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Jaden Ivy, Colin Kaepernick & the situations that define men.
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What do Jaden Ivey and Colin Kaepernick have in common—and what do their situations say about men today?
In this episode, we break down the realities behind both of their situations and use them as a starting point for a bigger conversation about expectations placed on men. From public perception to personal responsibility, we’re talking about how different paths can still lead to the same pressure—especially when it comes to providing and what society expects from men.
Are men judged by what they do, what they have, or what they can provide? And has that standard ever really changed?
This episode goes beyond headlines and gets into the deeper conversation.
🎙️ Topics we cover:
- The situations surrounding Jaden Ivey & Colin Kaepernick
- Public perception vs reality
- The pressure on men to provide
- Expectations placed on modern men
- What these situations reveal about masculinity today
💬 Let us know in the comments—What do these situations say about men today?
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It to prove that it was clean, and people was like, ah, hex no, I'm not believing that.
SPEAKER_16They was in the shabby situation.
SPEAKER_01Hey, man. I'm crying. I'm done.
SPEAKER_16Bullshit.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_16I'm just joking. No, Corey, but this. You answer your own question, man. Hey.
SPEAKER_03Welcome back to At Will. It's me, your host, Antoine Williams, the dude, here with my bros.
SPEAKER_06What's the deal, man? It's Jay Pryor, man. We're back in the cut, back with another episode, man.
SPEAKER_03Yes, sir. Gang gang. That's what you gotta say. That's it.
SPEAKER_16He said they know who he is.
SPEAKER_03That's good. That's it.
SPEAKER_16Announce yourself, man.
SPEAKER_03I don't need to announce myself. They know who I am. Somebody, man. Who's that dude who's running this show? The showrunner. Who's that? You gonna say my name enough? Oh. Alright, dude. Pause.
SPEAKER_16Hey, he ready to get got to him.
SPEAKER_07No, that is. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_16That ain't for me, man. Ain't no boy. I ain't taking it. You don't make me say it.
SPEAKER_07I've been referring to you though.
SPEAKER_16Pause, man. Anyways, man, we back for another episode, man.
SPEAKER_03Man, how y'all we been, man?
SPEAKER_16Oh, wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_03We start the episode. You know we start. Nah, man. Nah, man. She's not a guest. She's family. She is part of the At-Wheel crew.
SPEAKER_12Behind the scenes.
SPEAKER_03Yes, she's behind the scenes. But we got our favorite lady, part of the crew. Sierra. CP, the other CP.
SPEAKER_14Here we go.
SPEAKER_03Prior.
SPEAKER_14Hello, y'all.
SPEAKER_03Entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_14Oh, Lord.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna talk about that later. You know what I'm saying? Co-founder. No, I'm not gonna say co-founder, the founder of God's hands on me.
SPEAKER_13Shout out to the brand.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, shout out to the brand. But yeah, how you doing?
SPEAKER_13I'm doing great. Phenomenal week. Productive week. Productive week? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. What about you, man?
SPEAKER_06I had a smooth week, man. It was pretty. It went by quick for real. Yeah, we're gonna talk about your week later. Yeah, we got a little story. I'm gonna we talked about it earlier, but I'm gonna bring it up because I want the world to know. I ain't gonna say no names though, but yeah. Overall, though, my week was smooth though. I'm on that first ship now, so I've been getting up at the me too, man. I love crack of dawn. I'm a morning. But it but it I ain't gonna lie, it's been working out though for real. Like I get to get out once I leave work. I'm already up. I'm getting some stuff done after work instead of just sleeping the whole day, getting up late. It's definitely better. I definitely like first shift way better.
SPEAKER_03You get your good your right amount of sleep, do you feel?
SPEAKER_06Nah, I feel like I I'm still waking up a little tired for real, but I I'm I'm up though. I'm I'm functionable. Yeah, you be up too late. I do. I gotta get up early, though. Sometimes I gotta get I'm not used to getting up that early. I know. Even when I was in school, I used to I used to always be late. I ain't gonna lie. Last minute. For real.
SPEAKER_03I ain't gonna lie. For real. What about you, Deuce? How was your week, man? No, guys. I was chilling. Oh, he was. Chilling. All right, so first Friday, well, we had last day was the school was Thursday. I'm bugging. Yeah. Uh then we had no school Friday. So then Friday, me and Ari went to Pitts, Pittsburgh. Like a day. I had a nice time. A day and a half. It was fun. Uh, and then came back, and boy, when I tell you, I was chilling. Yeah. I was chilling. Shout out to all y'all. I was able to sleep in, my boy. Yeah. How long you got off? I'm going night time uh Monday. The whole week. Yeah, yeah. Whole week of uh extra day. Relaxing. Yeah. And gaming. You ain't sleep like that in a minute, huh? Not I ain't been ever sleeping like that in a minute. I stayed up whenever I wanted to. Yeah. They had no alarm clock you had to wake up to. Yeah. Nah, everything was turned up. Yeah, you needed that because you're gonna sleep, man. You only sleep like four hours a week.
SPEAKER_15Oh heck, nah.
SPEAKER_03That's how you you know. That's your brother. But nah, man. That is true. Yeah. Yeah, we all had I had a good week too, man. Same thing. Just chill. I mean, I had a very productive week for sure. Like, eating-wise, I stayed consistent with my eating, working out, all that stuff. I had a good week at I feel down. I know I'm down. I know I'm down. I did weigh myself. I ain't gonna put my stuff out there because I don't want to put it out there.
SPEAKER_06Hey, it's about to be that time where you about to say you take your shirt off. Cold plunge.
SPEAKER_03We in April right now, man.
SPEAKER_12Cold plunge.
SPEAKER_03We in April right now.
SPEAKER_14We still waiting on that cold plunge.
SPEAKER_06Exactly. What's going on with that?
SPEAKER_03Why do you have to bring it up?
SPEAKER_09I'm sorry. Dang.
SPEAKER_06I have to come up with a different punishment, bro. Because you getting done.
SPEAKER_03All I'm saying is, because you know we got this trip coming up in July. We do get the trip. That's what he told us. That's what he told us. Shirt is off. No, no. I don't want to see it.
SPEAKER_05But I didn't say pause. Pause. I didn't say it's going to be for you.
SPEAKER_04I said, I don't want to see it. I'm not taking the shirt off for you to see. Hey, I'm saying you should be comfortable, Roger.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna be comfortable. Cody.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Shirt off. Just be I'm just you got four months.
SPEAKER_14Oh, three months, technically.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna lock in on details, man. I'm a well, I know you say you have to do your three months, but yeah, I give you those details.
SPEAKER_06No, I still got I still got my uh my PTO days. You just gotta let me know as soon as possible. I got the days for you. I need them. Hey SAP. I got you. All right, bad.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna get some footage too, eh? I'm gonna get footage for sure. We're gonna show y'all.
SPEAKER_13I'm gonna get footage. I don't know about you.
SPEAKER_03It's been a crazy week this week, though, man. Especially like that uh Jada Ivey situation, though. Yeah. What y'all think about that, man? Dang, is this career over? Nah.
SPEAKER_06No, I don't think so. It's gonna be a while until he gets something going, though.
SPEAKER_12Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I feel like it's it's definitely at a heart for sure. No, because he's in the media too much for the wrong reasons.
SPEAKER_09He's gonna lie too much.
SPEAKER_06For the wrong reasons. Usually when you in like, usually when you in like when you high in sports like that, like you ain't really supposed to have that much connection with the media unless you like the face of the league. You know, yeah, unless it's like and it's it gotta be something positive.
SPEAKER_14It can't be in the media for the wrong reason.
SPEAKER_03They're all figures though. They all think it does.
SPEAKER_06But you gotta look at how the NBA is and the NFL is. They uh you know they a big brand, so they're not gonna have nobody that's gonna be. So if we talk about something else and we steady paying you and keep, you know, yeah, having you played, that means we that's gonna look at them to that as if they represent that too. And they're not doing that because they the ones making all the money for real. They paying him. So yeah, he had a heart for many.
SPEAKER_14I feel bad. I feel bad for him.
SPEAKER_06Why do you feel bad?
