True Crime, Poetry and Romance with Author Waterfall Adams

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Host Tanya Roundy interviews poet and self-published author Waterfall Adams about her two poetry books (paperbacks available on Amazon and other outlets), plans for translations and an audiobook, and the challenges of platforms like IngramSpark, KDP, and Kobo. Waterfall shares her background in art history with a dramatic arts minor from the University of South Alabama, her long-term writing process, and works in progress including a nonfiction guide titled “Make Money While You’re Sitting On Your Ass,” fiction projects like “Poetry Para” and “Noel Nuptials,” and a true crime book “Clout Killer” about the case of Kwame Wilson and Yolanda Holmes. They discuss research, genre differences, inspirations such as Maya Angelou’s “Still I Rise,” changing job markets, technology across generations, and promoting her work globally via podcasts and a Linktree.

00:00 Meet Waterfall Adams
00:32 Publishing Poetry Books
01:18 Writing Origins and Research
02:45 New Projects Beyond Poetry
05:58 Adapting Poems for Stage
06:41 True Crime Deep Dive
08:41 Poetry vs Prose Craft
10:20 Influences and Reading
12:47 Themes and Modern Work Life
16:42 Nickel and a Pig Foot
18:46 Themes In Poetry
19:37 Planning No Nunuptials
20:57 Finishing Books Matters
21:36 Global Promotion Strategy
23:04 Business Versus Jobs
24:46 College Costs Reality
25:55 Campus Safety Stories
27:59 Teacher Shortage Talk
29:39 Tech Of Youth Poem
32:26 Sci Fi Predicting Tech
33:53 Racism Then And Now
36:20 Where To Follow
37:21 Final Message And Farewell

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:10

Welcome, welcome everyone to Roundy's Rants, Raves, and Reviews. I'm Tonya Roundy, your host today, and I am joined by the beautiful and lovely Waterfall Adams, who is a poet, and I'm so excited to talk with her about what she's doing and her adventures into life and creativity and her message for all of us here today. So, Waterfall, will you tell us a little bit about yourself and what you've been doing?

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Well, my pen and stage name is Waterfall Adams, and just like what Tanya said, I self-published these two poetry books, as you see here. These are the paperback version, they're available on Amazon other atlets. And I'm trying to maybe get them and like translate in different languages and like the audiobook version. I just need to afford the studio time.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

That is always a fun venture into life and doing that way. I recorded my own audiobook, and it wasn't as good as I thought it was gonna be. So we could look at maybe can help you with that if you need to. But yeah, studio time is nice to get as well if you can.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Very cool. Well, what got you into writing? What kind of inspired you and when did you start?

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Well, I have written poetry for a long time, and also I was wanted to write my book, a book one day, just didn't know about what and how to go about it. It's one of the things I could do with my degree in art history of a minor dramatic arts, which I got from the University of South Alabama, because I had to do a lot of research, and it these two books have been years in the making, and also what I have also everyday life and other things inspired my writing. And also I do a lot of research when it comes to like the how to like self-publish, because it was a lot different than previous generations, especially even though the e the internet has made that an easy task, it does have its challenges depending on what agitator you use. Like let's say Instaspark, I think.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Ingram Spark, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Ingram Spark, and there's KDP Kindle Direct Publishing. There are they do have oh and Kobo, they do have their own, each of these agitators I just mentioned have their own guidelines, like certain files it will take, and certain files it will not take.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

It can get quite confusing and frustrating there with that.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

So you've been writing for a long time. When did you start? You know, younger, teenager? What were you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Well, I self-published my first book as you see right here, like five years ago. Okay. In February. And this one came out around the summer of 2022. And I'm working on more books as you we speak. Like the third one, I'm trying to find an editor for this one. It's called Make Money While You're Sitting on Your Ass. Where the word ass is spelled a dollar sign, the United States of America dollar sign. Okay, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

I like it.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

It's very you have to be more specific with that because you know there's a lot of different world global currencies, and their symbols are different.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Yes, yes, they are, and they can get quite elaborate as well on that one. But the idea is the same, right? I mean, it everyone will understand the concept for sure.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

