but they don't sound like a you know, they don't sound like a southern band. And Kings of Leon, I love Kings of Leon, but they then I thought that I mean that was the they were definitely Tennessee Southern roots for for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Yeah Holy Roller and Vocane, I can just remember hearing that thinking that is the coolest freaking song. Uh, but it's they leaned into the southern accent. And I freaking I love those first three albums, man. I think I think they shred. And I like their newer stuff too. I I really do.
SPEAKER_01I it's different. I mean, I I do like it. I mean, definitely they're more of a main, they're like kind of, you know.
SPEAKER_03I've always, you know, they had an album called Sunset, whatever, and that that year when that came out, that was Becca and I we loved that album. We collectively listened to that more than anything. It's got a palm tree on the front cover, kind of an orange cover. I've we really dug that album. It was, I think it's the one after the one that had Sex on Fire, the the big album for them. Um, but yeah, that's a good call, man. I I'm gonna go back and listen to that uh features album because I love that when it was released. There was so much stuff, so I'm gonna run through, I'm gonna do a mad dash of my top 10 albums from bands that just nobody knows.
SPEAKER_01Come around sundown. That's the okay. That was yeah, that was good. Yeah, this first only only by the night. That's similar. That was sick.
SPEAKER_03Uh, here we go. We're a rapid fire here. Uh number 10, Maritime, Glass Floor. Maritime was a bit of a an emo super group. Had the guy from Lead Singer from Promise Ring, a couple of other people loved it. Jay Robbins produced that album. Great album, probably their worst album, but still a great album because everything they put out after was was better. Uh, number nine, Ted Leo and the pharmacist shake the sheets. Love that album. I've seen him twice. Killer. Uh number eight, the album I think you were thinking about, band called The Shore. The Shore. Self titled album, their debut album. Killer album. Love it. Kind of a little brit popish, I would say. Uh number seven, Chris Whitley, War Crime Blues. Man, I had a customer, Derek Snowden, turn me on to Chris Whitley. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love Chris Whitley. That's one of his best albums. Uh number six, Secret Machines. Now here is nowhere. Saw them. Absolutely floored me. Just a killer live performance.
SPEAKER_01That's the white album, right? Yep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Drummer. Drummer is just like Jason. Uh he's like John Bonham times 10. Like, seriously. I'm just, it's uh as probably just equally as powerful, but they emphasize his drums as they should. Killer. Uh got a chance to meet him, really cool guy. Uh Amusement Parks on Fire, their debut album. Uh, it was number five. Matt Pond, PA Emblems was number four. Love that album. Saw him on that tour. Killer opened up for Keen. Excellent show. Number three, Cassabian. Now Cassabian's.
SPEAKER_01You had a big Cassabian, you had a thing in your store. Cassabian thing.
SPEAKER_03We we got a chance to meet him. Uh that's how my wife got the nickname Bex. Like Bex B-E-X is an actual name in the UK. Uh, I don't know if that's just a nickname for people that are named Rebecca or if it's just Bex. But when he went to sign, I have two signed CDs. I have mine and hers. And hers says, uh, love you, Bex. And he goes, and he said point blank, I'm gonna call you Bex. And she said, Okay. She said, You can call me anything you want. Just talk to me in that sexy British voice of yours. Uh, so that was awesome. Uh, number two, The Stills, Logic Will Break Your Heart. Oh my god, that album absolutely floored me. Uh, that is one I cannot wait for them to reissue that on vinyl because right now the original copy is way too expensive. Love that album. And my album of 2004, the one album that I sold the most ever in that store is a band called Ambulance LTD. Their album LP. Listen to that on the way home. We just came back from Atlanta today. Um, I was literally did a shuffle, and guess what popped up? Radio had the bins. Got halfway through the bins. I mean, we're talking legendary, legendary album. If you haven't listened to the bins, where you been? Crawl it, get out from under that rock and listen to that album. Uh but I got halfway through it and Becky's was like, uh, I don't know. All right, whatever. I'm gonna play this album because I have enough time to listen to the whole thing. So I listened to Ambulance, LTD. I mean, I'm telling you, man, I had a promo guy, record label guy that I had known from a couple of other stores that have worked years back, and brought me these. I don't know what to do with this album. Uh, and he gave me a sleeve of them and just tell me if you think you can sell it. I'll be back on Tuesday. So I