SPEAKER_14It's because just like the scope of how the NBA is as a conglomerate of how what they tolerate and what they don't tolerate. And I mean, we all know the do's and don'ts, like we know, and we're not inside the league, but it's just like there's certain areas that you cannot touch on from a certain standpoint because that's what it is. Like you can't talk about certain things and then think like there's no gonna be no repercussions from it. Like you saw the whole thing that happened with Kyrie Irving, like that was a a mess. And now you see what he Jaden's doing. Like to me, I this is just my personal opinion, it is due to some type of mental health, and like you know, like especially with him dealing with his injury and then him recovering from that, then getting traded, and now he's in a whole lot of.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_14But but then now him in a whole different area and just still like battling that and recovering, and then for this to happen is just unfortunate. I don't know what he was battling with, like, you know, through that, but he's been open about it, like he struggled with it, and then of course he found his faith in it, and of course, you declaring that faith, you come up with your own. Like when you're brand new into the faith, you start discovering things, learning things that may not be true, or you know, you're discovering, you're still in that. But once you start becoming more vocal about it, you have to be careful because, like we said, all eyes are on you once you're in that situation. And unfortunate, it's like once you're in the NBA, it's sad, but you're now held to a different standard than your average Joe. So you can't just say anything you want because now it's a billion-dollar product, and you're like, now you're representing us, we don't want that, so we're cutting ties with you. And even though we all have our opinions of like what the NBA is today, because of what they will tolerate of that's in the league, that players done domestic violence, been caught in so many different cases, and yet they're still playing, like they'll tolerate that. But of course, Jaden didn't cause any harm to anybody but verbally, supposedly. So, therefore, it's just like it's it's a sad situation. I don't think his career is over, but like Jermaine just said, I think it's at a halt.
SPEAKER_03It's at a big halt, but I I okay, so say what do you guys think his motive was? I mean, I think I think it's often like ignorance. I think I I think it's like it's off of his ignorance.
SPEAKER_14He's in a mental state right now that's not healthy.
SPEAKER_03But you said something you said something like how we all kind of experience it, especially being new. Yeah, new in the faith.
SPEAKER_14Like I know multiple people who have experienced that before where they finally they're new in the faith and then they start exploring things and everything's to the extreme. Like, for instance, like drinking, you can't drink, you're a sinner. Yeah, you can't do this, you're a sinner, you can't do this, you're a sinner. Like newsflash, we're we're all sinners, regardless if you like it or not. Like we can profess the faith all we want, but we are sinners. We have to repent daily. Like everything. So, like one thing that I saw that he commented that someone said, like, I'm praying for you, and he's like, God doesn't hear sinners' prayers, and I'm like, bruh. Like so that right there let me know where he was mentally and uh where his posture was faith in faith. So I'm just like, Oh, we're dealing with that. So to me, I'm not gonna say he was dealing with a religious psychosis type of situation, but you can tell he's dealing with a lot, and it's just unfortunate because of where it's now leaving him at and talked about as.
SPEAKER_03So I mean I the part I didn't like about it is how he calling out other people. Basically how he called out Steph and about his I I just don't like that. That's what your own story.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I feel like with that, like he just making it worse on himself.
SPEAKER_14You making it worse, and you like And that's why you say you're gonna be in that hall, because you can't be talking about main people and think they're just gonna like it's uh what they call the Good Boys Club, in a way, like you start talking about one of their main bigger products.
SPEAKER_06Talking about the you know, and then you in the you in you in all the wrong blogs, like you're in all the wrong ones, you're making the headlines for the wrong ones.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and that's the reason why I think his career is it is over.
SPEAKER_06It could be, but it kind of like reminds me, it's not the same scenario, but it kind of reminds me of like in the NFL with like Colin Kaepernick, like when some stuff he has some stuff going on, but you just but you look at he him now, like he's still not doing nothing. So it might it might be like he can't he got paid, that's why he settled.
SPEAKER_03He settled, but the the but you brought to that man kneeled, all he did is kneel. It was suggested to him by soldiers.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but it's it's your opinion, though.
SPEAKER_03You under that big that big big brand or that big you offended the right people.
SPEAKER_14Yeah, there's certain groups you cannot offend.
SPEAKER_03And and it's unfortunate career done. Cap yeah, that that was his only that was his victory formation. What year was that?
SPEAKER_14That was 2017. No, it was over with after that. No, no, it was 16. That was 16. I was I was in college still.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, so yeah, man.
SPEAKER_14It was trying, but I I think he's he's we all know that once you settle with the like once you settle with uh entity. I mean that's that's that's that's over with anyway. That was a long time.
SPEAKER_06I remember game check. I remember that.
SPEAKER_08You're paid.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I remember that because that's when I was still in high school, and people was like, they had the you had the option to, you know, kneel or you had the option to stand during that time. Yeah, that was that was. I was still in I was still in high school during that time.
SPEAKER_14It was still a like a weird time around sports because then everybody now and during that phase, like during like the basketball games, even track meets, football games, any sporting event, like everybody started looking around like what are people doing during the national anthem?
SPEAKER_03Who's dealing?
SPEAKER_14It was like who's kneeling, who's not paying attention, who's sitting down, who doesn't have their hat off, who doesn't have their hand across their chest, who's paying like it was just it's all optics because I always tell it, like, we always say, like, people who make a big deal out of the national anthem really are just like to me crazy. Because it's just like, do you think everybody in that stadium, like people are out who are not inside, like they're in the stadium, but they're not, they're in like the concourse, but they're not actually on like you know, the stadium part. Um, do you think all those people in the concourse are stopping when they're playing the national anthem and putting their hands over their hearts? And you know what I mean? They're not. Like people are still walking, talking, drinking, doing the eating, like like that's why I said y'all, y'all not serious. Like, people people are at home watching the city.
SPEAKER_03Life go on regardless, bro.
SPEAKER_14Yeah, yeah, so that's just the thing with that, but it's why you say why you say that, though, Correct.
SPEAKER_03Because people think that you need to just honor the flag and honor our country, and da da da. Like, bro, it's just a symbol. Nobody cares about the symbol. It's not what it actually is. Like, you know, like the flag does nothing for either of us, it's just a symbol of what the country is. Supposed to represent. Right. It's not something that you're supposed to just celebrate and all this other stuff. Like, it is what it is. They'll paint a picture about you if you don't honor.
SPEAKER_06But I feel what you're saying, though. Like, with Sierra, she said, like, people still walking around doing their daily thing. You know what I mean? But it's other people that want to be seen, you know, might take a near, you know, not maybe respected or whatever.
SPEAKER_03So it's so y'all think Capital did that for attention?
SPEAKER_14No, he did it for to me, he did it for the right reason. He did it too. The thing is, his peaceful protest was meant to bring attention to what he was doing it for. Was again the state of the country for African Americans with police brutality. So it's just like he got your attention right, but then the people who's like, how dare he, like, it got turned into something that it shouldn't have. But again, that's just the what you say, the consequences of playing, like playing that game. Like, it's a dangerous game to play. Once you start hitting into political topics, social topics, you you have to just understand there are risks that come with that. And to me, like with the Jaden situation, you opening your mouth and like religious thing is a religious discussions per se is a dangerous topic to talk about, especially when it attacks certain communities. So it's just like we all do have our beliefs, but again, once you start attacking that said belief of a different community, then you gotta understand there's risks.
SPEAKER_03That is course.
SPEAKER_02We're not gonna go there, man.
SPEAKER_03We're not gonna go there. You ain't gonna get us.
SPEAKER_06You're not gonna get used to that. I feel like if yeah, if he wasn't under that, if he wasn't under the NBA, if he was No, he it would have been no problem. It wouldn't have even blew up like that.
SPEAKER_14It wouldn't even that do rants like that every day again. It's just because again, you have to understand who there's a certain standard that comes when you're with a part of a certain business or entity. Like it's the end of the day, you can't say certain things. And it's unfortunate, I agree. It's just like they always say, like, well, it's different with the presidents and now, but it's just like you can't say certain things, you can't do certain things. Same thing with like how pastors are, they can't do certain things, they can't say certain things. Yeah, same thing with uh if whoever you hold in a high regard, for instance, they just they're they're gonna be seen in a different view. Like you can't do certain things, and that's what's happening with him. It's just like this happens every day, but due to who you are and who you're a part of, we have to cut ties.
SPEAKER_03That's what I didn't understand about it. It's like, man, dude, it's it's nothing special that he was doing. It was like, man, like like she said, you can look online, you can see this type of rant. All types. It's like, man, where's it coming from? And why would he risk his career?
SPEAKER_06But do you feel like maybe he just he wanted his word to be heard though? Or do you feel like it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't important for what he just gave up?
SPEAKER_03Man, he was trying to exercise that first amendment, bro. Amendment, bro. Stop speech. So you're gonna defend the bullet.
SPEAKER_14The thing is, again, you can do whatever you want. Us as humans can do whatever we want, but just know there will be consequences regardless if you like it or not. Not saying you can't do it, but just know there's gonna be a consequence to it. And that's its consequence. Again, if you're associating with an entity, best believe we have every right to cut ties with you. Not saying, like, hey, we love you, but for the brand's sake, right?
SPEAKER_06We can't, yeah, yeah, we're not, we're not gonnao many billions to be to be risking for that.
SPEAKER_14We got we got certain uh sponsors and people who are part of that community and they ain't feeling it. It's just like how we always said the other community that you can't talk about. The whole Kai, y'all know Kyrie situation. Y'all saw what happened to Kanye. Like you can't talk about certain things because they they're the ones who's controlling the checks.
