Grown Ass Dads Podcast | Episode 1: The Struggle is Real 🤦‍♂️🔥

Welcome to the very first episode of Grown Ass Dads, the podcast where three mid-life dads keep it real about fatherhood, family, careers, stress, and surviving mid-life—all with a healthy dose of humor, whiskey, and questionable decision-making.

In this episode, Adam, Jay, and Jason introduce themselves and dive into:
✅ What it means to be a "Grown Ass Dad" (Spoiler: It's exhausting)
✅ The chaos of parenting, raising kids, and keeping up with today’s tech
✅ Balancing work, family, and the struggle of mid-life responsibilities
✅ The impact of AI on our kids, education, and the future (Yes, we get philosophical)
✅ The joys and disasters of youth sports (Spoiler: Parents are the problem)
✅ Leadership & fatherhood – Are we leading our kids or just surviving?
✅ Plus: A legendary story about buying an engagement ring... from a bookie 🤯

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Transcript

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I'm guessing that sound means we're alive. I think so. So we are grown ass dads. Grown ass? This is a grown ass dad podcast. My name is Adam Bundoran. I am a grown ass dad, I guess. And I'm one of the the three of these knuckleheads that decided to start a podcast on a whim. How do you feel about being a grown ass dad? I like it. You like I like it. It's really fucking hard. It is really fucking hard. You're right, I. Would you rather not be a grown ass dad? Would you rather just be a grown ass? No, I think I think I'm in the right spot. All right. Who are you? I'm with you. My name is Jay Hilson. Adam and Jason. I have been friends for a decade or so, and we go through a lot of the same stuff. And we were sitting around, having some Bourbons a few months ago and said, hey, we should, we should talk about our stress and anxiety and funny and colossal catastrophe of lives that we have, on a podcast. And I think there's a lot of people around the world that, feel the same way that we do are in the same boat. So. Yeah, let's talk about it. Yeah. And, we're joined by our, our our tech guy, Hector. Hector, I like that. That's that's fun. No, I'm Jason Byrne. I am probably here just because I know how to work a computer. Oh, come on, man. No, I'm not talking about you, Adam. I'm talking more about Jay. Yeah, I don't know how to work in computer. You do that for me every day. That's exactly right. So you're the good looks of the group? Yeah. I'm happy to be here. I think, we have a lot to share, a lot of things. It'll be funny for people, a lot of things. It might be a little bit emotional. But looking forward to talking about what it's like being a dad while also navigating midlife. So I think it'll be a lot of fun. Yeah, I think I think that was kind of the premise of the show when we got together was, you know, we're buddies, we play sports together, our kids play sports together. And then this, this premise of, hey, this is really fucking hard. Like, to be a dad and, like, navigate the throws of today's society and jobs and all that stuff. We should talk about it. And we got together just to talk about it, and then we were like, we should talk about this, like, formally and, like, share it. And I think that's kind of how the started. Right? It is. Was there something formal that I'm missing, a memo or a note on that show? I thought we were just fucking around. No, this is real. Okay. It's there's a fee for you to be here. Oh, fantastic. Reserve. All right. Oh, that. That's worked out so far. It works. So I didn't bring any Woodford Reserve. Just look down, buddy. Oh, it's right in front of me. Okay, we're good to go. We're good. So? So we had talked about our, you know, our first show and what is it going to be about? You know, do we want to recreate this this event that happened a few weeks ago where we got together, probably the most formally. We've all sat down together, maybe ever. I don't know, you two work together sometimes. I assume there's professionalism mixed in. But we I mean, it was everything from. What's the name of the show going to be to what are great topics? To what are you personally struggling with right now? And I think it was kind of, a cathartic brainstorming session, at least for me. I know Jason brought in his little ChatGPT. Friend to, to help decipher, you know, what good names would be? Really quickly, though, while you're on that subject. Yeah, this whole this whole concept of. Did you know you can name your ChatGPT mine's named I, I don't know what you typed. Yes, that's a computer thing. You might be able to spell ChatGPT, or at least the last hack it. I can do it. Yeah, I can definitely do that. Not. I mean, don't touch me a whole lot else, but, I can definitely do so. It's an artificial intelligence tool that is used by, all of the school children to write their essays. Oh, we I did this growing up. That's well said. I needed this. Yeah. So I named mind. Okay. Minds. My son's name is