So you've got an uh but yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Well, it's the first non-poetic book that I am working on, and I'm also working on some non-poetic works like a a couple fictions called like the first this one called Poetry Paradise. I might have some horror, some mystery, maybe some fantasy, some spoken word poetry. And also one of my poems that is featured, like even though both of these books, well, even though it's originally featured in this one, the more advised version is in this one where I'm trying to adapt in the stage and screen. And also another fiction I'm trying to work on is called No Will Nuptials about Christmas weddings, from like let's say the simplestity of like an elopement to like like a couple around the Christmas time getting married around either like City Hall or Courthouse or whatever, like the glam, like the formal, like someone a little more glamorous, a little more luxurious if you catch my drift around Christmas time, different styles of weddings, different couples around Christmas time because the those weddings be just so beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Oh, yeah. Christmas wedding is gonna be absolutely gorgeous. My husband and I got married in January, just after Christmas, and it was in Vegas, but not at you know, an elopement of one, but it was in Vegas areas, but in a true crime book I'm trying to work on called Clout Killer.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

It's about the case of Kwame Wilson and Golanda Holmes. Okay, well, I gotta do a lot, it's like a true crime book, a lot of deep research when it comes to that one.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

Nice. That that that's gotta be very interesting. Yeah. With an art major, but researching all these other things. Did the art major just prepare you for the type of research you were going to be doing?

SPEAKER_00 5:36

For modern dramatic arts, yeah. Well, yeah, I had to do re like with the art history major, I had to do research papers. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Yeah, I was gonna say. So dramatically minor. Okay. Was that fine? So I I'm a theater, I was a theater major, and then it went minor as well when I went into English and stuff like that. You say you're going into trying to turn things into dramatic or plays and stuff as well.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Well, with the play side, I know I'm reading it like a book from the library, like screenwriting for dummies, but when it comes to tur uh adapting one of my poems on the stage, either it's gonna uh that's a tricky part because either it's gonna be something like let's say like a musical, so maybe like a musical like on stage where it's gonna be dialogue or something like dance theater, let's say Alvin Ailey or like a nutcracker, where you don't really hear that much dialogue, but you see a lot of dancing.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

And poetry lends itself very well to that, so yeah, it's very good. So you're doing a true crime one with lots of research. What have you been finding through that? What's interesting that's drawn you down this rabbit hole for this true crime?

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Well, with this case of Kwame Holmes and Yolanda, I mean that calling of Kwame Wilson and Yolanda Holmesy, Yonda Holmes was Kwame's mother. She in sh like they lived in Chicago. She used to run, she ran a hair salon called Nappy Heads.

unknown 7:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

And Young Q well called Kwame, he was known at Young QC. He had a YouTube channel called QC Works. He had his mother killed because this guy he knew named Eugene. He had like snuck into like her condo at night and had her killed. Like he got money out of her like life insurance and bank accounts, where like he was on in on like social media flawing his like ill-gotten gains, and he did some cup, it's like a slang for like making it rain. Well, he tossed money to his fans, went to the bank where his mother money was or whatever, and kind of like made it rain and stuff. And that's and another reason why he got caught because like the guy who he hired to kill his mom, he only got $70 and he dropped dime on him, like told of stories. Uh Wilson is now serving 99 years in prison, while the person he hired to kill his mom is serving 100 years. And there was a woman named Loriana where she was like the getaway driver, whatever. She was serving like 14 years by her, she's out now by serving less time.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Wow, it's an interesting story. Definitely has got some drama in it for sure.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

But drama, he had this YouTube theory called like Nick's story.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

That sounds interesting. Now everyone's gonna go look that up and see what's going on with this kid, man. What's it like to write prose and fiction or and non-fiction and stuff versus the poetry?