opened up one, played it, and said, Holy crap. Like, like not only can I sell it, I'm keeping one of these. Um, it's an excellent album. There's so it's such a he he came back on Tuesday and I go, I'll take them. And he goes, Do you need more? And I go, Yeah. He goes, Do you want more? I go, Yeah, I actually need more. And he goes, and well, well, how many do you need? I said, Well, I've already sold six. And he goes, What? Oh my god. And I go, all you gotta do is play it, man. It sells it. Play it. It just sells itself. I don't think it's ever gonna get released because it was on TVT records, and I don't know who owns the masters of it. If I can tell you about this band, they sound a little bit like the strokes, but they don't. They sound a little bit like I mean, they're just all over the map. They right they sound like Velvet Underground, they sound like Pink Floyd, they sound like the Strokes, they sound the but they have their own vibe. I say Pink Floyd and this and uh Velvet Underground on this album. If I think the one of the bonus tracks is they do a cover of uh Oceans from the Velvet Underground, nail it. If you see them live, I saw them live once. They did a cover of Fearless, absolutely just incredible. Uh, the album is uh it's just so infectious because it's it's indie rock, but just every single song is catchy, but every single song is different, every single thing has a different vibe, but it just flows so well together. I have no idea. This is the only studio full-length album they ever put out. Uh I love it. And I listening to it today, it still resonates as well as it did when it was released. So what I just don't understand how bands like that don't, you know, I just don't understand how they don't take off. They were in New York, they were in the right area at the time. New York was right. I mean, that's where strokes, all the big bands were playing there, they were there. Um, the performance we saw, everybody was floored. My buddy went with me, he had never heard of them, and he walked away going, These guys are awesome. Like these guys are incredible. Uh, when he heard Fearless at the end of the show to cap it off, he goes, Oh my god, and I go, I know, right? It's like my favorite Pink Floyd song. Uh, so I I don't know, it's like a lot of these bands, Casabian's still doing it, Matt Pond PA is still doing it, uh, Amusement Parks on Fire put out an album recently. Uh Chris Whitley has since passed, unfortunately. Don't know about the shore. Ted Leo's doing stuff, but very, very sparingly. So, but all of these bands, if they are doing it, nobody's talking about them. No. And it's just, and they're all so good. I I've seen most of these. I wish I could have seen The Shore. I don't know anybody, honestly, Kevin. That's the one album right there that I feel like was widely distributed, but I don't know anybody that was talking about them. No. Here at least. And Kevin and I were just like kind of infatuated with them. We're like, this album is so it's, I mean, it's it, I don't think they're in a UK band. I don't think they are, but they sounded like a really from California. Oh, I think they are from California. They sound like a really breezy version of Oasis. If Oasis was a little bit more chill and just, man, it's so good. Um, so I encourage you to listen. All of these, including uh the features, that features album is is awesome. I forgot all about that. Um, this whole era to me was just there's some good stuff.
SPEAKER_01I was just looking through some other ones. I mean, I was all over the place that year. I had some metal in there that I thought was really good, but uh since same here didn't there was a band called Three Inches of Blood that released their like second album, and they were so they were so good and fun. They had two lead singers, yeah. But one was like the screamer, and the other one was a little bit more of a growler and whatnot. But the guy, I think, blew his voice out, couldn't ever sing, and then they band just crumbled. They were like it was like an old school band, but I knew I thought you would pick that ambulance LTD because that's just excuse me, that that album was it. But then there was like that same year, there's a couple that I was gonna talk about that uh it's like uh I just lost it. Then there was some good, there was some good like jam band stuff going on. Government Mule released an album. Uh Government Mule album's great. I think uh cheese, whatnot. But oh KT KT Tunstall released her album that was like the one that you know The Horse and the Cherry Tree or whatever that was on there. It was called Eye to the Telescope. Yep. That's an X and she's great. I've seen her in concert and she's like she's still releasing really good stuff, but you know, no one's no one's really talking about KT Tunstall right now.
SPEAKER_03It's probably better now than she was then, but unfortunately, but yeah, yeah, she's great.