Marcus. Why? What's a male name? Why did you choose a male name? I don't know. I just felt like that's. I was talking to a guy. Just talking to a guy? Yeah, it was like, So the first time I got on ChatGPT, I was sitting and on the couch. I think I was watching a ball game or something, and I'm just texting or, you know, typing away and, like, laughing and emoting and reacting. And Sarah's like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm talking to ChatGPT secure, having a full on life conversation with a computer. And I was, and I recommended and and Marcus felt you made you feel safe. Yeah. That was a good deal. All right, so that's the deal. Yeah. So I I'll have to put some thought into this. I don't know, I don't know what I would name my ChatGPT, but, I feel like it would probably have to be a female's name, though. No, you do you, man. I mean, I have to. I mean, the the the people that that tell me what to do the most in life that I actually do. And it works out well as females in my life. So I feel like I probably needs to be the work. Did you name yours? Jason? I haven't named it. The more you guys talk about it, I think maybe it'd be a good idea to do that because I literally talk to ChatGPT as if it's a human being. So, I say hello every single thank you. Every single time that I reach out to it, I say thank you. Yeah. Lord knows what's going to happen in the future, right? I mean, our future might be ran by AI and or ChatGPT, as we're calling it now. So I want to make sure that when the robots of the world and chat, GPT takes things over, they're gonna be like, oh, you're Jason, I know who you are. And you were very friendly to me. Yeah, we're not going to kill you immediately, which I can feel Adam going. I get what you're saying. And Jay kind of being like, you're a moron. No, I can see. I can see the robots taken over at one point in time, but I'm pretty likable, so I feel like the robots will love me. I think it's going to play a bigger role than we are comfortable with once everyone understands how there are zero limitations to it, because I think right now the limitation that I believe a lot of people have with those, those tools are what's the Twitter one grok or grok or there's a there's all kinds of AI tools. Claude is another one. Yeah. People I think people believe that these tools are like, I don't know what the capital of Argentina is. So let me let me ask, you know, ChatGPT or or I need a description for a podcast episode and I'm going to get some bullet points to it and it's going to spit it out. Once you realize that it is able to analyze anything on the internet like I was asking it, financial questions, like about how the different, financial institutions work based off of, you know, the current financial, structure as opposed to what it could look like under crypto currency. And, I mean, it was spitting out information that is all fact based information that, you can just analyze and make real decisions. I know we're getting a little deep into the into the, the nerd stuff right out of the gate. But I'm just telling you, it's a tool. I, I agree with you completely. The funny thing for me is I use it all the time. So, Jay and I have a digital marketing company that we, we do a lot of marketing efforts and things in the digital world for a bunch of clients, and the amount that I have used, the tool to help us with creating content and or drafting things for this, that, and the other thing is, is amazing. But what blows me away is I had it open the other day and I was working on a project, and my kids who are I have 16 year old twins. Both of them saw me working in ChatGPT and we're like, you're the devil. Like, you can't use that. That's against the rules and blah blah blah blah, blah. Yeah, you're going to be in I'm like, boys, right? I'm not going to write in a paper on Napoleon here. I get it. And I understand they've they've slapped down on the use of it in high school, which I think to some degree I understand. Yeah. But at the same time, the winners in the future are the ones who understand how to use it in the right way, not the wrong way. Right. But I don't have any clue how to give students the autonomy to use the tool without them using it in a way, or having the teachers be able to govern it in any way, shape or form and actually haven't have any control over it. Can you ask ChatGPT that? That's a good question. How do I regulate you? How do you how do I regulate you? And I'm, here's here's the problem. And one can it can it can ChatGPT, show me how to be a grown ass dad and make my life easier. And number two, I think what this is going to go to and the world that I see us moving unbelievably fast into is, a generation of people that can't really think for themselves. And it's, it's the reason that, you know, the you when we were growing up and you had to write a paper, you had to write a speech, it had to have some of your own creativity into it. And whether you did research and