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Well, it's like different types of styles of writing. Certain genres require in-depth research and also read read about these typical genres, even the sub-genres, like like is this romance that I'm working ranch fiction work on? Is it gonna be something like you'll see on let's see the Hallmark channel? They have some like these during the Christmas season, they have these like wholesome love stories, or someone with a little spice, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

A little more romantic. Has it been more challenging to write that than the poetry, or just different?

SPEAKER_00 9:29

Well, it's a bit different. Like I have like I said, I researched like how to do it, and also I'm looking at the subgenres, like a lot of things considering you write a drama or do a book, like are is it gonna be like a novel, a collection of short stories that in authology? I hope I said it right. Like the setting, the characters, dialogue, the time period where the story is going to take place, conflict, plot, a lot of things. And also, it since a book might have pitch is gonna be more descriptive, like what the character look like. Is this character tall, short? What color of this character's skin?

SPEAKER_02 10:15

Love definitely a lot more in detail than poetry where you can just write poems and put them in there and let them go at face value, huh?

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Is there a favorite author or is there an author or inspiration from when you were younger or what you read that?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

I remember, I think I remember reading, remember hearing this one poem on a what's that the I think it was like the United Negro College Fund. It's a poem called Still I Rise from Maya Angelou.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Yes, love Maya.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Any others that you you said, yeah, so Maya Angelou, any others that you read or books that you read?

SPEAKER_00 10:54

I remember I used to love reading fairy tales when I was a child, and I also remember I came across this book a few years ago from Liz Ryan. It's called Reinvention Roadmap. It showed me it's one of the books that spoke to me because it talks about how the job market, looking for a job, is not like what it was with previous generations, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Yeah, it's definitely different. It looks like you've got a wide range of interests and things to write and read about. It's fun to see someone all the time.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Besides, no matter how much of an economic downturn the world can be sometimes, people gonna read, so why not?

SPEAKER_02 11:36

It's true, right? That's the one thing we'll always turn to. We want to be entertained if we don't have a TV. Guess what? We can always have a book.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Yeah, kind of like with the Great Depression, even though how people lost their jobs and stuff. I remember hearing reading something about how the movies were kind of like an escape, like escapism, and also that's kind of when they started selling popcorn in the movie theater at that time.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

They could get food and entertainment at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

Yeah. Oh yes. Unlike today.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah, they definitely are a little bit more pricey nowadays on the popcorn. Whenever I'm teaching my students, I said, You guys know I say, you know, they were used to be called Nickelodeons, and they're like, like the channel? And I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

It was before the channel. Yeah. Like little clips of things. Like they call it a nickel to see.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Mm-hmm. Yeah, they didn't understand what that meant. And I was like, okay, guys, we'll we'll teach you. They only think of the the children's network, but it's not so child children anymore, I think. So what is there a common theme or message or anything that comes through your writing? Is there something that you kind of focus on how does it change?

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Well, it's like different things and different topics on these books. Like, for example, like I said about with my third book, it's my first non-poetic book. What I said expired inspired at book was one of the spin sprays was like the 2020 pandemic. Things didn't really change when it came to like the workplace because you know, like quarantine people things shut down, but then again, bills and maybe red hand shut down.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Yeah. The things that cost us didn't shut down, even though everything else did.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Yeah, and also her, and also my own channels are trying to find the job in a traditional way, but the traditional things that we learned about from our older generations in school, and it's not like what we weren't taught at all. Let me give you an example. When I was in South, I took a class called like the job campaign. It teaches people how to get a job. It talked about how it's like your resume gotta be on some certain type of paper. But while the time I graduate, I'm trying to find like what so-called pound the pavement, it is not like what I was taught at all. I go into the business and they tell me, Oh, go on our website and see if we have anything. Text hire to this number. Take your smartphone and scan his QR code.