SPEAKER_03All I'm saying, why can't black folk get like those two communities, bro? You're right. Get that get that support, get that, yeah, get that backing.
SPEAKER_06They don't click up like that.
SPEAKER_14It's well, the thing is, they don't stick together like that. But if you think about it, we are the minority in this cut in this country, first off.
SPEAKER_03See, we are the majority. We we everything is ran on black success.
SPEAKER_14You hear me? I'm talking about numbers-wise.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_14I'm talking about numbers-wise. At the end of the day, we do have a lot of cultural influence. We influence a lot, but again, as soon as that person can flip that coin and you know, claim their community, we're outnumbered. Period. Like, we don't control the majority. We do have some, you know, power, but at the same time, when it comes, numbers are everything. You have to think about it. It's just logistics, and you have to think about that. Like, we're outnumbered.
SPEAKER_03Man, we need to start acting up like France be acting up.
SPEAKER_14Like here, go up across, go to the motherland, then we good. Right.
SPEAKER_03Right, you know. Well, if you go over to France, the way they be protesting, but they get stuff done. They be lighting buildings on fire. They be lighting buildings on fire. Everything we'll do that here. We weak, we weak. Oh, oh yeah, we go, we are going to jail.
SPEAKER_13They don't go to jail over there? No, it's they get it done. Like it's so many. France?
SPEAKER_14No, they're they're like radical.
SPEAKER_03Their whole country comes together and does a protest or riots.
SPEAKER_14What was the protest they did with the river cord?
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, during the Olympics, bro.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They uh they they shat.
SPEAKER_11In the river.
SPEAKER_16He did not, he did not, he did not. He said shat he shat on him.
SPEAKER_14No, the river, like remember the river was the river was a just a color. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What? No, they legit filled the river with poop for months.
SPEAKER_07No way.
SPEAKER_14They shouldn't go for real.
SPEAKER_16Yes, they shouldn't look for real, man.
SPEAKER_14No, look it up. Because they were talking about that on Twitter, and then um they also began to talking about it again. I'm around the Olympics, and then I remember because they said Brant then uh invested like millions of dollars to clean it, and then they said that's when was it the president or who is it, a prime minister, whatever it is, they swam in it to prove that it was clean, and people was like, ah, hex no, I'm not believing that.
SPEAKER_16They was in the shabby situation.
SPEAKER_01Hey, man. I'm crying. I'm done. Bullshit. Okay.
SPEAKER_16I'm just joking.
SPEAKER_03No, Corey, but you asked your own question, man. Hey, why do you think black people don't get the why why can't our community come together like that? Because the world hates us. Wow. I want to distracted that.
SPEAKER_14Yo, what's up? Why can't we come together? I mean, the thing is sometimes everybody has to be on one accord for people to come together about something. And uh in our community, unfortunately, we have like a we have a lot of different silos. We do. Like, for instance, like you have the colorism issue of amongst ourselves. We have um the No that is the colorism.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the light skin, light skin, light skin, light skin.
SPEAKER_14Like we have those, and then of course we pin against each other in a lot of those areas, and then the socialism aspect about you know, the impoverished and then the one that's making it, and then again, we also get upset about like if we think those that who did make it are not giving back enough, or you know, it's just a lot of back and forth within. So until we all can come to a um agreement about something, then we're not gonna move forward in the way that we should be moving forward.
SPEAKER_03And people fall for that hush money.
SPEAKER_14That's what it is, man.
SPEAKER_03Hush money, man.
SPEAKER_06I just feel like you gotta benefit everybody for everybody to come together. You gotta benefit everyone. Sometimes it's what they say, too logical. You're not finna just go out and protest if it ain't if it's not benefiting you.
SPEAKER_03Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everybody You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06So it got it got it gotta it gotta it gotta relate to you for you to do it. So you know everybody, everybody's different. Everybody's yeah, it is selfish, but everybody's their self. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03And you're not I mean, so is that a good or bad thing?
SPEAKER_06Uh it could be good and bad.
SPEAKER_03It's that we get something out of it, even though it if we don't if we don't necessarily get something out of it, but it it it can make a big impact on the world. But you don't
SPEAKER_14People are not willing again. Sometimes people just say, I just worry about my household. If it ain't got nothing to do with my household, I'm not putting ourselves in that predicament. And some people, literally, I know some people who are full throttle, like protest in it. I'm just speaking for myself. You won't catch me really unless it's like really pertaining to me. I'm not the type two forthcome and do certain stuff unless it really pertains to me. If I'm not affected by it. But you have those who who are really for the general pop and will, you know, take that step forward for people who can't.
SPEAKER_03So that police brutality. That's uh that was a big one. I mean because it can be any. Shout out to George Floyd.
SPEAKER_11Rest his soul.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, rest his soul. He made it come together. He did bring he did bring black girls together. Shout out to George Floyd.
SPEAKER_06No, that was definitely a crazy error.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't necessarily him. He was just a victim of what happened. But it was that was a crazy error.
SPEAKER_14And I actually after, I don't know how long ago, how long after it was, but I went down there to the memorial because I went to uh Minneapolis. Was it Minneapolis, right? Yeah. Yeah, and saw the memorial, like the painting and just like where all the stuff that happened there, like the looting. Yeah, then the the murals and stuff like that. Like they had like it was for the moment, I don't know if it's still there, but it was like a memorial in a way for people to come there, like pay their respects, and just like it was other things they had there too, for people to just you know to take time and reflect to see like what's happening in the world and where we should be. So it was it was beautiful, but at the same time it was kind of just sad that it's still happening and prevalent in this world. So and that's just what the thing is, that's just what was publicized and televised. Like it's happening every day.
SPEAKER_03Is that the worst case of uh police brutality you've seen? No.
SPEAKER_14What's his name?
SPEAKER_13Uh Rodney King. I mean, I ain't see that, but I saw about it yesterday.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Y'all probably wouldn't, none of y'all was probably here about it.
SPEAKER_12I'm a 90s baby.
SPEAKER_03Oh, shit.
SPEAKER_12That's when it happened. 95.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right. I don't think I know about that.
SPEAKER_06You don't know nothing about Rodney King? I don't think so.
SPEAKER_03The LA riots. Oh, yeah, that LA went down.
SPEAKER_06I probably have seen it. I probably just can't remember that name. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Maybe I was young. They got talking about their things now. Man, I experienced some Rodney King back in my day. No, I know. I ain't gonna lie. No, I I had some bad experience with police, as we know. Okay, let me let me discuss my week. Another thing that happened my week. We we just discussed it. I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_14Pray for 20.
SPEAKER_03Hey, don't don't don't judge me. Listen, okay. So, long story short, because it's gonna I had some fraud situation with my cards or whatever with my so I was in the process of getting a new one. Of course, with the banks, you gotta have some types of forms of ID, right? So I had, of course, I carry my license every day like everybody else. But I also had to give my social security card, have my social security number, of course, to prove who I am. Hush, man.
SPEAKER_09Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03No, the only reason why I want to cut you off. Let me finish the story. Let me finish the story. Let me finish the story. So, anyways, okay. So, yeah. So I had I had a I think I'm so clever, you know. I I created a copy of my social security card, had it on me in my wallet, which got the process going. I got I I and to say, guess what, guys? I got my card. Okay. But uh, yeah, so yeah, I showed it to the bank. The next day, my wallet was stolen.
SPEAKER_14Stolen or you misplaced it. Like there's a difference. I didn't misplace the C. How did somebody steal your wallet? How do you say somebody stole your wallet? You know for a fact. I because you're not gonna be able to do it. You misplaced your misplaced.
SPEAKER_06No, I did not this no, you know why I'm laughing, though. Cause this is not the first time you didn't it's not the first time.
SPEAKER_03No, this ain't the first time I dealt with fraud. But stole the wallet didn't get the first time.
SPEAKER_06Stole the wallet, but like on the fraud tip, like man, somebody just never stole the money. Somebody just took some money off my account, man.
SPEAKER_05Like I remember having a conversation with you about that. Nah, it's the fraud too much.
SPEAKER_03The real question is, why is it that you deal with fraud so much? I know where you go with that.
SPEAKER_16I don't know.
SPEAKER_03What's catchy side?
SPEAKER_05First of all, no. Why don't you a Holy fan?
SPEAKER_03That man Twine got an account, man. I think it was the banks I was dealing with, or whatever. Or I don't know.
SPEAKER_14Keep going.
SPEAKER_03Nah, I don't I don't know. I just want to know. Man, hush, man. Where what where you where you into you going to sketchy gas stations? No, no, sketchy stations. I don't go to sketchy gas stations. It gotta be one of the cleaner ones, the better ones, the bigger ones. That's I'm sorry. I'm very picky on my gas station.
SPEAKER_06So they're stealing your card information from there.
SPEAKER_03I think they did.
SPEAKER_06I think so. Which one did you know? You said now.
