Grown Ass Dads – Episode 7: Do Dads Actually Relax on Vacation?

Vacation: a supposed escape—except when you're a dad, it's just another to‑do list with ocean views.

This week, the Grown Ass Dads dialed in straight from post-trip exhaustion to explore what it really means to take a break when you're the family quarterback. Between being packing sherpas, cruise directors, beach bouncers, and moral compasses, is “vacation” ever peaceful?

 Spoiler: not unless you sneak away on a silent paddleboard at dawn.

🗣️ In this episode, the dads discuss:
• Why vacations with kids often feel tougher than work
• The Great Branson vs. Table Rock identity crisis
• Hilarious and cringe-worthy moments at the Titanic Museum (yes, twerking included)
• Dad-only travel essentials: ski trips, dance recital flashbacks, and peace‑snatching tactics
• The “shit sandwich” phenomenon—slogging through the chaos for those sweet vacation wins

🆒 Tune in if:
You’re a dad craving five uninterrupted minutes with your drink of choice—or wondering why “relaxing vacation” turned into “hostage situation with snacks.”

📌 Quick Links from the Episode:

• Titanic Museum twerk-off
• Branson vs. Table Rock showdown
• Family vacay packing hacks

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Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;24;27
Unknown
Welcome to the Grown Ass Dads podcast. Boop boop boop boop boop boop boop. It. Oh, I miss that noise. You're listening to Grown Ass Dads podcast. I'm Adam Bunder and Jay Hill. Good to see you. Bones, it's been a bit. Salud, baby. And let's not forget, we still got Jason Byrne over here hanging out as well. So we're we're excited to be back in the studio bringing you some stuff.

00;00;24;29 - 00;00;50;26
Unknown
Just reminder, we are live everywhere on wednesdays.com, all the socials. And of course brought to you by 314 print Co Adam, take it away. So it's been a bit it's your fault. I'll own at least 33% of the blame. I feel like it's more like 75, but we'll do it. Yeah. That's fair. So we every episode, we're like, what are we gonna talk about?

00;00;50;28 - 00;01;18;16
Unknown
What do we do with our theme to be? Yep. So we have a few that we're kind of rolling into one, catching up, talking about vacations. I think kind of the theme is being a grown ass dad is hard. Doing a podcast about being a grown ass dad, apparently is harder. It is. It may not seem like it because we make this look easy, but, carving out a couple hours once a week is, tough.

00;01;18;16 - 00;01;39;16
Unknown
It's a challenge. Yeah. Well, here's the deal. I mean, we're kids are out of school. Vacations are rolling. Sports are still rolling. Life is still happening. It's fucking hard. It is hard to get us three men in a room. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well, we've done it. So here we are. Four. Where are we at? Here? Episode number seven.

00;01;39;19 - 00;01;58;19
Unknown
This should be episode number seven or number seven. We are over the 800. Listen, Mark, which is that good? Which I. I've never done a podcast before, but it sounds good when I, when I pull the thing up and I look at it, I'm kind of like, oh, people are actually paying attention to us. This is kind of cool.

00;01;58;19 - 00;02;25;02
Unknown
So here's this is what I've gathered more than how many listens or how many downloads or how many followers we have, or any of that shit. I've been asked multiple to call it 1020 times. When's the next episode coming up? I love it. Which is weird. It is, but it is. It means that, there's some some dudes out there and some there's some girls that listen to that are into it.

00;02;25;02 - 00;02;50;21
Unknown
And, they've been talking to me about how it helps them maybe understand their husband a little bit more, or just laugh at our moronic, stupid shit that we talk about. But, people like it. We're having a good time with it. So we continue to press on. Here we go. I feel like I almost got beat up a couple of times for not having new episodes, which has been like, you just run in people and I'm like, what's up with that?

00;02;50;23 - 00;03;19;24
Unknown
What's going on? Yeah. Where's the episode? You guys quit? I mean, what what what? That's that's on us. Because I feel that way also. Yeah. When I'm looking forward to something and then it doesn't show up, I lose my shit just a little bit. So check. Chill. Check this out. I actually, during during our hiatus, I ran into some grown ass dat fans in the wild, which this was bizarre, but hey, kudos and shout out to all the, the Lakers.

00;03;19;26 - 00;03;38;00
Unknown
The Lakers was the baseball team, and I was checking out. Okay. It's it's my nephew's team. And I showed up and they're like, you're you're pretty popular in these parts. Like, what are you talking about? It's what I just like. We all, we all listen to the show, and. And this is. We know you very well, even though we've never met you.

00;03;38;00 - 00;03;50;18
Unknown
And I'm like, okay, I guess we're we're kind of creating this now. Yeah. Right. But I mean, the great, great people I got, I had a chance to meet a couple of you guys. So thank you so much for the listeners and everything. But man, it was it was interesting to kind of run into somebody you've never met before.

00;03;50;20 - 00;04;07;26
Unknown
And they now know you through us doing this whole thing and just kind of demonstrates that there's, there's there's just so much I hear actor taking something away from it. You're not even you're not even popular in your own house. That's awesome that you're popular at the lake. You're popular in my house. I've never tried to be popular in my house.

00;04;07;29 - 00;04;27;02
Unknown
So, I mean, I'll I'll. I'll take what I can get. Oh, man. All right, so let let's do a quick pivot and just kind of catch everybody up on what we've been up to since. Since we, we last showed up in front of their faces. I'll give a quick synopsis of what I've been going, what I've had going on.

00;04;27;05 - 00;04;49;29
Unknown
We still don't have a bathroom for months now. No bathrooms. Are you still alive? I don't know, man. It's fucking crazy. We almost have a bathroom. We're really close. The the the heavy lifting is done. I installed some of the shower fixtures and stuff before I got here tonight. So, I, I don't I don't mean to be judgmental in any way, shape or form.

00;04;50;02 - 00;05;15;01
Unknown
It just sounds like you're just. I'm interested. With all due respect, I said, with all due respect, I've been a part of a couple of remodels. Yeah, a couple a couple of them have been bathroom. Yeah. And while plumbing sucks. Yeah. Truly. Like, were you actually moving any plumbing? No. No, Jason, actually, we weren't. We were putting it right fucking back where it was.

00;05;15;04 - 00;05;39;14
Unknown
What else you got? I'm trying to figure out, like what? What what happened? Well, yeah. Well. Yeah. What the fuck? Taj Mahal bathroom. Are you all right? Listen, how does this. Things tend to slow down when you do some stuff? Sure. And then you have to tear that stuff out, and then you do more stuff. Okay. Tense.

00;05;39;14 - 00;06;03;11
Unknown
And then we talk about mistakes were made. I would say mistakes were made. Okay, so this wasn't like both errors in, judgment, planning, preparation and execution of all fronts. I think you covered the whole thing up. It was all fucked up. Fuck. The whole thing up was all fucked up. Had to call in the cavalry. Okay.

00;06;03;13 - 00;06;24;18
Unknown
So how long until that bathroom is fully functional? There will be. There will be in-home bathing tomorrow. Wow. It's got to feel good. It feels pretty good. Yeah, yeah. So when do you start the next bathroom remodel? I'm. As soon as everyone gets their first round of showers, I'm going to burn the fucking house down that boy.

00;06;24;19 - 00;06;44;18
Unknown
Okay? Okay. And that's one approach you start the whole thing right off. Yeah. And then we'll just we'll we'll we'll get something nicer. Okay. Well, that's. So we do that. We're doing that. We got a chance to go to Omaha for, for a week and spend time with some family. Participated in the Sunshine Kids Golf tournament, which is an awesome organization.

00;06;44;20 - 00;07;04;29
Unknown
I think they have some, some stuff, in Saint Louis as well, but they're pretty big up in Omaha. Yeah. That's it. We're planning a trip to Branson. Do some fishing. Okay. That's it. Just working. Branson is my favorite, so. But but here's here's a question for you, though. Are you going to Branson? Are you going to table Rock?

00;07;05;01 - 00;07;28;08
Unknown
I'm going to table Rock. Thank you. We'll be staying in, Kimberly city. Rolling city. Yeah. Yep. Sure. We'll be staying in Kimberlin Cove and actually in a cabin type situation. Right outside of a pool and with a dock. I'll be fishing from sunup to sundown and seeing how many little gold tops I can drink in a row.