went to the library to figure out some, some stats, or you had to figure out some facts on the person you're talking about, then you had to put your own spin on it and the reason that they don't want the kids to use this tool is because they don't have to think for themselves anymore, and they don't have to communicate, and they don't have to, form their own original thoughts on anything. And that's, that's that's part of one of the things that I struggle with right now is like, you know, the, the technology of the world and the phones and the computers and, and, Alexa of the world, you know, everything is instant gratification right at your fingertips. And, you know, my kids who are 12 and nine, they don't even think about doing anything. They don't even type anything. They they won't go on their phone and and type in a search. They're they're just using voice and tell me, what? How do I spell this and how do I what what does this mean? And it's there. There is no original thought that goes into any of this stuff. And then I think the creativity and the communication of the kids is really struggling. Well. So two two things I want to touch on first, it's cute that you think they just now stop being able to think for themselves. I think I think our generation, we're the first generation that stopped thinking for themselves. Maybe not. This group, sure, but with, with. And I'll go a little. I'll go a little conspiracy theory on you real quick on the first episode. The fact that no matter what type of news you listen to, it's whether it's right side news or left side news or even central news, it's all curated based on whoever's paying for the news station. There's no real thought anymore. There's no there's nobody's reading bills and, you know, amendments and, you know, executive orders. We're all just like, oh, the Trump signed XYZ executive order. Well, what does Fox say about it? It's good. What does CNN say about it. It's bad. Like they don't even know. They don't even know how it affects anything. Sure. So like I think I think as a whole, we've as a society, we have trained our kids to get the information as quick as you can and regurgitate it and you in. Sure. And that's kind of where we're at. Like I, I agree that now it's the phones and iPads. I mean, my kids have all that shit like my, my son's I, my oldest is 12, my youngest is eight. They both have devices. They walk around with those devices all the time. And if I could smack them out of their hand and not get in trouble, I would. And I bought them. So, so how do you I mean, how do you guys deal with technology? I think we all agree technology is a tool. It is a huge tool that could could lead to great leverage if our kids understand the power of them within the right context. But how do you not let it go too far? How do you like. How do they still see the sunlight what what I think we I think we're down a rabbit hole. 15 minutes and 30s in our first podcast, our very first panel. And, what I, what I would love to do is, we're going to throw out a few different things. So I'm going to I'm going to throw this back on the rails, if you will. I think we're going to do a full podcast on raising kids with technology and how it's different than when we were growing up. And we can we should definitely work through that, because I know that every single dad, mom, grandparent, anybody that is going to listen to this or watch this is going to be dealing with the exact same thing. We, we, we throw out a whole bunch of different ideas and there's, there's going to be an episode that's going to be based upon just, being a dad and dealing with, you know, when your kids do something wrong and, and you know, how how the kids get discipline. Now, how did you get disciplined as a kid? And what's the differently? What differently is the answer? Differently is the answer. And I've got some stories on some things on, some parents nowadays that, invoke a premise that, their kids need to make decisions for themselves at a young age so they don't actually tell their kids what to do, ever. Which that drives me insane, which I, I, I, I kind of want to hit them in the head with a tack hammer because I don't understand how, a four year old has any idea what they want other than food or TV or and not even good food. And, I mean, it's just absurd. We don't. You talk about goldfish that. Well, yeah, we, we talked about we, during a doing a show on youth sports, and, you know, all three of us are coaches and youth sports and how youth sports is evolved from when we were kids and what it looks like now. And the, the, the crazy expense of it and the crazy FOMO and the just, it's a whole different world. It is a completely different world ruining youth sports. Yeah, it has nothing to do with the kids. The parents are ruining youth sports. And, and then you know, we're going to talk about some serious stuff and, and how we've struggled. And, you know, what you'll find out is, Jason's happily married