SPEAKER_01There was of course the big ones like France Ferdinand and uh The Killers and those albums were right, you know, that year.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, same thing with like uh another one we've talked about notoriously that Kevin's like, I'm just uh I I always have checkmark, check them every year. Diamond Knights. They released their album. Uh God, we we're begging for Priestess to get back together. You want to talk about another party metal band? They were incredible. That was around the same time frame. Um, I mean, I go back to why am I drawing eating glass, like eating glass, why am I drawing a blank? Uh Block Party. God, that first block party album was so good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, I remember like because I was listening to all that all those bands, and back when we had uh Sirius, you know, there were Sirius and XM. They were separate in this at that time. They weren't Sirius XM, they were two different things. We had Sirius, and there was a channel, and I think it's like the one that's like I don't know what it turned into, like XMU. It was like the Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_01It's like the it wasn't like it was like new, I don't want to say new, it's not new way, but it was like the new music, and so you'd hear like all those bands we just mentioned, you know, The Walkman, and then you know, this, that, the other thing. But an album they played, or a couple songs they played all the time. I remember we were driving, we took a trip, we were in California, and we listened to we were driving, and we were listening just that station constantly. And there was that band, they're from the UK, or it's actually a dude, but the streets. Yeah. The British like rap band, and and they had they had that album, what a grand don't what is it called? A grand don't come for free. Yeah. Oh, I love that album. I almost picked that because I mean, and they released like he, I think he's released something a few years back. It's just good. It's just like you know, British dude rapping, right? That song, you know, uh Fit But You Know It, and then there was Dry Your Eyes, which is the other one. And it's just like the dude kind of, I don't know, it's just cool. British so much stuff.
SPEAKER_03Like there's bands like the coral. I was listening to the coral, but they had been around for a while, but they put out a really good album. Uh, there's a band called The Legends from Sweden that were like a Swedish power pop band. They had a their first album was incredible, incredible album. Uh, another band called Marching Band was really good. I mean, there's just a ton of stuff because back then, I mean, it's literally I would get I would literally get a book uh or I get guides that were sent to me. Right. We'll talk about like how different things are now, but I would get a guide from my distributor of new releases, and then I would have a link into the portal and stuff, and I could and I could look up and go, okay, who is this? And I'd literally, I would spend it the earlier in the week when it was slower, and it was always slow, so I had time, but uh when it was slower, I'd sit there and just dive into the database for a couple of hours just finding new stuff.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03And I would request, hey, yeah, I would talk to my distributor Michael, the guy at my rep, and I'd go, hey man, any promos you got, these are the things I'm looking for, but send what you got. And he would send a ton of promos and stuff, and it was great. Um, but there was so much stuff, like another one that came out was the posthumous album from Elliott Smith from A Basement on the Hill. That was released this year. That's excellent. I went with, you know, my top 10 were just bands that I feel like nobody talks about. Like that Cassabian album, I haven't liked anything they've released since then. I I haven't disliked anything, but nothing's really hit. But that album was just like holy crap, good. I mean, I played the crap out of that, so that was easy. It you know, that could have been number one as well. I just I find myself more listening to because they're still doing it. I find myself listening to that stills record in the ambulance a little bit more.
SPEAKER_01But hey, listen the stills, that was great. I'd tell you, take me back to that station, listen to the stills and the yeah, yeah, and that other band. Now I can't think of them right off the top of my head. But then there was some great metal that year, too, because I remember going, because that's when like heavy, like more extreme, like Lamagot, Ashers of the Wake, Leviathan, Mastodon that came out.
SPEAKER_03Burn the Burn the Priest, Burn the Priest came out around then, too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right before. So I mean it was like oh yeah, good stuff. What was uh now you got me thinking uh of other bands, but I'll have to stop.