00;07;28;11 - 00;07;50;19
Unknown
I've noticed that all of a sudden, like, there's been a little bit of a shift for those of you who are not here in Missouri, everybody knows what Branson is, whether you're in Missouri or not. But however, there's been a shift away from going on vacation to Branson versus going on vacation to table Rock, because technically speaking, you're only going to Branson if you're going to the strip and listening to country shows, right?

00;07;50;21 - 00;08;11;00
Unknown
Whereas if I am traveling, which we go to Branson at least two times a year with the family, but I've started saying I'm going on vacation to table Rock. Maybe it makes me feel better about my destination. I don't know, could be. But it's also because my favorite part of those vacations is being on the lake, right? So maybe that's why.

00;08;11;00 - 00;08;30;12
Unknown
Yeah, we've done we've done table rock a ton and have never really done like the Branson. I mean, we've done little stuff like, yes, we've gone to Silver Dollar City and yes, we've done little bullshit here and there. We've never done a Branson experience trip until this spring break. We ran into your mom and dad actually. Sure did.

00;08;30;15 - 00;08;53;27
Unknown
Where we did Silver Dollar City. Silver Dollar City, we did that. We did old time photos. We did. Oh, man, you're going to Branson. We did all the fucking museums. And, the it was great. It was Ripley's Believe It or Not. So it was between that or the Titanic Museum. We went to the Titanic Museum, which is both entertaining and extremely morbid.

00;08;54;00 - 00;09;27;15
Unknown
Now shoot me in the face, dude, it is awful. It is the most morbid museum in the history of museums, and it's a spectacle of let's have fun experiencing how like 1200 people died. So J, I'm going to put this in your court for a quick second because the Titanic Museum in Branson been there. Yeah. Entertaining was not one of the words I'd use for it at all.

00;09;27;16 - 00;09;49;00
Unknown
Really? No, that was great. No. Like, I would probably rather have somebody pull my toenails out. No way. Then go to the Titanic Museum. Why? Because it was fucking terror like it was. You get to put your hand in the water. This is how cold it is when they died. Guess what? Let's. Let's put some ice in a bowl.

00;09;49;00 - 00;10;13;13
Unknown
Standing on a dock at 1:00 in the morning. This is how hard it was to stand on the deck. Nope. I'm out. You get to see, like, life. All right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna spread. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a broader picture of this. Are you would you classify museums as a whole as entertaining? Yeah, I think so.

00;10;13;17 - 00;10;39;07
Unknown
Okay. All right. You're fucking weird. So, I mean, it has to be an entertaining topic. And what's more entertaining than. All right, hitting, fake iceberg. Let's talk about what really happened. Let's get into it. Talk about the Rothschilds. We're not. We're not gonna. This episode is going to get serious. That's the that the the backup Titanic sank because they wanted to sister ship save the good.

00;10;39;11 - 00;11;09;22
Unknown
The sister ship never happened. So here's where I'm coming from on this. I, I, I enjoy museums in small doses. Terrific. I it's a beautiful. I, I'm not, I'm not a huge history buff. I'm, I'm not I but I enjoy museums for for 2 or 3 hours because I find them interesting. Yeah. The the the history, the art, whatever you want to do with it.

00;11;09;25 - 00;11;28;22
Unknown
At no point would I ever classify a museum as entertaining. Well, I think your definition of entertaining needs some work. My friend, I I'm, I'm similar to J. Like I museums for me much like you. What was it, 2 or 3 hours. That's a long two. That's a long time I think three for an hour. The difference between us is for me, it's like 2 or 3 seconds.

00;11;28;23 - 00;11;50;06
Unknown
Okay? I enjoy it, like it. But there's. Let's. Once the door closes behind me, I'm like, let me out, I don't I to be here anymore. Yeah, that tracks for you. But you don't want to be anywhere. So that tracks I I'm, I, I find so my father is one of these. My dad will spend a weekend at the history museum.

00;11;50;09 - 00;12;11;01
Unknown
Yeah. I think it's the greatest weekend of his whole life. And he will read every word on every page of anything. They will let him read to absorb all that. He thinks. This is the greatest thing in the whole world. I, on the other hand, like to go exhibit to exhibit and kind of read the placard, if you will, and like, okay, that's cool, man.

00;12;11;01 - 00;12;28;10
Unknown
I didn't know that. Okay. And then I move to the next one. Yeah. And then once I make my way through the whole museum to where I've seen all the exhibits, it's time to go. And. Yeah, and I had and I had a, I had a, a pretty good time and I learned some stuff and that might take 2 or 3 hours.

00;12;28;12 - 00;12;48;21
Unknown
And I'm not going to go back to another exhibit. I'm not going to sit. I'm not an art guy that's going to stand in front of the Mona Lisa for an hour. So I'm inspired by I'm not. I'm going to go, oh, cool. The Mona Lisa. Let's go, let's go. Well, I mean, she's not even that pretty. Well, big old say, like, we're just.

00;12;48;24 - 00;13;11;13
Unknown
I just move it along and there's all these people that go to various, parts of the U.S. part or any parts of the world that would have these art museums, history, museum science, what have you. And they're like, we are going to spend two days at this museum. No, no, that's crazy and excessive. And I go, I okay.

00;13;11;15 - 00;13;36;27
Unknown
And it's great for them. I don't want to do that at all. I think if you spend a short amount of time in a museum about something that you actually give a shit about or mildly entertained, I think that's fine. I okay, I humongous sports guy. Yeah, Louisville's the baseball sport in Cooperstown. I would love it. I've been to Cooperstown and I spent three hours in Cooperstown, and I love it more than anything else.

00;13;36;27 - 00;14;02;07
Unknown
Where are you entertained? Yeah. Lawyered. I'm so I was, but it but it was, again, it's one of my most favorite things in the whole world. Sure. And I spent three hours, and I felt satisfied. Yeah. And I went there with you. We drove to it from Syracuse, which was about. How long? How long do we drive our 45?

00;14;02;07 - 00;14;22;21
Unknown
Two hours. Maybe two hour drive there. Two hour drive back? Yeah. Waste of four hours. Great time. But it was it was it was it was awesome. I got to see all kinds of cool shit. But but, yeah, we, vacation wise for me, and I was just on a vacation, which is one of the reasons we were gone.

00;14;22;24 - 00;14;45;07
Unknown
But I, I I'm never going to revolve a vacation around, museum of any sort. It's just not going to if it's part of if I'm somewhere for a week and there's a cool museum that we're going to go spend 2 or 3 hours at on board. Cool. I'm not planning my vacation around the museum fair. I'm going to.

00;14;45;10 - 00;15;08;02
Unknown
Yeah, I'm sleeping in the day. What if it's a sleeping museum? That's funny. I might be in for that. But, no, that my my stuff. We, the kids and I went to Kansas City to visit my sister. Had a great time. We're home, did a business trip, then came back and and just got back from, volleyball National championships.

00;15;08;02 - 00;15;30;10
Unknown
And my kids and I were down there for five days in Orlando, and, my nephews played extremely well. We were down there to watch them and, my 16 year old nephew finished fifth in the country and, was awarded a, an All-American award. And my 13 year old nephew finished third in the country and was awarded an All-American award.

00;15;30;10 - 00;15;52;12
Unknown
And sweet, you know, brother's coming home with some hardware. Hardware. It was really fun. They played extremely well. A lot of really, really, really good players. But that was a vacation for me. I was in a convention center for 8 to 10 hours for four straight days, and then we were at the pool drinking and having a good time with the families and the kids and and everybody at night.

00;15;52;12 - 00;16;17;27
Unknown
And we had a we had a great, great, great trip. So that was that was why I think anytime you go to a national championship, anything and it's actually people, you know, and your family and like that's just that's got to be exciting. It was it was fun. We did we did have, a very big punch in the face of, everybody gets a trophy.

00;16;17;29 - 00;16;46;26
Unknown
So in these championships, there are multiple divisions. And so there is the open division, which then has your champion, then you have the silver champion, then you have the flight one and the flight two, and the flight three and the flight four and the flight five champion. Oh my word. And so all of the flight winners all get brought up on stage and they get medals for winning flight five.

00;16;46;26 - 00;17;17;00
Unknown
And and again, I'm, everybody and it's really hard to do. This is the top 48 teams in the country. But then there's a club division and then a third division that also has all of those different flights. So you may have a kid that was in the third Division, that was the, number 97 to 200 team in the country that they won flight four.