SPEAKER_02 14:35

It's crazy. It is so crazy.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Uh I think it's one time I applied for like a department, uh a job at a department store in Georgia. I was living in Georgia at the time. Then I had to move back to Mobile, Alabama, and it and that, and I remember that department store called me, but I already have left town and it and I applied for that department position a year earlier. A year. And they were just barely calling you. Yeah, a year. And also, there's one time I applied for like a fast food restaurant when I was in Georgia, and I not only uh I uh I had applied for uh you did like the whole online application thing, but they also had some kind of assessment thing as well.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Okay they wanted to like test you before you got in, like some kind of assessment.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Okay, that's interesting. Or department store. And that assessment thing that was for a well-known fried chicken place a place you know, uh I'm not gonna say its name, but they really do love that chicken, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

They love it.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Yeah, there's a whole it was a whole chicken sandwich war about seven years ago because it they sent because it just came out with a chicken sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Wow. And then the two worrying things that would be a story right there on its own.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

All that conflict over two pieces of bread, a fried chicken breast, pickles and mayonnaise. Like, is that good? You want to kick somebody in the hand? It's so good. Like, dude, I'm gonna see a picture of like she looked and like was sitting like behind a restaurant and she looked exhausted, and Pete and the like fast food workers and the customers getting into fights and the line was long.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

Yeah, that's just crazy. Oh my gosh. Over this ridiculous what people will fight over with so not important than life, and then it can't remind me of a point from this book right here.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Let me try to find it. Yes, like, for example, let me let you know, like my granny, my maternal grandmother, she rests in peace. She said she in her lifetime, she said she was from Jackson, Mississippi, but she was really from like burnt cane sugar, I think, Mississippi. There, where like a section of town. And this is like she says something about like how somebody died over, for example, uh this poem about to read now. It's called Nickel in a Pigfoot. Okay. I mean, I I I I'm waiting on dated breath there. Whether it is a big deal or a little deal, simple or complicated, conflict can really explode. Somebody can say the wrong thing. Even a gold apple started a whole war once, no matter what to cause the final straw, somebody could end up dead. It could be something simple, like a nickel and a pigfoot. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Nickel and a pigfoot. Yeah, or a chicken sandwich. So yeah. Like you're bringing up the apple from Greek mythology there. That's awesome. Beautiful to tie it all together, just tie it all these generations of the ridiculousness that we think that we fight over after.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

The little thing, all because uh one go apple, a whole war story, and thousands of people and everything else. And this origin horse.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

Yep, and then Iliade in the Odyssey.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

And yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Oh my goodness, it is amazing what one little thing can change in our lives and how we move forward. What are some other things that you write about in your in your poetry or in your stories?

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Well, like the topics, for example, they're about different things. Like this book is about the arts, blackness, 21st century issues. You might even find some pacifique points. While this one right here, it's about race, religion, freedom, and even a tribute point to one of my inspirations, uh poetic inspirations, isn't mine find some quotes by yours truly and well-known people, and all credit goes to the well-known people.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

I love it. That's awesome. I love that you're you're exploring all the different issues and ideas and being able to share those with people in that way and stuff like that. So, what your current works then, you've got the true crime one, the hallmark, romance rom-com.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Well, I don't know what's it gonna be. I know the first one's gonna be like, oh, I mean, hold on, the first one, but that no one I just need to figure out what kind of romance is gonna be, and also get some like character ideas and settings, and also what the wedding clothes look like, what the reception's gonna be like, like the setting of these weddings, no, like what the dress code is.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Yeah, fancy or all the way or mix up simplicity of the like elotement or courthouse. Uh and have fun with that. Are we are you trying to get it out by Christmas time this year, or is that your hope, or what are we working on?

SPEAKER_00 20:34

That could be a hope. I'm trying, I'm still trying to like for the past few years. I'm in working on that while we're promoting these two books, doing these podcast interviews and other ways I can promote my books. I have been working on that third book I just mentioned, Make Money While Sitting on Your Ass. Ain't no Nonsense Guy to Getting Paid. I had to do research on that one.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

And that takes time, that's for sure. Yes, before I'm dead, like there have been authors who never got to finish their books. Yeah, because like the for example, the autobiography of Malcolm X. Well, he knew how his story ended, and we know how his story ended, and Alex Haley had to finish the story, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