SPEAKER_03Alright, so this is something I I just wanted to dive into because I was thinking about like for me back then, there's two things I remember. Um, this is pre-Facebook guys. This is 2004, Facebook did not exist, and MySpace was in its infancy, so that's that's hard to believe. Like MySpace for me was how I met people out of the state because a lot of bands and stuff were putting stuff out on MySpace so you can find out information on them. And so I had a page, I had a town crier music page, and I remember like I had Lene and Michael that were from California that would order for me on a regular basis. I remember introducing Mike to uh the band The Black Angels, and he's like, Oh my god, thank you so much! You've turned me on to them and Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. He's oh my god, these guys are incredible. And Lene ordered all kinds of stuff. That was the couple there, and then there was another gal from uh the UK. She's a huge OASIS fan. We go back and forth. So um, but I wanted to get a you know, it's I asked chat GPT, I was like, all right, here's the thing. This is this is a big year for us. This is how Kevin and I uh got to know each other. This is how we met. Uh tell me the differences of 2004 to today. Let's just look at things overall. Okay, iPod streaming everything. In 2004, the iPod was king, people carried around thousands of songs they owned. Now, streaming dominates, ownership is almost irrelevant. Playlists replace personal collections for many listeners. People rent access instead of buying albums. So sad. Uh uh physical media collapsed, and then vinyl came back. In 2004, CDs still ruled retail. We know that. I mean, they still ruled retail when I closed at the end of 2006. I closed my location at least. Big box stores had huge music sections. Midnight release parties actually mattered. Now CDs are niche, although they're coming back. CDs are coming back. Right. Uh vinyl became collectible and fashionable again. Record stores survived by commit uh becoming community spaces, curated experiences, and lifestyle hubs. Uh-huh. Let's see, MySpace, Facebook, TikTok. In 2004, MySpace was where bands built audiences. Music discovery felt grassroots and messy. Bands customized pages and uploaded songs directly. Then came Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Now a 15-second clip can launch a career overnight. It's nuts. It's nuts. Feel free to chime in anytime you uh radio lost its power. Okay, 2004, radio airplay still mattered. It could make or break. It's hard to believe. In 2004, could make or break an artist. MTV, V81 still had influence. Regional scenes mattered more. Now, Spotify playlists often matter more than radio. Viral moments outperform traditional promotion, and niche artists can thrive without mainstream exposure.
SPEAKER_01Right. That's that right there is huge. There's so many artists that don't have main that people know nobody knows who they are. I mean, I'm right. Yeah, yeah. The general public has no idea who they are, but they're doing just fine, right? They're selling whatever, they're not selling albums, but they're performing and going on tour and everything else, and you know, you're never gonna hear them mainstream anything, but they're like I say a niche artist, and yeah.
SPEAKER_03Anytime somebody releases like a like it depends on where you go, right? If you go to Billboard or whatever, then the top 10 singles are gonna be very different from the stream experience. Because like Spotify, if somebody were to tell you these are the top 10 songs that are trending now on Spotify, the map the general public probably would not know a single one.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03Unless a big artist just explodes. If right if Taylor Swift released something, then yeah, absolutely. Right. But a lot of these artists, like it'll spit it out, and I'm like, I have no none. And then you look up the page and they're like, they get 1.5 million streams a day or something. This is like impossible.
SPEAKER_01They just watched, I was just watching uh what's his name? Rick Beato. Do you see that one where he did like is is rock is what do you say, is rock music back? I haven't seen yet. Yeah, I haven't seen like 10 bands that are getting like a lot of streams, a lot of play, like have over a million this or that on Spotify. And it's like most of them were new to me, you know. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. I'm like, all right, you know.
SPEAKER_03So and what but were they rock bands? A lot of them were rock bands, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Some of them were really some of them were some heavy, there was some like Screamo in there and some really heavy, heavy metal. Okay, and then there are other ones that were just more rock, straighthead rock, stuff like that, kind of you know, indie, that type of thing.
SPEAKER_03Dig it, no, but I mean, regardless of either or I don't care. If as long if as long as it's rock, that's cool. As long as it's like I don't have anything against pop. I like I think some of the I think some of the trends that are happening right now are just a byproduct of everything kind of sounding samey, it doesn't mean it's bad. It just means, man, give me a little bit of variation, give me a little bit of you know, some diversity. Uh not saying it's bad. So to me, if you've got a band that sounds like, say, Mastodon's first album, and then you got somebody else that's coming out and they sound like I don't know, I hate to keep using the strokes, but you know, they they sound like a good end, like spoon or something like that. It's like, heck yeah, I'll take both. Give me both. Um, all right, it's home. So they're talking about home recording became professional back then, yada yada yada. I'm not worried about that. Attention spans changed the structure of songs. So in 2004, songs had longer intros, you had guitar solos, you still had hidden tracks. We've already talked about skits, right? Albums designs, uh, albums were designed as full experiences. Now, hooks arrive immediately, songs are shorter, fewer intros, outros, artists optimize uh their streaming retention for TikTok clips, which is a shame because I I noticed that. Like we go back to our albums we're talking about. There was one song in particular on the Ambulance LTD album. I think it's called Stay Where You Are. I love that song. Uh and it's like maybe a six-minute song, but it doesn't really fully kick in until two minutes. It doesn't become a traditional song until two minutes. So you've got this whole buildup of like this gauzey kind of fading guitar that's fading in and out, and then it just gets stronger and stronger, and then the rhythm kicks in, and then the drum kicks in. It's so good. And I remember looking, I looked at the screen, I was like, Oh, it's been two minutes. You couldn't get away with that now.