00;17;17;03 - 00;17;39;22
Unknown
And so and they're national champions, and they are the flight for national champions of this third division. And I suspect flight four and third Division don't show up in the Facebook post. Right, right, right. It's and I'm and I'm not banging on on kids for winning. So and you got to have a goal to achieve. But do we do we need medals for all of this.

00;17;39;22 - 00;18;02;02
Unknown
Like I don't understand why that would be the case, why you would want that medal. But everybody gets a trophy. Everybody wins. Yep. Everybody gets a trophy. Jason. Well, welcome to our world. Where have you been? Why haven't we been doing this? Because it's 75% his fault. The other 25%. Oh, wait, you just said you're traveling. Fucking volleyball tournaments and work trips in Kansas City.

00;18;02;02 - 00;18;23;02
Unknown
I would have made this work. I would have found a way with you guys. We're. Here we go. Problem? So. All right, word on you. Let's let's change the topic somehow. I, I have also had vacation, traveled to table Rock, not to Branson. We travel to table Rock. And staying where? We stayed. Not in Cumberland City.

00;18;23;02 - 00;18;44;12
Unknown
Normally we do stay in Cumberland City at a place called Serenity Shores. Like, legitimately, my family. It's ridiculous that we don't own a place at table Rock or branch. I know because we are literally there at least two times a year as a family. But also my parents travel. They're just themselves another 2 or 3 times a year.

00;18;44;12 - 00;19;02;06
Unknown
Let's get on this. Like the the amount of money spent on lodging alone is is probably pretty crazy. But hey, you know what? It's it's something that we all enjoy. It's something that, I mean, it just makes my parents year, really. I mean, especially my mom. I might she absolutely loves doing all the planning and all that good stuff.

00;19;02;06 - 00;19;22;19
Unknown
So, we ended up down there for a while. We've also had already one play for Aiden this this summer, which has been awesome. He was in Sussex and he played, Jojo, which was one of the primaries and nice. Sure. I knew that he's going to he's got another show coming up here in, two weeks, I think, at Wycliffe.

00;19;22;19 - 00;19;42;04
Unknown
So shout out Wycliffe. In the theater program. There he is in crazy for you, which is going to be a good show, too. I think he he he was disappointed because apparently they're not letting the, the dudes tap like, this. You guys don't know what the hell you're doing. I'm surprised the choreographer's like, no, we're going to leave it to the people who it can actually tap, right?

00;19;42;05 - 00;20;00;10
Unknown
They're like, let's see what you got, honey. Never mind. Have you ever tap dance before, have I? Yeah, I mean, I faked it before, but I don't. I can't claim that I've ever tap dance. I have tap dance. I have also tap dance. Can we can we understand a little more behind that? Sorry, I did it for a play actually, a long time ago.

00;20;00;12 - 00;20;25;05
Unknown
Okay? And it involved, is there video evidence somewhere? I'm sure there is somewhere. It would not constitute tap dancing. I could tell you that. It's making noise while my feet moved. Okay, all right. I took a dance class when I was a little kid that my parents put me in, and it was eight weeks. And every week was a different style of dance.

00;20;25;07 - 00;20;57;19
Unknown
So, I did did a little jazz, did a little tap, did some ballet, some hip hop and, that's a lot. I wouldn't let me tell man. Buddy. Oh, you want you want some of that? Yeah. My girlfriend watches Love Island, and so you know what that is? It is a show on Peacock that they put, a bunch of single early to mid 20s attractive people on an island, and they're supposed to fall in love in a matter of days.

00;20;57;19 - 00;21;17;18
Unknown
Oh, man. It's got it. It is. So. So says the guy who really enjoyed going to the the Titanic Museum. I'm surprised you haven't watched Love Island. It's educational. Let me let me tell you this. Dads that are watching. If your wife watches this, each show a little bit of attention and pretend, if you will. Hey, babe.

00;21;17;18 - 00;21;37;15
Unknown
Let's watch a show together. There is a lot of very attractive people on the show. There is a bunch of shit show stuff that happens. And, I basically poke fun at the people that are on there and comment on people's bad boob jobs and different things. And she thinks I'm the best boyfriend ever because I'm I'm doing this.

00;21;37;15 - 00;21;59;05
Unknown
You're watching her, watching her show. But but ultimately, there was a show that Megan Thee Stallion, whom again. Yeah. Nice. I didn't know who the fuck that was. She just shut the foot while tap dancing. No, she was not. She got shot in the foot and the guy's in jail now. Yeah. So she's, she's super famous.

00;21;59;11 - 00;22;19;12
Unknown
Not to us, but she did. She's super famous. She is super famous. And she is on TMZ regularly. Just for the record, yes, but she, she has, she has a dance that she coined that is basically twerking. Do you know what a twerk? I know what twerking is. So, we were watching the show, and maybe.

00;22;19;12 - 00;22;40;29
Unknown
Or maybe not, and at some drinks. And so, my girlfriend Mary Kay was like, hey, can you talk? And I was like, you bet your ass I can twerk. And then I twerked and she thought I was hilarious. I thought I was awesome. How are you? Awesome. For sure. But she thought I was less than awesome, but really funny for giving a whirl.

00;22;40;29 - 00;23;07;14
Unknown
So, So, yes, my, nine year old dance, classes have really paid off. Came back. Back. I mean, just like riding a bike, baby, 100%. Just didn't really work out for the twerking aspect. No no no no no, I mean, if you think that's good, watch me salsa. I mean, let me let me tell you, I'm professionally trained, 45 year old, overweight white guys are famous for their sweet dance moves.

00;23;07;20 - 00;23;28;27
Unknown
Don't make good. Don't think otherwise. I used to think. I used to think I was a really good. Let me rephrase that. Like at weddings and stuff. When I was, I didn't think I was good, I just didn't have any barriers to me stopping dancing. Yeah. And we had, this has been years ago, like 15, 20 years ago, we were at a friend's wedding and I was getting after it pretty good.

00;23;29;00 - 00;23;48;22
Unknown
And fir they had a party for their anniversary or some their first anniversary, and they put in their wedding video. Yes. And I mean, it was terrible. Yes, I was, and not only was I not scared to self, I for some reason that night because of watered down whiskeys, I was in front of the camera, the videographer, the entire night.

00;23;48;28 - 00;24;13;22
Unknown
It was basically my music video. Please tell me that you cleared the floor at one point. Oh my goodness it was so bad. I may as well have been shooting baby powder on the ground and rubbing my tuxedo shoes in it. It was terrible. It was the worst fucking thing I've ever experienced. I wish, I wish that we had video of the percolator from our friend Jason from a number of years ago.

00;24;13;23 - 00;24;30;26
Unknown
Oh yeah. I'm not going to lie to you like I. I'm not going to say that I'm a good dancer. I'm going to say that I've been told he he's been told I've been I've been told he can he can cut it up a little bit. I don't think he can do it anymore. I'm certain he can't do it anymore.

00;24;30;26 - 00;24;50;16
Unknown
But back in the day, if anybody's familiar with the percolator, my boy Jason Bernard could get down with the percolator. Yeah, there's there's there's some listeners right now who are going. Holy shit. I cannot believe you just brought up the perfect. Yeah. All right. And by the way, my my version of the percolator have no idea if it's actually the percolator or not.

00;24;50;23 - 00;25;15;26
Unknown
I don't care, but it is because I. Because I created my own version. It's basically the worm on top of a female participant is really, really good. It was the amount, the amount of brides that, have received the percolator from cheese and weddings we used a DJ was amazing and everybody thought and the grooms were like, you should definitely do that on my, my wife and everybody was like, this is awesome.

00;25;15;26 - 00;25;36;08
Unknown
And I and they paid you and they paid us to do it. So yeah, I, I obliged. All right. Like, let's look. Yeah, let's do that. All right. So here's what here to to to not go down history lane for the next four hours. I, as we're talking about what we've been doing, I have a question for you two gentlemen.

00;25;36;10 - 00;25;56;29
Unknown
We've been on vacation with our families, and we've had a great time. Have we? What does vacations get like? Oh, like, what's my ideal vacation? Oh, no no no no no. What does what does vacation look like for a grown ass dad. So what's what's going through your head the entire time you're on vacation? Relaxing is that vacation?