SPEAKER_14Because you know they did have that thing at the gas. They said beware of gas stations where you don't enter your car, like, but because they can like tear off the thing at the gas pump or whatever. I haven't seen it. I just seen it online.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I'm thinking that's again.
SPEAKER_14But how do you know somebody stole your wallet? You didn't misplace it.
SPEAKER_03Nah, I'm gonna say somebody stole your wallet. Did you retrace it? The reason why I'm saying somebody stole it, because this never happened to me. And I never lost my wallet my entire life. So, but you know, so what if it just pops up, but you got frauded? Would you feel stupid? I got fraud. That's that's me, that's smarter than those guys are smarter than me. Whoever's cyber, you know, whatever, they they smarter than me. I'm not technology savvy or whatever like that. Technical. So whatever. But nah, I never lost my wallet, man. I always had my ID, and I just happened to have my a copy of my social security card. So I was a little nervous this week.
SPEAKER_14I'm just mad you had, okay. But you said, but you gave a reason why your sex isn't there. That should have came out immediately.
SPEAKER_03I know, I didn't take it out immediately. I was, you know. So whoever got that, hey, whoever got that, yo. Hey, I'm broke.
SPEAKER_10Come on, I'm not about to play with you, bro. I just don't get it though. You have you have to.
SPEAKER_03So let me let me pose a question to you.
SPEAKER_06Y'all never carry two forms of ID on y'all? That's the wrong form of ID, man. You could have you could have carried you you the only ID I would have to do. I mean, mine would be my CPL, but I don't have that yet. You should. I'm oh I'm about to. I'm gonna need it.
SPEAKER_03Hey, one thing I will say though, uh, for a fact, is that you know, either you have two forms of identification, so either your license or something else, or just bring your passport. I should have brought my passport too. I love it. Two or one passport. And at that point, you should have just took your passport. I should have just took my passport. I wasn't thinking, I was just like, all right, man.
SPEAKER_14Like it's okay to bring that like just take it out immediately.
SPEAKER_03I didn't do it.
SPEAKER_14That's one form of ID you don't carry around on a regular Y'all don't judge me in the chat.
SPEAKER_03Please don't judge me. I made a mistake. You being judged hard over here. Yeah, I can deal with these modes over here.
SPEAKER_14I mean, some people feel the need to carry extra forms of ID. I say no, but you know, in the today's times, they always like carry two forms. No, I'm not doing that. Right.
SPEAKER_03They said that.
SPEAKER_14Just my driver's.
SPEAKER_06I say like what I would do is I would like I I got like a picture of it, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_14Like, you know, sometimes I do. I pull right up on my uh I used to do it.
SPEAKER_06It was sometime hard copy, you got something else.
SPEAKER_14My roster picture. I was like, just click my name, you'll see my picture pops up. That's me right there.
SPEAKER_03Your roster.
SPEAKER_14Oh Michigan State roster for track.
SPEAKER_02Chill out. I thought you were talking about your roster. Relax. I'm about to say, dang.
SPEAKER_10Don't y'all. Next question. Next question.
SPEAKER_03There is no roster. Let's just dive into that, man. Let's talk about this. This man Twan got a roster, y'all. I don't have a roster. You see how they you see, I don't have a roster. I'm I'm too focused for that. We got Melanie, Stephanie, Serena, Keisha.
SPEAKER_11They call it hefany.
SPEAKER_03You after the show. Pause.
SPEAKER_05Anyway, man. You can't say nothing about these dudes, man. Y'all fucking.
SPEAKER_02Let's talk about that, man. Let's talk about what? What? Wait a minute. He couldn't wait to get me in there.
SPEAKER_00Come on, man. Oh, the story he told us? Yeah, come on.
SPEAKER_06I should have waited to tell y'all for real.
SPEAKER_00No, that was good though. Yeah, yeah. Very good.
SPEAKER_06Trying to figure out how to start it off again.
SPEAKER_16Play a player.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, my week was smooth though. You know what I mean? To that, to that, to that. Stir it up a little bit. Trying to figure out how do I come on, bro.
SPEAKER_03They want to know.
SPEAKER_06Camera one. Alright. Trying to figure out what's perspective I should put this in. Should I put this all over? Should I put this in my point of view?
SPEAKER_15Your point of view, because this is my point of view. Don't hold back. Let's go, man. Let's get it out there. Give me your story. His story.
SPEAKER_06Alright, anyway. Long story short. Alright. We're gonna cut it down short. Alright. There you go. Anyway, uh, so I was talking to this person, right? Yeah. Come on, man. Later, man. Do they watch? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to, huh? Nah. We go. Alright, so anyway, I was talking to this new person, right? Yeah. Feel me? She bad, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03We ain't putting no names out there.
SPEAKER_06Nobody knows who you're talking about. So anyway, uh I never I have met this person before, but it's been a long time. It's been some years, you know what I mean? So social media kind of communicate through social media.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Eventually started being on the phone a little bit or whatever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Ain't had a date, ain't went out, ain't seen each other, you feel me? In at least years, like two, three years. You know what I mean? So anyway, we on the phone for a couple days, stuff starting to get, you know what I mean? We started to get to know each other a little bit. You know, like the ice, the ice didn't broke over the phone a little bit. You know what I mean? Ice didn't broke. Yeah, ice didn't broke it a little bit. So look comfortable on the phone, you feel me?
SPEAKER_03Now a quick question are you better? Do you love talking on the phone or are you like texting? Are you on the phone?
SPEAKER_06No, I'd rather somebody call me. I'm bad at I'm bad. I'm bad at texting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and the young, yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. I'm bad at texting. Okay, it's hard for me to hold a conversation.
SPEAKER_06Texting all day, every day. It's hard for me to do that. Or voice notes for me. Yeah, facts. So anyway, uh this new person, right? Ooh, so long story short, this person, you know, think that I'm don't say think, Manny. Just big balling, big ballin'. Yeah, so this person thinks I'm yeah, I'm mad like that or whatever. So this woman decided to just, you know, ask me for some money. You feel me?
SPEAKER_14How did she have how did she ask you, Manny?
SPEAKER_06She just requested it. She just requested it.
SPEAKER_03Like I'm being serious. Do you think she really do you? I mean, I'm gonna let you feel the shit.
SPEAKER_06You feel me? If it was a need, you feel me? I got you. You feel me? I don't think it was. I don't know. Okay. Only reason it threw me off though is because I can see it just my girl. I can say, okay, well, you know what I mean? And the amount always matters. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Amount always matters. I ain't I ain't I ain't never feel me linked up with this person. We ain't never not to eat, you feel me? The mount, the mount basically took it.
SPEAKER_03We ain't laid up together. Huh? Is it the amount of situation you're about to enter? Enter. Did you have a mount?
SPEAKER_07No, I didn't know amount down there. No, I didn't know a mount. Let's just say, let's just say wasn't lucrative.
SPEAKER_09Let's just say three figures.
SPEAKER_06Let's just say this is just a couple dollars.
SPEAKER_11A couple dollars. There we go. We'll say a couple dollars.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, this is a couple dollars. Times how much?
SPEAKER_14That's okay, mami.
SPEAKER_06No, but it just threw me off because I don't know.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06This while I said this, but this this why, this why, this why, no, because it goes back to yeah, the man's supposed to take care of this, this, the, this is the moment. Let's go, let's go. Let's go. This is how a man's supposed to leave, you know what I mean? This is this is the energy that I'm supposed to be throwing out. Yeah, but when I got, I don't know, I got I got hit with it and I'm just like how long has this been going on? I got hit with it, I'm just like, uh I sat on it for a little minute. I sat on it for a little minute.
SPEAKER_03So how was you feeling when you sat, was you like, when you skeptical about it, how do you how was you feeling? Was you like, man, is this good work to us?
SPEAKER_06The reason why I felt like this is because the episode that we had, I don't know if it was two episodes before this, but we was talking about men that just paying for stuff and they just you feel me? I thought about it like I thought about it, I thought about it and I'm like, man, we might not even work out. You feel me? We not might, we might not even, it might not, it might not even go far. It might not even go farther than this. She trying to, if she trying to get down on me, you feel me? She think I'm I was thinking about it. I ain't know.
SPEAKER_03You was thinking about actually sending it.
SPEAKER_13Yeah, I was thinking about sending it because you feel me.
SPEAKER_06He likes her in a and some this is like, I don't know, as as you're interested. Yeah, so quick question before you go to the book. And then in the man's the man's about to ask point of view, you don't want to be looked at as you, you not having, you broke. You know, I don't want that on my name.
SPEAKER_03So it's like so do you do you think, and according to jump in, do you think a man should uh should pay the request? Hell no. Why? Why? What do you mean? You're not with you gonna say we're not together. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I'm not gonna do anything for you until you do something for me, too.
SPEAKER_03So see, okay it's it's small pieces that go back and forth before you start doing that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So see, what what is it is that a play for women to test out for is the man a sip?