SPEAKER_01I was listening, one of the songs that that Rick was playing, it was like, oh, is this rock? Because it would like had a big, it had a big intro, and he like played it for a long time before it really kicked into the I'm like, okay, I thought it was interesting that it did, right? Right? Because people, right, it's gotta be, you know, in your face, and like you let it like it in 15 seconds, which is just sad. You know, think about like old school, some of those songs that had those huge intros, like you didn't know if it was ever gonna, I mean, when's it, you know, when are they gonna start type of thing? But that was so like that build-up ready for it to go. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It made it. It it totally made it. It wasn't like I go back to that Secret Machines album, the very first song is just I mean, it's immediate boom, and you're just the the bass drum and him hitting the the snare, and it's literally doom dom doom doom doom. He does that for like a minute, and you're just you're so into it, you're just so waiting, and then the lyrics would start coming in. He'd sing a line and it'd just keep going back into it, and by the time the song kicks in, you're just about ready to explode. It's so powerful. I haven't had an experience like that in forever, right? And we're album listeners, we still the stuff we listen to now are albums, we're not listening to so that that's that's a big change, and it doesn't to me, it's crazy. I know it's been 22 years, but it doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like 22 years now. Like it seems like you and I met what 10 years ago.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, something like that. 22, no way, man. No way.
SPEAKER_03It's insane. Um oh, this is a big one. Music journalism changed completely. 2004, Rolling Stone reviews mattered, pitchfork could reshape indie careers, no doubt. Local papers covered scenes. Now it's all about influencers and reaction channels comparing uh uh for to compete with critics. Uh user scores and community chatter matter more, and discovery is decentralized. This is so crazy. I'm not knocking, I'm just saying No, no, no, no, it's it's so different. Uh Dorin became a main Revenue stream in 2004, albums generated serious income. Touring supported records. Now, if you don't tour, you don't make money. Right. You just don't make money. That's the one thing that uh I'll give credit to the owner of the wood shop. Is they they so they played a two-part set and they had an intermission. Um, so they played for like an hour, had an intermission, came back, played another hour. And he said both times he goes, Look, guys, merch, buy merch. You're already here, so you've already done your part. So thank you so much for that. Live music is so important. Let's take it a step fur further. Buy a record, buy a t-shirt. This is how these people make money.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03You didn't used to hear that. You didn't like you, it was just assumed you were going to do that anyway. Right. It was just icing on the cake for them, you know. I can I now it's the right. No, go ahead. You were gonna expand.
SPEAKER_01No, it's now it's like how they, you know, the the only not the only way, but one of the only ways they're making money is you know, selling their merch because they're not selling albums, they're not, you know, none of right.
SPEAKER_03And you know, if that you buy, that's the thing. Like if I go somewhere and I know I'm gonna see a band, a lot of times I'll hold off on buying that album until I can buy it from them directly because I know they make more money off of it. Hopefully they do. Hopefully, they're not, you know, in the beer in the beer space, if you're a brewer and you travel somewhere with your beer, you have to buy it from your distributor. You can't right.
SPEAKER_01You gotta go buy your beer to sell your beer. I was listening to somebody, it was like one of those. I can't remember what I was talking about, like bands that would go into town and go to the record store and buy their record to sell at the you know, sell at the uh insane.
SPEAKER_03That should not be the case. Like, I just think about how easy it was granted. You know, I just think about how easy it was for yeah, Eric and I to put out an album, and I still have, you know, I bought 20 of them, I still have 10. If anybody wants the record, let me know. You can have one. Uh I didn't buy them to sell them, but it's just so easy. And like if I do sell it, it's like, okay, it's 25 bucks in my pocket. You know, I've already paid the money out. Oh, yeah. So I don't know. Um, algorithm became tastemakers. Uh back then, friends, clerks, college radio, zines, local scenes help people discover music. Now, recommendation engines heavily shaped taste. Fans also like fans also like uh discover weekly and auto-generated playlist. Now I've always liked fans, also liked. I've always liked that. That's I mean, you could go back to whenever. If they would have put this in the all music guide in 1994, I would have been like, hell yeah. I would have I would have very much appreciated that. Um I don't know about the auto-generated playlist. I'm kind of on the fence about that because some of them are pretty good. Right. Honestly, I do discover some new artists. We've talked about this before with Apple. It's pretty cool to just let your album finish and let album curate something for you. I don't have a problem with that.