00;25;57;02 - 00;26;21;27
Unknown
How fun is that vacation? Is that vacation fun for you, or is it? And I'll throw myself under the bus first so that you guys can understand kind of where I'm coming from. I'll drive that bus. Let's go. I, I have been, on vacation to a number of different places here in the States, and we we would do a beach vacation every year, with my ex-wife and the kids.

00;26;21;27 - 00;26;53;14
Unknown
And it was really, really fun to see how much fun the kids had. Most of the rest of it was stressful as fuck because, again, you're you have to be certain places. You're out of your element. You've got a ton of shit that you're packing if you've ever seen, I guess I can point out a dad with 100% certainty on any beach anywhere, because that dad is carrying, like a Sherpa.

00;26;53;17 - 00;27;11;29
Unknown
A whole bunch of shit, or is dragging a giant cart behind him, and you have to get up in the morning because you have to go get your spot. Because your you, your, your wife or your whomever is saying, I want that spot tomorrow for the kids because we're going to be close enough to the water, but further not far away.

00;27;11;29 - 00;27;44;06
Unknown
But we're here. The sun, sunset. We need this umbrella. When you and, And that that's at the vacation I'm talking about. It starts when we're leaving the house because everybody's got their way of leaving the house. Everybody's got their way of packing the car. Everybody's got their idiosyncrasies. And, you know, the last vacation that I went on with my ex-wife a few years back, we went down to Florida and she decided that we needed a, travel carrier on the top of our SUV.

00;27;44;08 - 00;28;05;21
Unknown
Like a hard shell. We need whatever. We need one of the bag carriers. So you would think she ratchet strap on? Yeah. So this one. This one was her old. Was like a vinyl bag of some sort. And it had. And it was supposed to clip in to the seams of where the doors were. But she she was like, I don't really trust this is going to blow off.

00;28;05;28 - 00;28;32;06
Unknown
So she has me throw a ratchet strap around the thing in the car, like under the roof goes through, so it gets closed in and we get this thing going and I'm like, I don't want to do this. I think we should just put the hitch carrier thing on. It's easier. She's like, no, we need to. And so we get an argument before we leave the house for vacation, which really sets the tone really cool.

00;28;32;09 - 00;28;47;15
Unknown
14 hour drive to get to Florida. And, and so we get this thing in and we get it going. I'm like, hey, what do you think? She's like, I don't know, I don't know how to do this. This is your world. I go, okay, so I didn't want to do this, but this is my world. So sure.

00;28;47;17 - 00;29;09;09
Unknown
So I put this thing on. Seems to be fine. We get about an hour outside of Saint Louis, and the ratchet trap starts to work. And so now it for, So now I'm here in this thing, and it's driving me fucking crazy, but it's driving her fucking crazy, too. And she's like, she's not going to admit it.

00;29;09;13 - 00;29;24;27
Unknown
She's not going MIT. So. So now we're waiting each other out because I'm waiting to see who's going to see something first. So we go at at least an hour, probably closer to two. And then finally she's like, are you going to do anything about this noise? And I go, what do you want to do? She's like, fix it.

00;29;24;29 - 00;29;45;04
Unknown
You fix it. I don't want to take that story. I would have been so much better if it was Dan that said something first. Oh, yeah. And, but it was seriously my. You're interrupting my video. But the reasoning for this is like, the whole thing where it's really fun to see how much fun the kids have.

00;29;45;04 - 00;30;05;28
Unknown
And it's fun. It's really fun to spend time with the kids and play football on the beach and all this stuff. Getting to the fun is a gigantic fucking pain in the ass. And when the fun is over, it's a humongous pain in the ass to get back to real life, to then get back situated and now get the kids back on their schedule.

00;30;05;28 - 00;30;20;26
Unknown
And you, I mean, you got to be real fucking committed to going on a vacation like you got to know. Yeah, what we're getting into. And it is, it is fucking brutal. And I need no, I need a whole, like, when I get back from vacation, I'm like, I need everybody leave me the fuck alone for a whole day.

00;30;21;02 - 00;30;46;23
Unknown
Well, that's for sure. And that doesn't happen, right? But I, And I'm, you know, I'm definitely the dickhead for saying that family vacations suck. They don't suck. It's just hot. It's hard. Yeah, it's the same as what? The rest of the shit. It's fucking hard. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, I probably share in some of that stuff for sure.

00;30;46;26 - 00;31;08;21
Unknown
Long, long trips are difficult. Some of that shit I bring on myself, some of it I don't like, I, I am, I am the type of person that can not really think about what I'm bringing. Like if I have two pairs of swim trunks, a shirt and some flip flops and we're going to the beach, I'm probably fine.

00;31;08;23 - 00;31;38;07
Unknown
Sure. I also forget that we have family photos and forget that we're going to dinner at least once with everyone and forget that, like we would, we would be going to Walmart within four hours of us getting there and buying about shit. Yeah. And and my wife packs the car like fucking Tetris, you know? And I've tried before, and, and I, I may as well not try because she's going to unpack it and repack it 100%.

00;31;38;10 - 00;31;57;25
Unknown
The stress that comes along with vacation is this is my judgment is is self-induced because I have to for me, I have to pick my lane into like, where am I going to enjoy myself? Like, what do I really enjoy doing? And I have to make sure that I'm going to do that as much as possible on vacation.

00;31;58;00 - 00;32;13;10
Unknown
So like, I love to cook. I love to cook. It's one of my favorite things to do. If we're going on vacation with a big group, I want to cook at least one big meal, if not to. Okay, because I and I don't even need to eat it. I just like seeing people eat when I cook 100% with you.

00;32;13;13 - 00;32;33;10
Unknown
I like to play golf, and I like to fish. So if I get to play golf on vacation and I like to fish, and if I, if I get to fish on vacation, I could give a shit. Like, kind of sounds like table rock is perfect. It is. It really is perfect. But like, traveling and going on vacation has gotten so much easier as the boys have gotten older.

00;32;33;10 - 00;32;56;02
Unknown
Oh yeah. I mean, we used to be filled to the gills with stuff like under Stow and Go and on the fucking the roof carrier and all the things and now it's just it's so much easier because they have a little suitcase, we have a little suitcase, and we might bring some beach chairs. That's about it. How involved are you in packing for the boys?

00;32;56;05 - 00;33;16;09
Unknown
None in terms of clothing. Zero. Okay, like I carry the suitcase up from the basement. And have you ever seen that commercial where the guy, the the girl's getting ready to, leave her husband because she's like, I could use some fucking help around here. And he's like, check this out. And he, like, puts all the clothes in this hamper, and he, like, throws them.

00;33;16;09 - 00;33;35;25
Unknown
He goes, watch. Come back tomorrow. All. It's magic. It all gets washed and folded. And she's like, what about the dishes? Like, check this out. He throws all the beer cans in the shit on the coffee table. It's like in the morning it's all gone. It just, it just all disappears. It's crazy. Right? That's that's how it is.

00;33;35;25 - 00;33;52;26
Unknown
Like when we're packing for any vacations or even, like we go to Omaha a bunch or as much as we can. We don't get up there as much as I'd like, but, I don't know, three, 4 or 5 times a year usually. And literally, I bring the suitcases up, she'll pack all their clothes, she'll pack all our clothes.

00;33;52;29 - 00;34;24;20
Unknown
Except sometimes she'll like. Like she'll like, give me the benefit of the doubt. She's like, oh, God, pack your clothes. But. And then we get out there and I have no t shirts. Sure. Okay. She's like, see you. You are an idiot. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's gotten so much easier. But again, like, now the stuff that the extracurriculars, like Harry's into golf now, so I make sure his clubs are in the car, make sure his shoes are in the car, and he has balls and tees and all the things are if we're fishing, all the fishing gear is ready to go.

00;34;24;22 - 00;34;48;21
Unknown
I do that stuff. But like, food, clothing. I'm a spoiled fucking little brat, which I am extremely spoiled as well. And I'm going to speak to our most recent trip. And, honey, I love you. I need to be delicate. We don't need any more retract. Yeah. Hold on. We already have one retraction. We got a hand on that.

00;34;48;23 - 00;35;11;28
Unknown
I'll, I'll I'll handle that at the end of the episode, but, I, I agree with you. Like, I'm. I am spoiled as can be because I just, I'm not wired to think about all the other stuff. Same. So whether I'm wired that way or not, that's what I say. But Hillary is great about here. Here, boys, here's your list.