SPEAKER_06Oh or is he uh yeah, so let me tell me how, tell me like, yeah, Sierra, tell me how I was supposed to, yeah.
SPEAKER_14It's it's the dynamic. Obviously, I I don't know y'all's dynamic or what you may have said to where she may have felt emboldened to or inclined to send a request. Listen, if you have that type of like sometimes you can have dialogue, friendly dialogue, to where he may hint, like, if you need something, I got you, just send the request. Like, there have been conversations where men literally will just straight up and tell you, like, like in that dialogue. But if y'all never had that dialogue, you know, maybe she just depends. But is it is it a thing that women regularly do? I'm gonna say I know some who do.
SPEAKER_03Well, also some guys who like to trickle women like that.
SPEAKER_14Very true as well. That they they they are ego driven with that cash. Like, oh, I did XY, I spent oh yeah, I sent her some bread, I did it. Like, it's not you know, cause some men literally find that to be a confidence builder for them too, to flaunt their money. Like, I don't say most women, but some women are very uh turned on by that, like, oh, he got money, he can do this, this, this, and this. Like, you know, they view him of a value according to his dollar, which should not be that, but depending on what type of woman you are, and if that's how you, you know, rock with certain dudes and you just cause I know some who literally can send a certain request to five dudes and they will all be paid.
SPEAKER_03Five bills.
SPEAKER_14But it's just like no, you to me, if you're at the beginning stages and a conversation has not been had or dialogue that has been had between y'all two to where she could just do that, absolutely not. Like, what are we doing?
SPEAKER_03Hey, I gotta I got some words. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, talk. As I like the quote Oh God, future always say.
SPEAKER_07Oh god.
SPEAKER_03No, then Kuto, I can't even speak. Don't get too comfortable.
SPEAKER_07Don't get too comfortable.
SPEAKER_03That's what it is. I was trying to blake but blake out the cuss words, and my guy chucked up in my words. But don't get too comfortable. But here's the thing some people that determines the next level of No.
SPEAKER_14No, it's not.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, no, I'm saying that's their plate.
SPEAKER_16That's their plate.
SPEAKER_14There, that's not healthy. That's not an okay. That's not healthy.
SPEAKER_03Some women you will use that.
SPEAKER_14No, don't ever put yourself in a situation to where if a girl, if she, if that's the only thing that is a deal breaker for her, if I'm sending a request and you don't pay it, and all of a sudden that tells me everything about you. No, absolutely not. Because there are some horrible men who got some bank and can send you bread's not bank is not nothing to them.
SPEAKER_08Right.
SPEAKER_14So that doesn't tell you anything. But again, communication is key. So if you're if you many, I don't know if you said something, they may have inclined her to like, you know what? Let me let me see what he's talking about. And if, you know, I'm a young dummy. Because if it's random, then kudos to her, because that's bull.
SPEAKER_03But she got big calling for real.
SPEAKER_14But you know, especially for that amount. So I'm just like, like I said, it just depends. Like, me, I couldn't see myself like talking to somebody, and we're just now getting to know each other, and then randomly I'm like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Request, request a financial.
SPEAKER_14Because I know some people who who may have, like, if I wanted to, you know, like I could. But me as a person, like, I don't, I don't need out. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, plus that, I mean, uh, it just somebody did you say something to her?
SPEAKER_03Well, that's what we want to know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_14At this point, it's like, what where did she why is she feel inclined to do that?
SPEAKER_03What entice her to do? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I don't know. Maybe it was like the way I told her.
SPEAKER_03Told yourself. You need it, I got it. What you think you said?
SPEAKER_06You know it would be spinning a little game. I think I was trying to spit a little game. You know, when when you first start talking to somebody, you need some groceries.
SPEAKER_04Your laundry, your laundry don't work. I'll take it to the laundromag.
SPEAKER_14But you know what else I just thought about too? Even what some people post, because it was a conversation I was having with some friends before, and they were like, he be posting X, Y, and Z, like little memes and get like stuff like that, like scenario stuff. Like, he be posting it, so I'm gonna see if he can actually go on, you know, open what he be posting about. Like as well. Yo, nails messed up.
SPEAKER_16I'm gonna give you private chain.
SPEAKER_14They be seeing that private chain. No, so that's what I'm saying. Like, if you if you're if you are that's how I think it went about, like, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06Certain certain people got high standards, you know what I mean? Some people like certain things, you know, certain materialistic things might see as money.
SPEAKER_14So but especially if she thinks that you like her too. So it's just like if he likes me, then of course he'll do it.
SPEAKER_03He can, oh, he of course he looks like that. He wear that, yeah.
SPEAKER_14If a girl thinks a boy likes her or a man likes her, of course. Why wouldn't I?
SPEAKER_03Why would you push the why wouldn't I?
SPEAKER_14Why wouldn't I? Test it. Test it out. Let me take her a test right now.
SPEAKER_03Hey, Tom. What's up? You like white toes, pay for them, get them done.
SPEAKER_14But that's what I'm saying. You gotta be careful. I tell other people all the time. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. Do not, I repeat, do not tell me you're gonna do something. Like, tell me you're gonna do something and not do it. Like, don't, like, people, I hate that's like a pet peeve. Even like, even with brand.
SPEAKER_06Women have a weird way of doing that though, because they be like they tell you, my nails just broke. I need to go get my nails done and instead of talking to you on the phone. You can't say that in your head. You know you need your nails done. I gotta know about it.
SPEAKER_03Or you get a relationship that always come about.
SPEAKER_14But listen, yeah. The thing is, you you have to learn how to navigate those type of situations. When you when when it's art, it's literally a conversational art.
SPEAKER_06Look, you like my hair, pay for it to get done next time. They come in bubbles.
SPEAKER_03Hey, look. Okay, all I'm saying is, right? Some some women crazy. Yeah, yeah. You better be careful. That's for it. They got they got all their whatchamacallits, all they need, all they all they services, maintenance, services.
SPEAKER_13We call it maintenance course.
SPEAKER_04Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, what you about to say, huh?
SPEAKER_04These males out here paying for that. They keep all their take home from their jobs. They stacking up because they got sins out here paying for it.
SPEAKER_14That's facts. I I I know.
SPEAKER_03She got multiple incomes.
SPEAKER_14Yes. She got someone paying for her nails, someone paying for her hair, someone paying for if she gets like med spots.
SPEAKER_03So her her own job, her take home is stacking up every week because her business is giving dead hair. Yep. Okay, now okay. So my question is for nope. Sorry. So women that says like 'cause some women play, their play is How you not gonna pay for this? Hey, look, and the next thing she's gonna ask me, pay for this BBL I'm about to get. Court. Okay. So hey, hey man, hey, I gotta one of these episodes.
SPEAKER_06I feel like some stuff gets led as a joke and then it becomes serious. Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_14You know how they say like there's a little there's a little truth behind that joke?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I I I de I definitely feel like it's that for real.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. There is. You think she you think she's joking, but she's what you said? That wasn't.
SPEAKER_06I'm not talking about my situation. Oh, you just talking about the situation.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. Because I'm thinking, like, okay. How y'all feel? How y'all feel, fellas? Like, if a woman is coming at y'all like, yo, this is what I have to offer. I mean, is that a woman you're gonna pursue? Is that a woman that you see that's I mean, that's valuable for you?
SPEAKER_13Of your standard?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. At first, yeah, but looks only go so long.
SPEAKER_06That body only gonna last so long. That's true.
SPEAKER_03So the qu the question is, okay, what is it that they offering? Yeah. No, what is it? Oh, what is it?
SPEAKER_14Oh, women, some women. No, I think his original question was like how it's like this is this is my regular. Are you like basically that like this is the thing for me? This is my standard. And either you go meet me at the standard or go above it. Like I knew what he meant when he said that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you're talking about with the maintenance? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're talking about the women that be like, I need my man to make 200k. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11200k plus.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_11You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And they well put together. No, absolutely. They well put together because it drew you. You like, dang, yeah, she's bad.
SPEAKER_07Oh, this is a high-value woman.
SPEAKER_14The thing is, I always tell people, you have to go after what you at least mentioned it before on the other podcast, too. It's like what you can afford, honestly. Like, unless that's a dynamic that y'all talked about and she doesn't mind. You know what I mean? Like, there's some people who make women who make more money.
SPEAKER_03What if it's dude, we can afford the regular, but he wanted to look like Don't play stupid games.
SPEAKER_14You can't you can't make somebody like you.
SPEAKER_03I know, I'm just saying, I I I know guys like that.
SPEAKER_06What do you mean? How do you know what you can afford? Um as in what she likes.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, you know what you afford. Yeah, you know what you can afford.