SPEAKER_01Especially if you're going a little deeper, it goes like if you let it play when you're listening to something like I don't know, Triumph, you're gonna hear just a bunch of like legacy stuff from that era, right? You're gonna hear a bunch of that, right? But if you're listening to something that's a little bit deeper, or if you listen to this like international or something, like an international, like an African band or something, you're gonna start hearing like that.
SPEAKER_03That's exactly cool. That's what another thing I was thinking about was like I bought stuff spur of the moment because seeing which was just like holy crap, they were so good. I would not have thought about buying their albums until I saw them live, and I'm like, right, I'll buy all of them. This was awesome. Um, but that is a great example of like unlike like Triumph, you're gonna hear stuff of that Ilkana of that era, maybe some new stuff because that's being popular now. Mdumakhtar and stuff is popular. Right. Maybe you'll hear some of that. But nobody knows those Zamrock bands.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_03So hell yeah, send me some. You know, what's what's the Black Power who puts out the peace? Send me albums from Peace, send me albums from you know, any of the negozi family stuff, any of the stuff they did all over it. Uh Kevin, Kevin should have his own like Zamrock channel. Right. Excuse me, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it'd be fun.
SPEAKER_03Uh all right, 2004. Music became more visual again. Uh in 2004, music videos mattered less than uh than the MTV peak. Albums still had major identity value. Uh now artists are ex uh expected to constantly create content. So I that's kind of cool. So maybe they are putting out more videos. I was I always love videos. Always thought they were cool. Uh visual branding is non-stop, short form video presence matters almost as much as the music that I don't like.
SPEAKER_01Right. But it's like I I like the release, and I guess kind of having a hard time here. I I like that the release, people are releasing stuff, but it's like now you're not like it goes back to some of the things they talked about, like albums and things like that, where I'll get those rec I'll look at the recommendations, what Apple tells me I should this is what you know, new new releases for you. I'm like, oh, and like half of them are singles that are being released. I'm like, I don't, I don't want, I mean, I'd really like I'll listen to a single, but I really want an album. I don't want, you know, a bunch of singles, right? Right. Or you know, the everyone's releasing EPs, which is cool, but then it's like I give uh I'm a little bit okay, more okay with that, but it's like yeah, I mean I'm with the album, right? So yeah, sometimes it's a single, it's like a it's the album's coming out in you know a couple months or whatever, and that's cool. But that I'm fine with, yeah, yeah. Right, that's cool. But if they're just releasing that, like there was that one uh and I shared him with you, and I go check them out. Anybody go check out there's a record label. I think they're I think they're in like Europe, Scandinavia or Belgium or something. They're called Koleslaw Records, right? So, and it's great, it's all like lo-fi, hip-hop, stuff like that. It's really, really cool. And I found this artist named Slug. Gotta actually watch in uh Bosch or whatever, Bosch Legacy, whatever it was. There was this, there was a song, and I shazammed it. But you go to their their like bandcamp page or their page or whatever, they got all their releases, and it's all a you can't just like push play and listen to anything. You gotta like, it's all a bunch of singles, or they release two songs, and it's so there's like, or you got an EP like give me an album by one of these bands, right? So I can listen to the whole, I can like just let it go for a little bit, whatever. So like I had to make my own playlist, yep, combining everything that they had and put it into one and then just shuffle it because it's all like one song here, two songs here, four songs. I'm like, that you know, I want to coffee bucks is the same way, you know.
SPEAKER_03Same way, exactly. You might get three or four songs, and it's like, man, I've got all these albums, and so there's another one too. It's a band. It I discovered this band because this gal is following me on Band Camp, and so we go back and forth and trade uh music, and she bought this. I think it's a band called AMPM or something like that. And he, yeah, same thing, he just kept releasing singles. So I bought all of those singles on Band Camp and created my own album. Right. Exactly. That's uh that I had an album, and it sounds great, the whole thing. Like you could create an excellent album.