for the last 20 years. I, I was married for 19 years and recently got divorced. Adam is married for 15. Married for 15? And were you married before that? No. Okay. No. Married for 15. Happily. Happily married for 15. With plenty of issues like everybody else has. But together for ten years before we were married. So, you know, you got a lifetime. She hung in for ten years. Nine plus. Yeah. How did you. How did you rope a dope? That for nine years. But, you know, when when things are going very well and no one's asking questions, you just don't. You just don't do anything. Don't talk about it. Yeah. You don't. You don't do anything. Yeah. You just kind of keep kind of marching for sure. Sure. You ran it down the down the line as far as you could. I mean, literally, literally to the fourth quarter. I mean, it was it was, maker, I think the I think it happened, we were, I don't remember, in our early 20s for sure. And, we had an opportunity to go on a vacation that we really wanted to go to. We're going to go to Ireland. And so I said, hey, listen, this is going to be expensive trip. Do you want to go to Ireland or do you want to get engaged? And she looked, I mean, 30s she goes, I don't go to Ireland. I was like, okay, perfect, I love you, I love you so much. Yeah. So just calm down the road another year. Yeah, yeah. So fantastic. We plan the trip to Ireland and I was bartending. I was, I was working in tech, but I was also bartending at the time, and I had worked my way into a nice little gambling issue with, regular at the bar. Family friend. Bookie. Sure. Yeah. Family friend. Book here for you. Right. And so for after after I had spent, you know, a few weeks of the NFL season running on all 16 games and not doing very well. He's like, you're going to stop gambling because we're a family friend, and I'm just going to drop the bar. And when everybody leaves, you're going to give me your tips and tell her, is that a sign that you have a real problem when it's the bookie who's like, you know, probably, yes. But also also I think I think he actually was like, this is a family. Like, your dad's going to kick my ass if I keep taking money from you. Yeah. So I was on I'm up on the the way to get in square with this guy. And I just saw him not long ago. Great guy. And I came to him and I said, hey, MLB's. Listen, I, I'm going to I don't need to bleep that name. I don't know, I think he's fine. He's not a buck anymore okay okay okay. He's like all this in the show. Yeah. So I tell him like, hey, you know, Sarah and I are going to go to Ireland. And it's, you know, I had money set aside for a ring, but now she. I thought she picked the ring, but she picked Ireland, and I would love it if you would loan me money with the juice so I can also get an engagement ring. So I bought Sarah. Sarah loves the story. Now she. I don't think she loved it. When we first got engaged, I borrowed money from a bookie to pay for her engagement ring. What kind of juice did you get on that? He was normally 10%. He gave me 7%. Gave you seven? Yeah, give me seven. Better than a credit card. Yeah. He's he's a good looking, good, good friend. Good guy. I mean, clearly a good guy. He told you to stop gambling. Yeah. And I here's the thing. Other than, like, you know, bullshit apps are our fantasy. I have not gambled on on a game since, other than bullshit. Yeah. So there's those, like, little apps where you can bet fake coins and all that shit. Okay, so we're not. We're not talking like you get into DraftKings or, like, daily Fantasy. Not really. I mean, I do fantasy football with buddies and stuff, but I don't get into the daily stuff. I mean, I number one, I don't have time for it. And number two, I would be there'd be no shirt on me immediately. Yeah. Well, so that sounds about right. Speaking. I'm going I'm going to Vegas in three days, and I may or may not come back with clothes. I'll never go. I'm going just for March Madness. And it's for the first four days. And, looking forward to it. I have a budget. I'm taking cash and, I'm not taking a debit card, and we're going to go out there and we're going to take our. We're going to take our stash that we squirreled away in the sock drawer fund and, put it all in black and let it eat. So, no, I, I'm just going to gamble on basketball and try and stay away from tables because it's going to be incredibly expensive. I'm pretty sure the next time that I go to Vegas, I'm going to keep my phone on me and I'm going to ask ChatGPT what I should do. That sounds right. It's going to be excellent. Thank you. Jason, go immediately to your room and lie down. Yeah. You're going to immediately get tapped on the shoulder by the boss. Be like, sure. No, I to strategize here in this blackjack table. You're welcome to play any other game, but you can now leave this table. I do like poker. Is that gambling? That's not sports gambling? No, it's still gambling. It depends on. Are you going to the casino and playing poker? Are you