Oh, yeah, I remember that one. Yeah. I'm going in right at the end of that. Such a powerful story there, too, man. Yeah. Well, I hope you're not going anywhere anytime soon because I want to hear all these stories from you.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

And yes, I get more to go. Yeah, and also with this company from Nigeria called Precious Digital Marketing Agency, writ written by Precious Al Gilady Gillian. I hope I got his name right. We've been discussing like the promotion of other works and trying to get like a website for me together and other things.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Very good. That sounds excellent.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

He made my low that company made my logo. He the cup didn't like my book promos and my trailers that you might find on my social medias.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

That's awesome. I love that it's international too, because I think your books and your ideas, I think every book, but especially when you're talking about some of the social issues you're talking about stuff, are great for going international and sharing your story with everyone.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yes, I have been on podcasts from not only from the United States. I remember this man, he was stationed. I think it was either South Korea or South Africa, one in Denmark, uh, a podcast, like from hash was from Denmark, and there was one who was from like the Pakistan, Made's time zone, Nigeria, maybe India or Australia, and I forget what other countries.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

That's awesome. I love that you're working to get your work out there because I think it's important that everyone in the globe realize that we're all facing a lot of the same things we can learn from each other. And when we're not facing the same things, it's okay how to understand each other. And I think that's a great way to do it.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

Yes, especially since the there was this video from this man's like Yaspreet Singh and his YouTube channel called Morality Mindset is like the like business become more globalized now.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Mm-hmm. Yeah, everyone's a lot more interconnected than we used to be, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Yes, for example, it was about this video I just mentioned, it was about like either like it came to like starting your own business, is like better than getting a job. Because, like, for example, with my blogs and my other endeavors, I didn't really have to pay that much to get started. And also, like the competition is much bigger now. Like, for example, not only you're trying to compete for a job in your local community, but all over the world. Even like the like with younger generation, when they're trying to go look for a job now, they're up and also mention another part of their competition is AI and senior citizens because that retirement probably ain't enough to live on.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Yep. And it's so funny because even when you put in your applications, the AI is going through it before you yes, like that.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

A person won't hire you aggregate and wood. And also, I have a stepmother who was from Malaysia. We would probably could meet for the same job before we even met. I didn't know each other.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, the job market nowadays, it's so funny because as a teacher, they're always telling the kids, oh, you gotta do all these things and you gotta plan for college. And I'm like, guys, no, no, no, no, no. College is not always the way anymore. And you're just, you know, you gotta find what works best for you.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Yeah, I remember before I before after I graduated from high school, I went to community college. Then I transferred to university. Probably the best thing I did, because you know, I heard like a two-year college, like community college, it's like a little bit cheaper than the four-year university. And also I went to like a public research university, you know, it's not like the Ivy League schools, but those are like private institutions and they're expensive too. And I remember when I graduated, I had to pay like around 50,000 or 40,000 in loans until those loans get forgiven.

unknown 25:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Well, and that's why I keep telling myself you're gonna get the same degree from a junior college for that associate, but everyone has to get the same classes for why pay more for it. It's like and even back now, they can even take those classes in high school. And I'm like, take them because you're gonna get both high school and college credit for it, and graduate with that associate's or most of it, because then you're not gonna have to worry about it. And but yeah, the job market's not what it used to be, and it's very, very different.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Yeah, and also like with kids who probably who have to work their way through college. I remember before uh like I had a roommate and a friend of hers when I was in living in the dorms, like before I got my own like private dorm, she talked about there was like a girl upstairs, you know, selling her goodies to pay her way through college, even though the university I graduated from, even though it's in the suburbs, I didn't, it's one of the most I thought the arcway is one of the most dangerous in the country. Like, for example, the dorm that I was living across from me, like where I was living, like I wasn't there for the summer semester, but somebody got killed over there. And I had some clothes stolen from the laundromat laundry room of the dorm, even though I forget how many dorms there were, but they were like about three or four dry six dryers and about four washers and all them people. It was before it got torn down and built like a new dorm in this place, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

That was kind of after I graduated when they tore it down.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Yeah, sometimes things aren't as safe or as good as we are told they.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