SPEAKER_06Like as in materialistic things? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's right. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_14What's what's on the outward? Like, for instance, if you know she's like, let's be let's be for real. You have a you could have your regular dagular schmegler, but he's not gonna go after a woman who's basically you could say like career driven. Uh, you see that she basically listen, she has she's doing everything for herself. You know how most guys, like I've had one before who tried to like, I could up your life, I could do this, I could do this, I could do this. I'm like, hey girl, I did this already for myself. What are we talking about? You know what I mean? Like some people like to some men value a woman like, oh, I want to up her, or I want to, you know, meet where she's at, and I can provide said X, Y, and Z. But for me, it's just like what I say, you you have to know what you can afford based off of knowing who the woman is. It's simple. Like if she's um, like we talked about it, if she's a regular traveler, if she likes to go out the country a lot, if she likes to explore, if she likes fashion, if she likes the arts, if she likes um uh very self-care stuff, people that stuff is not cheap. Oh, yeah, facts.
SPEAKER_03And especially that's why she said mainload everyone. You said she's going out of the country and stuff, but what if another dude paying for that?
SPEAKER_06I ain't gonna lie, women got it made easy. If you keep it. Women can manipulate this. Oh my if nope, pause. Pause my stuff for that. But if I was a woman. What would you do? What would you do? What would you do if you were?
SPEAKER_11Baby's gonna be tricking.
SPEAKER_06Pause myself again. I'll be selling feet pics and stuff, man. I'll be doing all types of stuff, man. That's that's your that's your job. Man, they can do whatever they want. Back when we said a couple episodes goes, man, it's it's really dudes out here just so you get caught into that.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's the feet, everybody don't defeat, now they want to see more. Nah, it's always a market for feet.
SPEAKER_06It's a market for feet.
SPEAKER_03You should, bro. When I when I tell you, it's a market for feet. I'm not saying that I'm in that market, but let's put it out of that market. But put it like this. I was on I was on Instagram, right? And just randomly. And just randomly. That's right. This person put pictures out there. It was like they had like a quiet, like a choir picture. They had like selfie, them doing something, da da da. And they just randomly put their feet in it. You know how you could comment on Instagram stories now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04When I tell you those stories, bro, they was going crazy for the feet.
SPEAKER_03I said, What the what is I've never been to somebody's feet? I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't want no custody. Yeah, yeah, but she's like, I ain't never known.
SPEAKER_14I never knew until a few years ago, like how it was a big of a thing. Like a men have a true fetish for me.
SPEAKER_06It's crazy. Telling you, women got it made. Women uh What you said? They don't have to work as hard. Nope. No, at all. Women, I ain't gonna lie. Y'all got a lot to do. Um, I'm not gonna just say it like y'all life is easy. I'm not gonna say it like y'all like easy.
SPEAKER_14If you are put together nicely, it comes a little bit.
SPEAKER_03If you do y'all, do y'all take offense to that? That we that's uh that's how we see it. Y'all don't have to work as hard as we have.
SPEAKER_14I don't take offense to it. Okay. Because just of societal norms. Yeah. Like it'd be different if, you know, the roles were reversed and like we were the I don't want to call us predators, but for instance, like, you know, we are the ones pursuing at the same time. Like to me, it's like, you know how they say, like, you're just like the the cheese in the trap, basically the mouse is coming to you in the way. So it's just like you're you all you do is just sit there. It'll come. You just gotta sit there and be pretty. They it'll come. It's like the fish of the net, like how you had dangling that bait. Like, there it is. Yeah, he's oh, they're coming all right. Like you just gotta just relax, just chill, they'll come. So that's the thing. Like that's a crazy analogy. But you get it, I painted it for you.
SPEAKER_03How do you feel about women being the aggressor though in the chase?
SPEAKER_14I mean, I know some, and I and I applaud them. Couldn't be me. Like, I don't see it because I mean that's just not how I'm put together in that capacity. But I mean I've known men who who absolutely loved it. They said it turns them on when uh a person is a woman is pursuing them because it's like, let's keep my job a little easier.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it's a different thing.
SPEAKER_14They said make me want to love it because it's a good thing. And then also, too, who was it? Someone told me before they said, I've used like a competition now, like she outdoing me. Like he said, he said, but I like it though. It's like a friendly flirt. So mainly like it.
SPEAKER_06I feel like it's just matching energy. You feel me? It is. Uh that's how Yeah, the man is supposed to chase the woman. Yes. That's how we're supposed to go. Yes, that's how that's how it's that's how it's supposed to go. But dang, I gotta chase you a mile, three miles.
SPEAKER_14It's a two-way street. Simple. But also, too, many, if you're going, that means them there might not be true interest there, though, if they're just letting you linger. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06That's what I'm saying. So when it's the yeah, when you see that, it's called the attention driver.
SPEAKER_14Well, what we say, read read the room. You gotta read that room.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna I'm not gonna specify and say women, but even males, they love attention. Love attention. Oh, for sure. No interest, they like the attention that they're getting because it makes them feel like they're important.
SPEAKER_14Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So they're gonna keep it. It's just like when people post pictures, it's the most important thing.
SPEAKER_14They said, You do what you was doing. Like, I I always get all the time when I post a picture or something like that, and I get a random comment. You knew what you was doing when you posted this. I'm like, I just smile, I just started laughing. I'm like, because I know what they meant.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because y'all throw out women throw out just a little, you have a little analogy. You just said the little thirst trap.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, the little thirst trap.
SPEAKER_07The little mouse trap with the cheese and the mouse, the mouse trap trying to go out the cheese and get caught in the trap.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that that little thirst trap you're gonna do. The little thirst trap you put on there, you just slid up on it. Hey, got the bait, and then got him. And then you let them even look at it and then he's looking for the bait, so you let him know.
SPEAKER_14A funny story, though. It was so funny. Like, me and my friends did it, it was a couple years ago. We were talking about something. I was like, because it's like we like we knew we could call it to like a T I cut. I'm like, I know who's gonna comment on the story, yeah. Who how many, who, and what they gonna say.
unknownDang.
SPEAKER_14I put it to the dollar. I was like, I'll put money on it, and it happened, and I was like, pay up. I told him who it was gonna be. Uh I said, I can post anything, and it was certain individual. It's it's like it's a given, like, because I can say predictable, but it's predictable.
SPEAKER_03Like this is covered up. So disappointing, but how can we win it?
SPEAKER_04How can we win? This is a conclusion.
SPEAKER_06Look how they bait you. Look, this is how they do it. They bait you like that, they looking bad. So they do it.
SPEAKER_08They're looking bad.
SPEAKER_06So they they got you. You looking at this on your phone. It's not because you know you're gonna look at it. Sometimes it happens. You let it nine, you by yourself. Then they let you know all these standards to you.
SPEAKER_03They get to the point where it's like, you predictable, my dog.
SPEAKER_14Yeah, you're predictable. You gotta switch it up.
SPEAKER_15Are men easy? Easier than women, for sure.
SPEAKER_16It's not a good thing. Oh my god, I can't make it.
SPEAKER_07Oh my god.
SPEAKER_16That's terrible, man.
SPEAKER_03The women always got that little advantage of all the people.
SPEAKER_14It's typically say who it is.
SPEAKER_03I'm not saying not specific people, but the type of people. Okay.
SPEAKER_14So usually it's men who have a lot of value to offer. Facts.
SPEAKER_06Like cool. I'm sorry. As in value, what do you say? Money.
SPEAKER_14You can say money, status of some compet of some degree, or even career. Occupation. Career. Yes. Okay. Because at that point, they gotta be wise who they're bringing into their life or their lifestyle. Like, if you like, for instance, like once you read a certain status, sometimes, like, even it believe it or not, NDAs are involved. Like, hey, I'm gonna need what goes on here stays here, sign this paper. I've been in um surrounding uh circles where that's happened before.
SPEAKER_06And hold on. Let me start getting NDAs involved for real. Okay.
SPEAKER_14I signed up. Don't look at me. I mean, unless you're work while I signed up.
SPEAKER_03So say say you say you get Mr. Wright.
SPEAKER_14Okay.
SPEAKER_03And he comes to you, y'all, y'all want to go to the next level. He's like, hey, you need to sign his prenug, though.
SPEAKER_13You're talking about marriage? Yeah. Tony, I can't answer that right now. I'm I'm just okay.
SPEAKER_03As in science, he's a high value man.
SPEAKER_14You would I sign it?
SPEAKER_03Would you sign it?
SPEAKER_14I'm gonna say today I would.
SPEAKER_03But come that moment, would you be offended? I can't answer that question.
SPEAKER_14Would you be offended? No.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Some people get offended by it.
SPEAKER_14I mean, I get it because the notion is this is forever. We don't, this is not gonna even be a thing. Like, I get that. But at the same time, me as a person, I plan on having my own too. So it's just like I want to protect my assets as well.
SPEAKER_03Switch the feet. Switch the Yeah. For sure, for sure, for sure. If you would you ask God, look, all I'm gonna say, look at Kobe.