doing house games where you're spending 20 or $50? I'll sit at any poker table in the world. Okay? Okay. Well, I love it to to be, you know, direct with you. Yes. That's gambling. You're you fucking jackass. I know, but that's like the difference in, like, am I really an addict? It's just a little bit of crack. Yeah, well, this is true. I mean, you're it's again. Yes, it is just a little bit of crack until, you know, you're on the side of the road itchin with one shoe and not understanding how you ended up in Memphis, so. Or potentially on a barge. But we'll save that on a barge. Yeah. That's that's absurd. And that wasn't correct. That was roof line. But I didn't do that to myself. But we, I mean, we really have, run the gambit here in the last and the last little bit we have we have, we have thrown some teasers out there. We're trying to toss the hooks out. Yeah, the hooks are there. We'll talk about boarding a barge on roofies, and we'll, we'll talk about our gambling addictions, and we'll talk about, you know, how we're, proud of ourselves for the the wins that we have when we're a great dad and and ashamed of the times that we weren't such a great dad. And, you know, there will be some episodes where we're going to talk, some candid about just, you know, the mental struggles of having the weight of the world on you. And, you know, it's, you know, you to have, an absolute partner in crime and, and somebody to, to to fight the battles with you. But ultimately, our wives, my ex-wife, you know, we had, when things got sideways, they looked to us to make a choice or to make it better or to take the pain away. And, that's a that's a hard. That's a hard way to shoulder all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that coupled with, you know, so I think all of us, we all have boys, right? Yeah, yeah. So we're, we have all boys and, and I, my kids look at me sometimes and I'm looking at them thinking like, how can I not fuck you guys up? How how can I how can I make sure that you're a better version of me? Yeah. You know, Not hard. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, the bar is pretty low. It it is, but but but that's what I think about all the time, like. Oh, something crazy happens. You know, Jason and I are going through this crazy shit with our school right now, and, and the the first thing that comes into my mind when I think about, like, what can I do about this is like, what am I going to teach my kids about something like this? Something like this comes up where they feel completely helpless. What what what, what model do they need to see to be able to learn from as opposed to, like, not like nothing like my my dad sat and bitched and didn't do anything about it. And then. So now that's what I how I'm going to do with my problems is sit in bench and do nothing about it. Sure. Like I don't I don't want to do a lot of the stuff I do, but I, I feel like I have to because if I don't, what am I doing? Yeah. I think the you and I for sure are Type-A, independent thinkers. And, I would I feel like we're cut from a similar cloth, and I don't, enjoy authority very much. So, I, I tend to think for myself and, want to run at my own pace. And Jason does that to an extent, but, I think he does a much better job of taking some direction from others, than the two of us do, at least from ChatGPT. Yeah. Well, I mean, you let the computer tell you what to do, which is good. Here's the thing about that. I don't like authority. You are very much correct. But if there is a great leader, I will follow. I'm 100%. If there is somebody that, like, is I just see their their authenticity, their vulnerability, their forward thinking. Like, if I, if I see somebody like that, I don't want to be the smartest person in the room or the most driven person in the room or the most, you know, outgoing person in the room. But I want to be in the stratosphere of that person. Sure. And I like when I see somebody that's a great leader, I'm like, I'm I'll stand right next to that person. I have, a thing. This was a long time ago, and I'm. And I may end up butchering this, but, there is a big quote, General Patton. Yeah. And it's all. It's all over the place. I think it says something effective. Lead me, follow me, or get the fuck out of the way. Yeah, and that I. I'm in that world a lot. I, I'm, I'm okay leading or being led by someone that I trust. If I trust them that I, I think that they are motivated and intelligent and have a handle on the situation. I'll, I'll be the best worker bee that you've ever found in your life. Yeah, but if we are in a situation where I have somebody that's put into a leadership role that I think is an absolute disaster, there is no chance I'm leading that. I'm following that person and know this. It's just not it's just not happening. I, I mean, and it doesn't matter what it makes me look like. I've had that in a couple of different, corporate America worlds that I've worked in that, you know, I've