Yeah, and also like this different need to let the like who like getting ready to graduate from high school about what options they have. There's the two-year university, the four-year university, the a job, start a business, the military. And did you know a thing in the military? Did you know like the army you're talking about? Trying to like the age, like for enlistment, like the what up age 42. Like you're that desperate. And often when the pandemic happened, didn't you know when time pandemic was happening? There was also it was like the first like the life in my own lifetime, a first time where people actually quit their jobs. Like, but yeah, every time there's like an economic kind of crisis or downturn, I know a lot of people lose their jobs, but I never know for them people who quit. Yeah. It's like like this, cheat the teacher shortage. Yeah, they were like it's just like you like look, come on, look, we'll get you raised. It was there's a tweet, like, can you read? Can you write? And you know how to count.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Yeah. Well, they've gotta hold you gotta hold on to what you've got. I mean, you don't give up on something just because things are hard, and that's so that's such a different mindset nowadays for people. It's just oh, it's hard. I'm gonna just yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

And I was thinking to tip pay teachers more money too. My mom, she was a teacher for 20 years until she retired.

unknown 28:44

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

And also it's just certain like teachers gotta take on other like side hustles.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Yep, thank you. I will say that it's been an interesting journey being a teacher, and things have definitely changed. And they say there's a shortage, but yet right now, at least where I'm living in Utah, every time a teacher's leaving right now, they're not replacing a lot of times. They're just making the class sizes bigger because they don't want to rehire someone, or they'll only hire new grads because they are cheaper and they can hire two for the price of a more experienced teacher. Even though they know that new grad is probably not gonna make it past three years, because most of them don't anymore. And it's like they don't want to pay for the experience, but yet they want a good teacher, and they it's like, oh my goodness, it's so frustrating, and and then the kids aren't the same as they used to be at all.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Well, but every like young person generation, they're not the same, they never are the same. We shouldn't be, right? Like for it could remind me from this book, like certain feel like of poems. It's called of youth. It's like the music of youth, fashion of youth, tech of youth. Let me see what else is here. Oh, hair of youth.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

That one you can trace quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

Yeah, like for example, and also like the technology kind of integrated a little bit more in the educational field. It's probably like different from back when my mom, she was like, it was like 1966. She was around 12 years old when she wanted to become a teacher.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Boy has the she was like in the sixth grade at the time, and boy has things changed in like the last few decades. Like I remember when I was going to school, I remember computer lab.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Just barely getting put in the school, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Okay, let me uh one of these calls, it's called tech of youth. Older generations always have trouble, even and often need the assistance of younger generations, even though they were inventions by those who came before. They think they think young ones are addicted to technology, that it's a waste of time. They don't really have a full understanding, probably think it's evil. But they all well, that has always been said about my greatest grandparents, motion pictures in radio, like they're we're born like my mom's paternal grandparents, they were born in the greatest generation. My boomer parents, television, my stepmama and cousin X, beepers and video games. They're from the they were born in generation X, and my Y, Generation Y, also known as millennials, social media and internet.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

True. We every generation spaced it, no matter what the technology is, it's always a thing that can come up. And it can be frightening, I think, and exciting and exhilarating all at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Yeah, like so with something like, for example, I remember music videos for being blamed for something, television we blamed for something, even right now with social media being blamed for something. Oh, emotion pictures and the radio, like some kind of new technology out there. Some blame's gonna have some kind of a blame.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Yeah. When it's not the technology, it's how it's being used and who is using it. And tech is just tech. That's for sure. And we can do great things with it like this and have conversations and spread our word around the world, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Yeah, it's like for example, have you read the book 1984 from George Orwell?

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Love that book.

unknown 32:36

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, well, it has a thing called the telescreens where like the tell like it like talk back to you. And also like what we're doing like right now, well, it kind of was like maybe like a predictor of Zoom, I think.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Right? Or and and anything else. I when I'm watching like the older Star Trek, and I'm reading the older books like Fahrenheit 451 and 1984, it's so crazy to see. I'm like, oh my goodness, this was before all of this technology, and now we have it all. I'm like, is it a good thing or a bad thing?