SPEAKER_01Let it go, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, same thing with Coffee Bucks. Slug is awesome. That was the only hesitancy with Coleslaw, is like, oh man, it's all singles or an A side, a B side, and that's it. Yep, yeah. Excellent, excellent music though. Oh, by the way, if you haven't heard Dr. Bionic, they're not on Coleslaw Records. You should check out Dr. Bionics. We're going to they just released anything, he just released a new album, by the way. Uh yeah, huge fan of that style. Um, okay, genre lines basically collapsed in 2004. Genre uh identity was much more tribal. So emo kids, metal heads, indie fans, hip-hop fans, jambam people, etc. Now younger listeners mix everything. That's kind of cool. Like that. Uh playlists flatten genre boundaries. I kind of like that. And artists jump styles constantly. Okay. That can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing. Like, for me, right? If an artist is not meant to play a specific style of music, then stay away from that style of music. You got I don't want to take away from somebody. Like a prime example is the band that we saw. The uh the the male lead, the brother, uh, is in a band with the slide guitar player and I think the bassist, and it's a surf rock band. And I go, that's that's really cool. Uh so I can see them pulling that off, and he, you know, he played a she she even said one of our new singles was leaning into a little bit of their sound, so we're incorporating that kind of surf rock vibe to it. It works, but if you know, let's say Kings of Leon, we'll use somebody we've already talked about. If Kings of Leon decides they want to do hip-hop, I'm not I'm not there for it. Right. Right, no, not there for it. Uh anyway, uh that's all I got. I was just doing some comparisons. Uh I knew there was gonna be a lot of changes because I mean it there's it's crazy to think of that.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't feel like I mean it all happened, right? But it was so like to go back then. I mean, I think you when you mentioned first mentioned the iPod, and I went, oh my god, man. I started like, dude, I kept on like I, you know, my wife everybody jokes that I was trying to own like everything, you know. And I remember when the iPods weren't big enough, you know, I went I kept on getting the bigger one, you know. I went to it was like 64, then I got the 256, I think, of what it was, which is like yeah, you know, like, oh my god, do you have that much music you can put on two? No, like you're sitting there scrolling for you know, doing this forever to get into the the click wheel, man.
SPEAKER_03I I had the biggest one, I thought it was 160 gig. Is that not right?
SPEAKER_01I thought they went, I think they went bigger, like 256 or something, but yeah, I think I bought the 160. Yep. I don't know, it was crazy, but I think I had the one, yeah, one of those.
SPEAKER_03And it was like and it's still I ran out of space.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I ran out of space.
SPEAKER_01It was like banking. I kept using it. And I wasn't, I most of it was because I would burn everything. Yep, yep. All my CDs, I would burn to iTunes and put it on, you know, then put it on my then you down, you know, download it onto your device, whatever. So you had a bunch of CDs, which too many at the you know, yeah. You they all went on the iPad, or they're IPod, right?
SPEAKER_03And then yeah, well, I even I've seen DJs, I saw DJs back in the day where they would have like multiple iPods. They would have like five or six 160, like just everything they could get. I had a DJ, I had a guy that was a jukebox guy. Um he he bought literally he bought CDs for the jukeboxes. Um so he would come in and just mop up, he would spend four or five hundred dollars at a time just so he could have stuff in different in different jukeboxes. He'd buy the same stuff over and over again. Um but I remember being at a uh it wasn't a club, but it was a bar, and they had a DJ there. Um and yeah, literally he had like six of the 160 gig iPods, and he gives it such a pain in the butt because like I'd like to say I keep these things alpha tize, like this is A through you can't do that because it's impossible. I'd have to I have to re-sync this thing every day. So I just every anything new goes on this. So I have like iPod 1 is you know, up through 2000, this, and I'm oh, that's interesting. Um, the one thing, another thing I remember back then, and it I I was telling Becca this on the way home tonight. I distinctly remember a couple of kids coming in and go, you have to check out this uh video that's trending. Uh it's on this new platform called YouTube. Because YouTube was new in 2000. I'd have to look it up. I'm just I now I'm curious to YouTube. Um when did uh when did when did it kick off? February 14th, 2005. That's when it was founded. Um it's insane. And so the guy was telling me about it, and I go, okay, cool. And I start typing the website in. He goes, no, no, no, YouTube, and I go, like you too? And he goes, no, the word you, you, Y-O-U. And I go, well, you gotta tell me that, dude. If you say YouTube, it sounds like you too, so I'm gonna go the letter U. And he goes, Yeah, I guess that makes sense. But he the the kids knew about it, the kids already knew about it, right? So they they were kind of poking fun at me. Uh, and I remember going on there for the first time, going, Well, this is interesting, and he goes, There's all kinds of crazy stuff on it, man. It's awesome. You can go back and get old Jeopardy, you can get old versions of you know what your old T TV shows you used to love. And I'm like, what the heck is this? That wasn't that long ago. No, and now it's like I YouTube every I have I have a YouTube TV account so where I can watch live TV, and I have a regular YouTube account where I can watch this podcast and streaming and stuff, right? It's crazy, crazy stuff, man. Oh, but good, I don't know. Good times, man. Uh Becca, we were laughing about this on the way. I was like, you know, all this stuff was different. I said, but I have to say, I like both. I like now and I like back then. I I like the convenience that we have now.