00;35;11;28 - 00;35;31;09
Unknown
You need two of this, three of that or this blah blah blah blah. Pack it, be done, be ready. And I'm like, I'm gonna wake up the day that we're leaving. It's going to take me 5 to 10 minutes to pack my suitcase and we're off and ready to go. Yeah, there's so much more to that. Right? Like why?

00;35;31;09 - 00;35;48;26
Unknown
I don't think of it. I don't know, but I know that there's way more that goes into it. And I'm. And I'm eating crow a little bit right now. Well hold on, I know that. I know that I've messed up. Let me ask you this because and maybe this is just my way of like justifying my own laziness.

00;35;48;29 - 00;36;12;16
Unknown
It's possible. Okay. I'm a terrible passenger in the car, so I don't care for driving 5 hours or 50 hours. I'm driving sure the whole way. In most cases, I drive. All right, but, like, that's that's not for nothing. Like, there are things. There are. I have qualities, there are things that I do. Things that in my mind don't.

00;36;12;16 - 00;36;34;20
Unknown
Don't negate the the need or the responsibility. But like I, I want there to be perfect example. Go get that spot in the morning because we want that area with the umbrella. Like I'll do that. Sure, I'll cook those meals. I'll drive, I'll do those things because that's what you do. You're fucking dead. Go do your fucking job.

00;36;34;26 - 00;36;56;19
Unknown
Yeah, I don't, and I'm not saying like moms like you, your mom, your dad do your shit. But, like, there's got to be some type of unspoken agreement to where one I'm going to fuck up packing. The kids will not have shoes or socks if I'm responsible for packing. Sure, but I want to make sure that everyone is fed and everyone is safe and everybody has their spot.

00;36;56;19 - 00;37;16;15
Unknown
And I'll wake up early and go do that thing, or I'll whatever it is like, I'll do I'll, I'll pack the cooler and drag it through the fucking sand. Like I'm happy to do those things, but there's other shit I'm just not going to do because I don't do it. Well, see, and I guess maybe that's that's why I'm such a piece of poop.

00;37;16;17 - 00;37;38;26
Unknown
Because we're on vacation. I'm sleeping until 11. I don't give a shit what the plans are. I'm sleeping. I'm on vacation because I'm on vacation, and I want to relax and not worry about things, right? Yeah. So yes, I, I'm not the one who's running down to the pool to make sure we get this particular spot, but but my family doesn't really look at things that way anyway.

00;37;38;26 - 00;38;02;15
Unknown
So I yeah, maybe I'm not expected to do that. Sure. Hello. And I think everybody has their own interpretation of what vacation is like, right? Wrong or indifferent. I fucking work on vacation. Every vacation. Every single vacation. This is the first. I was talking to Terry on the way here. Right before I left. This is the first Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

00;38;02;16 - 00;38;20;15
Unknown
The first three days I have not worked. Then I can remember. Love it. And that's not a healthy thing. That's not good. No. And there's a whole bunch of shit leading into that that I probably need to work through. We'll just stop doing that, dude. Tell me about it. I mean, just it's. I would love easy, right? Yes, I would, I would love to do that.

00;38;20;15 - 00;38;38;19
Unknown
Just don't just don't do it. Yeah. Okay. I, I, I had so this the first couple of vacations that I've had where I ate single dad and, and you go through the packing and the list, and I'm not a list guy. And up until two years ago, I was in the same boat that you guys are in.

00;38;38;19 - 00;38;59;12
Unknown
And the fact that I had to pack my own shit, that was about as much as I got ready for vacation. And then, you know, once we got on a vacation, I got to work. But the lead up, I'm not a planner. And so that wasn't a it wasn't a thing. And so thank God for my sister Katie, because that she was on this trip.

00;38;59;12 - 00;39;20;25
Unknown
And sure, shit is going to be organized. She sent me a list. She booked my flight. She booked the hotel for, like, legitimately there some friends of ours, like, I mean, this does that, like, irritate you that she, you know, does all this stuff and tells you what to do? I'm like, no, not a fucking. Oh, no. My life is so fucking easy at times where I'm like, I don't want to do that.

00;39;20;27 - 00;39;41;13
Unknown
I have to think to myself, well, she did 99 other things for me that I didn't have to think about. So I'm just going to let that one slide. Yeah, because my life is better because of that and I'm not wired to to go about it. So, vacation is absolutely fun. It's absolutely something I want to do.

00;39;41;19 - 00;40;02;23
Unknown
But I have to, like, gear myself up that we're we're going to have to get some shit done and eat some shit sandwiches and get it together so that the children and your wife and whatever are going to have a good time and try to make it. If my vacation is stressful but theirs is perfect, I'm on board, right?

00;40;02;25 - 00;40;27;29
Unknown
I'm on board. Yep. Because it's fun for me to watch that go on. And the more stress that I can take on. I'm officially going to sign up, on our next vacation. Hillary to eat shit sandwiches because I don't feel like I have been willing to do that. Yeah, okay. I'm taking that away from this conversation right now that I don't go on vacation to eat shit sandwiches.

00;40;27;29 - 00;41;02;01
Unknown
I go on vacation to relax and not give a crap about anything. Well, and I was going to add one thing that maybe this softens your commitment a little bit. I like it, you don't. It doesn't need to be a perfect vacation. They need this is. And I'm speaking for for my boys. They need 1 or 2 moments where there is pure joy, because there's been plenty of vacations where I'm dragging them places they don't want to go, and they're miserable.

00;41;02;04 - 00;41;25;29
Unknown
And then you spend two hours on the woody go kart track, and it is pure bliss. And it's the best vacation they've ever had. Table rock again. Yeah. We, so the two this episode is brought to you by table Rock. Shoot to that point, my nine. Here we go. Now, my nine year olds not into into sports as much as my 12 year old by a lot.

00;41;26;06 - 00;41;40;05
Unknown
But he had a bunch of friends that were down there. He spent a bunch of time at the pool, and one of the days we were supposed to go to SeaWorld and two of his buddies that were down there were like, hey, we don't want to go see where. We just want to hang out of the pool and play all day.

00;41;40;07 - 00;41;53;14
Unknown
And I said, Dan, do you want to do you want to go to SeaWorld with me and and hang out at the pool with your buddies all day? So I went to hang out of the pool. I said, okay, cool. He goes, but I want to go somewhere. I go, what about the the next day we'll go to, we'll go to the water park that's down there.

00;41;53;14 - 00;42;11;24
Unknown
And he was like, okay, cool. So the next evening we're talking about the next day. And I said, okay, we're going to go to the water park, or do you want to hang out with your guys because they are not they are not going to go to the water park. And he goes, no, I'm going to hang out with my guys and we're going to play at the pool again, have a blast.

00;42;11;24 - 00;42;32;18
Unknown
And they had a great, great, great time. We are literally on the way to the airport. We're in the air. We are in the van driving to the airport to come home, and he's playing on his iPad and he picks out a beetle. He goes, dad, are we going to the water park now? And I said, hey, but it's 8:00 at night.

00;42;32;21 - 00;42;49;09
Unknown
And we're heading to the airport. He saw me pack all the suitcases and put this, and he goes, you said, we're going to the water park. And I'm like, dude, we remember we talked about this. You chose not to go. And then he was pissed at me. And I'm like, goddamn it. Like, what am I supposed to do with it?

00;42;49;10 - 00;43;11;04
Unknown
Drag his ass to the water, fire dragon. Let's go. So we're going to go to the water park back here in Saint Louis, but, But yeah, along those same lines. What? What are your guys thoughts on vacation itineraries? I hate, like, I, I never knew anything different, like growing up as a kid. God, love your mom.

00;43;11;06 - 00;43;30;25
Unknown
Itineraries were a thing, right? Like, yeah, we knew that if we were there Monday to Thursday, here's what we're doing on Monday from 8 a.m. until 10 p.m.. Here's where it is on Tuesday from 8 a.m. until 10 p.m.. I've I've gotten separated from that because I would prefer to not have an itinerary and go with the flow.

00;43;30;26 - 00;43;51;20
Unknown
Shocking. And if that involves sleeping until 1:00 or 2:00, I'm on board. Yeah, right. So that's that's one of the things I like. Stresses me out a little bit about family, the larger family vacations now as we still have itineraries and this is what we're going to do, which I like knowing what's coming up on the following day.