had some great, great management, great leaders that I've followed and have have helped shape me and shape my career. And I've had some true magically bad leaders that I've gotten into with that. I've literally gotten into standoffs with to say, you're going to do this because you work for me. And I will have said very specifically, I'm not doing that because that's the wrong decision, and I'm not going to make the wrong decision just because you're going to tell me to do that. And, and it's it's been a little delicate, to say the least. I say, we could we could do an entire episode on, on, raging against the authority figures and, and probably have a whole bunch of people pound on their keyboards because they everybody I hope everybody, at some point in time had a great leader, whether it's a teacher when they're younger, whether it's somebody that they work with, somebody that's been their boss or their mentor, hopefully a parent, hopefully a parent, you know? Absolutely. And then you have others that not others, but you have that same group of people that have had a at least one, hopefully multiple great leaders in their life have had tragic leaders that have just been put into a leadership role, have no idea what they're doing. They're uncomfortable in their own skin, and they're leading because they they think they have to or they were put in that place. And, we could probably have a great discussion on what makes a great leader, which is something I'd love to do, because that, I mean, what are what are dads supposed to be? That's it. I mean, that's that's exactly what they are. They got a they got a lead and, and they, but they also have to follow when they're, when their wives have ideas or great ideas that they're going to do, they're going to need to follow and, and fall in line and, and hopefully, and this actually just came up in my drive back from another day today, hopefully your kids turn into a leader that you can follow them in, in a situation where they go, dad, I want to do this and they've got a plan. And you think, hey, this is a great plan. All right, buddy, let's go. Yeah, I'll follow you. Yeah, let's let's go get it. Yeah. So I think leadership will be an interesting topic, especially for me. And it'll be one of those, one of those many layers of onion that get kind of peeled off on the story of Jason. Exactly. Right. So, we'll we'll talk about my imposter syndrome in a, in a later episode. But, I mean, I've been a people leader my entire life, like, I worked in corporate fortune 100 and led teams of 95 and more, and that's what I did was lead teams. Yeah. And and never, never necessarily felt like I had accurately earned it or gone through whatever I was supposed to go through to get there. But even church organizations and things like that, I mean, leadership roles is, is, is where I've always thrived. And, to bring it kind of back to the podcast, though, like, I don't I don't know what lessons there are from being a leader of that many people and that type of an environment. What it what it's what has it contributed to my ability to lead in the home right. I mean, I feel like I'm learning and being led all over the place all day long, whether it's whether it's it's my wife or my kids or whatever, there's there's a lot of things that will dictate what happens in life, I think more so than in the work environment. Like, I think I had a pretty good handle on. I understand how to manage up, down and sideways when I'm at work, but when I'm at home, I'm just kind of like, shit, now what do I do? You kind of thing, you know? So it's, it's hard to prepare yourself for probably that the, the the reason those podcasts exist. I mean, there is a manual, right? I mean, they tell you exactly how to be a dad and exactly what to do, right? When things go sideways, you just go, you know, chapter two, paragraph seven, you know, exhibit A and then like, here's how you manage this isn't isn't it? I mean, didn't you guys get that book I, I didn't I missed it. Oh yeah. All right. Well I can't read. So I have the book. I just don't know what it says. I think it's the you probably have like Moby Dick or something like that. You just think it's the book. I didn't know there was a reading issue. I know you couldn't spell. Oh, no, I know lots of words. I just can't spell. We'll get into that, too. We can get into. That'll be hilarious. We can. You can fact check me through, through ChatGPT on. Why am I spelling is so terrible? I've already talked to Adam. I think one of the first segments we're actually going to have is a kanji spell. This. So at least at least once per episode, we have a word we throw out there and see whether or not you can actually spell it. And so my role on this show is whipping boy. All right. That seems fair. All right. It's kind of felt like me so far, but maybe I gotta take my shots when I can't because I know they're coming, right? I know they're coming. Right. I think I think we're just going to cross