SPEAKER_00 33:11

And also like the little cell phones, kind of like a precursor of those slip phone films, whatever, and like probably the 1960s version of Star Trek. Yeah, the little the yeah, yeah, and it was innovative for his time because the cast is more integrated, and it was one of one of the first interracial kisses on television, but they weren't really the first. I think it was like I love Lucy, yeah, like her Lucy the Both husband at the time, Desi Arnez, even though he had lighter skin, he was Cuban.

unknown 33:45

Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Yeah, it's crazy, but and how much it's brought people together and yet can still divide us so much sometimes, too. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Like, for example, you remember Nat King Cole? Yes, yeah, like people like in the South or whatever, they were like offended to see a man that dork on television. They had to put makeup on him and it it didn't really look good.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

That's just sad. It's sad to me. I know they didn't a lot of them didn't know better, and a lot it's but it still just makes me so sad. What they missed out on the beauty and the great things that we all missed out on. We're still missing out on by dividing ourselves and judging people.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

It may not be on color anymore, it might be on other things, but like somebody's weight, somebody's disability the like the like colorhythm. I think we need more times to come together, which yes, I hope I hope we yeah, like for it kind of remind me of like, for example, my like in night in 1981, there was a there's a like an avenue named after him in Moba, Alabama. His name was Michael Donald. He was one of like the last black people like in court history to be lynched. It was like like a few years before she met my had my sister, met my dad, and had me. That he that dad, because of the racism he experienced from his job, he got a job out from Mobile, Alabama. My mom delayed it for a year, she did not want to move to Mobile, Alabama because of that case, right? That's a good arnie. Because of racism, my mom did not want to come to Mobile, Alabama, but the racism at his job, because you know the Caucasian people that he trained got promoted over him. We came here.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Wow. Well, I think the Lord puts us where we need to be, I guess, and we just go and we just do it, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Right.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Yeah, that's what it is. Well, I am so excited for your work and what you're working on, and I can't wait to see it get out to the world. And I hope we get to see things coming soon with your other stuff that you're working on. Because I'm excited to hear this Noelle tools and see how that story comes out. And I also want to read this true crime story that's sounds very intriguing to me. Now I'm gonna have to go look at it.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Yeah, and this poetry peril book. I'm trying to work on that.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Very good. Where can we follow you? Where can we find you to follow your journey and keep up to date and know when your things are coming out?

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Well, I do have a link tree link where you'll find my social medias on there because that link really does sums it up of what where I am on social media.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Very cool, and I will put it in the comments below, everyone, or in the description below.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Yes, I'll remember to email it to you.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

That would be great too. Yeah, I think I've got it in both places, but always get to follow up with me on that. Make sure I've got the right link. That's for sure. Well, awesome. And so your books can be found on Amazon and hopefully on other outlets.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

I'll try to get mine. I'm still learning more about the about being uh uh like self-published indie author. Me too.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

There's a lot to learn and a lot of things. I'm like, it's a full-time job on top of my full-time job. So yeah, it can be exhausting sometimes, but it's worth it, right? We got to get our work out there. So very cool. Well, everyone, it has been a pleasure to talk with you, Waterfall. And I hope everyone goes and checks out your books and that we follow you and support you and get to see more of you as you get and when those books come out. Let me know and we'll get on. We'll talk about those books and get you launching and promoting those when they're coming out too. Do you have any last words of anything you want a message you want to leave with us before you leave today?

SPEAKER_00 37:50

Well, I haven't said this a while. I have said it at previous interviews, like give credit where it's due or they will sue.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

And give credit where it's due too for you, because you're doing a lot of great work.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

And thank you.

SPEAKER_02 38:04

Nobody can see you on being you. So that's awesome. Thank you guys, everyone. And check us out next time on Roundy's Rant Wives and Reviews and go check out Waterfall and all of her work. Thank you guys, have a great day.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

Bye bye.