00;43;51;20 - 00;44;07;23
Unknown
Yeah. But my kids are a lot like me and all. All they want to do is let's go do a couple of things. But when I'm not doing something, I'm just gonna be on my phone or I'm to be on my device and I'm good, or let's just stay here the entire vacation and swim in the pool.

00;44;07;23 - 00;44;32;02
Unknown
Yeah, you're going to have to. So that is dictated for me by the vacation. So if we're going to go to Florida, we're going to go to the beach and we're going to go to Destin or what have you. More than likely there is no itinerary. The itinerary is whatever we want to do in the resort. We go into the pool that day, we go to the beach.

00;44;32;04 - 00;44;50;29
Unknown
That's about it. If you're going to table Rock and you're going to have you're going to book, you're going to rent a boat, you're going to go fish, you're going to go golf, you're going to go do some other stuff. You kind of have to have a, a some sort of itinerary for the big things, for sure. You got a book of in advance, you're going to do that.

00;44;51;06 - 00;45;12;20
Unknown
But the, the people that have their trips booked out and the itinerary itinerary that is we're going to get up at eight, we're going to have breakfast, we're going to be here by nine, we're going to be there until 11 at 11, we're going to this place at noon. We're having lunch at one, we're going to be at this place from 1 to 4, and then from 4 to 6.

00;45;12;20 - 00;45;26;28
Unknown
We're going to have a little bit of quiet time. At 630, we're going to have dinner after dinner at 630, we're going to go down to this, we're going to go to this place. And then after that place we're going to go this place. Shoot me in the face. It is the fastest way for the me to have my last trip with you.

00;45;26;28 - 00;45;48;11
Unknown
I so I can't, I, I don't want to go somewhere and just not have any plans because I think you're asking for a lot of bickering and argument and. Yeah. And potentially not get to do some of the stuff that you want to do because you haven't booked it in advance or you haven't booked a boat, you haven't booked a tea time, whatever.

00;45;48;14 - 00;46;08;07
Unknown
But absolutely not. I can't I can't do that. Yeah. So I'm kind of like you broad strokes. So if I, if we go to table Rock, I know that we're going to go to dinner once, then I'm going to play golf once, and I'm probably going to fish from sunup to sundown. Any other day that I can.

00;46;08;10 - 00;46;25;15
Unknown
So usually, let's say there's, you know, five couples that are going and the guys are going to go play golf one day. There's a text that goes out says, what do you guys, what do you guys want a golf. You wanna golf on Tuesday? Let's golf on Tuesday. Okay. Great. I'll I'll look at tee times. Hey we're booked at 730 or 8:00 on a Tuesday.

00;46;25;20 - 00;46;46;22
Unknown
We're good. Great. We're going to get a boat on all. You guys want to get a boat on Thursday? All right. You want to do noon to six or you want to do ten to fat? Whatever. Yep. Okay. Other than the big ticket, broad strokes I don't want any itinerary. Zero. Yeah. Because and and I think Sarah's kind of like that.

00;46;46;22 - 00;47;05;11
Unknown
I like when we were to Branson. Branson on our spring break trip. Sure. I mean, we had to have an itinerary because we had we've been to table Rock a ton and we've never done the Branson experience. So it's like, okay, this day is Silver Dollar City. This day is old time photos. This day we're going to this place, this place, this place.

00;47;05;14 - 00;47;24;02
Unknown
And it was enjoyable because it was just us. Four. I've been on trips with family. Where it's like, hey, on Monday we're going to do this on two. And I, we look at each other, I'm like, I'm not fucking doing that. No way. Like, we'll do all the big fun stuff with the I'm not fucking doing that.

00;47;24;02 - 00;47;46;24
Unknown
I'm not going there on Monday. I'm not waking up on Tuesday and doing that thing for sure. We'll see him there. When we see him, we have a trip. Every other year we go to Breckenridge and we ski and God, I love ski. It is so anybody that's been skiing understands that if you stay on the mountain, you stay in a ski and ski out, you're spending quite a bit more money.

00;47;46;25 - 00;48;09;04
Unknown
It's crazy, for Off Mountain. What does that mean? Because I have never skied other than my sixth grade trip on whatever the fuck this place is in Saint Louis. So there's there's basically three different ways that you can stay. So you have off mountain. So you have you might have like a Holiday Inn Express. Let's just randomize this.

00;48;09;11 - 00;48;30;12
Unknown
That is, a mile away from the bottom of the ski lifts, and there's a shuttle that goes to and from most cost effective way to go about it and totally works. Totally works. You have a secondary position that would be bottom of the mountain somewhere. That is like a walking distance. It might be, you know, here's a resort.

00;48;30;12 - 00;48;55;06
Unknown
There's a couple chanties in in the township, might be, might be a 100 yard walk to get back to where that is or you have what is classified as a ski and ski out. So in that situation, you walk out of your condo house, wherever you're staying, you strap on, you put your boots on and your skis, and you ski down to the first lift and get on and go, get on to go.

00;48;55;06 - 00;49;27;03
Unknown
And when you're done, you ski off of the last run that you're on and you ski into your condo. It is goodness gracious. The only way that I will go, period. But it's a lot more expensive. It's a lot more expensive. And so I will only go every other year because of the expense of that. And forego going the other year because of when you go with people and you're doing something like skiing, which is a lot of energy, there's a lot of different runs that you can be on.

00;49;27;03 - 00;49;47;20
Unknown
There's different levels of skier. And so the ability to be able to go, hey, hungry? Yeah. And then me and the boys can ski into the condo, have a buy the warm up, whatever. Hey, you ready to go back out? Yep. Strap on our boots, ski back to the lift and go. There's no shuttle to deal with. There's no taking all your gear.

00;49;47;20 - 00;50;10;15
Unknown
There's no, you know, walk anything. And so if for me, in that world, that is maybe the best vacation that I go on because it allows you like one, you go there for, for four days and you're going to ski for three, and that's what you're doing, your ski. You're skiing because at the end of skiing everybody is cash.

00;50;10;17 - 00;50;35;15
Unknown
And so you're you're going to ski all day. You're going to cook a dinner that night. And at 830 everybody's passed out. And so there's nothing else really to plan. And it's great. You go, hey, what time do you want to get up in the morning? We're going to get up at nine and we're going to get on the lift at 930, and we're going to ski until we're tired or until we get hungry, and then we're going to ski into the condo and we're going to eat, and then we're going to go do it all over again.

00;50;35;15 - 00;50;58;25
Unknown
And it takes all of the other bullshit that you have to deal with and carrying kid stuff because you've never ski, but you go skiing with kids. Guess what? Kids don't want to carry their skis and or their boots or their boots or whatever. And kids get cold. They got snow in their boots. So then you got to if you are staying off mountain, kid gets cold and has a bunch of snow on their boots.

00;50;58;25 - 00;51;16;23
Unknown
You got to go all the way back to your holiday dress. You're going there, you're doing all this stuff. And so it's for me. I am going to spend the extra money, which is probably double, maybe triple at times of what it would cost me to stay off mountain. And for the pure convenience of not having the additional stress in my life.

00;51;16;29 - 00;51;44;15
Unknown
All right. So I do not like to travel. We know this. I. I want to stay home. I'm a homebody. I will go wherever the hell I need to go to have an opportunity to ski, because it is my favorite thing to do in this world really is skiing, winter snow skiing is, for me like the pinnacle of opportunity.

00;51;44;18 - 00;52;11;06
Unknown
It's freaking expensive, so it's tough to do it all that often. I mean, like Jada said, whether you're staying on mountain, you're off mountain, you're skiing, ski out or whatever. There's nothing better than being in Colorado or the mountains somewhere else and skiing on an actual mountain. However, we did a vacation last year. We drove up to the Wisconsin Dells.

00;52;11;08 - 00;52;30;18
Unknown
And we stayed at. For those of you who are not familiar with Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin Dells is like the indoor water park Haven, right? I have a great story about the ducks. Like like I mean the of the like. It's crazy how many indoor water parks are. But we went up to the Wisconsin Dells. We stayed at, wilderness.