whip everybody on them. Okay. That would be good. That's right. That's that's part of what the show is. Well, guys, I think this is going to be a blast. Yeah, I'm super excited about it. At the very least, if no one even listens to this, I think this will be incredibly cathartic for the three of us and agreed, you know, get some stuff out there and and feel like we, we're trying to be better humans, better dads, better middle aged dad bod. Yeah, yeah, I mean, this I think the deeper examples that you gave of topics that we're going to do, that's the reason why we wanted to do the show. The other stuff, I think is just kind of fun stuff that we talk about and bullshitted, you know, around at the softball game or whatever. But I think the deep stuff is like, oh, man, we should probably really like as friends, we should talk about that stuff. But as people who care about delivering a message to others that may not be able to readily access it or choose not to, why not do it? You know, why not do it? Mostly because guys are supposed to be tough and you're just figure it out, just grind it out. And, you know, there there are a lot of people that they don't have somebody like you, they don't have somebody like Jason that they can talk to and say, man, I'm really struggling and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, and I feel like I'm just fucking the world up every day. And when you got to live in that and you got to stew in that every day, it just, it just cripples you. Yeah. And, and I'm very fortunate to have the two of you and, a couple other folks in my life that I could have opened candid conversations and vulnerable conversations with. And, since I'm virtually unembarrassed. Well, I figure let's just put let's do it. Right. So so we're doing it. So we're going to do it and we're going to have these conversations out loud and hopefully, some folks listen and they get a little bit out of it and maybe get a laugh, maybe get a little bit of, thought light bulbs above their head like, oh, shit, that might work for me. And and to be honest, I think the best gift that we can hope to receive out of this is this extending to additional conversations for those listeners, whether it's in their home or with their buddies or whatever. And hey, listen to these dumbasses on this podcast. They actually actually bring up some good points. And maybe we should talk about that stuff too. That's I think that's a huge, you know, I think that's that's the goal. That's what we're trying to do is change one perspective of one person who says, man, this dad thing is really fucking hard. I don't even know if I can do this. You know, I'm in a bad spot about leadership or teaching or sports, and I'm running around all over the place. And does any of this work, you know, any of those conversations that we've all had with one another sitting here at the play in the simulator or whatever, like those are the conversations that I think people need to hear. Sure. And what I know about the internet is all of the feedback on this show will be positive. There won't be any there won't be any haters. And, you know, it's just going to be rolling in of God. You guys are the greatest thing that's ever happened. Yep. Because, I mean, that's just how the internet works. I mean, people just love to sit behind their keyboard and just talk about how positive things are. That's what I see a lot of really like, you know, get in the boat with you. So I'm really looking forward to reading the comments. Yeah. Me too. So like administrative question, we're pushing this to YouTube. I assume we're we're going to be everywhere. Okay. So YouTube for video for sure. Yep. But we're going to put it out using. Buzzsprout. So I guess is the Buzzsprout. Yep yep yep. So that's basically what that means is if if you enjoy these conversations, if you want to partake and participate in these conversations by commenting whatever, subscribe to our channel on on YouTube. If you use an Apple phone then you probably have the Apple Podcast app. You can follow us there. Grown Ass Dads on Apple Podcasts. We're going to be on Spotify. I'm sure Buzzsprout will push us out to a few more platforms. Those are the big dogs. Yep. But we're going to have the all the social media stuff, because Jason says we will. And, yeah. And I'm, I'm pretty sure that I might have already bought grown ass dads.com. Oh, perfect. I needed to make sure about that. Okay. We the owner of a website. Well, I might be lying. We're. It's either had grown ass dads.com or grown ass dads podcast.com. One of the two. But we're going to have a website too. There you go. That's awesome. All right. So that does it for episode one. Nice little intro into who we are. Love it. And then we will we'll be back hopefully for one more episodes. I think things are going well. We'll give it a shot. Yeah. My brother Chad. Right. Cheers. Great first episode. Yeah J love it. All right. So yeah. So yeah we've growing nice dads out.