SPEAKER_01There's good, there's good from both, man. I mean, not totally like just reminiscent nostalgia, oh it's better then. I mean, there's stuff that is definitely better now, yeah, right? And things that, yeah. But then there's things that, oh man, I wish we could go back and you know.
SPEAKER_03I just wish I had that same, you know, I have a lot of vinyl, uh, but I had a lot more CDs. A lot more CDs. Uh, they were more attainable, and I I actually, you know, granted, I was younger then, so I went to a lot more shows then, and I had a store, so I used to get free tickets and stuff for promoting and stuff, which was cool. But I, you know, I love both. I really do. I'm nostalgic for a lot of the stuff. Um, because you and I still do the same thing. Uh, the only thing we take the same approach, we still buy albums, we don't care about singles, we don't care about like what's trending or anything, we still buy albums. Uh, so our approach hasn't changed. So, in that aspect, it's it is cool that everything is so much more readily available, right? Like The Shore is a prime example. Like, you can get the first Shore album, and I think you can get their most recent album on streaming, but their second album for some reason isn't available. I have it, I have it because I bought it. I forgot I even had it. Um, so there's that, but typically it's the other way around. It's like, right man, I had this on CD, and I've like, and you look it up and you're like, oh, holy crap, like the features have like eight other albums, like which I would have had to buy all of that.
SPEAKER_01I would have to go out and buy. I mean, you you remember, like, I remember going to the record store, you know, that or the even going to like I remember there was certain band I loved and I couldn't find the album anywhere and that released a new album, and I remember going to Best Buy because I found out that they had one copy and I had them hold it for me because I had to go buy it when it first came. And it's just like that's crazy, you know. But I would buy it, and you know, now right it's there. I mean, yeah, we're paying for it.
SPEAKER_03The bands aren't getting crap from it, unfortunately. Oh, well, streaming changes everything. I I remember the first like I got my first iPod in 2005, so I waited a while and I was it was Christmas, man. I I I held out and finally I was just like, right, I freaking want one. I'm sorry. I I want what I want what's probably gonna bring me at my store down. And I remember the very first album that I downloaded was a band called Clear Lake. I was like, I want this album, and I could order it from a distributor, but it's $13 from a distributor, but I can get it on this for $9.99. I get it's gonna be my first album. And this is when you would buy an album and you would download it onto your iPod, and it took a while, but it was way quicker than I was expecting. Right, and I was like, oh man, that was way too easy. Too easy, it was so easy, dude. And now you think about like streaming, it is instantaneous. Boom, you hit play, and it if it doesn't play, I get mad. Like, what's going on? What happened to my internet, you know? Right? I get so irritated by it. It's instantaneous. Whereas before, we'd be like, Oh god, I can't wait until Tuesday, or I can't wait till Friday, because that's when that album comes in. Then you got to drive to the store to get it. And there was an anticipation factor to it. So yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I think there's pros to both of them. I'm happy with this.
SPEAKER_00Yes, definitely.
SPEAKER_03Uh all right, guys, thank you for uh joining us a little hanging out for a little nostalgia. Uh certainly. This is how Kevin and I met, man. It's awesome. I still remember the first day you came in. I feel still remember the first day you worked with me. It's been a wild ride ever since. So um, hey, we appreciate you joining in. If you have an album from 2004 any year that you feel like is overlooked, underrated, uh, hit us up.
SPEAKER_01Most definitely at schizomusicpod at gmail.com. Let us know what you think. Yep. Give us an idea, talk about 2004 any year. We'll, you know, we'll we'll share.
SPEAKER_02Until next time, we certainly appreciate you. Okay.
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