00;52;30;18 - 00;52;57;02
Unknown
I think it's where we stayed with you. You've been there before, and they're hot. Awesome. And we went to Cascade Mountain three days. Cascade mountain is similar to Hidden Valley here in Saint Louis, where you're actually skiing on a hill. You're not on a mountain. Yeah. However, their hill has, like 35 or 40 different slopes you can ski down and the, the equivalent to what you're talking about.

00;52;57;09 - 00;53;18;16
Unknown
So they've got when we went last year there were 3 or 4, maybe five ski in ski out huts. So similar to going to like whitewater or water park where you can rent a cabana for the day. You could rent this ski in, ski out place. Hillary was fresh off of a back surgery so she couldn't ski. My mom doesn't ski.

00;53;18;19 - 00;53;42;03
Unknown
We had this ski and ski out thing that was a long one of the slopes that again, at any point in time were skiing around. You can just kind of plan your course and know that you're gonna get up to this lift at this time, ski down this slope, and then you ski right into your little hut, and it was right next to one of the food places, so you could order food and have it brought up to your location.

00;53;42;05 - 00;53;57;25
Unknown
That's awesome. I mean, it was it was unreal. And for, for a place where you ski on a hill, I was like, I kind of almost feel like I'm on a mountain because of the amount of choices you had, right? Yeah. That's the worst part about being at, like, Hidden Valley. You got three things you can ski down.

00;53;57;26 - 00;54;23;29
Unknown
You're like, all right, I'm kind of done. I don't want to do this anymore. But this place, I mean, Cascade Mountain was awesome. Their equipment was awesome, but it was at ski and ski out concept that really just kind of took it to that next level, which I need to go skiing. Dude, dude. Like, we we as a show, as much as we love it and how much we would love watching you attempt, oh my God, I feel like my knees would just shatter, you know?

00;54;23;29 - 00;54;49;09
Unknown
You'd be just fine. Here's, here's the skiing situation. One of my favorite ski trips I ever went on. Good friend of mine. We went skiing for his bachelor party. This is fif 12 years ago. And 30 dudes go to this to Breck, and we had a really, really good time night before. We're going to go and ski.

00;54;49;09 - 00;55;14;10
Unknown
There are roughly 12 of those 30 guys that have never ski before in their life. All good athletes, big meat head dudes, and I'm mostly a good person. And I said, guys, did you, did you did you book lessons for tomorrow? And they're like, well, I don't know. This guy's telling me I'll be fine. And this guy's telling me I'll be fine.

00;55;14;10 - 00;55;40;18
Unknown
I go, listen, dude, I'm telling you, the first time that you go skiing, you need to go do a half a day lesson. You makes it so much more enjoyable. You're an athlete. You're going to figure it out, spend a little bit of money, take a two hour lesson where they show you how to get up, how to fall, how to stop, how to control yourself, how to get in on, on and off the lift and it I promise you it is going to be the deal.

00;55;40;21 - 00;55;58;24
Unknown
So they're like, okay, we're going to do that. So we get up in the morning, everyone's getting geared up. We go walk out to because we were staying on the mountain, so we had to walk, I don't know, 50 yards to to the first lift. As we're walking to the first lift, I, Hey, hey, where, where are you guys taking lessons?

00;55;58;24 - 00;56;22;14
Unknown
And they're like, no, we're just going to figure it out. I go, I go, okay, cool. Well, here's the deal. I'm not helping you out of principle. I'm going to get. I gave you an opportunity. I'm going to watch you suffer. So now all the rest of the meat heads that are not that want to see their friends suffer, they they get they they show these guys how to strap their boots on and how to click in.

00;56;22;16 - 00;56;40;23
Unknown
And we go to the first lift and then we take the super lift. It takes you to the top of the mountain. So we got all these guys to the top. So now since you've never been skiing, when you're up on this lift and you're 50 100ft in the air, now you're seeing all this stuff, these guys are in full panic.

00;56;40;25 - 00;56;59;17
Unknown
So we're sitting on we're we're sitting on the chairlift and it's me on one far side, another guy that is scared a bunch on the other far side. And there's four dudes in the middle of us have never ski before. And so they're like, hills. Seriously, do not leave me. I go, fuck off, I go, I told you what you needed to do.

00;56;59;19 - 00;57;19;29
Unknown
So they're like, no, no, serious. I go, no, no, seriously. So, they go, how do I get off the lift? I go, I guess that's something you probably should have figured out before you got on the lift. Because there's no fucking stops here. It takes you to try. And guess what? When it knocks you off, you're going to stop this lift for every single person behind us.

00;57;19;29 - 00;57;38;10
Unknown
So I said, when we get to the top point, put your skis parallel, point the tips of your skis up, put your hands on the chair. And when you get to the end, there's going to be a red line. When you get to that red line, push off of the chair and just let your momentum go straight and just go straight.

00;57;38;13 - 00;57;57;07
Unknown
And we got them off the lift. Four guys go off and then they proceeded to grab on to one another and eat shit. I got a round of them and then they're like, hey, how do how do we put our skis back on? I go, you should probably figure that out. Deuces. I'm out. And so I ski down the mountain and we go down.

00;57;57;09 - 00;58;19;08
Unknown
I get back, I get back on the lift, I come back up these four particular gentlemen. It took them 3.5 hours to get down to the bottom of the mountain, one of which got taken down on a on a, emergency sled because they couldn't get him up anymore. And so they I mean, it was it was agonizing to watch.

00;58;19;08 - 00;58;43;29
Unknown
And so I just ski by myself and we and, well, with a bunch of the other dudes who were on there, but it was the dumbest decision ever because their ego of, you know. Yeah. 28. I'm an athlete. I'm an athlete. I'll figure it out. I'm not saying you can't, because three of those four dudes ski religiously. Since then, they had it took them 3.5 hours to get down like fully gassed, could barely walk.

00;58;44;01 - 00;59;05;26
Unknown
And they go every year because they're like, this is the greatest thing ever, And and it's and it is unreal. Believable. If I were ever to relocate my entire family, it would be to somewhere that we can ski whenever we want, because I don't. Everybody likes to ski, for the most part, yes. So, like I, I ski.

00;59;05;29 - 00;59;26;02
Unknown
Hillary hasn't skied in several years because of her back issues that she's got. She's she's enjoys it. But every time that we've gone because it's so damn expensive, it's around surgery times and whatever it should be, she should probably be nervous to ski anyway. So yeah, she's actually got a fuzed set of vertebrae now. So I mean, she can really screw some stuff up, right?

00;59;26;05 - 00;59;49;03
Unknown
Carter is an ice hockey player, so he loves it and just carves the shit out of the mountain. Aiden, who is my non athlete, doesn't care about sports. Whatever does awesome and loves it. Blake gets in his own head the same way that he does with with pretty much everything. Like he's good at it until he starts to like start to think about it too much and then all of a sudden, not so much.

00;59;49;03 - 01;00;23;17
Unknown
Yeah, it takes a day to kind of recover from that, right? But my God, just skiing for me is the ultimate. Just to give you an idea, when he's talking about expensive, your your family of four to go out there and ski for three days, I'm going to say that you're going to drive it. So you're going to the drive is the drive you're going to spend if you stay in a ski and ski out, lift tickets, gear, you're probably looking at.

01;00;23;19 - 01;00;49;03
Unknown
A $6,000 trip. Okay. Yeah. For three days. Yeah. So you're you're there for four nights, you're there for four nights, you're there for three days. You're probably looking at a $6,000 trip all in for your family of four. And so, you know, you go down to Florida to Destin, you stay in a resort down there. Again, if you're going to drive it, you're probably looking at a $3,000 trip.

01;00;49;03 - 01;01;15;17
Unknown
Yeah. But it's it is, it's the absolute greatest. And you knowing you that first time that you get up to the top of the mountain and you see you you can't describe it. Yeah. That's one that's. So I talked to people about vacations and stuff like that. And like, you like to go to the beach, like I want to go to the mountains over the beach 100% times out of 100.

01;01;15;19 - 01;01;41;01
Unknown
But you're going in the summer. You're not going to ski, correct? Correct. But but I want to go up there because it is it is stunningly beautiful. And that's why I that's why I enjoy the mountains in my mind. You've seen one beach. You've seen them all. I really feel that way. I mean, yes, I enjoy the beach, yes, I, I it's horseshit, but I know, but I've been to beautiful, beautiful beaches and I've been to shit beaches and it's like, yeah, it's the beach.