SPEAKER_02This dude.
SPEAKER_01Rest in space.
SPEAKER_02Okay, what's it? Kobe's about to lose 150 L's. Kobe about it. Corey. He wasn't with me shooting in the gym.
SPEAKER_03Corey. Jesus, man. Lord, man. Let the man rest in peace, man. We already gotta live without him for the rest of our lives, man. Hey, man. He wasn't with me shooting in the peace. Corey.
SPEAKER_14It's a sensitive topic now because he is no longer with us. And now his wife. His wife, who's still his wife, who has his children, Corey. Anyway, back to what you were saying.
SPEAKER_16No. My bad.
SPEAKER_14Don't don't even explore that. This is not a DMZ where we're just putting any story out.
SPEAKER_03I'm bl you know who I'm blaming on this.
SPEAKER_14Okay, anyway, back to Mr.
SPEAKER_03Caitlin Jenner. What is wrong with him, bro?
SPEAKER_11Like back to what you were saying, though.
SPEAKER_14Look, back to back to the original topic at hand. Yes, at this moment I would.
SPEAKER_15Yeah.
SPEAKER_14But again, that's the convert conversation between like if you presented it, like, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. But what does that look like? Because everything in prenup, you know, depend on what y'all draw it up as.
SPEAKER_03Like, you know, would you would you ask him to sign a prenup?
SPEAKER_14Jesus. I mean, I in my mind, I would say no. But I guess honestly though, they tell you though, and your like your lawyers and people, your counsel will tell you, like, business wise, it's smart for you to do X, Y, and Z, like to protect your business, you need to do this. Like, regardless of if like you started this before him, X, Y, and Z, like, do what you gotta do. Like, so yes, that makes sense to protect your assets if he had nothing to do with that. It gets sticky when y'all dating and you produce and stuff, like y'all starting building companies and doing stuff together. Now that's the sticky portion.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, 50%. I got a question. Talk to us. How do men become not easy?
SPEAKER_03Later, man.
SPEAKER_06Are you are you saying that you're easy?
SPEAKER_16Later, like, dang!
SPEAKER_07Y'all saying all men easy.
SPEAKER_16Just saying we're easier than women. We're easier than women.
SPEAKER_02Not all men. Not all men, no. I know some men that are strict. We're easier. We will fall before.
SPEAKER_14But put it like this. I would say men who are not, who are uh easy.
SPEAKER_03Proposition. Okay, what's that? You don't you don't know this, right? Right? Yeah. But looking around the room, let's say Antoine, Jermaine as your cousin, and me as your brother. Could you go around and say what is what? Are we easy or not?
SPEAKER_10Yes.
SPEAKER_03Could you do that?
SPEAKER_10Yes.
SPEAKER_03Alright, Antoine.
SPEAKER_01I know okay.
SPEAKER_10I know my flaw. It's up to an is easy, man. I know my flaw.
SPEAKER_03I know my flaw.
SPEAKER_10Twan is easy. Look at him.
SPEAKER_07Don't do me like that shit. Don't do me like that.
SPEAKER_16I like what I like, man.
SPEAKER_07Don't do me like that shit.
SPEAKER_14May know. To a certain regard, Mayno is strict easy, but he's like a he's like a 7525.
SPEAKER_07Oh. Corey, you bugged me, bruh.
SPEAKER_00Okay, Corey. Corey, Corey is.
SPEAKER_14Do you want me to say this or not? Corey is low-key strict. But the reason why I'm saying this, Corey's, Ari is the first person Corey has ever brought around or mentioned to our family. Period. And I know many people Corey has communicated with that. And has never mentioned to anybody. Like they're like, Corey be like, but Corey got a girlfriend, Corey my girlfriend. And this is years ago. And I'm like, I would never know. Because Corey is strict in a way. So when he did bring Ari around, we were like, Wow. Like she made it past uh?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04She passed like five checks of TSA, bro.
SPEAKER_14Strictly.
SPEAKER_03We know. We know you put this women do this.
SPEAKER_00Manie, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_16We like what we like, man.
SPEAKER_06We hey we in that category, man.
SPEAKER_03I'm in the I'm in the category. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_14But when I say easy, maybe I'm not, it's not a disrespectful.
SPEAKER_04Not that you pay $2,000.
SPEAKER_14No, easy is when, like, if something is dangled in front of your face, you make them really do the work to see if they like it. Like you're like, hey, I like it. She looks good. Let me go after it. And then next thing you know, now you're gonna suffer from the repercussions. Why you are guilty. Maybe you are guilty.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_14I know this. Guilty. I know. Like I have facts.
SPEAKER_03That's what I said. We got stories. Yes.
SPEAKER_14But I will not, and on this mic, I will not bring them up. But y'all know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_03I don't think he was jumping.
SPEAKER_14Exactly. So there are people.
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_14So yes, easy. When we say easy, meaning like you don't, you're you're more so, I'm not gonna say look driven, but it's just more so like you're not as this is not no shade. It's not as intentional as it can be to go past, as Corey say, TSA, the check markers. Like it's it's it's levels too.
SPEAKER_03Ain't no pre-check right here. You gotta get tested. Corey gonna he gonna take him through the ringer.
SPEAKER_14So that's what I mean. It's no shame, Amy. You're still young.
SPEAKER_03I gotta tighten my program up.
SPEAKER_14You do.
SPEAKER_03No, I do. I told him this though. You have to be intentional. I had to do some uh I had to do some yeah, reevaluating.
SPEAKER_14So but no, that's the thing. So I always tell, I tell all men when they're in pursuit of a woman to be as intentional as possible. Have an expectation before even like and it's okay to be single. Some men can't be by themselves, unfortunately. Like you hop from one to the next to the next to the next. Every time I talk to you, I should not be hearing about, yeah, so I met this new girl or I said this new girl DNS. I'm I'm like, at this point, you're desperate. What are we doing?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you don't want to be in that category.
SPEAKER_14So it's just like you want to for me, this is just me speaking. It's okay to if you just want to date around and that's what you want in your span of life right now, that's you. But for me three at a time. Corey, what did you say?
SPEAKER_03Three at a time. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_14So for me, it's just like if you if you are intentionally wanting to date, I always tell people, write, look, I'm a writer, so write down what you like, your do's, your don'ts, and then you have a mental checklist and a read the room, as we always say. Learn how to read that room, you know, and then um if you want to get to know somebody, take it slow, like don't go so fast. Because sometimes you get too too much dip on your chip and you end up in predicaments that you're not trying to be in. Hence people send in cash, I mean sending requests, many.
SPEAKER_02Why the few story it was your story today, man? It was your story, many.
SPEAKER_14But it's just more so like if you're going too fast at a fast pace, a fast speed, it's gonna start and you're like, oh shoot, I didn't get to know you for real. I don't even know you. How do you how do we get ourselves in this situation? So it's just like be more intentional, figure out what you want, and take it slow, like get to know that person first. And it's it's not just all on the men, it's on the women too. Like, don't try to force something so you can get some something out of it quickly. Because I it people are guilty of that too. It's just like, let me milk this cow as much as I can so I can move to the next and keep going, keep going, keep going until and that's just how it is. But at the end of the day, it's just intentionality. Figure out what you want to be uh to become what you even and I always say it for myself too, it's just like what I want to desire, I need to become that. So it's therefore like do that for yourself too. It's just like you need to become what you are trying to attract. So if you want a high value woman, be a more of a high value man. If you want to attract uh What is a high value man? A high value man for me is someone who is has like pillars of faith, um, family, uh, financial literacy, and um just self-wellness in general. And self-wellness means like mental mental mental wellness as well.
SPEAKER_06500k a year.
SPEAKER_14Ain't nobody saying nothing. You could be crazy, you can be crazy, man. You could be crazy. Hell can be with attached to that body. No, don't please. So a high value man to me is a man who is secure in their manhood, a person who is um not and don't have like no true insecurities about themselves, like they're comfortable with themselves and they value their faith, their uh, so their spirituality, their mental health, uh, their physical uh health. That's what I value as a high value man. It's not always pertaining to finances. Because if you are, you know, some crazy rich people. If you're well in those areas, then you are already a high valued person because somebody can have all the money in the world, but be mentally crazy. Why would you? You are no value to me at that point. You are bringing more hell to my life than anything. Right. So it's just like if you if you find those yourself high in those categories, you are considered a high value man, in my opinion. And in the world as well. So for you, I would say, like, basically for men, become what you want, become what you want to attract. So it's just like if you want a high value woman, become a high value man. And how can you do that again?
SPEAKER_03It don't happen overnight.
SPEAKER_14It don't, you gotta put the work.
SPEAKER_03You gotta put the work in.