01;01;41;01 - 01;02;11;26
Unknown
But it's great though, Jay. This is also the same guy that thought the Titanic Museum was entertaining, right? This is also true. Bingo. I mean, like, so the probably the, the most beautiful view I've ever had on a beach was either like Maui or Belize. Visually stunning. The beaches sucked. Then the best beach I've ever been to like was, was probably, to be honest, Florida because Cayman Islands was was nice.

01;02;12;03 - 01;02;30;06
Unknown
Yeah. It was I mean, it was very good, but like, it just was okay. Like the beach was okay. Perfect vacation for your family right now. Where would it be? No cost? No. If you're going to plan the vacation that everyone in your family is going to enjoy, where are you going to go? I'm probably gonna go to the beach.

01;02;30;08 - 01;02;52;21
Unknown
Okay. Is any place in particular? It's probably going to be to, to like, alley beach or somewhere down in Destin or something like that. But I mean, it's not where I would want to go, and it's probably like I, if I, if I could take my kids anywhere, I would take them to either the mountains, like in Montana, or I would take them to Ireland.

01;02;52;23 - 01;03;09;08
Unknown
Okay. What would you. I mean, I think I know the answer. Yeah, the the answer is an easy one for me. I like ski 1,000%, but like, I would love to say that I'd like to take my family to Ireland. I would like to say that I would love to go to Ireland. It's the best trip I've ever been.

01;03;09;09 - 01;03;32;15
Unknown
I, my my family's from Ireland. I, I hail from there, apparently. I feel like I would be bored stiff. You wouldn't. What would I do? There's a lot to do there. I mean, like that. We spent an entire day in the Kerry mountain range. It's like a drive. Boring. Maybe. Yeah, I thought it was fucking awesome.

01;03;32;15 - 01;03;54;07
Unknown
I just keep. Yeah. So we stayed in an asshole because. Yeah. That's right. So I just don't enjoy looking at shit. Yeah, well, we went to this tiny fishing village, all the way in the south and went to, like, a distillery and and ate, a little restaurant down there. And then we stayed in class and went to a bunch of little pubs and sat and watched sports and drank beer.

01;03;54;07 - 01;04;17;09
Unknown
And it was fucking awesome. I swear, if I had, when I can do this, which hopefully is next year, maybe the year after, it's a ski trip. But I would do a four day. We'd ski for three, we'd ski for two days. On the third day we would do a backcountry snowmobile trip, which was incredible. That's that.

01;04;17;09 - 01;04;36;13
Unknown
It would be like a 3 or 4 hour trip. On the way back from there, we would hit the tubing mountain because they've got, like giant inner tubes that. Yeah, like I've seen those. Yeah. That you would like behind a boat and there's jumps and there's all that stuff and we play in that. And then we'd go back to the to the ski and ski out.

01;04;36;16 - 01;04;56;13
Unknown
We would ski our last day and then come out and that would be, that would be the best trip for my kids and me at the same time. We would that would be amazing. That's my my kids. They try the inner tube hills, like whether it's on snow or like there's even a couple little that will do it down, like water slides.

01;04;56;14 - 01;05;39;16
Unknown
Yeah, tubes. And they're like, it's great for the first 20, 30 minutes. And they're like, we're done. Let's go somewhere else. Yeah. And I also have done the snowmobile thing over the Continental Divide, and I would rather ski this. I don't want to I don't want to snowmobile all the time. But it was that we on that same bachelor party, we we took a trip and, did a, a guided trip up the mountain and then ended up in this, like, giant 400 yard by 400 yard field of snow that we were just ripping 60 mile an hour snowmobiles up and down and jumping them off of stuff and doing all kinds of

01;05;39;18 - 01;06;07;16
Unknown
stupid shit. It's very jet ski ish. We had an absolute we an absolute frickin blast. And, we did okay, but I think my boys would love it. Yeah. That's awesome. But the other thing that is interesting and your boys may be interested to this, this technology, I don't know, 15 ish years ago, started 20 years ago, where you can get an app on your phone that will tell you how far you went, how fast you went, like your top speed, all of these different things.

01;06;07;16 - 01;06;26;23
Unknown
And it's super interesting to see because it'll show you like a chart of all the different things that you did and how, how, how far in miles you skied. But, that turned out to be really dangerous for us at that bachelor party, because all 30 of us had these on our phones. And so then it became a gambling thing.

01;06;26;26 - 01;06;45;26
Unknown
Who could go? The faster you go, the fastest. So when you're going to spend the most time in the air. Right. But I mean, it's and and I got an ego just like everybody else. I'm like, man, I'm in ski since I was eight. I'm like, I can cook all these guys. And we're going through and when you get in, you let it go.

01;06;45;28 - 01;07;17;24
Unknown
I, my, my top speed was 68 miles an hour and no way 60 dangerous, 68 miles an hour. And I'm going and like I, I got to a point that I scared myself. I'm like, okay, if I, if I eat it like, you die, this is going to be real bad. So my buddy who this was his second ever time skiing on a snowboard, got to 70 and won the pot.

01;07;17;26 - 01;07;36;10
Unknown
And I was like, Corey, what the fuck? He goes, I just let it go. And I was just going to figure it out. I go figure it out is you were about to die like this is no like you caught an edge on your snowboard. I go, you're just you're just bouncing your coconut off the ground. And,

01;07;36;13 - 01;07;52;06
Unknown
But, Corey, I love you, but this is totally a Corey thing. 100%. And we, we had we we had an absolute blast. So we're sitting in the condo at night drinking or whatever. He's got their phones out. They're like, would you get two? Would you get to and and so you went through all this and we had a blast.

01;07;52;06 - 01;08;12;19
Unknown
And the kids think it's fun too, because my kids now are like, oh, I got the 30 miles an hour. I'm like, dude, you're flying as a dad. I'm watching them at 30 miles an hour. I'm like, slow down, the fuck are you doing right? You know, but I can go 68 and everything's fine. Yeah. So now we've gone all over the place, I think, it's a good catch up.

01;08;12;19 - 01;08;30;29
Unknown
So before we wrap things up, they alluded to it earlier. I do have one retraction. I'm just going to toss it out real quickly. I told a story wrong. Yes. So if you guys remember episode 2 or 3 or whatever it was, we were talking about a time your kids lost his shit and you had to keep your stuff together.

01;08;31;02 - 01;08;47;09
Unknown
Turns out the story that I told where my son lost his shit after a hockey game was actually my fault, not his. Because we're in the car, as I'm told.

01;08;47;12 - 01;09;08;00
Unknown
I kept bugging him because I wanted to get ice cream, and I kept saying, hey, buddy, do you want to go get ice cream? And he kept saying, I don't care whatever. And I lost my shit and said, that's not an answer. Give me a yes or no. That's when he proceeded to lose his shit and say, I'm never playing hockey again.

01;09;08;02 - 01;09;30;10
Unknown
So because you wanted ice cream, dude, what do you want? Ice cream. You want ice cream, right? So ice cream makes everything better. I agree, but I, I am sorry. Apparently I told the story wrong. So there you go. My my son was provoked by your story is where it is. I can't believe you retracted. It's unbelievable. If I told the story wrong, that whole story wrong, right?

01;09;30;10 - 01;09;48;22
Unknown
I got to do what I got to do. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. So the rules of storytelling. Fair enough, Adam, to wrap it up for us. Yeah. So, this is great. I'm glad that we got back in the studio. Obviously, you can you can find us on all the social medias.

01;09;48;24 - 01;10;07;28
Unknown
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Unknown
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01;10;52;29 - 01;11;16;19
Unknown
Yeah. I don't want to I don't want to tease anything, but we have talked amongst ourselves a little bit about guests. And, and I've, I think we've even talked about a specific guest coming on. It's a really, great dude who has, you know, 20, 30, 30,000 followers, on social media. Who has a dad themed, channel?

01;11;16;19 - 01;11;36;10
Unknown
Yeah. I ran into him, not too long ago, and he was like, what's up, dude? Where's the fucking next episode? I was like, all right, all right. Yeah. He posted that he found you in the wild. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. So, so I think that I think we're going to roll out some guests here in the next, in the next few months, but we can't let this, be too, too long before our next our next episode.

01;11;36;10 - 01;11;45;00
Unknown
This is a good one. Yep. I think we all agree. Enjoy the boys. All right. Great to see you. Peace. All right. Girl dads out.