SPEAKER_14So that's why I said don't try to chase after people so soon. Get to know yourself, figure out your triggers, figure out your trauma, get that together before you even enter, like pursue or even introduce yourself to somebody because the last thing a woman wants to deal with is a person who's trying to still figure it out, and they low key may already have it figured out and just want you to, you know, y'all want to do life together and build. You shouldn't have to wait on you to get yourself together. And then, like, okay, bet, let's go. It should never get to that. So that's why I said, take your time. Like, if you're not okay to be dating, sit your butt down somewhere and get yourself together to where you can be put in a position because that's just gonna be more stress on yourself. Because now you gotta keep up with her and yourself. And that's not healthy. Fellows.
SPEAKER_03Hey, what Kevin Hurst say, everybody wanna be famous, but nobody wanna put the work in. Nobody wanna put the work in. Yeah. Hey, facts. That's good advice. Yeah, that's good advice. That's why, that's why we have you on. For sure.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I mean, yeah, so long story short, don't be easy like Twan, but uh wow, that's insane.
SPEAKER_03Hey, don't nobody come ask me for no money. No, no, man. No, no.
SPEAKER_12Look, look, Tuan might be willingly listen to it. Don't let him, don't let him be checking.
SPEAKER_03Nah, I don't do that. I don't spend money. You gotta be wifey. You gotta be wifey for me to spend money.
SPEAKER_09Check his phone.
SPEAKER_03Check it. Check it. Pull it out. You gotta be wifey.
SPEAKER_09Where the phone?
SPEAKER_03Hey, we're gonna get off. Let's get off camera first so we can do that.
SPEAKER_10You gotta pull the receipts. I don't believe Twine.
SPEAKER_06No, but I don't believe Twine either. Ain't no way you keep getting scammed.
SPEAKER_03It's all flipped down to the back. What's that?
SPEAKER_14It probably was one of his secrets.
SPEAKER_09There's no reward. No. You gotta hold that card number.
SPEAKER_03Man, y'all see what we gotta deal with? You be giving out your card number? No, she took that number. I'll tell you, nobody, nobody has access to none of that.
SPEAKER_10So we so we thought. Alright, whatever. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, man. So hey, y'all see what we we can do this forever. We do this all the time. So anyways, man. Let's hey. You're gonna be back. You're gonna be back.
SPEAKER_14Bring me back.
SPEAKER_03We definitely bring you back. I got some more topics. Bring one of your little ratchet friends. Corey, I got no ratchet. We gotta have some friends.
SPEAKER_14I have no ratchet friends.
SPEAKER_03Your bougie friends. The bougie.
SPEAKER_14Well-rounded women. Amen.
SPEAKER_03AKA bougie.
SPEAKER_14Okay.
SPEAKER_16This guy. Hey, you know they be watching this.
SPEAKER_14Shout out to the friends. Shout out to the supporters. The subscribers. Bring them around. I want to see them.
SPEAKER_07Bring them around.
SPEAKER_02You falling into the phone.
SPEAKER_07Look at that.
SPEAKER_10Oh my god. That's why I don't know. Anyways, man.
SPEAKER_03You must get more requests, man. Nah, man. Anyways, man. Baby, what you what you willing to do at will this week, man? What you willing to do?
SPEAKER_06Uh I had a good week this week, man. I just want to continue to stay uh stay blessed, man. I'm all right, man. I'm good, man.
SPEAKER_03I'm good. You are blessed. I'm about to apple cash you too. So you feel like you want to get some of those pause. Pause? What you mean? Pause.
SPEAKER_15Did you hear that, girl? Pause. He's about to apple cash me. He's about to send me some money. What you say we're gonna do? He's about to let Jiman get his nose out of your money.
SPEAKER_05You said I'm an Apple Cat.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say Apple Request. My bad. That boy Twine. Let me make some money.
SPEAKER_12You get your nails done. Didn't you say you get your nails done? I can tell you get your nails done. I can see you.
SPEAKER_06I get my nails cleaned.
SPEAKER_12Done.
SPEAKER_06Cleaned.
unknownDone.
SPEAKER_03Cleaned. What do you really do? That boy Twan said he's gonna pay for it. Pause, man. Okay, let's relax. I never joke like that, man.
SPEAKER_11You just he stumbled over his word. Yeah, baby. I'm gonna say embrace. Let's embrace.
SPEAKER_07Great. Come on, bro. This ain't funny, bro.
SPEAKER_16What you want? I'm about to say something. I don't want to get us. Yeah, I don't want to get us in trouble, man.
SPEAKER_14Let's move on.
SPEAKER_03We go something. Alright. What you willing to do at will this week?
SPEAKER_14Uh, at will this week is to be more productive. I started working back out, so hopefully I'm gonna try to go. Don't do that.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. I keep looking at it. The way you said all was a little bit. No, I'm saying I'm doing the same thing, but I'm just in support.
SPEAKER_14Yeah. Beautiful. So yeah, hopefully um I'm gonna try to be more active in the gym this week and productive, and then of course, uh finalize a lot of these um tech packs and samples for my spring line. So I'm excited about that.
SPEAKER_03Hey. Oh my lord.
SPEAKER_14Yeah, shout out to the beanies. They sat aligned. We love it. Yeah. So yeah, that's basically it for next week. It's gonna be super chill, uh, but busy at the same time. Yeah. Now, what about yourself?
SPEAKER_03Nah, Corey. Nah, we're gonna get a core. What you willing to do at well this week? Man, I'm gonna shoot. But you gotta get more content than that, man. Come on.
SPEAKER_14Like video court. I'm like, shoot. I think you're like a meranged.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man. They can use this to the court, man. If something happens.
SPEAKER_09I'm gonna shoot. Oh, wow. Click the clip play.
SPEAKER_03You know my heart.
SPEAKER_09You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03You're not making it easier, man. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot videos. Shoot videos intentionally. Yeah. Hey, man. Hey, congrats to you too, man.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, he's official. Entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_03Entrepreneur. I mean, it's been official. Official, man. Yeah, yeah, man. Come on, man.
SPEAKER_15Come on, man.
SPEAKER_13Oh, man. Congratulations.
SPEAKER_03Deuce Media is official. Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna create I'm gonna try to create. Yeah. That's good. What's this up, man? Me? I ain't doing no, no, for real. I'ma uh I'm gonna work on more on more content stuff. I wanna I wanna I find out how to get more passion for like interviews. You know what I'm saying? I like talking.
SPEAKER_10I like uh that's good, because you usually I like to talk.
SPEAKER_03For real. No, you you seriously for real. I mean, cause I'm like there's passion for it, so I just want to dive into more of a journalistic background.
SPEAKER_14Come on, journalism.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I wanna I wanna see what I can do then. I'm gonna I'll take you know, speaking classes, I'll do more writing exercises. So I'm diving into it for real, full-fledged, and I want to get into more content creating. I really wanna I see what we are building, I see we can actually build something, especially in our own lanes as well. Like you know, we can do this forever, and we can do something that we love to do for the rest of our life. I'm really trying to we thank God for the nine to five. We really do, but I really don't see that being my favorite. You know what I mean? So or none of us as well, right here. So yeah, so I'm gonna I'm I'm going I gotta watch my language running on it because I ain't getting paused no more. Uh I'm gonna be going all the way. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Right, right.
SPEAKER_14Oh wow, that was I haven't heard that in years.
SPEAKER_03Go ahead, Tommy. No, no, I'm going full fledged on things I want to do for the rest of my life. That's good. I'm taking my career and everything, my aspirations, everything. You know, seriously.
SPEAKER_12So what's the practical steps?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna continue being uh I I wanna enhance my look. You know what I'm saying? Come on. So basically work out, you know, eat right. Oh yeah, that shirt's definitely coming off July, man. I might I might I'm gonna be a model in one of your uh catalogs. Not with the shut off, not with shut off, bro.
SPEAKER_02I just did you see I'm saying, man.
SPEAKER_03I'm working, no man. I was jealous of y'all when uh when we posted, I was like, oh yeah, they look good. I'm talking about all the models for her, you know. Meeting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. May not. I know. May not hey Maino, you you you you you I'm I I'm not me saying this. I'm getting hit up about this. I'm getting hit up about they be like, hey, he he's handsome, Tom. They're like, oh, who is he? So yeah, you you get the looks, man. You get the looks. I I had to answer to him who you are. So yeah, yeah. I like that for you, man. Sue, you you young, you hey.
SPEAKER_14Okay, don't eat. I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_03All right, come on. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna get more requests. No, but yeah. But that's what I'm gonna do at will. So that's that's what we're gonna do at will, as y'all see. We're building this is us, this is the core four right here. It's gonna get denied. Anyways. Whatever you do, do your purpose at will. You know what I'm saying? We create, we speak, we live at will. All right, we out of here, y'all.
SPEAKER_11See y'all.
SPEAKER_03Let's get out of here before they pause us again.
SPEAKER_11Pause you again.
SPEAKER_03Pause me. Pause. Whoa, what was that?
SPEAKER_07What was that tone, sir? What was that?